HEMI TICK Explained (Easily) - The Cause and How to Diagnose

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Check out second video on the HEMI Tick for more info - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYCrZXd5hNNjq9k

[@redneckhillbilly8788]

Hey I got a 07dodge ram hemi would changing the oil every 5000k help reduce the chance of the hemi tic ? (Bad cam and lifter)

[@YKadventures]

@@redneckhillbilly8788 Nope. I have a 2010 and I change the hell out of the oil on average every 6 months and 2500 km's. Issue arrived regardless.

[@pull-up-onmeh5138]

What if we use a additive to the oil or maybe a sticker oil, would that help?

[@RichardRhodes-nv7fs]

Ok so here we go, bought this truck about idk 7 months ago maybe and it was fine but then of course right now today this engine is the 5.7 and guess what the tick has started its right at 219, miles and it has always been taking care of the engine and the truck so yea I'd say this is definitely something that should be recalled but then WE ALL KNOW THAT NO CAR MANUFACTURERS ARE GOING TO TAKE IT ON THE FACE AND SAY YEP WE SCREWED UP BLAH BLAH SO I SAY TAKE THEM ALL AND RUN THEM ALL AND SCRAP THEM DNT BUY ANYMORE LET THEM SIT NOMATTER HOW GOOD A DEAL YOUR THINKING IT IS YOU GET 1 AND YOUR GOING TO ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE LIFTER ISSUE REGARDLESS OF ANYTHING YOU DO OR TRY AND DO.

[@reckemroysrc3764]

This is definitely recall worthy. Step up Chrysler and do the right thing. 👍

[@TheGettyAdventures]

They won't recall them, It's a not safety concern and it would cost too much money and damage to the Hemi brand

[@markkoritko4985]

My 2018 has 86000 km and it’s doing it now….

[@sambeagle72]

not really something you can recall because its about the design and how the lifters sit is all it is. they did the same thing to the 392 but fixed it on the hellcats

[@jeremyallen3448]

This prevalent on the 3.6 penestar. I own a fleet of promasters

[@hiltonhelms568]

Chrysler, come on stept up and do the right thing elimate the tick in the engine with a recall.

[@gagecollins9711]

For perspective ive been a Chrysler and benz certified mechanic for a decade now. You've made good points, and in my opinion this problem should be recalled. We do have an updated maintenance schedule for the 5.7. Its now 3500 instead of 5000. Due to the design you are correct that the bearing dry out ,but the oil used is light enough to lubricate sufficiently until its ran any longer than 5k miles. We've had 5.7s with as many as 240k miles with no major mechanical issue. Should still be recalled

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Awesome thanks for the feedback. It does seem like there is compounding issues and not just one clear cut problem. one thing that is crazy is that my 2017 ram tells me to change my oil after like 14,000km. I do it every 5,000 but still nuts that some people trust the "oil life" gauge and get it changed once or twice a year max. so dirty oil could be a large issue as well. Idk it is kind of odd that FCA hasn't addressed the issue.

[@bobbobby6703]

5k miles with regular or full synthetic?

[@dark30welderwelding11]

Would running a thinner oil like a 0w20 vs 5w20 help ? Any aftermarket additives? Lucas ? Etc

[@gagecollins9711]

@@bobbobby6703 full synthetic

[@gagecollins9711]

@@dark30welderwelding11 thinner oil isn't recommended. Lucas added to the oil does seem to help in our experience short term.

[@jameswaters3599]

Good information explained simply for those of us who don't rebuild engines and need to diagnose the noise.

[@littlejohn6694]

This video is 10000% spot on. Happened to me at 117k miles on my 2011 Ram 1500 4x4. It’s a design flaw and FCA won’t change it or recall. Will NEVER buy another Ram again.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

well sorry to hear that. but yes there is no way FCA is not aware of this problem and are trying to sweep this under the rug

[@littlejohn6694]

@@TheGettyAdventures they are banking on the hope the customer didn’t get the lifetime warranty so they can make $4-5k on replacing the long block due to metal shards in the motor. Why make a change when they are making a ton of money? I will never buy a RAM again that’s for damn sure.

[@Johnny-pj2fm]

Tbh every car has its flaws its just really picking your poison. Ford and GM are no better.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

@@Johnny-pj2fm you are correct. each manufacturer has its downfall

[@eddieboss5934]

Yea my 2013 Silvarodo with 5.3 ticked at 80k, fixed under warranty then it blew up at 102k out of warranty. 6k for factory 5.3. 1% to 2% failure on Ram lifters after 100k mostly isn't out of ordinary. You have to wonder why Ram is out selling GM now though.

[@CoolArrow78233]

Decent video. I like replacing these cams, motors are gravy. I work for a chrysler dealer so you can understand. The hemi’s and 3.6’s are the speciality. Rule of thumb is if there’s ticking on cold start and goes away, then it’s an exhaust leak. But you can tell before that because there’s a tisk type noise. Lifter tick will always be there, hot or cold. And what i’ve found is that hemi’s with lots of idle time and going too long on oil changes will get you there quicker

[@cutmiller8846]

I noticed on my 13 rt, I had to jump start it and wen I finally got it cranked it was making a terrible knocking noise but eventually went away, any suggestions on that

[@DL101ca]

@@cutmiller8846 Sounds like it was misfiring maybe ? Any check engine lights/codes ?

[@Treys_den]

Hey man my 2014 hemi is ticking hot an cold. I don't believe it's an exhaust manifold leak. No codes ?? Lifters would be a green light for a warranty

[@StrokedGT]

Good to know, the 5.7 in my Aspen ticks at startup but goes away after a minute or two.

[@fisherh9111]

The best video on diagnosing the engine tick noise I have seen. Thankyou. Don't underestimate your ability for logical reasoning. You're good at. Thankyou again.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Thank you! just a super simple method to hopefully give the average person some insight into what they could be dealing with

[@Turshin]

Watch the uncle Tony's garage video on this topic. Unlike this video he tells you why FCA put the cam so high.

[@robhill8894]

Exhaust leaks are an issue with all engines with aluminum heads and cast exhaust manifolds due to the differences in the different material's expansion due to heat. Just an FYI.

[@chrislopez7109]

So could this explain why when my engine gets up to temps the tik goes away?

[@bikeraaron]

@@chrislopez7109 yes that’s more than likely an exhaust leak.

[@5.7leo33]

mine is starting to develop the hemi tick, and it is loud on cold start i have a carven r and I can hear the tick, but after I drive an hour to work and I turn it off and on I don't hear it at all

[@dippinauto56]

I have an 04 and it makes a tick sound till it starts warming up then it goes away , truck runs smooth as silk on startup and when it’s warmed up, it’s done it since I bought it, guessing exhaust leak?

[@anissaperkins1543]

I have a 2017 hemi as well and have this famous TICK. Taking it tomorrow to get an answer. Just found this video and thought I would educate myself. Thanks for the info.

[@salvadordelatorre-hk6fm]

does the tick go away after a few seconds it’s on and warms up.

[@arx4-571]

Glad you talked about it. In my opinion, this is a pretty severe design flaw and everyone always acts as if the Hemi is the best engine ever... I can’t stop thinking about this. I love my Hemi but this is not what a good engine is supposed to be like, and what’s worse is that Chrysler hasn’t fixed or acknowledged it, even though it’s been an issue for over a decade. Mine does it very slightly and when I top off the oil every few months, it’s completely quiet for like 2 days. For me it’s just extremely annoying because I usually do idle a lot, and I’ve been trying not to, to avoid any catastrophic damages. I’m looking at trading it in right now. I’ll miss the Hemi because it was a fun power train and by far the best sounding, but damn this feels like walking on eggshells.

[@carld8897]

Thank you so much for your very informative video. I have watched many videos on this topic, and yours is the best one. Finally, someone has provided the correct information AS TO what causes the lifter/cam failure. Good job!

[@treeoflibertydefense8612]

My grandma preordered a Challenger Shaker. Had people from around the country calling the dealership to buy it cash when it arrived. She drove it 5000 miles and the tick developed. She drove straight to the dealership and said she wasn’t leaving until they fixed it. Took several attempts but she was persistent and they eventually fixed it. Grandma has gone on to win several car shows now with her highly customized Challenger.

[@ayliniemi]

How did they fix it?

[@freedumb342]

@@ayliniemi More than likely they changed out lifters and cam since it was such an early failure. They also most likely put in the footnotes to change the engine oil to %w30

[@KeeganVera]

I've idoled for thousands of hours in the south Texas heat! Man I wish I watched this video 5 years ago!

[@bringthefire8795]

Hi I have have 2010 5.7 Hemi 290000 km on it no issues although I have all ways run synthetic oil in my engine and started using a 0w20 full synthetic oil at 230000 km also don’t go over 8000 km per oil change so far it working for me love the hemi nothing like the sound of a hemi

[@paulfronczak1817]

Buying a Jeep with the 5.7 Hemi conversion and that is the first thing I noticed. It tick's at idle, sounds like lifters....watching your video confirmed my suspicions and it all makes sense. I will still buy it with a price adjustment and enjoy replacing the cam and lifters in a year...lol

[@malamri424]

Just had a cyl. 7 exhaust side lifter fail on a GC SRT with 203000km. That's one of the MDS lifters. I've had MDS disabled by a tune since 174000km. Now will be switching to non MDS 6.4 cam, EngineTech lifters (which throw oil at the rollers and cam), and a hellcat oil pump to compensate for the possible pressure drop. Wish me luck!

[@gunsite45]

How did this turn out?

[@malamri424]

@@gunsite45 I'm at 335000km still running good 👍

[@gunsite45]

Thank you! Thinking of doing the hell cat oil pump for starters

[@malamri424]

@@gunsite45 My local Mopar shops uses Melling high volume pumps as a standard procedure for failed lifters/cam. That's another option for you if you can't find a hellcat one.

[@badboy-9469]

سلام يالعمري، الكام والليفتر من وين تطلبهم واذا فيه ملاحظات قبل ما اطلبها ياليت تعلمني وشكراً لك 🙏🏼

[@quazimotoscopick7085]

Lifter chewed up my cam real bad 2013 Ram 1500 I was idleing the truck for 30 min everyday in cold weather last year only Cost 9 grand to have 5.7 hemi swapped,it ran amazing Shit the bed over night 120 000miles Lesson learned Good video brother

[@TheGettyAdventures]

thank you sir

[@madmade6877]

Ughhh 9 grande🤒🤯

[@netsurfers9357]

Sometimes it is broken exhaust bolts... easy fix is to use shorty headers that mount up to stock exhaust or redo the exhaust with long headers. Bolts are notoriously broken because of cast iron manifolds verses aluminum heads... stainless steel headers will expand better with the aluminum heads... reducing the chances of breaking bolts. Port the journals on the crank and other port orifices to a wider angle will increase oil coverage... we used to do this in the machine shop to increase the life span of the parts with adding a performance oil pump.

[@mspeedm5849]

BEST INFO ON THIS I HAVE SEEN SO FAR, THANKS FOR SHARING IT!

[@nickcalabrese9715]

Have a 2011 Ram with 478,000km. Had the tick nearly from driving it off the lot. She is still going strong, and the tick is stronger than ever, something you get used to

[@zacbass1636]

Me too but only just under 150,000 miles mine has a knocking sound underneath but I think maybe it's an exhaust leak?

[@davidgriffin3311]

@@zacbass1636 if it goes away after warm up then egsaust,but if gets worse after warm up then lifters.don't ask me how i know.

[@michaeldepow6663]

You are 💯 right. Funny I learned it from uncle tony

[@jimsix9929]

I have been recommending VR1 racing oil for these 5.7 hemis, yes I know it is bad for the converters but only if the engine is burning oil, most do not, I think the extra zinc may make them last longer it coats high pressure areas with a coating that will protect them even with no oil for some time

[@brotherskrillrc6042]

I've had the hemi tick or marble sound from day I bought it , in april 2006, Dodge ram 1500 5.7 hemi trx4 4x4 35 inch tires and fox coil overs front and air lift bags rear, close to 82k miles now towed my toyhauler filled with dune buggy 3 wheelers quads all gear and fuel for weekend stays water, gas extras , weekly in town to glamis gordonwells offroad area desert to Las Vegas Utah new mexico, from san diego at 19,860lbs trailer and truck once weighed at scales,loaded it has held up no problems just hear the tick or marble sound not sure always hear it hait it but truck still strong and reliable only have had to replace water pump just 3 months ago that's it and replaced the belt the tensioner the idle bearings while in it, hoses and fan clutch , and battery last year super reliable maybe I dont have lifter tick but theres always that marble clack sound but anyways been awesome truck ya maybe a nice Cummins 2500 would of been better for pulling the mountain grades yes would of.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

funny you say that. I bought my truck off the lot and I honestly thought it had an exhaust leak or some top end type of noise. But apparently that's just how they sound.

[@DavidJohnson-ri2on]

Same here. Have an 08 ram 2500. 138k miles no issues with the valve train.

[@toddwomick8151]

Love this video. You hit the nail on the head. I had a 2006 that started ticking or clacking real loud at 112k miles. It was a worn roller on the lifter

[@3elasm]

and how much did you pay to replace it?

[@Horsemanpro63]

I had a friend who had to replace the upper valve and rocker, cam , lifter assembly because of this problem,,, but what he told me he did was use a different grade of engine oil than what the manufacture recommended. The recommended oil grade is 5W20...he started to use 10W30, then 10W40 then went to 20W50,,,he thought the thicker oil would help lubricate the internal parts better, but what happened , and he found out was the oiling ports inside the Hemi are very tiny, ,the thicker grade oils couldn't get through to areas where needed. ,,especially at cold start. My Hemi has that tick, I'm at 208,000 but I've always used the right oil,,5W20..switched to full synthetic years ago, and always change on time. My tick goes away under power, but faintly is there. Oil pressure is very good, so I'll just keep going till it goes. You stated that idling is bad for these engines,, what do you do in stop and go city traffic,,??..or stuck in stopped traffic on the highway..??..idling is probably unavoidable.....my truck is a 2006 Dodge Ram 1500,,,,hopefully I don't have the defect..

[@rowenakers8712]

Thats around the time that they started putting hemis in everything

[@jaredglass2562]

I have a '13 model 5.7 . Got it at 40k miles got 120k on it now. I have a tick but it seems to be the exhaust bolts. Something I've always done is 6 quarts mobil 1 and 1 quart marvel mystery oil. Can't really say for sure if it makes the difference or not. Obviously in traffic or drive thru i idle but I do not let my truck " warm up" in the winter. Just get in it and go!!

[@josevalenzuela2681]

what kind of oil are you using

[@koryyyy]

The most profesional and yet most understandable explanation that I found all over internet. I have a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the hemi 5.7 and It starting making the tick. It does it hard when starting the engine and goes away seconds latter. I'm towing a trailer. and I'm in Colorado now. the local mechanic that I found said that is the lifters and quoted 3500 for a full replace (including the cam shaft). I did oil replace and added an additive without any change. The crazy thing is that some times will start without making any noise. So I sill have some hopes that is the manifold. I left my car tools behind so I will buy online the "hearing tool" and also do the exhaust test. I saw a video of a ram with the exhaust problem and it sounds exactly like mine. but I read that both issues sounds the same.

[@patrickpatterson3735]

What was your problem?

[@nighthawk8053]

The Hemi is not a overhead cam design, but they did raise the cam location higher for HP. Which starves the upper end of the engine lubrication. I changed my oil to 5 w 30 and have no hemi tick now 👍

[@bradhart4179]

does that void warranty tho ???

[@nighthawk8053]

@@bradhart4179 No ,it's in my manual that if you tow anything like a boat , that it's recommended to switch to 5-30.

[@porschadominguez8262]

Awesome video !!! I keep telling everyone that idling is not a good idea, but since you said it now it the thing to start doing . Lol. I take it howI can , thank you for helping me get my point across about idling !

[@kencohagen4967]

The in block cam design limits the lift of the cam and its duration. So, Mopar put the cam higher in the block to make more horsepower available. Another possibility, and this will take some research and development, would be to put a line above the lifters to spray oil on the top of the lifters and cam lobes. Besides using better needle bearings, you could use bronze bushing type lifters. I think Crane makes them.

[@mypronouniswtf5559]

Hemi has oil galleries above the cam/crank and sprays oil under pressure on the engine parts..It doesnt rely on splash from the oil pan!

[@jazminethompson2284]

Thank you for letting pepole know this about these trucks ram really drop the ball on this one big time !!!!

[@dazmac159]

Cool info, was going to mention UTG, you got me on that. Yes all due to higher location of camshaft, I believe there are aftermarket lifters that offer better lubrication.

[@massivefins2597]

UTG is clueless..

[@hazellynneblue4076]

Aa

[@67NewEngland]

@@massivefins2597 - UTG did a very comprehensive explanation on this problem. The man has built more engines than you’ve tied shoes.

[@massivefins2597]

@@67NewEngland he knows nothing about modern engines.. and his stuff always breaks... :)

[@workhard6445]

By far the best explaintion of this very common issue. The people who put a thumbs down must be the chrysler fiat owners

[@scottrussell6717]

Very true... way to keep from happening... reduce idle time... stopped at a red light wont cause it but letting it idle for a long time will

[@natasharae612]

Hey, single mom here w a 2014 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi and yep. Ive got the tick. My rig is high mileage and the RPMs jump a little and have a sluggish feel to it in the first hour of drive time. This video was super helpful and informative for someone who's learning to do her own truck maintenance. Thank you!

[@tomwatson2036]

Appreciate the info. Why couldn’t a class action suit be brought against Dodge

[@foxbodyguyeightyeight3672]

Because the parent companie of Chrysler changes more often than gas prices

[@kenny_utah]

I have a 2013 ram 5.7 and it's just starting to tick. Thanks for the info 👍

[@TheGettyAdventures]

could just be an exhaust manifold leak. they are also very common on these engines and much cheaper to fix!

[@mayatuck]

@@TheGettyAdventures How cheap? I'm not a gear head and need to have it done. How much are we talking?

[@nebraskaninkansas347]

I know the pentastar V6 as well seems to have a similar problem with roller bearings going bad. I have that engine in my Ram and think that problem may be starting. My plan though is to replace all 24 of them if its the case.

[@FleetTech97]

Yes they are notorious for it too. Best is to replace all while you are in there

[@rogerswope9881]

I bought a Hemi Jeep earlier in the year and had it checked over by an experienced local guy and Hemi builder. He said mine was in good shape and I had him put synthetic oil in it. No problems yet and the Jeep is a 2010.

[@johnf.6942]

Same with my 2015 ram , 5.7 , I use full synthetic oil, and there is no tick . Oil is Changed at 3,000 mikes religiously.

[@utahcountypicazospage5412]

Make sure to step on your hemis all the time hit the rev limiter a lot and you will be good

[@dalvingl]

My 2007 Dodge Ram ticked for 130,000 miles and ran strong as can be

[@nathancalhoun9200]

Number one reason why I love my 2002 4.7l 👍

[@The340king]

The Hemi is not a SOHC engine. It is a cam in block engine. They raised the cam to allow for shorter pushrods and a better angle to the rocker system. The oiling may be an issue. If so, I am of the opinion it’s due to the lightweight fully synthetic oil dripping completely off the hard parts between runs. The unlimited late model dirt cars tried the fully synthetic oils and went back to the semi synthetic oils so that the needle bearings in camshaft bearing (in the block and not the lifters) retained oil and didn’t suffer from dry start up failure. I run both Marvel mystery oil and Lucas oil stabilizer in my 2017 Ram. I run the prescribed oil and change it with the oil monitor reminder. I have just shy of 70,000 miles on it so far and it doesn’t appear to be having this issue. A good trick is to cut the oil filter open at the change to examine the filter media. If there’s metal fragments in the filter media you more than likely have this issue.

[@rdallas81]

Lol. My 04 Hemi had 300,000 miles of hard use and towing and Tics since 100,000.

[@The340king]

@Roy Hemion I ran mine up to 170,000 with no issues and traded it in on a 2017 Ram. The 201 now has 110,000 miles on it. It appears that in some forms of use and maintenance impact the wear on the roller lifters. I don't use mine for short trips like a daily driver. It's used as an over the road vehicle. My 03 was used the same way. I have a beater car now that takes the daily commute.

[@rdallas81]

@@The340king I bought an 04 6 months ago for 2000. Its a awd Laramie edition with leather and factory 20" rims. Makes some noise upon startup and goes away after several minutes- Truck has 300,000 miles and runs strong. Pulls hard all the way to 6200 rpm. The guy I bought it from said His dad bought it brand new. I was considering buying another Hemi and doing a rebuild with the 6.4 Oil system. I am very impressed that the truck with that kind of mileage actually sounds so smooth and tight. Its technically my first dodge vehicle. Have a blessed day and If you can't Dodge it, Ram it. (Lol- sorry I had to say that somewhere)

[@marcnavcaliforniaanglerz5091]

Dude this video is super educational your the man brother

[@halp.3640]

262,000+ miles now on my 2007 RAM. It started ticking at about 245,000 miles. Still runs like new though.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Good to hear. Gives me hope!

[@krevans22]

Makes me feel a little better knowing they make it that high. What viscosity oil do you run? I have been wondering if going thicker would be better.

[@1978CHINOOK]

This was very informative, thank you for the education Sir.

[@robsorgdrager8477]

So I used to work for a gm dealer and we delt with the same thing often. I feel it has more to do with the cylinder cut off system. There are just too many small moving parts. I just got a 16 awd hemi pursuit charger and it's a noisy engine compared to my crown vic p71 I had before it. As a mechanic I would tell you to never add oil additives but I do use lucas oil treatment and a good non synthetic 5w20 and it seems to really quite things down. I keep oil changes to NO MORE THAN 5 K, no short trips and I use premium fuel . If I do get a failure I will just stab in a stage 2 cam and lifter set and program the mds out. One could always tap into a oil galley and make a drip line for the valvetrain .

[@TheGettyAdventures]

so my truck is still in warranty but after that period iv thought about adding Lucas. The cylinder cut off system does seem to get a lot of blame my personal thought is maybe there is a combination of factors causing these failures to kind of create this perfect storm. regardless thanks for the info! appreciate the knowledge!

[@robsorgdrager8477]

@@TheGettyAdventures Lucas is mainly gear lube but it has some other stuff in its additive package. I cant say I've ever had a warranty claim kicked or a inspector deny a claim because of lucas . I've repaired close to fifty plus LS and ecotech engines and the only time they get kicked is because it's obvious the oil changes were not routinely done( we are talking inches of sludge ) . On the newer gen 3 hemi I've seen a " oil slinger " added to this engine vs the older gen 3 ....that was at 14 I think so fingers crossed, as much as I say I'm a Ford guy I've always been a closet mopar nut , I really like this car😈

[@stevenhughes6067]

This was an excellent explanation, thank you

[@paulstoolbox]

Great information, thanks!

[@wario1015]

Just had my lifters changed out at 90,000 miles. I have a friend that works as a service advisor at dodge and I told him if he can do that claim on my warranty for me since I paid for the 100,000 powertrain warranty without even using it and luckily they didn’t question the work and I paid $100 deductible to have my lifters replaced.

[@KnightsArmory]

Best video I've seen on this so far. Thank you!

[@christopherscaletta]

My hemi tick was the crank shaft disintegrating. My SSV was a Sherriff's department pursuit truck that blew a head and sent metal into the crank bearing journal and into the oil journals, constant rotation with metal friction tore the crank apart from vibration and that was found upon dealer teardown. Lifetimr Warranty covered a new engine all I had to pay for was a rental vehicle and a set of exhaust manifold studs and nuts.

[@keywesttexmex1]

This was incredibly helpful. Thank you.

[@richardcarr6493]

THANKS DUDE YA JUST EXPLAINED OUR PROBLEM PERFECTLY

[@egrant3490]

Except he didn’t it’s not a sohc

[@SchwayZ]

Great explanation video man. Very well detailed and provided some great info.

[@whoawhoapop1984]

I just got an 06 300c with a scary noise. Im thinking cam too. Great video!

[@theragingcreeper9040]

My car has had the hemi tick for for the last 50k miles.. i brought it to the dealer when it started.. said I'd be lucky to make it another 10k miles. Guess he was wrong. It got a little worse.. but it still runs strong.

[@gohogs2277]

Just turn the music up it’ll be fine

[@theragingcreeper9040]

@@gohogs2277 exactly what I do, shes still runnin 😂

[@W0RLDP3AC31]

Glad I Came Across this Video!

[@radelarosa97]

I have a 2011 hemi in my ram, and well I fix it last year and well now, I have the same problem, again lol. So, now I just put some “engine stop leak oil” mix with the oil. I hear the lifter every morning but I let the truck warm up and it’ll be gone within the 5 minutes. I know it’s not the exhaust, you can hear it clearly when it’s a lifter.

[@dlestus2368]

How much did it cost to fix the first time?

[@radelarosa97]

@@dlestus2368 1200 for all the parts, oil and gaskets

[@radelarosa97]

@@dlestus2368 now I’d you go to a shop, they’ll charge you from 1500- all the way up to 4,500

[@MrEverest1979]

Just took my 2014 Durango in for this. Said they might have to replace the engine, thank goodness I have the Lifetime Max Car Warranty

[@senioraxys3947]

Bruh i can get a 5.7 hemi 1500$ and swap it in 1 one day, no big deal.

[@eldorado1830]

Hey, thanks for the video. I just spent a ton on front suspension parts and labor for my 2007 Durango w/ hemi guess what got out of my vehicle at work heard the tick ...yeah kinda bummed but no payments.👍

[@ardentran8443]

Thank you for this video! Great info and well delivered

[@samiam9059]

Amazing that they let that design defect pass. Scary

[@Tc-ev9dd]

Manifold bolts will cause this too. I changed those out and the noise stopped. I changed out most of the mopar fluids and tie rods and struts. I run 5w 20 amsoil. And I changed the transfer case with amsoil. I use amsoil for front and rear diff as well.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

ya the manifold bolts breaking really doesn't help dodge or the Hemi, kinda compounds on the whole Hemi tick thing. I've run mobile 1 since new and I'm going to stick with it. but I have heard great things about amsoil.

[@Tc-ev9dd]

@@TheGettyAdventures mobile 1 high performance is good. Ive used mobile one for a long time. Not all hemi get the tick. My brothers 2017 has 90,000 on it still running strong. Hes changed his cooliant, front and rear diffs and the transfer case. Keep in mind if you have the bw44-44 or i should say borg warner you can use amsoil full synthetic transfer case fluid its equivalent to the mopar stuff. I run amsoil in all my diffs and the transfer case dont have to change it out for a while and I tow alot at times. Mopar stuff like even there fluids are expensive but then again amsoil is too. But I would rather go with a trusted brand. I want to change out all my mopar shocks and struts with fox.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

@@Tc-ev9dd Honestly It's probably pretty rare for a Hemi to have a lifter failure but it seems to happen enough that it is an issue to be aware of. So your brother's truck has the "updated lifters" in his truck. It will be interesting to see as those truck (2016 and above) age if they have similar lifter issues.

[@Tc-ev9dd]

@@TheGettyAdventures do you know if thats all 4rth gen rams. I changed my fuel sending unit out because my fuel guage went out around 30k. Mopar parts are just bad. I swapped out for a better after market part.

[@jeremiahfisher6994]

Great I just bought a 18.... wished I seen this 3 weeks ago

[@blakemiller1127]

All g, treat her as best as possible, she shall last you until your next purchase. I have a 06 5.7l, holding up strong at 210k.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

EDIT* The Hemi is not a SOHC engine, clearly. The cam is mounted higher in the block then a "traditional" V8, that's what I was trying to get at and obviously mixed myself up lol. Sorry for any confusion.

[@bigdaddyshouse]

Hey brother, you didn't ruffle any feathers using my clip. I'm actually flattered you thought my footage was worthy. Thanks for acknowledging credit. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKmUiopooLBsnpo Keep up the good work. Adam big daddy's house

[@proclick2204]

If the cam higher in the block we need change oil pump MELLING brand with high pressure i think it's better .

[@juanr6588]

Mds system not lubricating lifters mostly at idle

[@Comanchee0689]

Glad you cleared that up. I was going to say something.

[@mr.watcher4747]

So what happens if you had an extra quart or 2 ... maybe the engineers miscalculated...

[@popeyeandstraussmx4165]

I’ve seen 5.7 hemi’s drop valves because the driver kept driving it after it starts ticking. Ppl say 5.4 Tritons are bad I’ve never seen them go bad they keep on ticking. Dodge made the same flaw with the 4.7 and on top of that the 4.7 dropped valves because they weren’t rated right from the factory. Chrysler quality.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

It's a tough look from Chrysler. It's honestly to bad because when the hemi's run well they are a great engine. lots of power and very smooth. also have a great sound.

[@popeyeandstraussmx4165]

The Getty Adventures yeah I know that’s one reason ppl still buy them, when they run correctly they’re great engines. You can probably spend some money and bulletproof then I’m sure tho.

[@popeyeandstraussmx4165]

@Grunt quit assuming shit buddy I got a 2001 Ford F-150 5.4 2 valve and an 05 5.4 3v. The 2 valve has 243k miles and the 3 valve has 165k. And I am a part time mechanic I’ve seen a few 5.7 hemis have lifter failure. Never seen a 5.4 have lifter failure just valve train ticking sounds but they keep on doing it

[@coltendixon1782]

The triton 🤣 they couldn't even get the heads correct. Let's start at the spark plug issue...

[@popeyeandstraussmx4165]

@@coltendixon1782 yes let’s talk about a cheap non catastrophic issue of the 5.4 and compare it so the 4.7 and 5.7 severe issues...

[@kaseyyyy9543]

Thank you for posting this! Great job on the animations 😊

[@jeremiahfisher6994]

They should recall em. It's sad that all these master engineers can't figure out this problem

[@hellcatredeye-g6582]

I’m rebuilding a 5.7 right now it had both symptoms ...4 broken Exhaust studs and 3 Lifters That we’re bad But it’s a good motor👍😊

[@hellcatredeye-g6582]

Hybrid Libertarian Absolutely I’m having the lifters Replace I’m doing the cam valves heads everything done I’m a mechanic this is just a side project we’re doing with my daughter thanks👍We have a New crank and pistons rods coming in today

[@chrisdihrberg747]

Hemi's are not the only motors that do this , It happens in GM motors with there version of MDS more frequently .

[@scottmiller8759]

I'm just getting the Tick at 61k. I barely hear it when I'm driving on the street. I have lost aprox 1.5 mpg on surface streets recently. Will do the stuff the exhaust and Stethoscope test. Thanks for your vid.

[@scottmiller8759]

2018 Ram 1500 5.7 Night Vision

[@gerryhazelton9569]

I owned a 2003 quad cab 5.7 hemi never had a issue and I beat the living hell out of it . Miss that truck .

[@cjr4497]

A short water hose works just as good as a stethoscope. My father in law taught me that trick long ago.

[@lukeknighton4918]

My “misfire” turned out to be an exhaust manifold and an exhaust flange leak. I JB welded the whole area. Got rid of my tick and drives a lot better.

[@jasurkan]

My son's 2014 Ram was ticking. Broken exhaust manifold bolts on both sides near firewall. Installed aftermarket headers. Quiet now!

[@randyu8688]

Would it stay "ticking" even after the engine warmed up and you would drive around?

[@perezcp356252]

Did the misfire throw an engine code?

[@eliasoviedo63]

Just bought a 2011 ram same as the one on the video flawless beautiful inside outside my old lady loved that’s I got I wasn’t so sure since I always been a Ford guy owned a f250 monster beautiful truck for 12 years not problems at still kicking ass on my 19 year old son But my new ram kinda scares me couple days after buying it started hearing this ticking noise really barely but I assume it will get louder with time I’m so glad I watched this video now I’m bit more terrify 😩 hopefully isn’t something so bad the noise goes away within minutes so I’m prying is not a mayor problem thanks for sharing video good 411 thanks

[@bentonheath6843]

A high quality friction modifier / extreme pressure oil additive will greatly protect these roller bearings. Preferably one that adheres to ALL bearing surfaces. I have the information if interested.

[@stevemcdowell7207]

I would like the info.

[@raulquintanilla8718]

Me too

[@beeasy6170]

???

[@SEOwithErik]

So in a nutshell, run on third gear at all times and if you need to stop for anything, turn off the engine. Got it! But on a serious note, if this design is specific to the HEMIs, I then wonder why Chevy folks also run into lifter issues as well if properly maintained according to all the forums and comments I've read on this type of stuff.

[@anthonyhouska6882]

Because they also do the cylinder shutdown feature. They are known for failing much faster though.

[@iqthunder1]

This was very helpful indeed, it's the only video I found, that explains why it happened. I have 5.7L 2014 Challenger, with a 65k mile on it, it starts ticking 2 months ago 🙃, after a quick diagnosis, the mechanic told me a lifter/s need to be changed asap. With quarantine, my needs, and almost constant curfew in my country, I didn't get a chance to arrange for a fix, I'm just doing it now. However, because I don't have full trust with mechanics (sorry) i have few questions that maybe you can help me with, please, to increase my knowledge. - Do they need to take the cam out and visually diagnose it? Or it's good if he said it's good because i have no code for missfire? - If the cam is good, is there any parts need/recommended to be replaced because we took of the gasket? (In other words, before we open the engine, should i only buy lifters, or some other parts too?) Thank you. *English is not my first language.

[@Cubanogar]

Here, look at the mds delete kit and they have videos how to do it. www.modernmusclextreme.com/

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Depends on the state of the cam. if you have caught it early enough I have heard guys not having the replaced the cam. But, most of the time the came lobs are very warn out. If it were me, I would want to inspect the cam shaft. you are already into the engine pretty good with new lifters might as well do the extra work and pull the cam to see if the lobs are okay. my guess, depending on again, how quickly you caught this, the cam is likely damaged to some extend. I wouldn't re-use any gaskets, buy all new and save yourself the hassle.

[@patrickpatterson3735]

What was ur issue? Fixed it?

[@iqthunder1]

@@patrickpatterson3735 1 bad lifter, which scrapped out the camshaft only at the spot of their contact. No I didn't fix it, after a year, I thought maybe it doesn't worth to be fixed, as long as everything runs okay 😅 Now it's been 2 years, same ticking, but also, same performance.

[@patrickpatterson3735]

@@iqthunder1 thanks for the reply. That sounds like a good deal, if performance is fine, no need it change it. I have a tiny tick problem that I hope I don’t need to do anything to

[@jefferybaxter1225]

Good info. Not enough lubrication for the lifters is the issue. I have a 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the 4.7 liter V8 engine and it makes the same sound. The mileage on it is a pinch over 171,000. Took off the valve cover and noticed one or two worn out lifters. In addition to that an area of the camshaft worn out. So, the 4.7 liter V8 engine and the 5.7 liter HEMI V8 have lifter issues. I think 2017 or 2018 model year Chrysler vehicles equipped with the 5.7 liter HEMI V8 doesn't have the lifter issue anymore. If this issue doesn't exist anymore, unfortunately Chrysler didn't publicly address it.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Ya I heard in 2016 that the lifters were updated and manufactured by a different company. so who knows if that makes a difference only time will tell i guess!

[@jefferybaxter1225]

@@TheGettyAdventures OH. Ok. Good to know. Thanks for the info because I have intentions on getting the upcoming new generation 5th generation Jeep Grand Cherokee. It will be released this year. However, I will not be getting it this year though. In general based on what I've noticed with vehicles regardless of manufacturer is that the first year of the new generation vehicle sometimes have some bugs in there....you know. So, what I'll do is I'll get either the 2nd or 3rd year of the new generation Jeep Grand Cherokee. I'll get it in the Overland trim equipped with the 5.7 liter HEMI V8 engine.

[@kanobiimorris7935]

The same condition is afflicting the pentastar 3.6L V6

[@Hennes003]

Very good Video and very informative. Thanks!!

[@saxmusicmail]

But the lowly Slant Six and 318 LA engines would last seemingly forever with few problems. I had a few waterpumps go out, and one timing assembly (who thought nylon cam gear teeth was a good idea???), but overall, these were great, long lasting engines. The later Magnum 5.2 and 5.9 are good performing, long lasting, too. But I worry every day that I'll start my 2016 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi and hear "tick-tick-tick-tick...".

[@ericsova7626]

The fuel management system is also one of the big reasons for this . Ford,chevy and dodge all have their engines grenadi g because when the back 4 cylinders shut down. They don't get enough oil and when they fire back up, they are dry. Have the fuel management system turned off by the dealer and you won't have to worry about your truck leaving you stranded. With a huge bill to fix it.

[@ProMountainBiker]

I think if Chrysler admitted to it at this point they would lose a huge class action law suit

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Chrysler/Fiat would be a world of hurt.

[@garyhaley3072]

I have one with 258,000 miles on it. Yes it ticks some of the time. I can live with that.

[@jmorris4374]

Just put 5k in my 392 cam and lifters he is so right

[@Four50Rev]

Something a lot of people used to do was check their oil condition and level at almost every fuel fill up. How many people do you see these days lookin at their phones or eating a chili dog, gas pump clicks and they get in and go? Everyone! Just because it's synthetic and theoretically lasts many more miles than conventional oil before breaking down doesn't mean you should CHECK/CHANGE your oil at that 5, 7, 10k mile mark. Depending how much you drive and the condition of your vehicle you could be losing a quart of oil a month. I've lost track of how many car owners told me they had to junk their car because they ran out of oil...

[@g.e.587]

I use pennzoil platinum full synthetic 5-w30 in my 06 ram Hemi with MDS deactivated. And the tick is hardly noticeable if at all. With 180k mileage. I think the oil you use is a big factor in this case. As i always see these trucks at those 19.95 oil change shops doing there oil lol

[@victornaja7927]

Hi how do you deactivate the mds and why would that help. Did you gain any more horse power.

[@g.e.587]

@@victornaja7927 i turned mine off using a diablo sport tuner. And it helped alot turning it off. Since i race my truck constantly on the road , when i had the MDS still on and i would floor it , it would cause the engine to knock (bearly) but do it enough and itll burn your valves up. MDS was not built with racing in mind more for fuel economy and efficiency . So in other words drive your vehicle how its intended to be driven when having MDS on. Here and there a pedal to the medal wont do much harm. But someone who races or floors it constantly i recommended turning it off in my opinion. And use thicker oil. Mine asks for 5w-20 witch is waaay to thin for a hemi engine BUT 5w-20 is recommended because of the MDS. But if you turn the MDS off you eliminate that problem and can use 5w-30 witch how i mentioned in my first comment it helps alot with the hemi TICK. I run 5w-30 pennzoil full synthetic and with 184k you can hardly hear the tick if at all. I hope this helps. Im not a mechanic just so you know lol.

[@michaellarrick8881]

@@g.e.587 I have a ram 3500 with the 5.7 hemi. No MDS on the heavy duty Hemi, but it still calls for 5w-20.

[@g.e.587]

@@michaellarrick8881 using synthetic oil? No tick either?

[@michaellarrick8881]

@@g.e.587 yep i just use penzoil platinum like the manual calls for! No concerning tick. Just the normal lifter noise. Recently had to replace exhaust manifold bolts tho 😭

[@NeilLB7]

Another issue is the oil galley pipe just below the cam. It blocks what little splash the cam might get. I’ve often wondered if that galley could be drilled to spray the underside of the cam and lifters. As well maybe a flow through replacement lifter would do the job. Clearly that’s a lengthy repair but it would be a permanent fix.

[@donaldmills623]

My question is, has this been the design since 05? Older models don’t seem to have this problem. My 05 has almost 250k and no problem yet.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Not 100% sure about the older models. I believe there are a number of differences between the newer Hemi's in the 4th gen trucks then the Hemi's in the 3rd gen. But that being said, it does look like a lot of these issues are stemming from the newer trucks.

[@tallll70]

good to consider the MDS involvement, because it rolled out 2006

[@Joe-sn6ir]

@@TheGettyAdventures in other words, you really don't know what the hell you're talking about.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

@@Joe-sn6ir you Bum hurt Joe? sounds like it

[@jesseleblanc1199]

Strange that the 04 didn't have an issue so it's the newer models that are giving folks problems is it time for another bailouts it seems if you find something that works well you could be happy ...but no let's screw shit up till we get 2 million recalled engines and are cam and lifter problems...it seems all these manufacturers want to have the same problems no need in making the best product getting that reputation and taking away other manufacturers business....no let's stoop to their level well the good news is they are all trash now ....stop buying any of them period as they no longer care about customer service

[@JacksonGuitarsPlayer03]

Mine had a tick but it was the bad gasket on the headers. When it’s cold you hear it louder when warmed up it’s more subtle. Put Gibson headers on it I hear that tick no more.

[@John-4649]

Swap out with Hellcat lifters or Johnson lifters to avoid the failure. Or so I’ve been told by a couple HEMI mechs Good informative video though!

[@EliteStricker]

Lol still wouldn't do anything, if its not getting enough oil

[@whowho7969]

Hellcat lifters sane problems

[@John-4649]

@@whowho7969 true story! I’ve still got it! I’m going with Crower next!!!!

[@jrlee8368]

Hellcat lifters are the same as the non MDS 5.7 R/T lifters.

[@John-4649]

@@jrlee8368 yeah I learned that after the fact. Crower all the way man!

[@jayzpov3665]

2019 Ram 1500 bighorn 18,400 miles on it and I have the tick which has become very loud out of no where and seems to be internal. Nice.

[@zacariasblanco9738]

WTF ? No wonder they're on sale. The ads are everywhere

[@davidfirth3712]

So main thing you have to do is HAMMER DOWN! Lol keep the RPMs up!

[@legendaryx2089]

Thanks for sharing the knowledge!

[@TheGettyAdventures]

glad you got something out of it!

[@TheJohnb35711]

"Knowledge"

[@TheGettyAdventures]

@@TheJohnb35711 You would be correct, this isn't my "own" findings. I just found it very interesting and thought i'd make a video about it

[@policronia]

Wouldnt an engine oil analysis pick up the metal from bearings and worn cam lobes? I think they are fairly inexpensive and a 2 week wait. Barely get your hands dirty.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

you could certainly get your oil tested. might be able to help you pick up a lifter failure very early and save your cam shaft. interesting idea! thanks for the share!

[@alanm.7380]

You hit it on the head, I owned one for 2 years and not knowing about the hemi tick I would remote start the truck and let it warm up in the winter and also let it cool down in the summer and low and behold after 2 years of this my lifters started to failing and had to have the lifters replaced before they damaged the cam , you are dead right about the low idol running for extended periods of time !

[@jaredglass2562]

Great to know it took 2 years. I just get in mine and go lol. Mabye mine will last.

[@partyoflove6967]

How much did it cost to replace lifters?

[@alanm.7380]

@@partyoflove6967 I also had some other work done at the same time, I had exhaust bolts drilled out and replaced! And I had one exhaust bolt hole welded because I drilled through the water Jacket so all totaled it cost me 6.0000 , that’s why I posted this to save other ram owners from the same outcome !

[@MM_in_Havasu]

I have 121K on my '12 Dodge Challenger, the engine has spent most of its life at or about 1800 to 2000 RPM on the highway(manual trans engine)and shows no signs of failing. That being said, my engine has always sounded like it has a very quiet set of solid lifters in it and has never gotten worse. Agreed, extended idling is not very good for these engines. A simple oil passage mod would fix that problem easily.

[@joshreynolds729]

Does this require machine work or can I just buy these and if so where?

[@MM_in_Havasu]

@@joshreynolds729 something would have to be designed/installed in the engine to route oil towards the lifters and rollers.

[@joshreynolds729]

@@MM_in_Havasu thanks.

[@nickcalabrese9715]

My 2011 Ram has 478,000km. Had tick the entire time, however shes still running strong

[@haskamoosic9371]

I'd get those RPMs up, ofcourse you don't wanna be hard on it but babying a high performance car like that isnt always good either, the ol Italian tune up would probably do your car some good

[@wayneandrews1022]

The Chrysler engine mentioned in the P47 was a late-war prototype only and never saw production. Production Bolts as pictured in the video utilized a Pratt & Whitney R2800 Double Wasp radial.

[@TheSlickpt]

I agree with everything you said except the part about the hemi having a overhead cam. The hemi cam is in block not overhead as stated .

[@markhall3434]

They upgraded their bearings in 2017, but Forgot to add an oil passage to oil the needle bearing thru the lifter. Lots of oil in the lifter.. should be easy.

[@cryptojohnny7781]

“Don’t let it idle”? LMAO you serious 😂😂😂

[@mrhighway]

Yea, When you coming to a stop light just run the light don't stop LOL

[@rkalla]

@@mrhighway lol!!

[@fabianlopez1182]

@@mrhighway too fuckin hilarious bro!🤣

[@jacobhouseworth5132]

Excessively.

[@sakabatanuki9744]

here is the cure to lubrication to needle bearing. Use thin cutoff wheel used in Dremel tool cut a groove into lower lifter body perpendicular to roller bearing. Do not exceed the depth more then 0.030, and width should be around 0.030. That groove will shoot oil on to the roller bearing and to needle bearing. I hope this help

[@drewbq85]

A lot of times the confusion between lifter tick and exhaust leaks can be solved pretty fast. Unless you have a major hole in your exhaust or it’s rusted out..exhaust leak ticks go away after about 3 to 5 minutes of driving it as the exhaust gets hot and expands. Lifter tick is constant when you have parts that badly worn. I hear so many people say they have lifter tick after 5 minutes of running the engine. This happens to several different brands (Chevy and dodge especially) even when they keep it serviced and under 100k miles usually it’s not a lifter tick at all. Don’t freak. Stop by an exhaust shop and they’ll inspect it and can tell you in 5 minutes..I do not recommend you stuff the exhaust lol not everyone is smart enough for that trick without overstuffing and doing some real muffler or even engine damage with blow back into the exhaust manifold!

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Great info! and yes the exhaust leak can sound so similar to an engine tick that it can be very hard for the average person to tell what it is. taking the truck to a trusted pro is never a bad idea!

[@AnthonyGarcia-gx1yf]

I have amateur knowledge on cars and engines, but couldn't it be the reason it goes away after 5 minutes is because the lifters have been lubricated after driving it around? At first I believed I had an exhaust leak, but now I'm convinced I have the hemi tick. I'm definitely going to get it seen about when I get the chance