Best Sequel Ever? - Blade Runner 2049 Review

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An unnecessary sequel that doesn't suck? It exists, people, and it's called Blade Runner 2049, starring Ryan Gosling and Harrison Ford. And now the director, Denis Villeneuve is working on Dune. Here's hoping it's as good as this masterpiece of cinema!
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[@demofighter]

"You have to be into slow movies" 5 minutes into Blade Runner 2049 Dave Bautista throws Ryan Gosling through a wall.

[@SaudadeSunday]

Finally someone gets put through that fuckin' wall!

[@liaminwales]

@@SaudadeSunday the 4th wall XE

[@Outland9000]

🤣

[@laupoke]

it's not becase it's slow that nothing happens

[@svsguru2000]

So you found a use for those non-shatterproof screen protectors.

[@epicwaffles449]

It's for when they disagree with each other and start throwing things 🤣

[@stuartwashington2658]

49:31 K's name being Joe is a reference to "Joseph K" in Kafka's "The Trial." Joseph K is tried and executed without ever knowing what his crime was.

[@WPPatriot]

Also, a prositute's client isn't even called a "Joe" but a "John" - so David is picking up on something that doesn't exist :P

[@lucioledizerot196]

Not gonna lie, once I noticed James' reflection in the plastic screen I couldn't stop watching it.

[@golgoth7600]

9.9 Only because the movie wasn't long enough

[@rustumlaattoe]

When i was about 9 i saw Blade Runner, Star Wars (episode IV) and Akira in one day... I've never been the same since.

[@Outland9000]

I mean... That's a pretty legit introduction to Sci-Fi

[@rustumlaattoe]

@@Outland9000 Well Blade Runner was incomprehensible to my 9 year old brain. It was just cool flying cars to me. Akira gave me nightmares for a few years. And Star Wars was so much like magic rather than science i was driven to become a Star Trek fan instead.

[@RadNitro]

The editing of these 1 hour vids from 3 to 4 hour chats is straight up incredible. The visual cuts are obvious, but seamlessly flow the audio like nothing changed. Well done indeed.

[@raulgalets]

agreed

[@nyatella]

David's right on the money there, the storyline is simple and straightforward not much happens in the entire 2.5 hours. not many scene changes not many characters not much dialogue. Minimalistic. yet conveys so much.

[@RolandsSh]

When I first heard about plans to make a BR2049, I despised the notion. I thought that the original works exceptionally well as a standalone movie, and any sequels would just cheapen it. Then slowly details started coming out about the people involved and I got cautiously optimistic. The end result far surpassed my expectations, and I think it's one of the best movies of 2010s. In an interview Villeneuve said that the Jared Leto role was written with David Bowie in mind, sadly he passed away before that could happen. I think Bowie would have made that movie absolutely perfect, but Leto is probably as good of a replacement as it could have been. That being said, it's not even my favourite Dennis Villeneuve film - I like Incendies and Sicario even more. BR2049 and Prisoners share the 3rd place. I can't wait for his take on Dune. P.S. My favourite sequels of all time in no particular order: Empire Strikes Back, Godfather Part II, Before Midnight, Blade Runner 2049, Paddington 2

[@BOKtober]

If you’re actually paying attention I dont think the movie is slow at all, there’s always information being conveyed in one form or another . Audience are just so use to exposition they can’t draw information when presented it in other forms

[@juanpablosilvalinares2324]

43:50 I dissagree about the CGI being obvios in the rain scene. Since Joi is a hologram and can't really interact with K's hand it's a lot better that they are out of sync. K can't predict what she want's him to do but he is doing his best to follow along as if she was really grabbing his hand to her face.

[@Anubis22774]

Not only the greatest sequel but, THE GREATEST FILM OF ALL TIME.

[@lucioledizerot196]

Very debatable and subjective, but arguments could be made for it.

[@JordanV]

I think it is! But I get why other non-cinema nerds don't care for it as much. People have come accustomed to movies without rest. I find them rushed and forgetting the creative tool of a "rest", whether visual, audio, action. Also this is very much intended for theater, as in projection and impressive audio systems, rather than small form factor media.

[@kevanrezai5130]

This channels idea (and execution) is waaaaaaaaay underrated do some tarantino movies

[@nyatella]

When I watched this movie it was a lot like how I watch breaking bad it's like "slow" but at the same time each scene each shot each emotion is crafted to tell so much.

[@ecooley257]

Thanks you three for getting me back into enjoying movies. I also enjoy the banter and David's ratings and complaints/compliments always get me in the mood to enjoy the ensuing debate. I hadn't watched this movie until after I heard the podcast. Good news is I forgot what all you said, but it made me want to watch it and I'm glad I did. Ramble ramble ramble, I enjoy your content and your banter. You three are my favorites.

[@KhromTX]

I hope ya'll never censor this podcast! Please keep the swearing.

[@komurokaede122]

I hated podcasts until I saw this. Gonna continue your stuff, thank you!

[@benedekfodor269]

I give it 10/10 just because Adam Savage is in it. ( Otherwise its a 9.982 )

[@TheyreJustMovies]

Isn't he just in one of the shorts that came out before the movie? He also has a cool video showing the wave machines they used in the final fight.

[@benedekfodor269]

@@TheyreJustMovies Yeah, he is only in a short but there is another really cool perk to the film at least for me because it was filmed (mainly) in Hungary so it's still a 10/10 of me BRUhAHHAHAH

[@drewpickard554]

Not getting a solid answer to if deckard is a replicant is key to both movies. We the audience need to not know if he is or isn't. The whole point of both movies is what is a soul? What is really being alive? What is life? If you know if Deckard was or wasn't kinda answers those questions somewhat instead of cause the discussion.

[@drewpickard554]

There was soooo much to this movie. The audio is key and seeing it on a big screen is key. At my local theater I've never really noticed a time the sound there couldn't do it, the sounds in this movie pushed it to the max. Those Punch's have some impact. Really what makes the original and this movie great is you need to be paying attention and you can sit and discuss almost every scene. This failed in the theater because this was obviously a I don't care about making money I'm making a sequel that will not shit one of my favorite movies. Honestly that made me a big fan of Villeneuve. And I am soooooo stoked for his dune! I really think that's shaping up to be amazing

[@niclastname]

Maybe it's a different country kind of thing, but here in the states at least, prostitutes call the customer a "John". Not "Joe". So I'm not sure if that was the intention of that detail. I think that was just a random common male name. If that was really the point of that name choice, that would have been a bit too on-the-nose for me. Plus, that would mean the in-universe company that makes her is really either so dumb, or so openly condescending that they wouldn't have programed her to not literally just heavily imply "hey, I'm a prostitute, and this isn't real emotion", rather than try to seem genuine (or at least be manipulative enough to attempt to deceive the customer).

[@deanerhockings-reptilianhu8701]

Excellent discussion about this movie by you 3 gents. Loved it.

[@JordanV]

Rylee being bothered from the movie's exact topic points at 34:33 of being a dystopian future is exactly what it's trying to convey. It's supposed to bother you and believe it's not right. Consider it a success you feel uneasy about it. Blade Runner literally created the film genre of dystopian future. Of course the subject matter is going to have uneasy similarities of future versions of current technology. It's a bit of a warning in some sense of how terrible it can be if ethics aren't in check with new and emerging technologies and civil/social structures.

[@EliasSmeeus]

Rock'n'Rolla and Snatch, I feel like you guys would have so much fun watching those movies.

[@haukionkannel]

It is the best sequel ever! The Imperium strikes back is near though in the croup of sequels!

[@jamiefitzpatrick4377]

This channel should have far better reach. It deserves a bigger audience and I know there is an audience wanting this content. I made a new KZbin account (browser/mac address/ OS/ device info all hidden) and searched for a specific movie done here with generic terms, this wasn’t on the first three pages. The main Linus channel set or Tech news should sign off saying what movie is upcoming here to link people to the channel. People in new spaces typically do collaborations with other channels to help reach different people so they know each other exist. Linus media group needs to passively reference this channel in other areas more or it needs to let this channel network with a variety of other channels.

[@pdblouin]

When I watched Sicario I thought it was just a typical SWAT action movie, but I'm a movie noob. I'd love to hear why "The Movie Snob" (Sorry) of the group said it's so great. Maybe I'll have to watch it again.

[@DinerLingo]

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but the baseline tests are passages taken from the novel "Pale Fire" by Vladimir Nabokov (who wrote "Lolita"): "Cells interlinked within cells interlinked / Within one stem. And dreadfully distinct / Against the dark, a tall white fountain played." The novel is structured as a kind of meta fictional academic thesis: a critical analysis of a lengthy poem by a fictional writer by another fictional writer, including a "fake" foreword, analysis & index of the poem. When K sits down to eat & Joi is asking him what he wants to do, she briefly holds up a copy of "Pale Fire" & says do you want to read a book, to which K responds that she hates that book. Joi says he's right & throws the book away. From what I've read there's been no explanation as to why the book is referenced. Originally the baseline test was just Gosling reciting a passage, but it turned into the back & forth we see in the film (according to a book about the making of the film). I've seen some people propose the "human / replicant / AI" hierarchy of the film mimics the "Nabokov / author / poet" structure of the book & that's why Joi hates the book, it reminds her of her spot on the bottom. But there's also a part in the book in which the fictional author is researching a second poem along with the main one. He discovers the phrase "a tall white fountain" in a second poem, both of which are about near-death experiences. He begins to suspect a link, which gives him a sense of purpose in uncovering: is this a real vision two people had? is there an afterlife? is it a real memory, a planted memory or just a coincidence that two people used the same phrase around the same time in poems about similar experiences? Ultimately he finds out the second poem's line was a typo. It was meant to be "mountain" not fountain. Finding out that his hopes of an actual afterlife are wrong because of a typo or coincidence destroys his renewed sense of purpose. You could say K's discovery that his memories aren't real follows this path.

[@danc1513]

First episode of carpool critics I've watched. Really enjoyed it! Keep it up guys.

[@thomasbaxter1371]

Saw it on a plane???????WTF.......If any film demands big screen/sound treatment this is it. I would go as far as to say if you haven't seen it on a big screen with a fantastic sound system you haven't seen or heard it. END OF.

[@monotoneone]

I completely agree. Resently I rewatched the movie late at night using headphones an it was a completely different experience. The sound is such a huge part of this movie. Watching it a cinema with a good sound system is a must. It reminds me of the difference in watching Avatar in a cinema with a great screen and 3D calibration and watching it at home on a 2D screen.

[@theangryhog]

If you aren't watching this one in Dolby Atmos, you are missing out. It's probably my top 5 for demoing my 5.1.4 Atmos setup for people.

[@benedekfodor269]

I saw is first whit some crapy speakers, and then whit nice headphones, and DAMN, even the first seen when ist only text was immersive.

[@zilliq]

Out of curiosity, what others movies are in your top5 sound design wise?

[@theangryhog]

@@zilliq For Dolby Atmos, Mad Max Fury Road, Tron Legacy, A Quiet Place, Oblivion, Deepwater Horizon (explosion scene specifically), all the Marvel movies do pretty well. I thought the movie sucked, but Aquaman had great surround also.

[@cchladny]

37:00 The discussion is whether humans could subjugate the androids for slave functions. That's very not far off. We have created life like humanoids and what's the first thing we do with em? Sex dolls.

[@AdeenDragon]

Is really a surprise? The only reason to have a human looking robot is to interact with it as a human, and what the tech can support currently is physical companionship. Conversations are very hard, while sex is so easy even a ant could do it.

[@2drealms196]

I thought scarecrows have been around for alot longer.

[@praapje]

Really nice chat guys. I absolutely love this movie, coming from someone who pretty much hate anything coming out of Hollywood these days. For me this is the greatest film of the 21s century along with Mulholland Dr. and Inland Empire. Maybe I´m forgetting a couple right now, but that´s how high I rate this movie. Love your take on it and the enthusiasm and knowledge. Just subbed.

[@jamogable]

Find someone who looks at you the way James looks at Riley when he tries to nit pick at BR 2049..

[@4Everlast]

Two things the original has over 2049 is the fact it came out first and allowed for this to exist and a great villain.

[@comrad707]

I'm with Riley on the scoring rules. 0.5 is enough granularity, especially if you can't tell the differences between .2 points of difference in your own score.

[@termin80r]

Well they were right. Cyberpunk isn’t quite the Blade runner of video games.

[@KyleCollective]

Bet to differ David. I have a $2000 sound bar and it sounds a lot better than equally priced surround sound systems. I have rear speakers and Atmos and nothing else priced similarly sounds better.

[@NicoIsntHere]

People wanted it to be an action movie when it’s a sci-fi film noir (and was never meant to be an action movie). I think that’s the biggest point of contention when people “didn’t like it”, they saw the trailer and expected a polished sci-fi action flick.

[@AFryingPan]

I absolutely love this movie. I have tower speakers, atmos, and an 18 inch subwoofer. The sound design is impeccable. I can't imagine watching this on any other setup other than IMAX (what I watched it in theaters)

[@MrV1NC3N7V3G4]

Ok, I guess I'll give this another watch. I swear it didn't make an impression the first time, but I also don't remember how much I paid attention since I watched it at home. I loved the original because it was such a unique concept then.

[@szn00]

It's a good movie when you enjoy it 😊

[@joshconfer209]

I am confused and interested in that statement.

[@SynthLove]

I wish this movie was longer haha. I would watch a 24 hour version , ive never been so into a movie before i didnt want it to end.

[@andrewlee4527]

LOVE this movie and again I'm thoroughly enjoying the conversation. Regarding Jared Leto's performance, I love that his character is the most robotic (his movements and lack of empathy) when he is a human in a movie full of replicants. Great portrayal.

[@MaikKellerhals]

You haven't seen Captain Phillips? It's worth watching just for one of the final scenes. You'll see why Tom Hanks is one of the best actors around.

[@drewpickard554]

The effects and visuals in 2049 was super on point. Just really holds to the just do it to the max. Like it was obvious they were trying to push the lines of what's real and what's a effect. The original cities of tiny models were soooo good for the time.

[@cyclicm1622]

For my home I use a VIZIO 36" 3.0 Sound Bar coupled with a Polk PSW505 subwoofer. Pretty amazing sound for the price.

[@mackstertube]

I makes me sad that movies like this do not do well enough at the box office so it gets harder & harder to have them made.

[@DinerLingo]

I don't think it's a coincidence that two of the 3 main female replicants are named "Joi" & "Luv" -- two emotions that replicants are assumed unable to achieve, & that the third is named "Mariette," which is very close to marionette--quiet a coincidental name for a pleasure model replicant that Joi "controls" during her "intimate encounter" with K.

[@proctoscopefilms]

Video games will never be on the level of movies as far as story goes.

[@Lead_Foot]

I really liked this movie, but I really hated the UHD Blu Ray release. How can it be HDR with a peak brightness of 150 nits?

[@ryankramer]

HDR isn't just peak brightness, it's also color volume, and the visual look of 2049 was intentionally NOT a glossy BBC Earth style approach.

[@doom2125]

One of the best movies ever

[@mynameisbarret]

If Riley doesn't like decimal points in his ratings, he would hate One Bite Pizza Reviews

[@Bunjamin27]

..and TheReportofTheWeek

[@vejr821]

Pulp Fiction next?! or soon...please

[@55avenger]

Alright I love James. This is in my top 5 of all time as well.

[@josepineda8902]

This movie is so slow, but I love it for it. I sink my teeth into the world and extract all the fine details. Makes me feel like actual real conversation are happening

[@nsp585]

Riley: 17" screen is much bigger Me: i can't watch movies on 65" tv because it's too small, compared to 120" projector screen, but projector is broken.

[@future_phonk]

Watching this while playing with my Tomenosuke Blaster...

[@walouinsanityshed]

i honestly can't watch another movie podcast, you guys just set the bar.

[@calypsoraz4318]

I absolutely loved this movie.

[@matthewmckinnon9298]

This movie is not for everyone, but the people it's for know what's up.

[@mateocrespo2598]

YES! shut the whole podcast down, u can't top this

[@wepoststuff]

I don't even need to watch the episode without saying the answer to the title is yes

[@JeremieBPCreation]

I don't like slow movies but I loved 2049!

[@slurpshit]

Yo please still do shaun of the dead! :)

[@abduktedtemplar]

Get a couple Homepods, the stereo experience is fantastic.

[@CockatooDude]

Not so much the quality of the audio itself unfortunately.

[@abduktedtemplar]

That is not true at all. Are there better sounding speakers? Sure, but you are going to pay quite a bit more. Paired HomePods sound may not be "elite audiophile" grade but they are better than any sound bar and higher quality stereo sound requires much more space and money.

[@CockatooDude]

@@abduktedtemplar They might be better than soundbars, but they can't compete with equivalently priced regular speakers if you know what to buy.

[@garryhall-hollis4834]

Reminds me me of of battlestar galactica modern series whole human colon thing going on

[@reubennichols644]

- Rating - - 9 . 7 . - - I agree .

[@samuelmagilocusts2870]

Why did you pick the blue haired stripper for the thumb nail? Why not Ford? Or his daughter?

[@JMUDoc]

So much better than the first one, which is tedious style-over-substance. But Harrison Ford so obviously can't be arsed with it that his appearance makes it WORSE. I hope you guys don't review _Fury Road_ because I detest that film and can't stand to hear people praise it (and it sounds as though you liked it).

[@Sadman1471]

best part of this is "shadows are part of the holograms"..... mind blown.......ooooooooooooow

[@jetjodh]

When are you watching Mr. Robot?

[@MrSuperbigrich]

Shadows are part of the hologram oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

[@KSPilo]

BLADE RUNNER 2049 - "Black Out 2022" Anime Short: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKO9nGypiMyFr7M BLADE RUNNER 2049 - "2036: Nexus Dawn" Short: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5jWhGaknbeFsLM BLADE RUNNER 2049 - "2048: Nowhere to Run" Short: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4ucgKZumLWSnck

[@carbunclegirl]

Riley. There is already a vocal part of humanity that doesn't consider other humans human based on skin color and similar arbitrary things. How is it unbelievable that people would consider artifical humans not human?

[@zachend6218]

Goodbye to my fav podcast :(

[@ju1cycrackfa1ry]

I love how Riley gets annoyed at David's pretentiousness with the ratings lol

[@kerredderrek]

Please get a wider table. This setup is visually distracting (too cramped). (: James is off in the distance too. Otherwise this is an excellent format and discussion of film. Thanks!

[@Bunjamin27]

So.. it'd be a better review if their table was wider? What'd you think about the chairs Siskel & Ebert used to sit in?

[@TheyreJustMovies]

Unfortunately the room is too small for anything else. Hopefully we'll have a whole new setup this summer.

[@joojart]

I agree 100% with james

[@4Everlast]

Leto over D.Bowie, M.Mikkelsen and H.Bardem!? My man's taste is all kinds of fucked up. That role demanded someone with gravitas, the opposite of Leto, horrible choice for a paper thin character only a great actor could level up.

[@ChimpRiot]

I like this sequel more than the original.

[@ccoedo808]

Riley is on to something how come there is no greenery but there is bees in the movie

[@TheyreJustMovies]

:O

[@Lenny-zn8hn]

Do those guys each have a Letterboxd account???

[@thxgodkjent]

Probably my favourite movie and definitely the best sequel ever made🥰

[@Megasraizi]

I like the way James's face looks in the reflection at 8:48 :D

[@jsavak99]

That's cuz we live in the new dark ages of American Idiocracy

[@benirall1246]

Nice

[@Tom_Bombadil3000]

this movie is great, i loved it. people who dislike movies like these have some degree of A.D.D.

[@SEMIA123]

Only movie I've ever seen in theatre on opening weekend.

[@DaviMartins99]

Dune should be your second then, Mr. Villeneuve is back again with more sci-fi.

[@daylightriot5671]

where'd that 0.2 go?? 🤣 im just throwing this out there guy but maybe you should have 10 criteria, that you can allot up to 10 points in each, add them all up and you have your score out of a hundred. You're welcome 😂

[@paulthebeardedonedowning6820]

Holy shit James has taste I thought he'd be a weekend at Bernie's kinda guy lol

[@kabiro2151]

I never saw the blade runner but when I saw blade runner 2049, it was too slow. Too long , nothing really caught my eye . I was just like "ok" Maybe its time for a rewatch.

[@poloo92]

The first one is way better i feel, the atmoshpere of the movie is denser and not as "sterile" as the second one ... i recommend it a lot

[@aboselaiman]

this clip not in floatplane for paid subscribers. but in yt for free. why did i sub in floatplane

[@daneger09]

Adding this for the sake of 69. But great job, guys. I felt your interest and love for this movie.

[@ReQuiem_2099]

This fantastic movie was totally robbed. I wish movies still got home sales bumps on the scale of the VHS/DVD days.

[@doorran]

open the pod bay doors Hal........

[@rory-red]

there are 10s you 3 are wrong

[@broad_cat]

@Carpool Critics I really think that moving to a 5 point scale is just psychologically more meaningful and easier to assign in a marked way. If you still need granularity, a decimal will do. On a ten-point scale, the bottom half is just underrepresented and can be sort of all over the place. I think Roger Ebert did a good job in that respect.

[@TheyreJustMovies]

So a 5 point scale where nothing's ever below a 2.5? Can you explain the difference?

[@broad_cat]

​@@TheyreJustMovies In terms of an absolute percentile, sure there's no real difference. But I just think that psychologically the 0 to 6 gets lumped into all the same bucket on a ten-point scale whereas in a 5-point system that's not quite the case. I think of it akin to how anything below a 60 is failing scholastically in the US. People just have different internalized views of what the scores mean even if they're "the same." Just something that popped into my head when David was defending his decimal.

[@adamnizami8770]

Ahh yes the “minimalist”

[@zilliq]

Damn I want to watch it again after this podcast. I was so disappointed by its result at the box office, I'm scared that these long, slow, well design Denis Villeneuve style of films will stop existing if most people don't watch and enjoy them. With Dune being released during covid times it doesn't bode well for the future of thesr masterpieces