What y’all don’t realize is that Goku’s shoes are truly the most powerful things Proof you say? Name me one moment where gokus shoes have taken battle damage
@ananijedzankic4 жыл бұрын
Fair
@bordyesco75044 жыл бұрын
Psykoh da1 epic lol
@ułttimate4 жыл бұрын
Against Raditz.
@elitewarrior12394 жыл бұрын
When he races against krillin
@Psyk0h4 жыл бұрын
elitewarrior 123 That doesn’t count, I mean his blue boots
@airy101clips25 жыл бұрын
Obviously it’s the earth it held up almost every fight
@Aerthkil5 жыл бұрын
Except kid buu
@taco4yearsagoedited5675 жыл бұрын
Arkilmore *almost*
@harikiran43395 жыл бұрын
Earth is stronger than we think!!
@josephkennedy29535 жыл бұрын
Barry in a nutshell ong
@stargazeramv4 жыл бұрын
hahahaaha
@manashejmadi4 жыл бұрын
Actually Mr Satan has Ultra instinct too. Remember when kid buu emerged and tried to attack satan and he started begging for mercy and dodging buu's attacks?😂
@InspectorChairLeg4 жыл бұрын
Nah man, he is actually beyond that, he has to be
@thestreets28174 жыл бұрын
Who do you think taught the GoDs? The angels just kept up the tradition! 😂
@statusburning41134 жыл бұрын
Kid Buu was just toying dude
@pleasedont74394 жыл бұрын
@@statusburning4113 that was just sarcasm dude.
@RJALEXANDER7774 жыл бұрын
Mr. Satan has a power beyond Ultra Instinct. He's a gag character!
@Aaron-cr9mx4 жыл бұрын
Bruh, it's obviously the camera man
@thesinofwrath0923 жыл бұрын
The Fastest Being
@bluelock7003 жыл бұрын
😂🤦🏽♂️😂
@justanotherlaid-backdude52973 жыл бұрын
Man how fast is that camera man, he is Literally in front of both UI and Jiren in the fight 🤣🤣🤣
@primalvelocity38113 жыл бұрын
Why does it have to be camera man? Why can't it be camera woman?
@user-kz1rh9bu5dАй бұрын
@@primalvelocity3811 bruh
@notyou14725 жыл бұрын
My brain says Mastered Ultra Instinct... My heart says Gogeta blue.
@donnabrahamworsley58575 жыл бұрын
𝙇𝙤𝙡
@Hayder6095 жыл бұрын
Exactly 😂
@giannisgiannoulis25645 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@TonyBro5055 жыл бұрын
Not You it’s obviously MUI goku
@Sazkarr5 жыл бұрын
Gogeta of course
@TheyWantMeGone695 жыл бұрын
If Ultra Instinct is stronger than Gogeta Blue, then Broly is weaker than Jiren Update: So let me update this after 3 years. After watching Super Hero, Vegeta's explaination of Jiren being so formidable because of a clear conscience tells me he could beat Broly. Now I think Broly is stronger but his mind is anything but clear.
@blitzkriegdiscord33665 жыл бұрын
Broly is weaker than Jiren. For now.
@TheyWantMeGone695 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's why I think. Broly is a formidable foe with raw power but he doesn't know how to control it. Where as Jiren does. So Broly has the potential to be stronger than Jiren. Hell he could master the god transformations.@@blitzkriegdiscord3366
@Young_Wrath5 жыл бұрын
@@omicron5128 lmao that was just a reward the whole tournament was a reward from the creators and broly might be stronger than beerus so he's above jiren and gogeta is way above that so
@blitzkriegdiscord33665 жыл бұрын
Eggs Benedict Cucumber Batch yeah that’s why Goku said at the end of the movie that he wanted to teach Broly some things. This version of Broly doesn’t have any real training outside of what Paragus knew. Imagine how strong he can be if he achieves SSGSS, which this Broly can achieve as he is pure of heart.
@TheyWantMeGone695 жыл бұрын
@@blitzkriegdiscord3366 Yep. The sky is not the limit
@nathansnively15374 жыл бұрын
Broly just isnt a good gauge for Gogeta Blue. Gogeta Blue straight dominates him
@mr.04743 жыл бұрын
Well its the only one
@mr.04743 жыл бұрын
Except for goku and vegeta who also fought broly
@mr.04743 жыл бұрын
@Anthony Torres wait but they did keep fighting but gogeta was too strong
@Kit_Kat_Catastrophe3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking, I mean if I recall the main reason Gogeta went blue was because he knew Broly had to be put down quick. The only other thing we have to even come close to "compare" is Heroes...and in Heroes Jiren was more amazed by Gogeta than UI Goku. (I know it's not canon but there really is no other comparison) so IMO we really can't judge which is better out of UI or Gogeta Blue
@Subarashii_Nem3 жыл бұрын
That just shows HOW much stronger Gegeta was. Look at it this way. In a fight where they had NO choice but to fuse to win, then once fused, Gogeta just straight up flexed on Broly until he got bored. UI Goku got fucked up by Jiren multiple times and only won because Jiren wanted to test his own strength and wanted to prove something more than win the tournament. If that wasn't the case, UI Goku woulda straight up lost. Gogeta on the other hand, had absolutely 0 chance of losing to Broly. None what so ever. So taking this into account, it's actuallt not a bad gage to show just how much more stronger Gogeta Blue is compared to Bluku and Blugeta. Also there was a line Whis says. Most people think of it as a throw away line but he says "See, you two can work together!" when he first see's Gogeta. He always implied that if they worked together, they would be more powerful than Beerus. So by this we can assume that Gogeta is indeed AT LEAST on par with Beerus. Making him at the very least, as strong as UI. Personally, I think he's stronger than UI when it comes to raw power. The thing about UI and MUI is it's not all about raw power, more about overwhelming speed. Since the body reacts automatically in both offense and defence, it's less about the pure strength and more about the overwhelming amount and unreadable attacks while being able to simultaneously avoid being hit. Gogeta literally BREAKS REALITY when fighting with Broly. Yes that can attested to the fact him and Broly are super strong and their combined power broke reality but Gogeta was HOLDING BACK in the fight as to not kill Broly. He had no intention of killing him. We can see this because when the Final Kamehameha just misses Broly due to the wish Chelai made, he's super relieved and happy. Conclusion: Raw power, Gogeta is stronger than MUI, Speed and battle prowess in general MUI is stronger. If they could go toe to toe, it will more than likely be a draw. But I have to give the edge to MUI since, unreadable and automatic attacks, plus Soul Punisher will not work on MUI since it only works against the corrupt of heart and Goku is the most pure of heart character in the series. Soul Punisher is one of the strongest moves in the entire series so it's a big loss not being able to use it. As a Gogeta fanboy, admitting this doesn't feel great but right now, we just don't know enough about Gogeta to make the claim he's indeed stronger than MUI but we know full well what MUI is capable of and the potential it has.
@indominusreags22784 жыл бұрын
Y’know Raditz was faster than light.
@kaiser18174 жыл бұрын
Hillbilly Reviews No..... he wasn’t, where the hell did you get that information from?
@googeeta61874 жыл бұрын
@@kaiser1817 watch seththeprogramer video on Naruto vs dragon ball
@callmemrtree63324 жыл бұрын
@@googeeta6187 or better watch dragon ball z when Raditz dodged Piccolo special beam cannon
@jordanjohnson94464 жыл бұрын
@@callmemrtree6332 he was in a full Nelson
@TheRealTaolf4 жыл бұрын
CommunistComrade1922 yes he was everyone has been that fast since beginning of Z
@chanceneck80725 жыл бұрын
What if Gogeta went UI??...
@wolfdraco59715 жыл бұрын
He would defuse in about 3 minutes...?
@roccocassara48775 жыл бұрын
@@wolfdraco5971 No you get the full 30 minutes with manga MUI
@roccocassara48775 жыл бұрын
@@wolfdraco5971 It doesn't eat up ki like SSJ3. Neither does MSSB, normal SSB does more than SS3 as does REGULAR Ssg if you don't conserve the aura with MSSJ
@edonprevalla15395 жыл бұрын
He one shots broly
@darren58105 жыл бұрын
I think it would last 30 seconds, but they would only need 5 or less to kill anyone ;)
@y.o.h.i5 жыл бұрын
U can't beat what u can't hit
@91niemela5 жыл бұрын
there really isnt an argument here, its MUI all the way period :)
@markdupree93525 жыл бұрын
CHIEF h But MUI was hit by Jiren....
@mlbdajoe56895 жыл бұрын
CHIEF h but you can hit him
@johnnykilroy37375 жыл бұрын
MUI got bodied until jiren tried to kill krillin
@sluut4tamales6235 жыл бұрын
Mark Dupree Toppo stated Jiren has been studying goku’s move in UI meaning he was already use to it as Jiren is a fighting genius. Also when goku got enraged Jiren never once touched him again and got completely dominated. UI also keeps rising, stated by piccolo, Whis and supreme kai. UI increased over 5 times within 15 minutes lol. Keep that in mind
@firstnamelastname32124 жыл бұрын
I love one of the first arguments/ "fact" 1. Gogeta wrecking broly And on the other side 2. GoDs standing up
@statusburning41134 жыл бұрын
Because UI is the I think the “LeGeNd” for the Gods and for Saiyans is “SuPeR sAiYaN”
@yvngjay39253 жыл бұрын
It makes sense they would give a standing ovation not many people can master led alone tap into UI
@firstnamelastname32123 жыл бұрын
@@yvngjay3925 fair, but I would leave it at that
@thetf81423 жыл бұрын
@@firstnamelastname3212 when you have a fucking huge spirit bomb which was stronger than blue Kaio-Ken x20 and the gods just say “the energy feels nice” compared to when goku mastered ui and having them give goku a complete standing ovation to him, yea that’s a fucking feat
@firstnamelastname32123 жыл бұрын
@@thetf8142 he just used UI it's crazy indeed, but for what it is, it's not enough
@rodricvanhauwerrmeiren47434 жыл бұрын
Gogeta is the type of guy that says: ultra instinct? yeah cool *proceeds to obliterate his opponent anyway*
@alberthgd3 жыл бұрын
Gogeta gansta until MUI Goku uses his susanoo
@happythanos66322 жыл бұрын
@@alberthgd exactly mui susanoo stomps ssb gogeta😂😂😂
@thughunter37282 жыл бұрын
Gogeta literally has glitter and uses rainbow attacks with sparkles Yet still the most badass character in dragon ball mindblowing
@flowsenpai99612 жыл бұрын
@@thughunter3728 LMFAOOOOOO def not cooler than goku using ui in all of his forms tho. He just looks so bad ass i cant wait to see him fighting opponents in base and dancing all over them!
@flowsenpai99612 жыл бұрын
@master why would I imagine that? And why would Goku shit if he can't exist at the same time as gogeta? You mean half of gogeta will shit when he sees himself?
@Daniel-lw8cp5 жыл бұрын
Boly was clapping friezas cheeks for about 62 min
@shaqpac515 жыл бұрын
Ayo 😭
@obayrafi26325 жыл бұрын
@Arexand that was the best scene
@themysticstar84855 жыл бұрын
Broly*
@Demoneye0975 жыл бұрын
@@themysticstar8485 Bally*
@Daniel-lw8cp5 жыл бұрын
@@themysticstar8485 i can do that too Broly*
@Tokouv4 жыл бұрын
Broly never touched Gogeta after he went blue...
@RyseOlympus4 жыл бұрын
No matter what this video says these guys are missing one solid fact..... goku is half of gogeta so they would have to cut the power scaling literally in half in order to be accurate. This a stupid comparison to begin with since it's a fusion of the same character this video is just pointless honestly lol
@SilenceStabber4 жыл бұрын
Broly is a rookie and mindless ape. Very sure Broly would never be able to touch UI Goku.
@SilenceStabber4 жыл бұрын
@@RyseOlympus It's not Goku vs Gogeta, it's Goku MUI vs Gogeta Blue. It's possible Goku MUI is stronger than Gogeta Blue by a HUGE margin, because the transformation itself is just insane.
@RyseOlympus4 жыл бұрын
@@SilenceStabber but you still would have to apply the zenkai boost to both vegeta and goku after the t.o.p and then stack ssb on top of that twice then magnify/multiply by atleast 50. Sorry but that transformation is nothing compared against gogeta. Plus you can use ultra instincts weaknesses which are it's time which is short as hell and the fact that goku has to dodge just like jiren used against him he made goku dodge into his attacks. Gogeta could definitely make goku do that since he's both goku and vegeta combined plus he has a time advantage since goku lasted atleast 5 min in MUI. Sorry but goku mui doesn't stand a chance fam gogeta knows the weakness and he knows gokus fighting style the fight is pointless.
@SilenceStabber4 жыл бұрын
@@RyseOlympus You're right about Gogeta knows Goku's fighting style fully... but you forgot that UI Goku has its own fighting style that resembles nothing to Goku's original fighting style. Gohan and Vegeta noticed very quickly when they saw UI Goku for first time fighting, it was very different. And sure, Gogeta has way higher powerlevel than Goku, but we know in ToP that it doesn't matter much. Suppressed Jiren has also a gigantic powerlevel, casually fighting SSBE Vegeta and SSBKK20 Goku at same time, he could one shot them at any time but he was just toying around. Even Beerus (and Whis) refused to give Potara ear-rings, because they fear Jiren would ring-them out together losing both Goku AND Vegeta. But regular UI Goku was able to close that gap solo... that's insane transformation. Not strange, because Goku learned UI basically from Whis... Whis himself said that UI basically makes you INVINCIBLE in combat, hence why Jiren with insane high power-level struggled taking down Goku's "invincible transformation". So Gogeta should, in theory, also unable to beat UI Goku, he can only drag the fight till Goku loses the effect. But don't say that only UI has time-limit... I'm sure you know that Fusions have also strict time-limit, Gogeta is not a Jiren. I'm sure 1 more SSB Kamehameha in movie and Gogeta would defuse against Broly. Unless you suggest Gogeta is superior to Vegito and they can stay longer fused...... but that's not proven and also just lame to think about.
@aubhrochakravorty33313 жыл бұрын
Gogeta's base form is stronger than goku and vegeta's ssb combined 😂. Gogeta ssb would murder ui goku.
@aubhrochakravorty33313 жыл бұрын
@Zyperium bruh watch the fight again, goku and vegeta had to retreat in their ssjb form against broly ssj1 and gogeta kept up in his base with a smile on his face.💀
@JJJJ-he8bz2 жыл бұрын
@@aubhrochakravorty3331 Gogeta actually got the upper hand on broly with just basic SS1 alone meaning his SS1 is thousands of times stronger than gokus blue and these idiots think Mui goku is stronger
@aubhrochakravorty33312 жыл бұрын
@@JJJJ-he8bz yeah, gogeta ssj2 can easily give mui goku a run for his money. Even broly with all the zenkai boost he got from his fight will make him go toe to toe with mui easily.
@JJJJ-he8bz2 жыл бұрын
@@aubhrochakravorty3331 I think his lower super sayain forms clap Mui. Moro arc beats Mui in base
@bidensniffed.myballs68944 күн бұрын
silly to even say
@deaganachomarunacathasaigh43443 жыл бұрын
Imagine how more powerful Broly could get with a few days in the room of spirit and time. And then give him Ssj God and let him train with Whis. He could probably beat Jiren, Cumber, Gogeta, Vegito and Merged Zamasu at the same time
@braymaxz6403 жыл бұрын
Nah he can't beat any of those...
@derallercoolste99993 жыл бұрын
@@braymaxz640 your brain = 🚮
@carlnico73312 жыл бұрын
@@braymaxz640 Maybe some of them, Jiren is probably gonna keep up a good fight, but i think broly get the W.
@braymaxz6402 жыл бұрын
@@derallercoolste9999Your pp= 🤏
@mrbens56082 жыл бұрын
No...
@JustinY.5 жыл бұрын
No men should have this type of power
@immortalmist6085 жыл бұрын
Found You
@hentai_haven5 жыл бұрын
Damn Bro, 370K Subs I'm waiting for your Gold Play Button at 1 Mil 👀
@andrewcoleman68575 жыл бұрын
Jealous much?
@deadtheories41705 жыл бұрын
Except Shaggy
@blackpow3r5 жыл бұрын
@@xem2476 HELL NO. WOMEN WITH POWER ARE DESTROYING EVERYTHING.
@hightidekraken5 жыл бұрын
Jiren vs Broly Vegito vs Gogeta MUI vs Fusion 🙄it seems the DB fandom is doomed to never get along.
@darthrevan4545 жыл бұрын
Nah it's just some people can't use their brains
@darthrevan4545 жыл бұрын
I mean someone really believes Broly can beat Jiren they're dumber than a rock. Broly couldn't kill Freeza in 2 hours. Jiren (who wasn't even trying to kill because you can't in the Tournament) almost deleted Freeza in less than 40 mins
@judekiv5 жыл бұрын
Darth Revan that’s a good point lol if jiren could kill he would end frieza almost instantly
@darthrevan4545 жыл бұрын
@@judekiv exactly!
@darthrevan4545 жыл бұрын
@@judekiv finally someone who uses their brain
@davion47774 жыл бұрын
Back in my days, fusions were the strongest possible beings and there was no doubt about it. Now...
@8-p3354 жыл бұрын
JasonOne now UI is stated to be the strongest god technique which makes it stronger than fusion
@LeThickBooty3 жыл бұрын
Lowkey miss those days 😐 no gods, no angels, no UI. Just the basic 3 super saiyan forms with fusion and mystic gohan on the side. Good times good times 😔
@LeThickBooty3 жыл бұрын
JasonOne ik
@jantheking70283 жыл бұрын
@@LeThickBooty I actually like UI and the concept of gods and a multiverse. One of Dragon Ball's best additions.
@LeThickBooty3 жыл бұрын
@@jantheking7028 the power scaling is disgusting tho
@rubygamer58134 жыл бұрын
Tbh people kinda lowball broly, he might not be Jiren but he still was suprisingly good at the movie now that I think about him, like : Beating up SSB goku, SSB vegeta, golden Frieza and gogeta until he turned SSB ( all at full health and stamina ) is worthy of being something placing him GoD tier or higher, and with SSB gogeta easily beating him up it’s just something that makes the argument harder Meanwhile Jiren fought against a weakened ( correct me if I’m wrong ): (He fought Hit alone and had time to recover) Vegeta, Android 17, frieza and goku, goku fought the pride trooper guys but they wouldn’t make much of a difference, sure Jiren is very strong but it took all of them combined to finally finish him off, it wasn’t just MUI goku
@ohwell1184 жыл бұрын
Remember mate, Broly fought (pummeled) Frieza for a full hour while the entire Tournament of power went for 45 minutes. Broly has amazing potential, but it is hard to gauge how strong Broly really is.
@franciscoaguilar25974 жыл бұрын
@@ohwell118 when people use Frieza vs Broly as an argument to say Broly is not that strong is really bad. People seem to scratch out that Frieza is extremely powerful, as well as having godlike level of durability. This was after the T.O.P., which one would assume Goku, Vegeta, and Frieza are so much stronger in DBS:B compared to Super's last arc. People jump the shark on the fusion scene, calling it random and out of nowhere for a seemingly "weak" Broly, even though he wasn't receiving a scratch from Goku and Vegeta blue in just ssj. If Goku really goes for fusion, his own full power and Vegeta's are not enough to even take Broly on. Goku is really gonna need UI to take on Full Power SSJ Broly. Otherwise, he's most likely going to be ragdolled worse than when Broly humiliated him in his ssg form. They are both easily dead without using unorthodox methods.
@user-th2wd7sy8g4 жыл бұрын
We still haven't seen him at full power, with any training, or unlock higher forms of LSSJ. Honestly imagine how many Broly would clap if he got his hands on some god ki.
@newhope57293 жыл бұрын
Broly is nowhere near the UI level..... And MUI is much much MUCH stronger........ So, he might become strong after training but I don't think everyone is gonna pause...... They will also get stronger..... And still.... Broly may remain weaker....
@Sora-ci1oo3 жыл бұрын
@@newhope5729 do u know that Broly is the Legendary Super Saiyan and the strongest saiyan right ? Remember that Broly only trained with his father that had like 4000 power level, imagine if he trained with Whis. Plus Broly has infinite stamina in a fight, the more he fight the more he will get stronger. LSSJ Broly is the strongest saiyan without fusion.
@carsonhartnett11055 жыл бұрын
Gotta keep in mind Beerus reacted to Jiren but didnt even move out of his seat for Broly
@ELSGaming5 жыл бұрын
Bad
@elchapo31815 жыл бұрын
Because his universe was literally going to get erased if goku lost. That's why he was like that with jiren.
@ELSGaming5 жыл бұрын
@@elchapo3181 no it was because jiren was actually a massive threat and he was stronger than his god of destruction. And btw jirens god of destruction was said to be very close to beerus on power levels.
@imani21145 жыл бұрын
@@ELSGaming that was never said.
@ShogunFear5 жыл бұрын
@@imani2114 Actually whis says hes stronger than him in the anime. Though the manga proves that may not be the case
@PlagueOfGripes5 жыл бұрын
UI is definitely the feat king, especially since it's the marketing flagship at the moment. They've been pretty careful about stockpiling info about it; going out of the way to not verbally scale during the Broly film, to Jiren or otherwise, seems to be a part of that. I imagine Beerus will slide up in scale as the story goes on too, even though logically they should be way past that point. Good video.
@supernerd57815 жыл бұрын
Your logic is completely sound, in my opinion Gogeta should be stronger but it makes sense from a marketing standpoint to make UI stronger
@jaihalai76745 жыл бұрын
Jack O Brien well they’re definitely pushing this as being stronger than fusions in blue form so it does make sense it’s just natural for forms to get stronger as the plot necessitates
@Zain-yy6bm5 жыл бұрын
which fight was better 1-goku vs broly?? or 2-vegeta vs broly?? Goku Vs Broly was long and better.....
@jaihalai76745 жыл бұрын
Legendary Productions That was omen and MUI is clearly beyond that form. Also the second omen UI goku trashed Kefla. Shaking the world of void is a greater feat than some buu saga looking dimension smashing shit that was for visual pleasure
@ZenRyoku5 жыл бұрын
@@Zain-yy6bm This may be my biased opinion because of Vegeta being my favorite character in any show/movie/anything...but MY BOI VEGETA GETS THE WIN on style points alone...💯 just his pure martial arts techniques and attacks not only being just pulled off looking more refined and tight...with his acrobatic prowess...and the savage spinning kicks sending Broly flying...lol plus with him knocking Broly thru the equivalent of the entire rocky mountain range... even tho Broly WAS much stronger when his fight with Goku (because his progression from fighting with Vegeta) but Broly giving Goku the most savage of beating Goku ever endured....(fukin throwing him around like a rag doll...including running Goku's face thru a couple miles of Ice...haha) ....and holy shit...straight knocking Goku unconscious from the level of Super Saiyan God... holy hell....knocking a God Ki levelled character out cold...omg... Goku's gonna feel that one for the rest of his lives...lol💯 i bet even Pan's future grandkids felt that one...haha 😄
@calebstephens60592 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Gogeta gets ultra instinct.
@DarthLord-eq5wp2 жыл бұрын
The entire universe would be erased just from the kamehameha's.
@jakdaxter60334 жыл бұрын
In my mind, if the fusions are a culmination of both Goku and Vegeta and then multiplied, then that would make both Gogeta and Vegito stronger than anything Goku and Vegeta could be on their own. From my understanding, the fusions have all the knowledge and techniques of both individuals at their disposal and then they have their power multiplied by god knows how much, plus the fusion is an entirely new being capable of coming up with their own techniques and stuff. I'd like to believe that this would, in theory, make them stronger than Goku UI. As for which fusion is stronger, i'd like to believe that in terms of raw strength since both of them are made up of Goku and Vegeta that they're basically equals. Not saying one can't beat the other, but if they were just measuring strength alone, they'd probably be equal.
@antoniosmith26102 жыл бұрын
Well I mean if Gogeta was able to use ultra instinct then of course he would be stronger because Then it’s a literally ultra instinct versus ultra instinct +++. But gogeta blue vs mui? Nah They wouldn’t make any sense
@cevapboj98802 жыл бұрын
@@antoniosmith2610 Right.... as if a Single Goku after the ToP could defeat a fucking Fusion of Goku and Vegeta post ToP. I really cannot fathom the logic behind people who claim that UI is Stronger than Gogeta
@@cevapboj9880 goku couldn’t tap into ui that’s the whole reason of them relying on fusion. ssb goku was trying broly before he went ssj. y wouldn’t goku use kaioken x20 on blue?!
@amantejohnson69162 жыл бұрын
Thank you it literally makes no sense that mui would be stronger than their fusions. None at all.
@harrysagamo73234 жыл бұрын
Gogeta Blue: Power and Strength MUI Goku: Speed and Technique
@harrysagamo73234 жыл бұрын
Kebabos The Kebab no gogeta is faster than blue goku and blue vegeta but not as fast as ui lmao
@santosh45194 жыл бұрын
Kebabos The Kebab i see that you have trouble reading what @harry sagamo said
@entertainmentvideos89734 жыл бұрын
Literally😂 lmao
@HolyLightofAngel4 жыл бұрын
@SonnieSlim1 it's not just a boost it's way beyond any God form Goku and Vegeta has ever obtained even beyond all Gods of destruction too it's an ability that rivals the angels and need an eternity of a hell of a training to obtain such an ability to reach the form. In Dragon ball heroes Goku trained under the Father of all Angels to just be able to reach mui on his own not master the form yet and surpass it do you know how much powerful is mui or you just are being stupid? Gogeta will not be able to beat mui on standard SS blue form that he beat Broly But with Blue and Kaioken on top of it like Gogeta Ssbkkx20 might be able to beat Mui Goku (medium difficulty)
@HolyLightofAngel4 жыл бұрын
@SonnieSlim1 I think you are trying to justify that you are wrong by confronting me nice try my dude but not smart.
@Jessergdl5 жыл бұрын
Your video is BS. Obviously Yamcha is stronger.
@NTGSonic5 жыл бұрын
Popo says otherwise
@scapetnt2705 жыл бұрын
Bro have you seen extra 1456 in the live action daze movie
@ImJhex5 жыл бұрын
That’s why there’s a LR Yamaha and not UI goku
@alexiavya7225 жыл бұрын
jesser 😤 freaking stupid heads for forgetting our lord and savior
@thatguy87775 жыл бұрын
@digital gamer_tv r/whoooosh
@yusukeurameshi36943 жыл бұрын
They need to bring back janemba and make him canon.... janemba was way underrated.... he literally morphed the entire universe just because he came into existence
@jamez32043 жыл бұрын
FR AND MAKE HIM STRONGER THEN JIREN
@aarongallardo36843 жыл бұрын
@@jamez3204 haha love that to happen
@drhater23183 жыл бұрын
TheRealBacon Lmao no
@jamez32043 жыл бұрын
@@drhater2318 lmao yes
@drhater23183 жыл бұрын
TheRealBacon Na that would be dum
@Gt_oanime3 жыл бұрын
When your strong enough To fight a fusion of yourself
@TotallyWixked5 жыл бұрын
Guys we all know who is the strongest character in dragon ball? Hercules : yes
@randomness54024 жыл бұрын
ᏓᏔ ᏚᎢᏌᎠᏆᎾ farmer with a shotgun
@majorjordan31334 жыл бұрын
Joke is old
@randomness54024 жыл бұрын
No u
@valentds4 жыл бұрын
hercules? what's this, disney? with the american name HERCULE, his original name is mr.satan, like videl is de-vi-l
@abstractassassin87674 жыл бұрын
What about the bird Goku revived?
@nigward93444 жыл бұрын
We haven’t seen Beerus at full power? Damn he must’ve held back even against all the other gods
@yutaoGOATsu2364 жыл бұрын
All of the strongest gods really didn't fight like belmod didn't really wanna fight and faked being knocked out and when beerus fought quitella he was already tired
@yeah87094 жыл бұрын
Yes but beerus himself hasnt mastered ultra instinct debatably we dont even know if he has it yet
@mementomori_77794 жыл бұрын
I hope beerus is made the strongest character except for the angles,grand priest and zeno of course.
@eridor4 жыл бұрын
Nigward They were talking about the anime, I do believe
@717jeezy4 жыл бұрын
The thing I didn't like about UI or MUI is the fact that it's clearly known that it's a technique and not a form , so where did all this new overwhelming power goku gained come from ? It's was supposed to be a technique of ultimate heightened sense of awareness and instinct, not another power up form like another level of super saiyan. So even tho goku can't activate MUI at will , shouldn't he at Least still have access to that enormous power ? Even tho MUI should've never been meant to be a power up . unless goku is still using the same amount of power he always had but then that wouldn't make sense as jiren was tanking attacks head on the entire time . or maybe once jiren had taken damage , he loses the durability to tank such attacks as he did before . like if vegeta would've hit jiren with that super charged final flash after getting knocked around from MUI goku it would've really done some big damage .
@jacobbhattacharjee28202 жыл бұрын
Broly : Hahahahha I'm canon now nothing can stop me Gogeta : Allow me introduce myself
@blaketindle47033 жыл бұрын
And now in the Granolah arc it seems that Beerus is much stronger than we were thinking at the end of the Tournament or Power. I don’t think MUI Goku would defeat Beerus yet. Still needs more training with Whis to perfect Ultra Instinct.
@tommymarquez46032 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t manga, Beerus have UI as well? But hasn’t mastered?
@kamrulazmi71342 жыл бұрын
@@tommymarquez4603 Beerus doesn’t have UI
@_xfuturetrunksx_2 жыл бұрын
@@kamrulazmi7134 Uhh yes he does
@kamrulazmi71342 жыл бұрын
@@_xfuturetrunksx_ no he doesn’t
@ZIONE1032 жыл бұрын
@@kamrulazmi7134 he does bruh he just hasn't mastered it.
@kevinishki4 жыл бұрын
Can't really come to a conclusion until Brolly and Jiren fight
@RodsTechout4 жыл бұрын
Kev this comment is so underrated
@esdrassalgado88504 жыл бұрын
Kev yeah that’s just as likely to happen as Gogeta vs vegito.
@kevinishki4 жыл бұрын
Lol well it's not impossible. I'm going to have high hopes when dragon ball returns. I'm sure they have been working on something. I hope lol. The manga sounds like its getting good. Waiting for the anime though
@esdrassalgado88504 жыл бұрын
Kev I guess never say never. I mean who would’ve imagined Gogeta vs Broly would’ve actually happen so who knows.
@kevinishki4 жыл бұрын
Right never say never. What would Goku say? Heck we'll probably see gogeta and vegeto fight first. Ss4 Goku and Ssb Goku already fought in heroes right lol
@BuddyBoy-ne1nw4 жыл бұрын
I think their strength can be gauged by the amount of shirt left on their chests. MUI Goku wins Edit: You know? On second thought, maybe Gogeta Blue is stronger. Oh well, the damage is done, already got my 1 thousand likes. Thanks bitches.
@darioplayz11114 жыл бұрын
top comment in the weong place lmao
@ZeroHeros_4 жыл бұрын
Lol gogeta doesn't have a shirt on
@darioplayz11114 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroHeros_ me:*goes naked in a busy street* iq:infinity pl:angel
@Yumemaru.4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@gamersforlife34404 жыл бұрын
@@darioplayz1111 nu u i see u want to c um yus
@bvici223 жыл бұрын
They messed up the fusion twice Piccolo says wait 30mins and try again... So Frieza got his ass kicked for a minimum of 60mins 😂
@sageqrt90533 жыл бұрын
Still he tries to kill broly's friends in the end of movie , with his death beam 😂😂
@user-jt5ug4kh4y2 жыл бұрын
Wrong. After fusion dance defuses, you have to wait for 1 hour. So it was 3 hours.
@bvici222 жыл бұрын
@@user-jt5ug4kh4y about 1year to late and your wrong if they messed up the fusion dance twice by your logic it would be 2hours not 3hours. Next is if the fusion actually only last 30minutes they can try after they defuse in 30minutes 🤦
@octah0085 жыл бұрын
I agree tbh. I'm pretty sure Ultra Instinct should be the pinnacle of power in DB.
@crayveonmiller38695 жыл бұрын
Octah best comment yet i agree with you everyone else is just insane lol
@justinreschke36425 жыл бұрын
The problem with that is that there is no pinnacle of power in DB. If that happens then the show is over.
@AnassLouisOfficial5 жыл бұрын
Justin Reschke ultra instinct is already stated to be the pinnacle. its the ultimate form that all the GoDs work to achieve and the angels and Daishinkan all have.
@justinreschke36425 жыл бұрын
@@AnassLouisOfficial But Zeno > ultra instinct And if goku was ever = to Zeno they would just make a villain that was even more powerful. Rinse and repeat.
@AnassLouisOfficial5 жыл бұрын
Justin Reschke mm , i never said that type of pinnacle lol. when i say pinnacle, i mean i believe dbs will end when Goku can tap into it at will. He’d have done everything the GoDs cant do at that point. Thats why he cant do it right now. He has to work to achieve it again. And a Blue Fusion is not the pinnacle or above Complete Ultra Instinct. If it was , he either should be able to tap into it on his own, or they should just fuse every antagonist that pops up.
@pacifistart5 жыл бұрын
Broly is the owner of cat beerus and came to earth to find him
@v9jaylen6265 жыл бұрын
most underrated comment
@brendankelly26535 жыл бұрын
Cat Beerus might flick Broly
@arielmunoz66525 жыл бұрын
Lol good one
@taco4yearsagoedited5675 жыл бұрын
Explains his rage, and why Berrus was clearly afraid to go w goku and vegeta
@nikoloniani5 жыл бұрын
@@darthrevan454 What do you mean? This is a very serious topic why would we be joking. Smh.
@ADSR.6822 жыл бұрын
Bruh This video was more about broly vs jiren than mui vs gogeta
@Awesmman4 жыл бұрын
Can I just say that the way geekdom asks for subs is amazing with the voices of different characters
@supremesage58595 жыл бұрын
Haha... Don't take this series (marketing) too seriously. It's dragon Ball messing up and confusing power scale as always. They had a chance with beerus' intro but messed it up.
@Zupermental5 жыл бұрын
comparing now battle of the gods... to this reckless OP is just kids play .. they did mess up the intro of beerus.. cant wait to see his FULL power
@MizukiDraws1235 жыл бұрын
And the fact that potara better than metamorphan fusion dance
@zacharywilliams45754 жыл бұрын
im not convinced ultra instinct is a new form because many different species can use it . i think its more like kaioken
@Random_Arabian_Guy4 жыл бұрын
I like that statement
@s.boundless31634 жыл бұрын
Goku transforms in order to use it. Kaioken causes no mutation to Gokus body, therefore not a transformation.
@zacharywilliams45754 жыл бұрын
Sheldon S. Does he really though? Is hair turns silver and that’s not even constant. And just like when he first used kaioken against vegeta he paid a massive price to his body at the end of that. Super sayain didn’t do that.
@s.boundless31634 жыл бұрын
@@zacharywilliams4575 His hair and eyes mutate. It's just as much a mutation as any super saiyan form. Kaioken doesn't transform his body at all, only a change in aura and causes severe draw back. Had UI not transformed his body in any way it could be considered a technique.
@GeneralRosity4 жыл бұрын
Its stated in the anime that ui and mui are techniques not transformations
@cotton12044 жыл бұрын
If you’re gonna sit here and pull information for your argument from “Super Dragon Ball Heros” then clearly y’all have no idea what you’re saying.
@Vexcation4 жыл бұрын
What other proof do we have to go off of? Jiren far surpasses broly at his current power and battle techniques and Mui beat the shit out of Jiren, broly has more potential for sure but gogeta blue had used one of his most powerful attacks that we know of, Going off of the broly movie is almost the same as going off of hero's.
@cotton12044 жыл бұрын
Wolf Heart cx Super Dragon Ball Hero’s isn’t canon. That’s why we reference the Broly movie, because it’s canon. Duh.
@Vexcation4 жыл бұрын
@@cotton1204 They are going of the Anime for MUI goku, The movie isn't the anime, nor is sdbh
@hankwiththedrip93383 жыл бұрын
Your Profile pic made my day bro
@rustyrattle5776 Жыл бұрын
The way I see it, Jiren = Broly and therefore Gogeta Blue > MUI Goku 7:18 I agree that Goku’s comparison between Broly and Beerus might be more so an indirect comparison between Broly and Jiren, as Goku doesn’t have a good gauge on Beerus’ power However, I interpret Goku’s statement as a way to place Broly essentially in the same tier as Jiren, because they’re warriors presumed of being beyond GoD level Sure, Broly only has some promotional material and what Goku said going for him, while Jiren was immediately hyped up as being above the GoDs. But, when you think about it, Jiren’s scaling is kinda dubious too: MUI Goku beats FP Jiren, and in the manga they’re at the very least on par with each other, yet Beerus is still portrayed as being stronger. Toyotaro outright states so, in fact. So, Jiren > GoDs, but MUI > Jiren and despite that, the GoDs (or at least Beerus) > MUI? Seems like a leap in logic to me I’m more inclined to think Broly and Jiren are roughly equal in power. Even Goku and Vegeta themselves place Broly and Jiren more or less in the same ballpark during the DBS Super Hero movie. They seem to have a similar narrative in terms of their strengths Gogeta should win against MUI Goku, going by this logic, because fusion did way better against an opponent in Jiren’s same weight class than MUI. Gogeta only showed a hint of his true power after he went Blue, yet Broly couldn’t even land a single hit, whereas the fight between MUI Goku and Jiren was not as brutally one sided. A minor argument is the fact Whis was fangirling all over Gogeta Blue, even seemed to be more excited at the fact Goku and Vegeta were working together than Goku mastering UI. It’s also unlikely Goku would be able to keep up with Gogeta for long seeing all the drawbacks UI still has
@av539 Жыл бұрын
facts 🙌
@carsonhartnett11055 жыл бұрын
Who else thought during the super bowl half time the beginning of sicko mode was broly landing in the stadium with the green meteor
@johnrildo23255 жыл бұрын
Who cares about the Super Bowl? I've got anime to watch!
@jediael99065 жыл бұрын
You
@thomass94984 жыл бұрын
Technically whis never said "jiren is stronger than all gods of destruction " he says hes stronger than "a" god of destruction. The gods of destruction all have separate power levels. You cant use that in the way you are. If you want to use quotes, use them properly.
@elijahlloyd234 жыл бұрын
Thomas S that’s exactly what I was thinking! Beerus even handled all the Gods at once. Crazy to think Broly is stronger.
@sixpaths664 жыл бұрын
@Anthony Sanchez its not because of his strength.its because he achieved a form that has prestige amongst them thats not easily obtained in their realm.
@sixpaths664 жыл бұрын
@Anthony Sanchez jiren may be more powerful than everyone but beerus as beerus has ui and enough power to one shot vegeta while hes using mssb in the manga.keep in mind that beerus is infinitely scaled throughout the series.
@sixpaths664 жыл бұрын
@Anthony Sanchez no im not saying that.but what im saying is the gods stood because this mortal achieved what they simply could not.not to simply marvel in his power.its a standing ovation well deserved.
@ImJasonD4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Gods didn’t stand because they felt Goku was stronger than them but more of a sign of respect that a mortal has achieved that level of power within a short time span. On numerous occasions when talking about Jirens power they have stated that he ‘may’ have surpassed a God of Destruction, not that he’s definitely more powerful than all.
@razielx62974 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see ultra Instinct vs Moro animated omg... 😍😍😍😍
@dallasneedsamedicbag82083 жыл бұрын
Yh lol it was just sad for him
@aidoist10 ай бұрын
I think we forget that Toriyama himself said that Broly is stronger than Jiren lol
@dabilboblakkins7325 жыл бұрын
Never let KZbinrs decide how you view a show. They're just people with recorders
@LoverzLane-5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you salty mui claps gogeta L
@guihiram19395 жыл бұрын
Dabilbo blakkins I agree on what you said but my argument for gogeta ssgss is that it’s kinda like the case with ss3 and vegeto in the Buu saga sure vegito couldn’t go ssj 3 just like gogeta ssgss can’t go ui but that doesn’t make it weaker simply because again it’s goku and vegetas power and more but I could be wrong so let me know if you disagree.
@dabilboblakkins7325 жыл бұрын
@baldy hardnut what you said is completely opinionated
@dabilboblakkins7325 жыл бұрын
@baldy hardnut there are other moments in dragon balls history that could be considered the greatest besides Goku achieving a new form.
@dimthelightsnowbaby76715 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha..... so funny
@RahulSingh-sd5jr5 жыл бұрын
Point to note- Gogeta Blue wasn't using nearly his full power while fighting Broly.Broly was completely wrecked and you can see in final shot of the fight he was actually scared of Gogeta Blue's Kamehame
@dealspeed67565 жыл бұрын
Exactly I don't think we saw what Gogeta could really do, To me Gogeta is the most bad ass character Iv'e seen yet, Well okay I admit MUI goku was incredible, I can't wait to see the english dub
@quanzaylundy73595 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily full power in blue but he's def using at least half or more.
@bhaveshkahaneable5 жыл бұрын
@@dealspeed6756 lol gogeta will defuse in 1 min in super if he uses SSB movie plot made them fused
@KwispyKage5 жыл бұрын
Also something to keep in mind, MUI Goku was fueled off of an exhausted and battle-worn Goku yet still managed to take on someone above God of destruction level, Gogeta had an hour rest before he came back to fight
@dealspeed67565 жыл бұрын
@Trex 2402 well said
@xvoidxhunter21293 жыл бұрын
The problem with Goku's statements in regards to Beerus is the level Beerus is supposed to be at is constantly getting higher. He went from initial God Goku being contestable with a suppressed Beerus to Beerus sweating at the idea of fighting Blue Kaioken x10 Goku in the U6 arc to where we are now where Beerus is still vaguely stronger or equal to Goku even still. It's weird to be sure
@apriljohnlayoso51212 жыл бұрын
well hearts said to gogeta blue '' with this power you can defeat even the omni king''
@blackpow3r5 жыл бұрын
MUI is definitely the strongest form. It cannot be controlled yet though. It's obviously the ultimate form for Goku and Vegeta to achieve to challenge Beerus and the deities. We got a glimpse of it in the ToP. Also Broly is the strongest individual mortal in Universe 7 present. So he is the mightiest currently without MUI Goku
@damurydah64965 жыл бұрын
Vegeta can't get ultra instinct and Neva will
@professornova12365 жыл бұрын
@@damurydah6496 Why not tho?
@DarthWombat5 жыл бұрын
It's not MUI. It's called completed UI, Goku hasn't mastered it at all!
@DragonoftheDarknessFlame5 жыл бұрын
@@damurydah6496 Yes he can. Anyone can achieve UI it's not about power its a state of mind
@Sun-cg6lv5 жыл бұрын
@@DragonoftheDarknessFlame he won't because it's not in his character Vegeta can't relax his body and Whis even states this many times
@samcapocyan81955 жыл бұрын
U know powerups have become an asspull when a character can be compared to a fusion of that character plus another
@Mpeace7775 жыл бұрын
Right? Who believes that UI Goku can beat Gogeta
@mrgamra88335 жыл бұрын
Endernoob Plays a lot of people
@theoc5115 жыл бұрын
Lmao 😂 it's laughable to think any 1 saiyan is stronger than a ssgss fusion
@mrgamra88335 жыл бұрын
Tiychristian Johnson true do
@TheDevlloyd5 жыл бұрын
Only comment that makes sense
@crichton3974 жыл бұрын
11:17 Save this. Put this in EVERY video. Dragonball fans need to hear this.
@smickothesmickest3 жыл бұрын
In that Dyspo episode they kept going speed of light speed of light Isn't that the same as that Blue Guys quote the Blue Guy in the Ginyu Force?
@Plotnwvziam4 жыл бұрын
Seth is that one kid in every group that believes he’s always right and uses sarcasm in every conversation
@marlonsalgado67194 жыл бұрын
Cuz u a broly fanboy?
@Plotnwvziam4 жыл бұрын
Marlon's vlogs but I like UI Goku
@marlonsalgado67194 жыл бұрын
@@Plotnwvziam my bad
@bigb26104 жыл бұрын
@@Plotnwvziam man your picture scared the heck out of me 😁
@Plotnwvziam4 жыл бұрын
Big B you dare call me ugly
@rumbata6965 жыл бұрын
MUI > gogeta blue jiren > broly for now
@Bigjay888885 жыл бұрын
Awakened jiren no doubt is stronger
@goober69er5 жыл бұрын
I think brolys potential is scary if they choose to follow that path
@SilenceStabber5 жыл бұрын
Jiren is always stronger than Broly, because Jiren keeps training and Broly most likely won't. Lets not forget, Jiren is also pretty similar to Broly, he gets stronger and stronger too in the Manga even after the limit. Jiren has superior fighting sence, and powerful body. But Broly has the Saiyan rage... not sure if this is enough.
@ryszardambrose5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, logically broly can't just surpass jiren just like that. The only way that could happen is through plot armor. Jiren is capable of improving as he did in the TOP, and unlike any of them he attained his power on his own. Goku would have never attained SSG if it wasn't for whis and beerus@@SilenceStabber
@jorvanlee12005 жыл бұрын
Dbsb hater
@ACE-777.2 жыл бұрын
People heavily sleep on Broly. He went from not being ssj level, to being above SSGSS in his base. Then quickly caught up to Gogeta, imagine if he actually trained. Every power level they hit, Broly quickly followed and overcame, but going SSJ2 to SSGSS Gogeta was to much of a gap, and he got absolutely speed blitzed before he can start adapting. Now I assume since he knows those power levels and went above ssgss in his base, he no longer needs to adapt, his base is forever gonna be ssgss level, so imagine once he trains and learns how to use his power, its over for almost everyone. I'm kinda glad they did it this way, to show he needs to get stronger too, if they didn't, they would have had to kill him.
@narutosensei774 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure when they're talking about the strongest of the strongest there specifically talking about between this the Saiyan race which is the strongest of the last remaining Saiyan race
@doomcriticalzx65544 жыл бұрын
The second you talked about heroes then your argument lost all credibility
@demipro75264 жыл бұрын
fearomar it’s not based on that they just used that they also talked about other pieces of evidence and arguments
@Gcarlooo4 жыл бұрын
Demi Pro yeah but non cannon evidence 😑
@goji87554 жыл бұрын
But they didn’t use heroes definitely they just said oh yea there is also that
@mariogamer64914 жыл бұрын
It's like bringing up GT or dbz broly, niether have any leverage
@WaveForceful4 жыл бұрын
All they said was even SDBH even implied that fusion is less powerful than MUI. Thats all.
@deadtheories41705 жыл бұрын
Shaggy with his 1% power 😎 clearly.
@bruceasiandude89795 жыл бұрын
Dead Theories if he stopped restraining 1% of his power, then everything is destroyed
@sarthakkarkera5 жыл бұрын
When are this jokes going to get old. I'm tired of this stupid jokes
@dripkuz5 жыл бұрын
@@sarthakkarkera don't make me call shaggy
@dripkuz5 жыл бұрын
@Asgore 9001 who says his level cap is infinity?
@PexceI5 жыл бұрын
@Asgore 9001 yall tripping. "100% of his power" is actually his 0.0000000000001% power, even lower. But we dont have enough digits
@bondoc57114 жыл бұрын
Also take into the fact that when Gogeta Blue and Broly fought, they broke some kind of reality barrier and were fighting in another dimension. That's a first...
@enigmafiresup46584 жыл бұрын
That's probably more for special effect then actual cannon
@thelastsaiyan62874 жыл бұрын
@@enigmafiresup4658 no cause in the fight ehen they break reality gogeta says huh showing that he noticed that they went some were else do its cannon plus kid buu and gotenks broke reality in the Buu saga so it should not be a surprise
@vcvbrrory22694 жыл бұрын
Buuhan broke dimensions
@ppnexus20004 жыл бұрын
Fused zamasu?
@rkz_46774 жыл бұрын
Lol World of Void was already a separate time-space domain, so it was not possible there.
@yusukeurameshi36943 жыл бұрын
And now that the new manga is out, we know that current ssb gogeta wouldnt do anything to moro, but mui goku is completely trashing moro... so now that moro is here we have an absolute power measurement proving mui goku is way stronger than ssb gogeta
@AyoGamerTV5 жыл бұрын
If Goku turned ultra instinct he would have destroyed broly
@youngdrako30335 жыл бұрын
But broly would have cought on
@yovecx64075 жыл бұрын
@@youngdrako3033 no he wouldn't
@youngdrako30335 жыл бұрын
Well only ssbk and ssbevolution
@shawnmurray505 жыл бұрын
@@youngdrako3033 Nah whis is pulling some ui moves on broly before gogeta pops up at some point and he didn't adapt to that either.
@DBacon2405 жыл бұрын
Swizz lol, while I think he would have put up a good fight, the only time UI worked was VS kefla, it failed both times VS jiren. Now I dont know if broly is weaker or stronger then jiren, but I'm pretty sure hes somewhat close to his level. So I think it's safe to assume mui would run out before he could finish the fight.
@lxfj21285 жыл бұрын
The reason they fused against broly is because any form vegeta and goku took out broly would match it because his power kept growing in power but When they fused into gogeta was to much of a power gap for broly to match in time
@nathanfitnessyt17415 жыл бұрын
They didn't have access to MUI
@allforonetv71765 жыл бұрын
During the movie goku transformation from god to blue you see MUI
@allforonetv71765 жыл бұрын
How?
@allforonetv71765 жыл бұрын
It even showed the glow the white hair
@thedutchwolf975 жыл бұрын
@@allforonetv7176 That's more of a transition point from one form to the other. You don't just go MUI and then go 'wait, nvm, I wanna go SSB instead'.
@azanzolo4 жыл бұрын
BTW DO NOT !!! include heroes in any CANON power scaling argument
@jonathanwang74564 жыл бұрын
And yet idiots say broly is stronger than jiren......
@chukwuemekachukwuegbo64814 жыл бұрын
For now.
@jaslblacklopez5 жыл бұрын
Comparing gogeta to MUI is like comparing Beerus to Whis. Whis is Ultra Instinct personified.
@ced2145 жыл бұрын
baldy hardnut more than a bit😂😂😂😂😂
@jaslblacklopez5 жыл бұрын
@baldy hardnut not at all. As if power scalinging even existed anymore. We don't even know if Whis is strong, all we have seen is that he can us Ultra instinct all the time. Beers even threatened to erase Whis at one time so we are just assuming Whis is strong.
@fovestrum88285 жыл бұрын
@@jaslblacklopez you remember the end of battle of gods?
@fovestrum88285 жыл бұрын
And it was stated by the creator of dragon ball himself
@jaslblacklopez5 жыл бұрын
@@fovestrum8828 I do. All was stated was that Whis was his teacher.
@notjust94265 жыл бұрын
What if gogeta came from the future and fuse with vegito DAMN
@Nygassso5 жыл бұрын
Gogito?
@supergoat15075 жыл бұрын
Omni king level?
@asianboij17705 жыл бұрын
His name can/ would be Vegeta
@originated7125 жыл бұрын
Orbit Xevi lol true
@soultrain16325 жыл бұрын
Probably grand priest level
@andycasler90563 жыл бұрын
And couldn't Gogeta attain MUI the same way he did blue?
@littyagain94023 жыл бұрын
Definitely not if Vegeta is involved 😂
@JJJJ-he8bz3 жыл бұрын
@@littyagain9402 vegeta doesn’t make goku weaker
@KirbyJet143 жыл бұрын
@@JJJJ-he8bz Correct, but that is stramanning. What he is trying to say is that Vegeta has a different state of mind than Goku and Gogeta has a different personality with different traits, so what says he can?
@chrisvandurme9254 жыл бұрын
Reading all the comments is always fun. I thought it was summarised really well. I don't know why people make the argument that because Gogeta is half Goku, MUI Goku can't possibly be stronger. It's such a stupid one. We don't know what the power increase is from SSB to MUI because even SSBKK was so outmatched by Jiren even fighting along side Vegeta in SSBE. Same goes for SSB Gogeta, Broly doesn't touch him so we can't know the extent of his power. But just the way the other characters interact with the two forms speaks volumes for me. Goku's MUI transformation shakes the world of void and has a standing ovation from all of the Gods. Beerus who was in awe of Goku during the T.O.P whereas he was chilling during Gogeta's appearance. Whis was thrilled and proud to see Goku achieve MUI whereas he casually says "oh look you guys can work together" to Gogeta. The gods strive to achieve Ultra Instinct, yet throw the Potara earrings to Kale and Caulifla like it's nothing. Just the reverence reserved for MUI says wonders at least to me. MUI Goku, more impressive feats and revered by the Gods. I'm gonna go with MUI until Super is back and we see Vegeta with an MUI beating technique.
@mr.artichoke4 жыл бұрын
Here's the thing: I too think that MUI is way more hyped up, and definetly more deserving of being stronger. The buildup, execution, reactions, etc. But. Fusion is still another level. First of all, Beerus didn't actually see Gogeta and Broly, he just says "Guess they managed something" after he noticed Brolys power signature vanishing. Whis also called Gogeta's peformance "Truly magnificent", or just subarashii in the sub. Here's the difference in reaction between fusion and MUI. Everyone was so incredibly in awe by Ultra Instinct simply for the fact a mere mortal attained it in such a short time period (remember, the tournamet was only 45 minutes), something that has been absolutely unheard of so far. Meanwhile, Whis very well knows how strong fusion is, so he has no reason to be surprised by their overwhelming display of power in that state. The power scaling thing is an interesting topic. Yeah, Jiren beat up SSJBKK and SSJBE (initial) rather easily, but it's not like it was absolutely nothing for him, he had to power up more , and showed more power than he has before. Here's the thing: People don't have to be 50 times stronger than someone to beat them like it's nothing. Remember, in the Frieza saga, SSJ Goku was only 20% more powerful than FP Frieza in the end, and basically ended the fight with a single gut punch. Furthermore, Gogeta in his SSJ form was already much stronger than SSB Goku and Vegeta combined, seeing as he dominated SSJ Broly. If you'd ask me, I'd put Gogeta's SSJ in the range of SSJBKK x10-20 Goku. We have no idea how big the difference between SSJ and SSJB, and the difference between SSJB and MUI is. But if you ask me, it's hard for me to believe that the latter is bigger. I could go more in depth about this power scaling if you want me to, hit me up. I've seen alot of these debates, and see alot of people referencing what people said, such as Goku saying "You might be as strong as Beerus" to Broly, using this to try and prove the point that Broly is much weaker than Jiren, which is a whole nother debate and not the point at all. So sure, I'll quote Goku aswell. Goku literally said "Fusion is our only hope to beat this guy". So uh yeah. Anywho, interested to see your reply, hit me up! Debating is fun.
@darknessemblemflame30364 жыл бұрын
YOOOSSHHHAAA ! I agree with you for the most part. But when you said you put Ssj Gogeta at Ssbkx10-20 I had to stop. Ssj Gogeta is very much beyond both Ssbkx20 Goku and Ssbe Vegeta. I mean the dude in Base is at the literal minimum Blue Level and that’s excluding the fact that he himself stated that his power exceeded Ssb Goku and Vegeta combined in Base
@cameronpuckett86795 жыл бұрын
I thought this was a dokkan card comparison 😂😂
@alexiavya7225 жыл бұрын
Cameron Puckett 😂 lmao understandable
@BngelKazam5 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a xv2 one lol
@renegade_91735 жыл бұрын
😂😂 Gogeta blue all the way as far as dokkan goes
@jaggy_boi5 жыл бұрын
Well if this was dokkan no question gogeta blue🤣
@wiserlegacy30175 жыл бұрын
until we get either an LR MUI Goku and LR Gogeta Blue, then currently Gogeta Blue takes it over MUI Goku.
@AaronDbs4 жыл бұрын
How about Gogeta blue smashed hearts and broly without even touching him I think DB is a mess about power levels
@brokentoaster22954 жыл бұрын
Db Heroes isn't even canon dummy dumb, they try to make everything op like a 12 year old's imagination of a fight
@Dave-rf7yk4 жыл бұрын
I mean ssj2 kefla can compete with ui goku so I'm pretty sure blue gogeta is superior or else this is all bs
@Dave-rf7yk4 жыл бұрын
@@brokentoaster2295 .
@jtb98693 жыл бұрын
Dave Novoa she couldn’t compete😂she couldn’t even touch goku and that was only goku second time in ui. And remember that was ui omen, mui is way stronger than ui omen
@Dave-rf7yk3 жыл бұрын
Goku HAD to go ui omen to beat kefla. That's what I'm saying
@DragonBallzMoviesHD3 жыл бұрын
Mui Goku is overwanked 😂😂😂. Gogeta shitstomps
@theshermantanker70433 жыл бұрын
Gogeta Blue has vastly more raw power for sure but MUI definitely seems faster
@risky-JP2 жыл бұрын
@@meradeen7868 no
@lostbeans29195 жыл бұрын
If you think about it gogeta has never really struggled in a fight
@ghastlyghost25425 жыл бұрын
He was shown once on screen after a massive zenkai boost after the tournament. You sir are braindead
@neonkyle19235 жыл бұрын
Thanos so
@SuccessfulSuperstar5 жыл бұрын
The only times he was shown were the movie and now so he doesn't have any screen time to prove this
@bradstorey26865 жыл бұрын
Has MUI goku really struggled though?
@Honest-King5 жыл бұрын
@@bradstorey2686 Yes i think he did
@DaFlash475 жыл бұрын
*Farmer with a shotgun is stronger than both*
@Cookie-gw1vv5 жыл бұрын
This needs to die already .-.
@kingleeq45615 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha My man 👏👏
@roundrobin95975 жыл бұрын
Shaggy could beat them at 0.17% of his power
@iamjustlegs5 жыл бұрын
HEY YOU! Genius Farmer, GENIUS!
@dragkuneesaku54195 жыл бұрын
@@roundrobin9597- You are wrong boi. Shaggy has no real powerd lol. UI doesnt give powers. UI Goku beats UI Shaggy and Gogeta Blue also beats UI Shaggy. Heck I could be UI Shaggy.
@chrisr34644 жыл бұрын
It lost me the moment I heard "normie argument." 😂😂😂 OK bro, scaling anime is super cereal biz got it.
@newhope57293 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@d4r4m53 Жыл бұрын
the way you guys downplay Gogeta is crazy
@damianpriest1965 жыл бұрын
Jiren is stronger than Broly. MUI stronger than Gogeta. I think it’s pretty obvious.
@dangerdave21dumb795 жыл бұрын
luca14t Fusions make it weaker doesn't it?
@dangerdave21dumb795 жыл бұрын
Jonah Trill If you say it is pretty obvious full power is not actually gonna work.
@metallord75045 жыл бұрын
Its good to see mid 20s classic dragon ballz fans then seeing 12 yearolds
@nilsoncuz89435 жыл бұрын
We don't know if jiren if strongest then broly I think broly is stronger than jiren they need to fight tho so we know who stronger
@sibl46895 жыл бұрын
Broly got clapped by a ssb fusion if goku went mui he would have gotten deleted
@afist55955 жыл бұрын
Everybody saying that broly was beating frieza for 60 minutes but when gogeta joins the fight you see broly fighting whis, so at some point frieza probably stopped getting thrashed by broly
@-a-60064 жыл бұрын
Gogeta blue is confirmed to be stronger officially. In dragon ball warrior sticker pack which is an official source and mui goku has power of 9600 but blue gogeta has a power of 9800. Broly was 9500 and jiren was 9600.
@shonenhiroxd4 жыл бұрын
Wait, a sticker pack is an official source? And why are these numbers just in the 9000s? Where the hell did you get this info from, can you send a link talking about this nonsense?
@johnnykallon26544 жыл бұрын
music time Dragon ball power levels have to be way passed the trillions I don’t know wtf you mean by 9500,9800 ect
@LavaCreeperPeople3 жыл бұрын
link
@davidmorel373 Жыл бұрын
The only way Goku is beating Gogeta is by hiding for 30 mins.
@beanhead5398 Жыл бұрын
Just no
@darknessemblemflame3036 Жыл бұрын
Gogeta slams
@hamza3615 жыл бұрын
Goku wasn’t pushed far enough in DBS Broly to go ultra instinct lol MUI is just another league of power.
@dug40955 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@countengladx71565 жыл бұрын
Cuz Goku and Vegeta are waaaaaay above the level of power they were at during the TOP arc
@CertainlyCynical5 жыл бұрын
countenglad x how do you know that? That’s more than likely false, they’re probably just slightly stronger post top
@Grizzle28945 жыл бұрын
I see people say that but goku literally grabbed vegetas hand and ran away in the movie. How exactly was he supposed to get pushed far enough for UI if he doesn't stay in the fight? And who's to say jiren would've done it if goku was allowed to retreat and regroup in TOP?
@nothingspecial81145 жыл бұрын
Hamza Adrees Goku didn’t even face a super saiyan broly for more than like 1 min of screen time so ofc he wasn’t pushed far enough. He didnt even face a full power broly
@ihateeveryone81615 жыл бұрын
Lets not forget also the Whis stated in the Resurrection F arc/movie that if Goku and Vegeta worked together, they could defeat Beerus, and they were alot weaker in that arc than they were against Broly
@shawnmclaughlin58865 жыл бұрын
He was talking about fusion. That's why in the movie whis says.. ahh you two can work together I see...after the fusion.
@BKK8715 жыл бұрын
Shawn Mclaughlin no shit that's his point
@jermainekngdom31545 жыл бұрын
Whis lies alot. His words shouldn't be taken at face value
@abdullahhardy87995 жыл бұрын
SomeoneSomewhereInaPlace WHIS did not!. WHIS said they can give BEERUS! A GOOD FIGHT!!. Watch that episode again
@abdullahhardy87995 жыл бұрын
Joshua Johnson 😂😂 yo WHIS switch up stories a lot! And he always instigating in alotta bullshit!
@DarthKamui2 жыл бұрын
It depends on how great the UI power amp is and how far above it is compared to Super Saiyan Blue Goku. Super Saiyan Gogeta, and more than likely Base Gogeta, are stronger than Super Saiyan Blue Goku. Then Super Saiyan Blue is in a different dimension of power from Super Saiyan.
@primalvelocity38112 жыл бұрын
Base Gogeta alone is stronger, and more powerful than Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x20 Goku and Super Saiyan Blue Evolved Vegeta, Post-Tournament of Power. Ultra Instinct Goku isn't beating Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta.
@DarthKamui2 жыл бұрын
@@primalvelocity3811 I don't think UI Goku is beating Gogeta Blue either, but how do you know that Base Gogeta is stronger than Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x20 Goku and Super Saiyan Blue Evolved Vegeta?
@primalvelocity38112 жыл бұрын
@@DarthKamui Because Goku and Vegeta didn't even bother tapping into Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x20 and Super Saiyan Blue Evolved against Super Saiyan Broly, they just immediately retreated to go fuse. Goku and Vegeta were much more confident with fusion, a base fusion, at that, than they were with Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x20 and Super Saiyan Blue Evolved. Base Gogeta was confident against Super Saiyan Broly, dodging his attacks effortlessly with ease while smiling, meanwhile Goku and Vegeta weren't confident at all, and knew they were outmatched in every way. This would place base Gogeta above Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x20 Goku and Super Saiyan Blue Evolved Vegeta, scaling wise.
@DarthKamui2 жыл бұрын
@@primalvelocity3811 That actually goes well with my head-canon Fusion Power-up which is the Strongest of 'A' + the Strongest of 'B' × 100. In this case, it would be Super Saiyan Blue Goku (Max) + Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta (Max) × 100 = Base Gogeta. I don't count Blue Kaioken or Ultra Instinct because Goku is going beyond his natural/normal maximum, but you could add in Super Saiyan Blue Evolved Vegeta instead of normal Blue because that's more natural, but it's not his "normal" maximum power.
@DarthKamui2 жыл бұрын
@@primalvelocity3811 That's just my head-canon based on dialogue and source material. It shows how much of a beast Gogeta and Broly each are.
@generalsagmandia82393 жыл бұрын
Personally, I believe that Ultra Instinct has a weakness. The ability to attack and defend without thinking about it is limited by how fast your limbs can move (your speed). Your speed is dependent on your power level. In other words, if someone is faster than you, even if you block without thinking about it, your enemy's attack will still hit you because their speed is faster than yours. This is why the Grand Priest (who knows UI) has one of the top 5 battle powers in all the universes. This means having UI is not enough - you still need to have a high power level to use it correctly. This is why if UI Goku fought Whis, Whis would beat him easily. Whis has a higher power level (and therefore higher speed) than Goku. Both of them move without thinking, but Whis's limbs can move faster than Goku's and Goku loses. Sooo...basically, if Gogeta Blue has a higher power level than UI Goku, he will beat him.
@sharifali24863 жыл бұрын
Bro Jiren has way more high power level than goku , according to your logic then MUI goku will not be able to defeat him but he defeated him birather 😄
@generalsagmandia82393 жыл бұрын
@@sharifali2486 Actually, no. Whis told Goku and Vegeta that they don't fight at their true potential because they think before they move. This means their fighting speed is slower than it should be. When you combine Goku unlocking his true fighting speed along with the power boost UI gave him, it makes sense that Goku would beat him easily. In other words, once Goku achieved MUI, his power level was *higher* than Jiren's - so he won.
@LavaCreeperPeople3 жыл бұрын
@@generalsagmandia8239 CUI goku is stronger but Gogeta wins i can explain why
@generalsagmandia82393 жыл бұрын
@@LavaCreeperPeople Okaaay? How?
@deadtrollz65333 жыл бұрын
@@generalsagmandia8239 Read the manga bro Goku has already mastered ultra instinct Lol
@JetFireX5 жыл бұрын
theres no point in trying to powerscale in super
@lynxfresh52145 жыл бұрын
Agreeded, I like Beerus (in fact he's my favourite character introduced in DBS era) but he's honestly a power scale plot device... :/
@NightmareGamer1095 жыл бұрын
This is so true it hurts
@someguyonline60275 жыл бұрын
SteelViper that is appeal to ignorance which is such a sad normie argument which EVEN in dragon ball z they even talk about in the video so suck it!🤣
@ant36025 жыл бұрын
Said no true db fan ever
@brolybanderas425 жыл бұрын
Why not? Explain it with detail, you just made a claim, now prove it.
@carsonhartnett11055 жыл бұрын
Bro honestly seth the programer is the goat, love seeing him on these debates Edit: kinda forgot MJ was in this video
@disposable_hero17255 жыл бұрын
more like Seth The NoNamer
@carsonhartnett11055 жыл бұрын
KingOne how, he still is prominent in the community and is well trusted by geekdom
@Kobalt_Rax_the_one5 жыл бұрын
He is good over all i guess but he dose make big mistakes too imo , like that old broly vid where he is put above fussion reborn power levels or Jiren is above all gods of destruction ? c'mon
@jmcconnor013 жыл бұрын
goku and vegeta flying away to fuse was weird, but it was worth it to get that hilarious frieza stuff
@myji777 Жыл бұрын
Gogeta is most definitely stronger than Goku
@andrewwilson23825 жыл бұрын
They didnt have to "see Broly crush those limits" bc goku and vegeta both agreed they *together* couldnt handle broly at all so they HAD to fuse.
@ericstaples72205 жыл бұрын
They didn't even try to fuse against Jiren.
@commentstealer44604 жыл бұрын
@@ericstaples7220 because they would still lose
@ericstaples72204 жыл бұрын
@@commentstealer4460 If that were true, they wouldn't have bothered fighting him individually either, but they did.
@commentstealer44604 жыл бұрын
@@ericstaples7220 lol or the writers wanted goku to beat jiren . But ofc mui is stronger than fusion . Because as we know ssb kk ×20 is nothing to jiren that even in his surpressed state managed to make goku kkx20 blue look like krillin but mui goku made jiren full power look like krillin! Jiren the mortal above a hakaishin . Jiren even needed to powerup beyond his full power to stand a chance . that means that mui multiplier is so op and huge . Kkx20 and ssbe vegeta didn't do shit to a supressed jiren . That alone shows how much of a powerup UI is . Ssb gogeta wouldn't win vs jiren . Ssb gogeta might be as strong ( vegeta ssbe + goku kkx20)
@ericstaples72204 жыл бұрын
@@commentstealer4460 Goku didn't beat Jiren, though. And Broly shurgged off attacks from Mastered SSB Goku as well.
@xem24765 жыл бұрын
*I STAND WITH VIC*
@dannyboi72165 жыл бұрын
Geekdom doesn't
@pinkdoe17255 жыл бұрын
@@dannyboi7216 proof
@xem24765 жыл бұрын
@@dannyboi7216 Why? What has Geekdom said?
@dannyboi72165 жыл бұрын
If you don't want to click on the link then here is how it goes. Geekdom is now in support of these supposed survivors and has decided to block anyone in support of Vic. (This can be found in the thread of the link). The person who was blocked didn't even make a rude remark, he just didn't agree with him.
@xem24765 жыл бұрын
@@dannyboi7216 Where is the link?
@anthonyjacksonjr48122 жыл бұрын
Goku UI is basically the best fighting technique right now. Even a God Fusion can't measure up to it.
@gibbous39314 жыл бұрын
Alright Mr.Gogeta. I will subscribe to this channel... IN ANOTHER UNIVERSE *Then proceeds to jump through some random portal as I fall on my ass trying*
@darthgeist39665 жыл бұрын
I find your logical, deductive reasoning to be utter horseshit. 1: Hakaishin is not a Tier; it’s a Job Class. 2: Jiren is never stated nor implied to be stronger than all Hakaishin. Only Belmod. 3: The DBS manga shows Beerus outclassing all the other Hakaishin before the tournament starts. 4: Heroes holds no weight whatsoever. And the promo for the game would imply Merged Zamasu being stronger than Cumber, and shown alongside DBS Broly fighting Blue Gogeta. Implying they are just as strong as Merged Zamasu at that moment. 5: Broly movie does not mention Kefla and Jiren by name; but were shown as figures for Gokū to surpass, before he knew who Broly was. So they were referenced. Which can give credence to Broly being stronger than Jiren since Gokū stated their only way to win the as Fusion. Whereas in the Tournament both he and Vegeta rejected that idea and wanted to beat Jiren with their own individual strength. 6: The Broly LN stated that Broly stopped attacking Freeza when Freeza had been ko’d. Which would show that Freeza wasn’t getting beaten on for a solid hour, and Whis intervention also implies that he’s been there to keep Broly distracted during those points while waiting for Goku and Vegeta to get the fusion done correctly. 7: Beerus was not afraid of Gokū using UI. He was just pissed that a mortal was able to use it so soon. And by the end had a challenging look when seeing MUI Gokū, suggesting that Gokū is strong enough in that state to give Beerus the right he’s been craving for millennia. 8: Not everything Whis says is credible. A number of things he says are done either to take jabs at Beerus and mock him or to motivate Gokū so he can see how Gokū will improve. It doesn’t mean Whis was being truthful.
@radicalbish73455 жыл бұрын
Exactly, you seem to be the only one with a brain. Everyone blinded by how cool the "technique" was.
@derrickwoods15955 жыл бұрын
I knew there was someone in here that was intelligent. You should post this everywhere
@vovabars12345 жыл бұрын
@@radicalbish7345 and dude,UI is not a tecnique.If it was a tecnique,Goku would never inflict any damage on Jiren(especially LB Jiren) Also hair color would not change
@radicalbish73455 жыл бұрын
@@vovabars1234 It is technique just like Kaioken is. Or you gonna tell me Kaioken is an actual transformation... Plus I even put the quotation marks because it's still pretty vague.
@ihatespaggeti62415 жыл бұрын
Darth Geist agreed I mean Goku needed omen to defeat an ssj1 level fusion ssj2 tired goku ssj2 caulifla and lssj kale kefla=kale lssj and Caulifla ssj2,which omen goku needed full power kamehameha Goku ssj1 and vegeta ssj1>kale and caulifla Gogeta ssj1 and broly>=base jiren and UI Omen Goku now if people believe the difference between omen and MUI is hugger than ssj1 until blue thej LOL
@Tatsumaki_Uchiha5 жыл бұрын
Just yall wait till Broly trains with goku 😈 souls will be harvested sir
@tracenadams25665 жыл бұрын
If they give Goku some asspull to make him stronger than broky
@tracenadams25665 жыл бұрын
*broly
@Tatsumaki_Uchiha5 жыл бұрын
@@tracenadams2566 😂 I'd be fine with that. I just want broly to stay relevant and hang with the squad in terms of power
@tracenadams25665 жыл бұрын
That’s true
@theofiloshatzigiannis53085 жыл бұрын
@@tracenadams2566 By your logic everything they achieve is asspull
@missaelomar22494 жыл бұрын
A fusion Will be stronger than both fighters at their maximum power, stated by toriyama. This meaning that base gogeta and vegito are stronger than goku's and vegeta's ssb powers combined. So there is absolutely no way that MUI goku is stronger than ssb gogeta
@jaybud4004 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who has common sense lol
@hammyboy24174 жыл бұрын
Toriyama's information is so iffy it's insane. He even admitted that he thought that super saiyan was a 10x multiplier but changed his mind when fans started going with a 50x multiplier.
@gabrielpolanco96174 жыл бұрын
Based on the fact that Jiren obliterated Kale (who is Universe 6's equivalent to Broly) with one blast, is fair to assume that Jiren is stronger than Broly and thus, MUI Goku is stronger than Gogeta.
@thelastsaiyan62874 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielpolanco9617 broly is much stronger than kale so that makes no sence
@gabrielpolanco96174 жыл бұрын
the last saiyan how can you even prove that? They are literally the same character. Sure, Broly was angrier in the movie so you can argue that he was a bit stronger, but they're both inexperienced fighters when it comes to fights against people the likes of Goku and Vegeta. And when Kale was berserk, she received a Kamehameha from SSB Goku directly and literally did nothing, so that's pretty equivalent to the power level of Broly in the movie. So if you substitute Kale for Broly, you're still getting the same fighter and Jiren literally destroyed the Legendary Super Saiyan (IN BERSERK MODE) with one blast without even being at full power. And not to mention, Kefla is arguably as strong (if not stronger) than Kale in berserk mode, and she couldn't even touch Goku in his Ultra Instinct Omen stage.
@optosensei22333 жыл бұрын
Gods Stand up for MUI, that’s enough for me
@wanilimbe3 жыл бұрын
Gogeta and Broly warped reality
@conductoid03083 жыл бұрын
@@wanilimbe Ui goku Supressed amazed the grand priest,zeno,angels,made gods stand to respect him and made the cosmos and reality and the whole world of void shake
@wanilimbe3 жыл бұрын
@@conductoid0308 Only because a mortal achieved Ultra Instinct, not because of sheer power and that cosmos and reality bs is FAKE. Toppo warped the World of Void, which is infinite space
@jsousaa19793 жыл бұрын
Gogeta went into another dimension fighting broly...
@conductoid03083 жыл бұрын
@@jsousaa1979 What bullshit are you talking about?
@ProfessorDubs5 жыл бұрын
WHERE IS VIC
@ProfessorDubs5 жыл бұрын
I know. Does he know it even happened? (Rhetorical question)
@omiorahman62835 жыл бұрын
Frozen don't ask geekdom he has a family the hounds will eat him up regardless of what opinions he gives. Ask me instead or anybody safe from industry in that matter.
@ProfessorDubs5 жыл бұрын
Omio Rahman nah man this is something Danny NEEDS to cover. You don’t understand.
@omiorahman62835 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorDubs powerful and people are involved. This is a thing used in different companies based on experience. Women and men target a rich person women usually a prostitute seduces the target or gets him in compromising position and then files harassment case. For example a man is walking on the road a girl pushes his phone and then claims he groped her, I have seen this happen in the streets. It's a tactics adopted from communist and Marxist. You need somebody with 100 speech points to deal with this blackmail and extortion party. And politicians both sides take a share of the hush money too. It's business .the journalist and key board warriors take a share the guys defending takes a share. The simps do it for free 😂. Both political sides does this. You want some body brave enough to cover this, look at yellow flash
@omiorahman62835 жыл бұрын
@@TommyGuy1988 it's easy to say but we can't feed geekdom and his family if he does stand up to whatever the hell is going on here(extortion business) .morever corporations would avoid him in future since he would be a dangerous person and kind of a whistle-blower if he stands up. The only way he can get paid after protesting if he becomes controlled opposition or something. Military folks have a chance since they are trained and most I have seen knows how to debate and argue. Civilians on the other hand are untrained and have to be more intelligent ,powerful,richer and stronger than their rulers or this players in this scandal, if they want to find a solution that helps the victim . An expert on office politics could find a way as that kind of stuff happens on the workplace quite often