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[@cardwitch91]

Reminds me once again of one of the more red-alert throwaway moments in ASOS, when Bran questions how Meera can love mountains while also hating them. *"Why can't it be both?" Meera reached up and pinched his nose. "Because they're different," he insisted. "Like night and day, or ice and fire." "If ice can burn," said Jojen in his solemn voice, "then love and hate can mate. Mountain or marsh, it makes no matter. The land is one." "One," his sister agreed, "but over wrinkled."* I feel the answer lies here. The need for balance is about accepting both at the same time.

[@michaelwatson8890]

In the books I don't think Euron would be satisfied with the Iron Throne I think he's got ambitions of becoming a Bloodstone Emperor type figure

[@ValarMorghulis...]

Michael Watson Definitely. He wants it all at all costs...aka his ego is gonna get him got when he least expects...

[@arawn1061]

Michael Watson there is a theory that the comet in Agot was yet a new bloodstone. According to the directions that characters describe the comet going in, it is theoriesed that, in Clash, the comet finally struck in the ruins of Valyria. This is important becuse of One thing. Who is it we know were in Valyria during Clash? Euron Greyjoy. So the theory goes that Eurons black, mad Eye is actually a part of The comet. From how Aeron describes it in the Forsaken, it seems possible.

[@Glockler]

"lying piece of shit Andals...", classic!

[@Altrantis]

I always find interesting how they are the least epic of all peoples in the story. Their religion shows no sign of veracity, unlike literally every single other religion, all their accomplishments are actually first men or Targaryens, and most importantly, they don't actually have anyone epic to their name, no amazingly awesome kings of old, or heroes of legend... nothing.

[@FraJa1980]

Artis Arryn is pretty epic tho'.... for an Andal that is.

[@donwallacedcruz]

To go West you must go East. Yes.... more of Essos please!

[@anuragk7184]

GoT: Jon is the son of Rhaegar and Lynna and is the legitimate heir to the Iron Throne!!! Order of the Green Hand: Hold my beer.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

Hahahahaha that's amazing

[@jamestaylor4511]

Anurag K thats the show..not the books

[@nexis1293]

Anurag K Jon is about as legitimate as i am Samuel L Jackson in person

[@FraJa1980]

Lemme see yo wallet! Does it say "bad mother*cker?

[@vikkidonn]

As a side note Jon being the heir in the show isn't really true. Rhegar was never crowned, and Jon was a secret and not thought of, the crown went to viserys then to Dany for all intensive purposes. They would have to prove it to the people. who as far as shown in the show shouldn't believe anything bran says. They don't even know him or what a three eyed Raven is. And it meant nothing anyway.

[@realeyesrealisereallies8607]

This is hands down the best ASOIF youtube channel.

[@ValarMorghulis...]

Dennis Rodriguez Agreed! I have a split decision between 3 Channels (which I won't name the other 2 because my #2 & so forth ranked channels..don't wanna diss anyone!)... Either way! Agreed! Amazing channel - I love it! - TRV🔥

[@daddyleon]

*+Dennis Rodriguez* "hands down"? Is that a pun? :)

[@realeyesrealisereallies8607]

daddyleon its just a figure of speech, meaning the best. I love this channel because its based on the books and not the show.

[@daddyleon]

Yes, I know it's a figure of speech, but the sigil they sport: the green hand, might've made it a pun as well ;) You know that one with the words: true to our word.

[@realeyesrealisereallies8607]

daddyleon i like the way you think. We're on the same page.

[@WaseemKhsaad]

Amethyst empress being the forebears of valyrians gives another meaning to Danys "Mother of Dragons"

[@mistersharpe4375]

An addendum to some of your points: I think that the Bloodstone Emperor's "tiger-woman bride" might relate somehow to the Children of the Forest, what with the Children's similarity to cats. The colour yellow (and gold by extension, just to throw some shade on the Lannisters), might also tie in with the Children for their large, yellow eyes.

[@ValarMorghulis...]

Mister Sharpe The Children of the Forest (& I believe there are cousin races to the East & West...) are a *HUGE* part of the *Why* etc part of what's going on in this world, created by GRRM, that we love. Very important creatures I believe. Sinister little fuckers...reminds me of a people in reality... (wink wink...).

[@mistersharpe4375]

Personally, I see SO many characters in the series who parallel the Children of the Forest. The Children do not have the physical strength to overpower the warlike First Men, so obviously they turned to cunning and magic, using the weirwoods to spy on Men and gather information. That is almost exactly the same backstory as Petyr Baelish. Not to mention there is Varys, who uses literal children to do his spying. Then we have Bran and Arya and Tyrion, and all such other physically weak characters who must rely on cunning and/or supernatural abilities. If you ask me, the Children spied on the First Men with ravens and weirwoods, and used their powers to influence peoples' dreams. And likely, still do. The Children aren't just hiding out in caves and singing sad songs, they are playing the game of thrones.

[@davidsong582]

cat

[@Arya-kb7so]

i really hope GRRM watches your channel, so you can help him with the fine details. amazing work, as always. love this channel.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

that would be unreal

[@dmckenzie9281]

The c is silent in scythe.

[@RobertKaucher]

Dale Mckenzie and it has no etymological relationship with the word sigh.

[@randomshit308]

I noticed that too

[@StealthMaestroSharpe]

“SKythe, sKythe? It’s scythe, say it right!” ~mayor quimby’s nephew

[@anaisabel713]

I'm from Venezuela and we haven't got the world of ice and fire at all yet. Considering the state my country is in it is not a priority. But I love you guys for giving me so much info about it to put together with the info I find Online. I love you guys! This was brillant and pretty intresting.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you so much...I've followed what is going on in Venezuela for years, going well back into the Chavez years...I'm sorry you have to deal with that...hopefully things change there soon

[@anaisabel713]

The Order of the Green Hand oh well the whole hell started with chavez socialistic ass so you seem pretty knowledgeable! Thanks, let's hope it gets better soon. In the meantime your videos do brighten up my day! Hugs for you guys!

[@brendanfechter4889]

Ana Isabel Pire Venezuela, Ay mi amor move here and marry me. ;) but in all seriousness I hate that you can't get TWOIAF as I love that book and will happily send you a copy bc everyone should own it

[@anaisabel713]

Brendan Fechter lol that's sweet thanks

[@asharadaynedragonblood1803]

And here we have another connection: Dragon - Amethyst - gemstone - violet - Danys eyes - Daynes. Ice and Fire = blue and red= violet. Thus we could speculate: the dragon blood is not Valyrian but Dawn Age blood. Amethyst Empress. Danys ancestors.

[@CharlesZane_]

So much influence from the Cthulhu Mythos in ASoIaF. The same book you reference about the king in yellow, also includes Hastur, The Unspeakable One, Him Who Is Not to be Named. Mel says something very similar about the Great Other as well.

[@btaybreadtastic]

There do seem to be a lot of potential "tiger" suitors trying to wed "dragon" Dany to fulfill prophecies and oaths.

[@DD-ok2pt]

OMG!!! The STENCH!!! The Sons of the Harpy are already in Kings Landing!!! They have been mentioning the smell coming from KL since season one. Queen of Thorns mentions it as she enters KL. Last season the soldiers that Arya come upon also mention the smell. Also, if this is a protracted battle between Dragons and Tigers then it perfectly explains CRASTER! Maester Aemon practically confesses to Jon that Craster is his son. Then later they show Aemon in the same frame with Gilly and the baby, his granddaughter and his grandson. Perhaps the Night King interest in Craster's sons is because they are Valyrian. Craster has babies with his daughters to keep the seed strong something Valyrians do. Is the plan that the tiger rides the dragon...forever. Craster says that he is on the "right side of the Gods" and he will survive come the long night. This is like what you are saying that certain people thrived thru the longnight because they were in league with the Sons.

[@branthebeardedbuilder6813]

Just in time to listen while I crawl under the hood of this truck!!! Perfect timing

[@zeri0n544]

GRR Martin doesn'r really believe in absolute good or evil, as seen from interviews. He believes in the contrast seen in people's actions.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

George doesn't think people are pure evil or pure good...causes and movements are different...let's take the Nazis and an example...the individual Nazis weren't pure good or pure evil, but their cause was, and they needed to be stopped

[@MissRiny]

The story of Grazdan the Great forming an empire while all other people where miserable and him having half human children reminds me of Craster, who lived happily while the other wildlings fled since he offered his sons to the Others. Their names are similar too.

[@allyriastark3508]

Craster was ally yes and unknowingly the Night's Watch managed to get rid of that man

[@reyniknamyrion3557]

The Bloodstone Emperor just makes me think of Euron Greyjoy - a half-mad sorcerer hellbent on becoming a godlike figure of darkness and death who plans to rule over all as the world crumbles around him.

[@CharlesZane_]

So does that mean the original Reek was blood of the Harpy? Makes sense and he was the primary influence for Ramsey becoming so twisted.

[@kaleomungin]

what?

[@magicman3400]

Stan The Man I think reek just has a problem with his digestive system that doesn’t allow him to process certain foods and this causes people to stink

[@yensid4294]

Thank you for the in depth on tiger & harpy symbolism/history. Enjoyed the taoist content too. Great video as always.♡

[@miy1925hassun]

Okay, the "lying piece of shit Andals" is tottaly going to be my new catchphrase along with the "Damn Elves". Also I always wondered why Aegon, a Valyrian dragonlord, would choose to prevent a supposed re-establishment of the Freehold. It really goes along nicely with the facts about Old Ghys and their corruption. They(at that time reduced to the cities of the Slaver's Bay) were also responsible for convincing Valyria to take up the slave trade IIRC. On a side note, Bloodstone Emperor looks so much like an Ancient Sith Lord- wait a minute!

[@magister343]

There was another Dragon Lord, Aurion, who had already tried to reestablish Valyria and make himself its first Emperor. He, his dragon, and his armies were never seen again.

[@AzaleaJane]

I recently got my mom into the books, and she looooves that Taoist stuff. She's gonna love this channel!

[@jason32742]

Takes me back to when we chatted about the harpy and the children so long ago 😊

[@gurtreynolds470]

No it can’t end I need more of your videos I’ve already watched all of them several times ahhhhhhhhh!

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

Sorry Gurt. I think we're going to do another live q&a this week if that helps

[@gurtreynolds470]

The Order of the Green Hand it certainly does it certainly does. I know it has to take to guys a lot of time doing all you fact finding and research, but never the less it pays off and every video is amazing 👍🏼🤘🏼👏🏼🙌🏼

[@Reverserandy]

I truly appreciate the time, effort, and thought that both of you put into these videos. Thank you for your talent.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you for watching

[@billhicks3835]

As always well done. Staying with the train of thought it's interesting to note the historical mythology of the wolf, which in this story has etherealy balanced/perfected the Dragon; while the Westerosy symbol of the Tiger ends up being the Lion. Hope that's where this is going.

[@thuginstincts]

bill hicks c4

[@gllyflower]

Great work, guys! I love your "seed" analysis. The bit of yin in the yang and vice versa really harmonizes with GRRM's notion of nothing pure this or pure that. No pure villains or heroes, just people with complex bits! Really interesting!

[@umpteenexpression530]

YEEEEESSSSSSSS, THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER VIDEO. THESE ARE MY LIFE BLOOD school starts tomorrow and ive been thinking about starting the books again. Nothing fuels my curiosity in the way the Song of Ice and Fire does... so far

[@lisaalvarez9742]

I wish this was your full time job. Your content is so amazingly well thought out. I hate having to wait for new videos - but I get it, real life. :)

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

I wish we could figure out how to produce more content...it's not just real life sometimes...sometimes it takes us that long to figure something out or feel like we haven't supported our idea with enough text and/or historical/mythological evidence and go back for more...we're going to try to do more live q&a's

[@michaelguilbert8857]

love the way you 2 support your theories , for a book reader this a great channel to watch !!

[@madambutterfly1997]

great finale. got that bad taste of season 7 out of my mouth

[@ValarMorghulis...]

Hasan Wilson Same! That's why we stick with the mountains of text information & expound!!✌

[@daddyleon]

What type of taste?? A Ghiscari taste?

[@XF5LX]

The work you guys put in these videos is tremendous. You deserve more subscribers.

[@moniislam4646]

amazing stuff again, been waiting a while!

[@dudelit6482]

Bravo for yet another awesome video. We need an hour long video one of these days. This one was just starting to really blow my gourd.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

maybe someday...we have found that people don't watch much more than 20 minutes or our videos and viewership drops like a rock right around there and we feel like doing all this work and having most people not even hear the best part, which we often save for the end, which makes us hesitant to do it

[@devi_dane3982]

Ilyrio also wears yellow and a tigers eye ring 🤔

[@silenthero618]

Devi *plays intense intro as my mind breaks with how many theories can be made with that fact alone *

[@devi_dane3982]

Silent Hero haha,and what about Gorgi/Gogossos - Gorgon (/ˈɡɔːrɡən/; plural: Gorgons, Ancient Greek: Γοργών/Γοργώ Gorgon/Gorgo) is a female creature. The name derives from the ancient Greek word gorgós, which means "dreadful", and appears to come from the same root as the Sanskrit word "garğ" which is defined as a guttural sound, similar to the growling of a beast.

[@guesswho1047]

So happy to be able to enjoy your work again! Catching up on what I missed as you two continue to outdo yourselves 💚✋

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you so much...glad to see you back in the comments

[@guesswho1047]

The Order of the Green Hand Thanks! Hurricane Irma had me out of commission for a little bit but thank God everything is pretty much back to normal 🙏 Happy to be able to enjoy & engage, one of many things that get taken for granted.

[@LucidHorizons]

Finally! You both are a breath of fresh air. Thank you! 🤗

[@crazyscotsman9327]

I'd love for you guys to discuss the Night King and his bride.

[@jimboy3625]

Very nice work as always guys, you're worth the wait!

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you Jim

[@wolfsbanealphas617]

when's the next video i can't wait

[@wb-lr9ig]

Im convinced you solved the mysteries in the books so well you both should win the internet prize for being the first to nail it.

[@tehn3085]

This was yet another awesome video! 😊 You guys should do a video about the Maesters... When you get a chance.

[@benusrael3841]

if Brandon the builder lived during the last night his grandfather was garth greenhand. does this mean that the first men have not been there for 12 thousand years and the dawn age is a myth?

[@drlaloblancor3789]

Thank you for this wonderful and well crafted explanation!

[@TheBigjim1992]

great vid as always

[@johndaly5268]

Another great video that taught me just as much of our world as it did of georges. Time to rewatch a few more. Have a wonderful day

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thanks...you too

[@Yosya8059]

Another great video! The revelation about tigers is huge for me, thanks! I like how this yin yang concept coincides with your videos about Dorne, and Rhoynar, and House Martell (I hope I spelled it correctly). You said that they are associated with water, which can be connected to ice. But as you said water is an element of the dark side of the yin yang. I really like how it all comes into place.

[@Canuovea]

Being brutal doesn't make one uncivilized. Necessarily. Bloodstone Emperor seems a bit Night Kingish to me. Obviously an earlier version of course, but still interesting. Rome vs Carthage, clearly is the inspiration for Valyria vs Ghis. Considering what happened to Valyria and Rome after they beat their rival, I don't see it being so Manichean. Both became slave mongering maniacs. Though you could make an argument that it is more like Rome vs Etrusca, but I'm not convinced. You could say the Rhoynar are more Carthage-like but I don't see it. The Rhoynar were not a major power compared to Valeria. I really hope that things don't turn out to be so clear cut. I want the Others to be a bit more interesting than just some random evil murder murder just cuz types.

[@VictoriaTraducciones]

Night King or Night's King? because the Night King is a character the tv show made up to give the the White Walkers a face, a leader for fans to hate or love, the Night's King is a book character and has nothing to do with the Night King from the show, the Others have no especific leader that we know of

[@KhukuriGod]

Yep, this channel is conveniently ignoring the fact that the Valyrians were a bunch of despicable asswipes. The Sorrows attest to that, the Braavosi attest to that, the Faceless Men attest to that, and the Ghiscari asswipes attest to that as well.

[@emiliocamachoerice6380]

Any dislikes are or will be the children of the forest

[@FilipCordas]

No we all know who is to blame for dislikes Catelyn Stark.

[@emiliocamachoerice6380]

Filip Cordas maybe she works with the children of the forest

[@edi9892]

Emilio Camacho Erice No, all dislikes come from maesters.

[@emiliocamachoerice6380]

edi we don't know if they work together

[@thedelacruz]

D&D are the children of the forest.They took a perfectly great story and..stuck an obsidian dagger on it.

[@mozart7820]

Mind blown, well worth the wait.

[@Cojer52]

Great topic and very well done. Thank you.

[@thefastmagician]

Thank you for more great videos. Love the livestreams but these are great.

[@molly-zx9cr]

Another excellent video that last sentence blew my mind!

[@catangel70]

You ever think old George is scrolling through youtube and sees this, clicks on it and says Holy Shit - they get it :D

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

That would be pretty much the greatest thing we could imagine happening as a result of doing this

[@bradwolf07]

The Old Ghis Empire and the Bloodstone Empire being the same makes so much sense. I'm definitely on board with this theory

[@morellanaghenz778]

The comment about dragons and amethysts gave me chills. Amazing find guys! But I do have a question. Do you guys think the doom happened because the valyrians had been corrupted by ghis by having slaves as well? I can't get past that valyria also had slaves but I don't think they always did.

[@jorenvanderark3567]

they indeed did not slavery was introduced to valeryria after the 5th ghiscari war before that they held no such practice.

[@philruther8705]

Like first, now let's watch the video! I love you both!!!

[@jamespinto1884]

Awesome vid, guys! I feel so yellow! :D

[@docshelley1969]

Wow, great research. Well done! Thank you guys ;-)

[@TheSmokeyWolf.]

Worth the wait !

[@asharadaynedragonblood1803]

Very very cool. You do such a great job. Keep up the work!!!

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

Thank you Lady Ashara

[@babybalrog]

You failed to mention the earth part of Yin. It makes me think of all the caves the Children hang out in. Also water and earth makes me think of trees and nature, a favorite of theirs. This would feed the theory that the children and the others are related, or allied. One important over site, is that in eastern theology, Yin and Yang, are not considered good and evil. But a system of balance. This brings to minds GRRM's use of the name Other, and how "others" is a typical psychological means of identifying enemies in the real world. Everyone fears "the other." But it's wrong to assign evil to them. They are different, misunderstood, but not evil. In keeping with GRRM's general anti-war message, I wonder if we won't discover this about the Others too. Granted Ghis seems like pure evil to me, bloodstone emperor and all that. Craster would fit right in.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

there are more videos to come...there is too much information to put it all into a video that is watchable...otherwise it would sound like we were reading long lists of facts in our viewer's general direction

[@bigearl33]

great video , this is by far the best ASOIAF channel on youtube

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you so much

[@randolph84brown]

Damn! This is great stuff!!

[@jokerofMI6]

@12:52 Not just in ancient Chinese, still retain similar meaning presently. (Same for Yang)

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D E E P L O R E

[@tisalew]

A new video? Today is a good day 😊

[@anastazjowka]

Absolutely speechless. This is an amazing video. I wouldn't put it up together. Puzzle Is revealing the game slowly, answers it's mind blowing. Now seeing this what is the connection with the harpy and the children? Is that coming in the next video? Love so much your podcasts.

[@bmirkhanzadeh]

One of your best works! Absolutely amazing 👏. Order of Green hand is the John Petruccci of ASOIAF universe!

[@SJPace1776]

3:54 = Hahaha! Man, this hits home as a lover of historiography.

[@Ebbagull]

Your best work yet! Keep it up! :D

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

Thank you so much

[@jonjones7739]

awesome ive missed you guys

[@KayFiedler]

Now that was very cool, you guys and gals are by far the best story tellers, holy cats......wow for sure....thanks so much..

[@btaybreadtastic]

Thank you both for taking the time (and having the intelligence) to help sift through this glorious puzzle of information so I can go on making tacos. You guys are the best 😆

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you

[@JoshuaBarnes2298]

I'm only at 5:10 so you might bring this up later but do you think this is an "oriental-fied" legend to mirror the night king, like the tiger woman is the same other as the night kings bride, just passed down with different stories? Or will there be a tiger person invasion at the climax of the myreenese knot and George just slipped one past us again?

[@Holypikemanz]

Beautiful pictures.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you!

[@Scrappyhippo]

Very wonderful video! Thanks for making these thought provoking ones. One thing that popped up in my head (off subject but it was just now) was how dragons and water do not mix...Dany is "Stormborn"? Wasn't she born during the fiercest rainstorm with water all around at Dragonstone? Maybe this is important? Love you guys!

[@lenox4166]

Both of you are geniuses. Thank you for the videos. Awesome ending too

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you

[@Thejericko17]

So politically/strategically it makes sense that Aegon would be against the Tiger's agenda to conquer and unite all of the colonies of Valyria under Volantis. He would likely see any consolidation of power as a genuine threat as a united "New Valyria" would almost certainly seek to reclaim all of it's former holdings, including but not limited to the outpost of Dragonstone. This would have resulted in Aegon having to literally fight a war on two fronts ( or eight depending on how you're counting lol) as he was still consolidating his own power in the Seven Kingdoms. A weakened Free Cities means a stronger Aegon as he benefited from the chaos, think Littlefinger. To your point, I'm sure the Tiger's had other agenda's as well but Occam's razor makes this one of the simplest and most reasonable explanation for his actions.

[@mrredeef]

I think the reference to Ice and Fire in the start of the story is a red herring away from the fact that what makes the different societies different makes them more different than they are similar, but that's not to say that there aren't social structures that clearly tend more towards evil, and those that tend more towards being good. I also think that pitting the Ice vs the Fire is the very trap that brings you down in the end. It's a song of Ice AND Fire. It doesn't explicitly say the ice is against the fire, we just assume that's what it means, as does almost every character in the series, sadly.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

by George's definition, Ice is death, betrayal and cold inhumanity and Fire is life, love and passion...those seem like opposites to me

[@mrredeef]

But just because two things are opposites doesn't mean they're against each other, especially in the case of human emotions which are a vast sea of grey areas. A person can betray someone with vehement passion in the unveiling of their treacherous nature, or be very inhumane in the way that they show their 'love'. Needless to say though, this logic has no footing in the physical reality of ice and fire, which are opposites. I also think it's interesting how Martin uses the faith of the seven as a classic example of religions demonizing serpent-cults.

[@alfredosincovich5744]

Excellent

[@Thullin00]

OHHH SHIT THAT LAST PART FEELS LIKE SPOT ON MAN HOLY SHIT

[@tris79]

I was hoping for part 3 of Arianne :) I'm interested in your take on the caves (although knowing your pace that might be part 7 :) hahah)

[@willy289]

This is probably my favourite series by far!! The Old Powers are awakening

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

its fascinating how George seems to have woven together just about every aspect of mythology from every corner of the world into this story and done it seemlessly

[@sheprime]

Reek was also said to be pungent and perfume couldn't mask it, does this mean he is a harpy?

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

I would say there is little doubt he was evil

[@kuronokei01]

Hi from Costa Rica, I love your videos guys you are awesome

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you so much

[@chasx7062]

Just noticed that fire and water are opposites, Rhoynish vs Valyrians, and Targaryans vs Dorne, and of course The Children of the Forest vs Valyrians

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

Love❤❤ these videos🎥 🔥🔥🐲🐲

[@clayedwards7191]

I just want you guys to know that i appreciate you guys. the other ASOIAF channels pale in comparison.

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

thank you so much

[@tomaszprzyby784]

That's a great tigerwoman, manticore and harpy connection. I'm quite impressed. I haven't seen all your videos but I would love to hear your theories 'bout Rhoynars, their watermagic and wars with Freehold.

[@KhukuriGod]

They're gonna say the Rhoynar were evil too. Their Valyrian fanboyism clearly shows in these videos.

[@allyriastark3508]

I am late :( but loved the video! Since this video is more about Yin - will there be a video about Yang? Or what will be your next project since there seems to be much in your hands, Doran Martell for sure, I saw comments about Ashara Dayne as Lady of Winterfell, Andals and Rhoynars deserve a few words too right? Or lies of the Maesters for sure, even the Southern Ambitions is fault of Maester Walys :(

[@bschuler6216]

I'm here to collect my credits for eastern philosophy seminar, ancient civ., comparative religions, and history 301. Thanks.

[@oclairdelune164]

I really enjoyed watching this video like the other ones of your serie "the old powers are waking". A very interesting and well-researched content. I may be wrong but it seems to me that Volantis had ties with Old Ghis (maybe I got influenced by the TV show where Volantis fought alongside Astapor and Yunkai against Dany's forces). Do you think remainants of the ancient Ghiscari Empire may have supported Volantis during the Century of Blood, as I -thanks to you- also find weird that Aegon the Conqueror came to help the other Free cities if he didn't think he has some kind of mission, which would be stopping the harpy from arising. I first wanted to bring slavery forward to mention the links between Old Ghis and Volantis, but I remembered that Valyrians practiced it too. However I don't know if Volantis slavery's practices are more akin to those of Valyria or those of Old Ghis. Volantene claimed to be descendants from Valyrian soldiers, but I'm starting, after having watched your video, to think that Volantis may have been an ancient Ghiscari settlement (of course, I am probably completely wrong on that point) or at least it had been influenced by Old Ghis at some point of its history. By the way, thanks again for the amazing content. You never disappoint.

[@anapaz329alvarez3]

And I love this song!!!! Also this videos!!! Super like

[@nj3195]

The Ghiscari remind me of the Persian Empire and the the Valyrians a mix of Greece and Roman empire. I think it was Alexander the Great who had issue with the Persian Empire and beat them in a series of battles. That reminds me of the Valyrians beating the Ghiscari. As far as the religion or myths the Persians at the time of Alexander the great, Persians were in to the religion Zoroastrianism which by the way happens to have Ahura Mazda as its Supreme Being or Azor Ahai to us Game of Thrones fans. Zoroastrianism seems to be the basis for many new religions in our world. New meaning the focus on one god and not multiple gods. Kind of like how Melisandre calls the lord of light "the one true god". Of course the Faith of the Seven are the Greek gods and the old gods are nature spirits. What crossed my mind is that the Many faced god seems to fit the role of Islam as in The Ishmaelian sect of Islam. Very clever GRR Martin!

[@Thullin00]

Natalit Johnson Carthage would fit better i think

[@nj3195]

No doubt there is influence from Carthage and Egypt for the slavery part of Ghiscar in Game of Thrones since it is an amalgamation of acient societies but there are too many similarities between the harpy statue and a statue of what was assumed to be Ahura Mazda or Azor Ahai for us GOT peeps. GGR Martin has just made a switch and given Ghiscar the symbol instead of the lord of light the symbol. If you look up zoroastrian symbol you will see the harpy wings and the head is the sphinx of egpyt.

[@allyriastark3508]

In Islam there is only one God - the Lord or Al-Ilah > Allah - so I don't think any sect of "Islam" suits Many face Gods. Plus know that Quran tells the battle between Rome and Persia and say when Persia won müşrik (those who claim to believe in God but actually worship others) were happy and but believers shouldn't lost hope because Rome will win the next war.

[@bubbahuskey]

I've been known to dig on a dark art or two. It never hurt anybody. Thanks for the video. #SoooMuchClarity

[@Angenga]

When's the next livestream yo? I need me some fresh long-form order of the greenhand material i've watched your last q+a episode like 4 times already

[@TheOrderoftheGreenhand]

I think we're going to do one this week

[@Angenga]

The Order of the Green Hand awesome!

[@thebovineavenger]

Nail. Hammer. Head. Green Hand. BAMMMMM!!!!!!!!

[@gloriabrown6403]

The last part you said fits perfectly. Varys, that is. Ned's first, short and simple description of Varys when he first meets him. Eddard Chapter 21, Book 1 A Game of Thrones. Maybe?

[@aaronbaron3155]

Want to like this video multiple times!!!!