They CHEATED in Smash Bros...

[@cyntheticconjurer]

The funniest part is that if he wanted to play a buffed version of Pichu, they put one in the game. It's called Pikachu.

[@dylanbauman3894]

True

[@cagethelonewolf]

no the idea is he wanted to cheat and picked the character no one would actually play and then added a button combo

[@shady8045]

If he played pikachu he would not have had the success he had. The whole point was that the playing a character that’s completely broken.

[@starsmyfsmash]

@@cagethelonewolf not a button combo, thats a lie. after further investigation it was selecting pichu on port 4 with that specific costume.

[@cagethelonewolf]

@starsmyfsmash it was a button combo with outfit, later found out? He was immediately banned

[@YOSSARIAN313]

Chaos was actually known by his community to be a cheater in other games which is why its shocking to me it took so long to become suspicious.

[@BubbaBrons]

Imagine cheating and making your character op af, and you STILL lose to a random round 1 Fox

[@nifaso]

remix is really good

[@BubbaBrons]

@@nifaso you right, “random” was too mean.

[@Xanek]

It's surprising how long the Pichu player got away with doing what they did before getting caught. Would been suspicious that they were doing so well and only so well on their own console and no one elses.

[@squeakymeow]

I mean you need to consider that rhis was the first time a player got caught doing this. It was entirely possible but its the same thing as not locking your door and thinking "yeah no one will ever enter my house unprompted" they had a rule against it but no one expected this to ever happen

[@samdilophosaur9787]

Smash players are kinda dumb

[@Xanek]

@@squeakymeow Yeah, but I'm sure there must've been some thought of like "damn, why do they really want to play on their console only?"

[@squeakymeow]

@@Xanek I mean yeah, they stole his SD card for that reason later but social interactions usually dont have those simple actions... Sadly

[@Oh-Ben]

His locals was likely filled with doc kids. My locals top player had a legit Pichu. This guy only cheated because nobody knew or even picked up a low tier alt.

[@CreamFraiche]

The difference between the Professor Pro Fox clip and Pichu is that everybody and their mom knows Fox. They know all his data. So in a Fox v Fox it's easier to see when something is up because Fox v Fox has been played forever. Who the fuck knows anything about Pichu? He's a shit tier character that nobody plays so you don't learn anything about him, both actively or passively. It's still crazy how confident Prof Pro was but it's more understandable to have that info known.

[@anthonyrodriguez9232]

Legit question because I'm fairly uninformed on melee. What happened with the Fox v Fox clip? Like I can't tell what was wrong.

[@atomicvibez3544]

​@@anthonyrodriguez9232from what I can tell the hitbox was modded to be bigger than intended so fox had more hit range than usual.

[@PichusBlueberryPies]

“nobody plays him” 🖐️

[@RIADAPLE]

​@@anthonyrodriguez9232I know I'm super late, but fox's shine should've sent him into tuble or basically semi spike him, because its an attack with fized knockback it always does the same, but in that clip, shine didn't put fox into tumble, which means the knockback value was lower (eg. 0.9 instead of 1.0)

[@illford]

​@@atomicvibez3544this is absolutely incorrect, it was the launch rate that was wrong

[@Disisdabeast]

It is so fucking funny that he had the utter audacity to make Pichu FSmash kill at 18 percent like that. Like I hate cheaters and all but that is SO fucking funny.

[@Gamersgoinblind]

What's funny is that the rogue like platform fighter Coney was saying actually exists as a 2D fighting game called 52Beatup which is the same concept but both players choose between three random buffs/nerfs with the loser of the round choosing first and it's first to 5 round wins

[@Scandal262]

I dont believe for a second that this guy saw some hidden potential in Pichu or whatever. He just wanted to cheat and either never get caught and recieve the clout that comes from "omg this guy's winning with a low tier" shit or he gets caught and lives on in infamy as "that guy who cheated to win with Pichu"

[@pokkiheart]

Yeah it's 100% "how do I not get caught? An alt for a character nobody uses, got it"

[@Evan-mt7bc]

This kid is a closet Ridley main, show this kid Ridley and he'll never cheat again

[@YOSSARIAN313]

He was known to cheat in fps games like CoD too. He was just not an honest dude. He was a teenager though so he could be a better man right now

[@JacobBush16]

I’ll never understand how he got away with it so long by refusing to use any Wii but his own.

[@abbe1255]

As to the professor pro clip: Fox's shine ALWAYS knocks down in the ditto. And given that it is the most common matchup and shine is a very common move, every fox player should know somethings not right.

[@antorequiem1205]

The like 2 frames of Just Monika I did not expect

[@tuvillo]

I think going "check that disc" is something you would only say in the world where it's on your mind that something could be wrong with setups in the first place

[@TurtleGye]

13:08 I'm so glad Coney mentioned the best music album ever created

[@TheMacaroniPanda]

Lol at first I thought you were referring to Everybody by Logic lol, I love most of his music but I’m not a big fan of that album lol

[@jadthecat387]

Imagine cheating in a kid’s party game

[@cravonomire9971]

Truuuuue

[@Techdeckshawty]

TRUUUE EVEN KIDS CAN PLAY AND UR STILL BAD

[@P3strode]

HEY ITS A MANLY KIDS GAME

[@DANCERcow]

Not a kids game, stop invalidating smash Bros with this talking point. Smash Bros demographic is literally 10-30 year olds!

[@cravonomire9971]

@@DANCERcow 1: what is a ten year old? Answer: a kid 2: it's a joke

[@reverseshin]

The lesson here is if the player begs every time to play on there setup/console, there most likely a cheater or these competitions need to check the people’s setups .

[@benbarker1258]

The cheating series would be fun if you could eventually collab with other streamers. There are channels that do "spectating" videos on cheaters

[@senorbuen0]

I actually relate to this guy a lot: * I believe in my main's potential more than anyone else * I've been playing for almost 2 years and putting a lot of work for no results * I live in an unremarkable region No one would bat an eye if needles suddenly killed at 80

[@CookieGal-]

Convinced I have the same KZbin recommended as Coney. I'll watch a video and then Coney will have a video up a week later on the same video

[@ReiseOW]

dude id love to see coney get this game commissioned roguelike platform fighter would go so hard

[@Enzym3]

I feel like the smart thing to do would be to find a way to mod a gamecube controller to infect the hosts copy of melee with the cheats, that similarly could only be accessed through a specific port, skin, and button combo. That way all you would have to do is keep the controller in your bag, and if they check the SD card of the person's switch and see the mods, you can just point out that its not your wii or SD card and deflect blame. Who knows if its possible but it would be funny

[@Luigi_Main3752]

That would require a method to use ACE using only a single controller port, no such method exists to my knowledge...

[@Shrowser]

The perfect crime

[@PeeperSnail]

@@Luigi_Main3752There probably is a method out there, but it’s very quick and dirty with noticeable visuals

[@illford]

To the person who said "what's the point if it's not real footage" we already know he modded fsmash to kill fox at 18% why is gigantic nair spam that crazy

[@JohannesBee]

Commenting to let you know I appreciate the red shirt swap for alternate Coney at 9:30

[@nikin.7170]

15:56 holy hell the alsume is spreading even further

[@thewoofalo631]

Actually at least in ultimate, Ohio has a pretty good competitive scene, because what else are we meant to do, farm corn for fun?

[@YOSSARIAN313]

Cleveland has some amazing clubs

[@griefingg0lem685]

Honestlyl, imagine if someone found a way to add that kind of "Cheater's Buff" into the controller itself, so it uploads the data secretly to the game and removes it alongside the controller. Who would ever figure it out?

[@sp1nda]

Every time I see a new Pichu Kid video knowing he was one of my best friends before this whole fiasco is always wild 😂

[@ByrneBaby]

on top 100 thing, I think it's like every year the skill gaps get bigger, and people want to have some sort of trophy or moniker, so they put top 100 on a bigger and bigger pedestal for the feeling. We might see a top 500 at some point for that reason.

[@jakefromstatefarm6969]

I cant believe he was the guy that made the hbox left side right side visualization.

[@casualcommenter9730]

Knew the guy, they had a genuine care for the game and did want low tiers to get recognition. However, those things were drastically misplaced with illusions of grandeur.

[@unclefred3128]

3:33 PTSD kicks in....

[@sumonedum]

"They CHEATED in Smash Bros..." Title by Coney "The Bracket Fixer"

[@smollmoth6376]

DO NOT TAKE OFF KIRBYS SHOES, DO NOT SHOW KIRBY FEET

[@diddykong2143]

I’m surprised it took that long to notice how broken the Pichu was.

[@PichusBlueberryPies]

Nobody back then played against the character since everyone would rather shit on the character then actually attempt to learn them if the stars align and someone actually used them, of course no one would have noticed quickly.

[@Zippy_Zolton]

I miss launch Ultimate Pichu

[@nabbitling2109]

0:05 And yet this man still has a wife

[@Ick.-]

13:10 YEAH, IM IN A COUPE WIT A CUTTER, SIPPING ON WOK!!!

[@nutradewar]

the bell bit killed me. good job editor

[@SonicTheCutehog]

Never trust anyone who brings in their Wii for a Melee tournament

[@felix5728]

What does Pichu beat? Pichu. But not the enemy Pichu, only itself

[@Logplank]

Imagine that him making pichu better was just making him pre nerf ultimate pichu

[@4546Bean]

In the immortal words of alpharad: “Grinding is cringe, cheating is based”

[@wollins7244]

I’m pretty sure Jacob was quoting PokemonChallenges here lmao. Real “you miss every shot you don’t take- Michael Scott” - Wayne Gretzky energy

[@Watburnt]

Alpharad did say that first

[@saxeladude]

15:20 just has a button on the controller set to a macro that increases or decreases all moves jank and power. just like boosts nairs range from nothing to half stage

[@PerfectDarkly]

I dunno bro, as soon as I saw the dTilt edgeguard at 9:01, I was like "I would've called this out immediately." Maybe it's not so obvious when you're not looking for it, but that just looks like such a flagrantly wrong interaction, in the middle of a bunch of other dubious ones

[@louiscalone274]

13:09 WHOLE LOTTA RED???

[@MenacedByElves]

No way Coney is a Carti fan 13:08

[@TheMonkeydela]

24:28 as an avid Apex player, pleeeeeeease don't doooooo it... and if you do be sure to pick wraith and use the r99 and wingman. They kill like nobody's business whether you're cheating or not

[@relaxation_and_tax_evasion]

0:04 didn't say being a father. Damn Coney 😬

[@Sleepyhead080808]

Coney afraid of Surfs Up Hail Satan til cannonless rolls around 😂

[@Niftyturnip-]

nah fr tho imagine if i as a kirby main said "hm yall r underestimating the pink puff, imma show you his power! BY MODDING THE GAME AND MAKING EVERY MOVE DO 999%!!!"

[@cinderling]

1:46 ive been noticing more and more of these emotes pop up. Is CONEY a fan of LISA?

[@InuYashaboy707]

13:09, me when Coney asks me what the worst rap album of all time is

[@VaSoapman]

If there is a way to plug in a USB and shadow-hack the game that'd be really bad for the entire FGC. Because there is already a very easy way for players to do that. Just install the "usb" at the end of your controllers USB.

[@DoMorrMusic]

I just saw the hungrybox reaction video, so to see Coney's version is funny

[@georgethegreat3114]

11:45, coney yapping, skip 23 seconds you're welcome ❤

[@saxeladude]

4:20 that's just roy you're describing melee roy

[@Thatdudejosh9]

At the point where he was saying how he didn’t know why it’s a meme, I didn’t even know people were still making ohio jokes in the first place

[@LtCdrXander]

I'm an Ohioan and I don't even know why people think Ohio is some sort of hellhole. I've lived here my whole life, and so far, I have never encountered anything crazy to suggest that it's some horrible place like all the memes portray it as. Maybe I'm just being brainwashed by the cult of ancient demon aliens controlling the state, idk.

[@atwistedb]

They aren’t Coney is just a slow learner

[@afoxy2028]

Is that Dampharos at 11:40 in the chat the same one as in Simpleflips streams?

[@cbd075]

21:19 VINDICATION

[@AlphabetBackwards]

Whats funny is that TCNick3 did the platform fighter roguelike

[@4546Bean]

I was watching hbox’s reaction to this when you uploaded

[@credorn4590]

Yo, what’s the background music playing at 17:00 ?

[@neobahumut707]

This Pichu Nair reminds me of Captain falcons up air from Smash 64 lol.

[@Felipera_]

considering that it is a smash player, if you change your tag and take a shower... boom, you are unbanned.

[@jom812]

Does anyone know the song that plays in the background at 17:05?

[@RayaMonetStClair]

I’m not gonna admit what I thought the game cartridge was in the thumbnail

[@lgachaboyyt]

25:00 what song is this?

[@monkey9186]

But there was that doctor Mario player in Japan who got 2nd or 3rd

[@cFrogjar]

the recreations are fine its just weird to show it in extended highlights with no talking. I assume its for the pace of the video though and its not that big a deal at the end of the day good movie

[@nque7655]

I love coneys reaction to Puff BAIR

[@GrumpySylveon]

24:40 Turbo Tastic arc

[@cvrlos_senju]

I’d love to see you react to “the rise and fall of competitive giga bowser” is another melee video.

[@rexbot2749]

you really had to pity bell me Mr editor

[@bam6312]

Glad to see the pokemon VGC shoutout in the background for cheating 😃

[@five_6_seven_8]

Pichu only has poor results cause my man donttestme hasnt picked him up yet

[@taken_over3416]

Coney you can beat people up for their money that’s probably how they got it back.

[@drstclair]

Rounds is an enjoyable game to stream

[@emerald_espeon]

Hearing the bell made me unironically check if I was surprised to Coney. I was in fact not. Literally been watching the channel for a while now

[@bryangoan]

Florida has Disney but we have Cedar Point

[@apollotropical]

13:10 HE SAID IT! HE SAID IT!

[@Justpassingby204]

I bet dude didn’t give the money back

[@durkle8113]

Hi Harold did you ever play overgrowth? It’s an old indie with parkour and killer rabbits that was floating by around from about 2013-2017 that I was half expecting to pop up

[@charlieissofron]

Rounds for next mystery platform fighter bracket confirmed

[@nikolaszaragoza5972]

can you link the video in the description

[@squeakymeow]

hohohoho, Coney you're such a nice cheater in my eyes ❤

[@stevepater7205]

Coney I want the footage from our argument about Pittsburgh

[@acida_banger]

My man Rayquaza07 would immediately switch setups after losing to some unranked bs 🙏

[@joelnub9547]

Ah, classic coney cheatposting

[@cedlav6770]

1:11 what is the song?

[@Trumaniac6949]

Driftveil city from pokemon (can't believe they left u on read for 11 months)

[@cedlav6770]

@@Trumaniac6949 you're a legend for that

[@poke4074]

Kirby doesn't wear shoes

[@fursuitjumpscare]

Wdym, you can see his shoelaces very clearly

[@benlundberg3811]

Can't wait for Coney's reaction to awsamsaus aMSa video

[@DtrJr]

dude with that idea just try it like one stream or smn on kick lmao theyd surely allow it

[@Supersmartandfunnyguy]

Coney you fiend, how dare you slander Sheetz

[@Murks33]

I swear I've seen coney watch this before

[@willthelemon5681]

Sheetz is epic. They got glizzies for days.

[@Bruhtato412]

As a pichu main, this just inspires me to push pichu even further into a positive light. Pichu is incredibly good, just requires alot of skill to play. I hope to see more of pichu in future brackets

[@Zorua3]

I’m guessing you're talking about Ultimate bc Pichu is objectively not good in Melee

[@PichusBlueberryPies]

@@Zorua3 while that is technically true, I think that all characters are good in at least one way in a gameplay standpoint.

[@TramiNguyen-oi3kp]

What is Kirby doing?

[@DrGandW]

Wow he has never heard this story?

[@Bradley_War]

I swore he did a vid on this already. Maybe not.

[@tuntarallCotA]

Never show Red shirt Coney ever again. I don’t like that guy

[@nikc101]

I heard the ding ding and also subscribed to you lmao

[@byrontheusurper6505]

Rounds fucking rules!