12 Gauge 2 3/4” Bismuth 1 3/8 Ounce 1375 FPS Reload!

[@Natedawg770]

Absolutely love the bismuth videos!

[@theshotgunscientists]

Thanks man they’re a lot of fun

[@curtiseggemeyer5681]

Great video , as usual. Non toxic is just something we have to live with in certain locals and hunting sites.

[@theshotgunscientists]

Yep

[@raymondbuie5292]

Awesome man! Thank you! Way simple! Can’t wait to see you guys range test it!

[@theshotgunscientists]

For sure man me either

[@bruceschlegel8588]

Never used anything but lead. Because of your video I just loaded bb copperhead bb from tractor supply. We need to see how they work

[@BrockLowell]

Great video brother! For waterfowl I would recommend Dryfire for the primer sealant. Sealing both ends is key. The clear nail polish is perfect for the crimp. I’ve Seen two miss fires this year on buddies factory ammo! First one was a squib round where the shot rolled out the end of the barrel and wad lodged in the barrel and I had to rod it out with a Sapling for my cousin. That was a federal grand slam turkey load on my cousin’s 12ga, costing him a nice long beard at 30 yards. The next was a Migra waterfowl load 3” 1 1/8 BB, with a deep prime strike. I deconstructed that round leaking from the crimp for sure BB’s where rusted and the wad was tight but powder looked like Longshot completely soaked. That Migra round cost my buddy a beautiful black duck at ten yards. Sealing any hunting round is a big deal to me because I don’t know when most of my loads will be shot. If your behind on loading and loading for each hunt like I was last year then fine why bother but it will bite you eventually. I picked up one of my loads last year that got ejected in my boat god knows when. Not wanting to waste the shell I picked it up and put in the box of new shells. The next hunt pulled up on a beautiful drake mallard squib round from that exact shell. Now I start all my loads by sealing the primer pocket with dryfire fist, heads up it smells a bit so well ventilated area is best, then I finish with magic seal aka clear nail polish. Always seal or pay the price!

[@theshotgunscientists]

Good advise there man

[@mikeg9826]

!!!Alliant Steel now in stock at Ballistic Products!!! Saw in one of your previous video's that you only had 2 opportunities in several years to buy it

[@chrismcneil5543]

Thanks for the video! I loaded the same load from the hodgden data and had horrible results. My next step was to add mylar and buffer. Glad to see it's been done. It was just too open so we'll see the difference!

[@theshotgunscientists]

Yep I like tight patterns too

[@chrismcneil5543]

I loaded a few up last night - looking forward to hitting the range this weekend. @@theshotgunscientists

[@harleyironhead7090]

great video as always

[@theshotgunscientists]

Thanks man

[@garyhammond2213]

I learned something today.

[@theshotgunscientists]

Thanks

[@MikeSiemens88]

Rockin' the Lee LoadAll II, love it. Having bought mine decades ago I just started using it in the last few years. It has a cast metal base vs the newer models with plastic. Loading slugs only so far 'cause they're pricey vs other retail shotshells. 525 grain (~1&1/8 oz) Lyman sabot slug, WAA12F114 wad over Alliant Blue Dot powder, Remington RXP tapered hull. Listed fps is 1475-1501 depending on primer. I shot 2 over the chrono & got 1535 & 1843. Ouch! All my scatterguns are pre steel vintage, so the bismuth theme is of particular interest. Good info on tweaking taper hull wads to make them work in straight hull. I don't have that issue as I have a bucket full of Remington/Peters tapered hulls to go thru.

[@theshotgunscientists]

That 1843 fps reading was probably just the wad lol it happens

[@MikeSiemens88]

@@theshotgunscientistsI hadn't thought of that, thx.

[@otroflores91]

Great info

[@theshotgunscientists]

Thanks

[@donaldatkinson7937]

I hate it when my wad gets stuck lol. I've got something for sale on market place, if it doesn't sell by tomorrow night I'm going to mail it to you, Josh and you can figure out who gets it. Nothing expensive, expensive but pretty decent.

[@theshotgunscientists]

Sounds good to me man. Thanks.

[@philipwatzke5198]

Nice waterfowl load,been flaring out gas seal works great learned that from you,what about small piece of wax paper instead of paper towel?

[@theshotgunscientists]

It should work.

[@Mdwaterman]

Being as a lot of companies are mixing 85%steel with 15% bismuth, have you posted a video on this ? Thanks for all the videos, love em

[@theshotgunscientists]

We did a bismuth steel duplex about a month ago

[@arsenioarvanitakis6549]

Great to see guys reload shotgun shells...use wax paper instead of the paper towel it resists heat better than the towel...an old Don Zutz trick.

[@theshotgunscientists]

@@arsenioarvanitakis6549 that’s a good idea

[@victorsutpheniii3374]

Nice video, thanks. FYI, 1-3/8oz is 1.375oz, not 1.3875oz, although 1.4 is fine for a final weight.

[@kylekimmie3643]

I like the videos man they got me starting to reload shells for first time this week one question I have please is I only have the tps 2 3/4 slit wads will they work without using the paper towel to seal powder in most hauls even tapered hauls and also will the challenger hual with the slit 2 3/4 tps wad without paper towel and same long shot powder charge and 1 3/8 ounce bismuth load weight work just fine and use without Mylar wrap thanks

[@theshotgunscientists]

No need to use a paper towel with tps wads, they are meant for straight wall hulls.

[@danielnalepinski3884]

I use a similar loading for ducks with #5 bismuth. Probably the best shell I've used. I'll use #2 bismuth for geese.

[@theshotgunscientists]

Nice.

[@user-iv8hc8fm5o]

Do you have a load for bismuth that does not need wads to be flared? I have a lot of Winchester AA hulls, but I am new to loading shotshells.

[@theshotgunscientists]

There’s plenty out there I can’t think of one at the moment but plenty of data is available

[@ronaldjohnson1474]

It dawned on me that the towel is just another type of paper wad, as has been used for over a century of shotshells (muzzle loaders, even longer).

[@theshotgunscientists]

Kinda yeah

[@pikeandtrout]

Great info/video - as always. Any suggestion on using the LBC43 with bismuth in either 2-3/4" or 3"? You mention the LBC43 but do not use it. Would it work? Thanks!

[@theshotgunscientists]

You’d have to back down the powder charge a little bit but yes it would

[@l.a.3887]

Good stuff

[@theshotgunscientists]

Thanks

[@clks1165]

Will you have a video of testing them?

[@theshotgunscientists]

Yeah we might do that

[@davidmancini2198]

Does the half grain of powder given an extra 50FPS hold true for most powders? Found a 1oz bismuth load that is listed at 7950 psi and 1450 FPS using 27 grains of Winchester Super Handicap. If i bump that up to 27.5 grains can I hit that 1500 FPS mark?

[@theshotgunscientists]

@@davidmancini2198 you’ll see both pressure and velocity go up especially with the fast powders. That psi is really low, I personally would be comfortable bumping it up.

[@clks1165]

Can you use lead shot data? For example , 1 1/4 oz lead to a 1 1/8 oz of bismuth and still have a safe working load?

[@theshotgunscientists]

I’m not sure honestly, I try to use bismuth specific data

[@glendavis9663]

👍👍

[@cameronlamb7274]

I didn’t think you guys got challanger down south. These are made in Canada along with score shotshells I save every hull I find.

[@theshotgunscientists]

We have them for sure. Love that hull color.

[@cameronlamb7274]

@@theshotgunscientists they sell some at Canadian tire branded as Imperial special long range after the oil IVI/CIL shells that are dark blue. In the past challanger mainly loaded red cheddites some of their steel loads were in orange hulls. Now a days that light metallic blue is their main hull they do load some silver and dark green in their steel loads.

[@cpemberton98]

Best 3 inch bismuth duck load?

[@theshotgunscientists]

Working on it