Fun list of obscure games. Thanks for another top 10 list. Always love these when it is the three of you. The banter always makes the time fly by. I appreciate the different opinions and perspectives.
@2teachers2kids386 жыл бұрын
I don't really find a list of obscure games FUN.
@debbiedowns68796 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your number two Sam! I haven't laughed that much in a long time, mainly because of Zee and Tom's reactions!
@Buffalodude16 жыл бұрын
I didn't know about Age of War until Sam actually talked about it a while ago. Got it for Christmas, and its a favorite of ours for a fun and quick dice game
@Patronux6 жыл бұрын
The jokes here were so bad. I loved every minute of them. The gangsta caats omg
@meechibell96026 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys! I just found a couple of birthday gifts for my husband with this list... Artifacts, Inc. & Pecunia Non Olet (not sure I can stomach this game but know he'd have fun with his friend), so thank you Sam! It's so much fun watching you guys! :)
@guillermoz49146 жыл бұрын
Not my favorite category but I'm always excited to hear you guys talk about your top 10 anything 👌🏽
@michaelrogerson69394 жыл бұрын
I played a game with some neighbors called "Real People" by Milton Bradley from 1991. The concept is that a bunch of real people sent in headshots of themselves and answers to a few questions, and based on those answers, you guess which person it is. It's literally a game about judging people by their appearances, so not something that would fly now, but it's also probably the most obscure game I've played.
@thediceodyssey46906 жыл бұрын
Hey LICE SHOWER was a real game I played 2 or 3 times when I was a kid. It's a solo game and it will kick your butt!
@TorIverWilhelmsen6 жыл бұрын
Ragnar Brothers are still active, most recently they ran a kickstarter for a game that takes the core "multiple reality" element from their Niña & Pinta game and applied it to a game where the Scottish attempt to set up a colony in Panama was doomed because of the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
@icurnvss6 жыл бұрын
It was awesome to get to do a preview of V-Commandos when the Kickstarter was on. Very well done game. Love the stealth mechanics, and a different take on the theme. Definitely a criminally unknown game. The ones that do know of it, got their hands on it absolutely love it! Good job on including it in this list Sam!
@ninohernandez6 жыл бұрын
Lice Shower was a lie!?!
@BalanceFreedomPiano6 жыл бұрын
Niño Hernandez I choose to believe.
@DerdromNilrem6 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for that game for 4 years.
@nathannemeth40946 жыл бұрын
Niño Hernandez lol!
@smoothcriminal286 жыл бұрын
Heartland comes to mind. One of my favorite tile laying games out there, and super hard to get. It's definitely one of my best purchases ever.
@jameskrolak6 жыл бұрын
My favorite obscure game is Shattered States. It's obviously self-published in 1990, so the components are horrible quality, but it's a surprisingly good game. It's a fictional 2nd American Civil War. Each player picks a few territories on the board to start with for his faction. Each territory provides a special ability to your faction from rolling 2 dice for each unit on defense to placing riot markers in other players territories to firing off nukes. You wage war against each other to try to gain a certain number of key territories and be declared the successor to the USA. It's got generic army units on the board and you can buy special cards from other nearby nations. Combat is simple dice driven stuff. The replayability comes from trying to mix together the special abilities of different territories. When I brought it to a local game store to play some years ago and played it, the manager tracked down the creator the very next day and ordered 5 copies of it.
@Grouik6 жыл бұрын
My favorite obscure (or so I think) games are : Off the dead, a small coop card game with a small memory part, really fun. Goblins vs Zombies, another small card game up to 3 players where you defend your goblin village: coop or comp, easy to play. Infark where you play "friends" trying to be the last one to survive cancer, depression, blood pressure by inviting your friends to party where they get drunk, smoke, eat very unhealthy..., Argonauts where you relive Jason's adventures, very original, love it ! Attrape Fantôme , a lovely coop electronic kids game from Ravensburger where you play rabbits and mice trying to capture a Ghost. :)
@PurpleMoose236 жыл бұрын
Was super psyched to see Throne and the Grail on Zee's list, was one of the first I thought of. The publisher Taikikennai Games is an great company from Japan. I definitely recommend checking out more of their games, my favorite might be Namidano Festival, but I also really enjoy The Bremens and Oklahoma Sixer.
@rickthompson38436 жыл бұрын
Great list guys. I know you catch a lot of flak for putting the same games on a lot of lists, so its really a pleasure hearing you talk about some different ones. I think Age of War leans more to obscure than well known. Friend I game with picked it up because he heard Sam talking about it on a list and the only other person I met that knew it also learned about it from Sam. If its not obscure, you can thank the Healey Effect!
@sad0happy6 жыл бұрын
How 'bout a revisit to other Top 10 like Top 10 Eurogames/worker placement/Area Control etc.
@Patronux6 жыл бұрын
sad0happy YES!!!
@jean-paularends45356 жыл бұрын
Yes! A new Workerplacement-list!!! Please make that happen! :)
@orangestic6 жыл бұрын
Yeeessss!!
@icurnvss6 жыл бұрын
Age of War is a cool little game. I got to play it at a Gamesday. Never heard of it before then, and never heard of it since, lol. Great addition to the list Sam!
@ArnieHorta6 жыл бұрын
V-Commandos is a Canadian game, not European.
@brentpollock76386 жыл бұрын
Triton Noir is an independent studio creating and publishing board games. Founded in 2014 by Thibaud de la Touanne, we are located in Montréal.
@JamieMaltmanTube6 жыл бұрын
I was going to say - I saw you guys at BreakoutCon in Toronto last year, and was pretty sure you were Canadian and the game could be found in Quebec at least. :)
@benediktcz6 жыл бұрын
is it based on the computer game commandos?
@erictighe16834 жыл бұрын
V-Commandos is great, have it from the Kickstarter.
@avisian80635 жыл бұрын
When I am having a bad day I rewatch this video to hear Tom day "GANGSTA".
@RedEyedGhost16 жыл бұрын
"I'm not saying I'm the voice on what obscure means." "No, you are." ROFL
@mitchalibi27946 жыл бұрын
Funniest 2018 video, so far!...Thank you, Zee, Tom & Sam!!! You made my weekend...
@KabukiKid6 жыл бұрын
I agree with Sam that Age of War doesn't seem to be well-known at all. Definitely fits the category.
@richardxob6 жыл бұрын
one of this days Zee is going to be punched by Sam
@PsychicLord5 жыл бұрын
Great show..... immediately ordered a copy of Pecunia Non Olet, so thank you Sam for highlighting, and not dumping it!
@GeneralNickles6 жыл бұрын
There's a game that was fairly common back in the late 90s that I feel like most people haven't heard of these days. It's called vampire Hunter. It's cool because you have to play it in the dark. It's got this lighthouse in the middle of the board that lights up 2 different colors to simulate day and night. And the board changes depending on whether it's currently day or night. It's mostly luck based, so there isn't really a ton of skill involved, but I always thought it was pretty fun. Me and my cousins loved it when we were kids.
@Vampa2196 жыл бұрын
Sam's number "2" made this list...laughed so freaking hard
@charleslatora57504 жыл бұрын
I have to go: 1. Find this 'poop' game and 2. I have to....
@Castorshells5 жыл бұрын
Any of y'all ever play Frozen Cortex? I think it's only on Steam. I wonder and would love to see that translated to a board game. Frozen Cortex is futuristic football type game.
@Vandueren56 жыл бұрын
"They hold their Fish like this" LOL!
@xxbriguyxx6 жыл бұрын
I remember where I was the first time the ‘top 10 most obscure games’ list was released four years ago. I was eating the best burger I’ve ever had. Made from the best cuts of yak meat and topped with grilled onions and sharp cheddar, it was to die for.
@douglasdea6375 жыл бұрын
There's a bunch of older games that are now long out of print which are obscure. Saga, from TSR, was a quick and fun game. Fury of the Norsemen, from Metagaming I think. Barbarian Prince was a solo explore-the-land game which was worth a few play throughs. Ace of Aces was the original flip-book game with dueling pictures. I loved Stellar Conquest back in the day, originally from Metagaming then purchased and published by Avalon Hill. SeeKrieg was a ship miniatures game which was fun but had a rotten rulebook.
@valerielinares20685 жыл бұрын
That Harvest Island game sounds like fun! Where can I find it?!?! Or, what is a game that is very similar to it in the sense of farming, seasons, buying and selling?
@TheMastermindX116 жыл бұрын
"Pecunia non olet" is che latin for "Money don't smell" which is what roman emperor Vespasianus said to his son that complained about his idea to get funding for the Colliseum - which was taxing the usage of public toilets.
@beardedchinnfishing6 жыл бұрын
I love watching your guys top 10 videos and your reviews!
@jackdraper5916 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a game called "The Swarm" created by Wolfgang Kramer and Michael Kiesling. The dice tower doesn't have a review for this game which is surprising considering the creators. Would this be an obscure game?
@aaronnatera36856 жыл бұрын
Letnisko. Building summer resorts in Poland in the 30's. Amazing implementation of multi use cards.
@smoothcriminal286 жыл бұрын
Aaron Natera i own it. Adore It. One of the most obscure games out there for sure.
@andreat.75146 жыл бұрын
I have to find this Dice Age game. Zee's review of it was really good.
@rolandbruno6866 жыл бұрын
Interesting topic. Here are my top 5 Obscure Games. 5: Mijnlieff 4: Abracada...what? 3: Pyramid Poker 2: In Flanders Field 1: Super Fantasy Ugly Snouts Assault
@rolandbruno6866 жыл бұрын
It is a light dungeon crawler with a unique dice mechanic. Pick it up on the cheap.
@Ulaan-ti9nm6 жыл бұрын
My favorite obscure game by far is a game from Z-man games called Grimoire, a game where each player each turn chooses a spell to cast using a cool bookmark. I love that game!
@davidvandrunen35166 жыл бұрын
Cool lists!
@lukasklees30816 жыл бұрын
Whats with the rubberband? Its right next to the mic. So it sounds like static the entire video
@pepagacy6 жыл бұрын
I'll go with two games by Tom Lehmann by TimJim Games/Prism Games. First is 2038: Tycoons of the Asteroid Belt. This is an 18xx adaptation in which players invest in companies, explore the asteroid belt, and then run routes between bases collecting the most valuable ore. Lighter than most 18xx games due to no rails, but there is a depth of strategy due to should you run your company to victory, or should you run it into the ground to star the new outfit. Then there is Fast Food Franchise, which was described as Monopoly done right. Players start different fast food companies on the board, and then attract the other players to their delicious demise. You can also block other players in the middle of the board with strategic placement of different outlets chits, thus giving another layer to your strategy. The only downsides of this game are that the game is roll and move, and that the quality of components is very early 90s.
@Tymbaroth6 жыл бұрын
A Discworld Board Game I didn't hear about ?? Going to check that out ! :D
@MrGreeneyes776 жыл бұрын
What is that "elos" game Z talks about that is similar to Hellas?
@michaelrodriguez31296 жыл бұрын
Would have like to see Zee put Longshot on the list. He mentioned it at Pax Unplugged and it's rumored to be in the process of being reprinted.
@Ruffio586 жыл бұрын
I have 3 on the lists. Habitats 1st ed, Rescue Polar Bears, and Far East War 1592. A great obscure game I like is Fireworks by Facio. It's a lucky tile laying game. I love the theme, the artwork is cute and its fun to interact with others when you throw down the dice.
@charlesrowan19786 жыл бұрын
Actually played Far East War 1592 at DexCon 2 years ago. Not bad for a light war game.
@dfetz36 жыл бұрын
Tom trying to explain the difference on #7 was hilarious.
@elgatoman46666 жыл бұрын
I had tears in my eyes :')
@BlimpMcGee6 жыл бұрын
I will never be able to look at Sam with a straight face everytime it's time for his number 2
@mnkymn6 жыл бұрын
Shacru/Azacru/Pacru is a great choice (and that's the correct order btw, from simplest to most complex). If you like colourful abstracts then Continuo and Entropy (aka Hyle or Hyle 7) are both great as well. I'd also throw SuperFut and VEGE tables in on my list.
@billcook47686 жыл бұрын
Eruption has s nice implementation on board game arena if anyone wants to check it out. Fun game marred (IMO) but a ridiculous catchup mechanism
@jemwilli6 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping to see Heartland as it is amazing and obscure.
@thetasigma19056 жыл бұрын
I was eating a burger while watching this top ten.
@ignacioiglesis55936 жыл бұрын
I'm from Chile and Zee is right... Yeah Gangsta!
@Ultr4l0f6 жыл бұрын
Checking the collection. One realy good game I've never seen outside my own collection is Barony, by Marc André. Maybe not superobscure, but never seen it except for when I bought it. Pretty clean rules, good production value (except for a mistake on the back of the box). Send dudes on map and build towns. There is no real combat, except for if two of your things (villages and/or knights) are on the same spot as a single enemy knight/city it dies. So no randomness. 4/5,wish I could play it more often
@hethdavid6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Magical Athlete plays anything like Squig Hopper Races.
@mybandishighvoltage6 жыл бұрын
I can't say whether or not Age of War is obscure, but I will say it's one of my family's favorite games. It is also one of my go to games for introducing non-gamers to modern board games.
@TheEdgeOfThought6 жыл бұрын
If ever I walk away from the board game hobby, watching your videos will be one of the greater things I'll miss. Not planning such a life change, but it's been considered. It's been nice meeting you all at GenCon a couple times, and got some of your promo/exclusive stuff (onitama cards, woo!).
@IzyPeazy6 жыл бұрын
Maybe do a top 10 games that influenced you on your way into the hobby? (games that played a major role in pulling you in or games that were eye openers)
@jayneeschultz94676 жыл бұрын
Do you have a search engine for finding every game which you have reviewed "
@maltebrigge6 жыл бұрын
Tom is absolutely right about the difference between gangsta and gangster. They have different meanings. Linguist John McWhorter talks about it in depth on a recent episode of his Lexicon Valley podcast.
@huan42306 жыл бұрын
I immediately had Tom's #1 in my head when I saw the title of this video!!!!:))))
@Keithustus6 жыл бұрын
My vote goes to Château Roquefort (2007), a box-is-the-castle game of mice trying to collect cheese and falling into pits when other players move the ceilings around and trap them in pits. Great kids game!
@ShadowedSaintTV6 жыл бұрын
My favorite obscure board game is I, Spy published by Lost Boys Productions. I think this is the best international spy game I have played. But I am open to suggestions.
@warmachineuk6 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised On the Underground is considered obscure. It still gets played at Manircon in the UK.
@leonrussell2626 жыл бұрын
Do Zee and Sams beards come off when they take their glasses off?
@Steve-L6 жыл бұрын
1. Trias: an older game, that is out of print and is my 2nd favorite game of all time. It is a tile game, where the start of the game you have the super continent Pangaea, and the players have dinosaurs. During the game you break up the continent and move your dinosaurs to new islands. Points are scored for how big the islands are and who has the most dinosaurs on them. I don't care for most thinky games, but this has a different kind of thinkiness to it that I love. 2. Three Dragon Ante: an out of print game, there were 2 versions. I don't see this game get mentioned. It is a card game. The game is a combination of luck and skill, and blends concepts from traditional card games such as poker, hearts, and rummy. It is currently my 10th favorite game of all time. 3. Boomtown: this game has seen some love and mention, but not much and it is out of print. It is my 25th favorite game of all time. Another card game with the old west mining theme. 4. Crude: The Oil Game: a much older game (1974) and is currently my 27th favorite game of all time. I was amazed how this older game seemd modern in mechanics when I played it teh 1st time 2 years ago. 5. Heebie Jeebies: an obvious rip-off of Say Anything, but this party game is pretty fun. I revcently got it, and we like it. My 54th favorite game. 6. The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey: a replacement to the Lord of the Rings co-op but dice driven. My 63rd favorite game. 7. Pony Express: an out of print old west race game, with a small amount of dexterity, as well as a Liar's Dice mecchanic. My 87th favorite game.
@johnr80956 жыл бұрын
i was going to say add Battle For Hill 218. That's pretty much forgotten game. I had never even heard of Ogre 218. That might be something to pick up.
@KristoVaher6 жыл бұрын
Tintas seems nice, but I'd place Ekö in its place? :D Has Zee played it?
@jimsmith74456 жыл бұрын
BRAVO for you Sam... I LOVE "Age of War"... I bring it to every game group... that and two other games... "Condo tire" and "Tiny Epic Galaxies"....
@DarthEd776 жыл бұрын
Tom, since you like Magical Athlete, have you played Monster Derby? It's pretty similar, I think.
@ericfrancis78166 жыл бұрын
I'm sure someone beat me to this, but: Sam, the book is Going Postal, and it's one of the best of the Discworld books.
@erik-janvanoosten14506 жыл бұрын
Tom, you forgot to put Mage Craft on your list! That bagbuilder, spellcasting, combobuilding thing with the gems. Thanks to your review I hunted it down and its a great game!
@Hieronymus-Pseudonymous6 жыл бұрын
Interesting choice for a redo. Have you discovered that many better obscure games since last time?
@gronith6 жыл бұрын
Funny Eruption is available at nearly all the stores here. I love it! Best Tile playing game IMHO.
@bobnetherton49576 жыл бұрын
I was a bit surprised to see Artifacts Inc on the list, but I certainly agree with Sam's point that it is sort of lost sitting on the shelves next to Near and Far and Above and Below. That is infortunate because it is a rather nice worker placement game with very cool artwork.
@jessicajudge93266 жыл бұрын
Very limited replay though- seems like the same game every time. It was advertised on amazon lately on sale. Got it for christmas and I'm already ready to sell it on.
@bobnetherton49576 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up. I haven't played it enough to see that, but I'll keep an eye out. Appreciate the information.
@littleratblue6 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Lice Shower and Gooooooal!, whatever happened to the game that Sam and Zee were designing together?
@OctavianDumitriu6 жыл бұрын
"Age of war" it's in my collection and it is very appreciated by my family and my friends, too.
@fullmetaladam865 жыл бұрын
Got Eruption from Amazon a month ago after playing it a lot on boardgamearena. Very good game.
@MalcIgg6 жыл бұрын
I own Age of War - love it as a quicker version of Elder Sign Yes, used before/after longer games
@Sweetestsadist6 жыл бұрын
My top ten obscure games (I'm not sure how obscure they are, but I see very little on these games) 10 - The Hellgame Only on the list because of the rulebook which reads like a job orientation guide about working for the underworld (with Terry Pratchett style asterisks). Not a bad game but very hard to play with all the tiny cardboard squares involved. But really, the rule book is as entertaining as Space Alert's. 9 - FaceEater This game is stupid, but it's so over the top stupid that it's fun. It's kind of a very chaotic Gin Rummy with cards that are broken and bad 80's metalhead art. It's not uncommon to have one player go out on the first round, have that win stolen from him, and have the whole game just get sunk so nobody scores well. 8- Alcatraz Players are working together to escape Alcatraz. Every turn, somebody has to be a scapegoat, who can't do much, but might end up getting cards to screw everybody else up. The best part is that either everybody loses or everybody but one player wins meaning the end game is one person, essentially, being voted as the traitor trying to ruin the escape of the other players. 7 - Locke and Key The only Cryptozoic game I would consider a good game. A simple trick taking game where players have to bid cards of a certain color and amount to take the point card. The game has a bluffing mechanic, as all cards of the matching color add up to see if the card is taken. What really sells the game, though is that player's may aim for second place each round because the bonus for second is often as good or better than getting the points. 6 - Barbarossa/El Alamein I don't these are not well known, but rather they're not well known for being pretty solid deckbuilding games. The theme of WWII anime babes tend to make people overlook these as being only sold for that theme. I expected little else, but it was surprisingly a fun game. Most people don't know these games were originally printed with WWII stock pictures and not they're more perverse art. Worth the try. 5 - Space Station Zemo A game printed and given for free with Inquest Gamer. Players are trying to activate the last escape pod with their secret code while searching rooms to find equipment to fight each other. It's got the feel of a Munchkin game but with more in-depth gameplay. While still not a very deep game, it's a pretty fun time waster. 4 - Evil Baby Orphanage A game where Time Nannies are trying to pre-habilitate the worst people throughout history by teaching them proper behavior while they're babies. Most of the game is done by the controlling the actions of the babies by either discouraging or encouraging their behavior. Whoever has the set amount of points worth of babies at the beginning of their turn wins. 3- The Opulent Players are working together to run a speakeasy and earn money by trying to keep various mobsters, aristocrats, celebrities, and politicians happy when they visit. One player is the doorman who decides who can and can't get in while trying to keep the line from getting overfilled. One player is the bandleader who tries to get the band to play on tempo in the right key to keep the people on the floor happy. One player is the bartender who is trying to provide the types of drinks each class likes. The last player is the manager that's just trying to make up for wherever the other players are falling short. Each role is played very differently and there are several scenarios to change the game enough from the regular game to keep it feeling fresh. 2 - Discworld: Ankh Morpork I own every Discworld themed game (including Clacks) and this is the only one I enjoy playing. It's an area control game where players are trying to meet their hidden win condition by playing cards to place and remove figures to the board. Gameplay is very simple and intuitive as all of the gameplay is right on the cards you played. 1- Arcana My favorite deckbuilder. This is more than just buy cards and shuffle them into your deck to re-use them later. Players are actually bidding on each card they want, so an extra level of depth and interactivity that is lacking in most deckbuilders. Each player also has a different deck so there are different strengths that each player can build to. The game comes with extra cards to add variants and adding each and/or every one improves the game. (I'd recommend using them all.)
@hyvll6 жыл бұрын
Probably been said before, but V-Commandos if from a french canadian studio.
@reasonablecheese6 жыл бұрын
I love Age of War, one of the most played games I have to start a game day off!
@JaKamps6 жыл бұрын
I love the game Vegas (Las Vegas), & recently got VivaJava: the Dice Game. I may have to give Dice Age a look!
@shaneannigans6 жыл бұрын
I think Age of War qualifies because whenever I go into an FLGS and ask if they have it they have to look it up to see what it is. I can get it online easily but for some reason, local gamers and staff in at least 5 successful stores in my area haven't heard of it. Looks like good, simple, gateway fun so I'll be getting it :) I'm also glad they changed the theme from Risk Express
@ielmie6 жыл бұрын
Shane Annigans It's always in stock at my flgs. It's a favorite of the the owners.
@shaneannigans6 жыл бұрын
ielmie Lucky you! ☺
@chrissteele68786 жыл бұрын
Sam, I LOVE age of war! We play it in my small group all the time!!!
@nelstevens39516 жыл бұрын
have 17 of them (6 Zee, 6 Tom, 5 Sam) so guess that means I must be pretty obscure. Some of ones I don't have yet on the list also interest me quite some though, so even more obscurity on the lure...
@mattrodda19756 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I like the look of Super 11 (I checked it out on another vid), but I am after a good soccer game. (Football, for fellow Brits, just so nobody gets angry with me). Anyone got any recommendations?
@mnkymn6 жыл бұрын
Try SuperFut. It's a great Estonian game made by a friend of mine, you should be able to get a copy I think.
@mattrodda19756 жыл бұрын
Cheers, I'll look into it.
@christianamey35476 жыл бұрын
Check out Soccer City. The English edition was Kickstarted in 2015. The rule book is a little challenging to navigate but there are decent video tutorials to help you get started. Their website says they are sold out. There are two copies in the Geek Market; one from SoccerCity.
@cephalopad6 жыл бұрын
When Tom was doing the lead-in to his number one game I was really hoping it was going to be Vicious Fishes.
@smoothcriminal286 жыл бұрын
#7 was a Riot man. That shit was funny as hell lmao
@johnblue22706 жыл бұрын
So this is just like every other list Zee makes?
@TrevorJust6 жыл бұрын
Zee I so gangsta. He knows shells are hot when you catch them
@e7diablo6 жыл бұрын
Sam: Clacks or Codinca?
@SubjectNate6 жыл бұрын
Harvest Island is from Taiwan I believe.
@funkoxen6 жыл бұрын
which dice is sam and which dice is zee?
@Mepper.6 жыл бұрын
I own 3 of the games... Exactly 1 game from each list. What are the chances?
@willhash1646 жыл бұрын
Sam's #2... how fitting
@LookAtTheBacon6 жыл бұрын
Will Hash Nah, his list was the best here.
@BlimpMcGee6 жыл бұрын
I dieded
@frankbranham74046 жыл бұрын
I pleaded with Zev for a good half an hour once for him to spell his version "Magical Athelete". Sadly, I failed.
@jamesbrazeal38476 жыл бұрын
Grog Island and Comix.. favorite obscure games
@JohnLudlow6 жыл бұрын
I've mentioned this before, but mine is Drako, which I feel is sort of obscure.