Thin Necks and Terrifying Tractors | Two Of These People Are Lying 2x01 | The Technical Difficulties

[@mattandtom]

And yes, this time we remembered to close the curtains. -- Tom

[@GG-dt5hh]

Matt and Tom Obligatory reply commenting on the difference between the time since the video’s been posted, and the time since this comment was posted.

[@NorbiPeti]

Ayy it's back!

[@KusaneHexaku]

Yay! Hooray for more TechDif!

[@gristCollector]

You won! Hooray!

[@Taaaamas]

Thank you matt

[@CalebDennis1]

An addendum to Gary's lie about the North Lancashire election: this week, a North Dakota state legislature candidate won a seat despite having died of Covid-19 a month earlier. Life imitates art, I guess.

[@Liggliluff]

So it did happen in the future!

[@Krisztian1941]

In a small town in Hungary, a mayor candidate died a few weeks before the election, but late enough that there was no way to get another candidate stepping in. And there were only 2 of them anyway. So election looked like this: 2 names on the ballot, one of them crossed out, you either vote for the other guy or make an invalid ballot. Now, the guy who died was the candidate of the largest Hungarian party and obviously would have had the best chance of winning. Results? Other guy got 100% of the _valid_ votes, but only around 20% of all votes. 80% were invalid. He didn't even last a year.

[@ReverendBishop]

Never did find out what happened with that debacle, and I live here...

[@otakunightcorers8158]

The same thing happened in Romania in a small town when the mayor running for re-election died of covid before the voting and still won:))

[@abridge2]

Mel Carnahan, former governor of Missouri, died in a plane crash 38 days prior to winning his election for senate in 2002. His wife Jean held his senate seat for 2 years before the special election to replace him.

[@Twistedcrescendo]

I think that Tom's reaction to realizing that he has, in fact, won a thing is absolutely charming.

[@kasbt]

And... there are no replies to a hearted comment.

[@timothymclean]

I think they should total the points for the entire season instead of just per episode. Maybe that's just me.

[@simeondermaats]

@@timothymclean To be honest, I think the points system should be: the one whose article gets guessed gets a point, but if Tom guesses correctly he gets the point instead, that way random chance is (more or less) eliminated

[@zJoriz]

And the reaction from his friends was hilarious. But still, congrats, Tom. Asking the right questions got you far.

[@TlalocTemporal]

@@simeondermaats -- That would mean whoever has the real article cannot get a point, so it would sometimes be advantageous to lie poorly to sabotage the guesser if they had a lead.

[@nitehawk86]

"I like minor vehicular events." -Tom Scott, 2019

[@lucase.2546]

nitehawk86 “Poor choice of words by the Defendant Mr. Scott..... we call the second witness to the stand.”

[@tleilaxu42]

Foreshadowing for "The Self-Driving Race Car" over on Tom's main channel.

[@stumbling]

They're a good band.

[@eoghanmyers2330]

And I cannot lie

[@rebeccagarner1212]

I want that on a red t-shirt

[@indelibleink5577]

13:23 When Gary said that the dead guy was called Stanley, you can see he panicked a second later and looked at Chris because he unconsciously stole the name from him. That was a *dead* giveaway.

[@57thorns]

Then again, the are tons of Stanleys in British history.

[@JohnDangcilGeekWere]

“And here is a man named Stanley.”

[@PY5RA]

"With a K... It's silent."

[@freefallintoflames]

What put me off was him saying it was a heart attack, then hastily correcting it to collapsing when he probably thought that the cause of death wouldn't be determined exactly at that time period

[@ozan1813]

Alecstilleyedye haha dead

[@tempestaspraefert]

"Tractors everywhere" Actually, yesterday there was a large protest from the Dutch farmers, which meant that there were indeed tractors (almost) everywhere.

[@majorfallacy5926]

I'm pretty sure that was the inspiration for the story, because I doubt there were that many tractors around at that time

[@7211_]

Major Fallacy if the protests happened yesterday, probably not. I don’t think these are filmed and edited within a day.

[@gevmage]

@@majorfallacy5926 Yeah; Tom seemed to have missed the "tractors in 1878" anachronism.

[@yojasmagic]

They were literally everywhere. I couldn't get to work because of it. Proper cause though.

[@JLPicard1648]

And how does one farm the Dutch?

[@krakenmetzger]

You can tell Chris is telling the truth when his story isn't someone else's story or a rant about geology.

[@TFHKzone]

Chris is always so smooth and confident when lying and when his was picked it was the only time that he hesitated and stammered haha

[@krakenmetzger]

@@TFHKzone You must be his ex girlfriend

[@bootmii98]

he isn't, ghost riding is from California.

[@GryphLane]

Or doesn't feature Nebraska - which has happened three times already so far...

[@poizonparfait]

And isn't Hurcon

[@adjectiveollie]

gary’s frequent commitment to affirming that the incumbent was, in fact, dead, over and over again has me in stitches every time i watch this episode

[@Huntracony]

I think we've learned this: there's no technical difficulties without obscure badly sourced wikipedia articles.

[@vegigun]

I'm convinced the entire show is based on the idea that the best parts of [Citation Needed] came from them making something up and running with it while Tom tries to keep them on track. And I say this vividly remembering a juggling cow seated in an office chair.

[@ellinoorakoivula2333]

@@vegigun pretty sure you're correct. That episode is got to be my favorite

[@Azeria]

Lies. Reverse Trivia is still the best thing they've ever done!

[@ImDelphox]

The thing that sets this and citation needed apart is the fact that it still works even with somewhat boring articles. With citation needed, the articles either had to be really really interesting or be neckarwestheim nuclear power plant to work well.

[@josephrigby3112]

@@vegigun just necroing a year old comment to point out it was actually a judge at one point

[@GG-dt5hh]

It’s official! We’re getting a season of this! Hell yeah!

[@sakeriyasaleh4820]

Yes

[@thelastcube.]

ikr

[@jocax188723]

Quick note from a Chinese viewer in China: It is sort of like the Day of the Dead, about paying respect, mostly. There are several films about this festival. They are all horror, and they all freak me out. The Ghost Festival - technically the Hungry Ghost Festival - 餓鬼節 - actually took place in August this year - it is the seventh month, but of the old Chinese Lunar calendar, not the one most of us go on (the lunar calendar lagged behind by a month this time around.) There are large, colorful flags erected along major streets to guide these wayward spirits (and stop them meandering into people's houses, presumably) that are put up for the entire month as well - makes for a peculiar sight; and on the day there are gatherings of people leaving food out, spreading rice, burning incense and grave money and stuff. Pretty cool. Also, lads, it's Star-Lord, not Space-Lord. Marvel might grumble, but they'll be okay with it.

[@heshuimu]

Hello there, fellow cultured Chinese TechDif reader!

[@mukrifachri]

I know chinese new year is usually around february / march, so the 7th month sounds right in autumn (and as such makes sense).

[@violetnhz]

From Singapore and I just wanted to say hi _Hehe_ I didn't know there's the Hungry Ghost Festival in China too!! cool!

[@adamsbja]

I learned about it from Sleeping Dogs.

[@LasVegar]

You need some tegridy, it joust happens so that I have some

[@ChefDynamic]

I knew matt was lying during the second one when he said tractors were everywhere in 1878. Practical tractors were definitely not invented almost a decade before cars

[@ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Didn't immediately put me off, just because it could have been a case of saying "tractors" out of habit when what he meant was "traction engines", which were originally developed in the 1860s.

[@AgentTasmania]

or even just treating it as a joke

[@cfor8129]

I was put off bc it seemed like the wrong thing for a protest to be about in Victorian north west, I would've believed something more industrial or mill-related.

[@aoarashi3025]

Tom even has a red notebook. That's dedicated.

[@hnyii]

you mean his heliograph

[@aoarashi3025]

hani What now?

[@thelastcube.]

He changed the shade of his Tshirt now though I guess that's mainly because he bought another box of tshirts in wholesale whose shade of red wasn't the same as his previous ones

[@ThePixel1983]

@@hnyii To signal planes passing overhead. I have never heard that word! "Planes"!

[@jeffgoldblunt]

That's branding!

[@infrabread]

I think I've figured out the format for the intro: Chris: "Hello", Gary: *says something weird/ makes a bad joke*, Matt: *React to whatever Gary said and explain the premise*.

[@TheElaborinth8993]

That's been the format throughout Citation Needed

[@macoud12]

​@@TheElaborinth8993 No, it wasn't. This was the intro format for Citation Needed. Every episode begins with Tom introducing the panel, leaving gaps after their names for them to improvise. What they say is different each episode, but they usually use this template: Chris says a short variant of "hello." Gary ad-libs a silly sentence. Matt usually ends it with a variant of "Hello, KZbin!" Often in different languages, such as Swedish ("Hej hej"), French ("Bienvenue"), German ("Guten abend") and Arabic ("Marhaba").

[@MrFrostburner]

@@macoud12 Except the one season when Chris did amazing Alliterative sentences of awesome

[@sponge1234ify]

@@MrFrostburner also "NEPO SLIAN"

[@qwertyTRiG]

Now we need the format for the outro. Tricky, as they don't have one.

[@7211_]

“Clifford the clifftop mansion” is the best thing I’ve heard today

[@qwertyTRiG]

All the kids want to play in Clifford?

[@7211_]

TRiG (Ireland) a close second, of course

[@cinquine1]

Matt's pronunciation gamble was bold considering what Tom did in university.

[@joshuahadams]

Be a pirate?

[@Near_Void]

Buy some ducks?

[@acookie7548]

throw two drums and a cymbal off a cliff?

[@Near_Void]

Fly a kite in a public place?

[@mirjanbouma]

He studied linguistics and made a website on what to do in case of a zombie apocalypse.

[@TheFlyingBusman]

“Due to the winning candidate being dead”. Finally a politician you can rely upon not to lie to you!

[@andymcl92]

Well, he did lie, just horizontally...

[@georgelloydgonzalez]

What does a liar do when he's dead? He lies still.

[@Viniter]

I know this wasn't what were you going for with the format, but this makes for a really good pub game! I had great time playing this with my friends, with a slight modification: the person guessing changes every round (for the person who's article was guessed).

[@ragnkja]

According to Gary, Tom just isn't a good enough liar to convince any of them.

[@EvelynnEleonore]

THEY HAVE RETURNED

[@VagueHandWaving]

Congratulations, Tom. You have won an expedient trip to the galaxy's most famous taverns on a sci-fi spaceship. A breakneck Star-Trek bar trek

[@PascalSommerMovies]

"Tractors everywhere" seems odd, considering they had only just been invented right around that time..

[@ragnkja]

And didn't become commonplace until around WW1.

[@Dysan72]

I was going to say that was a little early for the protest to be tractors everywhere.

[@obliviousotterI]

More like Clydesdales everywhere

[@sebastisn3709]

When I saw this in my reccomended list my heart skipped a beat

[@timothymclean]

1:20: As a Midwesterner, that sounds far more plausible than Gary _and_ Matt's answer put together. Even before Chris explained it. 2:12: That geography also sounds about right.

[@qwertyTRiG]

Do you have a lot of minor vehicular events?

[@timothymclean]

@@qwertyTRiG Not personally, but for a while my brother would total his car every time he drove back to college. (His girlfriend started driving back after a couple cars.) Does that count as minor?

[@qwertyTRiG]

@@timothymclean That's major in my book.

[@ohay12]

SPOILER FOR ROUND 2: After looking on Wikipedia, something i found is that the Frederick Stanley in the story later became the Governor General of Canada, and the NHL's Stanley Cup is named after him! Even the most barren WIkipedia articles link to something interesting in just a click or two...

[@ciaranward3559]

I havent read your comment but bless you doing spoilers unlike SOME PEOPLE in this comment section

[@cuteswan]

BTW "The War Chief" was actually an underutilized _Doctor Who_ villain, despite being the most psychotically evil-looking renegade Time Lord ever. ;) Thanks for another fun game.

[@matthewdavies6470]

Merch idea - red T-shirt with “I like minor vehicular events” in 8bit font

[@TankR]

That pillow in the back is friggin creepy... Looks like someone partially phased through the sofa

[@noahmay7708]

The "I stress again, he was dead" part really got me. Haven't giggled like that in a long while.

[@OlanKenny]

Can I just say Chris' beard is magnificent

[@DavidAndrewsPEC]

It should have its own Twitter feed!

[@aaronhankey4857]

The Beard that's Feared

[@JohnDCrafton]

Yes, you can say that.

[@JohnDangcilGeekWere]

Right?!

[@DaHitch]

The way it bobs back and forth as he talks and turns his head, it’s absolutely mesmerising.

[@raf42]

13:21 Gary swiped the name "Stanley" from Chris's story.

[@kaboomer13]

Matt and Tom: "We're going irregular". If I told my doctor I was irregular and that meant I have a movement once or twice a year, he'd probably be concerned. Love your stuff! Wish there was more!

[@Halosty45]

I figured out it wasn't Gary when he said it was Stanley after that name had already been used- though it could have been a coincidence.

[@loolloll5236]

The camera that is pointed directly at Tom does seem to really dislike the color of his T-Shirt.

[@bachaddict]

It's a 360 camera that they clip out each person from

[@robburgess4556]

"That's the noise your mother made last night" Oh gawd, I can't stop laughing!

[@heidizetzsche8930]

After just binge watching the whole playlist I have to say I'm deeply impressed by the guys talent to just come up with the most creative plausible answers on the fly and not even flinching when telling the stories. Especially Matt, I salute you for your skills.

[@DavidRosstheawesome]

Missed opportunity for Matt to explain the game with "In front of us, we have an almost randomly selected article..."

[@NoahW]

“It’s a Croatian festival” *uvular fricative*

[@Embattled5211]

Tom as a linguist should have caught that! He was onto it as well right at the end but never called him outright.

[@NoahW]

rate eightx I’m aware that Croatian has the velar fricative, but I’m not sure that it would be too obvious to an Englishman who can’t read IPA that /x/ is one of those sounds.

[@gudetamak4420]

It's a spiritual festival for commemorating the dead in China, source : am Chinese

[@PascalSommerMovies]

“It's a Croatian festival” *contains spelling “gh”*

[@NoahW]

Pascal Sommer Yeah, I thought about that tio.

[@kinsnuf]

Welcome back, TechDiff! I'm so hyped for this new season and I'm so hyped for this new format. Thank you for brightening up my Thursdays! :D

[@BoraCM]

As soon as Gary mentioned Lord Stanley, which Chris had already mentioned, I knew he was lying.

[@DukeBG]

It felt to me that in the second round Chris barely told anything. And it's funny, but that article (1878 North Lancashire by-election) is actually a stub, consisting only from two sentences. And most entertainingly, that incumbent person - Frederick Stanley - is the namesake of NHL Stanley Cup, but that didn't turn up to be brought up in the show in any way.

[@gaspodeneil]

I want "Minor Vehicular Events" merch

[@Epinardscaramel]

2:10 Oh god, for a second I thought someone was lying down on the couch behind you!

[@vtario5]

"Croatia, Matt." I fully expected the reply to be a simple description of what Croatia is rather than any useful information.

[@ThePixel1983]

Going full Leslie Nielsen.

[@AbbeyB77]

The Wikipedia stub for the 1878 North Lancashire By-Election was just edited to reflect that it's noteworthy for being mentioned in this show. It extended the article from one sentence to two.

[@kaziiqbal7257]

I need to see a compilation of Brannan bullying Tom

[@chasm9557]

This is definitely my favorite thing you guys have come up with. Random information, improv, and hilarious lies.

[@TheThomasites]

"I've won a thing!" -Tom Scott.

[@tibsie]

“Stanley with a K” Stankley?

[@justwobert9850]

No, Kstanley

[@57thorns]

@@justwobert9850 And the K is silent.

[@U014B]

"Stinkoman", but it's pronounced "Stanley"

[@Ian_Wallace.]

Maybe it's the new Stanley Tools logo seen from a distance?

[@oz_jones]

Ktanley

[@GigglingChinchilla]

A creative festival in Croatia? Surely that has to be called Creatia.

[@Laurabeck329]

As a croatian I can tell you we're not smart enough to make that pun.

[@ragnkja]

@@Laurabeck329 You're probably better at coming up with Croatian puns than English ones.

[@minty5221]

@@ragnkja nah, we rarely use puns. We mostly rely on words with double meanings, not words that sound like other words

[@ragnkja]

Minty Those are also puns.

[@elkudos1]

It's 1878, and there are TRACTORS EVERYWHERE?! How far in the future had Britain lived back then?!

[@brianna6377]

There is actually a British novel about a man who time traveled to the past and 'modernized' the country only to have it revert back the instant he stopped paying attention. Dominic Noble did a review of it. .....Naturally it was a work of fiction. I assume.

[@elkudos1]

@@brianna6377 Oh, Russia has a lot of those Les Visiteurs-style alternative history titles. About rejuvenation of the Greatest Generation of WWII vets in a secret lab and their exploits with the Demigod Stalin in outer space. Sometimes it is about defeating Japan with mechas in 1905. People usually frown on sci-fi nowadays, because most of it is so popular with alt-right nuts.

[@kamikazegargoyle]

there's almost the same thing in japan so as soon as gary said "seventh month" i knew it was his

[@GospelOfIHM]

one small note about the hell bank notes: they're more commonly used for funerals/visiting the graves of family members. you burn it as like a symbolic "giving money" to the deceased

[@ragnkja]

“Tractors everywhere” wouldn’t have been in 1878, because tractors didn’t become commonplace until the 20th century.

[@MrCrackedKMan]

I thought that too

[@SlyPearTree]

Protests are much more effective when time travel is involved.

[@OriginalPiMan]

Unions were mentioned too, and unions were very rare until the tail end of the 19th century. Not something that would instantly rule it out, but something that would make me suspicious; 1878 is barely late enough.

[@timothymclean]

​@@SlyPearTree "Thanks for providing support to our protest, Mr. Future, but why did you bring this giant hunk of metal?" "It's a farming tool, to symbolize that you're farmers!" "...we already have our own farming tools to use as symbols." "Oh yeah!"

[@tommydoez]

@@timothymclean A red banner is slowly raised

[@daviddechamplain5718]

In my town's last mayoral campaign one of the candidates died and got about 30% of the vote. I have no clue what would have happened had she won.

[@DavidRosstheawesome]

They would have got a necromancer

[@qwertyTRiG]

In some countries, it's normal to allow someone who died shortly before an election to stay on the ballot. If they're elected, there's an immediate bye-election. It's fairer than just leaving them off the ballot, because it allows the party time to put a new candidate forward.

[@meatballg8655]

“For all the young’uns out there ghost riding?” It was at this moment I knew, at 20 years old, I’m no longer young

[@erinpeterson3202]

i was just rewatching the old episodes last night and thinking how i was hoping you'd release more!

[@RegebroRepairs]

It's a version of Balderdash, which is one of my favorite games, where you pick a random unusual word and people have to make up definitions for it.

[@petrbroz7145]

YAY, it's back! I really hope this format stays fun for you guys for a long time, because I love it!

[@Adowrath]

This is already the 2nd time I'm watching it and I'm not expecting to watch it less than a dozen times this month. And it still is, and will be everytime, extremely funny.

[@Liggliluff]

(14:30) Even events that doesn't happen still have articles: 1940 Summer Olympics 1944 Summer Olympics Eurovision Song Contest 2020 1934 Estonian State Elder election ... and more

[@frankxie7846]

... Seems like the self-contained underwater breathing apparatus has gone out of fashion...

[@arnaudmenard5114]

I never was one for fashion.

[@hotscottrulz]

“What is the name of Matt Grey’s penis?”

[@Pikachu0071000CS]

I like how Matt managed to come up with something for the 1878 North Lancashire By-Election, yet not the Plot of the Rue Saint Nicaise

[@UseZapCannon]

Hooray for similes. Chris says "a series of minor vehicular events," which he meant as "obscure recurring festivals that involve vehicles," but which sounded like "a mysterious trail of automobile incidents"

[@sam08g16]

Holy cow, yesterday I thought to myself "when is another 2 are lying episode being released... "! Thanks for capturing my thoughts 2000km away

[@gayahithwen]

I really like this concept, and I hope you do more of them once you can all be in a room together again (and/or film on zoom)

[@joshthenesnerd]

i love this game. i'm so glad we've got another series of it.

[@TrondBørgeKrokli]

Thank you for still making me grin and enjoy myself every time you make a new episode. This is definitely one of the highlights of the week for me. Thank you again! 😎👍

[@curiousfirely]

Nice to see Matt and housemates tidied up for this run of episodes!

[@catfish552]

Now I just need to know where Gary's story about the election is actually from, because it definitely sounds like a real thing.

[@Incognitus30]

yeet another episode, this is my second favourite series right after citation needed

[@andrineslife]

I'm not even two minutes into this and it is already perfect 😍😂

[@NorbiPeti]

This was the first series I discovered from y'all thanks to the "two drums and a cymbal fall off a cliff" video lol

[@qwertyTRiG]

That was a bit of a jump from Two Drums and a Cymbal till Two of These People Are Lying. Tom did a lot of other excellent stuff between those two.

[@NorbiPeti]

@@qwertyTRiG Well I definitely didn't see that video when it came out, just found it randomly somewhere and was surprised that they were still making videos. Popular ones, too.

[@qwertyTRiG]

@@NorbiPeti Tom's output is wonderfully varied, and now that there are four (!) channels to choose from, even more so.

[@Dugiedugdug]

Hook this up to live voting and itd make an amazing interactive stream

[@HugoBDesigner]

So glad to see this series back! It's my favorite from The Technical Difficulties!

[@gandalfsmom]

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS BACK!!!!!!!! I really missed Citation Needed, but this is a wonderful replacement

[@Cyortonic]

I literally watched all of the previous episodes yesterday and wondered when y'all were going to make a new one. My prayers have been answered!

[@bjrn-oskarrnning2740]

Yes! More Technical Difficulties! I was getting withdrawals after binging all of Citation Needed! Can't get enough of you guys, keep it up!

[@maxresdefault_]

It’s so great seeing the Technical Dificulties after all this time. Always up for watching these.

[@cjkitty3603]

I was so glad to see this in my feed today... I'm so glad you guys are making a second season!

[@skytek7081]

I would love to see more of this from the TechDiff gang, but I also like the format and would dig seeing other peoples takes on it.

[@coryman125]

Ooh, very happy to see this game back! It's a brilliant idea for a format :D

[@entropiCCycles]

0:15 No, Matt, it's made by Scotland Yard.

[@peterpeter5214]

Thank you so much for bringing this back

[@TheBassHeavy]

Very glad you have done more of this format, it's great!

[@yondie491]

But it *IS* pronounced Host-Festival! There isn't a time this isn't entertaining.

[@iNinBreak]

as someone from the netherlands in the year 2021 where farmers are mass protesting alot of the time with their tractor (and yea they were everywhere) this is amazing to hear

[@hayakawaken9493]

Ah, I 'member the Ghost Festival, when my grandma set the neighborhood park/elderly gambling site on fire and told the firefighters to 'frick off'. Such a lovely day it is.

[@tagnarth]

I hope the Technical Difficulties never stop. I want to see you guys still bantering about in 30 years time

[@woodrobin]

Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds but with cars -- yeah, Stephen King's Maximum Overdrive. A world where machines self-animate and start attacking people. The main action is around a group of survivors held hostage at a gas station/convenience store by vehicles that are keeping the humans alive to operate the fuel pumps.

[@JoeBleasdaleReal]

Chris miming IPA was me 😂😂😂🍺

[@mathbookhero]

Oh hell yes this is gonna be a blast! Thanks yall for great times with these games.

[@gigglingmaniacly7883]

How wonderful to see the four of you back together!

[@anime991]

YES! I was just starting to get the need for more TechDiff

[@AmazingJellyfish]

This is a great series. Thank you for sharing your fun with us all to enjoy

[@RoyCostaCycles]

Here in Singapore some people even burn entire paper 'banks', 'sportscars' and even 'credit cards' so that their ancestors can use them in the afterlife (during the Ghost Festival)

[@MrCrackedKMan]

I am so happy right now just sat down with a bag of crips a bottle of pop and a new video of the technical difficulties not planned

[@GrubbyZebra]

Bloody hell, I keep googling the lies because they are such good stories!

[@thelastcube.]

Chris "minor vehicular events" Joe Gary "i don't want to convince Tom" Brannan Matt "Tractors everywhere" Gray

[@MoeGamingLPS]

It’s always fun to watch one of these pre-looking up and knowing which one is correct

[@kyleclark6997]

Spoilers... Huh, the Stanley guy in Chris' article is who the Stanley Cup is named after. TIL