Disney's Wish: An Immoral and DANGEROUS Message

[@TheDragonsTreasure]

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[@theminicast6619]

honestly...your right. I mean I already was siding with the king and at first I will admit why people were hating on WIsh so much but..now I really do see the reason why. I love the songs, and music in it, the style of the art but, the writing could have been better. I personally love the idea of how they had him be a good guy to look up to, and slowly build up to him losing his last straw. may I note he was tempted to use the forbidden book but when his wife talked to him considering he was dealing with reasonable stress, he put it down after calming down realizing its not a good idea. I did think about the possibility for some wishes to be bad and I liked the message that not all wishes should come true or if it's physically possible like a freaking lady flying like peter pan. he wanted everyone safe! when I look closer, Asha is a spoiled brat and its sad they made her that way. spreading a message that its ok to be a narcissistic brat who can't stand the word no and take a better hint of learn to grow up. all of this happened because of HER! she IS the villain of Wish now that I think about it. It's sad people including kids are becoming like people like Asha! I did love the idea of what corruption can truly do to a person WITH GOOD INTENTIONS! meaning he was a completely good person, before dark magic took hold of him even when he was banished into the mirror. I also wished that his wife..could have had a better understanding for her husband's rage and stand against Asha for misbehaving this way. but she wasn't in the room when it happened. the very first argument before everything went down! it could have sent a much better message. and maybe for once have the protagonist be a male instead of a damn female all the time!? I'm female myself and I would like a male protagonist main character for once like they used to. Males can be good characters too! but of course this feminist bullshit of "oh lets make all the princesses and main characters be a female, communist barbie doll! because barbie can do everything and anything she wants! all girls like that!" sorry for the long comment but I loved your video and it made great points. thanks for making me really see the full truth.

[@FireHeatLight]

"Prolly"?

[@Razdasoldier]

So they made the minority character the bad guy? (The white guy)

[@madamefluffy4788]

@@FireHeatLight Just another way to say 'probably'. Don't take it too personally.

[@slevinchannel7589]

I agree with tis video here but also wanna remind everyone about the proven War against Children the GOP and the Conservatives do: The 3. GOP Video by Some-More-News called GOP Abolishes Public Schools, shows this nicely

[@iandor1381]

Took my 9 year old to see this and she instantly saw through it. She says: "but the people of the kingdom were using him and only cared about wishes." Proud moment

[@YahwehisGodandYeshuaisKingiamr]

Smart girl. Prayers Jehovah helps her grow in knowledge and wisdom even more in Yeshua's name amen.

[@BlackCroft666]

Be proud of your Kid. In a world filled with selfish idiots it will be Not an easy Life for her.

[@HavianEla]

You seem like a good parent raising a bright kid. Keep up the good work!

[@taliagmail.com2005]

that little girl was right about the characters

[@flannelpillowcase6475]

and this is why i will never have kids lol. i wouldn't be able to live myself anymore than i already have to if i brought an intelligent kid with a strong moral compass into this disgusting world filled with the disease of humanity just to suffer constantly.

[@ivanelugo]

You know what's ironic? That the movie poster says "be careful what you wish for"

[@MPbmfm]

This! So much this

[@dandantsm6560]

And here's the guy talking about how much they're saying the opposite. That's what's ironic.

[@MPbmfm]

Maybe it was part of a cut plot but Disney thought it would sell more tickets so they kept it

[@CrimsonMey]

Wish 2: Asha Fucks Up The Whole Boogaloo

[@MoonManMoonMan]

@@dandantsm6560keep huffin’ that copium buddy :)

[@dawnvee3796]

I kinda wish magnifico was a twist hero, he seems bad initially, but it turns out his methods are to protect people from their wishes being granted all at once causing chaos, giving a theme of "you don't always get what you wish for". Asha could combat this and bring about chaos that she and magnifico have to begrudgingly work together to solve, and view each other as father and daughter by the end when Asha has no dad, and adding that magnifico lost his child because of his own wish. He could have a song where he talks about the bad wishes, how he struggles with the weight of his kingship, and maybe how he's preparing Asha to one day take his place

[@TheOddityFair]

I love it! It’s like the rewrite of Raya where she’s the one who was trying to steal the jewel. Both would’ve been far more interesting.

[@fosphor8920]

But that doesn't follow THE MESSAGE, also known as not being woke enough

[@jessicanoelle2012jp]

I think he should've gotten trapped in the book and the book used an evil doppelganger posing as him. And in the end, he was freed and saved the day with Asha.

[@umbrellaum]

Crazy that you made a way better plot then any of the "professionals" that worked on this movie

[@nerychristian]

Disney would never make a movie where the father is good and is able to teach a daughter wisdom about life.

[@michaellennerman7844]

"Anything you want you should get, and if anyone tries to stop you for amy reason, even if they're right, they're the villain." That is such an evil, immoral and twisted way to tell children to persue their dreams. It teaches children to be selfish in the worst way and i hate it.

[@mollymcmurtrie8037]

Well, I agree that you should pursue your own dreams. Not everybody deserves their wish granted. And what happens if it comes really bad even though you meant something good.

[@dandantsm6560]

Good thing this is not at all the message. Watch the movie instead of a twisted up version of a youtuber who calls a narcissistic character a "good person." (The actual message was that nobody should OWN your wish and lock it away, it is YOURS and you should own it and do what you can to make it come true by yourself)

[@novelreader1834]

​@@dandantsm6560 But why Asha have that privilege in the end? Doesn't that contrast the main point itself?

[@AlquimistEd]

@@dandantsm6560 What it actually says is that if you have the power to grant anyone their wish, then you should, otherwise you're a bad person.

[@imreallynoob8311]

​@@dandantsm6560I kindda get what the movie tries to imply To not let other people control your dreams or wants, to persuit it and to not be restrict by it I can see saying living under an authoritarian regime where people in the higher ups can dictates whatever they wants But my problem is, where is the lines? If you lived under a facist dictator, sure,youd fight for your freedom But would you consider laws, which were meant to keep the peace in society a bunch of opression too? Hiw far would you go for this "free will" If the law says you cant murder other people, but you have a desire to do so, are they wrong to stop you and restrict your action? And in the end when Asha became the wish granter herself, it made her a hypocrite, unless shes willing to give everyone a wish that would plunder the kindom into rubble anyways Imagine emo kids comes to her and wishes everyone die lmao

[@ASpooneyBard]

"I do all this work and live with so much stress while everyone else benefits. I just want some respect, and maybe occasionally a reward, for all I do." If you boil it down, the "villain" in this movie has the same motivation as Cinderella. We really have come full circle.

[@katieg.9235]

I was going to say, the villain song sounds like how every parent feels a good bit of the time. 😅

[@number3766]

That isn't a villain song. Simply a guardian being fired from his post.

[@bumblebeeproductions1673]

Does that mean that if Cinderella was modern she would be a villain?

[@lightborn9071]

@@bumblebeeproductions1673 Yes, and a man as well.

[@MSpotatoes]

​@bumblebeeproductions1673 if Cinderella says it, "that means it is not illegal"

[@cyruslupercal9493]

"Be careful what you wish for" is also complemented by "just because you can doesn't mean you should" and the king knows this. He could grand any wish, but knows he should not do that.

[@aiiiia9971]

Honestly that shows excellent self control and moral judgement on his part. Qualities Asha seems to lack

[@Aeternum_Zephyria]

And it seems like the only thing going for Asha was just the fact that she got lucky and got a powerful force of nature to give herself an advantage. Guess that's another lesson, it doesn't matter if whatever you're doing is right or wrong, if you have power (ethical or unethical), you can do anything.

[@Mysterious-Night]

@@aiiiia9971i don't even understand why Asha want he grandfather's wish granted tbh 😂 he's not a likable character

[@aiiiia9971]

@@Mysterious-Night The writer's also completely missed a perfect opportunity to have the grandfather's wish be granted *through* Asha He wanted to "inspire the younger generation", so if/since he "inspired her" that means he already succeeded without getting the wish back from the king. It was as if they were going for a different theme and just forgot halfway into the movie making the ending meaningless

[@DarkMark-cf1ec]

"b-b-b-but, you whight wingers don't get it! He takes the peoples souls!" Only a part, and even then they live to be quite old there without Asha or whatever seeming to need to cure it.

[@spicynoodles2742]

It would be more interesting if the movie put the protagonist as the villain by accident, ruining everything because of the wishes of the people and the one who seemed like a villain at first, the king, ends up being the hero and has to clean up her mess, but instead the poor guy ends up trapped in a mirror. It still a bit cliché, but at least the story's moral is more clear.

[@chronoshin8597]

Your morals are outdated and not progressive. Disney

[@aplaowattanakul7760]

Can't, diverse women can do no wrong

[@fandenovelas777]

Few entretaiment products have enough balls to make protagonist with villanous twist/foreshadowing few things i can think are Death Note and Sheep in the Big City.

[@thesardonicpig3835]

I mean. I haven't seen the film yet, but from what the video described, his "completely evil" personality in the second half isn't even his own personality, it belongs to whatever entity is possessing him. So doesn't Magnifico's whole villainy come down to his making a rash, egotistical decision in a moment of heightened emotions? It's probably handled too badly to be called that, but it sounds like the same principle that applies to almost all famous Spiderman villains.

[@WildArmACF]

​@@thesardonicpig3835his crime is to be a responcible man who says no.

[@Yugito-Animation]

Am I the only one who think that King Magnifico is strangely similar to the generous king? The fable of a king who was giving his money to the people, until he go broke. And when he ask the people for help, they gave him the cold shoulder, and start blaming the king.

[@Definitely-aDuck]

A sad ending and a deep message, I like it.

[@yourshoulderdevil5229]

And that's the the thanks he gets.

[@ALUCARDTWILLIGHT]

Sad story, in alot of these stories with the heros journey alot of the times I seen the hero go through hell and high water for people who in the end just turn on them and I think to myself of this was the main character he'd have turned evil

[@MollyHJohns]

I learned a similar tale from the manga of Shin Chan where the king was a jewel and gold plated statue. A smol birb worked with the statue to help the needy until the very last jewels and gold plates were given out and then the statue lost its value in people's eyes and even the birb couldn't find rest due to wintertime (it couldn't follow its fellow birbs for migration so it stayed near the statue). Nobody appreciated the ugly statue and took it down, let alone recognising a generous little birb who dropped them the jewels and gold plates.

[@dragonfan8647]

​@@MollyHJohns That reminds me of _The Happy Prince_ by Oscar Wilde

[@gabrieldjatienza6971]

The 1992 Aladdin writers wisely placed limitations on wishes... To prevent misuse of such power. Magnifico also imposed same limitations. The movie got unlimited wishes and Disney is in a sorry mess.

[@vvitch-mist20]

You're right! I also think it reflects poorly on Asha bc she thought her grandfather's wish was some how more important than someone else's. She also then proceeds to get mad that the wish SOMEONE ELSE got wasn't good enough to her. I think giving tools to a seamstress is an excellent idea rather than giving her magic powers to poof clothing into existence. I'm a writer and it would be better if I got a quill to write rather than the ability to spawn in books instantly.

[@msmaria5039]

Yeah. It was a matter of fact and had Genie bound by the rules and granted weaknesses. Like confined spaces.

[@Brer_Rabbid]

I love how it perfectly reflects the state of mind of the people currently at Disney, and how they think they can do whatever they want and whoever disapproves of their ideals are horrible people and “Dinosaurs who will die off.”

[@camil3545]

Heck, just think about Jafar's (attempted) wish, making Jasmine fall in love with him. I wonder how many instances of that kind of wish is Asha going to be responsible for enabling...

[@L16htW4rr10r]

​@@vvitch-mist20I would love the ability to copy paste my thoughts/ideas to Google Docs and then I would have to rearrange it and edit some parts

[@hughmann706]

Just realized this movie also feeds into people's sense of entitlement. He doesn't have to grant ANY wishes at all. That fact that some wishes are getting granted or even have a chance at getting granted should be enough.

[@Theseekerofinfinite]

Well it’s exactly as he says in his song: he does so much for them completely freely and the thanks he gets is scorn and a literal coup.

[@realdragon]

@@Theseekerofinfinite I would be just happy to live there, seems like great place. I wouldn't even need my wishes to be granted

[@Auricalios]

​@@Theseekerofinfinite sounds realistic

[@rowantic6539]

A movie of its time i would say😂

[@Some_guy_passing_by]

He grants plenty of innocent harmless wishes, like that one kid wanting a tool to sew nice clothes for once . Imagine someone wishes to have an affair with a married person or wants another's money , commit war-crimes 😂😂

[@GoldenWolf248]

It would be a much better movie if Magnifico was actually a good guy and Asha actually learned a lesson and realized she was wrong.

[@CrazyManhog]

EXACTLY HE DIDNT DESERVE THAT PUNISHMENT

[@porkyminch1640]

@@CrazyManhog a movie without a true real villain wouldve been a really interesting take in todays world. too bad disney aint that smart.

[@SoJoever]

@@porkyminch1640tf you mean half the Disney movies in the past decade haven’t had a true villain, ie encanto

[@porkyminch1640]

@@SoJoever well yea but i wouldnt count that since theres not really any serious threats either

[@matheuscerqueira7952]

I think at some point the STAR was the villain, that's why the movie have two disconnected halves. Imagine the star starts giving wishes and feeds on the chaos, now the protagonist have to grow up in order to even start solving the issue

[@o2dyt]

Teaching children that hard work, ambition and voluntary association are evil, and believing all your wishes should be granted is good (even through stealing). I wonder who would benefit from such culture!?

[@Anima_Magnus]

The subject matter of r/EntitledPeople?

[@hiiambarney4489]

It's the lefts pipedream, on another note they are really just driving towards a cyberpunk - scenario future.

[@Madison-iw8ix]

And the fact is, you do have to sort of give up your own wishes when you grow up. It doesn't mean you don't try to achieve them, but you have to put them on the back burner when you, say get married and have children. When you have other people depending on you, you can't focus solely on yourself. (I'm not saying that you don't take care of yourself, and I'm not saying that you can't do things for yourself, either. There's a thing called nuance, and a lot of people nowadays can't understand it.)

[@myb701]

I guess all the people who got in Disney through nepotism and posting art on twitter finally got promoted to scriptwriters. This movie reeks of entitled people with lives filled with first world problems. Protagonist syndrome? check! "Everyone who disagrees with me is evil deep within"? check! "Everything I do is justified because deep down I'm good"? check! "Everyone I dislike deserves a fate worse than death"? check! "I deserve more than everyone else"? check!

[@KororaPenguin]

@@Madison-iw8ix I'm reminded of George Bailey, who gave up his dreams and as a result was exactly where he needed to be.

[@SpitshineSneakers]

The terrible irony is that out of all the Disney remakes where they rewrite the villain to be sympathetic, this is the only film where it’s actually warranted lmao.

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

They essentially spread the message that greed is good.

[@matthewmosier8439]

Well, this movie flopped like an atom bomb. We can be thankful for that

[@MouseGoat]

​@@nevaehhamilton3493 you Wonder why 🤔 Almost as if it was made by greedy money hungering business people, that only care for art that give them more money for high class drugs and sex 🎉party's on expensive yeards

[@TheRezro]

Cinderella also did good job. Generally the reason why Wicked musical work is because original story is extremely twisted and ironic. It is why comment showing villain as good guy did make sense. But that setup must be there. It is not that every villain is automatically a misguided good guy. Heroes also can be misguided.

[@roviize9425]

honestly… Imprisonment is crazyyyyy! 😭 he was practically mind-possessed when all the evil shit was happening

[@trentonhamilton645]

I sided more with The Villian because a vast majority of residents have unrealistic wishes that puts the kingdom at risk, plus the main character only sees the best of her people rather than looking at the consequential outcomes that'll affect them later in the future.

[@truthprevails4386]

risk is part of life. do you put your head in the sand as well?

[@trentonhamilton645]

@@truthprevails4386 Would you eat the sandcakes from Aqua Teen Hunger Force?

[@MasutaMJ]

A woman wanted to fly. How exactly wishing for that is evil or hurtful to anyone is reaching.

[@trentonhamilton645]

@@MasutaMJ It would rather come off as suspicious to hover above someone even at close proximity, besides you know the classic superhero quote: "With great power comes great responsibility."

[@MeJimi45]

​@@MasutaMJthis is butterfly theory. She wanted to fly like a bird. Her wish can go wrong. In this kingdom she would be know as one that had her wishes come true, but if she ever leaves kingdom she could have been kiled by hunters etc, or they could follow her and decide that whole kingdom is flawed and they need to kill everyone in it. If Magnifico also had seer powers this could explain why some of wishes he viewed as too dangerous but if not he probably needed to analyze all of the wishes and if it was not specific enough, he couldn't give it a shot

[@catgirl-jj8no]

This isn't even the first time Disney has put out a movie with horrible moral implications. Raya and the Last dragon shames the main character for having trust issues with the woman that betrayed her and has been her rivial since then. It's terrible

[@joeltimonen8268]

Yeah, and then the said rival is given *yet another* chance to work together for a common goal (eliminating the mist-enemies, whatever their name was) but instead she betrays the heroes for the sake of her own kingdom, and even ends up killing the last dragon (unintentionally, but still)... And in the end everyone is saved and everybody's happy and no one gets any consequences for anyone's actions. The ending took all the weight of the story that was built during the movie and threw it in the trash bin. In my opinion the movie isn't bad by any means, but it ends up just being very bland.

[@juliep1122]

Right, the message of Raya and the last dragon really bothered me. There is such a thing as discerning who to trust.

[@josiecroix]

Raya was also supposed to be a Southeast Asian princess, yet the entire movie has absolutely _nothing_ from real life Asia. Of all the material they could've used, they made up a fantasy race and culture and called it "Southeast Asian." It's just their way of adding another "race princess" to the roster even though she isn't remotely (realistically) Asian. There was absolutely no genuine effort implemented to accomplish realistic inclusivity, only inclusivity of a fake race inspired by a western fanfic viewpoint. The "Southeast Asian" voice actress was born and raised in America. And yes, even the message is stupid, I couldn't believe what I was watching when I first saw it. I'd watch Callimara's video on it as she is an Indonesian raised in Indonesia (aka, a _real_ Southeast Asian) and explains this fluently, if anyone is interested.

[@stinkymrsnow..............]

I was thinking the same thing. It’s such a shame how the first Disney film with a Southeast-Asian princess and now the first Disney film with a Afro-Hispanic princess both ended up being such a mess

[@Monochrome2004]

that movie still pisses me off cuz this had the chance to tackle two extremes with raya being too distrusting and the dragon whose name i dont remember being too trusting. both arent good and it couldve been then both learning from each other and meeting in the middle. they even started to do that when dragon almost killed cuz she was too trusting but it's like the movie forgot that entire series of events happened

[@Arsh.i.i.i.n]

Other points: -at the beginning of the movie Asha instantly asks for her grand father's wish to be granted as she gets the vibe she'll be the king's assistant and the king gets shocked saying people usually wait a bit before asking something of him. I felt terrible for him. Some perso shows up you decide to trust them and show them a place you invite very few people to and they instantly show that the only reason they came to you was to take advantage of you. It's like...even if you wanna be selfish give it a second! When she receives the normal reaction of him trying to "explain" why he can't do it instead of just saying no she instantly jumps to the conclusions that HE is selfish and evil! -second she sings some really bad song and a gains a magical song stronger than that of the king. WHICH HE GAINED BY STUDYING the art and learning and experiencing. Why? Coz she's pretty and the main character I guess. The good people who deserve to have their wishes come true don't try for it kids! It has to be effortlessly and magically given to you. The people who work hard on it have some evil motivations! -third: the only people who know the secret way to the king's study are people he trusts. One of them which happens to be the main character's friend just tells her where it is and how to get there. Coz we friends! In every aspect of life when someone entrusts you with a secret you don't just give it away coz someone asks you to and thinks they're entitled to it. -then there's the proof of the king's point when Asha's friend turns her in to have his wish granted: he becomes the most loyal guard to the king and immediately turns in all the other people who were involved even though he normally wouldn't do so if his wish wasn't granted. A wish the king had decided was too dangerous to grant even though it would benefit him. And no one seems to see that. -then the queen is moved by some selfish children and calls her husband evil like: I loved him so I didn't see how evil he is!! Even though he technically only lost it after using dark magic ....give this man some credit. Even his family doesn't give him anything for all he's done for so many people for such a long time! -and in the end: Sasha who claimed the king was evil for deciding which wishes were good and which were bad gets to decide which wishes are good and which are bad! In the kingdom HE built! ... And I don't even remember why the rest of the people turned against the king...just goes to show he had been serving greedy a**holes all this time... Random note: I watched the movies when seeing the sketch for this video but didn't expect the video to be actually making this point. Now I feel happy!

[@hoppa_2184]

Agreed. His fall to dark magic was tragic, but the queen just treated him like she did never love him after it was over. In all honesty, Asha fulfilling wishes and then seeing that "Be careful what you wish for." is a true statement would make for a much better movie. Let our king here be the hero! xD Asha fucks up and the king has to help to fix it. He can still be wrong about something. For example, he can give the wishes he isn't granting back and encourage people to pursue them on their own, while giving magical support to those who need it. Work for the wishes and be careful what you wish for as morals of the story would fit nicely.

[@DistantKingdom]

just realized the grandpa is a self insert of the Disney franchise. what's chilling is Disney is desperately trying to fulfill it's wish to "inspire the next generation" in all the wrong ways, as you've pointed out, which is exactly what Magnifico's warning was about

[@canibezeroun1988]

100 years old. Trying to challenge God. Sure sounds like then

[@Akantorz]

Damn, didn't expect to see you here man, how's pokemon going?

[@casusolivas]

Ha! you are right the granpa is disney! 🤣... the wish "i want to inspire the next generation to become communist and to invert all morals and virtues"

[@firenze6478]

Omg, its distantkingdom!

[@TheNarrator6020]

​@@casusolivasa company promoting communism you say? Thatd be against their own interests to do.

[@mikecohen7716]

An interesting twist might have been for Asha to accidentally cause herself to start fading from existence, because it turns somebody's wish was to have married one of her parents... 30 years ago, when they were 18. Now she has to ungrant the wishes quickly to save her own life, so she runs to the palace... but the palace is full of people fighting, because 200 or so people all wished to be the King, and Magnifico is no where to be seen... Oh and it's somehow both snowing because someone wished it would always be Christmas and hot and sunny out because someone wished it would always be Summer...

[@jazz_bass_lick]

If only Disney could write like that... as a Back to the Future fan, I would totally watch a movie with this plot:)

[@unicorn_xxx3424]

that would've been so cool!!! And Asha could've gotten more development so it's a win win

[@projectTyrasa]

Now That woulda been a Good Movie right there!

[@mohamadafifazizizaidi5625]

That would be hilariously chaotic and not boring. Much, much better storyline than the one we got.

[@KateCat420]

This is the movie we deserved - we were SO robbed

[@bloodmooncomics2249]

Raya the Last Dragon had the worst moral of the story "No matter how much people betray your trust, you keep trusting them no matter what because one time it might work". I hated that moral of the story so much. Do not teach kids to allow people to betray them and they should keep allowing other to betray them because one time they might do something good.

[@charlesatanasio]

Well, to be fair, that is exactly the kind of moral a communist company like disney would push...

[@Markus2E5I6]

Isn't Raya Disney so it makes sense...of course the company that people are starting to get annoyed by will promote the message of "keep trusting others no matter what" they want their audience to keep trusting them so they spend money going to watch the movie so Disney can keep getting money.

[@Mouse_Metal]

It seems like the modern movies are written by narcissists as their power fantasies. Always forgiving victim is the supply of their dreams.

[@ElliotKeaton]

Star Wars Episode VIII had the lesson that it's morally wrong to question authority no matter what.

[@AranaCeleste]

Disney has to push the gro0mer message somehow.

[@Madison-iw8ix]

So Magnifico was a man born to a humble family who built up a kingdom designed to make his people happy. .... Did they really turn WALT DISNEY into the VILLAIN of DISNEY'S 100 year anniversary movie?!?!

[@vitordarosa-ke3oy]

Those jerks!

[@TheSurvivor637]

That’s incredible ironic, and very saddening.

[@theghost4593]

i mean walt disney also has his skeletons in the closet that I think most people wouldn't be happy with but yes

[@BlinkTvvice]

Fr 😭

[@heitoraubinzanettimion3426]

not sure why it matters that hes a capitalist, considering its the most successful thing countries have to this day.@@Nopeasaurus

[@Bopperann]

The sheer chaos of unfiltered children’s wishes would be its own kind of hell.

[@leahnzastrzelecki5217]

Fairly Odd Parents!

[@Bopperann]

@@leahnzastrzelecki5217 They had "Da Rules" at least.

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

“I wish that gravity was reversed” Everyone, everything, everywhere: “AAAAAAAAAAAA”

[@julianespeche5148]

and downfall..

[@Khann_2102]

unfortunately lots of people don't have the capacity to think about the consequences

[@Tjnovakart]

I had a similar issue with Ralph breaks the internet- Vanellope left all of her friends and everything she worked for to go off on some whim to be in a “cooler” game. It could’ve been a story about how the grass isn’t always greener on the other side, and sometimes the things you want aren’t right for you. But instead, the message we ended up with was to follow every slight desire you have, even if it hurts those around you. EDIT: The reason why the wishes in The Little Mermaid and Pinocchio worked was because there were strings attached. It was Ariel and Pinocchio’s acts of bravery and selflessness in times of peril that allowed them to truly get their happy ending.

[@davidwholly5209]

That ending of "Ralph Breaks The Internet" always bugged me, but I couldn't put into words why it did. I just knew that the ending was "wrong". This is a good takeaway.

[@masterharuka]

IDK about Ralph, but yeah, I agree, Little Mermaid and Pinocchio isn't about whims, it is about growing up, understanding the world, having your own experience. Ariel's "I want more" isn't about trinkets or having fun, it is about ending her sheltered life, about genuine fascination with others. Pinocchio has a harsh coming-of-age story in its core.

[@xhagast]

"When You Wish Upon a Star" is one of the most HORRIFYING songs ever. Just listen to the lyrics. Sheer lunatic delusion.

[@Sorain1]

@@xhagast "Makes no difference who you are." Hi, I'm Jafar and I want to be the most powerful sorcerer in history!

[@Mysterious-Night]

@@Sorain1most people aren't like Jafar

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

You know it's bad when the writers need to resort to the evil corruption magic to make their villain a villain because they know deep down their hero is in the wrong and their strawman villain has a great point. And I love how Shrek has already satirically destroyed this particular batch of Disney slop a year before it even hit theaters.

[@grim_2000]

You mean Puss in Boots 2?

[@AlexiusScholius]

​@@grim_2000 I think it is what they mean. I mean, Jack Horner's motive is basically what Asha fights for, just slightly less chaotic and much easier to fix. His wish is "I get all the magic in the world and nobody else gets any", and her wish would be "everybody has all the magic in the world". With his wish, one only needs to defeat him to fix everything, with her wish it is guaranteed apocalypse whenever the first maniac wishes for it.

[@shroomer3867]

Hey, maybe they could've gone with that, where the main character gets to the palace to ask him why he didn't grant her grandpa's wish, she understands it, but on the way out notices some evil corruption magic shining under a door or something and investigates, thus the king, no matter how good he is, becomes the antagonist because he cannot let anyone else know that he is using that magic. And maybe the story could've been about using a specific wish to free the king or something like that. Maybe someone wished for the kingdom to be free of evil and thus they use the wish and the evil magic is gone out of the king's system, and now the main character becomes the new queen of the land because she saved him and he goes into retirement or something. Damn, this could've been good but Disney just had to screw it up didn't they?

[@ultimatecultchaos]

Chaos

[@KororaPenguin]

If George Bailey from _It's a Wonderful Life_ were real, _Wish_ would have him spinning in his grave. Bailey gave up on many of his dreams, and as a result was where he needed to be to stop Bedford Falls from going to Hell in a handbasket.

[@elbolainas4174]

There's a really good video (in spanish tho) explaining how Tiana from the princess and the frog is the exact opposite of Aisha. She has a wish but decides to go the hard way to accomplish it. The video even suggests she could have asked her friend's rich father for a loan but refuses to so she can pride herself on the fruits of her labor. Even when she learned about the "wish upon a star" thing her father teaches her that the star can show her the path but it's upon her to make her dreams come true. And in the climax of the movie the voodoo sorcerer offers to make it real but she refuses to and even GIVES UP on her wish because she learned that it's not worth it if you can't be with your loved ones. Meanwhile Aisha can't wait for her wish to be granted just because she says so, does nothing to be worthy of it nor works to make it real by herself, doesn't care about the consequences of her actions/decisions and when someone says NO to her, then that person is evil.

[@meeb_consumer]

This is modern self-indulgence incarnate in a movie and it's scary. The "villain" is a hard worker, tragedy-struck, who wants to make the world a better place.

[@spambot_gpt7]

And the "hero" is tha avatar of Chaos Undivided

[@meeb_consumer]

@@spambot_gpt7 "GIMME MORE! I don't CARE what will happen to other people! If they don't just yield to their desires then they don't deserve anything at all! Now I need that instant gratification, NOW!!"

[@thewonderfullymadejaraid7015]

@@spambot_gpt7 "I was mortal once. A brat then, a brat now".

[@CHF555]

Although I hate to say it, this is corporatized Disney, making the world a better place doesn't add money to the pockets.

[@JohnDoe-og2bt]

​@@CHF555I think a message that activism isn't always good by default is something kids and teens need

[@hesterfunhart]

Also something to note about Asha. It's constantly told to the watchers that she's "so selfless" and yet when it's almost her turn to get her wish(it's stated in the movie it's almost her birthday) she goes all around to get a job interview with the king, not because she genuinely wants to help him and serve him so the kingdom stays prosperous, but to get an extra wish on top of her upcoming birthday wish so she doesn't have to sacrifice her own wish in order to get her grandfather's wish granted. That's not "selfless" that's opportunistic

[@axelolord]

So wait... she has a chance to actually be selfless and give up something from herself for someone. And then... they just make her NOT do that. The writers really should learn to code.

[@U-PN-BI-IBW]

@@axelolordnah its bc shes a girlboss, right? so therefore shes incapable of wrong

[@MaximillianRobesphere]

@@axelolordsomething something blue curtains

[@bluyu]

​@@axelolord Make them learn C++. Beat the logic into their brains lol

[@TyrianHaze]

@@axelolord Thousands of coding jobs are being replaced by AI. They gonna have to learn how to install solar panels.

[@shadowbeast9671]

It really feels like Asha is the real villain. Especially since she seek out apprenticeship for personal reasons of having her grandfather's wish granted. That technically makes her power hungry.

[@CrazyManhog]

Also explains the revenge song is more evil then Magnificos

[@CleverGirlAAH]

ScreenRant: Asha feels like the first activist Disney heroine that we get to see. Can you talk about incorporating that into the script and why you wanted it in this movie? Jennifer Lee: Yeah. I love that a couple of people have brought that up about her. And I love what folks see in her. The thing that I think it is focusing in that critical moment in your life. You're a teenager, you got your friends, maybe you're going to get the apprenticeship. It's all very comfortable. The philosophy of the world feels okay. And then you uncover a really hard truth about the world. The hard truth about the world they're talking about? -- You can't get everything you want for free, or just because you really want it...

[@B.Cypher]

Yeah i mean we could’ve have a good movie if Disney didn’t immediately character assassinate him i mean they literally have a super kind backstory and then immediately does a 180

[@shadowbeast9671]

@@B.Cypher The movie probably would've been good if Disney didn't change the plot and kept it about what it originally was suppose to be. The King was suppose to be like Disney's classic villains, and yet they gave him this backstory that practically justifies his paranoia, add in that the citizens live in his kingdom rent free and hands out a free wish every month, he was anything but a villain.

[@Mamothrept]

Asha lives in a wealthy, beautiful kingdom full of happy smiling people. Then sings a whole song about how she shouldn't have to settle for that. Epitome of ungrateful greed. She goes on to break the kingdom apart, destroys the marriage between the kindle and queen, and then has to try putting it back together.

[@JushuaProvido]

When a movie has united both Christians and Atheists in condemning its message, you know something's gone horribly wrong...

[@zekolonon]

The villain isn’t a villain, he’s having a midlife crisis.

[@AshCandy-bp3nw]

fr

[@moka1251]

and he's HOT

[@JohnSmith-ox3gy]

@@moka1251 Got that Khadgar rizz frfr.

[@istandwithiran]

For real

[@BestieFun-ow1ko]

No he tried to kill Kayla

[@SoloRenegade]

this movie just highlights how immature Disney's writers are. they literally still think like a child and thus wrote this story like a spoiled child that doesn't understand why adults don't simply let kids do whatever they want.

[@CrazyManhog]

In the lines though he said "your young you don't know anything better"

[@williamzou8833]

Millenials writers that are suffering from Protagonist syndrome and autocratic multi-billion companies that are determined to change societal norms to their likings. Yeah, this TOTALLY won't go wrong.

[@SoloRenegade]

@@CrazyManhog but isn't that the irony? The "villain" is really just a good parent teaching valuable life lessons. And when good parents are the villain, society is in trouble. The irony is the people writing this don't understand the law of unintended consequences. These people write movie after movie, never realizing they keep making movies that send the opposite message they intended. Starship Troopers Barbie Wish etc. many such stories were made with teh intention of claiming, "look how bad society is, look at how evil capitalism is, patriarchy, etc.", even thought they ironically end up making a story that proves the opposite. And they never figure it out.

[@lordkardok666]

Pretty sure an AI wrote the movie.

[@SoloRenegade]

@@lordkardok666 it sure feels like that. but regardless, humans curated and approved the AI script.

[@ReaderViaNil]

Ok, here is a wild thought: what if the reason for the two sides of the story is that the wish the original protagonist got granted directly turned the king evil? Like "i wish everyone could see the king for the evil i think he is" or something like that, turning the king into the flat evil parody that a 17 year old angsty girl thinks he is, and the rest of the events unfold. That would make the king into an unwilling villain, the actual message being that if you try hard to find evil to justify your "fight" you might just turn the good into bad. I can see this being the original story and then this key detail being cut and then something like ai used by a single person to fill in the gaps of removing that message.

[@lanceducusin4696]

that plot is way too smart for disney writers to write

[@sovietunion7643]

that is actually a really good message, especially in the modern day where people are called racist or sexist at the most minor things because they disagreed with a political belief. telling people not to create a villian of a person who could be a friend would be a really good message honestly

[@Freekymoho]

Not sure that would fly with the agenda

[@adamjames8854]

Ngl this actually sounds kind of genius, why didn't they do this lmao

[@DonManuelConLeonsJacket]

Like from a misguided, brat's pov.

[@redking36]

I didn’t watch the movie, but isn’t his “villain song” just describing him as a parent? Refusing the wish because it’s not a good idea also sounds like a judgment call by a parent. I think the people who made the movie just don’t like their parents.

[@aynohalopesdealmeida9932]

I think is because Disney is trying to appeal as much as possible to kids, so possibly they did that so children can feel better think they SHOULD get what they want an as such like the movie more (Idk if I wrote that right I'm spanish)

[@catastoic]

My 4 yo son didn't like it because he was rooting for Magnifico, so was I, even my wife didn't like it and said Magnifico didn't do anything bad beside looking good and being a kings. Even Kings wife forsaken him immedietly. This animation seems like more of a hidden message for the teenagers that can think, than a pure childrens cartoon.

[@simonedeluna7397]

Magnifico is a tragic hero he had a reason that he shouldn't grant everyone's wish so the world can be balanced and asha wanted everyone's wish to be granted and that would be chaos

[@byronrush9802]

​@@simonedeluna7397exactly and then she's not punished for it while the king loses everything oh I can't have my way your wishes may have consequences but who cares I want everybody to have their wishes regardless Even if they wish for someone to be killed just think about it what if Hitler could have made a wish to kill all the Jews if everybody gets their wishes granted you can start and end of war anytime you wanted too was little to no consequences unless someone else makes a wish to wipe out your nation

[@neh1234]

Says a lot about how in your face the message of this movie is that your son, a kid of the age gap this movie was made to dupe, didn't fall for it. Congratulations, you raised him well enough for him to understand good and evil.

[@kikyomoon2996]

Hidden message it's about are heavenly father who lives why don't grant everyone wishes still target God

[@Yesica1993]

Why would you take a 4 year old to this?!

[@teanbooks9539]

Famous Examples of Why granting ALL wishes is a VERY BAD idea. 1. Bruce Almighty 2. Fairy Odd Parents 3. Five Children and It 4. Charlie and Chocolate Factory. 5. Midas’s Gold Touch ETC.

[@Heretowatchvideos123]

6. The chocolate touch

[@markusgorelli5278]

7. The Lottery Changed My Life

[@jackall-trades6149]

Sheesh, for No. 2, that was the entire premise of every episode

[@ClaudetteVioletta]

8. Aladdin

[@thatrandomvsdebator]

9.) Wonder Woman 1984

[@soldio4143]

In Disney's "Aladdin 2: Return of Jaffar" it took 10 _seconds_ to express the dangers of wishes; when Abis Mal wishes for a famous sunken treasure.

[@Lord.Mind_Flayer]

Or wishmaster where every wish leads to bad things because the villain uses there vaguenes against them

[@eeyorehaferbock7870]

I thought The Return of Jafar was the third movie?

[@MurdokEXTRA]

@@eeyorehaferbock7870 Return of Jafar was the second one. The King of thieves was third.

[@alexnovak2669]

There was a time when I thought Return of Jaffar was a meh movie. Now I miss movies like that.

[@cartooncritique6625]

I loved the smug look on Jafar's face when he used Abis Mal's wish against him. 😄

[@briantyler3474]

"Yes, you wish and you dream with all your little heart. But you remember, Tiana, that old star can only take you part of the way. You got to help him with some hard work of your own. And then... Yeah, you can do anything you set your mind to." -James, The Princess and the Frog

[@rwinger2481]

Tiana and Ariel are some of John Musker and Ron Clements’ best characters that they created. It is sad that the top brass don’t value these important lessons. These are stories that connect with audiences and they want to take it away from us in favor of teaching lessons that promote the current narrative rather than creating something timeless that will be seen decades from now.

[@kendrajade6688]

And that wasn't even the moral of the movie! The moral was not to lose sight of what's really important, your loved ones.

[@briantyler3474]

@@kendrajade6688 And Asha ultimately didn’t. Did she?

[@kendrajade6688]

@@briantyler3474 Uh I guess not if only by nature of getting infinite powers and never having to sacrifice anything to help others.

[@peterjunrielmilana8532]

Puss in Boots 2 wrote a better moral about granting wishes. Is Dreamworks improving better than Disney?

[@LethalOwl]

Dreamworks have been better than Disney since day 1 when it comes to messaging and even film-making in general.

[@DayaMcCarthy]

Dreamworks always been better 🌜

[@Anon1gh3]

@@LethalOwl No early disney was better. Didn't have Bob Iger and the like.

[@ununun9995]

​@@Anon1gh3 how early?

[@Anon1gh3]

@@ununun9995 pre-Pocahontas at least.

[@aethefledladyofmercia9572]

Wow. That villain song has the exact same message as "You're Welcome" in Moana. Except Maui was a hero.

[@Simipourfangirl]

If Moana was written now, Maui would have been the villain.

[@Faux_Sunlight]

@@Simipourfangirl I mean, Maui sort of was already a villain. The thing that makes him great is that he genuinely works to fix what he wronged. As much as I like encanto, I believe that Moana was Disney’s last true masterpiece before the studio started decaying.

[@Amanoob105]

So it seems we're now living in a world where Disney's writing has gotten so bad that in trying to write a classic "hero vs villain" story they did it so badly that they, by accident and with no self awareness of the result, made the hero look like the villain and the villain look like the hero. Just. Wow.

[@mentalist7772]

Apparently the writers who originally wrote the 'Wish' concept wanted the movies premise to be a prequal to the Disney movies but also be an a 'be careful what you wish for' movie where the MC would tru to grant all wishes and disaster would insure then the higher ups at Disneu decided to change it into this mess.

[@goodwife6284]

It's good writing, they just accidentally switched the characters names in the script

[@KororaPenguin]

Magnifico comes across as a hero who makes a tragic mistake.

[@kimithepumpkin]

"either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain" has whole new meaning with this

[@timothyn4699]

that's basically wokeleftdemfems. They think they are the heroes for saying nice things, claiming tolerance, whilst name calling anyone who tries to discuss an opinion outside their own. Disney has been pushing wk agenda for awhile, so it doesn't surprise me

[@saltycat662]

This is exactly how my husband and I felt when we watched the movie. Magnifico was actually right then he suddenly became power obsessed and narcissistic. Made no sense especially when Asha was actually in the wrong. It is a dangerous message to children. Making them believe that they are entitled to all of their desires regardless of consequence.

[@jeffreymodesitt3345]

I feel like in an earlier draft (probably after they dropped the Starboy and villain couple plot because this movie went through development hell) it was probably intended for him to be a more sympathetic figure, like maybe he granted the wish of someone evil without realizing the consequences it would hold and is over correcting as a result, but then midway through production they realized that they made their heroes so unlikable that people might actually root for him so they dialed the evil up to 11

[@michaeliv284]

I actually have a theory; what if Asha wishing on Star made Magnifico evil?

[@magdam1508]

This movie never once showed the society of Rosas. Rosas is shown as an amazing, happpy place. And suddenly Magnifico is the villain? BUT WHO DID HE EVER HURT? We've never once seen him actually bring harm to his people unless they started a revolution

[@kielhawkins9529]

An there didn't appear to be much of a reason to start a revolution.

[@magdam1508]

@@kielhawkins9529 This, we had one sleepy teenager. That was literally the only person who suffered. They made a deal, they knew what's going to happen, they never once thought about revolution! But suddenly, Asha's here, guess we'll throw away all we stood for our whole lives, even tho we haven't been hurt!

[@AStoryteller-for-fun]

​@@magdam1508They just went with it. I mean, there life's were very much great.

[@Uapa500]

And he's still going to be Sleepy, after all, since he's based on that character, no matter if his wish his with him or not.

[@darius5097]

I wanted to add about the wishes: the film portrayed Asha's friend as a traitor when Magnifico granted his wish of becoming the best knight in the kingdom, but the problem is, that wish was made before anyone saw Magnifico as "the bad guy". When her friend made that wish he believed he will do good for the kingdom and since wishes cannot be changed, it shouldn't be viewed as betrayal, but on the contrary it makes his a victim of the new circumstances... Although the circumstances are stupid, but it's a different story. In other words, there is no logic behind characters actions and there is little to no motivation. It's sad because the premise is good but the execution is horrible and morally wrong.

[@LpsDreamsStarsandMoons]

And this is why I watch veggie tales and barbie princess movies😅

[@ethanhinton4549]

@@LpsDreamsStarsandMoons Old Veggietales was the stuff, man.

[@LpsDreamsStarsandMoons]

@@ethanhinton4549 True beans my dude

[@bonogiamboni4830]

@@LpsDreamsStarsandMoons weed eater.

[@feelstora3]

@@LpsDreamsStarsandMoons The older Barbie classic movies when they still adapted fairytales *-*. These and disney classics

[@elitegamer9310]

It's so ironic that this movie was meant to be a celebration of Disney's 100th Anniversary, but rather than honor the studio's legacy, it practically sums up everything wrong about modern Disney. Becoming another nail in the coffin for modern entertainment.

[@orrorsaness5942]

Amen! Watch my series, The Pensuke Files instead! 😉 It goes against Woke Disney!

[@zacharymcgovern5434]

I heard a theory that the king became evil because the main character got her wish granted, and her hearts wish was to be the hero of the story and take down the evil king. Hence she was the real villain of the story.

[@kingorange7739]

OMG that would be truly something.

[@michaeliv284]

I actually realised that myself!

[@funnyblog100]

I think it would be fun if Magnifico decided to just show Asha the terrible wishes people made to prove a point about why not all wishes should be granted. "I'll give you a few examples a guy I saw frequenting the local gambling den wished for wealth. Why would I give someone with a gambling addiction a fortune just so they could gamble it all away the next day? Even a wish like true love would be problematic because I can't just manufacture love or force someone to fall in love with you! It's not true love if I just force it to happen because you wished for it! That's not how love works! It takes effort!

[@Simipourfangirl]

That would be a climax moment there. I could just imagine them having a heated argument and then magnifico shows asha every single wish he deemed problematic and the outcome of each one.

[@HawkeyeVoid]

It’s Disney in 2023, asking for nuance is too much for them😂

[@willbrgamer5137]

And people should have the freedom to chose who they love, not be forced to love someone because that someone wished so, your rights end where the other person's rights start.

[@funnyblog100]

@@Simipourfangirl I mean Asha’s grandfather inspired her to seek Magnifico out so his wish to inspire the younger generation was already granted. Making her entire quest pointless.

[@Simipourfangirl]

@@funnyblog100 that too.

[@KimberlyByrdV]

Didn’t we get a movie, Monsters University, where we touched on the fact that sometimes you need to adjust your dream because it sometimes doesn’t work? I think it’s healthy, and realistic to share stories where sometimes we don’t get or NEED what we want.

[@ItsChevnotJeff]

Yeah, that movie still sticks with me Even if you don't get what you want, doesn't mean you won't be happy in the long run Mike mever got to be a scare, but he became Sully's door taker and partner, the next best thing in the field he worked so hard for

[@Drew1365]

It's called "A Boy Named Charlie Brown" and it's even more subversive today than when it was originally made. "Well, I can understand how you feel. You worked hard, studying for the spelling bee, and I suppose you feel you let everyone down, and you made a fool of yourself and everything. But did you notice something, Charlie Brown? The world didn't come to an end."

[@l.n.3372]

​@@ItsChevnotJeff Another reason why monsters university works is because of the inherent premise: it's a prequel. The audience already knows that Mike and Sully will eventually achieve greatness. We know that they're happy in the future. We know that Mike is the manager and Sully is the scare monster. Monsters university is a perfect prequel because it shows how the characters reached the point they did in the original film. We learn that Mike originally wanted to scare, he couldn't, he found a new role and purpose, and eventually in the future, he changed it to comedy, which he excelled at. It's a great concept because we already know that Mike finds happiness and success in the end.

[@pablo17667140]

"share stories where sometimes we don’t get or NEED what we want." basicaly puss in bots the last wish

[@KimberlyByrdV]

Dude YES I LOVE that movie! @@pablo17667140

[@Paxchi]

Asha at the start of the movie: "It's wrong for one person to decide whose wishes get granted." Asha at the end of the movie: "But it's okay when I do it."

[@whothoughthandleswereagoodidea]

right in line with leftist doctrine

[@whothoughthandleswereagoodidea]

@HazelEpicFunny enemies? Complain? I was celebrating, this is exactly what we need more of. Maybe you need help if you react so violently to something like that

[@gene8447]

​...no, you're clearly attacking. Gaslighting won't change that.

[@sonicthehedgehog989]

​I totally agree with you. Exactly what leftists keep preaching.​@@whothoughthandleswereagoodidea

[@snperkiller1054]

@@whothoughthandleswereagoodidea this is not "leftist doctrine" dude, its "entitled asshole doctrine" and you usually find those on both extremes of the political spectrum, sadly each side seems to latch on the worst of the other and use it to discredit the entire ideology.

[@larryrottenberk7771]

Main character: Who are you to say what wishes should be granted? The King: I'm the guy who grants said wishes. My body, my power, my choice. Have you never heard to be careful what you wish for? I'm gonna have to agree with the King here. Some peoples wishes are probably evil, some will lead down a path of anger, violence, envy, and manipulation.

[@michaeliv284]

Or they're just stupid. I mean, there's nothing bad about wanting to fly, but if you end up in a tropical storm...

[@nuhscott9058]

​@@michaeliv284 flying like superman is superman dangerous as it's hard to breath the higher you go plus the change in pressure could lead to death (not to mention the large chance of crashing into something). But, in that point, this is one of the things the movie uses to out the argument in asha's favor (by ignoring nuances and never showing a bad wish that would prove magnifico's side of the argument)

[@liamelgamer2858]

​@@nuhscott9058and no matter how you look at It,a random person being giving the ability to fly Is NOT good,let's say for a moment that the wish was granted and the woman could fly,then what? Does the wish only makes her able to fly and she Is still the same otherwise or does the wish makes her able to fly with all the necessary things to do so? Does this mean the woman would be able to resist lower tempetures and resist being able to fly at High speeds?

[@nuhscott9058]

@@liamelgamer2858 yeah, if she was just given the ability to fly, she'd die real quick from either crashing, lack of oxygen at great heights, or the extreme temperatures

[@liamelgamer2858]

@@nuhscott9058 and If she can actually fly…then that means she Is dummy resistant and strong,which may lead to a Homelander situation

[@legionarmatay4399]

"Oh the ACTUAL RULER OF THE KINGDOM is actually selecting wishes to make sure that those that get granted are beneficial NOT FOR HIM BUT FOR EVERYBODY? Damn he MUST be evil, what kind of king should have the authority to decide what's the best way to ensure prosperity in HIS kingdom?" Oh wait, that's exactly what a king doea. I literally drew this conclusion based on the trailer alone, I'm so glad that I didn't waste my time watching this movie

[@Theseekerofinfinite]

Well you see, the people at Disney are all spoiled brats. If there’s anything they hate, it’s anyone doing better than them, or doing good for anyone that is not them. This movie is nothing but wish fulfillment (heh) of taking someone’s prosperity for one’s self for no other reason than they are prosperous.

[@yourshoulderdevil5229]

​@@TheseekerofinfiniteNo, the executives at Disney are spoiled brats. Most of the people on the lower levels are just trying to use their abilities to create, but the people in top are entitled and completely out of touch. They're the ones who "need" their wishes granted.

[@TechLeafRanger]

​@@yourshoulderdevil5229Well except then they hire a bunch of people who march lockstep with them, to try and ensure they get what they want. It's not just a select few at the top *coughKennedy*, but then the story groups and writers, the directors, the publishers, HR, all kinds of groups are infiltrated and filled with their similar thinking sycophants. So that way they have absolute control and an environment that doesn't hurt their precious feelings.

[@dandantsm6560]

"his kingdom" You talk as if the king owns the people in it, which is probably exactly what he thinks. This is a complete lie about of Asha's motivation against the king. Asha did not think it was right of him to take people's wishes, and only by his own neurotic judgement decide who gets to even HAVE a wish *at all* and who deserves to get it granted. He manipulates people to hand over their life's wishes to him to then act like he owns their wishes and decide who even gets to have one. He could give them back, as Asha pointed it out, because most of them were harmless, and if it was actually really dangerous then he could keep it locked. But no, he is not at all regulated when it comes to any of that, he is neurotic and deeply narcissistic, he only thinks of himself the entire movie, he can't even stop talking about himself to praise his wife. HE. IS. THE. VILLAIN. And it's not because he didn't grant every wish.

[@TechLeafRanger]

@@dandantsm6560 .....*Slowly face palms* That is exactly how an actual monarchy works. Not a parliament or constiutional monarchy, but a good old fashion monarchy. The King or Queen is the supreme authority of the land. They own the people within that land. Because it is their job to oversee the well being of the kingdom and the people within it. So everyone who is within that kingdom IS SUBSERVIENT TO THE MONARCH. The King built that kingdom from scratch. The people came to live there on HIS land, using HIS resources, looking to HIM for guidance and leadership. Therefore....yes. He essentially owns them. Literally how a monarchy works. As for the second part of your argument here...well...let's see here. On the one hand we have a king with the power to do something that he is, in no way, obligated to actually do anything with, and yet he attempts to generously, but responsibly, use that power for his people. Instead of granting wishes willy-nilly, or even giving them exactly what they ask for, he grants the wishes of those whose wishes are practical and not potentially harmful, and he does so in a way that still relies on them to put in effort and hard work, ensuring they don't just become lazy and reliant on magic to get what they want. VERSUS An 18 year old girl who literally has no experience being responsible for anything more then a goat, who tries to take the easy way out in getting her grandfather's wish granted, instead of simply using her wish to get her grandfather's wish granted (Thus proving she actually loves him by sacrificing of herself to benefit him), who then decides she needs to overthrow an entire monarchy that has kept the people happy and prosperous not because of anything he does actually being harmful or oppressive to the people's happiness and ability to live comfortably but because she thinks he's wrong. Because he doesn't do things the way she thinks they should be done. Oh, and to really point out the hypocrisy of your argument, she'll end up with the same power he did AND WITH NO ONE TO OVERSEE OR REGULATE HER. And yet we're told that is a good thing, as compared to how bad and evil it is for the king to not have anyone controlling or regulating what he does simply because he doesn't do things the way Asha thinks they should be done. So between the two...no. The ignorant activist rushing around demanding things be done the way they think it should be done, with no understanding of the consequences of their actions, resulting in essentially the government being overthrown and then them doing the very thing they blasted the government for doing is far more the villain then the guy being a responsible monarch who only turned evil because the plot demanded it.

[@mjbull5156]

The "villain song" lyrics sounds like a parent fed up with an ungrateful teenager.

[@deltamachine343]

Definitely these are the directors and story writers putting their parents as villains. I have no proof but have no doubts either.

[@aikotitilai3820]

For real it just reminds me of an overworked mother who isn't appreciated by her family and is getting fed up with it

[@AwesomeShrekku]

God I’m glad I grew up with old Disney.

[@TheDragonsTreasure]

Same, it's like night and day

[@animezilla4486]

I'm didn't

[@knox7945]

For reals.

[@Uta_Chandra.H]

When children was their main focus

[@fox1actual]

I didn’t. Disney has always been propaganda. Back then it was harder to notice it but it’s still there.

[@fearlesspigs883]

Basically, this movie sets to teach kids that they *deserve* everything that they want and that parents who don't spoil their kids are universally evil.

[@Kyosukedono]

Alright guys, read this and let me know if this makes sense: Deranged villager: I wish I could grape an 11 year old! Magnifico (The villain): ABSOLUTELY NOT! Take him to the dungeon and your wish stays with me, I won't let you near it! Asha (The Hero): Granted!! Everyone's wishes should come true! See the problem here Disney?

[@andreacastillo5030]

debauchery at it's finest

[@pallen2645]

Haven't you been paying attention? Modern Disney wouldn't have a problem with that AT ALL.

[@Kyosukedono]

@@pallen2645 reason why they call Asha the hero. I don't want Disney to be liberal or conservative, a good middle ground is all we ask. Is that really so hard?

[@starpeep5769]

​@@mirceazaharia2094wtf? Wtaf wt actual f what da actual fuck

[@foxnfire6388]

There is no “middle ground” with your scenario. Either you’re a monster or you’re not and right now only one side the left supports monsters. Not all dichotomies are false. We are seeing that more and more today. The line between “right wing” and “left wing” is simply good and evil and those still wishing to be “moderate” are both deluding themselves and are nothing but the typical weak cowards that similarly existed in all past tyrannies…the group that doesn’t want to “take sides” as the Jews get marched to death camps…

[@Ante-Anima]

On a less morale scale, King Magnifico could easily dodge the whole situation with a simple lie : "But... Your grandpa already had his first wish fullfilled ! A long life to see his beloved grand daughter grow up until adulthood... The rules are the rules, one wish per person. It's truly a shame wish magic erase the memory of the wishes, I'll give you that."

[@mattiasilva1705]

*Speech level: 100*

[@staringgasmask]

That'd require Magnifico to be a smart villain, which would require Disney writers to be smart in the first place

[@ironicmanovic6570]

Roll credits lol

[@meteorstarthearcher5350]

@@staringgasmask the sad part is he isnt a villian in the first place

[@Aliksander54]

Yeah, that's exactly what a villain would do. Therefore, the fact he DIDN'T do something so simple as to LIE to a naïve girl is further proof that he ISN'T a villain. The deeper you think about it the more clear it becomes. 😂

[@SquidInkAnimations]

A loving father, cares about his children in not letting them have everything they want compared to everything they need. A terrible Father spoils their children in giving them anything they want.

[@sovietunion7643]

seems like thats the biggest problem with kids in the west nowadays. too much of what they want in luxury and not enough of what they need in parental stability

[@SquidInkAnimations]

@@sovietunion7643 I couldn't agree more with you.

[@typemasters2871]

Makes it sound like the film is saying “good parents buy their children everything they want without question”

[@varnix1006]

And spoiled kids create the worst adults.

[@JorisVDC]

Sounds like the devilish plan that is being pushed through the culture war. Mao also used teenagers to further his madness of total control. Use the gullible and destroy the nucleus family, than you can have total control because you have broken the backbone of any community.

[@kaylahensley1581]

I think it would have been powerful if in the end the king gave the grandfather back his wish and he realizes that he had made it come true on his own by being a well beloved person that people looked up to. Living to a hundred and being a decent fulfilled person is totally inspiring! Or Asha could have told her grandpa that she saw his wish and it was to be an inspiration. “You’re an inspiration every day.” How much more emotionally impactful is that than a supernatural being giving a self indulgent girl a magic stick?

[@fractalgem]

That could have made an excellent ending. Maybe not soneasily folded into a plot point, but a lovely ending.

[@qwefg3]

The three main problems. They botched the villian. They botched the hero. They botched the moral. One good or bad idea they could have done was have the 'villain ego obsession or annoyed that he couldn't grant all wishes because some were to vague. Have him even be annoyed and explain/shout that the grandfather had his wish granted long ago... to inspire the youth? He inspired the main character by his wish seemingly not be granted. Have her say that's a lousy wish granted... and him shout back 'I know!' And have him be annoyed that was the best he was able to due to how vague the wish was. Maybe have it end with him trying to ground him or help get the wishes better clarify and then have her become new wish master or appreciate. That was just the random idea I got... but lets go with the second major flaw. Aladdin had told a better story, and did more magic with 6 wishes. How cam a geni be more magical than a literal all granting wishing star?

[@juan0808]

Aladin didn't make the same error that this movie. They actually put rules and limitations to the wishes because having an all powerful element destroy any story in like 5 seconds. Asha could have wished to the star that everyone get their wishes back and the movie ends without any problem.

[@sohodollll]

Did yall even watch the movie? Asha asked star right away if he can grant wishes and Star said no. Idk why yall think star can grant wishes lmao

[@TheDragonsTreasure]

@sohodollll Star said no cause they didn't have the wishes inside them, so he couldn't grant them

[@diveforknowledge]

​@@juan0808Interestingly, in the original "genie" story there were no limitations, the character was clever enough to impose his own limitations to avoid anyone discovering and stealing the magic.

[@alexsolomon7991]

I heard in another review that this is the first Disney musical to deliberately use AI engines to write song lyrics. Im Thinking they may have been used to write more than the lyrics to songs. And this announcer pretty much hits the nail on the head: looking back at the story, it's almost like Asha made a wish that we didn't see where she was the hero and he was the villain.

[@Drave_Jr.]

That would be terrifying. Just think about it. You're trying to do what can best help the kingdom, while making sure wishes people made when they were young and may not have thought of the consequences. And then, almost against your will, your personality turns into what you hate, and you go against your people, destroying it all.

[@Khann_2102]

@@Drave_Jr. Honestly this could be an interesting take, i swear i know some characters that have this unfortunate event in their story but forgot who they are

[@reachforthestars7040]

The fact that it seems that Miraculous Ladybug was able to get the “be careful what you wish for” thing better then this movie is very telling. I actually need to watch it now, because there is no way Miraculous was able to portray morals better than this movie.

[@drawingdragon]

Assuming you're talking about the series and not the film (haven't seen it yet) Miraculous actually has some weirdly fantastic morality in it. Like some of the storytelling goes harder than any "serious" films to come out recently - and its just this cheesy little French show about superhero tropes. The series villain is also utterly fantastic as a character, they humanize him and give him motives without ever justifying the absolutely evil things he does.

[@DevilfishFace]

Ladybug has some truly awful morality in it. @@drawingdragon

[@olakpasa6486]

@@drawingdragon Good to know I'm not the only one surprised about how good the writing can actually be in that show , like there are cliches here and there , but it's one of the best representations of what would happen if you were to give literal teenagers the duty of saving the whole world

[@olakpasa6486]

I mean , there are some bad episodes , and the creator is a certified asshole , but it's important to keep in mind the protagonists are teens , they are still undeveloped , they have soo much to learn and you can see growth in the protagonists as the show goes own , sure , they should tone it down with the whole love interest thing , like settle it or use it as a side-story , but I do think its a very good show. Altho I'd like to hear why you think it is so awful @@DevilfishFace

[@peachy_lili]

@@olakpasa6486 just watch the old anime Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne (Phantom Thief Jeanne). they did the story first and better

[@somanyfruitsmango9021]

The worst you can say about Magnifico is that he's a dictator... But that's kindof a moot point considering the fact he's clearly a good leader. His citizens are happy, many of them are overweight so clearly their survival needs are being met, he's never shown to be outwardly callous or mistreat his people (at least prior to his "I'm evil now" scene). Quite frankly, he should be a dictator. He clearly knows how to run his kingdom and keep his people alive and happy; I'd vote for him. If anything, Asha is the villain for opposing him.

[@RedStar441]

It's genuinely disgusting that these are the things writers want to teach. That Pandora, the person warned not to open the box, was the good guy and that the person who warned her is infact the bad guy. These are the kind of people that scoff at anyone in positions of authority, and I dare say were probably the same kind of kids who could never take no as an answer. There's a good reason we have apocalypse stories and tragedies about people attaining unchecked power, because it teaches kids that power should never be sought out. It should be retained only when necessary and used responsibly. If Asha gained the power to grant wishes too, why didnt she grant her grandfathers wish and be done with it? Hell why didn't she *restore* Magnifico when the evil had taken hold of him, because the real fucking question is was he beyond redemption??? He's easily the most redeemable Disney villain written, seriously who wrote this crap.

[@andreacastillo5030]

Who else? probably someone who has an obsessive need to go against any authority, someone who was never told ''No', someone spoiled and bitter about the world

[@FrauYaU]

To be fair, there's a lot of corporate meddling that goes on in these movies. It's likely this was not the story the writers set out to tell.

[@bella_daze3092]

@@FrauYaUthat’s what I believe too… this was not the story they wanted to tell but… everything got twisted into a story that’s not good to watch overall

[@mcapps1]

Women. And produced by women.

[@matronmalice9867]

A hateful post modernist.

[@mollietenpenny4093]

Ways they could've taken the story: 1. Make King Magnifico be a good guy, make Asha his daughter (making her a princess), and having an obviously evil royal advisor (like Jafar) steal the wishes. Asha tries to warn her father but he doesn't listen or something. 🤷🏼‍♀️ 2. Keep Magnifico evil and still have Asha be his daughter. The plot could be Asha trying to overthrow her evil father and save the kingdom. 4. Have Sorcerer's Apprentice kind of story where Asha grants everyone's wishes causing absolute chaos. Asha and Magnifico have to work together to fix everything. 5. Here's a stupid one. The grandpa is the twist villain. The grandpa says he wants to inspire the next generation but he really means to put the kingdom under a dictatorship, causing Asha and the Magnifico work together to overthrow Asha's grandpa. 😅😂

[@Ouchimoo]

OR Make Asha the daughter of the King and Queen as before. Have the evil book slowly bleed into the influence of the two of them since it was supposed to be a Husband Wife evil duo from the beginning unlike the placid stand by and do nothing queen we got with motivations that made zero sense. Rewrite the story with actual good villains from the get go and maybe her wish upon the star is her saving her parents from corruption. Oh and giving her an actual character arc instead of I"M QUIRKY! TEE. HEE.

[@whitedogsblackcats]

​@Ouchimoo it would actually fit the story if her flaw was that she had low self eestem and have her actually be awkward instead of quirky awkward. Then she slowly starts to gain hope and confidence in her to be able to save her parents and the kingdom.

[@yaplt8538]

Any of these would be better than what we have.

[@kaiburrus3190]

Actually 4 would be pretty good. And if it still ends the same way (people get their wish BACK and it's NOT granted) they then have to work for their wish for it to come true.

[@Beloved-j2g]

4 sounds like the best story, tbh and I don't understand why Disney wouldn't have gone that route since it would still fit in with modern sensibilities. Magnifico could’ve been similar to Merlin from Sword in the Stone, too. A missed opportunity to reference that movie

[@matthewchandler7845]

Imagine how good this movie could have been if Magnifico turned out to be the good guy and Asha was the bad guy (through naivete and not malice) DARN you would never forget that.

[@Hana_H]

THAT’D BE EPIC

[@OneClassicalLass]

WORK FOR DISNEY NOW 😮

[@catbatrat1760]

@@OneClassicalLass I dunno that they'd be allowed to work for Disney. It kinda feels like Disney doesn't allow those kinds of ideas. XD

[@OneClassicalLass]

@@catbatrat1760 Fair enough...

[@hotwax9376]

6:30 "We live in an age of horrible self-indulgence, and this movie is a reflection of that." My feelings exactly, and everything we need to know about this film too.

[@alanmartinez2122]

they could have done so much with this movie and the dynamic between Asha and Magnifico and they ruined it by just shoehorning "oops you evil now" magic into it, it would have been so great to see their views on what wishes could be used, Asha could have been SHOWN how bad wishes that seemed innocent resulted in bad things happening (imagine if she found out said wish from someone led to the loss or ilness of her father), or if you really want to keep magnifico as a villain they could have played into his fear, him being afraid of Rosas suffering the same fate as his home making him grow more and more paranoid about the wishes he should grant or how Asha turning people (SPOILER: including HIS WIFE) who have been with him since the start against him as proof of it beginning to break apart after he worked so hard for them

[@TheDragonsTreasure]

I feel like making a video on how I would rewrite it now lol

[@alanmartinez2122]

@@TheDragonsTreasure that would be nice to see, another thought that just came up regarding my previous comment thou, about the wish that asha would see that led to bad results and all of that. What if she only saw the original wish and it's aftermath. But later it's revealed that wish led to the creation of the evil entity that resided in the forbidden magic book and magnifico himself had trapped it inside the book because he couldn't destroy it despite being such a powerful sorcerer and it had kept trying to tempt him for years to use it's power and asha escalating things because of her grandpa's wish was what actually threw him over the edge and give in to try and save his kingdom and his people from his perspective EDIT: WHAT IF WHAT IF while not dedicate an entire scene to it it was implied the person who made the bad wish was someone magnifico knew and trusted (a friend or family or whatever you want) but the point is he granted them their wish out of trust in them, as a favor to someone dear to him and you could let the audience link that to him refusing to fulfill asha's request to grant her grandpa's wish and make that scene more impactful!

[@b.a.carroll2735]

I thought the same thing: just a quick bit of him giving examples of actual "bad wishes" would have made Magnifico, and thereby the movie, so much more interesting.

[@_elevenofspades]

The first instance while watching this movie where I began growing a bit optimistic was when Asha and Magnifico met. Their chemistry is wonderful and the dialogue is honestly building up to something great - Magnifico clearly sees a lot of his own qualities in Asha, he appears to have high hopes for her and he admires her desire to help the community. These are two people who believe themselves “caretakers,” of a kingdom, of a community, of a family, etc. - the difference that should have been unveiled OVER TIME (that is, in more than 5 minutes) is that Asha’s caring nature is built on genuine compassion, while Magnifico’s is unconsciously built on greed, which is in turn built on his fear of losing control. But Magnifico and Asha are BARELY together in the film, and they only share 2 conversations with a hint of complexity or moral ambiguity. The others are all very clearly depicting “evil vs good,” and that makes their chemistry lose its spark. I think this movie would have been a thousand times more interesting if a cool and slow-burn realization dynamic had been built between the hero and the villain. It’d make things a lot easier in terms of showing Asha’s concern spiking out into action and Magnifico’s lust for power and growing insecurities inevitably clouding his sanity. The lost potential is BRUTAL 😭

[@alanmartinez2122]

@@_elevenofspades I KNOW RIGHT?! the pieces are right there for a great story and they used NONE OF IT, that's the saddest part, this could have been an actually worthy movie to celebrate 100 years of disney and instead they gave us the most basic, bland, cookie cutter disney movie they could have done

[@JBX9001]

It’s a totally different series, but I can’t help but notice that Asha breaking into Magnifico’s study so her grandfather’s wish can be granted after it was denied, is eerily similar to what Bowser does in the first Paper Mario. The Star Spirits intentionally chose not to grant his wishes because they were selfish, one of them being to defeat Mario (and knowing him, Bowser would want to end his life in the process). So Bowser literally goes to Star Haven, steals the Star Rod, and plots to make it so only his wishes come true. Disney made a “protagonist” whose goal is no better than that of one of the most well-known video game villains.

[@Gensolink]

and bowser still has some redeeming qualities in spite of his bad deeds. Like Bowser wanting to be a good father to his son.

[@imhoong]

​@@Gensolinkwhat's even funnier is that bowser was in an ad for moderating children's playtime, sounds as reasonable as magnificos intent to protect his people from chaotic wishes

[@joseurbanos.domingo6344]

​@@imhoongand some of the time, he just chilling.

[@clodolcmidnights837]

Even worse when you remember that bowser was in wreck-it Ralph So not only did they make a protagonist who’s goal is no better then that of one of the most well-known video game villains But They even included that very same well-known video game villain in one of their movies!

[@for4269]

@@Gensolink That’s actually the entire reason he kidnaps Peach! We know this because of Sunshine! He kept telling Jr that she was his mother, and Jr believed him! We don’t know who Jr’s bio-mom is (probably never will), and after Jr was born, Bowser kept kidnapping peach just because he wanted his son to have a mother… This actually echoes through the entire series. Why do you think he tried to marry Peach in Odyssey? In Asha’s case, she just wants to get her grandfather’s wish granted, while also NOT wasting her wish, and she’s considered “selfless” by the other characters?!

[@jc1979af]

This feels like how Hans was shoehorned in as a villian. Anna and Elsa run away from their responsibilities, leaving a terrified people. Hans on the other hand showed leadership by getting blankets and reassuring everyone. He then forms a small team to find Elsa and confront her about the situation. Sounds like 100% good guy to me. But they had to make him the villian

[@andreacastillo5030]

there's a theory that says that Hans wasn't evil but that the stone trolls cursed him, so Kristoff could be Anna's husband or something like that

[@jc1979af]

@@andreacastillo5030 the trolls were the villians because they mislead the family about Elsa's condition. Also Anna takes a critical hit and is dying...yet they bust out in a song about love instead of taking the time to hear about what happened.

[@andrewgreeb916]

You can make an argument that Hans had selfish reasons for doing that, you can't rule a city of dead people.

[@Ouchimoo]

@@andreacastillo5030 Unfortunately just a fan theory. Still, made 1000% more sense than the canon though.

[@BrokensoulRider]

Would've made more sense than what they did. Hans was probably supposed to be the original romance for Anna when Let it Go happened. :| It was supposed to be a Snow Queen origin story. @@andreacastillo5030

[@The-one-and-only-Fruitcake]

0:05 i thought this said “autistic perspective” instead of artistic perspective and i was like “sounds about right”

[@richardkev3077]

Disney has become a gross, inverted reflection of Walt’s vision.

[@kingwolf9447]

He is screaming and rolling around in his grave watching his creation burn so quickly

[@lukethepotatoking]

I mean, he was a dick too tbh

[@josephicenogle9443]

Lol they got a lot o Jews working at Disney these days. You bet your ass Walt is pissed. J/k

[@whyamiintotransformers]

At this point now, he'll just be doing barrel rolls for all of eternity in his grave

[@Firguy_the_Foot_Fetishist]

Fun Fact: Walt Disney's interests were not strictly limited to film-making. He was also a visionary in other disciplines such as urban planning. Epcot was meant to be a city intended as a model for efficient urban planning conducive to being pedestrian friendly. When he died, his successors turned it into a theme park and the areas around Disney World became overrun with suburban single-use tract house developments, which are antithetical to good urban planning and are a symptom of a rampant disease inflicted on American cities because of thoughtless greed on the part of unimaginative, moneygrubbing capitalist parasites.

[@33pandagamer]

There are quite a few stories that have entities that can grant anyone's dreams/wishes, and a lot of times these entities will say things like "I only grant the wishes of the pure-hearted" This is because they know that granting literally everyone their wish would result in a living nightmare.

[@leyrua]

Granting wishes to only the pure-hearted could be just as much as a disaster, since pure-heartedness often comes hand in hand with naivety. 😬

[@notatallfunctional]

Hence why the cave of wonders would only open to the “diamond in the rough”

[@cannabico6621]

Pure heartedness comes hand in hand with naivety? You have been brainwashed by propaganda, the kind of propaganda that inverts values like for example: good is bad, bad is good, or the more nuanced "dark and gritty is mature, lightheartedness is childish", "emotions are weakness", "selflessness is foolishness" "greed is good" "the hero stopping the bad guys and delivering justice is boring, i want 10 plot twists and moral relativism" etc.

[@Madison-iw8ix]

@leyrua Not always, but I do agree.

[@KororaPenguin]

​@@leyrua Mister Rogers had no illusions about the evil in the world, and it was a necessary corollary of his worldview that he, too, had a taint inside. And even the knight in shining armor knows that the fight is not needless. That said, I would not trust ANYONE--myself least of all--with a genie. Such lamps belong at the hearts of nuclear waste dumps, where they cannot be safely obtained.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

If the Disney Princesses all represent something, I know what Asha represents. Snow White: Purity. Fairest of them all. Belle. Insight. Not fooled by appearances. Mulan. Courage. Brings honour to us all. Asha. *ENTITLEMENT.* I decide whose Wishes get granted.

[@helenaribeiro0225]

You realize that by saying "fairest of them all" doesn't mean purity, right? It just means that she prettier than the others, nothing else.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

@@helenaribeiro0225 I think you missed the entire point of Snow White. "Fairest of them all" was always about Purity and Goodness. The Evil Queen believed it to be about Beauty and that was her fatal flaw. She was so obsessed with being the most Beautiful that she turned herself into an old crone to kill Snow White. It's not Snow White's beauty that made the Dwarves become fond of her. It was always her caring and compassionate nature moreso than her beauty. The Evil Queen is the 2nd most "Fair" but deep down she is cruel and nasty.

[@bloxworld6593]

I agree. Speaking of the Disney Princesses, this movie was supposed to be a celebration of all of Disney's past movies. You know what would've made it better? If all of the side characters represented a Disney Princess/Prince. Like you said, the Disney Princesses represent a trait. Courage, Insight, Purity. The writers of Wish could've added those traits to the side characters to celebrate their past movies.

[@helenaribeiro0225]

@@PlanetZoidstar Not really. If you go to the original tale, it's clear indication of her beauty, nothing else. In the very first tellings of Snow White, she is pretty vain and, honestly not very bright, the dwarves only took her in, so that she could be basically their maid while she decided with which of them she would marry. And the prince only kissed her because she was beautiful and he thought that she was dead, which makes it kinda dark... If you search the term, especially in medieval times, "fairest" meant beautiful and pale (also sometimes, it meant "blond"), which back then being pale meant being wealthy. The paler and chubbier they were, the more beautiful women were considered to be in that time. Disney's Snow White, is just a retelling of a much older tale that was embellished by Walt Disney. He kept using the term "fairest of them all" just because it sounded good and because she was pale. So, that term has more history that the one Disney put on. For Disney, sure it may mean "pure", but the real meaning of the expression is not that. If it did, there would be no reason for the expression: "The fair, pure maiden with thy purest of hearts." About the Disney movie of Snow White, I really don't like it, nor do I like Snow White. I can't stop seeing her as the dumb vain, 14 year old girl that she is in the earliest versions of the tale.

[@verysleepywolf]

I thought she was Snow White because she was fucking dead 😂

[@rose516]

And the sad part when beloved wife of the king he cared so much for and trusted so much just dumped him without a drop of sadness when he got possessed and went mad... Like that's not what love and partnership looks like, you don't just forget a person because of the fact he made one bad decision out of good intentions.

[@AshRyder]

Rapunzel wasn't bad in Tangled though, she was just adorable and eccentric, but rightfully fought for her freedom.

[@TheDragonsTreasure]

I loved Tangled, Disney grossly messed up it's marketing

[@shieldphaser]

Tangled was one of the few ones that actually felt like it got things right. The closer to now we've gotten, the fewer such things have come out of Disney. I miss the good old days.

[@aniram.6079]

Tangled was a masterpiece-and revolutionary for being the first computer animated Disney Princess film. But it got casted aside by the Frozen hype, even though Frozen was half as good… but the commercial success of that film completely changed Disney’s priorities for their animated features

[@aniram.6079]

Tangled was a masterpiece-and revolutionary for being the first computer animated Disney Princess film. But it got casted aside by the Frozen hype, even though Frozen was half as good… but the commercial success of that film completely changed Disney’s priorities for their animated features

[@aniram.6079]

Tangled was a masterpiece-and revolutionary for being the first computer animated Disney Princess film. But it got casted aside by the Frozen hype, even though Frozen was half as good… but the commercial success of that film completely changed Disney’s priorities for their animated features

[@jacktheomnithere2127]

since Magnifico was basically a good guy despite his arrogance, here's what he should have done in the first place instead of snapping at Asha. Magnifico would pull down the grandpa's wish and explain to Asha: "see, your grandfather has good intentions behind his wish... but there are consequences for every action. he may inspire people to chase their dreams, but it could also inspire the wrong type of people; it could lead to catastrophic results. *puts the grandpa's wish back and pulls in another* let's take this woman, who wishes she could be the greatest seamstress in all the land. why didn't i grant her wish? because she can do it herself! wishes like this one are physically achievable; why aren't you doing it? why aren't you embarking on the journey of making it come true? if your wish can be physically achieved, then don't just sit there, hoping it will come true, get out there and do it! walk the path that can make your dream a reality! *puts back the wish and pulls in a third one* let's also take this man, who wanted to become a great military leader: intelligent, brave, strong... all that. but what if that got to his head? he could start wars for the sake of winning, or to prove he's the best. or worse, just because he loves conflict. he could end up killing innocent civilians - make children orphans, like what happened to me; devastate an entire country. and if the people survive, they'll have nowhere to go, and would be taking food right out of their own mouths. be careful what you wish for. what you think you want, could be the thing you really don't want. *puts the wish back* do you see now why i can only grant select few wishes, Asha? it's to prevent unintended consequences. if i granted everyone's wishes, it'd be chaos. believe me... i know. when i was younger, still learning magic, i once did just that." did my best here, what do you think?

[@jacktheomnithere2127]

alternatively, if Magnifico was to remain an honest-to-God villain... mind hearing me out? i have to say it. 3:25 that's Simon, one of Asha's friends (love that he's left-handed. because i am). funny, he reminds me of Link from the Zelda franchise: a left-handed warrior armed with sword and shield, donning a pointed hat. but why does he remind me of Link?... ohh! so Simon was made into a knight, right? he could have had more character development. a humble citizend turned hero? we could have had that with Simon - hell, he could have been a secondary protagonist. well firstly, remove the reference to the 7 Dwarves - or at least don't give the friends the personalities of the Dwarves except for 2 (which could work). secondly, we could have had a love story between Asha and Simon. Valentino - the goat - could just have a child-like voice and matching personality: brave, stubborn, ready to rumble, rarely bright of mind (oi, i'm doing my best). that clip where he discovered a hole in the wall by scratching his butt on the wooden plank? he could have found it by headbutting the plank repeatedly because he wants to give Magnifico a good whooping. magic. let me see... well, it could be like any other: light, grey and dark; but i'll get into "wish magic" later on - and soon enough. King Magnifico... a sorcerer who's also a king? in a tower-castle? reminds me of Ganondorf from Oot. there's a reason why Simon reminds me of Link. he could have been born the son of a great sorcerer. he was intelligent, but because of who his father was, Magnifico was also arrogant; narcissistic. this would have lead him down a dark path - and acquiring a book of dark spells. he could have married the princess (now queen) of Rosas, through planning and manipulation, to rule with an iron first. but why the princess of Rosas specifically, though? because he's learnt the magic of wishes: Rosas could have been a land known for being "favoured by the stars", thus the kingdom was the one with the most wishes granted. and the neighbouring forest would have been enchanted as the result of the magic particles of the multitude of wishes being fulfilled falling onto it, explaining why the animals talk and why the plants can move. how this "wish magic" works is the stronger the desire of the person with a wish, the more powerful the magic within the wish orb. but the twist is, the queen was just as narcissistic and manipulative as Magnifico, and wanted that power as well. they genuinely fell in love and married, and Magnifico taught her everything he knew. instead of having people forget their wish once they've given it to Magnifico, how about this: with the knowledge of Rosas and its "wish magic" in mind, Magnifico maintained his power by withholding as many wishes as he can. but he would have to keep his facade as a benevolent ruler; thus he resorted to granting one or two wishes every month, "explaining" that granting a wish, while it looks simple enough (which it is), is VERY draining to him; so he needs a month's time to fully recover to grant another wish. the plan was foolproof; he was slowly but surely gaining more power as time went on... but something's missing... oh, right! he's a sorcerer, why not use the rest of his magic during the climax? as far as i know, he can fire energy orbs, shapeshift and *weaponize the wish orbs against his enemies!* you're a sorcerer, Magnifico; put your magic to BETTER use! let me try and re-write the movie: Asha's grandpa was once both a sorcerer and a musician who wanted nothing but the good for the world... but he's told no-one about it; he wanted to live a peaceful, humble life - only using magic in secret (this will come into play later). one day, Simon tells Asha (who is completely Hispanic) and his friends of his wish of becoming a knight, since it's nearly his 18th birthday; Asha, due to her determined spirit, encourages him to follow his dream and never give up - which results in his wish being granted (i'll add that they've had a crush on each other for some time at the start of the film, but were too shy to progress). Asha sneaks into the castle and Magnifico surprisingly lets her stay and shows him his chamber. turns out sorcerers can sense the magic potential in others and Magnifico sensed Asha's potential in magic, which was powerful enough to challenge his own. thus he decided to teach her (when in reality, he wanted to take it away because of the threat Asha posed to him). at first everything goes well for Simon with his new career, but that means leading him to reluctantly chase Asha out of the castle at Magnifico's request (after she breaks into his chamber and discovers the wish orbs), much to Asha's shock and displeasure - a sort of betrayal, if you will. but then, he slowly but surely notices King Magnifico's true colours. he sneaks out the castle to make amends for his mistakes to his friends - espescially Asha, whom he hurt the most. everyone reconciles, then Asha and her friends try to thwart Magnifico's plan, with Simon being the inside-man. while all of this was going down, Asha learns more magic spells with help from the Star she and Valentino found. then everything goes to $#1t, then we get to the climax. King Magnifico kidnaps Asha, succeeds in taking away her magic, and it's up to Simon - with some encouragement from Valentino - to rescue her (the classic hero saves princess from evil sorcerer routine). Simon, together with Valentino and the other friends, climb to the top of the castle (the roof of which being open, green clouds bathing the kingdom in a green hue), now having another, more important reason to deafeat Magnifico (being Simon's love for Asha); fighting the animated suits of armour, as well as monsters King Magnifico has summoned with his magic. before battling Magnifico, however, they had to face the queen, who was not going to let some peasants and rookie knight ruin her and her husband's plans of domination; then she dies with her defeat. Simon and the others then fight Magnifico, and after "phase 1", the latter would be like "i'll need more than just my staff to kill you", ditches it, then starts phase 2: casting spells like those energy orbs i've mentioned before, plus summoning lightning bolts from the clouds, creating an illusory double and, as i suggested before, *weaponizing the wishes he's been hoarding.* particularly, the ungranted wishes of Simon's friends. then after getting his butt kicked *again,* he goes "THAT'S IT!"... but then he notices his dead wife. King Magnifico utterly snaps. he traps Valentino and Simon's friends, leaving Simon to defeat him alone, and begins phase 3 by, alla Maleficent/Ganondorf, transforming into a fire-breathing dragon. it'd look like this www.gettyimages.it/detail/fotografie-di-cronaca/the-seven-headed-dragon-fairy-tale-by-jacob-and-fotografie-di-cronaca/1077584792 but only has one head, and the colours match the clothes he was wearing (like the ventral side of the wings being blue with white spots, like the inside of his cape). Simon now has to dodge/block every blast of fire Magnifico spews, then after getting cornered, Simon drives his sword into the dragon's heart, killing him. and thus ends the reign of King Magnifico and his queen (though they reunite in the afterlife). Simon and Asha (who gets her magic back) confess and share a kiss, then follows the ending and the two, along with everyone else, lived happily ever after. look, i did my best to write a *potentially* better story, alright? what do you think?

[@ziephel-6780]

So Disney sees responsible leaders as bad guys, and patriarchal. Hilarious.

[@CrystallizedCoyote]

@@jacktheomnithere2127 Dude, I like both the idea of the dialogue if Magnifico was the good guy and also like the idea of the rewrite of a better story! It sounds very good!

[@jacktheomnithere2127]

@@CrystallizedCoyote means a lot me that someone likes my ideas. Thank you.

[@KaptenN]

Not to mention that a wish to be the best at something can only be granted to one person per thing to be the best at. How do you solve that conflict?

[@katherinekania8736]

In the movie Asha gets mad that her friends wish comes true. She literally got mad that he did whatever he could to make his wish come true. She was doing the same thing 😂

[@honeynutsoup]

disney tried so hard to make king magnifico sympathetic and justified in his actions that they accidentally forgot to make him still evil

[@Madison-iw8ix]

I don't think so. I think that they genuinely think that being something like a responsible parent is evil. It reminds me of their reaction to Florida's Parental Rights in Education Bill.

[@everwildart3563]

I love the scrap materials instead. The things they pushed aside are actually interesting to me, with the evil king and queen, Star shapeshifting into a human and possible romance with Asha...I just find that more fun than whatever we got instead XD

[@BlackCroft666]

A conflict between Asha and the King ending with both the Star Boy and queen hurt and so both calming down and realising that both went Overboard would Had been a nice Plot. But two hetero couples in 2023? Impossible.

[@fierybookworm]

It's ironic how the leader of this story went over the edge when people asked him questions, sort of like what the people at Disney do whenever they are asked questions 🤣 and they start blaming audiences for not supporting them.

[@sew_gal7340]

Story writers subconsciously write characters to reflect themselves. To them the good guys is like themselves and the bad guys is like everyone else, ironically the majority of people with morals knows who the bad guy is

[@PossessiveK]

"You only dislike our message because your racist/sexist/stupid, not because we could EVER be wrong!" I'm so sick of that attitude and crappy movies like this that try to push fake heroines.

[@gimmeyourrights8292]

It's called the sympathetic strawman. When you make a character who the audience would actually side with because the writer fails to make them reprehensible so instead they make thwm inconsistent.

[@tup4443]

THE FORTRESS IS UNDER ATTACK BY THE GRAMMAR NAZIS! QUICK, CHANGE THAT W TO AN E OR THEY WILL KILL US ALL!!!

[@amadmucid5498]

There should be an extra arc at the end....where everything goes to shit, and the queen is revealed to be the villain and the protagonist has to work to free the king and fix things. THAT would be a good ending

[@thewinterprince1731]

How to save this film: Make a sequel where Asha's anarchy has resulted in chaos, and she has to exorcize a literal demon from Magnifico so he can help her fix everything.

[@jskywalker58]

that i would definitely watch

[@MidnightDrake]

Wish 2: Conjuring.

[@EmaRussoUltra]

We’ll call it “Magnificent”

[@rosesongoku6980]

The Magnificent Mephisto.

[@LeafRazorStorm]

Hey, it wouldn't be the first time Disney made a sequel that completely backpedals the message of the previous film.

[@madamefluffy4788]

If you ask me, Asha is the true villain in this movie. Magnifico - the 'villain' - is weighing the pros and cons of a wish before granting it (which is probably why so few are granted - as most of the wishes are either deemed dangerous or nonsensical/useless). He explains why he doesn't return the wishes to their owners (why should he return a wish that was freely given to him by someone who had no drive to fulfill that wish on their own terms when he can just have them forget the wish and allow them to move on with their peaceful life without having to dwell on an unfulfilled wish?) Magnifico did not resort to using the cursed book (which he ended up being corrupted; turning him into an actual villain) until after Asha obtained her star buddy that started granting any and all wishes. Magnifico's wife is no better - as she knew what he was doing with those wishes, and did nothing to stop him. Apparently had a way to prevent Magnifico from being corrupted by the cursed book - and didn't insist he use it. And when Magnifico was dethorned/sealed in a mirror - she saw the punishment as just and sent him to the dungeons (way to turn traitor, lady!)

[@b.a.carroll2735]

I really don't understand how we are to accept that if it's morally wrong for Magnifico to only grant about 14 wishes a year, why no one---but especially the queen---has ever questioned why he wasn't granting more, up to this point.

[@Usako_IDVTuber]

Have to agree with Asha possibly being the true villain of the story. One indication is her rising up song "What I Know Now" and Magnifico's "This is the Thanks I Get". His song is upbeat (happy tone) maybe some of the words are evil or vague in the song, but Asha's song has a dark beat tone.

[@luckdragongirl]

They're basically using the villain as a substitute for God. In the writers' underdeveloped minds, God is malevolent because He doesn't answer every prayer in the exact way that the person praying asks. Communism is very anti-religion because it replaces religion. Asha is a very naive person. She doesn't realize wishes can be bad. Let's give a few examples of wishes that would end up very badly: 1. Someone wishes to rule the entire world - can't do it since there are too many cultures that have their own ways of thinking about government - would have to be a dictator and force control in order to rule over everyone 2. Someone wishes for eternal youth - ends up as a toddler for ever 3. Someone wishes for immortality - everyone else wishes for immortality, so no one dies, everyone ends up with more pain as they age, resources grow scarce because no one is dying and more people are constantly born, everyone suffers from malnutrition & unclean water but you can't die to end the suffering 4. Someone wishes for his or her favorite sports team to win - someone else wished for the opposing team to win - no clue what happens here, but it's a stalemate 5. Someone wishes for the biggest mansion in the area - gets it & someone else wishes for a bigger mansion - mansions keep magically expanding and eat up the land causing the animals to run away or roam the streets due to lack of land to live on & the mansions also start expanding into other people's homes, causing them to be homeless 6. Someone wishes for someone else to die since this person is evil 7. Some 60-year-old sleazy man lusts after Asha, so he wishes for her to be his - she has to grant this, right? Right? RIGHT? After all, all people deserve their wish. She is the villain. She's like most real life villains. She had good intentions, but she doesn't understand the world, so the good intentions combined with power is going to lead to bad results and corrupt her. No, she's not the Fairy Godmother. She's Maleficent.

[@sohodollll]

Star doesnt grant wishes lmao where did you even get that from?

[@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad]

​@@sohodollll "wish upon a Star" There's your answer

[@H0PEisaL1E]

This movie really reminds me of Raya and the last dragon. Raya learned early on that you have to be cautious with people because not everybody has good intentions. And yet the moral of the movie ends up being that you *should* trust everyone. The situation is very similar here. Magnifico knows from experience that some wishes are dangerous and shouldn't be granted (while this isn't shown I think he probably learned these things the hard way, just like Raya). And once again the moral of the movie is that every wish *should* be granted. It looks like Disney doesn't understand that there is a middle route and that's the one you should take, not the extremes. Like what Magnifico does. He grants *some* of the wishes. Not none of them or all of them.

[@HavianEla]

Disney is run by extremists, they don’t entertain the moral grays, ambiguity, and nuances of this world, so I can’t expect their content to be able to

[@deltamachine343]

You gotta trust everyone! Regardless of them aiming at your head with a deadly weapon!

[@H0PEisaL1E]

@@deltamachine343 Of course you do. The only reason that they would kill you with a deadly weapon is that you don't trust them.

[@pcdeltalink036]

Much as I liked Raya as I am a dragon nerd I agree the message made no sense. I think it would have worked a lot better if Raya had been about forgiveness and letting go of past grudges, not blindly trusting people who show no reason to trust them.

[@CleverGirlAAH]

@@pcdeltalink036 Well that wouldn't work. Because these are the people who have said "we are coming for your children".

[@wolftitanreading5308]

honestly with the old man, the king could have said, "You're telling me your hundred year old grandfather, wish is to inspire people to do something... I'm sorry but he spent his whole century of living, and decided not to go out and do it himself, I'm sorry but i can't help someone who can't do it themselves, no ammount of wishing can change that. inspiring someone doesn't take great power, it takes action. has he not done anything in these hundred years? have him tell his story."

[@johnh.mcsaxx3637]

That's I was thinking. Heck, the grandpa can still speak and play his guitar well, there was nothing stopping him from going to town and playing his "inspiration" songs at his current age.

[@danielsafford692]

Speaking as a father of four, there are times in raising kids that you feel like Magnifico. As for granting wishes....each of my kids at least once wanted a wish granted thst would have been bad for them. My wife and I got them to think it through.... So I am guessing thr writers either are bad parents or had bad parents

[@leekah9981]

Or have no parents.

[@williambarnes5023]

Or are just bad people.

[@alabaster_bullet]

Or have no experience around guiding kids

[@juliea7665]

The moral shows kids that their parents are the villian ... even if the parent sacrifices and love their children, if the child doesn't get what they wish, parents are the villian. Socially engineering the rising generation to think and feel justified in that attitude.

[@gargleblasta]

The writers are children

[@gilbertotabares8196]

I knew Asha was the friggin bad guy in all this. Y'know if they made that part of the plot this movie wouldn't have been the colossal failure that it is.

[@AlexS-pb5hn]

I totally agree. I saw queen Amaya ordering to throw king magnifico in the dungeon in the end of the movie and i was like "isn't she supposed to be the good guy?" Like, he didn't deserve this. Maybe we has a bit narcissistic but nothing beyond redemption. Everything he did was done because he genuinely thought it would be good for the kingdom. He didn't show any hint of malice. Except fro when he got tethered to the book which is heavily implied to control his mind.

[@crowfoot8059]

lmao what? isn’t he her HUSBAND? even if he did turn out “evil” she would still have her old feelings for him.

[@AlexS-pb5hn]

@@crowfoot8059 right?! I have a theory. Maybe she orchestrated all this so she would rule over Rosas instead of her husband. All joking aside this could be a better premise

[@WildArmACF]

​@@AlexS-pb5hnshe is a devorcing wife character. take everything because she wants mooooore

[@Soonray09]

(I'm 14) Honestly, when I watched that movie, I initially though that the main character will grant everyone's wishes, but then something horrible would happen and it'll turn out that was someone's wish. Then they would have to solve the problem. I was obviously disappointed.

[@AlexaOrchid]

The movie is about dictatorship. It's such a thinly veiled allegory that I'm astounded by the number of people who did not get it.

[@catscanhavelittleasalami]

Don't say your age freely on the internet, especially when you're only 14.

[@mokje_]

Please don't share your age on the internet❤️

[@fractalgem]

​​@@AlexaOrchidthey accidentally portrayed the magic backed monarchy as a pretty sweet deal with no taxes, at least up until he had one bad day of being force fed the idiot ball. Oh, but then the monarchy stays in power and his wife continues to rule. Its hard to say its about dictatorship when it doesn't really have any of the usual elements od dictatorship. Sure, one guy calls the big shots. But he doesn't rely on the usual tools of oppression, just people gambling that one day he might grant their wish. Which seems to work shockingly well for them Very...very...very mixed messages. As the vid said its like there were two different writers working at cross purposes.

[@AlexaOrchid]

@@fractalgem Mixed messages for sure, considering the public's reaction. Perhaps it could be made clearer what happens if you refuse to give up your wish. It was implied but not enough for the public I guess.

[@Mysticmegster1]

It s interesting that the Shrek movies made the Fairy Godmother into the bad guy: because wishing your problems away isn't the answer

[@DefaultFlame]

I've not even heard of this movie, quite a feat considering it's Disney. However, I have one thing I wish to say to the creators of this move: Pride over a grand accomplishment is not arrogance. Also, the "villain" song is basically saying "I'm your Dad, all I ask for is respect, in exchange I will give you everything."

[@kikyomoon2996]

Don't see talking about father God cause God does grant everyone wish but just some people think in are face

[@helenaribeiro0225]

There's one thing though, just because one is a dad and is willing to give everything (material stuff) doesn't mean that they automatically deserve respect. Respect is earned not bought. In my case, I have 0 respect for my dad! He's an abusive a**hole who then tries to win me back with things! So, don't forget that. Not every dad deserves respect.

[@AStoryteller-for-fun]

​@@helenaribeiro0225that is true. However in magnifico defense, he isn't doing anything bad.

[@helenaribeiro0225]

@@AStoryteller-for-fun Oh, I wasn't talking about the actual character. I haven't seen the movie, so I have no opinion there. I was just addressing their last line in a more general way.

[@DefaultFlame]

@@helenaribeiro0225 Oh, believe me, I get it. Mine was not abusive. Mine wasn't anything. I barely have memories of him from my childhood. He was present, but that's really all I can say about him as a dad. He might as well have run out on my mom from how much of an impact on my childhood he had. He's trying now, and I appreciate the effort, clumsy as it is, but I'm in my mid-thirties, I've lived on my own and been self-sufficient since 16, and we have literally nothing in common. He wasn't a bad dad, he just wasn't anything. Hell, the one time he acted like a dad was the one time he gave me the belt, and I actually appreciate that. I'm generally against physical discipline when it comes to childrearing but I feel it was justified in that case, as me and my older brother decided in our youthful idiocy that setting fire to a foam mattress on our porch was a grand ide. The porch might have been concrete, but the roof above was plastic and connected straight to the roof of the house. I think you see where that could have lead.

[@kymo6343]

"Give him Evil Eyebrows, then everyone will know how evil he is!"

[@destinymcintire2188]

Not only is this film underwhelming as all hell I find its message to be a dangerous one. *"If you don't get what you want, even if it's for a good reason/cause, RUIN the person who dared to tell you 'No'."* What the f*ck kind of message is that to send to kids?

[@hodgepodge1476]

besides the fact "your wishes may have consequences" there's also an aspect of how there are things you simply need to work for. you can't just sit around and hope things happen, sometimes you have to make them happen.

[@kristionmichaell]

That is the literally message of the movie, you should work to make your dreams come true, because what you wish for is a part of you. It drives you, it is your passion and ambition. This is text in the movie, not subtext, literally the text of the movie.

[@Simipourfangirl]

​@@kristionmichaellif that's true then why is the person trying to teach that lesson painted as evil?

[@HavianEla]

But-But-But, that would be anti-Marxist!

[@jamm6_514]

no it would be straight up marxist, whole point is that people don't get shit by simply working for it, people get shit by having other people work under them. If everyone could own a company no one would need to work and thus there'd be no companies @@HavianEla

[@darklight1611]

@@Simipourfangirl Asha is the one who wants people to work for there dreams, but they can't since the king took there memories away. How is that not evil?

[@lauracerqueiramachado8979]

As funny as the line “I let you live here for free and I don’t even charge you rent” is I think we should appreciate that it implies the king doesn’t take or charge his citizens any sort of taxes (it’s the “rent” society charges us) which makes him more humble than 90% of all kings I’ve ever heard of (reality and fiction) he’s a monarch that doesn’t exploit his subjects and he gives more than he gets

[@LeXofLeviafan]

Which basically means _all_ of the national expenses (which are always a lot, countries can't function on enthusiasm alone) come straight out of his pocket. The man isn't just "humble", he's a goddamn saint.

[@lother1111]

@@LeXofLeviafan And this is the thanks he gets

[@darrennew8211]

Let's teach the children "Every wish should come true, and the government should have to ensure that, without charging you any money!"

[@LeXofLeviafan]

@@darrennew8211 I'm pretty sure that's quite literally the message they intended to convey in the movie 😅

[@Lyokoheros-KLPXTV]

One little detail... taxes aren't necesirally exploiting of subjects. They are only if they are extensive (like mostly is the case today)

[@luluzin5022]

I think the evil part in King Magnifico's rule is the fact that people forget their wish. A person that doesn't remember their dream can't even set out to accomplish their goals on their own. They might live an unfulfilling, unhappy life. But if he could somehow return people's memories of the wish without granting it, the problem would be solved. He could, for example, reach out to Asha's grandfather and say: "Here's your wish back. Saddly, I can't grant it because it's too vague, and it might have unforeseen consequences. Why don't you think of a more specific wish and we can try again later?" It doesn't seem out of character for him to do that either. He doesn't gain anything from storing the wishes, and I don't believe the movie ever offered a reason why Magnifico can't do that. He just doesn't for plot convenience. If the movie wanted to make him a real villain, have it be that the wishes are actually the source of his magical powers. This would explain why Magnifico built Rosas and why he wants to be seen as a good guy in the first place. In that scenario, he needs a kingdom where many people want to live, and he needs to acquire their trust so they give him their wishes. But if he never granted any wishes, people would stop entrusting them to him. That's why he only grants a select few, and stores the rest to fuel his powers. There, I fixed the movie for you, Disney.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

He cannot grant his own wishes, but if he collects enough different ones, by granting selected wishes he manipulates events to his benefit.

[@lightborn9071]

Envy, greed and lust make people have malicious wishes. When those are taken away then people are more virtously.

[@sebastianc5200]

The movie IMPLIES lack of free will is what makes the King evil but SHOWS the lack of granting all wishes presented is what makes him evil. And that’s something that’s hard to mess up from a plot standpoint. To me it’s not just confusing but willfully confusing, which is why this movie is borderline evil. If his main character flaw of not allowing for free will is more fleshed out I can see this being a much better film. Otherwise, the king is too similar to a negative portrayal of God. And I don’t think that’s my projection. It doesn’t help that we don’t have more context around what exactly made the star fall from the sky or why it fell down. If the answer is the universe or because we are all stardust - why are we comparing “it’s just stardust bro” to “the moral calculus of a wise king granting or not granting every wish?” If what made the King evil was taking away memory and free will of people to materialize their wishes themselves, why is the protagonist celebrated at the end of the film for her ability to grant any wish? Why is the movie saying one thing but showing another? 😮

[@BlackCroft666]

It would be Impossible to Grant all anyways If He Just Grants one each month. Also people do it ob their own accord. Wishes can be burdens, too.

[@thebiggestpanda1]

The wishes were freely given to him so he doesn’t have to give them back. When you think about it, having them forget a wish as opposed to living with unfulfilled desire for something harmful seems like a mercy to me. They just get to keep living in a utopia and don’t have to worry about someone getting their ambition for world domination returned to them.

[@aikordcz4424]

I saw this video when it came out, but I saw the movie just today and... wow. You were not kidding, this is truly awful. Also, you've mentioned that Magnifico going off the rails after townsfolk asked him about the wishes felt weird and rushed and yeah, you're right. But it also shows another relatable aspect of Magnificos situation. He asked his people to help him find a potentionaly dangerous wizard and all that the people think about is what they get in return. One time Magnifico asks for something after only giving and people immidietly want something back, even without providing anything. What an awful message. Great video btw

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

“Everyone’s wishes should come true!” Is a sentiment you have from ages 5-11, because children are trusting and dumb Then you realize how much of a hellspawn humanity can be, and then you realize that that world would be a dystopian hellscape wasteland within the week

[@TarsonTalon]

Literally, my only wish would be to stop people from getting their wishes granted, for the sake of self-preservation.

[@triggerhappy4199]

Same bro

[@deltamachine343]

Just imagine an edgy teenager with the Lich's wish.

[@platinumchromee3191]

​@@deltamachine343 uh oh

[@triggerhappy4199]

lmao frr@@deltamachine343

[@kishin901]

A number of Disney movies have had really bad messages. Raya and the last dragon still sticks out in my mind, as it basically promotes having blind trust in people. It starts out decent enough that trusting people is important, but then the fang or claw or whatever clan gal is supposed to be trusted at the end of it despite betraying and hunting the protagonist throughout the entire movie. It's a really bad and just downright dangerous message to reach kids in my opinion. It's not just the main antagonist either, repeatedly characters in the movie betray the protagonist for their own benefits. If the movie wanted to keep the trust message but also tack on that figuring out who deserves to be trusted, that would have been good. Honestly Disney seems to be going for toxic positivity these days, where everything is great, and everyone is a good person, unless they try to be reasonable and responsible then they're just holding you back or something.

[@disgustof-riley]

The ironic part is that Pixar made a movie AGAINST toxic positivity almost a decade ago: Inside Out. What on Earth happened :')

[@varnix1006]

​@@disgustof-rileytimes changed, the activism has completely infiltrated the studio. The people behind corporate disney are filled with vices.

[@DaMaster012]

"Don't stop putting your faith in the government, no matter how many times it lets you down, lies to you, and betrays you. You'll get your communist utopia if you keep voting for The Party, _we_ *_promise..."_*

[@DaMaster012]

@@disgustof-riley Disney started going broke because Nob Iger is a malignant narcissist who is addicted to spending money, and got Disney billions of dollars in debt buying Pixar, Lucas Film, Marvel, and ESPECIALLY Fox, so he turned to ESG hucksters like Black Rock and Vanguard, as well as the Marxist, anti-American Communist Chinese Party to bail him out, in exchange for making Disney become a propaganda mill to churn out their statist, collectivist, debauched, anti-human propaganda. Iger also threw open the gates of the magic kingdom to the hoards of woke degenerates (the kinds of people who are so hellishly hedonistic that they'll do things like militantly oppose legislation to make it harder for predators to prey upon children in public school) as a massive virtue signal to the freakishly far left movements of America, because he wanted to run from president, because Iger saw Trump do it and thought he could do the same himself. That's roughly what happened.

[@princeofdew8980]

Because disney is overrun by a certain kind of demographic who wants children (and us adults) to think like this, so we are easier to manipulate and tame.

[@andersonnunes6644]

A better idea: - The begining is the same, tragic story of the king, the girls being the apprentice, and the wish of her grandpa and the others not being granted. - Then she confronts the king, who try to explain that not every wish is a good one, but she is upset and don't wasnt tô listen. - Since she is being unreasonable, the king says that she can't enter the castle until she understand his point - She goes to town and tell to the people that the king is keeping their Wishes tô hinself and not granting Then, but to the people life is good the way It was and they Trust the king. - She is more upset now and lies tô her friends saying that the king is using the peoples Wishes to get Power and brainwashe everyone. - They decide to invade the castle, and during the invasion, one of the friends gets traped - They hear the guards aproaching and Asha decides to abandon the traped one. Some of the friends gets shocked by her abandoning a friend and decides to stay with the traped one and not follow her anymore. -Asha and the rest of the friends then reaches the "wishing Room" and the king appears. - A conflit begins and while the friends distract the king, Asha uses the Magic to grant everyones Wishes. - In the town, the people start to feel the Power of the Wishes getting granted (some get muscular, other get wings, breath Fire, some disapear, get beauty, ugly, etc) - ALL hells breaks loose and the kingdom is in chaos. The king tryes tô aproach Asha who is chaneling the Magic but is thrown back by the Power surge. - The Queen arrives with the friends who where abandoned, to help the king who was in the ground, the friends who was still helping Asha sees throug the windows the caos in the town and realize their mistake. - Everyone begs tô Asha that she stops, but she is intoxicated by the power and when the last orb of wish is granted there is an explosion of energy (Just for the cinematics) - Asha looks around expecting happy faces but is only greeted by looks of sadness and distraught and realizes that in this story she wasnt the hero, but the villain. Asha's family arrives to add to the drama and her grandpa ask what she did. - The king Then decides to use his last resort to revert the situation, but to perform such magic a sacrifice would be necessary and he is to weak. Asha's grandpa offers hinself as a sacrifice and do an inspirational speach, inspiring Asha and his friends to do better, thus having his wish granted. - Grandpa uses his life force to Power the Magic, everything goes back to normal, to pay for her crimes Asha has to help clean and rebuild the city and finally understand that not every wish is a good wish.

[@Masteur36]

i want this movie. We need this movie

[@fadillah6014]

One word for you, "Magnificent" 👏

[@petertukavkin9940]

i am mind blown from reading this actually sounds like something that disney could make back before the 2010 era

[@aliatar9325]

That could be amazing both in message and the story which could be developed

[@John_the_Paul]

In point 6; did you mean to say ‘trapped’ or ‘raped’? Because I feel like this is an important distinction.