WHY I HATE MY DISCOVERY 5 HSE LUXURY?!

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Here I talk about my Land Rover Discovery 5 HSE Luxury and why It's a love hate relationship. I also talk about the changes with the 2021 Discovery and simple mods that can make a 2018 model look the same!
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[@thedoctorsgarage]

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[@BionicRusty]

After a number of years away from JLR, I was thinking about buying one as a ‘retirement car’. Even though I’ve been bitten by JLR cars so many times, I can’t believe that I was thinking about it again. The worst was an XF which was 3 months out of warranty when the engine ate itself. It had already had over £10k of repairs when this happened and Jaguar wanted iro £13k for a new engine and turbos. The car was worth about £20k by now and I realised it was best to scrap it. After watching your videos on the Discovery, I’m staying with Volvo or one of the German brands. Thank you for bringing me to my senses. 👍

[@miked2371]

I have owned a 2018 HSE Lux for 6 months now, and have absolutely loved it. To be clear, i don't get to drive it often as my wife wont let it out of her sight. Having purchased it used off of a lease buy back, it came with the Land Rover Certified Pre Owned warranty and coverage. Before taking it off the lot, the dealership noticed that it was a bit sluggish when accelerating, and they replaced all of the ignition coils which seemed to solve the problem. Not sure how common that is, but the dealership was adamant on getting it fixed before i drove away and i have to say that we've been thrilled with it since. The level of care that their mechanics show is exceptional. I've owned many North American domestic and import vehicles and often find that a mechanic is willing to turn a blind eye to small issues, to get your car out of the bay and move on to the next. Kudo's to the professionalism of the JLR team. As for the drivability and reliability, it has been superb so far. The features throughout the vehicle are exceptional, and it really is living up to the hype.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Great to hear Mike- Thanks for the comment

[@tonydent6760]

I bought a 3.0d HSE in August and I love it. Has not put a foot wrong and I have driven through floods and snow. No car today offers the same value for money IMO. I wanted to buy British rather than all the BMW/ Audi’s I had before. So head and heart are happy.

[@damiencaulfield5142]

I agree! Mine is 2018 HSE no issues at all! Every car make has it's good and bad!

[@philipmarlowe4682]

Jaguar is british but don't they make the disco sport and the evoke in india or somewhere

[@dirkdesouza5975]

@@philipmarlowe4682 Its one company now, JLR is Indian owned. Tata motors.

[@dirkdesouza5975]

Funny I have the exact same year and have similar spec. Don't have the rear screens, but have massage seats and heads up display. When I first got the car I didn't like the looks, the rear number plate nonsense, not to mention the sheer size of it. As the miles wore on, I absolutely fell in love with it. It has not put a foot wrong and it gives me and the entire family the confidence to go literally anywhere, roads or not. I actually drove it up a ski slope!!! Weather is a non-issue, rain, snow, sleet, scorching heat, no issue, you travel in first class luxury. Having a longer wheelbase than the RRS, it drives nicer too soaking up the bumps thumps that would otherwise made themselves know in the sport. The rear most seats, 3rd row, are not bad either, heated in my spec and work well for the kids anytime, or adults for short hauls. Definitely will get a 2021, love this thing and it is like a Sherman tank through the Canadian winters.

[@shepchester3567]

I asked the good Doctor this, perhaps you might have an even more first hand opinion? I currently drive a 2016 RRS, and considering changing to the Disco later this year, it looks like you may have done a similar thing? If that's so, I was wondering what its like in terms of manoeuvring and parking compared to the Sport, given that its even bigger? also any other pros and cons between the two, you may care to mention? Thanks in advance, if you do.

[@dirkdesouza5975]

@@shepchester3567 I really like the Disco, and because its not on the RRS platform, it has a longer wheelbase, it sits more comfortable on the road. The highway manners on it are also more relaxed and it just seems to smooth out the bumps and thumps better than the RRS. Taking nothing away from the RRS, I do love this gen of car it is more "nimble" and handles better, the Disco just seems "more grown up" if you like. Driving around town though you will feel its size. This is a "big boy" and never lets you for get that. I guess having the two extra "real seats" in the back has its cost of largeness. Hope that helps.

[@shepchester3567]

@@dirkdesouza5975 Thank you for that very helpful reply, much appreciated.

[@ryanfiser1571]

I bought mine new in 2017. I have almost 60k miles on mine. Tons of little frustrations especially in fit and finish (squeaks) and infotainment issues. I seem to (knock on wood) have most of those issues dealt with after three sometimes-frustrating years. This vehicle does do a lot of things exceptionally well. Extremely comfortable, capable and spacious, great ride with air suspension. Great tow vehicle.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks for your comment Ryan- same here-It’s a race to iron them all out before the warranty runs out! But as you say overall love it - and when the Discovery 6 is launched will likely be keen for that too!

[@coolsquad7428]

What infotainment issues you had

[@ryanfiser1571]

Cool Squad random glitches, camera issues, countless (endless) required updates, Bluetooth no longer works for music (Spotify disconnects constantly). Also had tons of issues with sound quality, popping noises when playing music, weird speaker feedback issues. All kinds of stuff.

[@coolsquad7428]

@@ryanfiser1571eee

[@janmaric]

When you start the car just let it get warm and turn off the start stop... The engine will last long... The most problems come with the heat shock, when driving agressive when the engine is cold. These engines are good they have an iron block and aluminium head. Just let it get warm do not exceed 2200 rpm until its warm. Cheers

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Great tip Jan- I see more and more people saying this about warming up

[@Sweepdog700]

How long till it gets warm would you say

[@janmaric]

@@Sweepdog700 The working coolant temperature is 90 degreem celsius and oil about 95. If you dont wait until your engine is warm and you thottle it hard above 2200 rpm you stress the engine (metal). The result is excesive wear of the engine. An another problem from my opinion is that the new ingenium engines are made of aluminum which aborbs faster but cools faster too. Trust me let the engine get warm and everything will be ok... i know ist boring... but it is same like a person ho run 10 miles if you are not warmed up :D. Cheers!

[@Sweepdog700]

@@janmaric thanks for that 👍

[@LeoGS400]

I literally love my 2018 Discovery 5 HSE Luxury SD4. I only had a minor problem with WiFi access point that was fixed in guarantee. I put 18” Compomotive wheels with 285/60R18 BF Goodrich TACKO2. I go off road with other Disco 1 & 2 and Defender and it’s absolutely capable! Plenty of space, 7 seater, very comfortable. If it lasts a few years without defects (touch wood) it’s the best car I ever had!

[@thedoctorsgarage]

great wheel and tyres set up!

[@jonathancollard3710]

Owned Disco 5 HSE for a year ...306hp 3 ltr diesel which is creamy smooth, potent and efficient. Other than the spare wheel pressure sensor continually raising a fault it’s been totally reliable. 14,000 miles. Drives like/better than previous RR Sport x2 and RR Vogue. I also own 2004 Disco 2.5 ( run out model) and after 16 years it is still lovely... yes it’s agricultural in comparison but as a “mobile skip” and green lane diva it’s brilliant. One tip on spec... the sun roofs will eventually become a problem... electro mechanical items exposed to massive heat and cold swing, rough car washes and rubber seals never “oiled” with silicon spray are asking for long term issues eventually.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks for the comment Jonathan- great to hear your experience and great tip about the sun roof. Sounds like I need to oil the seals so it doesn’t start leaking over time!

[@ApplesnCastles]

I recently picked up a used (2019 Lux, 3.0sdv6 in white, with a good spec-on-top so to speak) and am happy thus far. I steered away from the 2 litre chiefly as I'd heard about the issues you experienced, you were lucky to have had warranty! Well done & I think you have a very balanced opinion given the woes you've experienced with yours! This one I have, has around 8 months of LR warranty remaining. I'm seriously considering swapping the piano black interior trim inside though (£1,300 with discount!); even at 16k miles it's not faired well (this car came direct from Land Rover mgmt). In the past, I've had several Defenders (a 300tdi 90 & 3 or 4 subsequent Td5's in 110 guise - the latter engines of which I thought were great, just love the td5's distinctive engine sound - particularly when coming off the accelerator when in motion!). I have always liked the Defenders & if money & space were no objects, I'd have a very tailored to my-eye 90 too! Over the years, I've run a Discovery 3, then a 4 followed by an L322 Range (4.4tdv8) & then this one. None of these were new at all (I did run a new Volvo V90 XC Ocean Race inbetween & very briefly a new RS7 though); I generally bought my discovery's & the RR with higher mileages on them & then did the often-required jobs (cam & fuel-pump-belts, transmission flushes, front lower arms & other common failure points) but this time I was aiming for a very nearly new, new-Defender (d300) but the used car market was such that I just wouldn't overpay as much for a (new-type) Defender as I would have needed to, when a Discovery 5 was essentially much better value for money all around for my needs. So whilst I've still over-paid for this D5, it was still 10-30k less than a good-spec Defender. So, I'm thinking about ordering a new Discovery 5 & using this D5 until the warranty lapses, which should more or less coincide with delivery of the new D5 (build time of the Metropolitan is currently 9-12months). I love how these cars are capable of so much, are so practical, comfortable and (I think) unlike the RR's, are far less bling. I loved your LR related video's inc. the wrapping - good job there for a novice 😁 I've never done any wrapping, except for some badly wrapped bits on a Fireblade I did in 2010. I've considered doing likewise for some external piano-black trim on this D5 but I think I'll probably replace the a/b/c pillar external-trims as one or two are quite badly marked & I'm not sure that after the effort, I'll be too pleased with the work my inexperienced fingers will have done! Btw, I thought the new D300 engine drives very well in a Defender, especially around town & at sub-60Mph speeds; not driven it in the D5 though; whilst it's less torquey than the SDv6, it' feels well tuned around town (at motorway speeds, the SDv6 seems to pull much better). The D350 in the L405 is even better but then, that vehicle feels heavier; wouldn't a D350 option in a D5 be nice, albeit unlikely but I would very much like that additional power without compromising its reasonable fuel consumption figures.. Love your video's, channel & opinions :)

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks so much for your detailed comment - some really interesting stuff there- and for watching the channel!

[@grahamr7]

I have owned a HSE Lux 3.0 litre for 3 years now. I have done 66,000 miles and the only time it has been in the garage is for a service. I use it as a people carrier, a van and tourer and it is superb to drive.

[@damiencaulfield5142]

My 2018 Discovery HSE 3.0 diesel, no issues what so ever! I live in Ireland it never stops raining, storms floods etc. Great 4x4.👍👍👍

[@3204clivesinclair]

Congratulations on winning the biggest prize in automotive history, a fault free JLR product - odds higher than winning the jackpot on Euromillions .

[@stevenmcconnell]

Very few issues with my D4. But I very often drive past Toyota’s with their bonnets up.

[@coolsquad7428]

He might secretly gotten a lemon idk

[@CaptChaos1964]

I really like the modern Land Rovers, but this video sums it up, a friend had his engine dismantle itself on his Discover 4, Land Rover wanted 16k to replace it, sold it to a breaker in the end.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

I love them too but as you say do have a tendency to break apart!

[@charliefox6456]

A friend of mine, his wife's Evoque blew up just out of warranty, land rover want 14000 Euro for a new engine. This is not right 😬. That said I love my defender

[@thedoctorsgarage]

@@charliefox6456 so bad when it’s juts out of warranty... mine has juts crossed the threshold- hoping it will be ok now it has a new engine!

[@PoetClbrown]

I read basically every comment and it seems everyone that's complaining about engine issues were talking about Diesel engines. I'm thinking of getting the 2021 Discovery Gas/petrol engine. Has anyone had issues with the gas engines?

[@CarsofGlasgow]

Great video, new to your channel! This is reminding me of when we picked up a RR Velar and it was having issues with going into reverse on collection day :(

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks! 🤣 does not sound great

[@thomaspanjshiri9663]

seeing this "spaceship" my MY96 110 300tdi military is made 1 week after inventing the wheel..smile..! The disco has sure more ECUs and other magic things than my 110 got rivets and water ingress..but there are also common features, you got IR reflecting windscreen, my beast got allaround IR reflecting colour..! But I have to admit the disco is for its intended use a outstanding piece of machinery and you are a lucky man, you also have "a real mans toy" in your garage..in case another motor is knocked out or has urge to cough..greets

[@jackwilliam446]

We’ve had 5 Land Rover/Range Rover vehicles and luckily never had anything major go wrong, but I will admit the electrics is quite unreliable, that’s one of the major issues of these cars. But otherwise, I’d still say they’re the best SUVs on the market and just class. I would buy one any day of the week

[@thedoctorsgarage]

I agree, for me it’s very much a love/hate relationship

[@jackwilliam446]

@@thedoctorsgarage yeah exactly, I mean I absolutely love the one we have now, we have a defender however it’s just frustrating when minor things like the screen doesn’t turn on for example, so you have to lock the car and then unlock it again and it’s just a pain but as you say, love hate relationship with them

[@davidgriffiths7068]

I run/repair a disco 4 and totally get where you’re coming from, you hate them..........but you love them 😂😂

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂 I could quite put it in to words but yes - exactly that!

[@globalyouthcare9932]

do you recommend this car to buy?

[@msheep66]

I am now running a Discovery 2 but I hope to order a My 21 that's if they have improved the reliability.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

2021 does look very good- new infotainment looks great

[@Sage4859]

Disco 4, SDV 256 HP, 2016, 100K km no single issue, fingers crossed, loughing that mine was made on Wednsday in UK ;) There is no other car like Disco 4, love it.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Think I got the Friday car!

[@e.rivera4251]

A friend had one...no engine problems ...BUT wow...all electrical and software issues were driving him crazy........he sold it.

[@gwynbartley9176]

Just selling my 3 litre HSE Lux. 4 years old in October. All wheels are badly tarnished but LR would not replace them when I raised it before warranty expired. Rotary gear selector sometimes defaults to Sport setting on start off so engine stuck in a low gear, revving the cold engine unnecessarily. Raised it in warranty period - nothing done. Disappointing as have bought last three LRs almost new from same dealer. It’s a great car, extremely comfortable but it has it’s faults. Going back to Lexus

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks for your comment Gwyn, I’ve heard so many stories like this! Such a shame as they are great cats when they work!

[@kenrehill8775]

Land rovers and boats: the two happiest days of the owners lives are the day they buy and the day they sell.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂😂😂

[@shieldaigbencher]

A friend of mine who had top of the range Discos for ever took one for a test drive and the engine blew up actually blowing engine bits through the bonnet and the sump. Being recovered on a test drive is not a good look.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Wow! That is not a good look 😂

[@robertcaves3797]

Did he take photos or a vid ???? like to have seen it.

[@raheeb1]

You have the 3L V6 bi-turbo diesel I presume? Strange, the engine block crack. That's quite rare I believe.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

No it’s the 2L- I’ve heard quite a few reports of it in the 2018 2L engines unfortunately

[@callumbrown4938]

GLS is an alternative for this, massive spacious usable 7 seater

[@coolsquad7428]

Yes it is bigger but remember the discovery is smaller at 196 inches as the gls is 208

[@gorankordic8106]

Yes, "alternative" that's double the price.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

New GLS is very nice

[@kenrehill8775]

Fuck it, I did it. bought a New discovery hse luxury a couple of days ago. I’m looking forward to the second happiest day of my life in 18 months when I sell it on to some mug who’ll get all the bills

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂enjoy- they are great cars on the whole!

[@EnGieBenGie90]

Great review, I have the Disco 4, have had a few niggly issues, then came the major issue.... GEAR BOX fault..... £5500 to get a reconditioned one from Land Rover, but came with x2 Year Warranty thankfully. Have just given it a full service along with the timing belt & tensioners. Will keep it for another few years then will be looking to change up to one of these in Aintree green, love that colour! Also, just a side note... HSE - "High Specification Equipment"

[@EugenNiedaszkowski]

That's why I've chosen 3.0 V6 petrol one. These tiny diesel engines frighten me and nobody wants to buy them second hand.

[@ianburit3705]

My old 1991 200 DTi ran on cooking oil and diesel mixed with a splash of unleaded, always started hot or cold, sold it sadly after 10 years trouble free owners ship, done 90 mph, oh it had done "Only" 240.000 MILES so still plenty of life left in it/ Diesels of the older style were/ are unbreakable - google CAMEL TROPHY YEARS / driving under water then out the other side ? NO PROBLEM. LOL google it !

[@EugenNiedaszkowski]

@@ianburit3705 I do agree. But they don't make them this way no longer...

[@ianburit3705]

@@EugenNiedaszkowski But they are, google INEOS GRENADIER in the road test stage, pre production ones out on the road, other you tube channels testing them.

[@EugenNiedaszkowski]

@@ianburit3705 it says the Diesel engine is 3.0 L turbocharged BMW B57 :-D

[@nasaspacemanwho6711]

I wonder how these compare to the new xc90s for space, features and reliability.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Never owned an XC90 but to be fair I’ve not heard anything bad said about them- would be a good comparison as I believe are pretty similar size wise

[@sujpuj]

Once you lose faith it’s takes hella long time to get it back! like you said, your always on pins thinking if it’s gonna break again!

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Completely agree- it’s just slipped out of warranty too 😫

[@jonathansmith283]

doc- what would be the first 5 things that would go wrong , on a 2020 disco ? good video. ~ JDS/CT

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks for the comment! I'm no expert but have a read through the comments - mainly electrical I think - or you may get a good one and have no issues at all!

[@jonathansmith283]

@@thedoctorsgarage I am looking for a vehicle. I like the looks / feel of the discovery. I am leaning towards the MB GLC. again- good video . JDS/CT

[@Ktheodoss]

I have always been tempted to buy one. They are beautiful. They have all the tech and they are super capable. And again, I just love their style. But I cannot squeeze the trigger on a purchase. These accounts of serious issues are just too often.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks for your comment - great cars and as you can see from the comments here- some are absolutely fine!

[@edw4543]

I’m the same!

[@damiencaulfield5142]

I have 2018 HSE luxury, no issues what so ever! Just do it! Buy one!

[@bigshort9296]

The ~British Leyland legacy is alive and kicking in Coventry.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂

[@paulharrison6373]

BMW AUDI and Merc haves problems too

[@paulmusson]

Wow, that is a big issue. From my experience, once you lose confidence in a car like that you never get it back. Maybe time to change away from the all Land Rover garage? Also, what happened at the end?

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂 my SD card ran out of space and I didn’t have time to go back out! I’m sort of hoping with a brand new engine it will keep on going-unfortunately they didn’t reset the mileage though

[@paulmusson]

Yeah I would hope so! I suppose the odometer is the mileage of all components (suspension etc.) so not a surprise they didn’t reset it. I imagine it’s impossible to reset at the dealer anyway for security reasons. When the SD or battery runs out most KZbinrs switch to their iPhone and finish off with that 😂

[@thedoctorsgarage]

@@paulmusson need to up my game!

[@paulmusson]

@@thedoctorsgarage I think you look remarkably comfortable in front of the camera for a “new” KZbinr. Very impressive. I guess the day job has prepared you well for KZbin life 👍

[@kevinmaina3657]

“Electrical fault which is pretty standard in this car”😂

[@Kumarthanki]

I have a Range Rover Evoque with no issues and a Land Rover discovery sport The discovery sport has had countless issues and is currently in the garage awaiting a new gear lever. Too many issues with Land Rover has cost me over £7000 of my own money and countless loss hours Next car : My good old 15 year Ford C max 😅 Land Rover : thanks but no thanks

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂🤦🏼‍♂️

[@MePeterNicholls]

I want nothing less than tdv6, adaptive cruise, 360 cam and locking rear diff.

[@mattrooke3210]

Quality nowadays is now measured in equipment and technology/toys, the more premium your car of any make the more problems your going to have see JD Powers survey. Compare the actual quality of your £75,000 modern car compared to an equivalent 1980/90 Mercedes Benz, the modern cars are nowhere near built as well.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

I agree that’s true

[@floramcdonald5524]

I couldn't buy that car because of the location of rear registration plate. I can't get my head around why everything isn't central.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

It's the same offset design as the discovery 4 and those before it

[@turnbulljohn94]

On my second D5 and no problems whatsoever.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

That’s good to hear- even with the whole engine failing I am still a big fan! Are you considering the 2021 upgrade...?

[@turnbulljohn94]

@@thedoctorsgarage not at the moment. May consider 2022.

[@tbonesteak4961]

Landrover: we have a small Fine issue it’s broken engine block 😳 Toyota: Hold my beer 🍺

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂

[@glennowen1121]

Friend of mine has had a hybrid Range Rover for six months from new so far it’s spent 7weeks in total in the repair shop having numerous electrical faults sorted he said it’s best looking shit car he’s ever had!! 😂😂

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂😂😂

[@mohammedabbir6024]

You are giving me nightmares now because I just bought one recently 😒

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Some of them are fine! I might have just got a bad one....

[@dirkdesouza5975]

Enjoy it, it will be great!!!

[@PoetClbrown]

Well this was a click bait. You don't hate the car at all.

[@andyking5431]

One minute you love it next minute yiu hate it

[@msheep66]

I have just got rid of mine after having the windscreen leaking. They are lovely cars to drive but they need to be more reliable.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Completely agree- I've had a few people say they have a leak from the windscreen!

[@ryanfiser1571]

I had that happen, too. Was a big mess one rainy morning when I opened the door.

[@damiencaulfield5142]

I live in Ireland it never stops raining! No issues with my 2018 HSE disco.

[@haroldwhan9715]

My windscreen also leaked. JLR admitted a manufacturing fault and offered replacement. They refused to honour my consumer rights and dealership rebonded the original windscreen which apparently was too small for the aperture. Nightmare at the beginning of covid with multiple electrical faults as a result of the water ingress. If you buy outright they just don't want to know about any faults. Steer clear and buy a house with the money 💰

[@thedoctorsgarage]

That’s so bad Harold - the hole was too big for the screen 😂 sounds like me trying to DIY fit window in my old defender

[@davidbuxton7921]

What happened to the conclusion of the video , I was disappointed not to hear your closing comments!.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Sorry the camera ran out! 🤦

[@damiencaulfield5142]

I have been searching for it! Charge her up again, part 2 maybe?🤔

[@sultanalkhusaibi1145]

My dream car

[@thedoctorsgarage]

👌🏻

[@quintijnkroesbergen5611]

My dad had exactly the same problem with his discovery 5. He also needed a whole new engine...

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Hope he got it covered under warranty! 💰

[@quintijnkroesbergen5611]

@@thedoctorsgarage Yeah the problem began just before the warranty had ended, but they fixed it 2 months after the warranty had ended. Luckily, he reported the problem when the warranty was still valid, so he didn’t have to pay anything!

[@coolsquad7428]

@@quintijnkroesbergen5611 was it the desiel

[@quintijnkroesbergen5611]

@@coolsquad7428 yes

[@tomar8210]

Why would would you hate a lovely car like that

[@ianburit3705]

After happily owning a 1991 discovery 200 DTi for 10 trouble free years then having to sell it as i became disabled, the much later ones have become utter crap, the latest Defender Is a car with a landrover badge.. For the last few years i have made do with a freelander 1 TD4 (BMW engine) automatic HSE version, but looking for an older 200/ 300 DTi or a TD5 with its swiss Cheese chassis - Have welder - will fix - but the newer ones are pure electrickery crap./ The landrover history of company ownership Is the problem, purchased by various car companies thus changed power plants like an essex girl changes her high heals, its current owners are just an INDIAN multi conglomerate famous for its steel mills (shame they never provided Landrover with its steel for TD5 chassis eh ?.).. THE car to own IF you want offroad reliability Is not on general sale yet, but, It looks a bit like a REAL DEFENDER, nothing like the smarmed up products now available from RR or LR.. try googling "Grenadier"

[@thedoctorsgarage]

I’ve seen the new Grenadier pictures etc- does look good but not sure on some of the styling at the back? Just uploaded a new video of my TD5 defender!

[@ianburit3705]

@@thedoctorsgarage Styling ? depends if you want a Chelsea Tractor or a competent rugged 4x4. the rear styling IS clever, but copied from older Japanese 4x4s

[@nickdepoortere1721]

I love the disco

[@thedoctorsgarage]

👌🏻

[@stevethebarbarian99]

Bad luck. I love my Discovery Sport HSE, which has been faultless.

[@groomingchief6574]

I really need to stop looking at this brand. Very interested in the vehicles but so many people have problems with relatively new ones I think I'd need to be extremely lucky to even make it out of a three year lease without something breaking and not being covered under warranty. It seems to me too many things go wrong. I'm looking at Ford at the moment and I've had nothing but problems in my early days of driving with Ford but I have this sense that Land Rover is no more reliable with three times the price tag.

[@groomingchief6574]

...and after all that I've gone and ordered a Defender. Hope I don't regret it someday.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Great choice!! Sure you’ll love it

[@groomingchief6574]

@@thedoctorsgarage Thanks doc, I'm excited. I decided to buy instead of lease this time with the intent to be driving this vehicle for at least four or five years, maybe longer if it 'behaves'. :)

[@user-ip5fm3ck4p]

@@groomingchief6574 hows it going?

[@sandeepsandhu4286]

Just bad luck mate ...i have heard similar stories with other brands too. As far as tech goes... thats why i prefer cars old school, that have simple engineering...unfortunately peoole love gimmics ... guess u get what u ask for !!

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Agree - my old defender doesn’t have the same issues- but then again I also get wet feet when I drive it in the rain! 😂

[@sandeepsandhu4286]

@@thedoctorsgarage Cheeky lol

[@noordinaryjoe1414]

You could just sell it and buy something else?

[@alialmansouri4538]

i had the 2017 HSE model . i have sold it 2 weeks ago due too many problems with the car AC,seats,windows and many. more... the engine in the car cracked and needed to be changed i was lucky as it was 1 month before the warranty expired.... i do not reccomend this car to anyone...

[@thedoctorsgarage]

nightmare!

[@BullMotorrad]

Do you think the model 2021 fix this problems ?

[@bekabeka71]

Such a stunning car inside out

[@thedoctorsgarage]

👌🏼

[@thomasjohnmahon6120]

i have a rover Evoque 2012 and it's the same nothing but troubles and still today having troubles with it from day one i just can't afford to change it there rubbish and wouldn't have another one

[@dgbourdon1325]

What happened! Video just stopped at review time!!!

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Sorry video camera broke at that point 🤦 take a spare with me now

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks for watching!

[@stephenclark9174]

Is engine 2.0l 4 cyl or 3.0l v6

[@thedoctorsgarage]

This was the 2.0l

[@somebody6122]

@@thedoctorsgarage hear me out, if u buy a range rover u have to rally take a look at what engines are brakeing often. If i would be buying another land rover i would buy a 306hp 3.0 diesel or a 256hp 3.0 diesel. Those engines are the most reliable in my opinion. I had 3 of them neither of them broke and with my friend who had a 292hp diesel engine it broke and he had to replace the whole engine. So if u buy one get one of those two engines all og other ones are shit and unreliable

[@2steaksandwiches665]

Cracked engine block? You never hear about that with modern cars...

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Hmmm interesting...that was what I was told by the LR garage!

[@thedoctorsgarage]

But I’m no mechanic

[@2steaksandwiches665]

@@thedoctorsgarage I don’t doubt them. I’m sure it’s true. It just sounds like an old-school problem that doesn’t happen anymore

[@jordifernandez9721]

I have a 2017 discovery 5 HSE luxury, same problem after 3,5 years and 85k km , engine stops when I share the D , same diagnose , x2 cylinders lost compresión , engine to be replaced , unfortunately out of warranty for 6 months , LR offer me to pay just 20% , rest to be paid by them , but after x3weeks repaired , again another problem , this time on the L manifold , the part above the engine :( I have the same feelings like you , I LOVE this car , but I ve lost any trusty on it :(

[@thedoctorsgarage]

@@jordifernandez9721 thanks for your comment - what a nightmare! Out of interest how much was it quoted to change the engine out of warranty?

[@andym1966]

That kind of ended abruptly...

[@thedoctorsgarage]

My SD card was full! One of my first videos on here

[@hungryboy424]

Most Landrovers spend more time at dealerships than with the owner, total rubbish, i will never buy another !

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂 probably true

[@somebody6122]

hear me out, if u buy a range rover u have to really take a look at what engines are brakeing often. If i would be buying another land rover i would buy a 306hp 3.0 diesel or a 256hp 3.0 diesel. Those engines are the most reliable in my opinion. I had 3 of them neither of them broke and with my friend who had a 292hp diesel engine it broke and he had to replace the whole engine. So if u buy one get one of those two engines all other ones are shit and unreliable

[@thedoctorsgarage]

I agree with you- at the time of buying didn’t realise but from what I’ve seen the 3.0L engines do seem to have less issues. The downside being you have to service a 3 every year but every 2 years with the 2L. I suppose that’s a small price to pay for the engine not to break!

[@stanleyflooring6772]

I often wonder if the lack of mechanical sympathy that alot of moronic LR owners have affects their reliability further down the line.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

What tips do you have for people to be mechanically sympathetic to a new car?

[@stanleyflooring6772]

@@thedoctorsgarage well for instance, driving the car 1 mile to pick your kids up and coming home, letting the fuel tank sip the last litre of fuel before filling it up, thinking a coolant temperature gauge means the cars warm and you can start driving everywhere at full throttle. Driving a cold engine hard is the biggest one, and although not an owners fault, oil change intervals are too long on todays cars. And Damn people, learn some wash technique, every used land rover or range rover ive seen looks like it was washed with 60 grit sandpaper and fairy liquid

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Fair points- I’m sure a lot of people who buy modern cars don’t know half those things could damage their car

[@diegonavarro708]

You got a new engine under warraty and you still badmouth Land Rover

[@thedoctorsgarage]

It’s a complicated story if you watch my videos here on KZbin- essentially I still love my Discovery despite its problems!

[@joedaman8436]

It's so ugly, loved the old Discovery.. Land Rover are ruining everything they make now, these cars are all turning into mini Range Rovers, lol, the new Defender is horrendous! they should have stuck with the original shape, like Mercedes have with the G-Wagon.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

I quite like the new defender shape

[@joedaman8436]

@@thedoctorsgarage fair play mate, everyone has there own tastes, it's not for me, maybe I'm getting old and falling behind the times? Lol

[@KnowRealIndia9124]

Mehta ?? R u Indian!

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Half yes! 🇮🇳

[@Hasretaydin1999]

I don’t like this car is very bad design looks very horrible I prefer Volvo XC90 or Seat Tarraco

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Is it the rear number plate that does it for you?! XC90 is nice- not so sure about the seat...

[@somebody6122]

on the other hand xc90 may look more elegant etc. but land rovers arent built to be the most elegant and the best good looking cars, they are built to take u everywhere and in comfort. And also u can just buy a range rover sport whitch is as capable as discovery its just better looking