There was NO first human

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[@ramsey627]

my grandfather 185 million generations ago had to swim across a sea to go to school

[@asheep7797]

Aren't schools underwater?

[@Wordsmith00]

Didn't he swim in a school ?

[@PoisonStore]

Its a school of fish.

[@kurtsnyder4752]

And had to swim against the current both ways

[@mikebar42]

Uphill both ways!!!

[@johnwbuxton]

I like to equate it to the colour spectrum. We all know that green is green and blue is blue, but there is no one wavelength where it stops being green and starts being blue.

[@777Skeptic]

Or the question "Is Friday a weekend?" The closer you get to 11:59PM, the more the answer is "yes," but it's fuzzy between 12:00AM and 11:59PM.

[@cfgp]

or languages. i speak portuguese, so do my parents, and so will my kids. but many generations ago, everyone spoke latin. we can distinguish portuguese from latin, but there were no latin-speaking parents who had portuguese-speaking kids.

[@elmojackson6621]

The problem is that we communicate using words, and we don't want to overcomplicate our conversations. So, some degree of simplification is necessary in order to be able to use words at all, leading to confusion in the mind of some people.

[@mcasur]

@@cfgp Pois é

[@CHMichael]

It's called cyan

[@pedroneves5864]

I like to explain this by comparing it to how we age. When we compare ourselves one day to the next, or one week to the next, we see no difference. But if we compare ourselves when we were 10 to when we were 20 or 40, we will see the difference

[@znation1491]

Hmmm, and you are still the same person. Just drastically changed

[@spaghetae5679]

I like this thought

[@danzoom]

​@@znation1491 technically, no. The only reason why we are the same, is because we think so. Chemically and biologically, a 2 yo, 20 yo and 60 yo are different organisms and their bodies even work differently.

[@jeffreyjohnson7359]

So when did I get old...

[@azraphon]

@@znation1491I am in no meaningful way the same person as the baby that became me.

[@ADF18]

It’s like growing out your hair you don’t wake up one day and your hair is drastically longer. But when you compare two pictures months apart you see a drastic change.

[@alansabin7487]

yes the hair got longer but it is still just hair so your just like does not fly or it may just be in your face lol

[@Besotted85]

How does that compare to macro evolution? I want to know an example of changes of a species.😅

[@omerta5591]

@@Besotted85 I assume you accept microevolution. How can you not wrap your head around the fact that macroevolution is just microevolution on a larger scale?

[@Besotted85]

@@omerta5591 its called adaptation. Not a change in kinds. Which all of us do, or we wont survive.

[@omerta5591]

@@Besotted85 …. Brother, you are lost in the sauce. They don’t change to a different ‘kind.’ Adaptation and microevolution are not the same thing. It’s like you’re looking at evolution backwards. The common ancestors of two different species usually possess the traits of both species. Given enough time those adaptations add up, making them speciate. It’s really that simple. You are drawing an imaginary line between microevolution and macroevolution. Everyone that genuinely understands evolution knows that is just flat-out foolish.

[@isaaccarlson1561]

“I’m human, so are my parents” all right pal, sounds like something a lizard would say

[@cafe-tomate]

He started that by saying "like"

[@yusufA125]

@@cafe-tomateso your grandparent were like lizards 😂

[@andyz7711]

True, they are among us😂

[@yusufA125]

@@andyz7711 no I was pointing out how absurd and insane reply was “like”

[@benteuno_salbahe5604]

hahahahahahahs

[@clownkid]

jokes on you, there's a bar at the bottom of the video on desktop showing me exactly when the end of the video is!

[@stevevernon1978]

and it doesn't loop, unless i tell it to !

[@besmart]

Touché 😂

[@daa3930]

@@besmart There is also browser extension that turns shorts into regular YT videos. Because damn the shorts are terrible format. At least I wouldn't even watch them if I didn't have the browser plugin.

[@hiiamelecktro4985]

Also on mobile though?

[@chechsman]

@@daa3930 I need that plugin, what's that?

[@trenchboy831]

If you throw a grain of sand every single day at the same spot for a million years. It will eventually become a big pile of sand. There is no exact point in time where it became a pile of sand

[@keen4440ful]

Yes it is, it depends on if you want to prove your agenda or be honest, just because you can't prove it years later doesn't mean it didn't become a pile at some exact point for the tosser..... IJS

[@jordancobb7553]

Why not just throw a million grains separately per day so you are here all epoch

[@PastInNumbers]

Yes, the moment the 2nd grain of sand landed by the other it became a pile

[@gentrydean3789]

​@@PastInNumbers Is it though? Sounds like just a pair of grains to me. 😋

[@user-rj5ch1rf4z]

Theres gotta be someeee point in time to where a creature was slightly considered a human, thus making it a human

[@Skyfoogle]

it'd be like pinpointing the moment latin became italian. good luck

[@user-rj5ch1rf4z]

@Skyfoogle well duhhhh Mr. Smartie pants. Of course it would be from BLAH time to BLAH time, not an exact moment. Just like how you feel the need to hate, there's no exact point in your life where you decided your life is boring so you gotta go out your way to try and belittle everyone you come across like a narcissist

[@SilverEye91]

@@user-rj5ch1rf4z Alright, calm down. Yes, you are correct that we are talking about a span of time when species evolved for that very reason. The video specifically mentions that there was no first individual that you can claim was the first of one species.

[@user-rj5ch1rf4z]

@@SilverEye91 u believe everything you see and read?

[@SilverEye91]

@@user-rj5ch1rf4z What? I just told you that you are correct that there would be "from BLAH time to BLAH time", as you put it. So why are you asking me that question? No, I don't believe everything I see and read. That's why I believe evolution. Because I do some basic fact checking.

[@youknowshum8846]

My grandpa 180million years ago crawled out the water and now I have to work for the rest of my life 💀

[@steze439]

Literally every living creature has to work if it wants to live

[@Lonewolf_Fx]

lol

[@cinephile0620]

My grandpa 180 million years ago crawled out of the water and now I have to contemplate the meaning of life 💀

[@Elle...]

@@steze439yeah but do they pay taxes?

[@jasonturner4269]

​@Elle... no they usually fight to the death on a daily basis

[@Boundlxss_]

Honestly I hate my grandfather from 185 million yrs ago for being able to walk on land now I’m over here paying taxes

[@JamesHeller-if5kg]

Corny

[@ILLUTIX]

You could just evade tho...

[@cathcolwell2197]

😂

[@jamesmcinnis208]

"Honestly"

[@VVestside92]

In sea they work too but we don’t know how they worked 😂

[@goldenapple6720]

"He'S TaLkinG ABout HiS SiDe oF tHe fAMily" - 🤡

[@aiza4777]

oh boy, here comes the religious people

[@illoz1]

people really think we came from fish

[@aiza4777]

@Tyr0ne_ people really think we came from two human beings and had no genetic problems 😆😆

[@Tahoe10]

​@aiza4777 you can see genetic problems manifested in many different ways through recessive genes today. But original humans wouldn't have them. It's crazy that modern people think it's more insane to believe we were created than that we evolved from single cells organisms that just appeared out of primordial ooze in a planet that was formed randomly during massive explosion of massed gasses that apparently just came into existence randomly from nothing over a really long time, even though timeonly exists within the universe, which didn't yet exist.

[@HM7aep]

People really think nothing created something, dna is a code, people really think at the start, dna just randomly appeared ​@aiza4777

[@Briand-ei1gs]

Only the Adamic race. The original had no genetic abnormalities to pass on.. Rhe real religious fanatics are the evolution religion​@@aiza4777

[@imranothman219]

Dont worry guys, He's talking about his side of the family

[@owASTA]

true hahahaaah

[@Shigellosis]

Beautiful

[@Mrfunny663vnb83]

He is talking about Humans but not donkeys (No offense just responding similarly to the 1st comment)

[@fruitytarian]

😂😂

[@israelchetachi683]

😂

[@tipsyshmurda492]

Mark Zuckerberg be like " see you guys, I'm technically human"

[@saltyfish7626]

sure... ☠️

[@YouWantThatSmoke]

He’s the reason the uncanny valley became a thing 💀

[@shreehari6762]

So, if i eat fish then i am a cannabil 😮😮

[@peyos07]

He may be technically a human, but he was never biologically a human

[@lisamain3723]

Yep nothing unsual to see here

[@jn567]

Adam watching this video in heaven:

[@Corelite-_355]

Fr, we did not evolve

[@Kokichismolboi]

Then explain all of evolution. If there was a “first human”, then why are there fossils of early humans that evolved?

[@jn567]

@@Kokichismolboi from an online article "The existence of human variations in fossils is not evidence that humans evolved through an evolutionary sequence. A better question would involve an exploration of the diversity among humans descended from Noah’s family after the tower of Babel."

[@jn567]

@@Kokichismolboi answersingenesis.org/human-evolution/hominids/

[@Corelite-_355]

@@Kokichismolboi but nice try

[@l4mi4h]

*Your* grandfather may have been a fish, mine, thank goodness, was human

[@user-xm1et7cz2o]

He just said that his grandfather was human...

[@TheDeathmail]

@@user-xm1et7cz2o He's just making a joke...

[@foreverunsure]

i knew diving into this comment section would feel like fully covering myself with lava

[@kom2876]

frfr💀💀

[@frezydynecy]

True

[@JoeARedHawk275]

Bro I thought there was nothing controversial with the video. I mean it’s obvious, evolution is a slow process. It’s very rare for us to pinpoint exactly when a species evolved. These are usually single called organisms. For more complex animals, changes just gradually occur until at some point, we can no longer call it the same species it was before. Certainly biology classes need to be redone because people have the wrong conception of evolution.

[@DavidHereok]

We didn't evolved from fish we were created by the god

[@sorashou6229]

​@@DavidHereokhaa... How powerful a human imagination is yeah?

[@edvinparmeza1298]

Ok, there was no first human, but there must have been a first human who started to pay taxes.

[@Jamesishappy]

Yeah its called the first human to be extorted

[@Adventurin_hobbit]

Adam is the first human

[@razahassan8755]

Its probably some guy in Mesopotamia.

[@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh]

​@@Adventurin_hobbitwho is that 😂

[@littleboss2006]

​@@aahhhhhhhhhhhhhyour dad

[@ryneagheilim9782]

So that explains why our predecessor's surname is Falcon. Holy crap! Im a descendant of a Falcon. *lowkey falcon punch ....* 👊

[@dentonthomas5622]

Just so NO to drugs

[@cliffbooth35]

You sir.. are a fish -Arthur Morgan

[@j79n]

Replying to this comment so it gets more attention, because it deserves it

[@thatsupachamp8590]

“You Don’t Get To Live A Bad Life And Have Good Things Happen To You”

[@cliffbooth35]

@@thatsupachamp8590 just be loyal to wat matters

[@speedrunmcporridge286]

“Ah it’s a toy boat!”

[@justinhackstadt6677]

*"You're a fish" -John Marston*

[@mifbelle1696]

I'd like to claim the Atlantic ocean as my Great great grandpa's property.

[@shaun7711]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@internet-gangsta2162]

You mean Our

[@mifbelle1696]

@@internet-gangsta2162 Bro you take the Pacific ocean.

[@theemirofjaffa2266]

Good luck on that 😂

[@internet-gangsta2162]

@@mifbelle1696 I'll take the Pacific and Arctic,do we have a deal?

[@BASEBALLSZN123]

👇if God is good

[@Frost_actual]

Adam wasn't human confirmed:

[@terryheatwole6153]

Adam is a myth

[@Frost_actual]

@@terryheatwole6153 lol that's debatable but hey believe what you want it's 2024 this was originally a joke comment 🤣

[@TonySiragusa99]

@@terryheatwole6153as are you

[@kazumi1315]

this man made all religious people mad in an instant

[@thegreatsoutherntrendkill272]

I mean being a staunch evolutionist requires stupid amounts of religious blindness lol

[@thevvitch7585]

​@@thegreatsoutherntrendkill272I love irony

[@user-gf9iy9yl2o]

Actually he made us laugh. I love hearing a good fairytale. Especially one about the earth magically creating itself and humans evolving from fish mutants. I needed this laugh and I thank you and the other Darwinist below you. 🐠

[@terrence6921]

​@@user-gf9iy9yl2odespite your incredulity, there is actual evidence to support that we did, in fact, evolve from fish. In 2008, University of Chicago professor Neil Shubin wrote a book entitled, Your Inner Fish, which discussed human anatomy and embryonic development that specifically resulted from our time spent as fish. Also, I must say nobody asserts that the earth "magically created itself" other than creationists who strawman arguments that contradict their beliefs. You say we, the atheists are the ones who believe in fairytales. Don't you find it ironic that you believe a man and woman were created out of dust and deceived by a talking serpent into eating a magic apple that then brought evil into the world, despite the fact that there is no evidence for that?

[@wyattcole5452]

I’m not religious and I was a little ticked by the “actually, I was there” attitude he exhibits

[@eitancahlon]

It's like if you have a short hair and you let your hair grow, there is no first day with long hair. The hair looks (almost) the exact same after a day but when you look at your hair in different months you can notice drastic changes.

[@portal7314]

I agree, great analogy.

[@MahmoudS]

Yeah but your hair is still hair. It doesn’t change in anything but length. In any case, even with the Color spectrum as an example, Color’s are our perception and the names we give them based on what we see. I think that evolution differs in that we can determine stages based on speciation, or specifically: how many generations or mutations it takes for two estranged groups with the same origin to no longer be able to reproduce with one another. There has to be a certain point where the dna is no longer compatible and I would speculate that is when the first of a new species arises.

[@Typical.Anomaly]

@@MahmoudS But blah blah blah... it's a good analogy.

[@DETahaX]

@@Typical.Anomaly I think you've just proven the theory to be correct, because you're acting like a monkey right about now. Listen to intellectuals next time instead of going "blah blah" to their face like come kind of vampire.

[@dallas5609]

What about when men shave and next day they got the 5pm shadow hair? You can literally see your hair grow bro

[@BobJoushaSmith]

bro just called my greatest grandfather a fish

[@alferrbidelspatch158]

Our greatest grandfather

[@nightizzat4574]

I will apologize when the fish start to walk.

[@brianarbenz1329]

So swim around for a few minutes, eat a plankton or two and deal with it - the way your greatest grandfather would.

[@duckyhub142]

Our greatest grandfather was actually just some bacteria

[@floppa_afton6282]

He talking about hes family. Our father its adam عليه السلام

[@orathaic]

"I'm human, so are my parents" - is exactly what someone who wasn't human would say...😏

[@user-to2to1nr4s]

Its also someone who IS human would say.

[@RJ-mh3ox]

@@user-to2to1nr4snaaa a lot of the people in my highschool just called their parents racist or absent 😂

[@navneetrout8193]

Actually only a human can "say". Ridiculous.

[@marvellbgry]

😂

[@abbskebabs6288]

That reminded me of that one clip of mark Zuckerberg being like "I was human, I am human....still" 😂😂

[@sheenawarecki92]

The first time i seem someone point out the idea of a missing link was impossible because evolution is more like the rainbow spectrum and everything blends instead of being like block colors.

[@B.RamSrinathMayorofPeaceville]

The more I understand life, observing, studying, the less I think we “evolved”.

[@SilverEye91]

Literally how? Are you exclusively learning from misinformation sites or what?

[@B.RamSrinathMayorofPeaceville]

@@SilverEye91 try turning the phone off for a week and get back to me - go to a library, read a book.

[@merlinkater7756]

Analogy: take a gradient that goes from yellow to green, and try to mark the exact point where it stops being yellow and becomes green.

[@avengers363403]

Except you can make a distinction at some point with non continuous sets. Species have distinct points asking the spectrum (each individual is a new point). So yes you could select a single point and call it human

[@robertoarmstrong7317]

I’m colour blind! Help!

[@jordantyler148]

@@avengers363403 you can select a point, but that point isn’t real, these categories are constructed

[@strachu7689]

I personally think that it is a great analogy, and when I thought that this guy’s opinion is non factual, u kinda cleared it for me, cheers!😁👌

[@merlinkater7756]

What I find extra funny about this analogy is that I remember my brother and I would disagree about the color of trans-neon-green Lego pieces. I was convinced they were Green but my brother was certain they were yellow. (mind you this was back before online lego resources like bricklink so we didnt know the official name) Everybody sees color differently. Endless discussion!

[@harrywilliammcbride9910]

"Just like you cant tell when this video starts and ends....." The red line at the bottom of the short: Ima end this man's whole career.

[@christianthomas8069]

You can learn a lot about evolution from the red line

[@digimonlover1632]

Sometimes it doesn’t show up though.

[@hereisapictureofabroom]

Short pause at the end of the short: "Allow me to introduce myself :)...."

[@plant_12]

My memory:

[@mandown3448]

💀💀

[@OREG_CAT]

The first human was Adam❤

[@paulthomson2288]

The "moment" is measured in a geological time scale. The boundary between two strata. One layer contains the known fossil record but is absent in the older layer.

[@SaudiaMan]

The science teacher trying to explain to the religion teacher about evolution be like :

[@anthonybrett]

Actually, I think its more the science teacher trying to teach the woke ideologues that seem to think we were dropped off here by aliens. They don't believe that humans have a nature. They believe that everything is socially constructed. They deny that the very essence of who they are was blessed to them by millions of years of evolution, ergo, they deny reality, no different than a religion, because "woke" IS a religion.

[@AesthetixVB]

@@anthonybrett… that is the single most idiotic thing I read all day pffftt

[@BB-np4ib]

@@anthonybrett lol what?

[@gregoryhancock8605]

I find it hard to believe in that with the lack of the stages of evolutionary bones. Even his explanation doesn't make sense as there should be some sort of little changes in bone structure as evolution took place.

[@matjaz5684]

​@@gregoryhancock8605literally says in the video that a species only looks different when you compare two distant generations and that for example a parent and a child would be virtually identical because the differences are gradual and only apparent after a certain amount of time

[@SPZ909]

It’s like asking when does a child become an adult. Of course for the law it’s on the 18th birthday, but we all know it’s a gradual process and you can never pinpoint the moment a child became an adult.

[@greenisgood8219]

At the age of forty.

[@joshuadeu6603]

members of a species are a group of organisms capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring. Different species typically have distinct physical characteristics, behaviors, and genetic makeup, which can set them apart. The inability to successfully reproduce with members of a different species often leads to reproductive isolation, reinforcing the separation between species. Other factors like ecological niche, geography, and evolutionary history can also contribute to defining one species from another.

[@miricobladetail9670]

It varies from place to place and also what you are talking about. For example people can't purchase alcohol legally until they are 21.

[@internetuser4210]

"-So, to answer your question officer, yes she was old enou-"

[@richardlemon8896]

i now understand

[@tonotosaborlimon]

my grandfather 185 Mya decided to breathe air, i love him like he just carried us all, look around u done? if tiktaalik didnt have to go to land all of this would not exsist

[@randomshadow4620]

As far as my memory serves me, my greatest grandfather was an amino acid.

[@KREEZY.]

ADAM WAS THE FIRST MAN HUMANS THROUGHOUT HISTORY SINCE THE DAWN IF TIME HAVE SAID THIS AND THERE ARE WITNESSES AND EVIDENCE AND TO THIS DAY 70% HUMANS BELIEVE ADAM WAS THE FIRST MAN DENY THIS AND YOU DENY ALL WINTNISSESS AND PROOFS AND MOST OF HUMANITY AND TIME ITSELF.

[@Amberkiz]

​@@KREEZY. How can you say facts when you don't know that for sure yourself?

[@TopG20073]

💀

[@ThizzyMan]

​@@KREEZY.How you know thats a fact? You a friend of his?

[@tyrannosaurustits7083]

​@@KREEZY. Yeah, religion implies that we are all products of incest

[@karlvuleta]

It's like age. You weren't a child and then suddenly you were an adult. You didn't suddenly go from adult to elderly. It's a gradual change we can't see, but we can easily categorise

[@abedbbb7083]

no that analogy doesn't work here, the concept of biological evolution is pseudoscientific and lack experimental evidence, they are digging things from the ground then compiling suggestions about it, and from chemical perspective and statistical one too this evolution is very very very unlikely to get one correct functional protein with specific structure by abiotic synthesis takes billions of years from a probabilistic point of view ,so when you take a whole organism that's another whole dilemma, changes can happen within species through several mechanisms like genetic crossing over and transposable genes but to diverge to another species by mutations that's also very unlikely because the genetic program is pretty much holistic which is not the appropriate term but the most close to what is in reality , a drastic mutation in the genome is very likely lethal for an organism, the viable ones can't change too much in the genetic program to produce a whole new specie, so the probabilities are very slim and the scientific method is pretty much altered in this theory

[@bretert]

Well legally you do go from child to adult in 1 day.

[@allan710]

​@@bretert which is absurd, but legally, it is good enough.

[@disinfect777]

@@bretert Biologically you go from child to adult over night as well. The day you start puberty is when you biologically enter adulthood.

[@apjgraphix]

​@@disinfect777There isn't a a day where puberty starts.Your hormone levels begin to increase way before you start to show any physical signals that you are entering puberty. Is not like you go to sleep and the next day you wake up with a mustache hair on your parts and acne on your face 😅

[@dihumphreys8400]

Grandad Tiktaalik (the fish we evolv d from) walked on land and now i have to take my A-Levels

[@Xx_Courtney_Gacha_xXpart2]

Christians: 🤬🤬🤬🤬 THE FIRST HUMANS ARE ADAM AND EVE (or Lilith, if that’s what you believe.)

[@NiGht_mAre671]

This is bogus if that was the case we would all be brothers and sisters

[@jehkcraw4d]

I took Philosophy of Biology during my undergrad and the professor hated my “it is what it is until it isn’t” approach to defining species. That’s how I knew he was more of a philosopher than a biologist.

[@Hhh38335]

okay what is a cat lion also cat right. stray cat and lion have %95 common dna and also have different sound box, longer(lion) and shorter(pet cat) skull. now look human and chimpanzze they have %98,7 common dna. same amount hair in same amount area. similar instict, charcteristic and organs, same amount bone etc. so if lion is a cat and have common ancestor. must be logically humans and chimps also have common ancestor.

[@iantino]

More importantly, we see which believes he has to ontology.

[@sharlena-jc5zw]

​@@Hhh38335It's been said we share more dna with a banana 😅 Whats normal for the spider,,, is chaos to the fly...🍌

[@Hhh38335]

@@sharlena-jc5zw its false information. yes we have similar gene with plants approximately %35 - %45 percent. animal and plant common ancestor live 1.5 billion years ago. we share same gene with spider approximately %65 - %70 percent and common ancestor live 500 million years ago. some creatures have short life cycle and quickly jump generaton. example rat. they live 2 years and made many babies. this make them geneticlay more diverse and quickly change dna. even rat closer to us by common ancestor. we have %90 similar dna with dogs, only %88 similar dna with rat. similar thing apear some plants and other animals.

[@jorgechavez6723]

Had To Be Created By Other At The Same Time Or Just A Couple Or Just One?

[@Adarsh_amd]

"Don't cry, I am just a fish" ~Grandfather 185 million generations ago probably

[@MahdiHassan-sv8fe]

Im only a fish afterall, dont put the blame one me

[@Why_did_YouTube_add_handles]

now this shits about to kick off this fishy looks wack lets take back to straight fishhop and start it from scratch

[@akshayhere]

There's no such thing as a fish

[@suryanshawasthi1815]

185 million generation not years

[@Adarsh_amd]

​@@suryanshawasthi1815 thank you

[@Shsishsgsk]

If that's the case then spirituality is a fluke and no one has a soul, which means no higher power and divinity, which means no such thing as ghosts and haunted places, which means no supernatural occurrences, which means objects don't move by themselves and fly off shelves, which means no abandoned buildings with ghosts looking out the window.

[@SilverEye91]

It doesn't mean that at all actually. Evolution has nothing to do with existences of souls, or deities. Evolution is a real thing that happened, maybe those other things exist, but if they do they are also reliant on evolution.

[@gentrydean3789]

Hercule Poirot in "Haunting in Venice" ?

[@oscarvillarreal3325]

Is this not just common sense?

[@VegetarianLoin]

Bro called me a fish in 32 different languages

[@saltyfish7626]

You mean in one language?

[@motherisape]

​@@saltyfish7626lol

[@saltyfish7626]

@@motherisape I actually don't get it. Why 32 languages? I feel like I am missing a joke.☠️

[@JarodJoseph]

@@saltyfish7626he just wanted to do the trendy “Bro did something” to be cool post but didn’t think it through

[@romuluscerchez2883]

That is stupid. No kne has ever wornessed a soxies turninh into another, and there is no evidence of any in the fossil records.

[@mayurdahiwale5907]

Its like a flipbook, where two sequential pages are identical, but distant pages are different

[@bfboobie]

Identical is not the correct word here

[@mayurdahiwale5907]

@@bfboobie so what do you suggest

[@bfboobie]

@@mayurdahiwale5907 very similar, or nearly-identical, for the flip book example. I guess in some high page count flipbooks, there might be identical sequential pages if the artist is creating a "pause" in the action, but in flipbooks I've made and seen from others, each page is gradually different, ie NOT identical "identical" is a very specific term, and if offspring were identical to parents (no mutations or varying gene expression), then evolution would never happen Identical means exactly the same. Identical from one to the next in a sequence means ZERO change. Maybe an improper example here, but one might say that 2.001 and integer 2 are very similar, but not identical. In math for instance, the equal sign = means identical, while the wavy bars mean approximately equal, or similar (I can't find that math symbol on my phone)

[@mayurdahiwale5907]

@@bfboobie okay, you have a point. Accepted. Btw i feel this similar vs identical etc case can be more elaborately explained by VSauce 😅

[@bfboobie]

@@mayurdahiwale5907 I don't mean to disagree with your premise because you make a good analogy with the slow gradual change of a flip book between sequential pages versus comparing pages that are far apart. I just felt the need to nitpick about the specific use of one word. Lol I agree with your analogy By the way what is Vsauce?

[@beinghuman7355]

I'm open minded about these things but there is no part present human part past human whatever that might look like.

[@BattlewaveDoesStuff]

So eating fish is cannibalism 😭🙏

[@josephsanchez5697]

“There is more wisdom in your body than in your deepest reason “ -Nietzche

[@abdfever]

Cool quote, but than *

[@MetallicSZN]

@@josephsanchez5697You used “then” instead of “than”

[@danajohnson6566]

THAN! DAMMIT!

[@jennyanydots2389]

@@josephsanchez5697 Cool quote son but it's not from Freddy Numbchucks, it's actually a quote from Steven Seagal back in the late 1990's when he was playing professional football on the side.

[@josephsanchez5697]

@@jennyanydots2389 Nietzche said this in 1884 on his book “thus spoke Zarathustra “

[@raghav1026]

Fun fact: Our greatest grandfathers were stars. Many of the heavy elements in the universe were created in the cores of stars or when neutron stars collided.

[@The_E_Lord]

Yep, but we were also gases before we were stars.

[@lolxd1434]

so u mean that we were gas, later an star, later a fish, later humans? wtf

[@douglasfisher4068]

@@lolxd1434takes a star to form planets. By sheer luck, we got a mix of all the elements, at the perfect distance, with perfect temperature, and perfect tilt, and boom elements create us all

[@The_E_Lord]

@@lolxd1434 Do you believe in a floating man who made us?

[@lolxd1434]

@@The_E_Lord u mean a powerful God?

[@KenzoRBX67__-]

God: erm actually I made you guys with sand _🗿_

[@ej_22]

I that this is a joke,God spoke a world then Adam was made

[@craaab____721]

@@ej_22 how does just speaking manifest matter? explain.

[@ej_22]

@@craaab____721 to explain why it matters because it's the truth

[@craaab____721]

@@ej_22 No, i mean matter as in particles, what did you think i was talking about? i would be happy to explain the specifics of the big bang if you would like. and then after that maybe you could explain HOW God made the universe.

[@Goji-eletienne]

What even is sand? A collection of poo particles from every other bad idea that came before 🤣🤣🤣

[@god-ui9lm]

I am studying religions at Harvard & found that only Hinduism has pointed out a hype of Evolution process. My mind is terrified now that how they came to know the hint about that thousands of years ago

[@rahatahmed6188]

Their book says the universe is 1.7 trillion years old.

[@craaab____721]

@@rahatahmed6188 i mean, if we are somehow able to find traces of CMBR even further than what we can currently detect, maybe.

[@gradesam6306]

Evolution of physical appearance is like painting with a tiny brush, one small stroke at a time, placed in random locations

[@croissora]

id say thats a better analogy than some others ive heard! good comparison

[@joshmcgill4639]

But many weren't small but big strokes. And certainly not just at random. I believe in evolution but the idea that our ancestors was another species is a specuation very similar or course but not the same Growth wise.

[@chasecoleman9895]

​@@joshmcgill4639when people talk of micro evolution i.just think adaptation

[@wearemuslimsss]

Relax guyz hes talking about his side of family.

[@willieboyland3180]

Exactly!! No need to debate the origin of his species.

[@Gimmickvr]

Lmao

[@YusufAhmed_11]

His family also traces its lineage back to Adam, peace be upon him

[@whoisthebossimtheboss4487]

Right now humanity is closer to the last human than the first.

[@sharanpaulsinku1096]

💀 don't worry evolution is fun as long as you're not the first.

[@amevlia]

​@witheringleaves5431 nope! Humans are always evolving, among the things we will lose from evolution will include things like toes and beards. We just won't be alive to see it but we are always evolving and will always continue to, even though you can't see it. Cheers!

[@rahulsharma3911]

@witheringleaves5431I wouldn’t be so sure of that. Give it some hundred thousand years, advancements in civilisation and changes in environment.

[@NotZack1234]

@witheringleaves5431 our design isn't anatomically perfect therefore our body will evolve whenever it's an benefit on what ever we do constantly like the some native people in my country they have 50% larger spleens because every day they go hunting in the water for 1 to 2 minutes multiple times a day Or people who lives in low density air they have better breathing being I think without 40% out of 100 of air

[@emericswitch2718]

​@witheringleaves5431Well no, evolution is still happening. I'm assuming the commenter just meant we're going to go extinct sometime soon due to our killing of the planet.

[@thats_songi]

its kinda like pinpionting the exact moment you became an adult biologically.

[@alexmaines5513]

Think about age. Is there any one point that an infant becomes a toddler? Or that a toddler becomes a child? Or that an adult becomes an elder?

[@JetTailor]

The day an infant crawls is the day the infant becomes a toddler.

[@terrencehamm4662]

take a picture of your child from age 2 on everyday. You’ll never notice a difference from day to day, but someday they become a full grown adult and only by comparing different years can you see the change.

[@matthewdean7825]

but they did not change species at any point.

[@AngelEmfrbl]

​@@matthewdean7825tgats because age is not evolution.😅

[@terrencehamm4662]

@@matthewdean7825 just an analogy.

[@johntrains1317]

​@@matthewdean7825*face palm*

[@madman7544]

​@@matthewdean7825Wow you really said that.

[@somerandomfolk]

It's very similar to the "sorites paradox" that Micheal talked about in his video "Do chairs exist?" He talked about when does a chair stops becoming a chair if we remove very little parts by scratching enough times

[@thaumaTurtles]

I like that you can just say Michael and we all know which one you mean

[@Disiplyn]

​@@thaumaTurtlesYea, everyone knows Micheal Jordan

[@Leo-ok3uj]

I honestly have no idea what Micheal he is talking about

[@HC-ur9no]

@@Leo-ok3uj How the turn tables - Michael Scott

[@Querez8504]

​@@Leo-ok3uj Michael Stevens from Vsauce, a popular KZbin channel

[@weilijrfang7364]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 my ancestors were humans. I guess only your ancestors were tuna fish 😂😂😂😂

[@BraydonMonsrud]

Imagine being an aethesit

[@notcharlie7107]

Its like aging, nothing looks like its changed day to day, but if you compare two decades a lot has changed

[@CanariasCanariass]

Good example :)

[@frailvoid5844]

I notice things changing day to day but I suppose others aren't cursed to be as observant and self aware as I am, but I stay humble towards my abilities for the pain it brings me despite enlightenment. Sorry for the ramble, hope you have a nice day

[@hopelessnerd6677]

Probably the most relatable analogy possible.

[@shwet218]

​@@frailvoid5844 are you neurodivergent?

[@frailvoid5844]

@@shwet218 my original comment was half joking since I don't actually view it as enlightenment and just thought it'd be funny to act cartoonishly pretentious. But yeah I do have add, ocd & dysmorphia, ptsd and I've had a couple psychological evaluations and the doctors couldn't tell if I have autism or if it's just anxiety symptoms causing similar symptoms. Anywayz thanks for listening, Shweta

[@flatsunsociety8172]

Ahh, I wonder what nice and lovely things people have to say in the comments

[@zackhershey6714]

Yeah, I already knew what the comment section would be like before I looked

[@sjl197]

The comments section is like we gave a million monkeys typewriters, and hoped for one writing Shakespeare.

[@moisesbeyond]

If you are human and you came from a human couple and each generation before were less people then if you keep going back there will be a first pair of human, the original first human couple.

[@purpleAiPEy]

i left youtube for a few years, now its just full of stupid. the algorithm shows me garbage and comments on interesting videos are deluded. wtf happened

[@TheGoose8299]

Evolution is a well-established scientific theory supported by a vast body of evidence from various fields such as paleontology, genetics, molecular biology, and comparative anatomy. Some of the key evidence includes: 1. Fossil Record: The fossil record shows a clear progression of life forms over time, with simpler organisms found in older rock layers and more complex ones in younger layers. 2. Homologous Structures: Similarities in the structures of different species suggest a common ancestry. For example, the bone structure of vertebrate limbs (like the arm of a human, the wing of a bird, or the flipper of a whale) shares the same basic arrangement. 3. Comparative Anatomy: Comparative studies of different species' anatomies reveal similarities and differences that align with their evolutionary relationships. 4. Molecular Biology: DNA and genetic studies show patterns of shared genes and molecular sequences among different species, providing strong evidence for common ancestry. 5. Artificial Selection: The process of selective breeding, as demonstrated in domesticated animals and plants, mimics natural selection and leads to observable changes in species over generations. 6. Transitional Fossils: Fossils that exhibit characteristics of both older and more recent species provide evidence for gradual changes over time. 7. Biogeography: The geographical distribution of species aligns with evolutionary predictions, suggesting that organisms evolved in specific regions and then migrated to other areas. 8. Convergent Evolution: Unrelated species in similar environments can develop similar traits due to similar selective pressures, indicating the role of natural selection in shaping adaptations. The overwhelming convergence of evidence from these diverse fields supports the reality of evolution as a fundamental process shaping the diversity of life on Earth over millions of years. It is essential to recognize that evolution is a scientific theory backed by evidence and not merely a hypothesis or speculation.

[@Amuff2840]

If the first human was Adam 👇

[@heethanthen]

Nope

[@megadroin7230]

It's crazy to think about that our grandfather 185 million generation ago was a fish

[@holaamigo3084]

“knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.” ‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3‬:‭3‬-‭7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[@paullentz1972]

Dude, religion was INVENTED...because our ancestors wanted answers to questions that they couldnt answer at the time. However today, we are learning so much more due to science, the fossil record, DNA, ocean core samples, The Grand Canyon, The KT line, etc. when it comes to Earth's past. Give the made up god BS a rest.

[@Jonconji]

Next time someone says i have those fish lips, i know it’s just my ancestral genes showing

[@nerdyboo]

you got those fish lips

[@jameskhumalo-nh7hv]

😂😂😂😂

[@hellothere5797]

My laptop wasn’t built in a factory, it was just a bunch of random molecules that collected over millions of years to form this 15” Lenovo laptop

[@youngbloodnba]

This man gave an argument against himself 😂

[@sulyvahnthetyrant7378]

That’s exactly what happened

[@andfox78459]

I don't even see his point

[@adilhaneefmd]

A thing as simple as laptop doesn't get randomly selected, what makes these foos think human randomly formed, this is to the evolutionist~Adam and eve

[@That-Guppy]

You're not a laptop though. Besides a laptop is designed with all the perfect pieces in place. And if you're absolutely convinced humans are a great design then realize how dumb it'd be for a car's exhaust pipe to be the same place where you add oil and gas

[@martinbyrne3170]

Are you talking about my grandfather? Huh huh huh

[@reiltinedwards4459]

It's the same concept as when does it become a pile when you add one grain of sand at a time? When does that pile become a dune?

[@12fulworld69]

the first statement was so vsauce-like I was surprised when the music didn't hit.

[@sprankbomskuarpanz2276]

real

[@maxi_trash]

​@@sprankbomskuarpanz2276sbonch pop

[@Ytekai_]

I wanted to add that the first human was created by God when he breathed in a soul into Adam, but my grandfather 185 million generations ago was a fish

[@total_blasphemy]

@@Ytekai_real

[@You-vv1xv]

@@Ytekai_???

[@prof_jesus]

When dumb people think of evolution, they think we're suggesting a Pokemon-esque kinda evolution.

[@afriendlycampfire260]

Like pawmi to pawmot or feebas to milotic or remoraid to octillery

[@RajMGandhi]

I mean it does happen with butterflies though...

[@Patriotic_Hindu]

Even tho I'm a religious person this made me laugh out loud 😂 NOTE: I am religious but not a stupid blind follower 😅😅

[@kevinsosa2906]

Whose your favorite pokemon?

[@TechySeven]

@@RajMGandhi Nah, that's called "metamorphosis" and it too is something that had to evolve over time.

[@Bionkyoink-id1zd]

Humanoid human humaning humanity 🗣🗣🗣🗣⚡⚡⚡🔥🔥🔥

[@Randomvideos-km2be]

No brother you are wrong. The first human is Adam. God made Adam.

[@user-yh3lr5cy6y]

Amen!!!

[@MonsieurleFeuu]

🤦‍♂️ i feel really sorry for people like you...

[@Dairen232]

@@MonsieurleFeuu no we feel sorry for people like you

[@scarecobra0618]

Amen 🙏🏻 you’d be correct

[@danzoom]

You are wrong. Humans were created by Brahma, see the light. I was just like you before I started reading on dharmic religions and then I saw it all.

[@alihesso2233]

"my greatest grandpa was a frog" 💀

[@coolgamrprorobpozswagger69420]

“my greatest grandpa was a germ”

[@poozer1986]

Very possibly

[@FuzDoesStuff]

the french be like /j

[@jirredvang901]

Jokes on you my grandfather 185 million years ago was actually a squid

[@hackman669]

Really, just took a DNA test and mine was a newt. Further down the link great grandpa ape saw a pretty Neanderthal abs the rest was history. It's all in the DNA. 😊

[@arlandolittle7625]

@@hackman669God did all this sonny boy!

[@Raptor_Ren]

@@arlandolittle7625Are there other stars and planets in the universe in your worldview?

[@arlandolittle7625]

@@Raptor_Ren how could a planet or sun make itself?

[@Raptor_Ren]

@@arlandolittle7625 not the question I asked you. Do you think there are other suns with other planets out there?

[@skipmage]

Even more insane, your grand parent fish and mine are probably the same one.

[@MosukaDreamer]

This is something that they fail to explain at school. There are still people who believe in missing links.

[@sebastiannolte1201]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3TZZ3qCrNlkna8 :-) If you want to find a fossile of each "missing link" you need a fossile of each generation.

[@Tyrnak_Fenrir]

Someone compared it to languages. There is no way to tell exactly when Latin turned into Spanish. No point in time where you'd say "your parents speak Latin, but you speak Spanish" it's all about those small changes adding up over time.

[@lamborghinifan13]

Fall of Babylon

[@Lucciii32]

@@lamborghinifan13never happened 😭

[@Juanes1309]

Language evolution does not work like that

[@Pengouinn]

Yes, I speak french but im technically speaking latin

[@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr]

this is why "vulgar latin" is a vague classification we dont know exactly when "coraticum" turned into "coragium"

[@uzumakiitachi644]

Bro really thought he had a clean loop video but we all noticed the beginning after the end

[@extxvlogs]

Yeah, I've seen so much creators and videos forcefully trying to make that loop clean and they always suck so much 😂 I've seen like 1 or 2 tops that actually achieve it

[@zephyr.8850]

​@@extxvlogsMost of them will not get paid for this, if you think this is not good enough, so please at least appreciate their time and energy to make this content

[@extxvlogs]

@@zephyr.8850 who told you I didn't appreciate the whole thing? Who told you I base my whole judgment, praise and critic of their content on just how poorly executed and planned their loop mechanics are? Because I'm for hell sure I didn't say that on my first comment, if you have the mentality of never criticizing anything, good for you, but don't expect others to never point out faults and expect improvements. Those things are minor and inconsecuential, that's why I made light of it, but it seems that even that is way past the moral and human line that shouldn't be crossed! 🙄 I really like this an other's channel content and when I do, I make sure to let them know, so please, for a second, get off your high and mighty horse.

[@zephyr.8850]

​@@extxvlogsI was just saying it's important to respect their efforts. And Calling other people's work sucks is totally not a criticism, And I'm sure anyone else reading your 1st comment thinks the same thing

[@uzumakiitachi644]

@@zephyr.8850 You are telling to appreciate his efforts. Efforts for what? For teaching us nonsense like there's NO first human and our ancestors were FISH.

[@Masckerdoom]

Body language in this video is crazy

[@off_gaming73]

I'm human and my grand grand...father was a human Adam (pubh)

[@qwertyqeys]

There's a point in time where we might decide "that thing has enough traits I recognize it as a human" but you might also recognize that it has traits you don't carry and vice versa. It gets even trickier when you question what we use to determine humanity. If we go by level of mental function then that's just dangerous, it has a high risk of diminishing the personhood of those who are mentally impaired, either due to genetics, injuries, or underprivileged backgrounds. Most of what we consider unique to humanity (written/spoken language, invention) we can also find missing in people born today, varying levels of illiteracy, nonverbal behavior, or lack of problem solving skills. Yet we recognize them as human, or at least anyone worth listening to does

[@explorateur8159]

Well we could define something by the development of a species in terms of general characteristics even if, within the species, there are mutations or different morphs, etc. What, then, would define the species was WHEN the species came to have a collection of traits, such as intelligence, which may have first culminated in a single individual. Although we might agree that criteria formation may be somewhat subjective or contextual.

[@rickojay7536]

No a specific point actually

[@tufigeat1781]

art? Spirituality? self-recognition in the mirror? thoughts on the afterlife? honour? dignity?

[@echiko4932]

​@@tufigeat1781so mental functions, some of which can be found in other species and some of which are lacking in humans.

[@echiko4932]

I judge peoples humanity on how good they cook. If they're tasty, def human.

[@respectyasuomains8791]

Now i can formally identify myself as a millennium fish

[@truthdawn7773]

there must be a creator that knows that theres a sperm must reach an egg , the sperm wont ever know that theres an egg to go to ,never knew that theres a certain PH in the womb or before it, never knew that they must be in a huge nomber, Every male and female depends on each other to exist ,so they must be existed at the same time ,with the same suitable functionality,to manage to reproduce and last .. Any disorder or a difference in any complicated functionality of both of them ,they will just die.

[@artsamurai-kun4647]

You have my blessings to become millennium falcon as well 😊

[@Ibuyshort]

Stop the cap g

[@poozer1986]

​@@Ibuyshortno cap. Evolution is a fact

[@frosty7264]

adam would like to intervene

[@user-ze3lk1ov5b]

Common sense of evolution wouldn't allow such hideous intervene of a man made concept 2.000 years old against a reality over 350 millions years old

[@heethanthen]

He’s too busy not existing to intervene

[@frosty7264]

@@heethanthen last i checked humans aren’t immortal, he’s dead so of course he doesn’t exist now. but he did once and his name may not of been adam, but there was one.

[@heethanthen]

@@frosty7264 He didn’t exist then and he doesn’t exist now.

[@TFTV-ks3jo]

Wait so im a fish

[@BIayne]

Yes

[@Sahelanthropustchadensis52]

Technically yes

[@BEK-yj9mr]

Ever get hiccups?

[@MrArdytube]

For me, it is like getting older. Every morning you look in the mirror and see exactly the same person. Then, one morning you wake up on your 74th birthday…. Wondering why all the people around you seem to have aged so much

[@brightshining]

Ah, I love this Bless you so much 😊

[@zackerythomas3675]

👍👍👍

[@ermiasassefa3012]

exactly.

[@truthdawn7773]

there must be a creator that knows that theres a sperm must reach an egg , the sperm wont ever know that theres an egg to go to ,never knew that theres a certain PH in the womb or before it, never knew that they must be in a huge nomber, Every male and female depends on each other to exist ,so they must be existed at the same time ,with the same suitable functionality,to manage to reproduce and last .. Any disorder or a difference in any complicated functionality of both of them ,they will just die.

[@easybandzofficial6456]

You’re still a human being just old. You don’t become a fish when you get old smh

[@BlueHaloStar]

I shall now own the ocean because its my great grandpa property 300 million years ago

[@CherryMosley]

Native American logic

[@poozer1986]

Ridiculous comment

[@mioki-leaf2]

It's our, you're not the only fish here

[@hackman669]

Russian logic. I owned Alaska a long time ago. Now I want it back. Putin: I want it my way. Media: Tell me more. Tell me more. Putin: A long time a go there was Tsar. He was caught in a jam. Media: Umm. Ha Putin: He was late paying his finance! Media: Tell me more. Tell me more. Putin: He didn't have the funds to build his palace. Media: Umm.. Was he drunk or just down on his luck? Putin: He went to his father but didn't have a buck. Barrowed from his bro. Couldn't pay him back. Media: Umm... ha. What did he do to pay him back? Putin: One day he heard a knock. It was Uncle Sam. He offered to buy si really cheap land. Media: Then what? Putin: Then he sold them Akaska. Now I want it back!

[@daviddunn8377]

This video makes the “chicken or the egg” question a lot more confusing 😂😂

[@SilverEye91]

Nah. It answers it.

[@daviddunn8377]

Not necessarily. Could u explain

[@theodorejay1046]

Chicken or egg argument... pointless 😁

[@craaab____721]

the functioning organism, (possibly a protist) came first, as eggs are not needed for mitosis. you're right in pointing out that the question is pointless, because how life came to be, and the life cycle of an animal that has evolved over millions of years are two very different stories pal.

[@rohitbishnoi1139]

"my grandfather 185 million generations ago was a fish"

[@raymondcava4669]

This helps to paint a picture of evolution

[@madeline6951]

taxonomically we all are in fact fish

[@girlofanimation]

Lol. Ok, Vardaman.

[@seanA416]

So did we have lungs or gills or both when we evolved onto land? There has never been one example of a species change. Evolution is blind faith.

[@theuncoolbateman3732]

Philosophically we all are a fish

[@s.t167]

If this still sounds insane in 2023, I don't know what sanity is

[@sharanpaulsinku1096]

This is society

[@doller6584]

Satin is a fish

[@spackseries4400]

This is Patrick

[@kengreclamaresteban]

This is my kingdom come

[@GiltleyRage]

So the egg was first cause we can't even pinpoint the moment when chicken became chicken xD

[@qibly]

Basically

[@fizfizfizfiz]

"Hey man, what's up?" "Nothing much, just evolving."

[@Zul_Qarnain]

" Son, he is talking about his side of family"

[@Hope-om1kc]

Fr cause I'm a decendant of Adam and Eve as well as Abraham (the Father of the Nations) not some fish

[@Zul_Qarnain]

@@Hope-om1kc Me too bro . Turns out we are brothers 💪

[@TheDogBasti]

​@@Hope-om1kc me too brother

[@highonlife2323]

@@Hope-om1kc Christ is king. Created in the image and likeness of God. We possess both soul and human body. Aint come from no fuckin fish

[@XYZ-Frost]

​@@highonlife2323Do you think the Lord would ever say that f word?

[@travisandfreddy2176]

That means my dad is more monkey than me, let's gooooo

[@vikeniswaranpathma8524]

😂👍🏽

[@shwet218]

😂😂😂

[@anglomandingo666]

Ape

[@Sam-og1xd]

​@@anglomandingo666 shawty ape and monkey the same thing different word

[@Blackmark52]

@@Sam-og1xd"ape and monkey the same thing" Monkey is a broader term. Apes are monkeys, humans are apes so humans are technically monkeys, but monkeys aren't apes. Apes never have tails.

[@felworld7246]

Life in general is a negative experience.

[@jonathancarrillo8290]

Man I hate my grandpa 185 million years ago all he did was swim without a worry in the world now I'm working and paying taxes for the rest of my life

[@yjsuck]

Funny how so many molecular biologists disagree with this.

[@SilverEye91]

Funny how that's not true. You've just made that up.

[@yjsuck]

@@SilverEye91 I certainly did not. Feel free to Google it.

[@SilverEye91]

​@@yjsuckMolecular biologists do not disagree that evolution is real or that there wasn't a first human. You may be confusing this for a other topic, abiogenisis. But it doesn't matter how life started, evolution still happened and continues to happen

[@Lookmaxxed_Pikachu_69]

Making up stuff again are we bible stiffy