Things people say to annoy a METALHEAD

[@NikNocturnalTwitchClips]

*Make sure to check out Farvann's channel ❤:* kzbin.info/door/vIzz-SZdAyOBfwSFB-yIAw

[@griefforest1870]

Already have since a couple of years. There is a really healthy smaller german underground Metal KZbin scene with 12-16 channels who really knock it out of the park. It started around 2016/2017 and is its own microcosm now. Many of them also do lifestreams and podcasts etc. With Farvanns english videos he has the biggest reach yet. They are also able to interview a lot of musicians, be it underground bands or legends

[@123owly]

Adding screams/distortion to music is like adding hot sauce to food. Some people like spicy food, some can't stomach it. Some people like bland food, others want their entire head to go numb.

[@christianhackl474]

Wow that's a good explanation! Thx dude, I'll make a note of that for the future if someone's asking or shit-talking bout metal music/metal screamers

[@footsoljier6468]

And you can always build tolerance

[@Abominable_Intelligences]

Agreed 100%!

[@mafjigo]

good analogy

[@thebuckethatguy]

True

[@Acheronians]

you explaining screaming like distortion on a guitar blew my mind because you're absolutely 100% correct. like holy shit why haven't i thought of it that way? thank you Nik!

[@mihaghoraprime6263]

"Why screams? Why distortion?" Because it sounds good to me. That's the only reason. Music is just sound, and sound is another sense for pleasure.

[@thomasbowen2006]

As a gen z metal head, I’m gonna relate to this SO SO much

[@NikNocturnalTwitchClips]

Enjoyyyy 'Phrost

[@bleedblack23666]

Lmao same

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

I'm Cringing but yeah same

[@Enfield15]

I am also a Gen z Metalhead and I get shit like this so much, also I do dress a lot like the dude in this video.

[@pandashreddstheguitar]

Bro same, my teachers are always giving me shit about listening to metal.

[@aldendunne]

Here’s how I describe metal to non metal heads. “Ask any little boy what his favourite animal is, it’s going to be a dinosaur or a lion or a bear. It’s powerful, makes us feel big and strong, it’s fun.”

[@veenoir1991]

dude if guitars were people, my old schecter would have divorced me ages ago

[@kidnamedpenis]

if guitars were people, my cort would've been a disabled hobo

[@iron_serpent_2293]

No joke how a lot of conversations with my roommate go. Especially the whole “This is Devil music, so I don’t listen to it” argument.

[@cyrus8586]

My dad says that about metal drums all the time. Thinks metal is “pretentious” Because it’s just “look how many notes I can play in a second” then sits here thinking the ramones drummer is the pinnacle of drumming.

[@reverb2516]

When people call it screamo i die inside. That is the most annoying thing i get

[@v35p3r4]

A friend of mine calls all metal 'emo'

[@sctkarter1111]

Is anything really even called screamo anymore? That feels very early 2000s lol

[@WunDunWorks]

I was talking with my friend before Metal grew on him a little bit but a few a couple years ago he was asking why I liked metal and basically all the stuff you’ve heard BUT… he said “why do you like drums in it if every time you hit it it sounds different” and I am not kidding, and that shit blew me away

[@Elenuay]

Meanwhile drummers in the Metal scene get shit for triggering their drums, to sound more consistent lmao I did hear that the drums can be too fast or overwhelming to people before, but not like this xD

[@RisingPhoenixLily]

1:18 Actually it does. Boyfriend used to be in a band around 10 years ago or more, and he confronted issues with his vocals with the constant growling singing during that time. He haven't singed with growls ever since. I have to add that I love Alissa from Arch Enemy for her growling singing (and growl and clean in Handshake with Hell song, badass).

[@tpakTaddeus]

Yeah obviously but some people cant just accept it.

[@trentonseibold4806]

Nik will not stand for any Limp Bizkit slander 😂

[@NikNocturnalTwitchClips]

😂 'Phrost

[@digitalmortality2001]

What kind of depraved being would?

[@Werewolf914]

My reaction to Limp Bizkit fans is the same as Farvanns at the end of the video, Linkin Park is what I grew up on and we didn't talk about Biscuits in my household and that's a rule I've kept even as an adult I don't care if the Bizkit is limp or erect that's a bad word and we don't say it or even worse listen to it anywhere near me.

[@EnigmaEnginseer]

@@Werewolf914 What’s wrong with biscuits? Some gravy makes them pretty solid

[@yakkoyuuzou3816]

Screaming is to express a strong emotion, like rage, to express excitement, it gives you adrenaline, to express discontent with something or someone, to express suffering, music is to express emotions like any type of art, it can be harsh and brutal or soft and sweet.

[@Sibaspapu]

you know what annoys me, when people listen to any kind of metal or when they hear a song with a guitar and they say "oh it's ROCK"

[@bottomofastairwell]

That doesn't bother me because technically metal is a sub genre of rock. But metal is definitely its OWN thing and I wished more people respected it. It's such a varied genre with so many different bands under its umbrella. Way more people should listen to metal

[@Safaridor]

I thought the whole “worship satan” thing was just trolling all the crazy Christians at the time. But some people heard the jokes and started setting up shrine’s seriously

[@Metalhead_i..i]

im not kidding, someone came up to me and said that they listen to metal too, and mentioned nickelback. seriously. i was like 😵‍💫 ah yeah, cool, cool cool.

[@AlphaOmega417]

That hurt me in the dark part of my soul.

[@-kiichi-]

He forgot the best one: ,,He should go to dentist, rather than capitalize on his pain"

[@Guitard_1]

Unpitched screaming is very percussive so the way i explain to people is that it’s like drums with voice

[@trs5127]

I've definitely heard the "why are the drums so fast it's loud and annoying" bit from people

[@MrChristianDT]

That's often how I feel about the vocals in rap music, though, I'm not gonna lie. Can't hear myself think. Lol

[@DrThemoWorm]

I get slightly annoyed with people thinking "any music with screaming in it" = screamo. Like, no, screamo is its own subgenre based on emo music. Tell 'em that though and it goes in one ear and out the other. I've only had one friend act like metal is something you're supposed to grow out of after high school, but also he doesn't know anything. I will say there are some bands I certainly grew out of, just stopped appealing to me, but the genre as a whole? There's something for everyone.

[@Ilikeguitarsandcats]

Yeah pretty much, I get so annoyed when people call it screamo and try and explain to it that it’s a different thing entirely, but that goes right through them. I feel like partially cause they want to keep making fun of it lol

[@sctkarter1111]

I can’t believe “How do you even know what they’re saying?” Didn’t make the cut. That’s gotta be up there in like top 5 most said things

[@Dwendele]

As an OG metalhead, I get it. I was there for the 80s.... That being said, I'm not a huge fan of most of the screaming or growls. There's a few bands I like and a few songs from quite a few more bands that use that vocal style. I also sang in a few metal bands, so I know that screams aren't easy and can completely destroy your voice if not done right. So I appreciate it... Its just not my style.

[@kathatri1371]

Try listen to Amorphis. That singer has a beautiful clean singing voice and adds some really cool growling. Not too aggressive but still aggressive. Just listen (maybe the newest album „Hallo“) and thank me later.😉

[@loganryan1317]

Listening/creating aggressive music = happy mellow individuals

[@Ilikeguitarsandcats]

Yeah, a lot of metal musicians are some of the most mentally well people out there.

[@mohammedaminefarid8389]

You add distortion to singing or to guitars because it brings forward a vibe, a feeling, an emotion. That's what music is about, it is an art form that people make to express something they want to express. Art is subjective, and if you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad, it means it is just not for you. Also, yes they can sing clean in metal, cause the techniques the artist wants to use are his decision to make to best portray his ideas. And that is also the beauty of it, it is a testament to the diversity of people. It's all subjective.

[@TheStrykerProject]

My mom was OK with metal, of which I inundated her with back in the 80's. She told me she liked "Kill 'em All" once...yes, the whole album! 😆

[@MrChristianDT]

Yeah, it really threw me when I watched a video that did the top song of every single month from Jan. 1980- Dec. 2022 & seeing just how rarely rock/ metal music ever got on it, even during eras you primarily associate with rock music. Only genre that gets on there less seems to be country.

[@Faydwarf]

lol i just came from a video talking about whats great about metal vocals and they said that screamo was not metal in any way and they wish people would stop using that term because its wrong. it is amusing to hear typical things people say why they dont like harsh vocals and your right, its obviously to make a sound thats not stero typical or something new. this is why Niche is a word, its not for everyone

[@Ilikeguitarsandcats]

Yeah I get quite pissed off when my friends call it screamo

[@brittgardner2923]

3:50 You don't know fear until you have played a gig with a jazz drummer.

[@eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063]

Its like how some cant see how simple pop is …with metal- complex music for complex people! So simple music for simple people lol

[@swarthygiant1463]

Pretty sure this has already been brought up on your channel but screaming is often pretty non-melodic which throws people off, but so is rap so that’s another parallel people will understand. If you listen to meshuggah the screams are basically another percussion instrument focussed on rhythm and tamber

[@groovywoomy]

A brief summary of how I explained it to my incredibly sheltered friend in middle school: Her: Wha-what is this? Why is this? Me: Because YES… You in a bad mood? Screams👌🏻 You in a good mood? Screams👌🏻 Not in the mood for screams? You’re lying to yourself! 🎉 We all feel like screaming on the inside. These people just take the time to do it outwardly in musical form and I listen to it because it soothes the anger I feel constantly boiling in my soul. It also helps motivate me to get through the day because sometimes it’s really hard and it gives me the extra energy I need to keep going. A lot of the songs are actually pretty motivational if you look up the lyrics. *proceeded to show lyrics to songs I enjoyed (Pretty sure it was Of Mice and Men or Crown the Empire cause I was really into them at the time)* She now listens to metal on her own occasionally and I’m proud! She prefers instrumentals to vibe to, but that’s understandable sometimes I do too.

[@1mawil1]

Have you seen the idubbbz and his girlfriend nickleback clip? It's hilarious, i can't not think about it any time i hear the word nickleback now 😂😂

[@1Lordgore]

I consider metal vocals as an instrument. Sure theres lyrics but I pay it very little mind unless im truly interested in it. Just an instrument for me.

[@MJ-vd8bj]

Same. I only try to know the lyrics if I wanna sing along to

[@SlyHikari03]

“Why screams? Why distortion” Bruh, that stuff is live.

[@Tweeksmc]

Most accurate thing I’ve seen all day

[@tokinGLX]

as a 42 year old who loves metal my personal opinion is that constantly screaming vocals = crap vocals that end up ruining a song that musically was very good.

[@intrepidexplorer306]

Great video by the way!! :)

[@randommetalhead7]

5:16 Fred Durst.

[@Dylan_Dragontail]

You really should watch more farvaan videos, they seem perfect for your style of humor.

[@Werewolf914]

I love Farvann, also when someone calls Metal Satanic I usually just say to them "no that's just true Black Metal that does that" never heard the drum or guitar one, the screaming one is the one that is most common even my Little Brother being the dumb ass he is says screaming takes no talent and is just noise and he thinks he can scream and I've had to tell him time after time Metal screaming isn't yelling, and I've shown him Lorna Shore or Infant Annihilator or other Deathcore vocals and told him if he can do it and it takes no skill then lets hear him make that Tasmanian Devil sound

[@christianheinrich1418]

That just isnt true rhough. Satanism isnt a basic in every black metal band and also is happening in other subgenres but not as often

[@bottomofastairwell]

@@christianheinrich1418 and also like, has anyone ever actually looked into satanism? It's actually a super cook and chill religion. The church of Satan over here lobbying for bodily autonomy and equal rights (for real) and everyone just using them as scapegoat.

[@Vrangar717]

My Grandmother said to me that Kiss are loud and hard music I don't think I can like her anymore

[@intrepidexplorer306]

As a metalhead i can confirm

[@KenBober]

When people ask me what I listen to I don't waste my time explaining. I just say angry cookie monster. They immediately get it.

[@NoHatJack]

Thx nik for introducing me to metal, I love the biscuit btw

[@niklasbreuer3071]

My father has a rumning gag telling every metalhead pulls coffins across graveyards xD

[@Garthydude12]

I tried to get my friends to listen to Sleep Token recently and even after explaining they’re not all that heavy. they still wouldn’t simply because they have associations with metal 😂🤦‍♂️

[@bottomofastairwell]

Which is so dumb, because their newest song aqua Regia is arguably more jazzy than anything. Plus, that dude's voice is sexy as hell. Who wouldn't want to listen to that? Just put it on and don't yell them it's sleep token. That's what I do with my close minded friends. I just play the fan thing and when they're finally like "oh, I like this who is it" I just dead pan tell them "that band I've been trying to get you to Listen to forever that I've been telling you you would like. Huh. Guess I was right"

[@NoHatJack]

as a gen Z who recently discovered Metal i feel like I have finally found my pack

[@berrycollou6326]

How is it possible to worship Satan while we don't have any lyrics 'cause "it's just a bunch of screaming"? And just another nice one(or stupid just how you wanna see it). "You can't even understand what they're saying with all that screaming". *Listens to 'Despacito' but doesn't speak a word Spanish....

[@NoHatJack]

5:12 Don’t you dare talk shit about the biscuit

[@zach_attakk]

I call Nickleback Heavy Arena Rock. Like Bon Jovi with balls

[@xamislimelight8965]

Best part about deathcore: you can write the lyrics a whole month after recording. I don't actually think this, I just like metal jokes

[@diefordethklok3711]

“You’re a rap rock band with a DJ?” “YEEEEAAAHHH BOYYYYY” “can someone tell these guys what year it is” - Metalocalypse

[@dragonblazer96]

I did have someone once try to explain to me why they thought Creed was metal lol

[@elemef2801]

Others: This is just too heavy *me knowing songs that will actually make you Lucifer*: Yea gottcha :/

[@VoVilliaCorp]

the singing clean thing was great lol

[@majo4377]

I know a dude that was like ,,it's all just people screaming at you ans e-guitars aren't even real guitars"

[@isajmody2344]

I mean, Dimebag appeared on a Nickelback track, I suppose.

[@Jahamesmma]

If a non metal head told me that screamsinging takes no skill I’d just say you do it then and then he or she wouldn’t be able to

[@gergoretvari6373]

if they fuck up their voice while they do the "screaming" i would just laugh and say they just showed their ignorance

[@Jahamesmma]

@@gergoretvari6373 just voice crack like a middle school boy and then ask for water cause they’re throat hurts😂

[@exhaustedallthetime]

Just as dubstep producers use mixing boards and music programs to make sounds other than the limited physical instruments we have, metal singers probably want to make their voice sound like more than a default human voice by singing differently than pop singers or whatever. I’m a huge fan of dubstep, preferably fast paced, and if the type of shit I listen too were personified it would sound way more terrifying just because it’s a human singing it and I think a lot of people don’t realize that the human voice is an instrument, and can be altered

[@JeiCos]

"Has anyone ever said Nickleback?" ..no..but I DID have someone tell me they listened to death metal..And I asked what bands, and they said........Linkin Park....lol So..yea..that's a real thing people do lol

[@juhel5531]

Aeris and Mikasa by Veil of Maya is a literal worship song. There is an entire band called boughtbyblood or bxb in the Philippines that holds Christian metal worship sessions.

[@Salacious_T]

I think you're describing From Dusk til Dawn.

[@FourTHat3]

"Why the sudden attack on "Attack! Attack!"?" It's the same reason why they're called "Attack! Attack!" *wink-wink*

[@Chaosek]

hi i am not a nickleback fan but i know about at least one heavy song "Side of a Bullet". Try it ;] you will see why i know? my girlfriend asked me to learn a nickleback song on a guitar .. so this is what i choose :D

[@silviahannak3213]

Lol. That was funny ..but i never got questions like them..looking out for them.

[@brozy5720]

Well, I mean, you CAN forgive a non-metalhead for categorising Nickelback as metal. The same way you can categorize Eminem as pop. Seriously though, if somebody asked my questions like that, I usually asked the questioner about their fav music and then astonish him with my knowledge about his music and in 7-8 out 10 times, that person withdrew the question and said something along the lines of "Oh, I thought, you metalheads only listen to metal. Maybe I should expand outside my music genre as well." By the way, Nik, just read about you in 'Metal Hammer'. Nice to see your familiar face in there.

[@bottomofastairwell]

I honestly think that people who like metal are some of the most well rounded in terms of musical variety. Cuz when I tell oriole I listen to EVERYTHING they don't think I'm serious. Until they find it i went to see Andrea Bocelli and then immediate went to a race right afterwards. (Saw bad Omens the night before. It was a great weekend). So yeah, chances are, whatever music you like, I've listened to a bunch of that too. That always shocks people. Then again, in shocked by people who only restrict themselves to a single genre, cuz i just don't get that. Sure, I prefer Rock and metal, that's my favorite genre. But who doesn't listen to other stuff too?

[@mikeroconsole]

My mom calls metal “screamo” all the time 😂

[@giadadisc2509]

Me: listening to Korn and Parkway Drive at work. My colleague: "oh, I like hard rock too!". Me: 🥲 (at least she liked it??)

[@themilkynipple2801]

My dad always asks “how do you listen to that screaming shit?” And “do you even know what the lyrics are about?” Then when i try to show him something or explain he just says “thats not music its just noise.” Ive just stopped trying, no matter how many times i try to explain he just doesnt get it, hes ignorant

[@bottomofastairwell]

My mom was like this about anime, always called it that "jap crap" I watch. They're are just some people in the world who think that their way, their idea, are the only correct ones. I think it stems from a sense of superiority. They think they're better than other people, and therefore, so are the things they like. Which means of you like something different, it's automatically discounted as crap. Now, in one of those people that sees people enjoying things, and maybe those things aren't my cup of tea, or I don't get it. But I just go, good for them, they're having fun and they're happy. We don't all have to like the same things. I don't shit on other people and put down the things they like, because that's childish, and ultimately, really entitled, to think you know better. Sounds like your dad is just one of those people who wants to be right. So yeah, don't bother trying to explain it to him he's never going to get it. And that's because he doesn't want to understand. He doesn't care. He just wants to be right and he thinks the music he likes is better and you're probably not gonna convince him otherwise. Bit the good news is that when you grow up and you're in your 30s like me, you can do whatever you. And if that means you want to spend your money on tickets to metal shows and then you have to buy new glasses cuz they get broken in a moshpit, you can do that. (And no, im not mad about my broken glasses at all, cuz that was a freaking blast and I'd do it again). Anyway, keep loving what you love. Keep listening to things you enjoy. And fuck anyone who tries to shit on the things that make you happy

[@Matjo7588dk]

My biggest issues with people who "complains" about metal, is the issue I have when people generally complain about something. They have not really taken the time to know about the subject. Americans complaining about taxes or socialism with understanding that the average person have more money for themselves in a healthy tax system. Or when people complain about metal and say Limp Bizkit is metal. I don't mind if metal is not for someone. But you can't speak to it if you have not actually taken the time to know about it. Same with food. I don't like veggies.. I don't eat fish its disgusting. Its so unintelligent to just have statements like that, because the topic has so many things to it.

[@djentrification1631]

Definitely. Like, the people that are always making the most noise about how little they like metal can’t even articulate why they hate it. How am I supposed explain why I enjoy it if we can’t even speak on the same wavelength?

[@stinkylobster9751]

DEALERS BACK BABY

[@landonthrone7361]

3:45 people who think this are also drummers... I'm a drummer... and I'm sad I suck lol

[@thomashalley7258]

If you go off of guitar tuning Nickelback is metal. But singing definitely southern rock or hard rock.

[@thegiron8730]

Been playing guitar since i was 8, or 10 cant remember, learned pretty much all of my favorite songs, and what people tell me to annoy me whenever i play netallica or pretty much a trendy song now a days they are all like "omg you learned that song from stranger things (master of puppets) its really annoying but i guess, just have to live with idiots

[@Vorthulusgaming]

Metal is cathartic too us metal heads, and just like metal annoys people who hatebour genre of choice if I hear pop or rap my skin crawls especially if I hear obvious auto tune in it and people with insane base with their music cranked rattling the car apart; I mean they're smart enough to install the audio system but not enough to add some fuckin foam strips to prevent rattling wtf.

[@C.N.A.C.]

Four out of five members of Limp Bizkit are a great band.

[@Seven7Pain1]

yes nik agrees nothing wrong with limp bizkit three dollar bill yall album slams and Wes Borland is a riff machine have you tried some of his finger tapping its complex not easy like his riffs

[@stinkylobster9751]

Hey uhm I think Dealer is coming back I’ve seen a new post by Aidan and some of the guitarists that the dealersound is following

[@MickBiker88]

A jazz drummer i knew used to tell me "bruh in metal drums is just noise, a monkey hitting stuff hardand fast". And i'm like yeah, i get that jazz is very technical but how can you be so disrispectful just 'cause you don't like something. Hated that guy.

[@MrChristianDT]

Trying to indoctrinate my neice & nephew, albeit most of my taste is symphonic metal & the early 2000s Alt rock & emo stuff. Kind of funny, showing a 1 yr old girl Ad Infinitum & then watching her wander around the room growling at random, though. Lol

[@wahpedl]

Non-metalheads: distortion😡😡😡😡😡 Metalheads: distortion😌😌😌😌😌

[@diegolopezzz18]

Lol the metal head ended up being legitimately the bad guy 😅

[@omerta316]

There should be a guitar where you play it it's Michael Winslow making guitar distortion

[@philipmeinhard4364]

Farvann!!

[@lindzee7410]

Fun vid. Poor Nickelback. Lol

[@lens_hunter]

Im really really picky about unclean vocals. I rarely talk to non- metalheads about metal, so I haven't heard any of this stuff.

[@gustavomayor8595]

I love how the non metalheads get annoyed by the distortion and mention Beatles. "What you mean?" You might ask... well, Beatles is a rock n' roll band and have songs like Paperback Writer who use overdrive, which is the beginning of distortion. Even songs like Come Together use overdrive, so mentioning Beatles to complain about distortion is absolutely bullshit

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

[@randyman1331]

I always hated "I listen to metal, One by Metallica is the best" 😞

[@SlipknotFan47]

I eat goat… but not recently…it leaves a weird taste and smell. Also i don’t really eat meat anymore…

[@alexandercorey850]

Limp Bizkit is always the scapegoat. In 2023, I still listen to their first 3 albums... Loud. 🤘

[@SamBrockmann]

There's everything wrong with Limp Bizkit.

[@DK-th5nt]

You can like or dislike screaming but I don't understand how can anyone come to conclusion that screaming is easy and anyone could do this. I'm always wondering how it is possible that this singer can still talk after all this screaming lol.

[@bottomofastairwell]

Right? Like have you ever tried it? That shit is hard and your voice hurts after. And any real vocal coach or someone well trained in vocal techniques will tell you that it takes a TON of skill to do all those distorted and unclean vocals without damaging your voice. (Side note: the technique and science behind it is pretty cool, the way you engage your fake vocal chords instead of your regular ones and open your larynx. Then again, maybe im just a nerd) It's actual VERY technical, at least, if you want to to do it the right way. And any singer who wants to have longevity in their career has to learn to do it right so they don't trash their voice. That's my rebuttal for people who think it's so easy. I tell them to do it then. And then to keep doing it for hours every day (like a singer would when touring). Oh? You can't? Because it's not actually that easy? Yeah, that's right

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

mhm.

[@Gorerupted]

the thing that annoys me the most is that people assume that every metalhead listen to metallica or iron maiden... thats absolutely not true at all :p i dont like them...

[@xVibur]

I’ve never had anyone really complain about metal or say it takes no skill, usually when I play metalcore they just think it’s trash 😂😂😂

[@gergoretvari6373]

only smelly elitists would say blasphemy like that

[@rhuckzzy]

-poser-😤

[@DapVisuals]

screamo

[@dreno-]

I was listening to tiktak then i heard this white guy and now my favorite metal band is MGK 😍

[@665denierofthebeast]

CAn CoNfirM