These Stylist Need To Stop With The Gaslighting‼️😝Post No Oils, Butters & Curly Cuts Saga Continues😓

If you’ve been following my channel long enough then you know I believe my hair and that of numerous others was destroyed from the NO OILS, BUTTERS (NONB) & CURLY CUTS methods.
In the early stages of realizing we had damage, we were all desperately trying to figure out how to repair our hair on our own. We had to do it on our own because instead of the the founders of these methods stepping up to help us they did the exact opposite. Which in my opinion included lots of gaslighting during their LIVES they did on Instagram. I believe they also gaslit us by creating content to convey that what we were implementing to try and repair our hair weren’t necessary products. Such as leave-in and deep conditioner.
Fast forward, now all of a sudden they are saying leave-ins etc are bomb! When many of us feel our hair was in part ruined due to their recommendations of not using leave-ins, deep conditioners or products with oils and butters within the first 5 ingredients.
Since big chopping and adding those types of products back in all of our hair is now thriving!!! So it would be nice if 1. They stopped promoting the NONB method as it currently is structured. 2. If they just admitted they had it wrong and their recommendations to omit certain products and ingredients might be causing severe hair damage. 3. If they stopped playing in our faces by trying to quietly sprinkle in the very things we have used to repair our hair. While also, acting as if they discovered certain brands and products.
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[@mcnissiecharlotte7602]

Move on please...... we've heard your point At this point am bored too We saw the problem and the cause but you keep coming back

[@shelly.v.247]

I’m not going to let you or anyone else censor what I have to say about what happened to my hair and they of so many others!!! So I’ll politely say please remove yourself from my channel and make sure you click the option of “Do Not Recommend” on your way out. 👋🏽

[@Finetextureglow]

The sheep mentality y'all had at the start prevented y'all from giving them this same energy when they snarkily and disrespectfully called KZbin university borderline stupid of doing they hair a certain way Everytime I encounter comments like yours i sincerely ask myself; did any of y'all have the courage to be in they comment section to at least tell them to mind how they spoke ?? Smh

[@rosieamelia5955]

I am certain you are bored, you can block her channel and block mine as well. It’s interesting how you have been trolling Shelly and I . You have made your opinions known, so why are you here??? And for your information this is her channel, this is her journey and she has the right to express herself how she please. NOW if you have a problem don’t watch, you’re bored right 😅 BYE ✌🏾

[@shelly.v.247]

@@mcnissiecharlotte7602 I knew your name sounded familiar and I just connected all the dots! So I’m going to set the record straight here because there have been some things you’ve stated about myself and Rosie in these social media streets that’s not factual. 1. If you think BGC taught us how to emulsify K18 you’re dead wrong on that! Did they teach people how to emulsify conditioner and shampoo (which I no longer emulsify shampoo because it’s actually incorrect info) yes they did. However, K18 is a unique product that requires extreme emulsification! K18 has shared the proper way to emulsify and use it via their experts. That’s not a BGC thing. Matter of fact, guess who was the first person to ever ask about K18 in SSC during a live Aishia was conducting in there? ME!!!! And guess what happened? She got mad that I asked because she wasn’t familiar with it and said why are we concerning ourselves with stuff only the “professionals” should know about??? 2. You’ve mentioned before that BGC is trying to make changes and we should give them grace. If that’s the case why have they not done the right thing by truly publicly apologizing and saying hey we had some things wrong? Why do they do continue to do it quietly? Like in a story that disappears after 24 hours? Why not share it in a way where it would alleviate all the confusion so no one else goes through what we have? I’ll tell you why, because the egos are too big over there and they don’t want to have to admit we were right. 3. Next you’ve mentioned before the changes that have been taking place. Guess who figured it out? Rosie, Narada, TamZ and myself! We collectively did that while getting drug and being made fun of the entire time! Not to mention, the only reason they even know there were issues and how to fix them is because we have continued to speak up! So let me get this right. You don’t want to hear our thoughts about how traumatic this all has been but yet you’ve been open to hearing how we’ve been repairing our hair and getting it back healthy. Btw, haven’t you said that you’ve benefited from what we continue to share by stopping the botanical gels and adding back in leave-ins! Play that back and listen to how it sounds. It’s sounds like you’re okay with watching our content as long as it benefits you. It also sounds like agree with the stylist in my video which is honestly very hurtful. Lastly, it’s not ok or very nice to tell anyone who feels victimized that you’re bored and for them to stop sharing their traumatic experiences! Where’s the compassion Sis? I just don’t understand it but I’m honestly glad I don’t. 😑

[@mcnissiecharlotte7602]

​@shelly.v.247 you are wrong shelly... I didn't say that BGC are the ones that taught you how to use or emulsify K18 I simply said they were the ones that really pushed the idea of emilsifying products even before K18 and you 2 want to steal that from them 2ndly.......I didn't stop using botanical gels cause of you or Rosie It was my own experience with the humidity in Uganda where I live and I don't even live in central Uganda. So I thought I would use botanical gels but turns out northern Uganda is so humid too cause Arua my town is so close to Congo and the Congo basin. I really never liked doing my hair without the leave ins so some content creator like @BrittanyMia who I really follow religiously cause she's been open minded and practical about the way she used the information from BGC made me pick up the leave ins again after just about a month of not using them I think the problem is you're trying so heard to make a point and have an argument with me about the comment I left but it was never meant to hurt you❤❤❤

[@AfrikanHairGod]

I assure you after the truth came to light... I know Aishia been using leave ins and oils regularly to help repair her damage. After she had to publicly admit that her hair was indeed damage, after my video reaction of her and everyone shining the light on her hair. Now she's experimenting and trying to do anything she can to make her hair look like anything other than a fuzzy dry bush. Trust, she's low key watching and taking our advice, that's why she's using that Redkin treatment you recommended 😂

[@kurlykpopfan8111]

Love your channel! I just wanna say thank you to you as well for always shedding light and exposing these hair "trends" and how detrimental they can be for all of us natural haired folks. Keep doing what you're doing!

[@AfrikanHairGod]

@@kurlykpopfan8111 thank you so much for being such an awesome supporter. I am happy to have been a voice of clarity and understanding in this role of misinformation and lies and deception... 👀 #funshade 🤣

[@shelly.v.247]

Yup! 🤣🤣🤣

[@naturalcurls4life576]

I second this comment completely!

[@CoilyCode]

@@AfrikanHairGod 😂😂😂 a total read

[@SheReaDelSol]

Telling someone to "stop being negative" when you can just unfollow/unsubscribe is crazyyyyy 😂😂😂😂.

[@shelly.v.247]

Right! It’s wild! Just keep scrolling or hit unfollow for that matter! 🤪

[@leshcamp7281]

SheRea it's how they used to come for you and your followers in the comments just because we wanted to use oils and butters. It needs to be studied because it was insane how extremely adamant they were. Fully cussing people out.

[@SheReaDelSol]

@@leshcamp7281 Everyone has amnesia now 😂😂😂. Years ago, someone even tried to cuss me out on my own live over this. When I said "I actually don't care what y'all do. Why do you care about me? There's no ONE way to care for natural hair" she didn't have a leg to stand on. I still stand on that today. I wonder where all these women are today 😂😂. They been so quiet lately 🙃🙃🫠🫠🫠.

[@MissTeaq]

Seriously NASTY work!!

[@tbev58]

I’m a 60’s baby and I didn’t care what nobody said. I’m using grease and oils on my hair. In 60 years never hurt my hair 😂😂😂. I only follow influencers to a certain point! Thanks Shelly for your posts.

[@christines1821]

I’m using grease as well

[@NeeHardy]

Same here ❤❤❤

[@lizjo7213]

Preach ❤😅...me too...

[@shelly.v.247]

And I bet your hair is healthier than all the hardcore NONB fans combined! 😆

[@303zuri]

We need oils and conditioners

[@JunePolk-o3r]

I never bought into the no oils /butter and curly cuts method! The one stylist who is the first and the guru is Anthony Dickie! My hair has grown and thrived because of the knowledge that he imparts❤

[@shelly.v.247]

I love hearing that Sis! You’re so lucky‼️💖💯

[@AltraTara]

This is scandalous. And the “specialist’s” own hair is dry and hay-like and she doesn’t even acknowledge it. She needs a big chop.

[@shelly.v.247]

So scandalous‼️💯

[@DanteVelasquez]

I was a hairstylist and I have 3B curly hair. I have NEVER liked curly cuts because 1) some people's curls do not always curl up the same in every situation so when its washed and restyled it can be mishapen, and 2) you can never wear it straight. Whenever I cut curly hair of any tightness or texture I cut it like I would cut any hair so that it could be worn however someone might want to wear it. I have also never understood the people who touted no oils and butters. In Africa and Asia people have been using oils and butters for CENTURIES, and these are some of the most impressive and healthiest heads of hair we still see today (excluding chemical processes). Shame on these people for putting profit over the well being of others.

[@shelly.v.247]

Yes bingo Sis! Not to mention Indian oiling practices seem to have their hair dang near to the ground! 😍 I’ll never understand curly cuts or the no oils and butters mess ever again either! I feel like they are just money making gimmicks. 💯 Thank you for sharing your thoughts and insights!! 🥰

[@EtherealSolana]

European people complain about oily hair. Africans and Indians embrace that oil 😂

[@Trinsfablife]

I don’t know her hair always looked dehydrated as heck to me… glad you’re spreading awareness! Your hair looks bomb!! ❤

[@christines1821]

Right I was like but wait did gyal head look well dry and she telling people to use nothing on their hair, then to make it worse she’s now like oh well I was wrong knowing she had a full head of hair and people have shaved theirs off, truly disgusting

[@shelly.v.247]

Thank you so very much Luv! I can’t believe I fell for it when all I had to do was look at her head 👀🫣

[@nicolesnotebook]

That is so unfair and mean. Why the heck are people trying to police how you deal with such a sad situation? You’ve never been rude or disrespectful. You’re just sharing what happened to you 😢 thank you for making these 🩷

[@shelly.v.247]

I’ve learned that these social media streets ain’t nothing nice! Especially if you have a difference of opinion on any given thing. 😝 I hope my videos have been helpful to you or someone you know! 💖🙏🏽

[@LivingInTheShade]

The curl "specialist" is getting on my nerves if she didn't like your content, don't watch! And BGC what a turn mouth, her hair always looks dry. Shelley you're doing great and you look fantastic!

[@shelly.v.247]

Aww thank you so very much Luv! 💖🤗😘

[@cscottlvn2]

Does she feel like her hair NEEDS a leave-in? Because she said she can't wait to do this again! This after her telling the natural hair community that we do not need leave ins. Not her flippantly stating "I was wrong, ha-ha"! Wow wow wow.

[@shelly.v.247]

Exactly!!! It’s unbelievable yet very believable if you’ve been following this whole situation right! 🫣

[@ViaVena]

She also been doing twist outs with leave in and cream. And two key members of BGC team Alissana and Aleise left. 🤔 Not sure what's happening there.

[@shelly.v.247]

@@ViaVenaAnd Keya one of the BGC/SSC mentors sewed her locs back in. I wonder why? 🧐

[@katirisherman9169]

Now shes gonna be like "seal with an oil!!"

[@shelly.v.247]

@@katirisherman9169 I wouldn’t be surprised 🤣

[@ralynch1]

Girl,you keep sharing your message and forget these ridiculous people. They have the choice to unsubscribe.

[@Cocobarbie342]

This might seem weird to say but currently I’m in a high control religion. There’s been a lot of problems with the leadership lying and there’s a culture of forcing people to keep quiet and any criticism is framed as anti rhetoric. People are told to leave “quietly”. I see a lot of the same gaslighting and silencing tactics being used in the BGC space. Unfortunately, I think this is a harsh reality of cultish spaces and following it’s far easier to blame those who are hurting than having deep reflection and understanding what role you played in wrong doing. Example in my high control religion there has been very strict rules and we were told not to leave the path but then these very rules get changed all of a sudden leadership will claim that these teachings were never taught or enforced. You are doing an amazing job Shelley and standing strong and being a voice for many other women. I am so proud of you and wish I had this kind of strength when it came to the space I’m in.

[@shelly.v.247]

Aww Sis that sounds so challenging to go through! I’m Not sure but that might even be harder because religion is involved. I just know I would probably have a very difficult time trying to navigate my way through that. I hope you continue to stay strong through it and advocate for what is right as best you can! ❤️‍🩹🙏🏽 I love how you used it as an example because I can definitely see the similarities in the cult like behavior. People have dug their heels in so deep that their ego would not allow them to come to the table and make it right when that option was still viable. All and all it’s an unfortunate turn of events within the natural hair community. Especially since so many of us are still struggling in this natural hair space. I hope at some point this is all a distant memory. 💖

[@oliviastar3812]

@@shelly.v.247 Once the natural hair forum became a movement and the monetisers took note, the rest became history. Yes, can definitely see the cult-like status many have achieved as natural hair gurus emerged. I once pointed out that a certain 'high level' nat hair guru had edited out a key piece of info on her website's 'About Me' profile, that previously laid claim to her hair-heritage being from Cherokee origins, and was kinda shocked when I got a vitriolic response from one of her fans who came for me in the comments section. It never seemed to enter her head that their demi-god good ever be disingenuous enough to do such a thing. Don't even get me started on the whole texture hierarchy thing. Have unsubscribed from many a once promising YT'r.

[@smharris6732]

Its shameful to see after you, Rosie, Tammy and others reached out and even voiced your experiences and frustrations that it was met with egotistical ears and still receiving backlash. You and many others like myself suffered soo much with this "method". Thank you for speaking out bc I had to completely tweak this approach in cleansing and styling my hair and incorporated back oils, hair grease (Thank you Afrikan HairGod), leave ins. Thank you specifically Shelly for standing firm and not making ignorant responses deter you from doing so. I know its a lot to endure. You're a beautiful, witty and personable woman and I love that during my hardships with my hair, I found your posts and advice to help me through it. 🙏🏾

[@shelly.v.247]

Aww thank you so very much for your kind words Sis! 🥹💖 I’m so sorry that you have fallen victim to these methods as well. It’s definitely not an easy thing to get through! So for them to not offer help once questions and concerns were raised is still bothersome. Also, for the stylist who came for me for continuing to advocate against these methods in my opinion is just as bad! If they can continue to heavily promote their methods then I think it’s only fair for us to be able to discuss our stance on them! 💯

[@LuvlyBliss147]

I went through the whole black girl curls method. I even was a model once during their training for cut it kinky. I had a stylist who could cut hair really well who followed them and was trained by them, but I never listened to them about their ways of caring for my hair because it never felt good. When I returned for a cut again, my stylist would say your hair is so beautiful. Little did she know I was still using a leave-in and butter or oil sometimes and deep conditioning weekly. She could never detect it as they claimed while shampooing.

[@shelly.v.247]

@@LuvlyBliss147 Sis shut the front door! For real??!! Ugh I so wish I could go back in time because I remember inside of See Some Curls them saying the oil can stain your hair where all you can do is cut it off. Otherwise it won’t ever curl! I wish I was more like you and had not followed that mess! 😩

[@LuvlyBliss147]

@@shelly.v.247 Yes!! I joined their first group (it wasn’t named See Some Curls) in Jan. 2019-you know as that whole it’s a new year and I will do better with my hair based on their methods. I just could not fully do it. However, I loved that they were training women to cut natural hair and product tips. I have the Wash Your Damn Hair e-books and all. Nonetheless, if you search within Anthony Dickey’s advice videos, there is one about oils and butters 2018 or 2019. It was me who asked him about butters and oils (he gets a bit snarky because he thought I was against them), but it was early on that I started see their videos pop up and seeing possible good results from other ladies omitting them. I was curious what his thoughts were as a stylist too. So I tried following them, but I kept Dickey’s advice the back of my mind-always. Like I said my stylist, I found could cut hair really well (before being trained by them for a tapered cut or a basic trim)-she’d shampoo and condition based on their ideology about natural hair and my hair would feel like a bag of corn chips-crunchy and dry day or two later. Plus, I never liked how they would convince ladies to leave with their hair style the way they did it like ramen noodles. Instead of running a brush through it to pull the curls together. What cause me to not follow any longer was the group. They were nasty in their and would allow ladies to upload like a naptural85 video and make fun of what she would put in her hair or other ladies who used oils butter or was doing too much. I complained via a DM message that I didn’t like that type of behavior similar to a regular Facebook group- they said they allowed the banter for fun (in so many words). I couldn’t continue to pay for that. BUT WEs ALL FREE NOW!! 😁

[@ArethaRenee]

@@shelly.v.247 Too funny. I always kept using coconut oil, and my stylist has never spotted it lol.

[@123leahm]

Wow, I'm so sorry you guys went through this. This is scary stuff. I'm on a 4c hair growth journey, and have allowed a stylist to touch my hair twice in the last 30 years. Your hair looks beautiful. Praying that your hair returns to where you want it to be🙏🏿

[@shelly.v.247]

Oh wow! I don’t blame you! And thank you so very much! 🥰😘

[@camillecarr-yb3ln]

Yep. I’m back to the LOC method. Cuts in straight hair. I remember her saying you “don’t need a leave in if you are washing and conditioning regularly.” If you watch her tutorials she would shampoo, conditions and go straight into gels. Now she me saying she using leave in with no real acknowledgement to you and Rosie. She has NO INTEGRITY! Keep speaking up.

[@shelly.v.247]

I’ve been using the LOC method too and my hair loves it! Yeah zero acknowledgment or compassion for any of us. It’s so disheartening really. 😝

[@tonyabarber7786]

Since I have nothing nice to say about the two of ‘them’, I’ll just focus on the positive. Your hair looks amazing! 😍 After all you’ve been through, it’s so good to see your hair (and you) thriving on this new journey. Keep speaking out because it’s definitely not in vain! 💜

[@shelly.v.247]

Aww thank you Sis! I appreciate your kind words. Thank you so very much! 💖🤗😘

[@rosieamelia5955]

Yes FACTS once she keeps talking we are going to keep talking. We are the longterm receipt and people need to know what that looks like. There was so much bullying done since this all transpired in an effort for us to stop sharing our experiences. Again if you are privy to BGC newsletter you can clearly see this whole push to collect your coins. It’s Very Clear that KZbin university was ahead of the class in how to care for our natural hair.

[@shelly.v.247]

Yup‼️💯 If they can continue to promote them then we should be able to share our experiences with them! It’s like seeing someone use a particular wash and go combination in their hair. I need to see how it lives in the hair. Are there any downsides to using it? Does it leave flakes? Does it make the hair dry? There’s no difference in this because people need to know the possible negative or positive long term effects! Plus truth be told, this is all still very relatively new. We barely finished putting together all the pieces to even know what was happening and had happened to our hair. Not to mention, we all just big chopped or had to get the hair shaved completely off! So to tell us to get over it already is just insensitive and insulting to what we have endured! 🙁

[@shamekabenjamin8010]

Lmfao… sis… did she really just play in our faces?????????? 😮😂 Stay on they neck Shelly V!!!!!! Someone please send this video to African Hair God…👀👀👀👀👀👀

[@shelly.v.247]

Yes exactly! It’s just too much!!! 🤪

[@MissTeaq]

I saw AHG in the comment section, so he’s seen it.

[@tammymoore8804]

God bless you Shelly! There are 1,000s of woman that have figured out their hair because of you, Rosie and Narada. We are attached to our hair and having to cut it because of damage is so traumatic and emotional. No one can put a time limit on grieving. #10toesdown

[@shelly.v.247]

Amen Tammy! I’m not going to lie my feelings were hurt that I was basically told to suck it up and get over it. Meanwhile it’s going to take me 2-3 years to hopefully grow back my hair provided I don’t have any more setbacks. 🥺🙏🏽❤️‍🩹

[@anonymousgirl799]

@@shelly.v.247 No, it's not going to take that long...Eat well, do as little to your hair as possible, excercise, it will bounce back in a year's time. I ordered Chebe Butter, and I'm already seeing a difference in my hair.

[@shelly.v.247]

@@anonymousgirl799Thank you Sis for the words of encouragement! I’m going to research that butter. 🥰

[@gggreene73]

I appreciated you sharing your journey. It never came off like complaining to me. It felt like you were frustrated and trying to solve a mystery. I was/am here for it.

[@shelly.v.247]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it! I just want to help others not go through this and to share what we’ve uncovered. ❤️‍🩹

[@carlapd911]

This is going to be long but I hope to shed light on this . For the stylist to say just move on she has no idea what was really going on with some of these stylists. And while she’s giving Shelly advice to move on , did anyone ever say to the stylists involved that how they were handling this wasn’t right . I too was one of the people affected by this debacle and ended up doing a series of mini chops . When I realized what was going on with my hair thanks to Rosie and Shelly I talked to my stylist about it . The only thing I got was “oh I see what you are talking about “ and was given an Olaplex treatment . The next visit I said I’m using leave ins now and was told ok but just so you know I’m not doing that with my customers . From April to Nov 2023 no additional help , no recommendations only one olaplex and one k18 treatment but I was going every 8 weeks with a taper cut. Fast forward to October I say I can’t take this anymore and ask to start doing mini chops . At no point during this time as the professional did they ever suggest or recommend me cutting more off given the condition of my hair . I had to ask and even then asked me if I was sure . Go back in December and I say cut 3 inches again , somehow the cut become botched and the stylist says I think we should stop cutting now because it’s going to look boyish 😩😩😩…let’s be clear only one person had the scissors . Proceeds to recommend I let it grow for awhile . Now why that be the recommendation when it’s clear it damaged beyond repair , it’s not going to grow it’s going to get worse , this is what’s really going on that the curl specialist don’t know anything about . And to add to the gaslighting the bill was reduced by $100 without me asking however no explanation was provided at all for the reduction in price. And for those wondering did I say anything in that visit I did not because I knew it would go left very quickly based on my emotions in the moment because if I had acted it was not going to be a professional conversation . It should be noted at this visit a deep conditioner was also used on my hair but prior to that when I mentioned it at other visits was told it wasn’t necessary . That was my last visit ever , never said another word to them cause I knew I was getting ready to effect those coins . And imagine having them them reach out me after 4 months of not returning “ to check on me personally and that it wasn’t professional check in and wanted to make sure I’m okay” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Is that so, GTFOH !!!! And said stylist has also implemented leave ins in their own hair but it’s something wrong with the consumers ? If you made it through this long comment I just wanted to share there is nothing wrong with Shelly , cause they way they did some of us is WILD. I have since found another stylist who can cut straight or curly and I have since cut all the damage off and can now focus on the health of my hair

[@shelly.v.247]

Ugh I hate that you had to endure all of that! So funny because they love to say they can identify damage while it’s curly but can they really truly assess it? For you to have to push for a proper cut is crazy! Sounds like your previous knew that your hair needed to be dang near shaved once she got into the cut. She must have felt all the blood leave her veins when she realized it was probably due to the method & products she was pushing. Hence that quick impromptu $100 discount 🫣 I’m glad your hair is finally on the road to recovery Sis! None of us deserved to go through this and all the insensitive mud slinging has been almost unbearable at times! 🥺❤️‍🩹

[@tbev58]

You had something to say sis😂 thanks for sharing

[@carlapd911]

@@tbev58 🤣🤣 I guess I did , I mainly wanted to share because I think that stylist who criticized Shelly think it’s only about Aishia , it’s plenty more if then doing the same . Thank you for reading ❤️

[@Gem-n-life]

I talked about my experience with a stylist for five years 🤣. I had to start my natural hair care journey all over again, and I’m still trying to learn my hair again. This is my crown, and probably the first thing people pay attention to when they see me.

[@kaylabean3693]

It’s really crazy to me how someone would go out of their way to spread misinformation about our hair. If you don’t follow trends that’s great, but for people who trusted a stylist’s opinion, thats sickening and I saw that she was the pinned comment trying to silence you, on YOUR channel, the NERVE of people like that. I’ve big chopped my hair four times, and the third time was because a stylist heat damaged my hair and that level of devastation is unreal and then she tried to sell me bundles. So yes, we can talk about shady people like this as much as we want. We can talk about it until our hair grows to our waist😅those kind of people knew exactly what they were doing, they’re just mad that their bags are being compromised and the truth is coming out

[@Iamcrookedrib]

Many of these stylists don’t have customer service or communication skills. Some of them have low vibrational energy and I would never let a person like that touch my hair even if they are great stylist. Energy transfers. Who’s going to pay upfront legal fees to bring a law suit? She’s clearly not a lawyer. It would be hard to sue CIK or BGC for damages because you would have to quantify your loss in dollars to have a case. And those losses better be greater than the legal fees you put out in the first place. How dare that stylist minimize your trauma and how you are processing! Maybe she should just unfollow you. Why didn’t she take her own advice and just keep her opinion private and keep it moving? No one has the right to minimize or mute your voice

[@shelly.v.247]

I refuse to have my voice muted. I make videos outside of this topic but when new developments arise, then I reserve the right to share it. It’s just a shame it’s gotten to this point.

[@cheryll.g.6958]

Here's the thing. I, for one, have no horse in this race. I tried the method, but was fortunately not as affected by it as so many others. I've never been an oil or hair grease fan, either. I choose to keep my hair short and graying, and I love that for me. But, I'm still Team Shelly, Rosie, Tamz, and Narada! It's not right to attempt to denegrate others' experiences, even though it's not yours. You all are attempting to be a bright light and a haven to others who may be experiencing the same thing! Just because it hasn't happened to one, doesn't mean it's not happening to others. You could choose to bypass the videos if it's irritating to you or be encouraging to others, even though that hasn't been your own experience. Keep doing what you feel is right. It is! ❤

[@shelly.v.247]

Aww thank you Cheryll! 💖🤗. You’re to right in saying all that you stayed. You don’t have to have gone through it to show compassion to those of us who have or are still in the throws of it. Also, if you don’t care to hear about it simply say no thank you and go on to your next video. 😅 I feel as long as they are still promoting this method. We need to still create awareness around it. For example, it’s honestly been shocking to me, just how many people didn’t realize she is using leave-ins again. It may sound silly to some but it’s a pivotal part in this conversation. So I thank you for your support and understanding as we continue to navigate our way through this difficult period. ❤️‍🩹🙏🏽

[@mrslyney1121]

The curl specialist who you showed makes no sense. At a point no one knew exactly how the method was destroying your hair . Now there are some clues - over washing with strong clarifier and removing all oils. With a lawyer and courts you need proof or multiple people having the same complaint . It actually works to your favor now to continue to talk about it - so more people will come out with similar complaints . Not to say you will sue.

[@shelly.v.247]

All of what you just said ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

[@sheenab6253]

THIS PART!

[@lilbaby245]

Thank you. This whole thing where folks thinks it's easy to sue is ridiculous. This would have be a class action and then you have to most likely name multiple plaintiffs in this. This situation isn't that simple OR CHEAP!!!

[@natashafeatherstone9681]

Keep sharing, Shelly! You've got supporters! The no oils, no butters, and no leave-ins community still exist. As such, those that were negatively impacted should continue to share the experiences.

[@shelly.v.247]

Yes! Thank you! I think as long as they are promoting it we should be able to discuss it too!!!

[@Jen_ell]

This is the first time I’m hearing about this detox and the subsequent issues. I “left” watching the natural hair community videos a few years ago after I felt like things became too trendy, strict, and complicated. Haircare should be easy, simple, and full of love. With that, I am so glad that you’ve addressed it. It made me aware of the issue just in case someone I know starts telling me about a hair detox they are ABOUT to do lol 🫣 Great video!

[@shelly.v.247]

Exactly!! 🤣 See we saved another head! 😂 In all seriousness Sis, I don’t blame you at all. I wish I hadn’t listened to the “professionals” and continued to do what I felt was best for my hair. 😅

[@moreanita8]

For those of us who went natural back in the late 90s/early 2000s, all of this stuff feels incredibly complicated and convoluted. We had very little professional help back then, so we had to get to know our own hair. There isn't a one size fits all with hair. Most of the products folks rave about my hair hates, and that's been since my relaxed days. if you know you have healthy hair, that's been thriving for years, don't change a thing. Where I live we tend to have brutal winters. Combine that with radiator heating, and my hair would look like tumbleweed if I didn't use leave-ins, deep conditioners, and oil. I'm glad they got to the root of the problem.

[@jdbailey442]

One of my friends' hair got damaged from this janky method. I never trusted not using a leave-in underneath and not using deep conditioners. I hate that she ruined so many people's hair and gaslit them!

[@shelly.v.247]

Aww I feel so bad for your friend! ❤️‍🩹🥺 You on the other hand are so lucky Sis❣️🙌🏽🥳

[@christinam81]

Every time you have to look in the mirror and see where you are now, you’re going to be reminded of what you went through and continue to go through. People who have been through any type of trauma are going to need to talk about it. That’s why we have therapists. I know I talk ad naseum to mine. And when I’ve discussed something enough, then I let her know that we can move forward to something else. But that is left up to me. Girl, let this be your therapy. I appreciate you sharing what you’ve gone through and no, it does not get old. Don’t let anyone try to shut you down.

[@shelly.v.247]

So very true! That’s honestly how I feel. It’s very therapeutic to share what happened. It’s also very therapeutic to know I might save others from going through this horrible experience! So thank you for recognizing it and voicing it on my behalf Sis! ❤️

[@biancam2327]

I did a mimi big chop to a short bob about three weeks ago, my hair was still breaking and continued to have mid-shaft split ends. On Friday, I went to my stylist and we just cut it all off. I was looking back at pictures and my hair was so healthy when I just used olive oil and a leave in conditioner with a little bit big of gel. I just got tired of oil getting in my pillows and sheets, which is why I resorted to trying that dumb method, plus I never used oil when I had a relaxer back in thr day as well. Oh well. Back to using my raw oils, co washing more and just leaving it alone. One great thing about natural hair is it's grows back super quick!!

[@shelly.v.247]

I’m sorry this has happened to you too! It’s crazy when you’re going through it and your hair is acting like you don’t know each other at all! 🤪 However, once all the damage is gone it’s so freeing! 🙌🏽 Here’s to healthy hair, hair grease and all the oils and butter rich products my hair can absorb❣️😍🤣🥳

[@brynda2150]

I'm not bored with it. Keep spreading the word. Thanks for the update. ❤

[@shelly.v.247]

Thank you! ❤️‍🩹🙏🏽

[@antisocialist2244]

That blonde BGC, her hair is so crispy 🔥

[@shelly.v.247]

Right!!! 👀🫣😆

[@shelly.v.247]

Right!!! 👀🫣😆

[@cypressjones4757]

Thank you for the information, sometimes you have to continue to fight the fight

[@shelly.v.247]

Yes indeed Sis! ❤️💪🏽

[@lilbaby245]

Greetings! This one is going to be long. My apologies in advance. I've been in the background of this entire debacle (if that's the proper word). I remember BGC back when I was growing my hair out after sustaining heat damage throughout the majority of my head resulting in a big chop (listening to that Cyngirl took me there). I was okay with the washing your hair doctrine, because I personally had a horrible reaction to conditioner only washing one too many times for me to never want to do it again. Also, I have dandruff so washing my hair made sense. What was aslo pulling me in was the short wash day sessions. To find a method where I wasn't in my head all day pulled me in. What I couldn't get into the was the no oils/butters etc. When you know the reason for us even adding oils, butters, etc. you know what they're talking about is completely wrong. We add oils/butters, etc. to the hair, because the natural oil secreted from our scalps takes longer to travel from the root to the end, because of the spiral nature. Or for some, the oil doesn't even leave the scalp. It sits there. So without that oil, our hair gets dry. The ends don't slide past each other so knots form quickly and badly and all that friction creates a mess. What made me turn off from them officially was a comment made by the other one, Aeleise, when she said something in the frame of 'It's just hair and if you damage it that's fine you can cut is off and it grows back.' I said to myself, "Aha! Now I know why you have to approach and ideas you have." These people aren't about caring for your hair. They aren't even in the business of producing healthy hair. They are about making $300+ per head for stylists from naturals. Fast forward years later, I see these women have created a crisis and won't back down from it, because they've made money teaching these stylists to maim their clients for $300+ every other week in some cases. Only for the very person preaching this method and who needs ALLLLLLL of the oil/butters, etc., because her hair is bleached to no end to say, "Oh my bad. You do need a leave-in." That's b.s. Now you want to say some oil/butter is good for the hair now? Why? Is it because your hair didn't look as dehydrated as it usually does? Are we now going to start seeing add leave-in before botanicals gels in content now? I do thank you all (Rosie, Narada, etc.) for bringing this to the light. Folks need to hear and see this content if they're thinking about going down that road. I was happy to listen to my gut and continue what I've always knew from YT university from OG natural hair YTers. Also, I've gotten back with a professional, because I do color and bleach (I'm a red/merlot head). So I'm careful to make sure my hair stays hydrated, moisturized, and routinely trimmed on top of keratin treatments. And thanks to ya'll, I've started back to adding oil to my hair and I've seen a difference in the slippage. Kudos to you all. Keep up the good work.

[@shelly.v.247]

Imma just drop the mic 🎤 and walk away because you said a word right here Sis!🚶🏽‍♀️🎤💯

[@Phistea86]

This is the truth right here!!! So, do you do trims on stretched hair? I'm looking into this for my girls who I've done the method on and has damaged their hair. Also, what are the keratin treatments you do please? My hair stylist friend was recommending them for my daughters who have mixed ethnicity hair Caucasian and Jamaican

[@lilbaby245]

@Phistea86 I actually go to a stylist at my local Ulta. They offer a keratin treatment that's designed to control the frizz. And when my stylist does my trims, she does them on straightened hair. She cuts my hair in layers. I think that's what I'm seeing from people who say they don't like their hair shape after it reverts from the cut. Their stylist may have not consulted with them on how they like to wear their hair when it reverts. So they don't trim or cut in a manner that's advantageous to that.

[@LizLo513]

Thank you for your transparency throughout your hair journey. I initially began following you on social media because our hair texture and curl patterns are similar and I was looking for guidance. I too followed these destructive hair methods and your videos helped me understand the changes I was seeing and seek out professional help. I added back leave in and deep conditioners and after several cuts and intermittent breaks from wash and gos, I’m beginning to recognize my hair again. Thank you for everything you’re doing. I cannot imagine what it’s like being under public scrutiny, but please know your efforts and the positive impact they have supersedes the negative.

[@shelly.v.247]

Aww thank you friend! 🥹💖 I’m not gonna lie, I felt nervous butterflies in my stomach when I uploaded this video. I don’t want to come off as negative but it’s so important that people are aware of the gaslighting, flip flopping and insulting and insensitivity out in the community regarding this situation. So I feel compelled to continue to share what the possible consequences of following these methods can lead to. Especially since they continue to promote them. 💯

[@sheenab6253]

Girl, don’t feel bad for speaking about it again. We are HUMAN. It’s our hair. That’s a big component of our culture that has been negatively impacted by another black woman’s miseducation and lack of due diligence. Accountability and self reflection seems to be a life lesson missed on their part. *These women also have a common denominator (or two) but I digress.* Keep speaking YOUR truth in YOUR channel where they are to BLOCK or MUTE your content if it’s so bothersome to them. But that’s too much like right because how will they have more hateful rhetoric to spew if they’re not watching you? Anyway, keep doing YOU. Those for YOU will support you.

[@shelly.v.247]

Thank you Sis! I appreciate your strong words of encouragement‼️💖🙏🏽

[@Theekimpeccable]

I am so glad you’re sharing this message, providing the receipts that ppl need to see and continuing to shed light on something that affected so many women. You know factually how I struggled as well as so many ppl who didn’t have the guts or energy to speak up along with you. What is really bothersome though is the “stylist” who used mean girl tactics to try to age shame and victim blame. The nerve, the gall, the audacity and the ignorance of it is disgusting because despite the light you try to shed on it, this was traumatic for all of us involved. Karma is the one she needs to deal with. Not you. Be blessed love and I’m about to text you right NEOW!

[@shelly.v.247]

Speak on it Sis! I’m still shaking my head at all of it! One thing she had right is I do have ptsd from all of this and I will continue to being awareness on this issue so others don’t! Love you and let me go check my messages 🤗💖😘

[@Vfd270]

I want to thank ALL of you ladies & @africanhairgod that have shared your stories. I started following the method in 2021 with healthy mid back length natural hair. It’s now just below collar bone as a result of ends that just stayed needing to be cut. I started experiencing issues at the same time as you & didn’t attribute it to the method until hearing your stories. I added back in leave ins, deep conditioning, co-washing mid week as needed, and not using AG Boost every wash day. It’s made a big difference. My curls even look different now. I believe I’ve spared needed to do additional major cutting because I caught it thanks to you ladies. Thanks for your persistence & sharing your story. It’s helped tremendously change the trajectory of the natural hair industry. I do still thank BGC for teaching me a little about proper shampooing & how to do a wash n go - I style I always thought my hair couldn’t do. It’s now my only style due to the convenience. Wish they had handled better as I think they meant well…initially.

[@shelly.v.247]

You are so welcome Sis and I’m so thrilled to hear your hair is back on track! ❤️‍🩹🙌🏽 The hard part is I fully agree with the last thing you wrote wholeheartedly! I love that BGC helped many women of color understand the importance of properly and routinely washing their hair. Although that was something I was already doing I realize many were not. I also truly appreciate how they helped so many learn to love their hair in a wash and go. No one can take those things away and we shouldn’t try to. HOWEVER, when we raised concerns they should have met us at the table and helped us troubleshoot, pivot and correct the issues. Instead they did the complete opposite. It’s just unfortunate they wouldn’t put the egos to the side and figure out solutions together. I personally voiced being willing to do the work to make it happen during that window of time. Now it’s clearly too late because the damage is done. 😒

[@esthertjones]

"The curly hair avenger" 💯 Rosie is black widow, you're captain america, narada is iron man, Tamz is Spidey, let's go!! 🦸🏾‍♂️🦸🏾🦸🏽‍♀️

[@shelly.v.247]

Haha 🤣 you just made me laugh out loud over here! 🤣🤣🤣 I love it! Let’s Go‼️😆

[@denyshadials5702]

The word you’re looking for is ‘Assemble’ 😏

[@shelly.v.247]

@@denyshadials5702 Haha no she used the right word Luv because in my video I referred to myself as the “Curly Hair Avenger” 😉

[@denyshadials5702]

@@shelly.v.247 Nah Shelly 😅😀thats what Capt. American says: ‘Avengers assemble’

[@shelly.v.247]

@@denyshadials5702 Ohhhhh gotcha lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@lashandalemua2192]

THANK YOU! For continuing to speak out about this. Don't listen to the people telling you you are spreading negativity. I don't have a youtube platform to share my story, so by continuing to talk about it, you're also sharing my story. Aishia actually did my hair and is still using my pictures. My hair is ruined. It bothered me that she is changing her routine without acknowledging the issue. So, thank you. You're sharing all of our stories. I don't have the courage to go bald, so I'm still enduring. But I've learned so much from you, Rosie, Curly Chemist, and Narada. About to go get the Redken product

[@shelly.v.247]

Ugh I’m so sorry you were impacted too! ☹️ It’s so easy for other people to say stop talking about it unless you yourself have been negatively impacted too! Plus it’s hard to talk about the remedies without hitting on why you have the issues in the first place! I feel for you because I know exactly what you’re dealing with. Just be patient and baby your hair while continuing to slowly cut off the damage. It’ll be better before you know it! 🙏🏽

[@seriouslytho5783]

The BGC IG page was so rude. They even used the word "snarky" in a description of themselves. That woman's hair is atrocious. It's not because it's natural. I got color back in 2020 but didn't know how to take care of it. I big chopped when my hair looked like hers. It wasn't nearly as bad as hers. Just by the look of her hair, I wouldn't have listened to her. I unfollowed. Thanks for speaking up. I went to a Black dermatologist, and she is helping me. I feel myself creeping back into the product wotld. Nope. I'm sticking with Keranique, Nutrafol, and the prescriptions that she gave me. I just saw another video about Mielle, so this has strengthened my resolve to stay away from too many hyped up products. I'm tired of stylists as well. The Dallas area has a Black blowout bar. I'm just going to them quarterly. She used K18 and sent me home with a sample that will last at least 3-4 washes. I thought my curly pattern was looser because it's longer. 3 uses of K18, and my curls are as tight as they were when it was first growing out. I started with a bald fade. I've been big chopping for 30 years, so thankfully, I love a fade, a pixie, and a fro!!!

[@shelly.v.247]

So many great points that you’ve raised! If my hair looked anything even close to hers I’d shave it because I’m convinced her hair is damaged beyond repair. 😝

[@JermaineAuNatural]

It will always amaze me how people can talk about what other people are “too old to do certain s**t” just being the biggest hypocrite. At what age does minding your business kick in? At what age do people make the choice to just unfollow without a speech, comment, story addressing so,etching that isn’t your business to address? At what age do people understand that someone else’s experience especially a traumatizing and time consuming experience, doesn’t have to or need to make sense to you? I’m happy that others you, Jen Jackson, AfrikanHairGod and many others keep the conversation going. As long as they are promoting this mess the counter should be equally as present. We are still a community and the community needs all information on things like this that can deeply affect us. Love the video, love your beautiful hair and editing💚

[@shelly.v.247]

Aww thank you Jermaine! 🥹💖🤗 Yeah I don’t get certain people. This has been very traumatizing but I’m super thankful to have the love and support of friends like you❣️💯

[@unwrittenbylj]

Hi!! This video popped up on my algorithm (thankfully!)- I big chopped 2 months ago due to color damage, and planned to use some of the BGC methods as my hair grows back in. Seeing this info is so surprising as I had no clue folks were having issues with their methods! Do you have recommendations or channel/content recommendations on what alternative methods to use? Here I thought I had a plan but I’m glad to see there’s a different/better way to go! Thank you 🌟

[@shelly.v.247]

Glad I could help! Check out Anthony Dickey. I did a series on his wash and go method. Also, you could just go back to the basics of shampoo, deep condition, use a leave-in and then style. I also add a little oil after my leave-in because it helps hold the moisture from the water in my hair a little longer. I’m so glad this video might have saved you from experiencing what many of us have gone through‼️💖

[@callmechichi1711]

Thanks for being transparent. You have a beautiful smile btw. May your hair continue to thrive after this setback.

[@shelly.v.247]

Awe thank you so very much! ❤️‍🩹🙏🏽

[@gayleendream5073]

Put as many videos as you need to out there. I just recently found your videos and had a close friend who was cutting her hair only when curly and wet. After watching yours and a couple of other videos, I had her come to my home and we washed , conditioned and blew dry her hair. The amount of hair that came out while trying to detangle before was too much but after wash, drying and conditioning it was the exact same. We had to cut 2 inches off. Her next visit, she will do a treatment and then we’ll go from there. Had I not seen your video, I would have not been aware of this to pass on the info. Keep on informing us. And what does you being of a certain age have to do with anything????? #girlyoulookgood!

[@shelly.v.247]

You are a GREAT friend and she is lucky to have you! I’m so happy these videos have helped you and your bestie make informed decisions around your hair care. It’s all about being informed so you can do what’s best for yourself❣️💯

[@Ioiana2]

Just wanted to say thanks for bringing all this to light! It made me reevaluate everything and I realised my length has been stagnant for two years. It seems using gels only was making my ends break off and I wasn’t retaining any length. My hair wasn’t super damaged but it should have been longer. I also have a lot of layers that I don’t really want! Before starting this method, my hair was mid back length, since starting it, it’s stayed at armpit length. I’ve since reintroduced oils and butters and leave-ins. I also don’t do wash and gos anymore - I’m back to twist outs only, as I used to do before. I also don’t know if someone has flagged this but BGC recently sent an email about why she’s not using AG balance 😂 Sound familiar?!

[@shelly.v.247]

You are so welcome Sis! See this is why it’s hard not to continue to share our experiences because otherwise some may not connect the dots. I’m so happy you’ve honed in on what was happening to your hair and have course corrected too. It’s a shame so many of us have had to go through this mess! And girl you know I peeped it out. The fact that she’s taking all the remedies we’ve uncovered and acting as though she figured them out is pure gaslighting at its finest! In my opinion they have zero integrity ‼️‼️‼️

[@Ioiana2]

@@shelly.v.247 the gaslighting is the issue and what is really turning people off. I couldn’t believe my eyes and ears when she started singing the praises of leave-in conditioner 😱 You are so right, they have zero integrity, it’s all about the money. The way they’ve handled this has been terrible and in terms of their reputation in the community, makes them appear less trustworthy. I know I am definitely more sceptical about their advice now! In the end, I think it’s a good lesson to us all to not take any one method at face value, always tailor it to your own needs.

[@Aalayahhh]

I must say, I feel very lucky that this is my first time hearing of this situation! I’m surprised because I was all into natural hair KZbin when the movement was strong, but I mostly followed creators using the loc method (leave-in, cream, oil). It helped my hair grow so much, I’m so sorry yall were given such bad advice !!!

[@shelly.v.247]

You’re so blessed and lucky that you’re hearing about all of this for the first time! I believe these videos are really important to help make sure people are made aware of what could happen should they implement this method. 😢

[@cheryls.booker3336]

Shelly, keep being the avenger! These BCG stylist should be a shame of themselves! Instead of laughing and cursing, they should admit they were wrong, give credit where credit is due, and do better! Just thinking of all the women who have lost their hair because they trusted them, makes me sick.

[@shelly.v.247]

Me too Sis! It’s been a very hard thing to go through 😝

[@Finetextureglow]

Madam A is soon gonna big chop from all the damage i can feel it And watch how she will try to rebrand that as if it wasn't because of damage At this point im tired of all their mess, they are banking on us having amnesia so they can sweep everything quietly under the rug...:im truly tired of them I like that you keep making these videos because tea is tea lol but more importantly there are others who are still for the first time making sense of why their hair is jacked up from following BGC, these videos will definitely help them🎉

[@shelly.v.247]

Thank you Sis! They seem to be trying to make the changes we discovered but they are doing it quietly. Like, only putting it in their stories which disappear after 24 hours. Why not just come out publicly and make a clear statement saying…hey we had it wrong and we are very sorry! Nope, because the egos are way too big for that! It’s just a shame and we got long memories! Thank you for your continued love and support. It doesn’t go unnoticed! ❤️💯😘

[@shayhills9818]

Awww Shelly V I am so very sorry this is still going on. I am sorry that folks are jumping on the BGC’s bandwagon. I too had to cut my hair off as well. I am grateful that I did not have to shave my head. I applaud these ladies who came forward with their stories. I laughed when I saw her saying she was wrong. She should address also why some folks had to big chop or shave their heads!! She was in a video after straightening her hair and her ends were fried. All you can do beautiful is continue to do you!! I love your channel and your humor (able to laugh at yourself as well). ❤

[@shelly.v.247]

Aww I’m so sorry you had to cut your hair too. I hope what we’ve shared to help keep your hair healthy this time around has been useful. ❤️‍🩹 This won’t always be a topic of discussion but these videos will be here for others to find should they ever need them. 🙏🏽

[@TheQueenChanti]

I hate you had to go through this. No, you are not wrong for warning those who may not know about the possible effects of that trend. Keep doing what you do and keep warning the unaware!! Glad your hair is doing better❤❤❤❤

[@shelly.v.247]

Thank you Sis for understanding my feelings about all of this craziness! ❤️‍🩹🙏🏽

[@abbe1abbe156]

I understand that you have some trauma from your experience. Thank you for shedding light on this topic. I miss the early natural hair community because it was just about learning and having fun. Now it’s gone off the rails.

[@50fine]

Agreed, I loc’d in 2002 and the nappy naturals community was such a sister/brotherhood! Good vibes, good info… I’ve cut my locs off this summer. This conversation has me 👀😬….. moving on🤐

[@shelly.v.247]

My pleasure Luv! It’s a shame that it’s taken all of this but I’d hate for anyone else to endure this. So I have continued to use my voice to help make more people aware of everything. 🙏🏽

[@TrishtheNatural]

Great video Shelly… Thank you for sharing your experience and continuing to bring awareness to folks. It is needed. ❤

[@shelly.v.247]

You are so welcome and thank you so very much for your kind words and for watching Trish! 🤗💖😘

[@Iamcrookedrib]

I’m not a KZbinr (meaning I don’t make videos/share content on this platform) but I had to big chop and had the same reaction to the innersence products. Had a whole bald spot 😢. I’m willing to bet there’s a bunch of folx that can relate. So glad you all spoke up despite the bullying.

[@shelly.v.247]

It’s so sad that you were affected too! 🥺 Some don’t want to hear the truth but that’s okay because by sharing out we are able to continue to help each other. ❤️‍🩹

[@RetroMaven71]

Wait a minute...Shelly I've kept up with you and this journey but I missed this. Did you have an adverse reaction to the Innersense gel?​@shelly.v.247

[@shelly.v.247]

@RetroMaven71 Girl yes! 😝 Shortly after implementing all the products that were on that curated list, I started experiencing an itchy scalp. I finally went to see a dermatologist about it and after checking me he said I was allergic to all the botanical gels. Seems like it was pretty common within See Some Curls. 😅

[@RetroMaven71]

@shelly.v.247 oh wow....I had no idea. I've been experiencing some crazy breakage and am trying to pinpoint the cause. Thank you!!

[@a9p6m4]

I thank you all for speaking up! It’s hard to follow a lot of people promoting products and the professionals 👀. When the natural hair came to KZbin that was the realist to me. Once the brands and stuff seen things went down hill.

[@shelly.v.247]

Our pleasure Luv! 💖🙏🏽

[@starmaxx4]

Shelly thank you for sharing! So happy that you and Rosie are starting over again and doing what’s Best for “your” hair 🥰💙

[@shelly.v.247]

Yes! Thank you Luv! We were are excited! ❤️‍🩹🙌🏽

[@starmaxx4]

@@shelly.v.247 🥰🤗

[@shanchip1]

Love you Shelly! I started adding jojoba oil to my hair after deep conditioning and hair has NEVER felt better!

[@shelly.v.247]

I love it! As you know I’ve begun to do the same and my hair feels day and night different! I’m so thankful for this new beginning and I’m excited for you too Sis! 😍💖🥳

[@chanelartist7588]

I'm glad you are speaking out against this. I could not figure out why so many stylist black and white are telling people with 3c 4a hair not to use butters or oils because every time I stop, my hair ends up falling out or burning off from being damaged from gels or other products!!! And this is why my hair can't get past my shoulders because I have to keep cutting it to keep it healthy. 😮Thank you!!! This is what we needed!!! Sulfur 8, Do gro and wild root oil all day now 😂 Thats my magic hair growth secret now!!!

[@shelly.v.247]

I have no clue! Supposedly this method was rooted in science but I think the science is that learned in cosmetology school. As you know they don’t really teach about textured hair in those programs. So I think what was learned was applied as if it can fully work on our hair too. Routinely shampooing. Absolutely! Using a good rinse out afterwards. Yes for sure! But all that other mess is something I don’t understand at all! Oh and the crazy part is they suggest it for all coily, kinky and curly hair textures. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@antiphreeeze]

I love the thought bubble you added when she mentioned suing 😂 It's a shame all the way around. This could have went way different if they took people's claims seriously and investigated.

[@shelly.v.247]

Haha because she put a real thought provoking comment out there now didn’t she??!!🙃 Yeah it’s unfortunate how it’s all gone down for sure! 😝

[@drochellebeauty3284]

Shelly, thank you for speaking up about your experience. While I didn’t completely get on the no oils/butter train, I did use a lot of the recommended products for washing/styling my hair (innersense hydrating hair bath, conditioner and ICH gel and AG care balance shampoo) and I noticed my hair was extremely dry after about four months into using the products. And that was with weekly deep conditioning and using leave in conditioner. I had to cut about 6 inches of hair to get my hair back healthy. So I can only imagine how bad the damage would have been if I was following their method completely like you did. Keep sharing your experience because it has definitely helped us get back on track with our healthy hair goals. BTW your hair is thriving!!!

[@shelly.v.247]

Aww my pleasure Sis! I’m sorry you were affected too! 😒 I have so many questions now about your experience. Shoot I wish KZbin offered DM’s lol 😂

[@LaZainabou]

You're content is informative and given from your perspectiveand experiences...

[@shelly.v.247]

Thank you for appreciating what I’m sharing. This has not been an easy thing to do. I’d rather be making fun wash and go or fitness videos. 🤣🤣🤣

[@DeeDeeKarol]

Shelly thank you for doing this video, my hair became damaged and I had to cut mines, I’m still trying to reverse the damage.

[@shelly.v.247]

Ugh it’s an awful thing to go through. It’s easy for people to say stop talking about it until it’s them right! I’m sorry about your hair and I pray it recovers soon Sis! ❤️‍🩹🙏🏽

[@DeeDeeKarol]

@@shelly.v.247 ❤️

[@SuperNovaNatural]

Thank you so much for sharing your experience. Your hair looks amazing and a great cut too!

[@shelly.v.247]

Aww thank you so very much! I’m loving my cut but most importantly my new head of healthy hair. Thank you Dear Heavenly Father‼️❤️‍🩹🙌🏽

[@BeeGeeTee]

My hair has really suffered using this method as well! I was so confused because I thought I was doing everything right up to that point. 😊 I ended up chopping much of my hair and then started deep conditioning and using leave-ins again.

[@shelly.v.247]

Aww I’m so sorry! It’s so frustrating huh! 😣 I’m glad you were able to figure out what happened to your hair and begin to repair it! We got this and here’s to healthy hair! Cheers 🥂💖🥳

[@rachelk4914]

And the other “A” constantly bragged about having “unicorn” hair that could withstand anything. So imagine her dolling out advice for tight curlies that doesn’t hold well for the majority. I also heard her say out of her mouth leave ins are not needed for wash and gos at one of her workshop/trainings with Innersense all while you all were figuring things out.

[@shelly.v.247]

It’s all the gaslighting for me! How they actively were saying that while we were struggling to figure it all out as recent as this year. Just to turn around and talk about how great they are now. Hmmmmm I wonder why that is! Enter my hair as exhibit A. then go to all the other heads of hair that have added them back in. Why??? Because they make a huge difference and the hair is healthier with them in it! They see it too because they are clearly watching!!!! 💯

[@Jazzerbean]

She may have FINALLY admitted she was wrong but she was totally nasty when people were trying to tell her she may be because their hair was compromised following her methods. She was dismissing people, gaslighting and encouraging people to report the ones who were right. So yeah, she's gonna keep taking these L's for a while. And her followers who supported her or said that this whole thing should be dropped can take some L's too because they were trying to silence people who were negatively affected by the no oils/no butter curly cut business.

[@shelly.v.247]

Yup‼️ And a few of them have jumped into the comments over here and on my Instagram trailer for this video. 😂 The cult still can’t help themselves😝

[@LorenzDominique]

That poor curl specialist is so miserable. 😂

[@shelly.v.247]

She has to be because why even take the time to do all that???😝

[@LoXena]

*Dry ahh hair specialist

[@denyshadials5702]

Exactly. Tell me your books have holes without telling me. I would do a PSA if my wallet coughed too honey.

[@shelly.v.247]

Haha so true!!! 🤣💯

[@Maria-lp3ry]

First, I thought that there was going to be an apology to you and the other women who followed this 30 day detox\ BGC. Then, they pretended as though this was your fault. Now, the lady is basically saying, “Oh well, I made a mistake, you can use a leave in (ha ha). Now, that you had to do a big chop, spent so much money on hair appointments and products to restore the integrity of your hair, but not before you cut it off again. No, keep on talking, keep on sharing the information. It is not you, it is them. I am upset of how they were supposed to be professionals and they didn’t think enough of their clientele to even have a sit down meeting! No, if you have to scream it from the hill top, scream it from the hill top, I ‘m listening.

[@shelly.v.247]

I would be shocked if we ever got an apology from them. Like I’d probably fall over in my chair! 🤣 I just want people to be aware so they can have what I didn’t have at the time and that’s enough information to make a true informed decision 🙏🏽

[@MsJWarren]

Thanks for speaking out Shelly! Your curls are popping 💕

[@shelly.v.247]

Thank you Luv! 💖🤗

[@CoilyCode]

Yet, she spent all that time talking about the "negativity" you are so called spewing. She literally has nothing more to do in her life accept ride your wave of popularity lol. These stylist NEVER cared TWO CENTS about natural hair until we women online made it popular and MARKETABLE. And how she a curl specialist with locs? It’s giving off brand 🤣

[@shelly.v.247]

Haha not “it’s giving off brand!” 🤣 Yeah, I honestly feel like we are dollars to many of these stylist. We unfortunately get taken advantage of coming and going when it comes to our natural hair. I look forward to the days when this isn’t the case anymore! 😒

[@marinahernandez7103]

Wow! And the drama goes on. People should have the right to to express their opinion and experiences how they feel it should be told, without judgement and disrespect.

[@shelly.v.247]

Amen!!! 💖💯

[@jadesiress3382]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge in this video. Your hair is growing back beautifully. ❤

[@shelly.v.247]

Aww thank you Luv and my pleasure! 💖🤗

[@HotCocoBangbang]

Them pockets is feeling it, she's so disingenuous.

[@shelly.v.247]

Everyone keeps saying her pockets are hurting 👀

[@majormediaproductions]

If her azz itch she should go wash it. Im concerned about her mental health 😂 Some people really get off being mean and inconsiderate to others feelings smh. You're doing great on spreading the word❤ Btw do you have video reviewing that Redken shamp/condish? I had no idea that redken was a brand we could use for our hair

[@shelly.v.247]

You literally made me laugh out loud! 🤣 🤣🤣 I don’t have a dedicated video for Redken but I’ve talked a ton about it on IG. I’ll have to make one though. So Redken is awesome because it rebuilds the protein bonds that get broken down from color and just wearing the hair curly. 😍

[@jeanblack5506]

Personally, I appreciate your videos and you sharing your experience. I thought about trying the no oil no butter method at one time, and now I know it's not for me. Thank you. Your hair looks amazing now! So Yes, keep sharing those tips! 😊❤

[@shelly.v.247]

I’m so happy your hair was saved Sis! Knowing that literally makes me know my efforts are not in vain! 😭💖🙏🏽

[@truthabovelies]

Wow! I'm thankful I have never tried this method. But if you take a look at that lady's hair that has been pushing that method says it all. So sad for you all.

[@shelly.v.247]

You ain’t ever lied on that one! 👀🫣🤣

[@Listen2me400]

It was the visual for me Shelly. 😂😂😂

[@shelly.v.247]

You know I can’t help myself 👀🫣🤣

[@reginaneal8734]

WOW! So I don't follow many hair influencers and had no idea any of this is going on BUT after a couple curly cuts and a year of wash n gos I was like something ain't right with my hair. I stopped getting curly cuts but need to think about my styling methods now.

[@shelly.v.247]

Yeah it’s been a hot mess Sis! 🤪

[@yuwrenn]

hi shelly, a while after stopping this method and going back to creams and leave-ins in an afro, i had an appointment with my dermatologist, and as soon i said gel, she didnt care if it was humectant or whatever she blatantly said its no good and drying and supported me putting oil (also a dermatitis treatment) throughout my whole head. She also said to not braid it and keep it out, which was the bad advice (white doctor lol). Long story short my single strand knots kept eating up all my new growth, even with healthy hair otherwise. Just too curly. It would grow then when I would trim every few months it would be back to the same length. I am going back to dreadlocks as my only real goal was to put them in long twists since i dont like to restyle my hair often and i have to wash it a lot for my scalp. Doing it myself with interlocking. Two years in an afro with and w/o the "method", vs just 2 weeks with starter dreads again i feel so much better with myself. Wishing everyone here hair THEY love!!

[@shelly.v.247]

I’m so glad you’re listening to your Derm and to what’s best for your hair. No one knows it better than you! Good luck on your loc journey. I know they are going to be beautiful 😍

[@IAmPlaysWithSquirrel]

Word on the street has it that the blonde one recently made fun of your damaged hair on Instagram. I’m so glad I disengaged from them early on, most of their advice and poor attitudes never sat right with me and this video proves I made the right decision. I don’t think it’s possible to be both competent and cruel, and even if it was I would never put up with a mean spirited hairdresser. I can’t trust you to have my best interests at heart if you can’t even treat me with respect. They’re awful people and I’m so sorry they took your money, ruined your hair and refuse to accept responsibility for it. There’s a special place in hell for dishonest people like that.

[@shelly.v.247]

Well first off I’m not surprised that she made fun of my hair being damaged. That’s just the type of person she seems to be like. Second, her making fun of me is basically her making fun of every single person who’s hair has been damaged by her no oils & butters method. At the end of the day I don’t know how she sleeps at night. I would not be able to if I were her. But most importantly, karma never loses an address! Good or bad it never does. So I’m just going to sit back and watch it all unfold!!!

[@triciaworld]

I’m 52 I tried it it didn’t work for me. When I was young natural hair cut short was not in, but now you can wear your hair in a twa and feel comfortable. KZbin helped a lot of ppl with there hair but KZbin also help ruin just as many. It’s hard to navigate such an overwhelming amount of information online now.

[@shelly.v.247]

Yup and that’s why it’s important to use discernment when deciding who to listen to!

[@RoyaltyAC]

There are sooooo many people making videos on the internet. If she keeps seeing your videos it’s because she keeps clicking on them. Not everything is for everyone. And it’s bad vibes when someone thinks they have a say on when someone else “should” be over a bad experience.

[@shelly.v.247]

All of that‼️💯 I don’t understand why people who are bothered by me sharing my experience keep watching my content. It’s as easy not clicking to watch my videos 🤦🏽‍♀️🤣

[@earthyhealz3358]

I lowkey think BCG DESERVES everything she is getting. BCG was the original mean girl now all the sudden she can’t handle it being done to her. BCG on her platform asking people to be nice on the internet when sis has spent years being a hair bully!

[@shelly.v.247]

Yup and I high key want them to admit their method is flawed! 🤣

[@k.karmas1126]

Yeah, I wasn't going to quit using oils and butters. That seemed unrealistic to me.

[@shelly.v.247]

Good thing you didn’t because you might have a taper or shaved head like us and not because you wanted it! Lol 🤪

[@k.karmas1126]

@shelly.v.247 that's so traumatic. I'd be devastated

[@vineandbrancheshaircare]

We have been using oils and butters for thousands of years. If it ain't broke don't fix it! 💚💚💚

[@shelly.v.247]

Preach‼️🗣️

[@nanaeva1]

You have the right to talk about whatever you want to, period! I want healthy hair, not straw dry brittle head full of split ends all the way up the shaft, yes make it make sense

[@shelly.v.247]

Right! I want soft juicy curls that don’t feel all crispy and crunchy to the touch. AND I don’t want my hair split up from the roots to the tips. I don’t think I’ll ever get over seeing my hair like that 🥺🙈

[@pettybetty1791]

Sense* and yes gurl, I would never take advice from someone else who's hair health I wouldn't want for myself. Her hair is dry, straw-like, and lacking a curl pattern. Just no.

[@nanaeva1]

@@pettybetty1791 Thank you sister for the correction and yes her hair was a hideous mess not cute at all and definitely not healthy

[@rachelk4914]

Thanks for continuing to speak out. They are pushing their methods, flip flops nonstop! ❤

[@shelly.v.247]

FACTS‼️💯

[@tinaj163]

I don't care for BGC at all. She always seems very sarcastic! Dry hair!

[@shelly.v.247]

I found her to be very snarky when engaging with the community on her lives. I did not like it at all and told her such‼️😝

[@legsnhipsnbawdy]

Suggesting that suing someone is the solution is a huge jump! Lawyers are not free. Going through the legal process is a ton of emotional labor. Plus, let's be for real, if you do sue, there will be a TON of backlash that you're doing too much. You already got backlash for just making these videos and cutting your own hair.

[@shelly.v.247]

It’d be worth all of that!💯

[@chidenisee]

I cut mine 2 weeks ago. Trying to hold onto a Mohawk but I am already planning on cutting that.

[@shelly.v.247]

It’s ridiculous that this is even happening to any of us! However, I’m sure you look beautiful with your Mohawk and will look even more beautiful as you cut more off. ❤️

[@ensmith210]

Yiur hair looks beautiful!! Thanks for the vid.

[@shelly.v.247]

Aww thank you so very much❣️🥰😘

[@cyd282]

That was a poor attempt on her part in acknowledging that she was wrong. I'm also still not hearing an acknowledgment about how not using a leave in could have potentially caused damage and did cause damage and I don't think we're ever gonna get that. I think it's a backwards way of sneaking in to your clientele that leave ins are not the devil they were made out to be especially in terms of affecting styling outcomes and maximum curl definition. So it's almost like you get to say you should use them but more from a esthetic point of view as opposed to a healthy hair point of view when healthy hair is supposed to be main goal And what a majority of clients sought their expertise for. For me it goes back to how you deliver messages and take accountability period. And if you really are stating you were wrong in regard to the use of leaving conditioners then you need to have a serious conversation about that especially given everything that transpired over the last year or so. As a consumer I would have way more respect for that.

[@shelly.v.247]

Yup exactly‼️💯 To say it jokingly and act like it’s just for aesthetic purposes. Instead of being honest and saying it’s to help hold moisture in the hair is disingenuous. What I find extremely interesting is these people move like we don’t see and know what they are doing. We can easily put two and two together just like you just did. It’s all just so crazy! 🤪

[@ArethaRenee]

I don’t even bother watching BGC anymore. She now does things she said we didn’t need to do. I’m glad I never followed her method. Leave-in, deep conditioner, and oils have always been in my hair regimen. What a joke!

[@shelly.v.247]

@@ArethaRenee That’s the hypocrisy of it all! She’s now using the very things we uncovered as being a vital part of our haircare routine! Btw, She owes KZbin university an apology as well because they had it right the whole time! 🤪

[@shelly.v.247]

A pure joke‼️‼️‼️‼️

[@JG_SmileSOBright]

I've always just used a leave in for daily care and use products for hold. But what I can't wrap my head around, is why anyone, who deals w her own hair everyday, would let someone who's never touched her hair, tell her what's best for her hair? Hair is so personal and unique to each of us. It's almost like letting a stranger, who's never seen you, pick your foundation shade. I wash my hair a few times a week and wet it daily, and no one can tell me that's bad for my hair bc I know my hair...and she behaves best clean (Shampoo), hydrated (Conditioner), and moisturized (Leave In). Don't care how much rhetoric there is about Black hair not needing shampoo regularly. Maybe it's just my Leo energy, but no one can tell me anything about my hair! Except my mama, bc she knows it even better than I do 😂

[@me-pz5yi]

I’m not sure why you can’t have your say. Say it again, we hear you. You’ve got plenty of folks who back what you’re saying up.👀 ❤💯

[@shelly.v.247]

I appreciate that Sis‼️💖

[@cwwaters1]

Do what works for you. It's your experience. Who doesn't like it should stop looking at your videos.

[@shelly.v.247]

Very true and it’s just that simple Sis‼️💯

[@suki73]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾. Thank you for your informative videos

[@shelly.v.247]

You are so welcome and thank you for watching! 🤗💖😘