Therapy Made My CPTSD Symptoms Worse. Here's What Did Help

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Crappy Childhood Fairy

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@SandraHallman
@SandraHallman 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a therapist and I think the work you do is infinitely more effective than 95% of therapists out there. Most therapists become therapists because they had a messed up childhood and they are trying to vicariously fix their wounds through “helping” other people. Most therapists haven’t done their own work to heal and they end up causing more harm to their clients than good...just like you experienced. Many therapists talk a good game about trauma but VERY few actually understand it and what it does to the brain and how to help people with it. THANK YOU FOR YOUR BRAVERY, Anna!
@Catbooks
@Catbooks 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking up! That's been my experience: that few therapists understand trauma or how to help people who are traumatised. The last therapist I saw did exactly what you said, caused me more harm than good. Last time we spoke I was dysregulated for several weeks as a result of my own trauma being triggered by her unprofessional behaviour. Never spoke to her again. Wish I'd been able to say exactly what she'd said/done to her and the clinic she works for, but it was too dysregulating for me to explain it. Even now, over a year later, I can't do it.
@srishtiasthana8877
@srishtiasthana8877 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely second this !!
@beckythornton6470
@beckythornton6470 2 жыл бұрын
DITTO!
@anewchapter1336
@anewchapter1336 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. My 34 year old sister in law got out of rehab a couple years ago after getting divorced and is on anti-depressants is now a "therapist" charging $200/hour, but recently admits she could hardly cope with having a huge tree removed from her yard due to storm damage. She is now interfering in my marriage by influencing my husband with very bad advice. I have always hoped for the best for her but I believe people that have not truly healed often develop a false self/front as a "therapist" as a cover for their unhealed trauma. I actually think this is dangerous. I do not believe she should be advising anyone.
@jennw6809
@jennw6809 2 жыл бұрын
My goodness, you speak the truth that the profession doesn't want to acknowledge. It's the elephant in the room. I've been as damaged as helped by a whole string of trauma therapists.
@BlueZebra1955
@BlueZebra1955 2 жыл бұрын
I had a therapist who was a racist. I had a therapist who played head games. I had a therapist who told me my memories were "false." I had a therapist who blamed everything on my disability. One told me I did not have C-PTSD, and I had one who told me I CHOSE to feel insulted when someone insulted me. I'm done with talk therapy.
@recoveringsoul755
@recoveringsoul755 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. I tried Al anon, decided it wasn't for me. Saw one therapist who was very gentle, handed me a bunch of DV flyers while I insisted that wasn't it. I must have said something wrong, or he just had too much to drink. She suggested a domestic violence support group. I tried that but was still in denial. I didn't speak for the first six weeks. I just listened to find out how the group worked, what the rules are. It was free. After hearing bits if my story from other women, I realized I wasn't the only person this happened to. But regular talk therapy I felt like once I had vented and been validated, i was ready to DO something, not just talk about it. I asked how to deal with the trauma, they claimed we just talk about it. Frustrating. I had to do my own research to even learn that there were other types of therapy out there.
@Crystalquartz964
@Crystalquartz964 2 жыл бұрын
@Virginia Small Me too! Wasted thousands of pounds
@diana.the.writer766
@diana.the.writer766 2 жыл бұрын
There are better people who can help you better. Wow, what a bad experience for you!!
@Moonflowers11
@Moonflowers11 2 жыл бұрын
I had a therapist that flirted with my now ex husband, another that only wanted to talk about the holocaust, another one that took personal phone calls during therapy. I just started therapy again and started out by saying, "I need empathy" and I am getting it.
@diana.the.writer766
@diana.the.writer766 2 жыл бұрын
@@Moonflowers11 Unbelievable. Wow.
@barbnauman705
@barbnauman705 2 жыл бұрын
I talked with a therapist for many years, and i never felt I gained any insights or made progress. Ive learned more and healed more in the last two years, watching you, Anna, Patrick Teahan, Dr. Ramini, and Dr. Les Carter- all on KZbin. I’m incredibly grateful, especially to you, Anna! Thank you for this amazing channel and sharing your gifts and knowledge!!❤❤❤
@g.jelli...
@g.jelli... 2 жыл бұрын
I agree re therapy!! All of the channels you referenced I like as well. You may be interested to check out Lisa Romano. She's VERY good, too! She and Anna are my faves!
@Rain9Quinn
@Rain9Quinn 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! And dr ramani (like les carter)💜🙏🏻
@meagiesmuse2334
@meagiesmuse2334 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, and I would add Dr. Susan Winter also. Her videos are the ones that helped me the most. Also, I trained as a therapist at a top University, but none of what I needed to learn was learned in school. All of the truly worthwhile things were learned from my own experience at work and in my personal life, as well as continued study that I did on my own.
@Moonflowers11
@Moonflowers11 2 жыл бұрын
@Happy Dog Wow
@drmtokes
@drmtokes 2 жыл бұрын
"You should only work with licensed therapists" is exactly what kept me stuck and continues to keep MANY people suffering with cptsd stuck due to lack of money, health insurance, access to appropriate therapists, and appropriate knowledge.... spoken by a survivor of 20 years of traditional talk therapy that BARELY moved the needle, myself.
@stacielivinthedream8510
@stacielivinthedream8510 2 жыл бұрын
@Texasgirlinacrazyworld Same here! Smh
@FriendofDorothy
@FriendofDorothy 2 жыл бұрын
@Texasgirlinacrazyworld yes, while furtively glancing at their watches throughout the 50 minutes....
@stacielivinthedream8510
@stacielivinthedream8510 2 жыл бұрын
@@FriendofDorothy oh my God, Yes yes yes! That killed me!!!
@stacyjaye6350
@stacyjaye6350 2 жыл бұрын
@Texasgirlinacrazyworld at $90, minimum, for 50 minutes,
@julietcrowson3503
@julietcrowson3503 2 жыл бұрын
@Texasgirlinacrazyworld try psychodynamic therapy and cognitive behaviour therapy Attachment theory Pray Give your stress, unhappiness and pain to God Write diaries Reflect on what you learned in your horrible experiences God's love is bigger than all your suffering ✝️🫂🙂🙏☯️☮️X
@remissao13
@remissao13 2 жыл бұрын
The science of C-PTSD and emotional regulation should be taught in any psychology licensing process.
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! -Cara@TeamFairy
@anaheredia3467
@anaheredia3467 2 жыл бұрын
Similarly, doctors hardly study nutrition. It's a system for big corporations and insurance companies. Thank God for our current technology where we can find ppl like Anna who truly want to help. 💟
@annaburns2865
@annaburns2865 2 жыл бұрын
So true. Unfortunately therapy is a money making business. They don’t seem to really care about people and their problems.
@averayugen8462
@averayugen8462 2 жыл бұрын
family systems too including practice with real patients, and nobody knows how to help schizophrenics. That has to change too
@lavendarfiona9443
@lavendarfiona9443 2 жыл бұрын
I can relate to both side of this coin. I had therapist that would make me talk about the past and I had the same reaction complete disregulation. And it felt like talking about it was more about the therapist than me. Then resently I spoke to numerous therapists until I found one that promised that they would see me and not make me talk about the past. And then it was a game changer. I found an amazing therapist who would talk about my day to day life with me and how I was creating my reality.
@lateigracahill
@lateigracahill 2 жыл бұрын
yes I agree. I understand the point of exposure-style therapy and talking about our trauma. But when I finally found a therapist who focuses more on the present, the now, (ie we almost never talk about the past) it made a huge difference. If anyone here is interested, look for a therapist who is open to positive psychology + acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT). Check out Steven Hayes's Ted talk (he created ACT) psychological flexability: turning pain into purpose.
@lloyannehurd
@lloyannehurd 2 жыл бұрын
All the advice I ever got was to “write a letter to my abuser but don’t send it.” It did nothing for me. I certainly didn’t want to discuss anything with my abuser even if they were not there. It derailed me. It made me feel intensely vulnerable because my abuser would have enjoyed knowing how they hurt me. What did help, when discussing my intense abuse with anyone, was to pretend there was more than one of us being abused. I’d say “we” or “my brother and I”. It just made it easier to discuss. The listener would take what I said, no matter how outrageous it sounded, as truth. If there was another person with me then there was a witness so it must have happened. Even therapists don’t always know how perverse and strange an abuser can be. The truth can seem unbelievable!
@stacyyoust
@stacyyoust 2 жыл бұрын
@@lloyannehurd same reason I like picking "they/them" in preferred pronoun questions ❤
@lloyannehurd
@lloyannehurd 2 жыл бұрын
@stacy youst I have used “they/them” for most of my life but in the beginning I didn’t know why. It was just that I felt an inner relief of tension when I did it. Thanks for the back up reply.
@saralowe5306
@saralowe5306 2 жыл бұрын
My doctor put me in touch with a woman who wouldn't talk about my past. I found it extremely frustrating because as I see it all my problems stems from past experiences and she wanted to talk about here and now. I totally close off from the world so nothing happens day to day, we had nothing to talk about and she kept saying it doesn't matter what happened in your past trauma is trauma and we need to learn how to deal with now. I felt it was a real struggle to have conversation about nothing so eventually I said she just had to sit and listen to my life story so we can try and get somewhere. Then she said she needed time to process her emotions as I was telling her. Her emotions! She's supposed to be my therapist, I shouldn't be needing to deal with her triggers. I just wanted her to pick through my issues and help me deal with things. I just wanted her to listen to me but instead she wanted to brush the past under the rug. I was so pissed off. She said well if you are getting nothing from therapy it's ok to stop. But I wanted to finish the course, but ended up quitting a week early because she just kept nagging me to quit. I feel talking to her annoyed me so much and didn't help at all.
@stacielivinthedream8510
@stacielivinthedream8510 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! It was the same for me! It's redundant to tell your past story over and over to keep it and the pain alive!
@myfuturepuglife
@myfuturepuglife 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Why do I want to be a broken record and relive it over and over to someone who doesn't really know and care about me? It just didn't work for me.
@stacielivinthedream8510
@stacielivinthedream8510 2 жыл бұрын
@@myfuturepuglife Yes and so many of my therapists would forget and ask me the same questions many times that it became untenable to continue! If I didn't matter enough to remember anything about me, why was I going to that therapist- is what I thought! This is not helping I would think!
@clairehillier9818
@clairehillier9818 2 жыл бұрын
@@myfuturepuglife your statement is a feeling many of us share 💜💜💜💜💜
@Al........
@Al........ 2 жыл бұрын
I agree...they are interested in the 'story' but not in helping you get to the right ending to it.
@Rain9Quinn
@Rain9Quinn 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and those stories have neural pathways that we need to weaken so we can create newer ones that allow us to address the present & future in a more helpful, positive, constructive way.
@bencam
@bencam Жыл бұрын
I'm a licensed therapist. I send your videos to my patients regularly, including the videos in which you mention quiting therapy. You might not be licensed, but are clearly doing therapeutic work. Kudos! Insisting that a person only work through their trauma with a licensed therapist is like telling people they should only EVER exercise with a personal trainer. I have a feeling that the therapists that make those claims are worried about one thing: losing money. So there. Keep on making these great videos. They're also really helpful to us therapists who watch them! Ironic.
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy Жыл бұрын
Your comments are so appreciated :) -Cara@TeamFairy
@primrosedahlia9466
@primrosedahlia9466 2 жыл бұрын
God it makes me so mad when these therapist claim that people like YOU are harming people. It's exactly people like YOU and other youtubers who actually help people, NOT the licenced psychologists. I've known people who went to therapy for 30-40 years without feeling any better.. Then they found a coach or a counselor that had knowledge about dysregulation and dysfunctional family systems on KZbin and started working on themselves with those KZbin videos as the backbone - and had amazing transformation. I'm one of those people.
@davidcrawford9026
@davidcrawford9026 2 жыл бұрын
they don't like truth to challenge their "authority" and cash flow
@jwhalen111
@jwhalen111 2 жыл бұрын
Me too! I found a narcissist abuse/c-ptsd coach here in KZbin online group therapy since January and it's been nothing short of amazing!! I'm healing finally ❤️
@XZ858XZ
@XZ858XZ 2 жыл бұрын
Well, speak for yourself. My therapist has been a tremendous force in furthering my own healing and personal development I realize the first part of my comment may come across as a little flip but my point is, don’t casually disparage ALL therapists because of your own experience. This isn’t even what Anna is saying. She is explaining that she gave therapy a very honest shot, and found it still wasn’t for her and is telling her viewers that there is absolutely nothing wrong with them if it doesn’t work for them either, and that there are other options. That’s it, not that all therapy = bad. I feel the need to explain this because clearly most people don’t have critical thinking skills and automatically make the thought jump from a nuanced statement to a black and white blanketed one.
@L_W748
@L_W748 2 жыл бұрын
This is eye opening as a marriage and family therapy masters student! Marriage and Family therapists are trained to approach therapy by looking for dysfunctional systems and patterns in families and not just what pertains to the individual. And postmodern and narrative therapy models are very person centered and reject the idea of the therapist as the expert. They see the person as the expert on their own life experience. It is definitely worth interviewing and getting to know several therapists because there are so many different models and approaches
@jessymfwilson
@jessymfwilson 2 жыл бұрын
Its so true living through the trauma yourself can help others greatly. Now. I never am ashamed of my past and I will do anything for anyone else to help them through because no one should ever feel the pain I did. I find a lot of those with trauma and mental illness can really help and guide each other. I can speak for everyone but I am so here for everyone and anyone who has suffered and needs guidance with their CPTSD.
@mirjamenny
@mirjamenny 2 жыл бұрын
"It's a movement that recognizes HEALING as the result we want, not just treatment, not the preservation of old rules and ideas about who's in charge of healing. I'M IN CHARGE OF MY HEALING, YOU ARE IN CHARGE OF YOUR HEALING. We ask professionals for guidance and we ask survivors for guidance, and when it doesn't work, we try something else." Anna Runkle is dropping the truth bombs we all need to hear. Thank you to this community and thank you to Anna for destroying unhelpful mental health paradigms.
@ptwarari
@ptwarari 2 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@lindastokes3350
@lindastokes3350 2 жыл бұрын
I've never had luck with therapists. I'm so good at hiding my true feelings that I find myself saying what I think they want to hear and not my true feelings.
@peace-or2cp
@peace-or2cp 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's something that we women are trained into doing. I've seen very good therapists who have helped me a lot (having spent much time and money to do so and well worth it) and it wasn't until one pointed this out that things began to change for me. GL
@________1516
@________1516 2 жыл бұрын
Therapy can be a hit or miss and when it’s a “miss” the effects are severe. Being vulnerable to any individual (licensed or not) can be scary. Thank you for sharing, this video was helpful for me!
@renhersan
@renhersan 2 жыл бұрын
I have consulted multiple licensed therapists (and one psychiatrist) who have failed to provide meaningful guidance or recommendations. I can tell you that some of them made both my mental and physical health even worse. A licensed therapist once told me "I wish my father would have committed suicide like yours did, he would have died sooner and I wouldn't have had to deal with my father's death caused from smoking cigarettes". Or another one of my favorites: "Don't come see me if you're gonna complain about everything". That's what a licensed therapist told me, wish I was conveying a hyperbolic remark, but it's literally what she said to me. From that, I learned not trust a licensed therapist just because they have a license. It takes SO MUCH MORE than a license to be a good professional. I think that whatever hate you get is from people who don't really understand trauma. I've tried multiple approaches in trying to heal from trauma, and to me, you are one of the few people that understands how it works. I don't mind you not being a therapist at all. For the content that you provide to the public, I am very thankful to you and your team. I'm looking forward to starting my course soon!
@strashnayavedma9674
@strashnayavedma9674 2 жыл бұрын
No, I completely believe you as I've had similar experiences working with many therapists over the years with most not helping and some further harming me saying and doing some very inappropriate things. I know those experiences were horrible for me and I've been doubted when I tried to talk about some of it which just makes it worse. So I wanted to say I believe you and you're not alone ❤
@renhersan
@renhersan 2 жыл бұрын
@@strashnayavedma9674 Thank you ❤ I'm doing so much better than before, and I'm still learning about the different processes and options available to people like us. I hope that you are doing better, too ❤ it takes work, but with the guidance of people like the Fairy it all becomes clearer and things start making sense
@strashnayavedma9674
@strashnayavedma9674 2 жыл бұрын
@@renhersan I'm glad to hear you're doing better! It's still a struggle for me but I do feel like I'm slowly but surely making progress finally!
@meagiesmuse2334
@meagiesmuse2334 2 жыл бұрын
I had a licensed therapist tell me that I just had a really awful life, as far as she could see nothing could be changed, and then she asked me what I expected her to do about it in a dismissive voice.
@renhersan
@renhersan 2 жыл бұрын
@@meagiesmuse2334 I get that therapists are also people like us, but comments like those do more damage and no good. I feel you, sorry that you had a similar experience
@greendreem9684
@greendreem9684 2 жыл бұрын
Therapy was gaslighting for me. CBT in particular taught me that my reactions to the wrongdoings is the only thing I can control. Sure, this is true, but this just not applicable on trauma survivors/traumatic situations. As a trauma survivor, I took that as “if I didn’t have this reaction, maybe things would have been different” this is harmful because I essentially found a way to blame myself for my trauma in a different way. CBT also taught me to see the other persons side/empathize, again, this is great in a non traumatic/non abusive conflict, but not in the latter. Therapy operates as a one size fits all model, and trauma does not fit these models.
@80islandia
@80islandia Жыл бұрын
I hear you with CBT doing more harm than good. It set me back years. It assumes the self is a closed system and doesn’t put enough weight on identifying the relational and societal causes of trauma. Consequently, it is hard to see what is not our fault and what is our responsibility. This is dangerous, as the full brunt of responsibility for what happened to us falls on our shoulders to deal with-when we were probably already dealing with toxic shame, self-blame, and overwhelm to begin with. I’ve found narrative therapy to be more helpful if you’re looking for a different one-on-one modality to explore. Thank you for sharing and I wish you the best with your continued healing journey. 💛🌿
@karlsaintlucy
@karlsaintlucy 2 жыл бұрын
I came to EMDR after several tries with regular talk therapists. My last talk therapist before EMDR once broke down in tears during session because she couldn't figure out how to help. Of course she's just human and was having a human response, but it felt so invasive to me; I couldn't believe that, now, I was responsible for making her feel like she was good at her job, despite the lack of progress we were making, so I had to cut it off.
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds VERY uncomfortable! -Cara@TeamFairy
@CJ-uk1rt
@CJ-uk1rt 2 жыл бұрын
hey Anna, before I watch this video I need to thank you so much. You've changed my life. I started talking to a guy recently and he was nice but immediately started talking about sex. I stopped him and laid out my boundaries. I told him that I can't force him to respect my boundaries but if he isn't able to respect them, he can leave. I wasn't like this before, I used to give in, I was a people pleaser. I'm happy single and I'll be happy if I find a good person. Thank you once again❤
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your AMAZING progress...I get what a big deal that is :) -Cara@TeamFairy
@roseofsharon7551
@roseofsharon7551 Жыл бұрын
I can totally relate. I remember having trouble writing checks at the end of a session. I didn’t feel “safe” talking with therapists because I had immediate issues that I needed to work on - as a single mom with 2 special needs kids I didn’t have time to play around; I needed to find a way to be more present and did not need to waste my time entertainingly some stranger. I felt like my boundaries were constantly being violated by my therapists….they always wanted to go back to the childhood crap. I still have great contempt for and distrust of traditional mental health practitioners.
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy Жыл бұрын
You are not alone. -Cara@TeamFairy
@Soh583
@Soh583 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely Anna, I’ve working as a psychotherapist for the past 25 years. I find your work down to earth and effective. I think those therapist who say you shouldn’t do this are insecure and closed not to learn what’s out there. Keep up the good work sis. ❤️
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate this! -Cara@TeamFairy
@jillscheintal4600
@jillscheintal4600 2 жыл бұрын
I worked recently with EMDR and for some reason I still got dysregulated and felt very abandoned by the therapist who let me go home, suicidal, after the sessions. His apparent disinterest in hearing what happened to me was a trigger in itself. I've literally told nobody most of my stories and felt weirdly invisible in my life and childhood. I would like to try it again after I get anyone to witness some of my experiences and even tell me whether they were as wrong as they felt and why they've haunted me for decades. Maybe after I feel exhausted by the telling, then I could sit there and robotically move my eyes back and forth in order to clear or reprogram those neural pathways.
@smarteam5920
@smarteam5920 2 жыл бұрын
I think we forget that we can also let the therapist know what we need, instead of letting them guess. Because every client has different needs, even from session to session. So maybe in that instance with your therapist, the following session you could have let him know that you need some “debrief” time after the EMDR before going home. And as much as some people don’t want to verbalize over and over what happened in the past, it is important that someone has heard our story at least once. Hope this helps 🙏🏻💕
@d.2110
@d.2110 2 жыл бұрын
you could have had bad luck with the therapist maybe. I mean, there are therapists with high narcissistic personalities too of course, I had more than 1. Something else is that you might not have been able (yet) to ask for what you needed and express your feelings. I understand you need the recognition. Even a 'wow!' can be so soothing. Yet... we need to learn to go do that for ourselves (called 're-parenting'). Otherwise, we let another person, again, have power over our happiness. And we know that's dangerous. I would like to encourage you to try emdr again with someone else and express your needs and wants. And maybe try something like CoDA (Codependents Anonymous).
@wordivore
@wordivore 2 жыл бұрын
@@d.2110 My understanding about getting EMDR therapy is, at least for the most part, you don't just go do EMDR. The therapist and client need to develop some sort of trust first, which of course takes some talking. Some people WANT to talk. It's just that they need the right person to talk to about it.
@jillscheintal4600
@jillscheintal4600 2 жыл бұрын
@@d.2110 Really just depending on the professional to read the signs as I am not a professional and didn't know I had become disregulated. I tried to get another appt but was unable for a week, during which time I made plans to drive into the ocean.
@jillscheintal4600
@jillscheintal4600 2 жыл бұрын
@@bc2578 Tell it to the bees! (I agree the apathetic or cynical response does not foster trust.)
@mostcreativenickname
@mostcreativenickname 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, therapy helps me seeing myself and understanding my emotions. I’m in therapy since about 9months and I’ve recognized that it isn’t such an easy & magical process as I expected it to be. BUT: I feel like I have a lot of new tools that help me by dealing with my own life-and by “tools” I don’t mean concrete instructions but understanding and new perspectives. E.g. before I’ve started therapy I’ve never actively questioned simple things like “why did I react this way?” “why did I feel this way?” I wouldn’t try understanding what happened but judging myself based on whether my reaction/feeling made me a bad person or not. Now I most of the time feel much more relaxed and not-at-war with myself. It very slowly helps me in gaining self-awareness and by that confidence and better self-esteem.
@di3486
@di3486 2 жыл бұрын
Is also helpful to stop obsessing about “am I a good or bad person?”. I just concluded I am just a person.
@sourgreendolly7685
@sourgreendolly7685 10 ай бұрын
I have also gotten this from therapy but only over years and years of trying everything and I still need help because it's not just reactions holding me back at this point. Finding DBT skills was life changing for me but I still don't have much of a life and can't even work. therapists label me as resistant every time I need to slow down but this work is exhausting and I've been doing it for 2 decades now. It's impossible for people like me to continue to make progress like that; it's been DECADES of work, I will need to rest at times.
@user-dn8hd6xn1e
@user-dn8hd6xn1e 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like you’re on your way and found a good track. The best ones are pretty difficult and kind of a slog but the mountain can still be beautiful on the way up OR down - or on side tracks! The healing is rarely linear or contained to one small thing. It really feels like there are a lot of good, regulated mental health options now.
@sarah-anneperry6932
@sarah-anneperry6932 2 жыл бұрын
Therapy is amazing, it helps untangling so many things we have gone through and get it out of our chest. Unfortunately, I don't think neither the field of therapy nor the field of justice knows enough about CPTSD to help us move through it safely. I agree with you about the fact that most of it creates dysregulation instead of really healing us.
@Ziko577
@Ziko577 Жыл бұрын
If you already are struggling, it is a fool's gamble to think that these people can help and the field itself refuses to do the work to help us which forces us to gamble with them or just do it alone.
@kklock9057
@kklock9057 2 жыл бұрын
Anna, my ex-spouse suffered severe childhood trauma. You have helped me understand what might be going on with her, and given me the grace of being able to feel compassion instead of anger. Thank you so very much for that. I truly appreciate the work you are doing, and I hope mental health professionals will embrace it.
@lizann9374
@lizann9374 Жыл бұрын
At a very, very vulnerable point in my life I had a therapist tell me, after three sessions, that I was just "determined to be miserable". This was over 15 years ago and I still hear it clearly. Fortunately, I found a better therapist many years later whose methods really helped me. I think healing can come from many places and the only important thing is that we find something that helps us heal, and have the best possible life we can. I hope everyone out there struggling finds what they need.
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy Жыл бұрын
That's a harsh thing to say to someone coming for help- glad you found what you needed :) -Cara@TeamFairy
@CsaW4rri0r
@CsaW4rri0r 2 жыл бұрын
Cognitive behavioral therapy doesn't work for PTSD. The only thing I have ever found that has some positive effect is EMDR. Even then, I hit a wall after a while because a few of my childhood years are repressed.
@Fresahippie
@Fresahippie 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with your first point 💯 it doesn't work
@TranscendingTrauma
@TranscendingTrauma 2 жыл бұрын
I think CBT doesn’t work for PTSD because PTSD is so somatic. Meaning body-based. That’s why we have the emotional dysregulation. It’s very much a feeling thing not a cognitive thing.
@TranscendingTrauma
@TranscendingTrauma 2 жыл бұрын
@@melw3313 For sure! ❤️
@Leah-fw5kn
@Leah-fw5kn 2 жыл бұрын
I had therapy as well but it NEVER worked, it did not progress into healing. To be honest, it made me feel more of a victim mentality. This channel and similar are MOST helpful to me. I found myself being dishonest to a therapist as well because I didn't want them to "think" I wasn't "improving"...... I knew HOW I got emotionally damaged..... I NEVER learned how to overcome it all.... the therapist (I had 4 different ones) did most of the talking explaining to me what trauma was, something I already knew.
@painismyfavoritecolor8927
@painismyfavoritecolor8927 2 жыл бұрын
The issue is that when an image of “health” is created and pursued, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy for those deemed “unhealthy” by comparison. They’ll be stuck there forever- because the image of health, in reality, relies on the image of non-health to sustain it. It’s quite the paradox- and the solution lies in not finding the solution ;)
@mariaramos8267
@mariaramos8267 Жыл бұрын
So right.
@MrAhuraMazda
@MrAhuraMazda 2 жыл бұрын
Alfred Adler has an entire chapter on therapy and fees, and why it's ripe for abuse. The fact is when you're charging by the hour with no clear cut marks of "success", the opportunity for a therapist to waste hours just letting you spin your wheels is too great. Easy money. The fact is whether its Depth Psychology or SSRIs or Cognitive Behaviorial Therapy or any of it, the need FAR outweighs good help. Most therapists have NO clue how to help. And in most modern cases, theyre either there to let you talk and talk and make money, or they're drug dealers. It is VERY hard to find someone with actual answers. (And thats why I love this channel). **btw in case youre wondering, Alfred Adlers theory on psychology is actually enormously simple. He believed that in our youth we suffered blows based on our body defects or humiliation that gave us an Inferiority Complex and our entire life is spent trying to cope with that wound. Normally we do this by developing a Superiority Complex that drives us to horrible decisions trying to get one over on others. To essentially employ a Power drive to heal: and if youre successful you become a perfectionist and work obsessed. If youre bad at it you become maladaptive, defeated and withdrawn. To combat this, he said we need to develop "Social Usefulness", that is to do basic tasks and jobs where we help others. Thats it. Simply being useful to someone else. This is kinda like Alcoholics Anonymous where the goal is to take you and your bad decisions out of the center of your world, and be there for others. Not in an enmeshed, codependent way, but in a genuine way. To get out of your head, be productive, build confidence as a productive person that eventually can be dependendable. To Adler, that's what was healing.
@MrAhuraMazda
@MrAhuraMazda 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinaonline2619 the Adler book is called The Individual Psychology of Alfred Adler. It's big but pretty easy to read. Really insightful.
@NeuroSeasoned
@NeuroSeasoned Жыл бұрын
I'm very into Adler as a masters level student in a family therapy program. He deserves much more credit for his philosophy than he receives in our culture (of "rugged individualism")
@MsPingyin
@MsPingyin 2 жыл бұрын
Anna, I love your messages. I've been seeing a therapist for years, and only start watching you this year. I have healed so much in the past few months from watching your videos! I found that my therapist tried to fix the symptom while you go right to the core. For years, I've been following my therapist's advice, reading the books she suggested, yet, each time I finished a session, I felt more angry and worthless. Since watching your videos and doing the daily practice, I've learned to calm myself down, and to accept me and love me for who I am. I have one "good bye" session scheduled with my therapist in June, and that's IT!!! I am still learning/healing, but I am more confident that this is my journey, and only I know what's the best for me. Yes I am my therapist.
@Catbooks
@Catbooks 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you for realising that you are the expert when it comes to knowing what works best for you. A good therapist knows that and works with you on that basis. Unfortunately many don't. You're making great progress, and I wish you all the best in your continued healing journey.
@extrachrispy1
@extrachrispy1 2 жыл бұрын
I hope someday that The Body Keeps The Score and Waking The Tiger will be required reading for all therapists. 🙏Until then... we have wonderful resources like this channel that help us where traditional ones fail. Thank you for everything you do, our lovely Fairy! ❤️
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
I hope so too! -Cara@TeamFairy
@clairespinks2953
@clairespinks2953 2 жыл бұрын
PLEASE KNOW THIS!!! I have CPTSD. I show your posts to my lovely hubby (a police officer of 25 yrs) & my 17 yr old son. You use the words I don’t know how to use, & they watch you & GET IT!!! You are helping sooo many people on so many different levels that you’re not aware of! TY SO MUCH!! 💕
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
That is incredible!! So happy to hear Anna's videos have been helpful for you and your family. So much healing. - Ashley, Team Fairy
@legalfictionnaturalfact3969
@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 Жыл бұрын
Get your husband the therapy he needs
@MelBlossom
@MelBlossom 2 жыл бұрын
I just told a therapist I felt like I was getting worse and quit and was told I was quitting "the process". It was unbelievable and made me feel like I was being crazy but the evidence was there. I'd taken a few weeks off because I was really suicidal and didn't want anyone involved if the worst happened and after the suicidal feelings passed I saw me handling things better and felt more in control but I didn't want to be thinking I was better when I wasn't so I asked to go every other week...he said no...every week or nothing. I knew I had to do what made me strong so I had to go but now I'm dealing with another abandonment and by a therapist so I've been feeling really bad. Thank you. This is really reassuring that I was right it was making me worse and not feel so down on him...he didn't know. Thank you so much for this and all your videos! 💖🐾🗡️
@bigfigism
@bigfigism 2 жыл бұрын
you've more to offer than any therapist I have ever dealt with. let all the people with letters behind their name set down, shut up, and take notes. luv what you do, kudos!
@Oreocare
@Oreocare 2 жыл бұрын
I experienced the opposite. The therapists I met didn’t want to hear my story at all. I had remained silenced for years and once I garnered up enough courage to discuss the trauma; I was constantly shut down. I know now that I simply needed help processing the emotions connected to the traumatic events but the therapists I hired never gave me that chance. Now that I am in my thirties, I have processed those painful emotions through self-talk and a supportive spouse, so if there’s such a thing as luck then maybe that’s how I lucked out in this awful circumstance. 🤷🏽‍♀️
@clairehillier9818
@clairehillier9818 2 жыл бұрын
Talk therapy or counciling for me was traumatic to the point I would have to take days off work after going because I couldn’t cope with the feelings I was feeling which were brought up during my session. I felt like my therapist didn’t understand and didn’t give me any support. I didn’t feel judges, just not understood. Retelling your past hurts definitely is dis regulating. I used to go for reiki after my therapy because it was the only thing that would calm my thoughts and emotions. I’ve tried to ask my GP for help but the nhs just refer you back to talk therapy. In the uk I feel or at least struggle to find help with CPTSD.
@primrosedahlia9466
@primrosedahlia9466 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same experience. I have yet to meet a therapist who knows what they are doing. The therapists I have paid have not had any knowledge about personality disordered people, dysfunctional families, childhood programming, trauma and dysregulation/cptsd. I saw an expensive trauma specialist who had zero understanding and made me feel extremely dysregulated. She triggered me a lot because she didn't believe me. She kept repeating that "that is your version of the story". That's the worst thing you can tell someone who's grown up with mind games and been confused most of their lives due to the Neverending circle of abuse, love bombing, word salad .. I felt so powerless after seeing her. I've lost all respect for psychologists. I decided to start therapy with myself and I've managed to heal a lot that way - by learning how to have healthy relationships, how to assert healthy boundaries, and how to take care of myself and to love myself. Not one fucking therapist I saw did any of that. They keep their clients stuck IN the trauma.. And they don't know how to differentiate between mentally ill (abusor) and emotionally injured people (victim) ...
@clairehillier9818
@clairehillier9818 2 жыл бұрын
@@primrosedahlia9466 thank you for responding, I 100% agree or at least have felt I’ve had the same experience. The councilor/therapists I’ve visited have always made me questions myself and I’ve always felt worse for it. I work for the nhs só get free therapy but the one I saw could only relate to addiction. He was my work place free councilor. I’m a single parent with no support. I have cut my family off as I found they were the majority of the issues. The rest was trying to understand my childhood and why I was treated so badly. I guess I still feel it was because of me in some respects but I’m others I just want to know how a mother could be so cruel. I have two daughters who are 17&16 and could never be so abusive towards them.
@primrosedahlia9466
@primrosedahlia9466 2 жыл бұрын
@@clairehillier9818 Same story here. Single mother, very little help due to growing up in a dysfunctional family. It's so difficult to have a parent/parents who were/are cruel. It's a life long trauma because we will always mourn not having loving caring parents who were there for us. I would also never do what I've had done unto me to my children. I think what the therapists I've seen have lacked the most is the ability to understand how narcissism breeds a system. How it's not about that one single trauma but it's 24/7 things they said, did, treathened to do - and how they triangulated all our relationships, did smear campaigns, +++. It's so complex that talking to a therapist about every single situation would take all eternity and would be totally useless in the long run. That's why I feel it's so important to have ways of healing the dysregulation that all of those traumas created. I went no contact for several years. I went back into contact about a year and a half ago, which is not ideal.
@Al........
@Al........ 2 жыл бұрын
I've been told my an NHS consultant 'I can't refer you for psychotherapy, because their isn't any', this was last June. I have come to the conclusion that unless you are sectioned or try to harm yourself, you are on your own. I managed to find a charity to help me, they have students who are training to qualify in psychotherapy... it was my last option, I have spent 6 months discussing my problems and I have helped the student more than myself, I quit with them today... when someone tells me a book by Opera is a 'go to book' and started to trigger me by making comments about what my body language ment every time I made a move in my chair I knew I was wasting my time. I think I honestly could help someone more than they could. I will keep pushing on, my anxiety feels better already today. I have suffered years of abuse from my family, my mother and sister especially, none of us did anything wrong, the abusers won't see what they have done is wrong either. Look after yourself.
@MrsLadyLiberty
@MrsLadyLiberty 2 жыл бұрын
Ketamine therapy has been really helping me. I've been in various types of therapy on and off for 34 of 39 years. Very few times has therapy been helpful and often times it ends up being traumatizing. Not just re-traumatizing, but new trauma in addition to old trauma. I don't know how ketamine therapy works to help but it feels like an emotional reset.
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience, interesting stuff! -Cara@TeamFairy
@beckythornton6470
@beckythornton6470 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrappyChildhoodFairy I am just in the process of signing up for Ketamine infusion therapy too. It is my last ditch try at resolving my CPTSD. Talking for years and years to professionals has not helped. I am entering my late 60's and would like to have year or two of clarity, energy, closeness and relative peace. Depression, anxiety and fear have secretly ruled my adult life and colored most of my choices. I'm adept at covering, hiding and lying about it. I got treatment for my drug addiction (3 1/2 yrs clean from opiates and tranquilizers), divorced my husband of 38 yrs, quit smoking after doing it for 50 yrs, and am trying to care about and love myself the best that I can. I wish I didn't feel so damned sad and kind of hopeless. I recognize the realities of my life and it is terrifying to feel so shaky, even after making significant progress. I am hoping against hope that Ketamine is helpful. The hype on it about brain reset and growing new neural pathways is promising and appealing. My fingers, toes AND eyes are crossed!!!
@brendaplunkett8659
@brendaplunkett8659 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds scary to me to get Ketamine in the mail and do it yourself. What if you have a bad reaction? What are you supposed to do then? I have seen ads in my KZbin feed. Thats not disturbing, Lol.
@user-he6rs8xi7u
@user-he6rs8xi7u 7 ай бұрын
​@@beckythornton6470MDMA is better for ptsd
@RJones-tn5vg
@RJones-tn5vg Ай бұрын
I appreciate that you don't claim to be a therapist. You talk about what helped you. It might help us, it might not, but it's not hurting us to try. I'm so glad you're doing well now.
@tomtbi
@tomtbi 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's actually easier to work with someone that has actually dealt with CPTSD themselves that have been there ..
@freshlimejuice
@freshlimejuice 2 жыл бұрын
I feel judgement from my therapist when I tell her I'm not doing well again or I have been backsliding. She will shut down and just kind of stare at me. I feel pressure to talk about the "tools" I'm going to use again that I've been neglecting just to make her feel better- like she's not wasting her time.
@hunivan7672
@hunivan7672 2 жыл бұрын
Since I stopped talking about the horrible things that happened to me I have a better life. I still talk about it sometimes just so that people know what I'm dealing with, but all in all, I stopped talking about my bad parents and various other issues all the time.
@clairehillier9818
@clairehillier9818 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t talk to anyone about my past but the therapy I went to. Some people don’t feel safe telling people what they went through and a therapist is meant to be a safe space. When you can’t speak about your traumas with friends or family the only ppl left is a therapist.
@sixthsenseamelia4695
@sixthsenseamelia4695 2 жыл бұрын
ASD. Verbal + audio sensory overload are a constant source of anxiety & burnout. Talk therapy is like prescribing smoking to someone who has lung cancer. Writing thoughts/feelings gathers cotton wool & knits them into a blanket.
@strashnayavedma9674
@strashnayavedma9674 2 жыл бұрын
This subject stirred me so much I wrote out all the ways talk therapy has not only failed me for the 30 yrs I've been seeking help but has further traumatized and harmed me in so many ways, realized I missed the whole video, deleted, and went back to pay attention to what you're saying. 😂 To make a long story short YES!! I'm so right there with you! I make better progress on my own with books, videos by people like you, and other sources.
@conniejarrett3997
@conniejarrett3997 2 жыл бұрын
I am a therapist. I appreciate and relate to what you are saying. I also quit therapy. I like your writing technique and I could see how it could work. When I was really in crisis with health a couple years ago, what helped me was Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) aka "tapping." I believe that the processes are all similar as in your writing technique, EMDR, and EFT, where you make a simple statement about the trauma and then allow the meditative mind to process it. My tapping coach is not a licensed therapist, yet working with her has been really helpful. I think that the agency I work for has retraumatized people, in some cases, by being too aggressive with traumatized people. I hear and appreciate what you are saying. Thank you.
@Ririk9
@Ririk9 2 жыл бұрын
I had many therapists that didn't help at all but my last one did. I had an intensive group and private therapy course and we did DBT sessions. It was much less talking therapy and more based on skills and coping mechanisms. She taught me how to cope in the present moment and wasn't so focused on the talk therapy. X
@tunneltu
@tunneltu 7 ай бұрын
I had a theraphist that used EFT(tapping technique) while talking through stuff, and I always left the session feeling lighter and positive. When leaving a regular pshycologist I would always leave worse then when I came in, heart and mind racing. So I totally agree.
@MrAhuraMazda
@MrAhuraMazda 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the off topic comment but what Im learning about myself through my experience with Limerence and your videos, is it's not just my romantic world that's susceptible to being overwhelmed by fantasy, but my entire life. The more I fix myself the more I see it. Yes, I am guilty of pining over unobtainable girls who I don't have a realistic shot at and wasting a lot of energy on that, but the more I dive into that, the more I realize my ENTIRE life is that. Carl Jung refers to this as a "provincial life" in his discussion of the Puer Aeternus (his conceptualization of a man in Limerence, an entirnal child living in the sky: a girl version is called a Puella Aeternus). My whole life has a fog of Limerence. Even when Im forcing myself to not think about certain girls, I'm still in the fog. I think the type of person who is a victim of Limerence is a victim of a much bigger problem. A total fantasy existence. Kind of life disassociation on a constant, very low level scale. I dont think Limerence just pops up in normal functioning people, but those who spend massive energy with their heads in the clouds on EVERYTHING. And the Limerence is just the romantic substitute for that area of their life. Which I will admit, when its at its peak commands and ENORMOUS amount of what Jung called numina (psychic energy). Drains us. Limerence rides us like a horse. This is also where the phrase "nightmare" comes from, a ghost that rides you at night like a mare and drains you. Its draining to live like this.
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Great insight, thanks for sharing. -Cara@TeamFairy
@Benjaminleo815
@Benjaminleo815 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully stated!
@lorrainecortes7296
@lorrainecortes7296 2 жыл бұрын
I was in talk therapy for trauma phobia ,anxiety & I couldn't believe what this Physciatrist was telling me "your not suppose to feel like that," "your suppose to feel like this" I'm feeling invalidated, if I said something about my age (I'm a senior & so is she in our 60's) she would correct me to say age is but a number. & I'd say we'll I'm way older & been around longer than a 30 year old!! This wasn't therapy it was her control, I got the heck away & dumped her & the antidepressant I was on!! Because I know it's OK to feel what I was feeling until I'm healed!!
@marshallsmountain
@marshallsmountain 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone ignorant enough to call you "dangerous" is a part of the CPTSD problem, Anna. Your courses and videos are affording me an effective way to true healing. Please keep up the good work!!
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@powerfullyugly
@powerfullyugly 2 жыл бұрын
The experience you described sounds a lot like my attempts at CBT /DBT, and just my general life experience when trying to work out what was wrong - I’m certainly not suggesting this is the problem for everyone, but, for me, turned out adderall (adhd medication) was the fix. I was pretty much able to function until things got difficult. I’d put so many systems in place to cope with what I thought was anxiety / depression, from such a young age, that by the time I got to my late 40’s they were just so normalized. 6 months medicated, and I’m still learning how to think clearly, breaking down negative thought processes, survival methods …. That I’m able to actually work on my childhood CPTSD. It took adderall for me to realize that moving out of home at the age of 15 wasn’t some strong, independent, kick ass, mature action, but actually a child doing what she needed to do what she needed to do to survive. I’m working on forgiving myself for the actions and things that happened to that child that I didn’t even realize were messed up until I was in my 40’s and still struggling to navigate relationships.
@powerfullyugly
@powerfullyugly 2 жыл бұрын
I’d seen 3 therapists and 2 psychiatrists until I self diagnosed myself with ADHD (which was then confirmed). I’m still very irritated it took 15 years for me to know something was wrong and not have the professionals even hint that that could be an issue. To whoever is reading this … don’t give up, if you know something is wrong, educate yourself! I understand the dangers of self diagnoses, be mindful of that … but keep doing independent research cos the professionals don’t always pick up on the obvious.
@jennw6809
@jennw6809 2 жыл бұрын
​@@powerfullyugly Preach. I've had a similar experience. I'm another here who saw multiple therapists and.... well, I have a LOT of complaints about them, but one big one is that I told every. single. one. of them I had "ADHD-like" symptoms and not one ever 1) told me that's part of trauma or 2) suggested I might get treated for the ADHD. Like EVERYTHING, I eventually figured it out myself with the help of KZbin and other resources, and I feel the med has given me the psychological room and energy to actually work on myself!
@oldtownwitch
@oldtownwitch 2 жыл бұрын
@@jennw6809 that last sentence really rings true with me. I’m reading “Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving” - it’s hard work but helping I think :)
@jennw6809
@jennw6809 2 жыл бұрын
@@oldtownwitch That's where I started. Wish I had read The Body Keeps The Score right after. Good luck. You'll need it! 🙂
@alyjiyu
@alyjiyu 2 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel today & wish I found you sooner! My (5th) therapist of 5 yrs. suddenly left the clinic I've been going to for 12 yrs/ short notice. I was left hung to dry, hard-detoxing from psych meds I've been on 11 yrs., as the clinic nurse never renewed my prescriptions, never returned calls or messages...all while the head psychiatrist went on vacation. The 7yr. anniversary of my father's death last month coincided with my last phone session with her, after being denied entry into the clinic (phone only) during the 3 yr. pandemic unless I got vaccinated. Unfortunately, health issues @ 68 made that a huge no-no. This has been 3 weeks in hell, left alone through grueling physical withdrawals & disregulation. Ten years ago, I begged them for EMDR therapy, having read so much about it, but it was denied unless I was addicted to opioids as a 'drug seeker,' despite already being prescribed cancer-strength pain meds for long term stress turned into fibromyalgia. Watching this episode pulled me out of darkness swallowing me & 180° shifted me out of that place. This information may have saved my life today, and I'm grateful. Thank You🙏
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome here!
@colleen6050
@colleen6050 2 жыл бұрын
I agree Anna, It took a somatic and trauma-informed therapist using EMDR and other transformative therapies to help me. I think the problem I had with basic talk therapy is the therapist didn't ask the right questions.
@anxen
@anxen 2 жыл бұрын
Dissociative issues are so much more prevalent than is recognised: I thought of you when I read this quote from "Healing the Fragmented Selves of Trauma Survivors: Overcoming Internal Self-Alienation" by Janina Fisher - "As the client reports “too much activation,” “too much noise in my head,” “too many thoughts going too fast,” or “critical voices humiliating me,” the therapist asks her to see what happens if she asks the parts to “just sit back a little” or “sit back and make more room for you. Explain that you can help them better if they will sit back just a little.” Framed in this way, the parts are not threatened, and there is something in it for them-the availability of help." -from Janina Fisher book on
@akrinord
@akrinord 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I'm a therapist who work with CPTSD on a daily basis, and I agree with you: teaching a fragile patient skills to regulate their anxiety is critical before going into any sort of trauma - either spoken or imagined. Mostly we eventually (and very carefully) get there, but if not, then we'll work with the patient's problems in other ways. There are different techniques for this/different models like IPT/ISTDP/EMDR etc. To just expose someone to their trauma without working with regulating the anxiety first risks causing re-traumatisation/a dysregulated response above the threshold as you said. Then again, there are differents schools for this and perhaps there is a preferred tradition in the States I'm not aware of (I'm not American). I will also just mention the other side of the coin when it comes your, and others, critique of "talk therapy": It's very common with patients who "just want to talk", and who can get fairly annoyed when I point out that just talking is in fact not therapy. Not everyone is open to the idea they might have to work on their behaviour, learn different techniques etc to heal. Anyway, thank you for sharing your perspective and valuable experiences when it comes to healing from complex trauma, I will certainly watch more of your videos :)
@NeuroSeasoned
@NeuroSeasoned Жыл бұрын
I'm about to start my practicum (as an MFT student trainee) in 2 weeks, and I'm drawn mostly to experiential and somatic approaches, whereas so many others in my cohort just want to take a "person-centered" approach and just "be a safe vessel" for the client. Effffff That! I have explicitly told therapists (and PhD psychologists!), "you need to interrupt me and guide me when I'm dysregulating" ... They'd try for a few weeks then back to the same old "and how does that feel? What do you want to do?" bullcrap. Thank goodness I found my current therapist who has me slow way down to do the necessary somatic work, and to really understand it in order to accept that the work is worth doing.
@keepitsimple4629
@keepitsimple4629 2 жыл бұрын
I once went to a family therapist, who when I arrived, fiddled around for the first 5 minutes trying to find my file. I was paying $55/hour. I had an appointment, so he certainly knew I was coming. Seeing him was the biggest waste of time (and money). Now if I have a problem, I talk to God in prayer, and he helps me find solutions. It's cheaper, and deepens my faith.
@kelliesmith4068
@kelliesmith4068 2 жыл бұрын
Along a similar vein, I homeschooled my children. I'd get flack from some who who educated & licensed to be teachers, my own mother in law being one of them. Now that my children are grown, respectable & successful business in their chosen businesses, she tells me I knew what I was doing as the proof is in how my children behave & treat others. I knew how to raise & teach my 3 children due to my own life experiences. So, when I hear you that those who are educated & licensed are hassling you, my question is what do THEY need therapy for? If they are threatened by you, they need to take stock of the fact that we are not all square pegs that fit in square holes. We are all unique & those who find success should be honored & praised for marching to their own drum. I appreciate the confidence you exude as you tell 'them' just who the hell you are! You do it with might & are empowered in who the hell you are! U Go, Anna!
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support of Anna's work! -Cara@TeamFairy
@synesthesia.aesthetic
@synesthesia.aesthetic 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely have had some rough therapy experiences. I first saw one at age 12, just a few sessions with a child psychologist that my Mom eventually screamed and cursed at during a brief session between the two of them. When I was 16, I was sent to a neuro-psychiatrist who I confided in about self harm, feeling suicidal and being verbally and physically abused by my parents. I told her I'd rather go to a group home or psych ward than live them. She then asked them to come in for a session and right in front of them did the following: 1) accused me of cutting for attention (all my cuts were hidden). 2) said the state law of legal corporal punishment was on my parent's side so they were allowed to hit me. 3) that if I entered inpatient treatment I would manipulate my doctors into believing I was sicker than I was so I could stay longer. I was stunned and felt very, very alone and small. I stopped seeing her shortly after. I tried a couple more times in the years after but never had stable insurance so I couldn't really build trust. Finally in my mid 20s, I met a counselor I could really confide in and after I told her a deep, shameful and painful secret, she moved her practice and I never saw her again. One day when I have good insurance I want to try again but this has been truly exhausting.
@DawnYarnDoll
@DawnYarnDoll 2 жыл бұрын
I was asking the therapist am I doing therapy wrong because I was suffering just as you explained with the dysregulation and cptsd symptoms. Thank you for validating my experience and emotions so kindly. Sending positive vibes xo
@Crystalquartz964
@Crystalquartz964 2 жыл бұрын
@Walter Nicolas is messaging lots of ladies on here ... BEWARE. I have blocked him myself
@cmsbeth
@cmsbeth 2 жыл бұрын
This advice was life changing for me! I thought I was too broken for therapy to work! This totally explains why talk therapy has not worked and the way you described it, is scientific. The "hopefulness" that next session will be better, is the worst part...or maybe it was all the wasted money!?
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! I relate to the wasted money (omg it still hurts)! -Cara@TeamFairy
@shorelined1
@shorelined1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I went through this from about 13 onward, over 2 decades also. I learned what disregulation means from YOU Anna. Thank you. I thought I was just really sad and upset. I'd be told "times up" and feel SO VULNERABLE! Soaked in tears, trying to breathe, while getting shuttled out for the next client. So many times I left shattered, ready to step in front of a bus. Often I'd have to pull over into a nearby parking lot to recover before I could drive home. When I'd say something about it, they took it like I was complaining or not trying. I also got shut down with annoyed looks and comments. When a therapist picked apart how I dressed, insisting if I looked better I wouldn't feel bad, she didn't think that maybe I dressed kind of sad because I was broke, and often homebound with agoraphobia, stress and depression. Talk about feeling hopeless from a therapist! She completely missed what was at the base of it. I tried EMDR too, but they had me relive the trauma first. I'm going to try it again without the first weeks spent on detailing my history & feeling retraumatised. Therapy is not good for all. This subject needs to be shared, often. For a long time I felt like if therapy doesn't work, I'm doomed or broken. Thanks to Anna and other alternatives I found. Everyone is unique. Keep trying and give yourself credit for hanging on.
@ceilebathrick6412
@ceilebathrick6412 11 ай бұрын
Goodness this was so beautiful to see you come out and speak on what You are in this healing movement ✨🌸😌
@amethystfire3076
@amethystfire3076 2 жыл бұрын
I feel exactly the same. I hate it. I leave there a lot of the time crying when I get in the parking lot to the car fighting back tear until I get there so no one will see me. It embarrassed me. I felt like I should right a mini book to had a new therapist so I don't have to relive my past situations when I mention them or she does. I will stop there. I could go on and on about it.
@Mberann
@Mberann Жыл бұрын
After a time of feeling so numb and beaten down, I Feel Soo inspired by you, so much that I thought you were a therapist!! but you are shattering walls and so incredible! Thank you. All in one morning, I’ve been in tears, laughing, smiling, angry, aware and feeling all of it. So alive and it’s feels tiring but good and freeing. I don’t care about certification anymore, I care about relating with real human content. Thank you 10 million times to you and your videos helping me feel more connected, inspired and supported.
@Bootricia
@Bootricia 2 жыл бұрын
My therapists enjoy talking with me too much so it becomes like a hang out session which is so awkward for me as the client. Your videos are so helpful and so validating. Thank you. ❤️
@danielaspitz3052
@danielaspitz3052 2 жыл бұрын
I never had Therapy, only tried it once and the Therapist told me to grab a pillow and beat her, imagine it was my mother. Of course I couldn't. Had various talks with social helpers with my mother there, when I was young. I also got abused by my stepfather at the age of 12. My mother convinced EVERYONE that I'm lying, so I gave up seeking help. I would have been diagnosed a BP, now I know I'm struggling with CPTSD, made various changes in my life- and I'm healing, in just one year, since knowing about my mother and an Ex being covert narcs. All my sruggles made sense, all of a sudden.
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
You sound as if you are on your way! -Cara@TeamFairy
@g.jelli...
@g.jelli... 2 жыл бұрын
I really applaud you for bringing this subject to light. When the end goal is healing, why can't we all work together towards that end? Licensed, not licensed, etc. it doesn't really matter. What matters is RESULTS. And how we find healing is a unique path for each of us. Your channel, Anna, is a godsend for me and so many others. I'm finding more healing here than I ever did in my 50 minute weekly sessions on "the couch" that left me in a complete mess every single time. I'm definitely a work in progress, but at least there IS progress now. Many thanks and much love to you and your team. ❤❤❤
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing :) -Cara@TeamFairy
@Heyu7her3
@Heyu7her3 Жыл бұрын
Licensure does matter, not only with training but also in regards to legality and lawsuits
@frankendoll1455
@frankendoll1455 2 жыл бұрын
Love you Anna! Count me as a life you have saved by teaching what you have learned, when no one else could. I thank the stars for your teachings every single day!✌️💜✨️
@skincarejerk6040
@skincarejerk6040 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!!! I’ve had two therapists and they both sucked. It takes so long to find one and it’s like.... I’ve made way more progress researching strategies on my own
@Truman77.
@Truman77. Жыл бұрын
After a bad break up I sought therapy and did this for 2 years. Looking back it didn't change my upset as I didn't realise I had CPTSD. I had read that therapy was healing with research to back this up. I also tried journalling, prayer, meditation and self directed CBT with no movement. Recently took the free Dailly Practice course, after many years of struggling, noticing an immediate improvement. Also when I didn't do the daily practice I would be focused upon past trauma. Thank you for the Daily Practice.
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy Жыл бұрын
Big hugs to you! It's wonderful, isn't it?
@MsWing-ij9nb
@MsWing-ij9nb 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing about your past conflicting experiences with talk therapy, Anna! I’ve had similar experiences with being dysregulated during and after therapy sessions- dealing with the judgment and/or blank stares. And minimal to no practical coping techniques/guiding insights. Your free exercises and advice as preventatives/approaches to manage triggers from your own research, practice and compassion- (practical ways to ground and deal with CPTSD)- are gifts to the world. Thanks for your generosity and courage. Your openness, innovation, honesty and persistence in helping people with CPTSD starting with your own journey is what makes you as impactful and trustworthy as you are. It shouldn’t be radical for mental health professionals / counselors to connect to clients in the way that you do (sharing your own personal experiences and practices in managing CPTSD) in the field- yet that framework of division/distance is still prevalent. Each survivor of abuse and neglect has the right to figure out their own unique path to recovery and growth… and thank goodness for platforms like yours where folks are exposed to accessible techniques / free guidance - to feel seen/heard/empathized. Keep up the wonderful work :)
@Jennifer-di4nl
@Jennifer-di4nl 2 жыл бұрын
The best therapy is reading/watching videos to understand the type of abuse and how not to fall into the cycle in the future. That and time.
@regularity2556
@regularity2556 2 жыл бұрын
My therapist made me so uncomfortable, she made a list of things that I was to do and I felt so pressured that I stopped going to see her.
@di_kid00
@di_kid00 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video... I've been in talk therapy and started EMDR last year. It has helped, but I also had to retell and relive horrendous memories that would put me out for days. On the side, I also diligently did work on my own-- I was consistently writing, journaling, learning about how to regulate myself through channels like yours and talks by Dr. Gabor Mage and Dr. Bessel van der Kolk. What I didn't know is that there is no need to retell the traumas during EMDR. This is completely news to me, because I have been asked to retell out loud what memories are within my head, the flashbacks and bad things that happened, the session would end with me being completely and utterly dysregulated and overwhelmed. The therapist would also tell me how bad my childhood was compared to theirs, or would give endless validations even when it made me feel uncomfortable. There were also emotional reactions my therapist would have while in EMDR that would lead to me feeling shut down. They made it seem like I needed to keep retelling past truamas until I was numb to it... Which hasn't been the case at all. Before ending the sessions with my therapist, I will try to do EMDR without having to say out loud those stories. Thank you once again for sharing!
@laurad1487
@laurad1487 2 жыл бұрын
Yes..the days after talking about it are awful, the sessions are grueling, like going head first on a sled down a rocky slope,and I am completely shut down, feeling beat up and run over for days after
@ragacats
@ragacats 2 жыл бұрын
I love what you are doing Fairy. I am a therapist and I recommend your channel frequently. I totally agree that talk therapy is not going to do anything for trauma. I felt very sad for you that your therapy brought you so much grief- until EMDR. Yes EMDR and Somatic Experiencing both release a different part of the brain than talk. Let’s keep learning and sharing what we discover. 👏❤️👍🙏
@lynnlewis9938
@lynnlewis9938 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, what you share here is SO important and I've never heard it talked about. Thank you so much for getting it out into words. What's going on in the present often has to be dealt with first, and looking into the past isn't always helpful at a given point. The only talk therapy I have found helpful is with soul mates (rare friends) I've known and built trust with over time, who share equally from their own lives, and don't charge $ for their time.
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! -Cara@TeamFairy
@kobbimbimu9943
@kobbimbimu9943 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I have a stutter and it gets so bad when I try to narrate traumatic past events. I find writing really easy and healing. I cannot afford a therapist and your channel has really helped me.
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing, glad you're here! -Cara@TeamFairy
@keithstewart7514
@keithstewart7514 Жыл бұрын
I've written hundreds upon hundreds of pages to my mother in this year like last year to my sadistically Catholic mother but now I don't give her Narc Supply by sending her them. No more books of stamps 4 months or so, so far.
@nilgiridreaming
@nilgiridreaming 2 жыл бұрын
EMDR worked for me! Did not need to talk anything thru. So helpful.
@AddMoreVeggies
@AddMoreVeggies Жыл бұрын
I'm 57 with a narcissistic father and passive aggressive codependent mother. First husband angry and second husband narcissistic. I've been in and out of all types of therapies, etc. throughout my life. Everything you say rings true to me. None of the therapists helped at all. I mostly felt worse. I just kept reliving the past and creating more chaos. Dr. Joe Dispenza was the first person who actually helped me (meditation and not talking about the past at all, just moving towards feeling good emotions), but I got stuck on needing to heal my past (without reliving it and expecting antidepressants to fix it). I needed to heal my past so that I would stop co-creating my messy life. Although I have been seeking relief and help all my life, until I believed that I could heal, I was just going around in circles going no where. And you appeared in my life magically. THANK YOU! I've watched about 15 of your videos so far (all in 3 days) and WOW! How did you know? No one knew. No one could help. No one understood until you came along. Wow. I don't know what to say. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!
@vieuxcarrie1
@vieuxcarrie1 2 жыл бұрын
Knowledge is power. Understanding how we got this way is the foundation we need. Talk therapy wants you to figure it out yourself but to have some help you realize this isn’t your fault, and not reliving it is priceless. Thanks for this.
@BareLux
@BareLux 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a therapist, and your are spot on. I’m rocking with you.
@eminayiden
@eminayiden 2 жыл бұрын
in the most simple way trauma stems from not feeling safe and not feeling in control so it only makes sense that whatever path of healing one chooses, that it is based on letting go of control and regaining a sense of empowerment instead. trauma happens inside of us and so must healing. true healing, however it is achieved, is something you can take with you wherever you go, not something you need to depend on externally.
@toyahbetheglory2140
@toyahbetheglory2140 2 жыл бұрын
This video is a gift for mankind. We are each responsible for our own healing journey! ❤
@user-he6rs8xi7u
@user-he6rs8xi7u 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I had two young lady therapists bully me in an outpatient program because I didn't return their flirtations. Both moved on to other clients romantically, but actually bullied me. Crazy out there. One wasnt even my therapist.
@ladyofspa
@ladyofspa Жыл бұрын
Knowing who I really am, getting to know the self that Was untouchable by all the gunk and illusions ,Made perfectly with flaws placed me on a journey of healing self love, and esteem. Reparenting myself giving myself what I always wanted it's daily work but I study various practices and stay out of therapy that helped ZERO.
@bidbadgray
@bidbadgray 2 жыл бұрын
you've hit the nail on the head for me, my childhood trauma is multi layered from parents to institutional ect, recently I had what I would call invasive therapy and the childish notions I used to protect myself for all those years were cleared away, and I recalled exact details. in a nutshell I've spent the last 3 years in a triggered state. Thank you for showing me there is a way out of this mindset.
@Evey108
@Evey108 2 жыл бұрын
You go, Anna! People will always talk and know better... you do you ❤ we are grateful for you
@bethtaylor9773
@bethtaylor9773 2 жыл бұрын
The writing it and then reading it to my sponsor is what worked for me too. That's how my sponsor did steps with me - starting with step one. When I sponsor someone, that's how I ask them to do it too. Sometimes we have to start with and practice with slogans and then move to step one.
@connieketring8315
@connieketring8315 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's wonderful that you're doing what you do! You are helping so many people! Probably more than you even know.
@mazzmarymaria
@mazzmarymaria 2 жыл бұрын
Im so greatful to you Anna for making this channel. My experience was exactly the same with talk therapy. Your channel helped me identify whats wrong with me and start my healing journey. Thank you so much!
@helloworld188
@helloworld188 2 жыл бұрын
I could never label what I felt during therapy sessions.. You helped me finagle my way out of ruining myself further thank you for the enlightenment!
@NatalieArriola
@NatalieArriola 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I have had the exact problem you describe every time I have tried therapy. The story you tell about being flustered and unable to write the check is sooo relatable. I can’t tell you how many times I have felt that way in my daily life. Repeating the trauma stories doesn’t make sense to me especially when I’ve worked through so much of it in my own way already. The last time I sought help I saw both a therapist and psychiatrist. I was not only thrown completely out of wack emotionally for the duration of the process, but I felt like the psychiatrist completely ignored what I was telling him. Rather than listening to my concerns over my current life challenges and the anxiety it was causing, he told me I was depressed and insisted on prescribing anti-depressants. His reasoning was that I cried when I talked about my childhood and in his words “crying isn’t a symptom of anxiety.” I told him I didn’t agree with him but had a very difficult time articulating my feelings probably because I was experiencing the disregulation you speak of. His total dismissal of my struggles with anxiety, which has been a life long issue for me, was incredibly demoralizing and also triggered a lot of shit from my past surrounding feelings of never being listened to and understood. I was so angry and disillusioned by this experience it impacted me for weeks after breaking it off with both the therapist and the psychiatrist and it brought about a temporary depression I had not been experiencing previously. I have always sought to heal myself of my past traumas since I’ve never had any luck when seeking the help of others, and I have been successful at this in a lot of ways, but I still struggle all the time. It is amazing to hear someone talk about similar experiences and to offer alternatives to traditional therapy. Thank you so so much! ❤️
@limitedtime5471
@limitedtime5471 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for speaking on this. I always felt so "yucky" in therapy and then I'd crap fit until i couldn't bear it anymore. My family judges me so hard for not being in therapy even though i put in much more time for my mental health than 1 hr a week
@yourstrulyclee1341
@yourstrulyclee1341 2 жыл бұрын
EMDR helped me so much with my ptsd! Btw your story just made me think about the thing that made me much more confident about my own life and that was asking help for my household and garden. I am not good at keeping up with regular tangible things because at times doesn’t have any priority for me. But still I like a clean house/garden. I’d rather be creative and at peace for my mental health and I know I need this at times for a while to get up again. It really helps! Thank you for sharing your story ❤️
@Loralu192
@Loralu192 2 жыл бұрын
You are the ONLY voice that hits the nail on the head for me. You were there, so was I. You came out the other side. You're helping me get there too. Therapists, while compassionate, never lived it, just studied it (it's pretty easy to tell). Hence why they couldn't spot the signs in you back then, it wasn't in the textbook yet. Thank you for encouraging us to take ownership of our healing. No one around me understands that I CAN do this myself. Sometimes flailing around looking for answers lands you right in the lap of exactly what you need.
@felicityseleneford
@felicityseleneford 6 ай бұрын
I really had the luck of my first therapist being well versed in these new theories. She was wonderful. I genuinely believe the stunt in my emotional growth over the last few years was largley in part of loosing her when I had to move.
@ArtAffects
@ArtAffects 2 жыл бұрын
You rock!!! I have been following you for some time now and I've learned so much listening to your videos. I've realized so much about myself and how to be in charge of my own healing through your videos and others like you. I don't care if you have a degree or not. You've been there, and that's the difference. Thank you, and please keep sharing and growing!
@MayanPrincess3
@MayanPrincess3 2 жыл бұрын
I can relate. I also saw 11 different therapists. And earlier this year I went through compounded trauma and was in a full blown trauma response. Everyone kept saying I needed therapy but with COVID I couldn’t find anyone for months. I finally started to read the CPTSD book you suggested and boom I had massive realizations, understood my emotional flashbacks and I was able to finally feel a sense of stability. One I finally found a therapist it just felt like unhelpful venting and they didn’t even know where to start to help me. I’ve worked in the psychiatric field before this for over 15 years so I have the knowledge and skills to know when I have a capable therapist or not. Sadly most therapists think they are just there to listen to ranting rather than offer any real structure. I also found myself downplaying things bc It felt like they didn’t know what to do with it all and that’s not the point. 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️ As a holistic healer and spiritual guide I have helped many people through horrible traumas and PTSD without having them tell me their entire story too. We as a nation need to address the fact that therapy in the traditional sense is outdated and schools need to understand that people are not just case studies or statistics. Everyone heals differently. And there needs to be new structures to help in ways that aren’t just re-triggering people’s trauma.
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience! -Cara@TeamFairy
@cotter9751
@cotter9751 2 жыл бұрын
This was amazing. And my experience with your program has been much more successful than any course of therapy I've tried before. I love being part of your community, and I can see the healing happening! I'm 18 months in and my life is entirely different - much happier, must more autonomy. Thank you.
@nl8410
@nl8410 2 жыл бұрын
I've been trying your writing technique and it worked for me, and my sister. I'm recommending it to my friends, even my teenage nephew, whenever he had a nightmare. Thanks for being an excelent example of living a life with purpose.
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
That's great! -Cara@TeamFairy
@QueenCaptainDiva
@QueenCaptainDiva 2 жыл бұрын
It’s been the same for me as well. What first helped me was finding wonderful people such as you Anna, providing information that helped me realize and lift the fog on what’s actually happening with me - properly diagnose this as CPSTD rather than the whole list of disorders I’ve been given. Thank you for everything you’re doing to help people 🙏🏻 This also encouraged me to take charge of my own healing. Techniques and practices that help me get out of the mind and into the body are working wonders. And a major thing (perhaps the most) has been guided plant medicine workshops (such as Ayahuasca) which have allowed me to process and heal. I’m finally finding self love for the first time in my life.
@bluecat2741
@bluecat2741 2 жыл бұрын
I also made nearly no progress while working with my therapist. I doesn't help me to talk about my feelings and why I feel this or that way. It's like a discussion, why my cake recipes never work - interesting, but I need solutions and practical advice how to fix things. Your videos helped me immensely to gain more insight and - the most important thing - to change my strategy/ behavior. Thank you so much! ❤️
@CrappyChildhoodFairy
@CrappyChildhoodFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing, love the cake metaphor :) -Cara@TeamFairy
@jennk2199
@jennk2199 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad that this video was suggested to me! I really am! This is EXACTLY what I went through with talk therapy...."what is wrong with me?" ! Thank you for sharing, I mean it! I feel so vaildated! As I was coming out of therapy, I was entering my spiritual journey, and I have found so much inner healing in that! I have learned so much more outside of therapy than I ever did inside and am the better for it! I give God the glory because I know that my healing comes from Him
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