Therapy & Theology | Why No One Wins When a Woman Is Devalued

Welcome to a new series of Therapy & Theology: "Let's Stop Avoiding This Conversation: 6 Topics Women Have Big Questions About."
Join Lysa TerKeurst; her licensed professional counselor, Jim Cress; and Proverbs 31 Ministries' Director of Theological Research, Dr. Joel Muddamalle, for a conversation about therapy and theology.
In Episode 1, we focus on why it doesn't help anyone for a woman to be devalued.
Related Resources:
Want more wisdom as you navigate hard relationship dynamics? Find practical next steps, powerful scriptures and timely guidance on how to set realistic, healthy boundaries in Lysa TerKeurst's new book, Good Boundaries and Goodbyes. In the pages of this book, Lysa's personal counselor, Jim Cress, also provides therapeutic insight surrounding the topic of boundaries, helping you confidently apply what you read. [Order here.] www.p31bookstore.com/collecti...
Ready to take a personal next step in finding a Christian counselor? The American Association of Christian Counselors is a great place to find the right fit for you and your circumstances.
Has the "Therapy & Theology" podcast helped you personally gain a fresh, biblical perspective for what you’re facing? Tell us about it by commenting below.
Want to dig deeper? Dr. Joel Muddamalle put together additional biblical context for this episode. proverbs31.org/read/resource-...
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[@Dalcar.avotreestudio]

Don't get married until you see your future spouse actually live in accordance with what they say. They must actually do the things they talk about. See it with your own eyes, and don't trust your feelings. DO NOT take them on their word, some people can be so charming and will convince you. And when you see their true character, it's too late.

[@workinprogress1211]

Amen. And don't ignore the red flags which was my mistake.

[@conniedavis207]

Give yourself a lot of time to know person in all situations….most important… bad times or hard situations …. Agree….do not ignore red flags

[@sharonmagdalenebooysen2874]

Very helpful information 🙂

[@Hawaiiansky11]

Before I got married, I thought the whole adage of "people change after marriage" was a load of bunk. But he was a totally different person behind closed doors than he was publicly. He was Mr. Happy-Go-Lucky, water-off-a-duck's back, never angry, never mean person --in public. Behind closed doors, he was seething with anger and expressed it passively-aggressively, pretty much nonstop. So you don't always know before you marry that they are a problem. That said, there probably were red flags that I could not recognize...having been raised in an abusive home by a narcissistic mother, made my red flag detector completely out of whack.

[@andreamanning5866]

My narcissist husband kept the good guy act up for years before I married him. And a few years after. Until after I had our son. It's next level acting!

[@anneswatzell5115]

As a Christian woman whom left a destructive marriage 6 years ago.. I am finally really getting healthy mentally as I was so confused, damaged .. I have come so far and this podcast is so validating to me.. thank you for this work you are doing!!!!!!

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

We're glad this episode helped you, Anne! Our team created a free resource that complements this episode, if you'd like to dig deeper. Download here --> proverbs31.org/read/resource-library/resources/2022/10/17/i-still-have-questions-about-the-value-of-women?YT&THPOD

[@lindabentley6351]

Praise God!

[@Brianna13Rose]

I am 61 years old and I have experienced mental abuse as child from my Mom😢I see how my lack of self-worth has impacted my children (adult children now)🥺💔💜🙏 I was also married to a man who mentally abused me. However, I am finally learning to set boundaries in my relationships🥰💜🙏 I am so grateful God has brought me to this point in my life! There is pressures in this world to be in a relationship….however I know God brought me to this point in my life so I can seek Him wholeheartedly 🥰💜🙏 I can finally have confidence in the person God created me to be🤗🥰💜🙏 I have been called crazy and have been told “ I gone to far for my religion”. I am humbled by these remarks. If I am crazy about anything let it be Jesus🤗🥰💜🙏 If I remain single I am completely at peace because I live to bring honor to Jesus 🥰💜🙏

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

We're praying for you, friend!

[@Laura-dh5mk]

I can relate

[@M54JC]

Being educated on those Hebrew words makes all the difference! Joel, thank you for sharing because unfortunately, some in leadership positions have taught that women are below men rather fighting valiantly aside men! God help us! God please intervene.

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for watching, friend! Our team created a free resource that complements this episode, if you'd like to dig deeper. Download here --> proverbs31.org/read/resource-library/resources/2022/10/17/i-still-have-questions-about-the-value-of-women?YT&THPOD

[@madeleinejeremy434]

So wonderful to hear men of God speak beauty, truth and life to women. So needed .Thank you aĺl ♥ 🙏

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for watching, Madeline!

[@colleenq7]

It’s so life-changing when you realize women are created to show an aspect of who God is. My mother-in-law taught me this 💗🙏

[@estheriacovou5455]

Amazing mother in law. Mine was awful and harmful.

[@framboise595]

@colleenq7 Women were created for men and because of men. Not to show an aspect of who God is. The Bible never says that at all. God made the woman for the man , she is the glory of MAN but man is the glory of GOD. It is men who mirror God's image on this earth. Created to be husbands and fathers just like God is both.

[@onelife7247]

I am not a Christian but intuitively find your discussion very uplifting. Brings back cherished memories of theology classes in prep school. I think anything that brings people spiritual/inner peace is a step in the right direction. 😊✌🏽

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thanks for watching, friend!

[@fortnitegod2236]

I agree. I hope and pray that you find Jesus as your lord through watching/listening to the podcast 🙏

[@gaylynnbrackin8163]

Lysa, you bring the EXPERIENCE! You can truly empathize! 🙏❤️

[@newlinsa]

Thank you for this message. I am really looking forward to next week's because I have been married for 19 years and most of them have been filled with some physical, but mostly emotional/verbal abuse. It can be really hard to try and figure out how God feels about this, and not enough pastor's/teachers are teaching about it. I love how Lysa pointed out that the majority of us aren't seeking out a divorce, because that can kind of be the connotation around this subject. I have stayed for 19 years DESPERATELY trying to save our marriage, but to the detriment of myself. I no longer have any confidence or self-worth and I have been asking God for wisdom as I try to navigate this journey and figure out whether or not I should stay or leave. This definitely isn't something I had planned for my life, and it for sure wasn't taking the easy way out. This last 19 years have stolen a piece of me that I can never get back, but I'm praying that there's hope for the next 19 years. When I got married at 18, I was happy and had so much life in me... life that has slowly been drained with every heart-shattering put down. There HAS to be something more that God is calling me to because I can't fathom living the rest of my life in this kind of heartache and pain.

[@debbiepinson1133]

Please leave. Before you can’t heal. It doesn’t get better. Worse with age. Save your self before trauma bonded. Get real help. Womens shelters get it.

[@debbiepinson1133]

Emotional abuse is worse than physical. It gives you complex ptsd. OTRS ongoing traumatic relationship syndrome. Leads to depression. Panic. Etc. as you get older it affects more and more. There is no reason to tolerate it. And often escalates into more physical abuse over time. Find help. The church says stay. Pray. It gaslights abuse so often. Find support. Save your self. Please.

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for sharing your story with us, Summer, so we can be praying for you. While we can't speak to the unique circumstances of everyone's specific situation, our website includes a free resource library where we've categorized our topical and study resources for quick access, based on what you may be facing today. Check it out here --> proverbs31.org/read/resource-library/trials

[@newlinsa]

@@OfficialProverbs31Ministries Please...please pray for me. I desperately want God to change my husband's heart; and have stayed because I don't want to do life without him. But I am so broken right now. I have no more strength. Even though I know God loves me and has a plan for my life, I think so little of myself that I don't even bother trying to walk in my calling. I have dealing with major depression and anxiety and many health issues just from the stress. I just need help.

[@salliewoodward497]

Summer- I just left after 21 years. You have to leave but understand how hard that decision is to get to. There IS something more God is calling you to do and it is not in this marriage.

[@lindabentley6351]

Such a powerful message! I divorced a narcissist 16 months ago and your ministry has helped me heal!!

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for sharing your story with us, Linda. Our team created a free resource that complements this episode, if you'd like to dig deeper. Download here --> proverbs31.org/read/resource-library/resources/2022/10/17/i-still-have-questions-about-the-value-of-women?YT&THPOD

[@tinabrooks4397]

My husband/minister/narc has used pieces of scripture as a weapon to coerce/manipulate and shame me to stay in this very destructive marriage. Shame on him.

[@Z28videogates]

@@tinabrooks4397 I've heard it is estimated that around 70% of all pastors or ministers fall into the spectrum of NPD. If you think about it, it makes sense. Is it their need to "serve the lord" or is it there need to be the leader, praised, looked at in high regard etc.? One dead giveaway to this is their blatent hypocrisy. Rules don't apply to them. They can do things 10x worse and it will be divided by 10. If you do something 1x and it will be amplified 10x (I call this the "Divide by 10, multiply 10 rule").

[@neff02]

@@tinabrooks4397 Do you have Biblical grounds for divorce? If you do, you are free to exercise the liberty to divorce if not unfortunately it is for better for worse till death do us apart. We all have a choice in who we choose to commit to in our life when we take those wedding vows to God and spouse. If we have chosen wrong it's our bed to lay in,following and trusting God to provide what we need in spite of the bad choice we freely made.

[@danielgradussov647]

The old school era of christian men in Australia need this teaching! Unfortunately alot of rigit stubborn submit submit teaching in the regional churches Australia wide. Jesus we need this liberating teaching for men to grasp the gift you have given us in our lives. I really laughed when Lysa said "i really love doing laundry i really do" 😂😂 such a serious topic and then such a light and joyous comment of laundry love it, Lysa i love doing laundry too funny enough

[@shelleyd9910]

Yes! Thank you LYSA. “If we are violating Gods Word in order to defend Gods Word we are not really honouring Gods Word as it was intended.” So many stupid Christians who just get patronising or judgemental instead of praying in silence before they answer you, even Pastors.

[@bevfitzsimmonds3382]

I attended a Christian seminar years ago, about separation and divorce recovery, and the only thing l remember of a very good seminar, is the introductory lines of the first speaker..."So many of you have come out of a marriage where you have been fighting for years to make your marriage work, and it has still disintegrated. I am here to tell you, that it takes two to make a marriage work.... you did your best...but without both people in the relationship working to make a marriage good, no marriage can survive. You know you have done everything you could, so donot carry guilt. Come away and heal." That was 25 years ago. God has done wonderful healing in me, and corrected my view of my worth, and l now know better who it is healthy for me to be with, and how to make good boundaries in my relationships...for happiness and wholeness. Hope this is helpful for someone. ❤🙂

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for sharing that, Bev! So good!

[@Dalcar.avotreestudio]

Yes, this is helpful. Thank you.

[@bevfitzsimmonds3382]

@@Dalcar.avotreestudio l am so glad. God bless. ✝️🦋

[@kathleenthompson9566]

Lysa, when you spoke of people saying hurtful things because they didn’t want to catch “divorce fever”, I thought of my own situation when my husband suddenly died. I was 47, and he was 54. People said the strangest things to me, or worse, avoided me. Partly because they didn’t know what to say, and I think it was also because my husband’s death had shattered their illusion that God blesses the faithful with a long, happy life. That uncertainty and seeming randomness upset them, and they couldn’t face it. I think that’s part of what you and others have experienced too. I think it’s less about theology and more about fear.

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for sharing part of your story with us, Kathleen.

[@lovingmywayhome2213]

I agree with you and this happens to those who have adult children who estranged after it was a close family before the world changed them.

[@Hawaiiansky11]

Sometimes, the Lord takes people out of this world as an act of mercy. That may be why we say, "Only the good die young." The 'good' are often the most attacked and abused, so life tends to feel painful at all turns.

[@forgivemore4488]

Going thru my divorce from a narcissist porn addicted husband, with sexual behavior disorder, after only 4 years of marriage. He's been.this way for 40 yrs. Thank you for this ministry.

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for sharing your story with us, friend.

[@hofmannx5]

No one wins when either gender is devalued. Both persons struggle and question their identity and self worth. Both feeling less than and unworthy. Both need to know they are loved and ate never alone with Him. Of course women often carry the burden of life and face a different challenge. Thank you for the honest and informative discussion this evening. ❤

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for watching, Susan!

[@rebeccahayhurst442]

Such a powerful and encouraging conversation about women. Thank you so much for the theological and therapy aspects and talking about wholeness is when both of these areas are doing well together. I’m so glad that this podcast is out there!

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for watching, Rebecca! Our team created a free resource that complements this episode, if you'd like to dig deeper. Download here --> proverbs31.org/read/resource-library/resources/2022/10/17/i-still-have-questions-about-the-value-of-women?YT&THPOD

[@susiemccoy7]

Oh my goodness. This series is SO RICH!!! Joel, I'm so enjoying learning these Hebrews words. Oh my! Thank you all 3 for what you bring to the table. GOD BLESS YOU! keep the videos coming.

[@louiseyoung1231]

LOVE therapy and Theology 💜 Fyi... Jim & Joels mics were quieter than Lysa's.

[@M54JC]

That did make it sound like she was louder. Hope they can fix that slight bug.

[@Psalm_27.4]

I love this title. It’s so true. Glad that people are saying so. Will listen later, as I have to go!

[@janetcrome5605]

Thank you. This is all so very true. Sadly, the impact it’s had on women and marriages. Thank you for your honesty. Eight years ago, I could barely find any information on this topic. This is so needed. Thank you for not only sharing the therapy side but the theology to back it up. Even churches don’t often understand this, so women aren’t often able to get help there either.

[@Shepherd7100]

Love this content, thank you sooo much.

[@profesorajacomet]

You bless me so much!❤❤

[@Blue77Blue]

Love that he did

[@susanmorin9597]

Excellent, helpful, affirming. Thank you!

[@lifestylehomestead]

What an incredible podcast

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thanks for watching!

[@reneedwards1082]

Oh wow!!! I'm so amazed that God brought me to your channel...I have gone through verbal emotional abuse for 24yrs from a narsistic enmenshed husband who is not a believer. It has been a challenge cause he is actually a good man and I thought that by staying, I was going to add to his and my sons God's sanctuary, that maybe they would except and receive the love of Christ but I have been mentally emotionally and physically annihilated. He controll everything of mine which I've slowly given up. The only thing he cannot take away from me, is my love for my Lord. Please pray God gives me clear wisdom in how to move forwards, with this man where I am allowing him to sin as he loses his temper with me or do I leave?

[@donnanc4]

@@vell5052 Please reach out to Lysa privately. You need someone to pray with you. I Please ask God for wisdom! I will be praying for you. Please listen to all of this series❤️🙏

[@donnanc4]

@@vell5052 ❤❤❤

[@debbiepinson1133]

Leave. Please leave. Only gets worse with age. Find support. Make a life. Save yourself. Please. Bible says don’t be jokes to an u believer. Abuse is not to be tolerated. God does not mean for you to be demolished. Please.

[@debbiepinson1133]

Document. Get a women’s shelter to do an intake. Get a recommended attorney. Fight for alimony. You deserve it. Please.

[@reneedwards1082]

@@debbiepinson1133 im so pussled. We are all suppose to go away for christmas, i am not phisically mentally strong to srand on my iwn yet and he controlls my finance, i am forced to except his mum back into my house after she autobiographed private "mental" matters of me in her book, which she wont retract, or appologise for, we are all, my whole family and theirs going to Cape town in December and if i stay i am litrally staying away from my own family. I feel so anniahilated and im phisically not well at the moment. No one can see cause im a good actress. I am so broken at tge moment that i dont even have the energy to work or clean my house or put flowers in a vase, im very hpuse proud and everything around me is just collapsing while my husband gets stronger and runs his bussiness from home with all these woman around him in his famiky and bissiness and support. Please pray God gives me a miracle of strength and wisdom please

[@kaywisseh]

I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. Please do more on this topic. It’s desperately needed.

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for watching, friend! Be sure to subscribe to the Proverbs 31 Ministries channel so you are notified when we release new videos.

[@judiwhitesdad8202]

Love love love this

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for watching, friend.

[@stephaniecannon410]

Such a heartfelt Truth and reality 🌹

[@kma7567]

This is such an important conversation. Thank you for being brave and doing good.

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for watching, friend! Our team created a free resource that complements this episode, if you'd like to dig deeper. Download here --> proverbs31.org/read/resource-library/resources/2022/10/17/i-still-have-questions-about-the-value-of-women?YT&THPOD

[@dw1310]

Powerful

[@smileytheresa63]

I'm gracious for all of you for your conversation 💞

[@mishahudson873]

Love this channel, podcast, etc…THANK YOU!

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thanks for watching!

[@shinrin-yoku3877]

That's so true, being informed doesn't necessarily mean everything goes away/gets better

[@lauritrotter2320]

Thank you for making this valuable teaching and truth available to everyone who desires to listen and learn. I continue to receive abundant truth from T&T and it is transformational in my life.❤

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

We're glad this teaching helped you, Lauri!

[@g.siporin4000]

Can’t wait for the 2nd part to this.

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

5 more episodes will release in the coming weeks! Stay tuned!

[@teds3rdof6]

Soooo many things this is bringing together for me in my thoughts!

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thanks for watching, Kelly!

[@carriebarba6980]

Thank you to each one of you. I appreciate your authenticity. I have listened to most of these podcasts. They have been so therapeutic for me on my journey. God bless!!!

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thanks for watching, Carrie!

[@robinwest9226]

Thank you Lysa for these Therapy and Theology video's. they are so helpful and full of wisdom and thank you for your transparency . God bless you.

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for watching, Robin!

[@prov35-63]

Lysa you look beautiful both inside and out!

[@beadwired]

Thank you!! ❤️‍🔥🙏

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for watching, friend!

[@beadwired]

I so appreciate your ministry. It’s hard to believe my husband likes to use Proverbs 31 against me… As if I’m not good enough! #LordHaveMercy

[@Emily-sy9ht]

Lysa, Jim, and Joel: I'm SO EXCITED about this new subject of Therapy and Theology!!!! What an incredible topic to unpack for us, and it just feels like perfect timing. I LOVE this podcast generally and have recommended it to friends and family. May God bless you in your ministry. Can't wait for all the episodes in this series. THANK YOU!

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for watching, Emily! Be sure you're subscribed to the Proverbs 31 Ministries KZbin channel so you're notified when new episodes release.

[@acpeters68]

@@OfficialProverbs31Ministries love K😊lol😮😊😊

[@sphumelelemkhize9650]

I am so happy this show is back. Praise God. I love it so much. I am a Christian living with a mental disorder. So I really appreciate the information given in this show.

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

We're glad this series has been helpful to you, friend! Thank you for watching.

[@worship_on_ice1610]

Wow... very interesting. "Side" of man... not only "rib" ... completing the man! Together man and woman become the image of god together, "reflection of royalty". A "Helper" plays this crucial stabilizing role...

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thanks for sharing your takeaways, friend!

[@darlenerego4891]

This has been excellent to listen to. It helps me accept myself the way I am! Thank you!!!!

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thanks for watching!

[@jmcconne2003]

Wow! Idk if God guided me here, but I’ve been praying. This is exactly what I’m going through.

[@debbiepinson1133]

A lot of men win just fine. Doesn’t affect their life at all. They move on with no remorse.

[@Z28videogates]

Will there be an equivalent episode for men? "Why no one wins when a man is devalued"?

[@meredithholmes1521]

Lisa T. and Crew, this an amazing subject and podcast. Ms Lisa- you look so amazingly beautiful

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thanks for watching, Meredith!

[@nickihorvath7464]

Wow, awesome discussion today, guys! Thank you for this! Saving so I can come back to it as needed.

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for watching, Nicki!

[@stephm5877]

Thank you for speaking for the weak and vulnerable. I've begun to believe that I have to give up a calling in ministry because I married an abusive person. I feel, now that the separation is coming soon, that I have ruined my testimony, but I also can't take the abuse or live a lie. It is very defeating and makes me feel worthless. All I want to do is spread the gospel and be a voice for the voiceless. I fight for abuse victims and the anti-divorce teaching and it is very lonely and isolating. Another thought - I think it's sad also that the only role in the church assumed for women is homemaker since not everyone will be married with kids. I have a child, but it breaks my heart that single women are not utilized in ministry more, but devalued, when our role in this life is to spread the gospel, not to be married.

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for sharing part of your story with us, Steph. We're praying for you right now!

[@Psalm_27.4]

@Steph M I don’t think getting a separation is sinful. I think it will FURTHER reveal your husband’s heart toward you. God usually shows women what’s going on. While separated, if your husband wakes up and comes to himself, and agrees to go to counseling for his abuse, and really starts to treat you right, FOR REAL, then you know he is serious. If the separation makes him think he can have an affair, and he goes out and has one, then you know your situation, and will have a biblical reason for a divorce. Some men are abusive, but strangely too passive to leave their victim. Getting a LEGAL separation, is very helpful to the abused person. I think filing for a separation gives the victim space to begin to heal, without getting divorced before they should. It also causes the other person to play their true hand, so that the victim has a clearer picture of how to move forward. All Grace to you, in all ways!

[@melnelly5918]

And Christians attitudes towards mental health. It is poorly understood and therefore judgment around believing lies is people's response and belief and then shame comes. I'm learning so much from this channel.

[@Blue77Blue]

Aware operative!!

[@bethprather9241]

I'm praying and in tears. I too was a victim of emotional abuse and God blessed me with an awesome husband. But I didn't know that it was called that until I read a Danielle Steel book in 2000. It hurts still. But just yesterday when I realized another pastor respected for many years didn't believe a women was abused for 2o years. He even made her leave church for divorcing an abuser. He is in Jail for 21 years now. So satan is now reminding me, and yes I am a sinner. But one time my pastor at the time told me when I was blamed for my x in jail by my parents and other Christians. My preacher told me, " You are just good at that. Take it all on. " Now 25 years later all the SBC stuff and God is on the thrown. But I cried over too many younger women replying how hurt they were and another preacher that are called by God allowed that man to stay in the church and made the women leave. We are called as women to help this next generation.I need calming now. But we must ..

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for watching, Beth, and for sharing some of your story with us. If you feel led to, a simple way you can help others today is by sharing this video.

[@ellenvelichko7442]

Thank you so much, for your knowledge and truth! I wish this was taught in churches!

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for watching, Ellen

[@azsass68]

My family origin: I was not wanted, I was supposed to be a boy- it was a joke but not really. From age 7-teens I was ungrateful, inconsiderate, selfish & disrespectful. Still fighting these words @ 54, I gained some independence. Now in a marriage (15 yrs) - I am back to being dependent- my value in this blended family is not recognized. I am silenced, if I speak there is conflict & it is my fault

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Praying for you right now, Sandy.

[@louiseyoung1231]

Love you guys! You're brilliant. Joel, are you saying the woman is a load bearer? We do usually bear the majority of the load in marriage and family.

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Hi friend! There is a free resource you can download to learn more about this topic here --> proverbs31.org/read/resource-library/resources/2022/10/17/i-still-have-questions-about-the-value-of-women?YT&THPOD

[@mistysmith7212]

Yes my husband is an ex body builder and I’m 5’1 and 150 lbs when we got together I was about 125 lbs and now in 49 and in pre menopause and I still wear smalls and soze 4 but yet he tells me I’m a fat ass all the time it’s hard because my self esteem is gone and my self worth and he has told me I have cellulite on my legs etc and even if he does not say it I know he thinks it and he’s always looking on google pics of women that come across google feed like Jane die in little red bikini and of course they r hot women but they r also young and or air brushed or filtered etc . I guess he thinks I’m ugly and fat and that’s y he like at those women and I’d say not to toot my own horn but at 49 years old I still look pretty good I think

[@liv2livwell]

This has been very good. Thank you so much for the Therapy and Theology. I learned years ago from my own study that when God brought the curses upon Adam and Eve, God gave the man authority to rule over the woman. I believe at that moment and forward that men in their sinful nature defined and determined women's value and role in society. They were treated as property. Fast forward, Jesus comes and sets mankind free from sin and from the roles defined under the era of the Curse. When we read through the Gospels, we see Jesus, redefine the value of women. Not only the Samaritan women, but Jesus chose Mary to go and proclaim the good news that He had risen to the disciples. He could have chosen anyone; He chose her. I love what Galatians 3:23-29 says, the Law being our guardian until Christ, and now in Christ, there is neither Jew nor gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

[@sabrinagonzales4456]

God created Adam and Lilith together but Adam wanted to control her. So she escaped to become independent. Then he created Eve.

[@edermarianne3137]

I love this lesson , what i miss is the point when we speak about the original language the true name of the Father and the Son from the besutiful hebrew language. Because His Name has a specific meaning . Salvation is his Name. YAHUAH Yahusha.

[@sandramalex]

Lysa’s audio was too hot. :) This is redefining the value of women in our society! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for watching, friend.

[@tional5266]

Could rib indicate “ribosome “ ?

[@pamh7758]

Reflections of royalty (:

[@kristenmarie9248]

15:50

[@sh6460]

It's been very difficult. The stories that my dad and ex tell themselves and others are crazy.

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

We're praying for you right now, friend.

[@sh6460]

@@OfficialProverbs31Ministries thank you, God bless.

[@stephaniethompson7995]

nice that Lysa has so much support and counsel.. but most of us women do not get this support. I think there is a spirit of narcissism greatly right now

[@stephaniethompson7995]

Have they filmed episode 2 yet??

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Hi Stephanie! Episode 2 can be found here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3zagZtpmMiqnKc

[@christianspencer2175]

I have a question: Where do you get the idea the men were off to war? The chapter doesn't say anything about that. So the reference would be helpful for others to "read rightly" as you suggest. The chapter also makes mention of her husband several times sitting with the elders and rising to praise her..like.... he's there seeing it for himself. I think there may be a bit of reading into scripture here vs. letting scripture explain how a woman is to be a good helper, and partner. Which is the whole reason we were created. 🤔 I think that there is some great stuff here but I'm hesitant to believe this is talking about a "valiant warrior woman".

[@lucillekluivert343]

HELPER / HELP MATE ITS 2 WHOLE PEOPLE BECOME ONE TO BE A STRONG TEAM TOGETHER AND DO EVERYTHING TOGETHER THAT MEANS NOT ONLY THE WOMEN SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS BUT BOTH PEOPLE ( PARENTS ) ITS A WE NOT A ME AND YOU ITS WE

[@lucillekluivert343]

WOW I LOVE THIS AND I HOPE THE CHURCH WILL GET TO HEAR THIS BECAUSE THEY DONT UNDERSTAND IT AND TELLING WOMEN TO STAY IN THEIR MARRIAGE WHILE THEIR IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN THE MARRIAGE ( HIGHEST LEVEL OF ABUSE ) ANGEL IN THE CHURCH BUT DEVIL AT HOME AM GLAD PEOPLE SPEAK OPENLY ABOUT THESE THINGS AND IT GOES BOTH WAYS MALE AND FEMALE ABUSE THEIR PARTNERS IN THE RELATIONSHIPS AND NOW IS THE TIME TO BREAK THE CHAINS

[@kcreagan9799]

Amen!!!

[@lisastephens9703]

Rib...means Curved Bone

[@samanthanyongani]

Devaluing a woman or man is like Devaluing what God created. We are his creation. Telling women to remain silent sometime comes from a place of weakness. Being unable to address the predator so people control the woman.

[@warcraftaddict117]

And talking about the heart and nature, Jesus rebuked men seeking to silence other men as well. The pharisees were trying to tell Jesus to get his disciples and his followers to shut up and Jesus tells them if they stayed silent the rocks would cry out.

[@kendallparker3311]

Question: At 40:00… after the statement recounting Jesus asking the woman, “Do you believe me?” And the woman replying “Yes…I believe” (You are the Savior, Son of God), I’m confused why Criss interjects “…because of ole Peter, the heir of Christ”). I am not Biblically illiterate. Please explain what Criss was implying. Thank you.

[@kendallparker3311]

Excuse me, that should be Cress.

[@lailas.3205]

Hi! Cress actually said, "...Thou art the Christ..." and he was quoting Peter in Matthew 16:16. Jesus asked his disciples who people were saying that He was. Then he asked his disciples, "Who do you say that I am." Peter declared Jesus to be the Christ: Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” Cress is highlighting a link in scripture where both Martha and Peter rightly declared Jesus to be the Christ, even though many people weren't sure what to make of him. Jesus said that the Holy Spirit revealed this to Peter. No doubt, Holy Spirit revealed it to Martha, too. I think the idea is that it further shows the value God (Jesus) placed and places on women, to give Martha a major revelation about who Jesus is, just as He gave the revelation to Peter, Jesus' "right-hand man."

[@MariaRivera-wl6bo]

Jesus said to Mary Magdalene, go and sin no more; he did not say go hang out with all those pharasees that wanted to stone you when they were equally as guilty as you. Also, he didn't say go hang out and befriend with those that don't refrain from condemning you. If someone rehabilitates from being an alcoholic that doesn't necessarily qualify them to be able to go by a bar or go into a bar without being tempted to drink. God gives us supernatural power through the holy spirit, but since he has created each one of us individually, he knows whatever person's threshold is in every category. We might use expressions that are not correct, try to use a language that is not correct, joke and even maybe flirt; and it is probably all sin, that we need to allow the holy spirit to further do a deeper work in our subconscious but he who is without sin in any category, not just sexual sin, but in any category, throw the first stone. I don't care if you drink, do drugs, embezzle, lie, abuse of any category, pride in your image, or what sin you committ, it is a sin just like a sexual sin. So when you are perfect like Enoch, Elijah, etc., Then come and throw the stone at me. I am not ready to hav a friendship with anyone until I am ready. People don't want anyone disrespecting their boundaries, but they feel entitled to disrespect anyone else's boundaries when ever they feel like. That is entitlement narcissism; I don't care how you try to camoflouge it.

[@barbarajones7904]

I’ve been single for 27 years and have become comfortable being alone. I’m lonely at times

[@OfficialProverbs31Ministries]

Thank you for watching, Barbara! Praying that God shows up in a tangible, personal way for you today to remind you that you're not alone.

[@barbarajones7904]

@@OfficialProverbs31Ministries I’m sorry I think I didn’t explain very well. What I meant was I’m single not that I’m alone from God. I attended Bible college and talk with God daily.

[@athena5222]

This day in age, it’s best to stay single.

[@Sarayourthrivingfamily]

Would really like to look at “side” more closely. I’ve heard it explained that possibly mankind was created first, then at this point man and woman were created. Eve days later that God told them (her included) about not eating of the tree - when only the Adam (mankind) would have been present. This would be such an bigger argument for equal image of God. Not woman being subservient.

[@Catmom2023Sciencenerd]

See, "Myrrh Bearing Women"... (Orthodox Church....) For Women of Valor Research.... Peace be with you.

[@daniellatersteeg4897]

divide between people .... if you do not agree what media says, your a bad human. even in family. Yhis hurts a lot !!

[@deborahg3093]

Does a woman have intrinsic self-worth? I've seen idiots think we don't, but I'm not confused. I'm valued by God, and therefore, I value myself.

[@hereim5648]

America has more toxicity in the marriages bc of loneliness. People are distance and isolated than other parts of the world. Financial prosperity is a blessing but that can lead a nation in general to feel entitled. The conveniences people enjoy outside of homes in USA, the same mentality of conveniences = perfection they're looking for in marriages too. Entitled, easily offended, making small things bigger. When there is very little closeness in the culture, mental crisis and toxicity in the marriages are unavoidable.

[@gloriatemael2510]

🎉well way coming bock to realsnship ?

[@Standownevil]

RIB RNA

[@emilysnyder4857]

Jesus died for his bride the church. Any believer who devalues women regularly must not think much of His sacrifice or understand the Grace they have been given.

[@Blue77Blue]

Why would u want to?…

[@lucillekluivert343]

AS YOU SPEAK LISTEN TO YOUR OWN WORD AND YOUR OWN VOICE WHICH IS SAYING WE ARE MADE IN THE IMMAGE OF GOD NOT ONLY THE MEN BUT MEN AND WOMEN ARE MADE IN GODS IMMAGE ❤❤🙏

[@cathyjennings5580]

Females are Noble in Jesus mind

[@aliciagordon7295]

Dang I wish you could make a video of just the portion of the origin of the words describing a woman, help mate etc. my husband wouldn’t listen to the whole thing! My husband doesn’t read the word anymore, barely goes to church, no strong Godly men in his life and no accountability. His view of a woman’s position in marriage, family and society are unbiblicalZ

[@cathyjennings5580]

Too many females are devalued, undermined. Dishonored. Disrespected. Why?

[@MariaRivera-wl6bo]

The person who saids their faith is founded only upon the Rick, should not look at my past, or any language sin that I committ to determine if Christians are hypocrite or not. The truth of the matter is all of Jesus disciples were hypocrites until they were converted after Jesus death and pentecost. The one that never repented was Judas because of his love of money, power, entitlement, always looking down at the poor, and he was not happy b cause Jesus didn't give him what he wanted which was for Jesus to over throw the Roman Empire, Establish a Jewish empire full of wealth, greed, and power but Jesus showed him that the eternal kingdom was not of this world, or consisted of the things that this world consisted of. People can judge you all day long if they want; only God knows their list of sins, only God read their past sins and heart. That is none of my business and neither do I care to know them. I am not God. Everyone should be watching their own, and not some one else. Whatever happened to mind your own business and focus on your personal growth.

[@thomasparrish429]

Husbands love your wife's

[@chillinpeace3322]

And everyone loses when a woman is over-valued!

[@debbiepinson1133]

That’s not a very common occurrence. Maybe we deserve any value we can be given because most women are being demeaned.

[@chillinpeace3322]

@@debbiepinson1133 Women are over valued in the work place, education, legal system, public funding, personal relationships, politics, and ship wreaks!!! In 2022, any women claiming other wise is denying her privileges and clinging to unearned victim status. The lie women tell is over!

[@AllaKovch]

Thank you so much for your podcasts! I did a lot of this research myself due to my own need, but so glad to see women with large platforms speak these truths. 🙏