Here's how Stu Macher SURVIVED Scream (1996) | (According to Kevin Williamson...)

[@lonewolfheart1697]

I think Stu Macher is such a cult figure... obviously the talent of Matthew Lillard is a huge part of that... plus a lot of people want him to return, including myself. He seemed crazier than Billy to me plus he was always meant to survive and play a much bigger role. The idea of him coming back after all this time is thrilling.

[@sarahedwards1541]

Yeah I think he was crazier than Billy too, he didn’t really have a motive like Billy it was just peer pressure, I loved Stu and thought he was hilarious so him coming back would be awesome, I can’t wait to see what Scream 6 will hold

[@sabian5290]

@@sarahedwards1541 true I’ve seen people say billy is scarier but I think Stu is to kill people just to kill people has gotta be way crazier/scarier

[@fearfulclan2007]

@@sabian5290 I thought Billy was way crazier and scarier than Stu. It also was obvious that Billy was one of the killers because of his looks.

[@mbuszka5295]

​​@@fearfulclan2007THAT is exactly, what makes Billy LESS scary as killer. Skeet role was briliant, but he plays guy, that EVERYONE, their mother and Your own instinct tell You to avoid. In fact, even not Sid, in love with him, truely could trust him. That is what makes him ultimately MUCH LESS scary. Very poster-like, but ultimately bullet extreamly easy to dodge. If he worked alone. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Stu, on other hand, is guy You hear stories about, how funny, how wholesome and how known around he is. Also, how unharmful big lapdog he is. Are You girlfriend at time, or guy he always hang out with, like Randy... All it takes is for him to talk with someone and get great idea to kill You. Or get pissed at You for breaking up with him, like Casey. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Billy, again. Everyone and their mother tell You to keep away. Stu is guy, who take You to party, having time of Your life... Then throw You off a cliff... Because he remembered this scene from movie and just thought, it will be FUN reenacting. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Billy needs REASON. Stu, not. And Billy himself said : *There is a lot scarier, when there is no motive, Sid.* 😊 Both were playing their roles AMAZINGLY. But Billy, while great at intimidation, makes ones of easiest bullet in SCREAMverse to dodge. Exactly BECAUSE he behaves, like he behaves. While joking about Stu, Randy(nor anyone) never, till Tatum's death think, Stu is killer. And only because in cutted scene he himself send him after Tate. Whatever scenario of her death one want to think finally, that was only reason, why he knew. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Billy is scary in this very NORMAL "I will kill You" way. Stu is sicko, who will give You time of Your life and kill You as surprise. OR tie You down and chat down, for hours, how he will do it, with every detail. Probably asking for some ideas. 😂 Call me weird, I will prefere die fast, if knew it was inevitable. 😂

[@ianbg72]

I feel it’s 100% absolutely realistic that it didn’t kill him. I would still love to see Stu return

[@BushyJJ]

I Agree

[@TheValoisMadness]

I also agree. Stu was the best character in the first movie, in my opinion.

[@socialjusticelogic6290]

@The Shocker It wasn't realistic either for Amber to make ''one last scare"..After being shot multiple times and then being burned alive .. In the scream universe, the killers are superhuman for whatever reason. so anything is possible.

[@socialjusticelogic6290]

@The Shocker Mickey came back even though he was shot several times..and Amber too..that seems fatal to me

[@socialjusticelogic6290]

@The Shocker Lol you don't rise up after being shot 3 times in the chest ,especially with no bulletproof vest.

[@lilenwasnothere6867]

if he ever does somehow come back, the reveal NEEDS to be him saying "surprise, sidney" again.

[@lisagross5315]

I always thought the same thing.

[@filmsnat3428]

If he wasn't going to come back, they wouldn't have added that line in Scream 6 "If you believe he's dead." - They already set him up for a return.

[@gupster489]

THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING

[@theovernightresults9647]

I'll always want Stu to come back and never give up hope that he's still alive

[@theotherguy21]

@Random they're heavily hinting at him being alive

[@rudy8146]

Think about Stu's personality and how it would be VERY thrilling for a killer reveal scene. We would see some crazy personality characteristics following what would otherwise be hidden behind the Ghostface costume throughout the movie until the reveal scene. Just imagine him pulling off the mask and having some deeply satisfying reason for his decades-later appearance.

[@jessebaker2769]

On the other hand, I'd rather they just be upfront with Stu coming back if they did so. Revamping Scream to a villain protagonist direction could revitalize the film series in a lot of ways as far as switching to a POV of Stu as Ghostface killing people.

[@rudy8146]

@@jessebaker2769 , I think you bring up very interesting points. However, I'm not sure how we'd make a whole movie out of Stu trying to hunt Sidney down. There would be no need for the costume at that point. He would just try to kill her and be done with it. No need to hide his identity. Every Scream movie has the traditional killer reveal scene, which would make sense because nobody knows who he/she/they are the entire movie. So, that would eliminate those iconic scenes. Part of the thrill is not knowing who the killer is. I think if they made a movie about him planning to kill Sidney and then trying to do it, it would be a flop. Not interesting at all. There HAS to be a level of suspense and mystery to keep the audience interested.

[@justineharper3346]

Ever since I’ve heard that this was the original plan, it’s been my head canon that Stu is still alive out there, waiting for a chance to take revenge. He’s still my favorite Ghostface. I would love to see him come back

[@joshturner7400]

Here’s my thing… I think it’s perfectly reasonable to say he survived the TV crushing his face with only major injuries. What I think is too unrealistic and would make it non-believable was that he somehow kept quiet for 25+ years and nobody once mentioned he was alive and in prison. Sidney would 10000% know about this if it were the case and it would’ve been mentioned by now. If they’d done it in Scream 3 it would’ve been fine, but now it’s far too late.

[@jameslyon2338]

they never really mention Stu being dead though, so they could all be aware he's alive and in prison. it makes sense he'd never be a suspect again since he's in prison.

[@joshturner7400]

@@jameslyon2338 It would’ve been mentioned at least once though, especially in the most recent film where he’s brought up multiple times. Surely someone would’ve said “oh yeah Stu’s locked up in prison, the only killer to ever serve a sentence”

[@jameslyon2338]

@@joshturner7400 I don't agree. It's easily tied together, for example Ritchie and Amber could have visited Stu in prison. And as I said, Stu would be irrelevant while he's locked up since he'd never be a suspect.

[@joshturner7400]

@@jameslyon2338 But again, they would’ve mentioned it, regardless of he’s a suspect or not. If people are talking about 1 of only 9 Ghostfaces, I’m sure they’d clarify if there was something different about him. Not to mention, if Amber and Richie visited him in prison then they also would’ve bragged about that when explaining their motive to Sam/Sidney, but they didn’t. They would’ve loved to have had the opportunity to say that they met a legacy Ghostface in the flesh and got advice for him, but they don’t bring it up. Just because it’s a cool idea to have Stu alive doesn’t mean it makes sense logically. Good filmmaking comes before cool ideas, and unfortunately this idea would break the rules of storytelling within the current context.

[@jameslyon2338]

@@joshturner7400 why would they have mentioned it? They didn't do a summary on every kill, they didn't mention, Micky, Roman or anyone else. The idea Stu would need to be mentioned doesn't track.

[@StarshineGoomba]

I mean, if that was the orignal concept for the original trilogy of the Scream franchise, then yes. I would absolutely like to see how Stu would have survived the finale of the first film. I wouldn't even mind seeing an "alternate universe" entry to the series now that we know that this was Kevin Williamson's original intent. If nothing else, it would fit the definition of "re-quel" better than what Scream (2022) had.

[@jimbowlan5804]

It was willamsons orginal 3 till columbine happened and dimension wouldn’t allow blood or gore so they ordered rewrite and I think he was busy writing h20 at that time. He actually saved that script and changed it to the following tv show

[@BareBandSubscription]

Scream 5 was the most requel-ass requel there’s ever been. Not sure I get your knock on it there.

[@anthonyparker1869]

I feel like they really should make this storyline happen! It is too good not to push forward for a new story! Also, they still could've pushed the story line forward even considering the columbine massacre.

[@bigtimebecks4091]

True!

[@asking_the_empire1452]

No the issue is we are 25 years later so how would you just explain him being there this whole time never being referenced ir anything besides being dead?

[@wallicagilchrist803]

@@asking_the_empire1452 His named being shamed and forgotten, being disfigured, Billy gettin all the press... all of it comes into play. He is an original. He could've been Ramon's partner in Scream 3 imo. Always there but never mentioned. That would be far less sloppy compared to Scream.

[@Jon-xd7ng]

A killer in a small town would not just slide by, he would be the shame of the town for generations. Everyone would know all about his sentence, his whereabouts, Sidney would have been a part of the trial as one of the key witnesses etc. If he would come back after 27 years, it would be like a storyline from a daytime soap opera like Days of our lives, you know like when someone's suddenly has an evil twin. Still I respect that people liked the character and would love to see him back, I just really doubt it could be anything but a stretch after such a long time.

[@wallicagilchrist803]

@@Jon-xd7ng that is why the killer wouldn't live in the small town, he would be outside that jurisdiction. Travel at night Time mostly. If he had a partner in law enforcement it would make it easier for him to stay under the radar.

[@davidwalker3198]

I feel like we don't appreciate Beyond The Mask enough. His content based around just 5 films has always been consistent. Huge respect.

[@RonDamian]

Facts!

[@ayascamdzic3827]

Yeah but I don't really like the "THE REAL REASON WHYYYY" videos that he makes,they are fun and interesting but when you think about it,they are actually just like made up,they could MAYBE be actually real but till it's confirmed,it isn't.

[@brannondunlap3408]

I could agree more. I'm a big fan of this channel..The Videos have such interesting topics about the franchise and like you said David they are always about the same amount of time. Easily watchable.

[@hermanacevedo8877]

Agree. This channel is amazing

[@isaiah9496]

HUGE RESPECT!!

[@sandragoth8293]

This was at the press tour in 2019. I was there with a friend. He said a lot more than has been said in this video, basically they wanted a cultist movement in the 3rd movie with all the alleged killed characters being in on messing with Sidney. He said stu survived his injuries and was disfigured from them. He mentioned Matthew Lillard, Wes Craven and dimension were game right up until they ordered rewrites and Kevin wasn’t available. He also said he didn’t enjoy scream 3, the only thing he liked was parker posey

[@ayascamdzic3827]

Alleged killed characters?

[@mikealan1984]

Parker posey stole that movie

[@Littlegreen42]

@@ayascamdzic3827 The victims of the killers in the film would've been in on it.

[@ChrisAtheist]

Would be a great idea to reveal in scream 6 a cultist movement which is only mentioned once and in scream 7 this cultist movement is the main story With hundred killer's who killing thought the whole country ,and s few targeting all survivors of scream 1-6 including their family members and friend's

[@ayascamdzic3827]

@@ChrisAtheist nah it doesn't fit the scream vibe,it would be better like having 4 killing sprees at once,more than that is to much

[@magicisbs]

It’s pretty much been confirmed without being confirmed (if that makes sense) that Stu Macher is alive. It was always Wes Craven’s vision and there are even clues that he is alive in Scream 5. Also every time there has been a mention of Stu’s name in the franchise, there is never confirmation of his death.

[@pjdaking432]

This is facts!

[@jasminejamaleddin2484]

Kirby even said in 6 that "that's the TV that killed stu" and Mindy replied with "if you believe he's dead"

[@megachristianx6592]

@@jasminejamaleddin2484 haven’t seen scream 6 but that would be a weird line since a killer would be facing prison time and if the body disappeared they would all know about it.

[@mrcritical6751]

Honestly throughout Scream 6 as they were going backwards through the Ghostface masks I was totally expecting the ending to be only one mark being left that being Stu’s and they’d take the mask off to reveal him

[@Guyvermectin]

Except it’s never been confirmed and your dumb statement doesn’t make sense

[@anthonystrader8958]

I really like the idea of Stu surviving where he could leading a bunch of ghostface cult in scream 7 I think Stu survived the TV crushing with his face with major injuries of his face my theory on Stu surving is that his mother and father use their money / connections to keep their sons survival quiet and with a deal being taken that he'd be locked away in a mental Asylum for the criminally insane for most of his life until a few years before the events of Scream 5 where he's then released into his parents custody who at this time have moved far away from Woodsboro, and while locked away in this Asylum He’s been working in the shadows as the mastmind which bring back Sidney for one last time between them for scream 7

[@cROSSingth3RUBICon]

I'd watch the fuck out of that movie

[@unknownuser1525]

Is it bad that I think Stu SHOULD kill Sidney? Then if worse Tara or Sam kills Stu.

[@adamtantanini9708]

Couldn’t it just be that he wasn’t double tapped? They always say that the killer comes back for one final scare and they never had him do that. Sidney or anyone never killed him after his death like billy, Mickey, Billy’s mum (double tapped before she could come back) etc

[@theresajoyner1069]

I love Stu Macher and I would absolutely love to see that story come to life on the big screen! In fact I was totally disappointed that he was brought back for The Scream 2022 movie since they had Billy Loomis back as a ghost vision! I'm hoping that this will still happen maybe with the new franchise!!! #stu lives # Stu Train

[@rastazorastra1772]

In my head he’s alive and that’s cannon. He’s been working in the shadows, cult of Stu started with Scream 5 at very least. Or quite possibly earlier. There is no way to this day that little girl killed Dewey, stabbed him in the back lifted him in the air via pure strength and gutted him before he said “it’s an honor”. That Ghostface was much taller than Dewey, almost 6 ft something, It felt like unfinished business, Stu stabbed Dewey in the back in Scream. Finally got to finish what he started. I get it for those that say Ghostface size doesn’t matter blah blah it does when it’s that differential and the mysterious of the 2nd killer location is present, Ritchie was at the hospital as well, almost got stabbed in the process, that Ghostface even said I will show you what happens when you interfere in business that doesn’t concern you. As if Ritchie was stepping out of line from the script he and the bitch was given. Furthermore in the original Scream that method was how Stu described how he’d kill someone. I think Stu grooms one of the two killers and gets that one to fool a 2nd, only 1 of them knowing a piece of the puzzle at a time. Amber (I think was her name, knew about Stu). Part of me wants to say - So did Billy’s mom, Roman and the girl Emma roberts played. Everyone else was the 2nd fool who got manipulated or tricked to be an accomplice

[@DavidKen878]

Working in the shadows? The mental gymnastics you all will go through just to run with this narrative is hilarious.

[@megachristianx6592]

Why is no one talking about how you can’t just kill a bunch of people and not be in prison?

[@WuwuWuwuTV]

Incorrect. She never lifts Dewey off the ground. Dewey slides down the knife and the ghostface is on their tippy toes. You are repeating a myth you heard online.

[@skywalker3675]

I still think Stu can come back. Especially (without spoilers) the way the 6th one just ended I def think he can come back

[@jeremychannel333]

I support it basically because it was Kevin Williamson's idea & the fact that we no longer have Wes Craven; I believe that bringing back the iconic character & superstar actor Matthew Lillard as Stu Macher would be a bold move & would be terrifying for Sidney Prescott's character aka Neve Campbell & that would add a new elelment & also bring back a super scary villain & the last one I'd say that had validity & was unseeable & twisted was Jill in Scream 4 she was indeed very twisted & I just think that Stu Macher coming back would be a fresh new twist that the Scream franchise has never attempted before & all of the addicted crazy fan killers & family killers is overused & it would help change things up a bit in my opinion!

[@slashersandfoundfootage6726]

Continued: “In one severe incident, a 4-year-old child left the bathroom to go to his room to get clothes from a dresser. A 27-inch or 32-inch CRT TV was on top of the dresser. As the child was getting clothes from the dresser, the dresser and TV fell onto the child. The mother discovered the child unconscious under the dresser and TV. The incident caused severe neck and head injuries, which included fractures to the skull. The incident resulted in a 2-week hospitalization with 1 week in the intensive care unit. The long-term effects of the injury included a speech impediment requiring speech therapy. (Reference 368)” so imagine a grown man holding his hands up.

[@ashleighsteaparty268]

Save a Stu comeback to the very last film, he comes back and finally finishes Sydney off

[@clarkesteinman5098]

I feel like him surviving the stab wounds is the crazy part. But I’ll add to that with a spoiler from Scream 6: If you’re ok with Chad surviving, then Stu should be no problem.

[@D00R]

Killing Randy took away from the franchise more than anything…

[@dustyyeager7653]

Would be easy to resurrect him. He’s pronounced dead on the scene, but comes to on the way to the morgue. Government officials lock him away as a massive coverup bc they want to avoid the sensationalism of a trial and the chance he’d be an influence on teens. Gale uncovers the conspiracy during research or ghostface leaves clues at each crime scene leading to the discovery of Stu. He could have been named as the creator of dreadit, and been the mastermind behind Richie and Amber.

[@neondeion12]

If the government was worried about sensationalism and wanted to stop sensationalism then they failed because the murders became extremely popular with the public and lead to countless books/movies.

[@Ghostface-1996]

Here’s what i think: I think when the police came Stu Macher was still alive and they were going to help him recover, then arrest him, but i think his parents bought there way through to not have him go to jail. Basically bribe them.

[@burmiester1]

I did some research on CRTs and calculated the exact amount of electricity in one. A CRT like that would not only weigh the better part of 100 pounds with 1-2 inches of glass, but based on my research, there's enough voltage running through a tube to electrocute a person like 10 times over. Also, Stu surviving would be ridiculous since it was never mentioned in 4 prior movies.

[@sleepcrime]

People have survived much less likely things in scream. Why would anyone have mentioned it before? Doesn't really matter that much, he was never confirmed dead.

[@burmiester1]

@@sleepcrime When has anyone survived something less likely? I literally can't think of anything. Mickey's the closest example I can even think of and he still got wasted. Even Mickey is more likely to survive being shot 20 times than Stu is surviving what is basically a 100 pound particle accelerator dropped on his head

[@ImFeelinALittleWoozyHere]

People have survived ten plus lightning strikes so imagine something like a CRT. By the way, others have done their research and it all just came back to documents supporting why it is likely Stu would survive. KZbin “Craven Something Scary The People vs Stu Macher” for a deep analysis. They had fourteen or so objections to the theory Stu would even survive and did a good job IMO (could always be better but yeah). They came prepped.

[@ImFeelinALittleWoozyHere]

And that’s kinda the point. It was scrapped and they just moved forward, forgetting about Stu. It was the original concept nonetheless. He has motivation now if he were to be revealed alive. This trilogy is going back to the past and keep in mind Radio Silence themselves said they are fans of Stu on top of many other things in interviews.

[@ImFeelinALittleWoozyHere]

@The Shocker 🙄 If you lose more than 40 percent of your blood, you will die. This is about 2,000 mL or 0.53 gallons of blood in the average adult. Stu didn’t even have enough blood on his shirt to even entertain the idea he was bleeding out FOR REAL (in real life) which means he wouldn’t die from blood loss much less on screen. It would have to be soaked. I’ve seen that much soaked on a shirt in some films and in a video. By the way, I know if someone is stabbed or seriously bleeding they may also feel anxious, dizzy, they’re a bit confused and their brain suffers from the lack of oxygenated blood too. I get dude was rambling and his dizziness showed in the way he delivered “I’m feeling a little woozy here.” but it’s inconsistency in his “death” either way ya know? The electrification wouldn’t happen but that’s theatrics. I brought up some facts about CRT’s that the original writer here refused to mention in comments on this video as well so has others in other videos of people talking about Stu. Shoot, some bring up their own experiences. It’s just nothing to dispute over. Stu could come back but it’s such a taboo death that many think is impossible to conquer. I encourage you to KZbin search ‘Craven Something Scary The People vs Stu Macher’ for an ALL AROUND look.

[@v1per187]

WOW! I think I speak for most SCREAM fans, and Stu coming back for Scream 7 as the mastermind from 5 and 6 is what NEEDS to happen.... We want this so bad.... so so so badly!

[@MichaelAMyers1957]

The opening scene of scream 5 made me believe Stew was involved with the killings. When playing the phone games, ghostface got a little salty that billy was the only one mentioned as the killer.

[@amberkrumenauer6694]

SAME! It really had my hopes up that he would be one of the killers. I was pissed that he wasn’t

[@Jaysonluhrell]

Now if they had’ve confirmed that Stu was still alive at some point and the characters mentioned it a few times throughout the series… then his involvement in 6 would be logical. In fact, could’ve had him released from prison before the events of 6 so that he would be a logical suspect… and then have him re-emerge, but not as the killer… as the hero. He changed his life in prison and decides to target the new ghostface killer in order to put a stop to what he feels he started. Of course he would have to die in the process. But at least he would be somewhat redeemed. Now that would be cool… but naw he dead 💀

[@rastazorastra1772]

If you watch Scream 5 with subtitles they mention Stu not in past-tense, as if he’s alive and locked up somewhere in a loony tune

[@slashersandfoundfootage6726]

Something I clipped: “About 88 percent (261/296) of incidents involved CRT TVs. Table 4 showed the breakdown of the TV type involved in the incident - either a CRT (cathode ray tube) or flat screen. The CRT is an older type of TV that contains a large vacuum tube as the display. A CRT TV typically has the center of gravity closer to the front because of the weight of the CRT near the front of TV. Flat-screen TVs (flat) are a newer type of TVs that uses plasma, LED, or LCD displays, and they typically weigh less than CRT TVs of the same screen size. Typically, the type of TV that was involved in the incident was reported. Three percent of the reports did not identify the type of TV (unknown).”

[@footballgeorgiebest]

I loved Kevin Williamson’s ‘ The Following ‘ with Kevin Bacon. Very similar storyline where serial killer/cult leader James Purefoy gets his followers to kill for him.

[@superhippie2000]

First season was good but like really disturbing. Second season was a let down :(

[@kevinconway2965]

Kevin Williamson has said that he used the concept for Scream 3 and turned it into The Following.

[@jaward51]

VI pretty much is setting up a Stu return in 7. 😊

[@magicthespian6866]

I think a Stu Macher survival would be brilliant. Especially with the broken facial bones and scars all over his face - it would have created a monster for the franchise. Stu Macher would be Freddy, Jason or Michael - and then Screams own realistic-world universe would have a very real Monster that could also truly exist in our own in a very organic way. I think it’s wonderful.

[@NoCallerID70457]

Nobody cares about what you think.

[@clairepenfold6432]

My mum’s a nurse and she said it’s very very very highly unlikely that Stu would survive the TV crushing his head but if he survives it will be some sort of movie logic

[@s0dafizz50]

Even matt Said, somthing like ‘I will drop a tv on my head to prove that he is alive’ And skeet responded ‘Can I help?’ 😂

[@ghostfacestreet6523]

Scream 3 we got >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Williamson’s scream 3 (Don’t hate me)

[@BrandonJames2016]

Naw I agree I prefer what we got over stupid cult idea.

[@CaptBrightside89]

I think its a great idea, I don't think its too unrealistic as far as movies go. I'd have loved to have Matthew Lillard back in the role and there is a lot of potential in Stu's character (I think he's more than just Billy's lap dog). I am very open to the idea of Stu returning somehow - not in totally unconvincing hallucination form though - although I have no idea how they can achieve it without suspension of disbelief breaking retcons.

[@dicloniusgames]

This would've been a great plot for Scream 5 considering they go back to Stu's old house. Sid finds out Stu survived the attack and he's been plotting everything since Scream 2. How Kevin Williamson would've wrote how Stu survived may seem stupid, but it also seems plausible. Some crushed bones in his face and maybe gets reconstructive surgery and possibly a new identity to fool people until the big reveal.

[@Unpopularmuffin]

I had high hopes that it was going to be him. And was let down :/ if he was ever going to come back this would have been the one

[@NevanSlone]

At this point just make a new Scream that takes place in another multiverse with Stu’s story. I just really want to see it lol

[@tdlpedro2009]

I always thought from the first time I saw Scream that the TV to the face wouldn't kill him. Firstly, I know that in the film it did, but I never thought the glass would actually break. I grew up with a TV like that, and the thing was near indestructible. Second, I don't think that was necessarily a fatal wound. Again, I know in movies, it's kind of up to the screenwriter what wounds are fatal (think of how many movie characters died with the same wounds Dewey got in just one movie, let alone all of them). But I always thought it seemed odd that that was what killed Stu. I think him coming back would be great. Maybe they'll do it in 6 or save it for a final showdown between Sidney and Stu in Scream 7.

[@wesstewart2677]

Bruh he got stabbed multiple times by Billy prior to that, got bit in the wrist by Sidney which would’ve drew more blood, then gets hit with a vase on the head, and finally gets a tv to the head. He’s dead…I don’t care how y’all spin it. He’s dead. If he didn’t die during the final confrontation, he would’ve died in the hospital for sure.

[@Dontannoyme34894]

@@wesstewart2677 I don’t get why Sydney throws the gun away if she knew stew was in the kitchen.

[@wesstewart2677]

@@Dontannoyme34894 she didn’t throw the gun away? Sidney didn’t have the gun until Billy’s death…which occurred after Sidney had dropped the tv on Stu. Stu was lying in the living room dead, when Billy gets killed

[@Dontannoyme34894]

@@wesstewart2677 she took the gun out of Billy’s pocket and threw it across the room. THEN Stu charged at her immediately after

[@wesstewart2677]

@@Dontannoyme34894 oh yeah you right. I mean in the sequence before Stu openly yells that he thinks he’s dying. “You cut me deep Billy, I think I’m dying” she probably thought Stu was too far gone at the point when she stabbed Billy with the umbrella. And tbh I kinda thought Stu was dead at that point the first time I saw the movie

[@mohammedfaiisal]

1:50. Jill call back from electrocution in scream 4 but then got shot in the head. So if she can get up shortly after being electrocuted, then I don't see why Stu can't. Also, Mickey never got shot in the head in scream 2. It would be great if the plot twist was, both of them were alive

[@patrickdempsy14]

This is the best channel for scream content tbh

[@stephenmcclellan7320]

The only way I would've been onboard with this outcome was if they made it abundantly clear in Scream 2 that Stu survived. Even if he didn't appear in the second movie that'd be fine, but it definitely would've needed at least a few lines of dialogue, possibly between Sidney and Randy, where they mention Stu being alive/in prison. Or even just show it on a news clip like when the news reporter at the start talks about the Stab premiere murders, they could casually mention the killers who Stab was based on and that Stu made a statement from prison that he was excited to see the movie, idk. But if they only mention he survived for the first time in Scream 3 would've felt like a stupid retcon that tarnished the storyline for Scream2. If they executed this properly though I wouldn't have been mad about it

[@Brian5mb]

i think it would have given it away if they revealed that.

[@nolaray1062]

I agree. It seems so strange for all these movies and all these years to go by and not even a mention in passing. Had it been mentioned earlier in the timeline I would have been ok with it.

[@lafayette230]

I want stu to have survived but it would be kinda sad that he would have to live on without billy because he very obviously cared deeply for billy

[@fiftyfadesofgrey]

I’m just like you. Your channel is based around horror slasher genre. And I wish it be fall season year around. Then again, we wouldn’t have the same appreciation for that time of year. I’d still watch your channel year around.

[@Soulcrusher820]

If you think about it, the killers always come back. And Stu didn’t really come back after he “died”. Plus killers have survived way worse than what happened to Stu

[@gupster489]

YOUR SO RIGHT

[@Flawedread]

I feel like if it was a TV of today it would've been very possible he survived it, but that was a huge TV. Still would've been cool to see his character come back.

[@sarahedwards1541]

Yeah those tvs are no joke I had one when I was younger and they are very heavy and with him being electrocuted I’m not sure how much someone could survive that

[@iamdynez]

That’s what i was thinking...those TVs were so big and juicy with that thick glass

[@LightshaverConstellation]

Yes. I have a comparable tv from 90s still and it is heavy. I can't imagine someone living if it fell on thier head like that.

[@mexicanperrito]

Wait I just realized remember the reference they always come back well Stu didn’t get that only Billy did in scream 1

[@86TheMedia]

Did a short for u on youtube. Love the channel brother. Can't wait for 6. Hope they do it justice

[@angelmontano423]

I want him to come back but i think he should wear billy’s mask and i wish billy never died

[@puffykitten31]

Hey if you wanna bring back Matthew Lillard I am TOTALLY okay with that. He’s such a great actor and his character Stu is my favorite from the Scream franchise.

[@mc_howell]

I think your voice is so interesting I could honestly listen to anything you post

[@nicksmyth8531]

When have the Scream sequels ever been about being realistic? This concept would have been great. 🔥

[@fabiocampo2869]

Also rewatching Scream, AFTER the TV is done electrocuting his face, Stu lets out a groan. And he never lets out one last scare like Billy and the other killers did

[@stuartmason9172]

No one has mentioned him in the films for like 26 years. If he was still alive wouldn’t he have come up in conversation in scream 2-5, when they were trying to figure out who the murderers are? That said considering Amber lived in Stu’s house I feel that there will be a link between them in future films

[@SlasherHorrorMovies1]

Well they never said he was dead either. So yea

[@SlasherHorrorMovies1]

Also if sidney returns for scream 7 and is the focus again u know its personal and that it has to be someone she knows

[@angelothehorrorfan5013]

@@SlasherHorrorMovies1 they did

[@angelothehorrorfan5013]

@@SlasherHorrorMovies1 they said scream 6 will be the last

[@SlasherHorrorMovies1]

@@angelothehorrorfan5013 who did?

[@connorjake454]

Omg if Stu is back , this is going to be GOOOOOOD

[@dottedjade]

I was really hoping Stu was returning for the most recent film but was gutted that he didnt. I’m still holding on to hope that he will make a come back because his character was and is still my all time favourite ghostface ❤

[@maxmartinez8374]

if u pay attention he’s still breathing after

[@Falcon5698]

I remember when i watched scream the 1st time i was wondering if Stu was still alive cus i didnt buy that death. It was kind of stupid anyway, so could of totally believed he survived. Dewy survived all those stabbings in the 1st and 2nd movie, so weve seen characters tank severe injuries.

[@sydneygreen163]

i love how consistent you are with your vids and your dedication to getting as close as you can to the facts big respect 🫡

[@megcollier3588]

Agree with u on this

[@Dontannoyme34894]

@@megcollier3588 ditto

[@daltomono]

You think it's crazy for Stu to come back from that or would want it to make sense when Dewey was stabbed like a million times in one night and survived with no explanation? Lol this franchise has so many unexplained survivors

[@TheSYPHERIA]

Yes it's EXTREMELY realistic that you can survive that because IT HAPPEND TO ME IN REAL LIFE. I was playing with my brother and I was like 14 and we had that same type of tv. We were fighting on the floor and slammed into the cabinet that had the tv on it. I was on my back and put my hands up and all it did was sprain my wrist and break the glass. The glass broke into two big pieces but never came out of the tv. It wasn't plugged in because we were going to put it upstairs but then it broke. I've also been shot by a 357 twice (two times at the same time) and survived that--- so YES, STU COULD HAVE EASILY SURVIVED. The human body can take unbelievable damage

[@Lei-AICPhD]

Please God I need Scream 7 to be Stu as the ultimate

[@freakshowfilmfestival3591]

I wish after she dropped the mask in Scream 6, Stu picked up the mask, because it was actually his mask, not Billy's.

[@dmartz1991]

I loved the tv series The Following, which took this premise and did a fantastic job with it

[@sgillman16]

Wes Craven himself said this was ridiculous and never going to happen

[@icaliver]

We have to be careful with “What if” scenarios. Let’s not forget the Original Scream 2 Sid was supposed to be killed off, thanks goodness she wasn’t. BUT I would love to have seen and Ghostface v Ghostface having Mickey survive his gunshots (which no way all those bullets hit Mickey) take on Stu in some sick game of finish the final girl.

[@Therealissa98]

I am so grateful for your content. I love Kevin Williamson’s writing I really wish he wrote for the new trilogy.

[@televisionqueen2465]

Your channel is amazing

[@BeyondThePaleStudios]

The average person (about 72 inches tall and 180lbs) can withstand up to 11,000 watts. That tv appeared to be a 32"-36" box tv. They had a peak wattage of about 200 watts...the 30" tvs weighed at most 65 lbs...but keep in mind that the screen broke and his face mostly went inside of the mostly hallow box. The main weight landed on his collar bone and shoulders. Could he have died, yes, most likely in fact....is there a chance he didn't, also, yes...I have seen far more fatal things happen to people in this same franchise and they survived...Dewey got stabbed at the end of 1, 2, 3, 4 and finally died in 5...it was an on going gag and we were all fine with him coming out alive even though his supposed death got worse every time...gale had her guts reorganized twice, even Sydney got her own brutality in 4...I think with a little movie magic explained by medical science, it is possible for stu to survive... I have a theory how this would all work...but I'm saving it now for a pitch...with the other writers kind of backing away (apparently) with Jenna ortega...maybe they will be in the market for a new perspective ;) get at me Hollywood, I've got you.

[@jamesauber8622]

Michael Myers’s died a bunch of times. But he always comes back

[@terriann321]

Apparently the scrapped idea of Stu surviving and leading a bunch of other killers was re-worked to be the idea behind Kevin Williamson's tv show The Following, which is worth a watch.

[@adamandanna]

and sorry it didn;t work. I watched that show all three seasons, it was just ridiculous hard to say if it could have worked for scream 3 but outside of kevin bacon and the main serial killer who was good. it ridiculous concept. Serial killers the majority of the time our outcasts and loners. cultists are more lonely followers but serial killers aren;t known for getting together and having barbecues, But who knows maybe as scream 3, it could have worked for a movie but as a series ughh

[@davonfryar-frazier435]

​@adamandanna It started out well. If they had stretched it out more, it would have worked better. They didn't work out the intricacies well, and it was on the CW. It would have done better on HBO or Netflix.

[@domlikesbaddecks9642]

Check out the show the following, Kevin Williamson was on that show as something I just can't remember and the plot is eerily similar to his plot for scream 3

[@Duckymann1390]

Stu was supposed to come back in scream 3 i don't know how it can change for scream 7

[@R.P.McMurphy]

I really hate the idea of Stu surviving. Not only I don't see him plotting anything like other killers did, but the reason we needed Scream 4 is to make Ghostface return to its original concept. Ghostface doesn't work if he has a definitive true identity, like Scream 3 suggested. So, there can't be a "truer" Ghostface than others. Also, the idea of asking who is Ghostface this time, what are their motivations and how it connects to the themes of the franchise, gets lost if we already know the person behind the mask and their motivations from the start.

[@bobbieburson5825]

I always thought the tv was survivable. Would love to see Stu come back....Matthew Lillard is a legend!

[@manoftomorrow79]

Kevin Williamson's idea made no sense in how he would revive Stu for his version of Scream 3 despite whatever bullshit scenario he tried to pull off. You have to take the third act into account when addressing Scream 3 after Billy went nuts stabbing Stu he begged Billy to stop because he was feeling weak. Then after Sidney called them he responded to Billy "I can't Billy you cut me too deep I think i'm dying here man!" Then finally when Stu confronted Sidney he's already had plenty of blood loss occur so when Sidney drops the tv on his head not only would the weight of the tv cave in his head. But glass shards would go into his face, neck, and eyes causing more blood loss if not fatally wounding him, and finally, the electrocution by the time police and EMTs would arrive Stu would be dead. Even Wes Craven in the original audio commentary for the film with Kevin Williamson said that Stu died in the film so there's no way Kevin could excuse all those facts to bring Stu back.

[@Mrjedi5787]

Literally like I would have said okay. Maybe there's a chance he's alive if he only got stabbed multiple times because people in The scream franchise literally survive that most of the time but anyways yeah there's no chance he's alive because he literally got stabbed like four times and to add insult to injury. He got a TV pushed on his head and got full-on electrocuted

[@creeperfeature4937]

Certainly isn’t ridiculous, I’ve seen people survive much worse that what happened to Stu 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@LuckyBROCKE08]

3:42 DONT YOU BLAME THE MOVIES, MOVIES DONT CREATE PSYCOS MOVIES MAKE PSYCOS MORE CREATIVE

[@kingstewy]

It didn't land on his head. Watch again. It fell on his hands.

[@elysecatmull3404]

I think if they could do it in a way that wasn’t over the top ridiculous, sure. I’d be down for that

[@A-Kira]

A dream would come true if stu returned in scream 6 🖤🔪🩸👻

[@ayascamdzic3827]

It more likely that he'll be in 7

[@A-Kira]

@@ayascamdzic3827 why?

[@BrandonJames2016]

@@A-Kira because it’s the finale of a new trilogy so if they had to bring him back the conclusion would make sense even tho I don’t want him to come back

[@A-Kira]

@@BrandonJames2016 It would make more sense to bring him back in part 6 and let him live to go back in part 7

[@BrandonJames2016]

@@A-Kira why if Neve as Sidney (presumably only shows up for the end credits) isn’t in the movie and Matthew Lilard called paramount sexists that totally sounds like he’s willing to work with them for scream 6 right. He has no reason to attack Sam who is the main target now he doesn’t even know of her existence and has no drive to kill her or any motive to kill again cause he knows what happens when you mess with either Sidney or Sam you get murdered.

[@GoviBenefits]

Y’all might be too young to know just how heavy those tvs were, buts a box tv to the head is killing you.

[@Zombiesrule93]

The original idea for part 3 makes me wish they just waited instead of changing the script especially since there was scheduling problems for the main cast. Had they waited a few years maybe even having the original idea for Scream 3 be released in 2006, the 10 year anniversary of the first movie could have benefited it

[@ringmaster7866]

Let’s say even if he was alive he has no reason to be going after Sam he likely didn’t even know she existed this makes no sense they better not bring him Back if they do it better be a Flashback or a ghost sequence

[@ayascamdzic3827]

He would be after her and the other survivors if he made the cult thing to kill survivors

[@theresajoyner1069]

Yes it could because Billy has been getting all the credit basically for all those murders and what better way for Stu to get back is to kill Billy's daughter

[@ayascamdzic3827]

@@theresajoyner1069 lmao they were 50/50 about the murders

[@theresajoyner1069]

@@ayascamdzic3827 in scream 5 they lated the ground work because when ghostface called Tara (he, she) got mad that people seemed to have forgotten Stu Macher! That's the point I'm making! So don't try to be so condescending!

[@ayascamdzic3827]

@@theresajoyner1069 lmao all I'm saying is that Stu killed people too

[@victorrocha5755]

Matt and Tyler are the worst directors ever. They completely changed Billy's storyline so it could fit with the men's lady story of him getting random unkown girls pregnant in Scream 5 so it could fit with the whole fan service of adding Skeet Ulrich as a "Soul/Nghtmare/Hallucination" for Sam, do you honestly think they won't change everything else in Stu's, Mickey's, Mrs. Loomis storylines as well??? Scream ended it's franchise with Wes Craven. These two shitheads just simply will never achieve what Wes had created. The two minds of them couldn't even create a motivation for Richie and Amber to kill.

[@oioi9372]

Isn't it strange, how Stu Macher exists as a person forever? I mean, no matter him being a fictional character, we all know him. We know who he is.

[@ricomarcelmusic]

I don't care what anybody says, NOBODY can have a big screen tv FROM THE 90s fall on their head ad survive.... Lol HAS ANYBODY tried LIFTING a big screen FRM THE 90S??? LOLOLOL

[@davidostrowski679]

I don't understand the fascination with Stu. He was a back up killer/accomplice. It's like Charlie coming back for some reason. Or Angelina Tyler! LOL. Plus there's no way on earth Sidney, Gale or Dewey or ANYONE wouldn't be aware that he had survived

[@heathermarie3672]

It’s because he was dismissed as a lapdog and a complete follower of Billy. But he clearly had his own issues and his own motive. He’s an interesting character. Thanks to Matthew Lillard, in large part.

[@darealberrygarcia]

Stu should definitely return

[@ghostface9944]

I love the Scream 3 that we got. I think it was the best to make it extremely personal and the killer connected to Sidney in such a close way like Roman was. I don't like this idea for Scream 3, but I do like it for Scream 7. I would expand upon it, though. I'd make it to where Stu broke out of prison at the end as well and came for Sidney, in addition the cult of killers running around town.

[@ayascamdzic3827]

Stu is more likely to be in a psychiatric clinic.And sidney and Roman were only close by blood lol nothing more

[@ghostface9944]

@@ayascamdzic3827 Nothing more? How much closer could they be? lol Where are the people with brains I can argue with?

[@superhippie2000]

I think it would be cool if the series ended with Stu being behind all the killings in 4 5 and 6. The first 3 movies were personal. i cant fully remember scream 4 since its been a while since i watched but it seemed like the alst 2 movies the killers were more concerned with fame or proving a point even tho they had no real connection to sydney or anything as far as why the original movie killings happened that were set up by Roman. Id like to think Stu was in prison to begin with but was moved to a psych ward where he had more freedom to move around the place. He could have easily used chatrooms/social media to recruit people that had easy access to Sydney and the town. Like when terrorist groups target depressed loner type kids online to work for them. He finds these people and learns things about them and then contacts them. Like all he had to do was stalk Billys daughter online to find out info in order to get that one dude to get involved and he connected him to that girl killer based on her internet activity. I think Stu being the killer for the last movie could involve one of the killers in Scream 6 be someone who works at the prison or looney bin who breaks Stu out. That killer dies in the end and have the cliffhanger going into Scream 7 be Stu taking the mask from the crime scene. Of course dont show its Stu until the 7th movies reveal.

[@ayascamdzic3827]

@@ghostface9944 first of all say that to your mom who raised you to be impolite

[@ayascamdzic3827]

@@superhippie2000 oh God the stu thing again....

[@Unicorngod666]

They could bring him back now

[@thehorrornoobs5481]

Stu is Dead…It’s one thing to have Kirby back after only one movie, seeing as her survival was confirmed in Scream 5 but Stu died back in the first movie that’s damn near 30 years…If he was alive it would be confirmed by the news media throughout the movies…He’s dead and you can take it to the bank.

[@TheNorthRaven]

This would be one of the biggest movie moments of the decade. Just idea is so thrilling.

[@TheTurkaderr]

It would have been fun, but it would have basically sort of been a rehash of what Kevin did with Part 2 with Billy's mom being the killer, even though this would have been more direct. Side note: Kevin Williamson got the idea for SCREAM while watching coverage of the Gainesville ripper killings in Florida in the early 90's. The killer, Danny Rolling, was from my hometown of Shreveport. And next week, Skeet, Matthew Lillard and Jamie Kennedy are gonna be at our local geek'd Con. God I hope I get to go and meet them!

[@kingmopey7937]

If Chad can be stabbed 50 times by two people and survive then I'm ready to accept stu returning

[@dustingdustin]

Honestly, I would love for Stu masterminding from Prison to be the plot of 7. Open with the typical set up, Sam and/or Tara at home. But this time they're 100% ready and kill A ghostface. Call one of the other characters to tell them what just happened and THAT character gets offed before the title card. You can have expendable GF's running around and the question isn't so much who THEY are, but WHY they're doing this.

[@ringmaster7866]

Stu literally is on the kill list for 1996 let’s be realistic here the scream franchise is a super natural movie mark my words STU IS. DEAD

[@jamesthomas5109]

0:10 Anyone know the soundtrack?

[@Ghost_4_5]

I think it would have been 💯 times better than the part 3 we got