S.CARMAN: IT AIN'T SKILL!

[@jako2405]

FACTS LIVE HERE!!! In my opinion, Evander Holyfield is a great example of somebody whose heart and conviction comes first and then his skills. Which, by the way got him in a little trouble at times.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

True. People have made whole careers off of heart. ARTURO GATTI!

[@52blocksinfo]

To be a great fighter you need both..an thats ring or street..skill an heart

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

I am NOT talking about fighting! I am talking about SELF-PROTECTION. Fighting is a give and take. That is why I remain one of the only TRUE black combative teachers. It is about real life, not moving around blocking and jabbing.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

Now, I can reply. First your philosophy is bent on the mindset of sparring. That is NOT self defense. The reality is most assaults are from the BLIND SIDE, with WEAPONS and MULTIPLE assailants. That is a fact. That is also why real self protection teachers laugh at what people post on you tube calling it "self defense". I spar at a very high level for real in the pocket PRO grade. I do NOT call that self defense. I teach real self protection and it is not sparring. that is another fact. Going one on one has its place, but when people think that means a man can defend against a knife, or a stick is a joke.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

when I talk about head butts or other physical tools, I am just saying ALL physical tools should be used. Understand this about sparring, sparring is a FACSIMILE of whatever we are doing; it is NOT actuality. It cannot be actual because if it was death or major injury could be the result. That said, there is a feeling of safety that people have when they spar and thinking that safety would carry over if someone pulled a box cutter is a danger to anyone. Do I spar? Yes, but I do not make the mistake of thinking that is real training for anything but general motor skills. I am not in the business of ragging on people in particularity those who have always been respectful to me, I also help people "enforce" what they teach by sharing my knowledge with them, but we have to know that the woman who kills a man for beating her is NOT skilled; she has a purpose and mission. That mission comes first and results in death to that man. The same applies to the man who is a wimp to most, but kills a man who attacks his wife or girlfriend. Intention is enforce by the development of motor skills for sure, no argument there. First the bad intentions must be there and the desire to do damage with those skills. "Bad intentions" like Tyson would say. Understand what I said: I said BEFORE technique should be INTENTION. I did not say technique was unimportant. I have it and work hard to teach and develop it.

[@lrwhiteley]

salaams ahki dont forget about cotto also. excellent video. good work. ma salaam

[@jkrisanda2011]

Preach!

[@SuperMurray2009]

Hey Sayf Carman it's funny you ended with the unothrodox fighter beating better fighters. I actually forgotten about alot of these fights because there haven't been many as of lately. I love to see it happen because I can't stand it... for the simple reason that the pressure fighter always end up ending their career in a bad manner unless their name is a Rocky Marciano

[@kennylopezjeetkunedo5555]

This is a very broad topic and it depends on what you're talking about. It is true that power and precision is important, can't debate with that. But skill isn't just perfectly thrown right hands though. Skill can be footwork(because even stepping the wrong way or doing the wrong movements can effect you, and the last thing you want to do is be off balance in a fight, this is why perfect practice is important because the small details matter) timing, precision, vision awareness etc. etc. if we're talking about boxing, requires skill on all the points that were made , but if we're talking about fighting, than you have 4 different combat ranges now and coordination, timing, precision, and science come into play and whether you're applying the right concepts to that specific style you're training in using unrehearsed movements after doing the correct drills(and doing it thousands of times) so many times to develop those areas. IMO...and this is how I was taught...technique is the most important thing first. Being able to move in and out correctly using the right mechanics and being able to parry(deflect punches) correctly and doing all of that before you work on the power and precision aspect. Because without that, you'll look sloppy in sparring even if you do have more stamina. Power and Precision is something I moved on to after I got all the basic's first and knew what I was doing, than I focused on power and precision while working on other areas.(If I didn't do my footwork correctly or my basic upper body techniques correctly, my teacher didn't move me on because he wanted to make sure I knew what I was doing and that's where a good teacher comes into play) And even now, I still try and get more power and precision using the correct mechanics and not limiting myself to 1 area of doing things since everything is always changing from milli sec to milli sec. Some people will tell you people are born punchers and I believe that's that's true but power can be developed if you're doing the right mechanics and movements which will depend on where you're getting your knowledge from. But all in all, I do agree that you can't just win with just technique, you obviously need more than that to be a great fighter, and anyone who understands the art of fighting very well would be aware of that.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

Several things here: 1) Please keep you comments shorter. One thing that I say and try to point out is it is NOT that complicated. 2) You keep talking about "your teacher". It is about the individual! The major issue with too many is they talk like it is about somebody walking on water and therefore listening to what they say. 3) The person who gets knockouts on the street does not care about "technique"! If you hit someone hard enough in a certain spot, it is PHYSICS! The heck with ranges or any other technical talk. 4) FIGHTING IS NOT a broad topic! It is simple: Nothing complicated about it at all. That is why the average one lasts less than a minute! Everything people are doing today, I did years ago. And the 5 ranges, one inch punch, trapping, oblique kick, pendulum kick, straight blast all go out the window when you are fighting for your life. That is a fact. I am ANTI technical before developing the mindset for combat because that is real life. ANY real person who has worked the doors, or something similar would say the same. It comes down to learn 4 throws, 4 strikes, a sweep, kick to the nuts, head butt, and a few other things and train them. That is reality. Lastly you mentioned "looking" someway in sparring! Man, that is the problem! Who cares about how someone LOOKS in sparring. Do this: GET A WHITE TSHIRT and have someone come at you with a RED marker! Just have them slash and stab. See how far you get. What you use to keep from getting marked up, you hone. The rest for the most part is just a desire to learn something.

[@kennylopezjeetkunedo5555]

Sayf Carmen, I know difference between a real fight and sparring, of course it isn't the same, it's how you train and the realism of your training, because if you don't train realistically, it will fail you in a real situation. And this is where I disagree with you at, it does matter about your teacher because if you don't have a good teacher, it can effect you when you're trying to execute a technique. Of course the individual matters...that's more important than a style, even Bruce Lee said that. I mean, you talk to me like i'm some novice and on top of that, you don't even know me brother. I respect your knowledge on things but the problem you have is, you like to pull rank on people all the time like you have the answer for everything and that's bad because you never stop learning. Unless you feel you don't need to learn anymore because you feel you're an expert. And btw,(since you brought it up) my teacher has been in tons of street fights with all sorts of people, even people armed with knives my friend. This is what you don't know.(he actually threw himself in the fire and even had an open door policy when he had his school open for anyone to come test him if they didn't believe what he did worked and it was always the same result!!) All of the stuff he taught me is battlefield tested. Of course i don't go out looking for fights because when you do that, than you have to worry about jail time especially if it isn't worth it. And fighting is a broad topic because you have sport fighting and street fighting, and that's not the samething. (You even know this) The approach is different and the mindset is different. As for the person that gets knockouts on the streets.......anybody can be knocked out if you don't see the punch coming. Lol Someone can walk up you when you're not expecting it when you're relaxed and coming home tired from work, and knock you out. Lol But none of that has nothing to do with the things I elaborated on or was talking about. Lol And this is why when you fight for your life or even against an average person who just throwing wild punches trying to win, you also have to have the same mindset that you do what it takes to WIN using the skills you have and not allowing yourself to go outside of what you know or do well, but keeping the mindset of doing whatever it takes to win, especially in a street situation but if you not aware of that and you don't have the right mindset to understand what you're getting into, than of course the technique isn't gonna matter. Lol

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

Okay, listen, there is no need to make your comments so long. The facts are not that complicated. Let me say this to you: You now tell me I pull rank on people like I know it all. 1) I STILL train 5 days per week! 2) what I do is so battle tested if you told the REAL experts on street KILLINGS, MURDER, STABBINGS and other real attacks they would tell you that you are wrong and your whole idea of your training in ranges and this technique and that is NOT how it goes! As for you being a novice, you may spar well, but that ain't the street! And yes, from your comments, I do assume that you do not understand the reality. Take 80% of what you know and have someone blind side you with a punch and you will know what it is! I have trained in many styles and few have my pedigree and I don't teach or use most of it! As I said your whole way of looking at what is real is not reality. People are stabbing people to death! They have no training! People are hitting people in the head with bottles! Those people have no training! TECHNIQUE is absolutely worthless in the street before understanding the mind of the criminal and how to train to AUTOMATIC response! You can assume what you want as to what I think I am, but I am trying to save lives! Talking about what some teacher said, does not make it right. I am talking FBI states! I am talking ER states! And some routines of elaborate techniques will get people killed.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

Here is the facts! I teach from the start 5 strikes, 4 take downs, 3 kicks, 5 covers and 5 holds. They will go up against anyone with just those and they learn them all in the first 6 months. That is how science comes into training. SMALL curriculum and DRILLS that simulate as much as possible real life. THAT is the way! In class learning 100 techniques is for the ego.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

What you saw in that "fight" was 2 people throwing punches and grabbing each other. That shows that your idea of self defense is not rooted in reality. you need to study what is actual and get away from the romantic notion of the martial arts.

[@beanieseagull8713]

What's your view on Geoff Thompson ?

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

THE MAN! Point blank!

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

He was one of the first people to get people right in what REAL was! And did it long ago.

[@TheWillToFight]

My friend is a skilled fighter with perfect technique better than me and we spa hard but after the first round I've been eating him every time because he has no gas tank Ps good video

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING DUDE! Great post! Thanks and keep that pressure on :)

[@TheWillToFight]

TheUmmahFightCamp out training partners always say that if you mix his skill with my fitness you would make the perfect fighter. But I can train my skills, you can't train heart.