THEMOVE: 2023 Tour de France Stage 20 ft. Chris Froome

[@paulhurdlow3490]

TheMove team are impressive interviewers -- they do an excellent job letting Chris Froome speak in his own voice and they ask good questions that inspire Froome's interesting answers. Great job guys.

[@biden_crime_family]

iance should get his own show on ESPN where he interviews not only cyclists but athletes from all sports-he is very charismatic and seems like a natural interviewer!

[@johnnyalexander5219]

Sure because Lance did so much “great things” for the sport, not! How the mighty fell, and how clowns follow them of the cliff!

[@biden_crime_family]

@@johnnyalexander5219

[@biden_crime_family]

dont be an idiot johnny....lance has done more good for the cause of cancer than any other athlete! .....the whole doping stuff is a sideshow and a distraction that can never negate lance's greatness on the bike especially in the TDF! The era he competed was different than now and everyone was on "something" -thus it was an even playing field!

[@johnnyalexander5219]

@@biden_crime_family What a stupid comparison, these are 2 very different topics. He was a cheat, and just because others were also cheating does not justify it. How many sport’s athletes have become ill or died because of doping? Just because he fought cancer, has nothing to do with the fact that he was one of the biggest cheats in the history of sports. He also made his teammates join the program. Have some integrity. Clearly this is lacking.

[@sebastian186]

Chris Froome is such a class act. What a legend

[@biden_crime_family]

ya froomey had a great run winning 4 TDF-but I think he is done-age catches up w everyone-can't escape father time

[@biden_crime_family]

i hated that ppl accuse him of cheating when he took asthma meds

[@simonjrgensen6761]

@@biden_crime_family He knows. Of course he knows. But as he said here he just loves bike racing.

[@alphaniner3770]

I think that matched to the right team Chris would make a great team leader - in that role he could go on for decades.

[@nicolasdelaforge7420]

@@biden_crime_family and when e-bikes were delivered to his team.

[@SashNYG]

People talk about van Aert as the most valuable rider but for me it's Sepp. Hands down. First he is the last guy to help Roglic to win the Giro now he is the last guy for Jonas win the Tour. What. A. Warrior.

[@recrevs963]

Agree it is Durango Eagle Sepp Kuss. Is he guiding Primož in Spain this August? Pcs says yes.

[@simonjrgensen6761]

@@recrevs963 Guiding Jonas in Spain perhaps?

[@HouseMD519]

Froome did not invent pedalling whilst in the “super tuck”. That honour goes to Mohoric who showed it to the world for the first time when he won the U23 Road World Championships in 2013 in Florence. It can be seen at 6:10 and 8:13 in this highlights video from the race: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKibpaCDdtSLgNU

[@buzzman4860]

We were super tucking in late 90s so Mohoric did not invent it

[@Usersixeightfourninefive]

Mo-ho-rich according to Johan Brunyeel

[@mrIceblink]

It's hardly worth arguing over, I mean it's not an invention as significant as the Television, Light Bulb or Telephone

[@biden_crime_family]

i dont understand how the UCI can ban a position on a bike -wtf! it would be like telling Tom Brady you cannot throw a football pass sidearm

[@nickjohnson710]

​@@biden_crime_familythey said it was a dangerous position, that you weren't in control of you're bike, that you could easily cause a crash

[@michaelstoecker4178]

Very nice having C. Froome on the show. He seems to be a classy, down to earth guy.

[@elaineoconnell2344]

So nice to see Chris and see him looking so well

[@ck_426hemi]

Love the show! Nice to see Froomey in the thumbnail. Looking forward to this one

[@curtvaughan2836]

Much appreciate the interview with Chris Froome - really miss his being at the top, and it was tragic that he wrecked out of achieving a 5-win TdF.

[@jamesscheller1873]

Thank you Chris Froome for your time. Awesome.

[@davidgeissler8620]

What a awesome interview love Chris froome one of the best all time

[@Matthieu260582]

The joy of Pogacar means much. He lost so much but kept racing and rejoicing about what he could. I dont know if he is clean or not but his state of mind is a very very good model to follow

[@glennoc8585]

With all respect pog didn't lose anything he just didn't win. I always wrestle with the win lose thing in sport as you can only lose something that you possess so you can only win the race or beca potential winner nothing more nothing less

[@fanutsky]

😢its just sport. Period. Theres winners & losers. Its part of the process that you accept defeat. Dont overthink it.

[@bojandolinar1535]

​@@glennoc8585Semantics, maybe OP meant he had lost time?

[@Fjordkrog]

@@glennoc8585I think they all are clean. You dont hear anyone complain about it today. I think if someone came out of nowhere and won everything other riders would talk about it.

[@ajtri5052]

83 days Lance worn the mighty yellow Jersey 🔥

[@koi-pond]

Thanks for posting this. I thought I missed them say the number and I guess I was not alone.

[@DavidSmith-hz3jg]

0. 83 unofficial.

[@simonjrgensen6761]

@@DavidSmith-hz3jg It's a shame isn't it

[@JSSBBB]

and isn't on the official record of ever having won a tour de france one time.

[@MarkTomeh]

Pogacar absolutely had a horrible day, not slightly bad, horrible, when he cracked and lost almost 6 minutes to Jonas on stage 17. He also had 2 bad days when he lost over a minute early in the race and when he lost over a minute and a half on the time trial. Jonas didn’t have bad days. That’s the difference. Jonas had some days when he lost seconds to Pogacar at a time, but he did great minimizing time lost and was patient and played the long game.

[@riquelmeone]

You cannot call every time loss a bad day. Pogacar’s time trial was certainly not a bad day. Vingegaard losing a couple of seconds was certainly not a bad day. Pogacar had two bad days. The deeper question though is, why? His injury, his preparation, his driving style, his health or simply the fact that Jonas is better on long climbs? It’s complicated

[@sean7098]

did he really have a bad day on the time trial?

[@telmolicious]

He rode 1.13 faster than Wout on the tt and significantly faster up the mountain where Jonas dusted him than he did during his 2020 win.

[@MarkTomeh]

@@telmolicious still “slightly” bad days since he lost significant time. There you go I added in “slightly”. His past races or beating Wout in the TT doesn’t matter. If he wanted yellow it was a bad day. The time trial I can understand since Jonas was an alien there, but losing that much in a 20 km tt? I think it was bad because Tadej didn’t have the same energy as Jonas, especially since that tt suited Tadej more. The other ones, stages 5 and 17 were absolutely bad days when he lost big time. Look in a big fan of Tadej, so those days disappointed me. I hope in 2024 he makes the tdf his main priority and he comes back strong.

[@telmolicious]

@@MarkTomeh Losing significant time and wanting yellow and not getting it aren’t evidence that u had a bad day. Had JonAs not been here Pogi woulda won by 1.13 to Wout on the tt. Would anyone have called it a bad day? No. They woulda called it a complete destruction of the field. Stage 5 he rode significantly faster up that climb than in 2020, Jonas was just an alien. On the TT Jonas was also an alien. Could he have ridden faster? We don’t know. Stage 17? Definitely a bad day since riders who aren’t usually able to hang beat him.

[@pierretostee]

Great to see and hear Lance pay respect to Chris Froome after so many WEDU shows where Lance could barely watch Chris 😉 Keep up the great work with your awesome shows the WEDU team 👊

[@jonatanwigerup2450]

Matej Mohoric actually did Supertuck before Chris. And saw another fella in Tirreno that same year (as Chris Froome did it the first year) doing it also

[@ShawnStradamus520]

Kwiatkowski and Sagan also used it in their first world championship titles before Froomey more famously used it in the TDF, although Froomey was the first one that I saw actually pedal the bike from that position!

[@jonatanwigerup2450]

@@ShawnStradamus520 Mohoric claims he invented it and used it as a junior. Not sure about it though

[@ShawnStradamus520]

​@@jonatanwigerup2450 That's what I have heard as well, but Peter and Kwiato were the first to use it on the world tour as far as I know. I agree with Froomey that it was stupid for the UCI to ban it since it gave advantage to breakaway riders and the made the racing more dynamic. Same with the "puppy paws" position. Although Lance was against both!

[@HouseMD519]

@@jonatanwigerup2450 yes, Mohoric did invent it. He won the U23 Road World Championships in Florence using that position. You can see it at 6:10 and 8:13 in this highlight video from the race and hear the surprise from the commentator having never seen that before: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKibpaCDdtSLgNU

[@jonatanwigerup2450]

@@ShawnStradamus520 yea I miss the puppy paws position. Stijn Devolder utilized it well when he won the 2008 Tour of Flanders. I think they banned the super tuck for safety reasons. But it's actually, according to research done a few years ago, not the most aerodynamic position on a bike

[@chrisaigner9161]

BEST SHOW ON KZbin EVERY SUMMER !!!!! THE MOVE IS ABSOLUTELY ROCKIN‘ IT 💪

[@robertkaufmann5554]

Try JB2--more cycling less "Bro-bullshit'

[@recrevs963]

Awesome guests and George did great job asking questions.

[@franciscopontesvelasco4315]

Ohmg this podcast will break all your records with Chris Froome👏💪

[@Gaggerlotion]

I doubt that

[@franciscopontes7609]

​@Gaggerlotion I love Chris Froome but youre right,maybe not everyone thinks the same way

[@kevinlykins9530]

When Lance Armstrong, was winning, The Tours's, I did not know enough about it. I was just a kid, riding my semi pro, bicycle all over the place. 🚲🚲

[@petyrkowalski9887]

Utterly love and admire Chris. What a rider and great guy.

[@fatifleur4428]

Lance you was and you wil be my idole thank you ❤️

[@pcontiman]

Love that you had Froome on. I was not a Sky fan but he was the grand champion during that run. Completed BS that they left him off this year.

[@andrewlabat9963]

Froome is a super class act..!!

[@PlayaBoss96]

No way! Froomey and Lance were the GOATS of their eras!

[@stevechristy4267]

Great show guys!

[@graemeporte3105]

Great interview. Great show. Love it

[@jackiewilkinson3122]

So glad they got Froomie. Love that guy.😊

[@gonzogeorgism2712]

Shout out to Tobias Johannessen. He‘s had some strong days in the back half of this tour as a young rider. And he’s been publishing his power data, so he‘s looking out for the interest of science!

[@mikearmstrong7956]

Chris Frome is Awesome. Nice to see him on the show next Year

[@jesusvaldes278]

Great show!!!

[@buzzman4860]

Kuss should have gotten the Boom Stick. How much blood did he lose and finished?

[@rookie7413]

I look forwards to watching Jonas Vingo race again.

[@perpardorf9917]

TheMove and Chris ❤

[@oness1334]

Froooome. Thank you for inviting him!!

[@okanaganmedia]

Its too bad that Pogacar is the "Golden Boy" of the tour. Jonas was not given the accolades he deserved. The panel on the Move, as awesome as they all are, are not fans of Jonas. Maybe he's a dick, I don't know, but 2 time Tour champion. Give the kid his due. He may be a 5 time tour champion. Pogacar won stage 20 but whatever. It meant nothing. I like Pogacar, but he hammered by the great Jonas V by a mile! Good job to all the riders and of course, another excellent show as always

[@johnferuglio8795]

So cool watching a 4x champ talking to a 7x champ. 👍

[@tristanm8250]

Technically speaking... a 4x champ talking to a 0x champ

[@dggratton]

@@tristanm8250 He rode every damn kilometer of every tour. He is a 7 x champ!

[@iancrichton]

@@tristanm8250 Seen as they're all on the sauce i still think Lance is the best rider ever.

[@iancrichton]

@@wyomingar Show me one rider in the top 30 this year who isn't on the juice.

[@simonjrgensen6761]

Yeah Lance was treated a lot different from the other guys from that era. No records from the 90's and 2000's should stand till this day if they treated people the same way.

[@hermannpohn5330]

Chris Froome have Asthma Funny Lance Armstrong have Doping Extrem Funny!

[@01FozzyS]

Nice to see Froomie on the show! One of the good guys on the tour.

[@pablomarquez4431]

The wahoo discount is for items on sale too. Thx again!

[@tomselek1000]

Sepp, Quinn, Matteo, Lawson, Kevin and Nielson all did such an incredible job in this tour. Americans should feel very proud of these boys.

[@victoriacarter3566]

Froomy!! What a treat! Thanks for the cameo.

[@RichardSmith-mf9wy]

Thanks Lance!

[@johnnydallas9212]

Yates brothers are a team in their own 🇬🇧 .. Gutted for simon not winning today !! .. Israel-Premier Tech made mistake not taking froome he defo could of won a stage .

[@andresjlenis5007]

Chris si a very good pro, he doesnot have to prove to anyone, enjoy 😊

[@happydays8171]

WAH-WAH WEDU Lance in the Borat bikini! This is the best Move yet, laughed my butt off.

[@johnd1466]

Chapeau Thibaut Pinot, made it only 33seconds behind Pog

[@orbifold4387]

And without Ketone-IQ. A true legend.

[@FearTheIndoorHorseRancher]

I know it’s never gonna happen but I’d love to see Froomey, G and Cav all on Ineos next year for a big send off and to try and help Cav beat Merckx’s record.

[@katrinagwen]

Froome being on the show, love it!

[@timliscum2861]

last 2 breaks in this tour have made it....... would be exciting

[@9outlier]

Greg LeMond had a parade lap down the Champs. We were there. Bittersweet. . .

[@mrIceblink]

That was funny to hear how Froome use to read the social media estimates of his power and see they were way off - I wonder if he ever (anonymously) replied with the correct estimate.

[@chris2MTL]

wow chris froome! such a nice guy.

[@peteraalborg]

It's interesting how fueling have changed so much in the last 6 - 8 years. Sky was at the forefront of every minutia of preparations back then and things have just evoled past that in a relative short time.

[@sugoi666]

As Johan told you multiple times, Chris Froom did not invent the supertuck. It was Matej Mohoric.

[@LETOUR7TIMESFRANCE]

JONAS VINAGAARD JUST WON THE TDF AGAIN!!! Back2Back CHAMP!!! CHAPEAU💛💛🥇🥇☝️☝️

[@dkvikingkd233]

So what did Froome think of this years edition of the TdF, apart from how hard he thought it was..?

[@michaelb1716]

Would love to see Chris Froome going all out for Liege Bastogne Liege next season!

[@sarawaldschmidt6620]

I would pay good money to listen to a podcast in which Lance and George review movies. 😂

[@marcellangevin]

Please more special guests!

[@flixerdk7947]

I don't understand why Vingegaard didn't try to attack on the last climb for the stage win, he was too far ahead in the GC to lose it in the last 10km even if he got dropped, he also had his teammate Kelderman 2 min. behind him to help him, and he knew he couldn't win over Pogacar in a sprint.

[@5508Vanderdekken]

Why should he have? Doesn’t need it for the win. Sometimes not winning everything makes you more popular

[@flixerdk7947]

@@5508Vanderdekken It always feels weird and lackluster when the winner don't win a mountain stage imo.

[@DrawsACircle]

Does it ​@@flixerdk7947?

[@flixerdk7947]

@@DrawsACircle Yeah, I mean he's proven he's the best on the climbs by taking over a minute on stage 5 and not having a bad day. But imo. the best should show they're the best on one of the biggest stages.

[@codigojordanys4086]

The best program

[@jadsru1]

Love Chris Froome❤

[@SpurOne76]

Jonas did exactly what he needed to do. The 2024 TDF promises to be crazy. Jonas, Tadej, Remco, Felix Gall, Carlos Rodriguez, Juan Ayuso, Wout Van Art. Lance, I love you bro but Jonas’ last name is pronounced Ving - Ga- GO.

[@stefan783326]

Haha, nice try 😵‍💫

[@mileshall9235]

Hahaha....the Bono imitation is killing me..

[@rolicelle]

Can’t wait for Cav to guest next

[@KidFury27]

That borat bikini was part of the best ad campaign that specialized ever released: Balls Out!!

[@fabianschaberl1795]

Love me some Chris Froome

[@Free_Ranger_CT110]

Next special guest, my vote goes to Cav!

[@pablomarquez4431]

Question.. was this tour the one with most elevation? Was this a climbing tour. Felt like there was a lot of climbing this yr compared to others.

[@greggm206]

Love Froomey.. do you think he'll switch teams?

[@TheWadcar]

What is the watch Lance is wearing

[@BroccoliDwarf]

Weather forecast says 75 % chance of showers on the Champs-Elysees cobbles tomorrow, so it may not be the usual "boring" sprinters race 😱 And btw, in future you guys should make a habit of checking the weather forecast when you preview stages, because rain, wind and heat makes a big difference, especially as certain riders struggle in one or more of those circumstances.

[@louKushh]

😬😬😬

[@5508Vanderdekken]

If it’s raining then I vote kristoff

[@franciscopontesvelasco4315]

Next interview Miguel Indurain and Bruynell can translate, or I can even translate if you need me lol

[@fernandoalvarado4923]

Lance can make extra good money by being Bono’s double! 🤩

[@Jen-iy7lq]

am I crazy, or did I see guys doing supertucking down 12% gradients at the T-Mobile International, 2004 in San Fran. I thought it was so F'd. Both of you guys were there, although LA was sick and abandoned. I saw at least a dozen doing it, and I thought for sure all of them had to be French.

[@S_Edward_Burns_ArtsEditor]

It's "funny" from here too. My thanks today. -Seb!

[@dirkwest6378]

Interesting thing Chris brought up: training to absorb 100 grams of carbs an hour. Keep in mind there are idiots in the US advertising an only meat, zero carb diet for elite athletes and performing on ketosis.

[@waynesilva9157]

I feel we were robbed of seeing Chris in the tour this year, what was his team thinking?

[@cristinafaria154]

Lance,he can ride as long he wants !

[@dannyho6786]

didnt they used to ride with bota bags back inda day ?

[@mochno1]

ah..nice, Dopers channel :-)

[@deerwoodretreat]

I have always wondered why Froome rode in the Giro instead of conserving his energy for his fifth TDF win. I understand there are appearance fees, and winning all three grand tours is huge, but wouldn't winning his fifth TDF have been even huger? That would have tied him with Merkx and company for the most wins, and set him up to possibly break the record the next year. He came in third that year, and I have to believe the Giro took something out of him. I wish we could have seen this record tied during our era.

[@wanderalmeida9584]

Froome, living legend.

[@rockymountainwoman2618]

Chris Froome: so eloquent and self-aware. He is an amazing cyclist. Hope his career is long. Recovering from a femur fracture is Hell!

[@chewyfoks1840]

16:45 LA does a Bono impersination, lol

[@ender4903]

I'm lucky I didn't watch him racing but I made it to Contador.

[@edwatson7487]

We have a Boom stick …. What you think about the Broom stick award

[@3starskiwi]

29:39 LA is still salty about Alberto Contador😅😅

[@Gaggerlotion]

Ha, yeah

[@edwin.jansen]

He did not say he would race another week George. It was a joke by the French interviewer and he jokingly agreed. To assume a litany from a joke. Kind of hilarious! Kudos! :P

[@EyeAmNotAlone]

Next guest Contador 💀💀💀

[@paulsolon6229]

Why after the conviction of the sky dr do we not have the depositions under oath of Wiggins brailsford froome?

[@pablomarquez4431]

Apparently Google says lance was 83x in yellow.

[@WillPower46]

lol "Nik Naks" good old SA comment there. Doubt most people know what Nik Naks are but they were always my favourite as a kid, sadly I live in NZ now and there are no Nik Naks here.

[@ericwilhelm2941]

You know what, ya'll ?! I love Lance. at around 25 minutes or so , about how many days in yellow he was!? Wikipedia !???! Fuck Wikipedia, that is me saying now. for real! The Man Busted his ass every time ALL the Time. Lance , there are MILLION with a Memory. You are a Legend , and we all know it.

[@thomaskendrick2378]

Yeah the riders realize they are all winners and professionals…so they have mutual respect for each other

[@lorenzodestefano4043]

Does the whahoo also detect live the hematocrit and the substances in your blood?

[@thomaspetersen9991]

I thought Pogacar Just did say he was feeling Great and coud Ride One Week more.funny he goes Home now then and Vingegaard goes to The vuelta Witch i Go to see here in spain

[@Sills71]

Contador is the guy that wiped the road with Lance in 2009 TdF.

[@lukewalker1051]

How many TdF's did you win? How many more TdF's did Lance win than Contador? A boat load. Grow the f_ck up.

[@Mjdssdfff]

Contador? Never heard of him.

[@jasrod2012]

Wiped the road? Not exactly. Lance was closer to Contador than Tadej is to Jonas. Lance was 11 years older. We all know that Contador was not exactly a clean rider either.

[@jasrod2012]

Tainted meat LOL.

[@MarkTomeh]

Contador wasn’t clean so we don’t know.

[@nicksmith-chandler458]

Liam Thomas does the super tuck

[@dannyho6786]

WTf, how does a team leave a 4 time TDF winna off the the team ??