Penuel The Black Pen | In Conversation Adv. Ike Khumalo , Operation Dudula, Apartheid, ANC, CODESA

[@Sphaman1000]

"Our leaders cannot think beyond a mercedez benz" 🤞 Facts

[@senzovumani4771]

Sadly

[@babakawaz8225]

Power ...

[@siphomabena9139]

😂😂😂

[@Ceezy_King]

That line hit hard!

[@i.am.navkaur]

Greed.

[@nonkolo_faith]

One thing about Penuel... he brings TOP TIER guests! Always!

[@ThaZoVic]

Uqinisile. Always!!!

[@vusmuzimasilela2358]

Pen man let me tell you something you thought you knew but you really don't know, Your podcast is bigger then 90% of what I see on KZbin, please pride yourself man we learning a lot bra. Thank you syabonga Ntsizwa Yama Butho. God bless you.

[@skizmscheme990]

Beware of pride.

[@sibongisenisakhele3114]

What a rich interview! Thanks Penuel. Advocate Khumalo, please consider hosting Master Classes. We need in-depth discussions of the topics covered.

[@risenga1000]

These are topics we shouldn’t be afraid to talk about in South Africa. The Advocate is truly conscious. I enjoyed the discussion…

[@nyikobaloyi5527]

I just knew this would be an amazing conversation! As a country and a continent, we need more people who think like Ike Khumalo.

[@jacobmatjiu7285]

Adv.Ike Khumalo u r God send,I cant b'lieve I had a chance 2 hear u.U r amazing,intuitive compassionate,educated,everything...I wish u should long 2 benefit this country.

[@MzansiHotNews]

South Africa need to have more conversations like this.

[@sphelelesikosana7520]

Every South African need to check this conversation 🔥💯

[@williamthage923]

I used to listen to advocate Khumalo from powerfm mostly when Professor JJ Tabane was still there very brilliant mind and never scared of speaking the truth.

[@davidmakaveli4614]

lol I see hatred over Africans and loves Europeans

[@godbillion_nathan]

As a Congolese born and raised in Eswatini but living and working in South Africa, I totally support Ike on what foreigners are doing in South Africa, we need him too in DRC because our country has been taken over by Nigerians, Indians and Rwandans. I like that scarce skills part, I'm an Industrial Robotics and Artificial intelligence engineer which is a scarce skill and you should only be allowed to come to a country if you coming to start a business or are a scarce skill, PERIOD!!

[@briandejesustofa3708]

Business needs labourer, I bet you forgot that. Any country in the world, any super power country needs investors and labourers be it highly educated or uneducated, they go hand in hand. Do you know how many people Canada brings in just to pick fruits?

[@godbillion_nathan]

@@briandejesustofa3708 that's because maybe there's not enough local citizens willing to do that job, but in South Africa and the DRC there's more than enough people for those jobs but illegal immigrants are hired instead because they can be overworked and underpaid.

[@edbee7674]

Europeans are united and Africans are divided through the rule implemented by white men."Divided & rule ".Borders have made Africans hate their fellow Africans & see nothing like them (Self hate)

[@iyiolaabosede9500]

Wtf Nigerians aren’t in Congo 😅

[@godbillion_nathan]

@@iyiolaabosede9500 yes there's a lot of your people there causing unnecessary havoc, even in Eswatini it's a stereotype that most of y'all are in illegal dealings like drugs and armed robberies.

[@SollyMeshaba]

Advocate Ike is one of a few who is patriotic and speaking his mind.

[@mstr4164]

Ike is not bad as the way the media portrays him. He is very knowledgeable on the law and raised very valid points on current affairs. Thoroughly enjoyed the interview.

[@valentineisraelshabangu4069]

He seems like a laid back dude I swallow my words never understood him.

[@thandonkalitshana2024]

You've got to realise something once you question the status core of capitalism they will fight you to death

[@kerwin.johnson756]

If the youth could pay attention to this wise man they will see a way forward, this brothers vision is for us as a country to open our eyes

[@SollyMeshaba]

Advocate Khumalo is one of few people who are willing and ready to stand for what he knows and believe in.

[@lungelokeswa6102]

I'm so glad Ike came here to educate all of us including the host of the podcast

[@vusumuzimchunu292]

All I like about IKE is to put South Africans first power to that ndoda yamadoda

[@julienicks8691]

I love this guest, one of the best guest on the show. He made the most sense to everything he said. So much respect for him. Thank you

[@KingOfAfrica90]

Ike Khumalo spoke so well regarding the issue of illegal immigration, sanctions of Zimbabwe and Haitia, the false idea that Africa never had borders, racism and inequality in SA, Second Codesa as the possible solution going forward in SA and the sanction people can expect if they can take the land, the constitution and laws of the country

[@manqobamazibuko167]

You are a star my broer, m de 1 who asked 4 his interview!!

[@divinetinashe6640]

The sound quality and visual on this podcast is dope clean and superb

[@melissascheepers5912]

So much knowledge and wisdom shared in this interview ✨

[@martinmogakala3286]

THANK YOU IKE FOR SPEAKING OUT ABOUT IMMIGRATION, SA MUST BE PROTECTED.

[@dorothiazulu8414]

Adv Ike Khumalo we appreciate your thoughts we learn alot from you. Please we need your presence S.A is drowning

[@mmalegodijafta8332]

I like Ike Khumalo and I've learn so many things from him🤜🤛

[@siphamandlakhumalo5074]

The Bravery with this two true leaders who speaks truth "powerfull"

[@sonwabisotakayo5916]

I knew Adv. Ike Khumalo through Power FM he used to be a regular caller. Unfortunately they banned him. I really love his opinions. I really admire him

[@kennedymogomotsi6973]

Remember power FM is funded by rupert.there are no longer speaking truth to power.since JJ left they are pushing a certain agenda

[@DailyMotivation365.]

Penuel met his match. Listen to how Ike is explaining the grant system with facts and statistics.

[@KingOfAfrica90]

True he turned the grant topic around. I was also not expecting his answer

[@tokamasita5038]

This kind of engagement is exemplary, we should learn from that particular moment more than focus on who is better, they both great and built each other more than anything else, we all need each other, Penuel's brilliant show brought us this amazing interview.

[@pageiit7626]

I total agree this guy filling the gaps and correcting the misunderstanding that Pen has ob certain concept and human behaviour.

[@palesatsosane7743]

Yinkunzi Khumalo

[@xokihlongwane543]

we need part 2 With Advocate Ike Khumalo

[@vusisibisi-su3iw]

Ola bra Ike. Your introduction of yourself is powerful, especially your defination of EDUCATION. I believe you, it ought to be regarded as a tool to unlock our minds to avoid the stupid myth of ' master/ servant inter - relations. Unlocking our mind and enabling us to create our own jobs ( self empowerment ), rather that relying on the next person for survival. As a nation, a lot can thus be achieved when a majority of us think likewise. Positive minds think alike. Power to you big brother.😮😊

[@arthur_bIggie]

Just wanna send a big shout out to you Penuel🔥, please keep the episodes coming. We're learning 👑🔥

[@lefar4498]

Ike, thank you for the legal education you provided throughout the duration of the interview, and the expression of humanity that came through, people like yourself should be helping to articulate and carve the political and economic path of society, be at the forefront our economic and societal development.

[@thulanigwala1404]

Thanks, Penuel for bringing this side of Brah Ike, as a person. He must come back there is a well of information and knowledge there. Big up!!!

[@fezilemda8127]

Ike is maturing well, he used to be wild but now I see a calm Ike who puts out his views without showing any anger. Age is catching up with Ike😅 but I am glad to have learnt so much from him. This is one of the guys that needs to be protected

[@musiqcircles3707]

"we're engineered to oppose the system as opposed to building it " i felt those words

[@ndodazondo6187]

I am proud of this interview, it was done right.

[@thandonkalitshana2024]

I'm glad penuel you invited someone with a different view from yours and you are a great listener it shows your maturity. Big ups👌👌

[@africansunkissedwithtsholo6374]

Love Ike he's not afraid to lose for what he believes.

[@Mafuzafulele]

Bra Ike i love your sincerity and honesty.

[@morakaevans6905]

This interview is one of the best. I need to listen to this conversation again this Adv ike is clear about everything about what is saying. Thank you GodPenuel for bringing Adv Ike Khumalo 🙏🏾

[@andresmith7608]

Great interview , your choice of guest Mr. Khumalo was awesome choice.

[@eliasthibs3890]

Enlightening and progressive views. Thank you Penuel and bro Ike. Why are such people not utilized by this government?

[@samphakane3361]

This is the most important South African interview I have ever since I started being a big follower of podcasts....I'm still shocked about Ike Khumalo's recollection of Codesa.....A Codesa 2.0 is urgently needed the future of our country depends on it 😲😲

[@chrisjpndala7576]

Thanks for today's episode Bra Ike is my favourite..I got to know him on Power FM

[@dorothiazulu8414]

Well said my brother after listening to you i was humbled!

[@bhacanation7052]

I can't wait to check this out. I used to listen to bra Ike when he used to wrestle with Thabiso Kotane on Power Fm

[@mkhulekodlamini4313]

we so love this! when people have different views and they get to back why they adopt such conventions

[@jeisonkunene6376]

Penuel you have grown as an interviwer. Well done!!!

[@thembazwane3090]

Ike is very intelligent. And I would like to take this moment and give him his flowers. Adv. Khumalo I yes u my brother .

[@sechabadarlington8626]

What a time to be alive been waiting to see you guys in one room

[@victorhdaglon]

Very educational conversation and makes you see where we come from and how to moves on, thank Mr Khumala, wishing you well in life.

[@nomkhosixulugama1089]

I share exactly the same sentiments on xenophobia. I really enjoyed the way Ike speaks in very lay terms, while uttering deep stuff (legal, international, political, historical economic relations). He is a true leader, relying on accessible language, relevant and relatable context for the audience. Siyabonga.

[@nhlaposbu]

Wena wenzani in your corner about this

[@kemmoneR]

this has to go viral. Awesome interview

[@MatimbaHlangwana]

MacG and Sol were not lying man this man's visuals are top tier yoh

[@ThabsGO]

Instead of praising him,they ridicule him

[@MatimbaHlangwana]

@@ThabsGOlol you know Mac and Sol with them banter is the order of the day sometimes they go beyond

[@SizweDlokweni]

But we're did he get the funds to have such quality?? Think!...

[@daniel_maholela]

Didn't really cav grootman, but I don't regret watching and listening. He is worth it. Kea leboha haholo Marena

[@lgizzy6335]

What a great mind, Ike enkosi kakhulu, and Pen, thank you so much for bringing this man. Echoed some really good points especially on how we as South Africans don't challenge the government. And also how when a leader is killed life just goes on... Really enjoyed this chat

[@codingmafia1642]

This guy speaking facts , n no politician can sit with him 1 on 1

[@menzimngadi6793]

I can imagine him taking Gwede apart 😂

[@edmundsishange3608]

Gwede won't "stomach" him

[@fortunemashiane721]

Not even a single Politician can debate this guy

[@davidmakaveli4614]

He's weak

[@TebogoShabangu-lv4wu]

​@@davidmakaveli4614 and you're weaker

[@shisuiuchiha480]

What a beautiful beard💯

[@annelitawhitlow7257]

I absolutely like these refreshing and objective ideas of this advocate.

[@isaacjacobsCEO1]

I thoroughly enjoyed the sit down.

[@abigailmolusi6483]

Absolutely enjoyed this... What a man.. 🔥🔥🔥Thanks Pen for bringing him✨

[@ayandasigxashe7198]

I had to pace back & forth listening to this great, articulate guest. Knowledge on steroids! Penuel you never disappoint 💪🏾🤙🏾.

[@AlwaysExtraCrispy]

I love this guy!!! Ike is a LEGEND and represents the kind of South Africa we NEED!

[@Fx.Gold.Squad1]

We are prisoners of hope❤

[@nationhlohlomi9333]

even when he was on tweeter He responds to everybody whether a celeb or not, very humble grootman, he relates to youngsters and people his age. I don't know him personally but he once returned my DM and told me if I do not get help from his advice I must DM him. Bra Ike is a real foot soldier. I SALUTE THIS BRA IKE KHUMALO.....

[@paballoratshoeu708]

Ike sounds like a reasonable man. Very astute with our history as a continent.👌👌

[@quintonskhosana6581]

Shoh! Bra Ike is really a legend...you always learn something from him...and thanks Penuel for letting the interview flow...great discussion indeed

[@KaraboThai]

Guy's. I love your language. Enough is enough

[@simphiweqwabe4985]

I wonder what is a senior advocate. Anyhow, Adv khumalo is an articulate and well read individual. Real Black Excellence.

[@mthokozisilanga4497]

We had borders since the begining of time. That is why we had people running away from inkosi uShaka to the land of kgosi Moshoeshoe and inkosi uHintsa. We all knew where the land of each tribe began and ended. Malema is drunk, yes we did not have fence, however, no one would enter any land of any African kingdom without declaring and asking for permission to either pass through or stay.

[@donaldmolaba3464]

But that was not borderline

[@mthokozisilanga4497]

@@donaldmolaba3464 That was borderline. You might well say, like colonizers that Africans did not marry, just because they did not wear a suit and a white wedding dress in front of the pulpit. That is a colonization mindset. Yes we married and yes we had borders. How would people like AmaMfengu became refugees in the land of AmaXhosa if there were no borders? Inkosi uCetshwayo had his land and his people and accepted iNdlovukazi uNandi and his son inkosi uShaka, whilst other subgroups were chasing them away. How can those kings and chiefs chase indlovukazi and inkosi away if there was no borderline? This is just a crazy argument based on a cognitive dissonance.

[@treyngwenya258]

lol which borders?@@mthokozisilanga4497

[@mosadingsedibane1373]

Top Class comment.

[@sibonelohashtag]

Such a great knowledge from Ike Khumalo wow brilliant 👏🏾👏🏾

[@luvuyongubane3557]

Great conversation gents. I literally watch the show with a Google tab open to research. Keep up the excellence.

[@siyandachonco]

Never knew about this man before. Like him very much. Well done on pushing him on the Roman Dutch law question. I thought that was interesting, but I think it warrants its own full hour as I am also a big critic of the foreign law blueprint we mirror.

[@moeketsitsie1017]

One day I would like to meet Ike. At one time he was angry, but know he looks happy. I miss your youtubes.😎😎

[@mo.b101]

😭😭😭❤️ the courts really kept this man quiet via socials...Thanks Pen

[@reggiemabena3630]

All thanks to the Black Pen for inviting this relatable intellect.

[@sakhilengwenya594]

Penual is bringing great guests. I will love this.

[@khaleeqkaashif9348]

My Black Brothers are weak against other men when it comes to global affairs/leadership.....💯💯

[@marcellem]

I'm listening for the 2nd time and I hope he comes back. Enjoy his wisdom and how it came across all throughout the interview...❤

[@kemetforex]

"this world is very cold, you have got to claim your space'" those words picked me up

[@siyabongangcobo2009]

Solid, solid interview...love these conversations man, thank you.🙏🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏

[@hlulanithetsongaprince]

We need people like Adv. Ike Khumalo to lead our people. We need leaders who stand for our people. What a great conversation.

[@mbuyiselo1]

Smart man this one.. wise man.

[@Ronieyit]

l'm watching as many as l ca. very knowledgeable guests with an equally brilliant host. kuddos

[@modikoekotu-rammopo2989]

Loved this interview so much . Would appreciate more from Adv. Ike Khumalo 🙏

[@khwezindlovu2101]

The Penuel Show with Adv. Ike Khumalo Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 00:10 - Welcoming in Adv. Khumalo 03:30 - Effects of being arrested during 21' July looting 09:15 - Reasons behind arrest 12:05 - Why do you question things 14:20 - Thoughts on influential men 16:50 - Thoughts on black men 19:50 - Leadership 26:30 - African leaders 28:20 - Operation Dudula 35:35 - Focus on Africans 38:30 - Who has committed the most atrocities 40:00 - Solutions to South African problems 44:00 - CODESA 49:05 - ANC / Politics - Revolutions 58:00 - Inspiration 1:05:35 - Comfort & relationship to social grants 1:11:00 - How social grants can be used for beneficial reasons 1:13:30 - Social chaos 1:18:20 - Thoughts on current legal system 1:30:24 - ENDS

[@Penuelism]

Thank you Khwezi 🙏🏽

[@CryptoPowerTalk]

Legend 🙏

[@LalasPhiwe]

Thanks Penuel.Bra Ike , siyabonga bafo.You one of the folks amongst inspirational leaders people to do university LECTURES to influence our youth. Standing ovation ,

[@jaysomeone]

Loooove Ike Khumalo, these two guys are two of my favorite people.

[@adzino25]

doing the lords work🙏🏾

[@moneybodyfx3150]

I love IKE so much i discovered him on Tick tock

[@malusingongoma2830]

Thank you Penuel for inviting this guy over.

[@khayadongo8252]

All along I have been thinking that this fellow was just utsotsi/sidlamlilo from Jozi, however this interview has changed my perception about Ike Mntungwa 180 degrees, big ups to your work Penelimnyama💪🏾

[@bms_888]

Thank you for this content it's much better than watching a movie ❤

[@sthembisomashwama1750]

Adv Ike Khumalo used to call on Talk radio 702 back in 2012/13 I was in varsity doing my 2nd year, I know him from there and he disappeared. I used to ask myself what happened to him even this year. I'm happy to finally see him

[@luvuyodada830]

He resurfaced around 2018, 2019 and 2020...this time around calling Power FM. He's very clear this brother. Big ups 👊🏽

[@harveyfuqua6633]

Who needs politicians when we have Ike Khumalo.

[@chrispillay477]

What a refreshing approach from both Penuel and Ike! I found myself wondering what an African philosophy of leadership would look like; that would be a starting point for me.

[@adroitmczephyr]

IKE KHUMALO MADE ME SUBSCRIBE ... AS MUCH AS HE IS A PATRIOT IN HIS COUNTRY ... ZIMs MUST BE PATRIOTIC IN THEIRS ASWELL

[@patricknkosi5412]

I love the wisdom in this podcast! Its always nice to hear that south africans are very wise ... i would have never sat and listen to any current affairs on radio or tv this long... keep going Penuel, we'll lahlela some coins masinawo bhuti, ungaphela' amandla

[@supriseholyfield]

Much love bro salute ❤❤❤

[@joumaseworld]

Crisp production , beautiful visuals tops audio!!...Thought provoking content !!!

[@patronellathomo9361]

This was one of the best conversations. Penuel good work my brother. I like adv Khumalo aways informative.

[@bman_Sethu]

Love bro Ike unapologetic telling the truth

[@thembamkwanazi3896]

Adv. Ike Groot man love the fact that what you don't just choose a side, but you have different criterions that make sense to your opinions and they just turn out to be facts nje eskhaleni.