Third Fleet Podcast #9 - Monster Hunter Lore Discussion with BannedDino

[@shantanudharanala3351]

Great episode! Here are some more tasty time stamps, tell me if I missed anything. (1:57:24 is a particular highlight) 1:37 thoughts on rise so far 8:24 creation 14:29 the guild 22:29 handler 25:35 favorite guild receptionist (guildmarm Sophia=best girl) 30:25 BannedDino lore + future stuff 33:10 guild crest 33:54 the ancients 40:37 equal dragon weapon 48:26 other societies 56:20 kokoto village + wyverians 1:04:24 fatalis + scarlet man 1:12:50 lao Shan lung 1:14:46 cool 1st gen monsters 1:19:09 rath deviants/rare/subspecies 1:23:13 yian garuga 1:27:22 pokke village 1:30:37 tigrex 1:33:37 akantor + ukanlos 1:42:35 chameleos 1:45:33 mogha village 1:48:16 ceadeus+ cannibal nergigante 1:54:14 qurupeco 1:55:54 ivory lagiacrus 1:57:19 mud penis moment 1:57:48 yukumo 2:00:03 duramboros 2:04:10 mizutsune 2:09:09 4u 2:13:28 ace cadet 2:16:34 ace commander 2:17:39 magalas 2:23:43 apex system ( * ptsd flashbacks to apex rajang *) 2:28:32 steve (seregios) 2:29:49 gogmazios 2:35:14 GenU 2:38:30 gammoth 2:42:40 hunting styles and arts 2:48:05 astalos 2:51:08 glavenus 2:52:42 theory on the styles 2:54:11 deviants 3:02:14 valstrax 3:07:20 ahtal-ka 3:15:41 MHWorld 3:23:09 rotten vale 3:26:15 velkhana 3:28:57 kulve taroth 3:33:22 Shara 3:36:54 rise lore speculation

[@vivid8979]

Somebody give this guy an UP!

[@cjanoel]

well done

[@GarliccDread]

Bless 👑

[@ragingdawn1583]

thank you, sir!

[@solcam8249]

Doing God's work!

[@Darkherojl]

Haha. The position of the portrait looks like : Ruri : “look out, Gaijin! Lagi behind you!” Gaijin: *surprised Palico face Dino: raaaaargh

[@kai9755]

You sir just made me giggle

[@maxwellgage3483]

you prolly dont care but does anybody know of a way to log back into an Instagram account?? I somehow lost the account password. I would love any assistance you can give me

[@jasperjesse5095]

@Maxwell Gage Instablaster =)

[@maxwellgage3483]

@Jasper Jesse thanks for your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm trying it out atm. I see it takes quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.

[@maxwellgage3483]

@Jasper Jesse it did the trick and I now got access to my account again. I am so happy:D Thank you so much, you saved my ass!

[@kingofflames738]

The Scarlet Mystery Man is one of my favourite quest givers. His creepy wording and almost gleefully reactions to black dragons of all things (especially to White Fatalis) is unsettling and I love it. He even prepared an f-ing Alatreon! He *PREPARED* an *Alatreon* !

[@SleepyPitou]

Me: "Awesome time for some lore!" Ruri: "Let's start with the creation of the Universe." Me: "The What?!"

[@nicholaswallace2575]

They started from the beginning... The very beginning XD

[@LodestarLogado]

BEEN WAITING ALL DAY - Shoutout to Banned Dino, love your content. Should be a great listen

[@heromedley]

isnt xeno jiva sort of like an indirect homage to the equal dragon concept since its made from the bio energy harvested from other dead dragons.

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

Same with ahtal ka, they are also a homage to the mechanical part of The equal dragon weapon.

[@Cap_The_Captain]

@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 Final form of Jiiva Confirmed: Ahtal Mecha Jiiva. Ahtal saw the Rise hunters wyvern riding, looked at Safi, looked at her mech parts, and put them together.

[@chuckstronggtx6863]

OMG now I just keep wishing that Herny will eventually be a guest on this podcast!

[@joshmay2944]

+1 Herny would be a perfect fit!

[@benturtl9076]

YEEEES

[@stephenjohn2131]

Herny, Ragegaming, Arekz, Maximilian Dood, Cons, Shremsy the CB guide master and speedrunner, TDS Chris, AmaDEUS and finally the local Italian LS king Peppo!! It will be awesome if they do podcast with these guys one by one lol. I mean we have time till rise comes out.

[@chuckstronggtx6863]

@@stephenjohn2131 step away endgame, that would be the greatest crossover.

[@stephenjohn2131]

@@chuckstronggtx6863 I strongly agree!! 👍

[@w0wdonger896]

gaijin has so much dad energy it's wholesome af

[@maxlilico5375]

honestly my favourite part of the podcast is listening to him talk about playing games with yuna. its so adorable

[@kingofflames738]

Regarding Bloodbath, there was the One Horned Demon King in Freedom Unite, which was a one horned Diablos with higher stats. Some think that was Bloodbath before becoming deviant.

[@giovanigiacomeli7460]

This Quest is one of my memorables hunts. I took weeks to solo it

[@gnihi1]

Sounded good. But sadly the one horned demon king had his right horn, bloodbath his left horn broken. The tail thingy would be valid, because we could sever as hunters and push him even harder on a killing spree.

[@clockwork204]

I think they were teasing Seregios' footprint in some magazine or site or something. And they jokingly called it "Steve".

[@Stratelier]

More or less. People asked about it but they weren't ready to reveal the localized name so the PR guy joked "let's just call him Steve".

[@propheticrain-maker1486]

I just managed to beat Fatalis solo, with Greatsword (MR88), in 28 minutes with this in the background. Thank you guys for keeping me calm!

[@rurikhan]

Gratz!

[@frankiecutlass7155]

Well done 👏

[@MrJayza89]

Nice one!

[@davidhaley7647]

The Wildspire Waste: Home of the Second-fiddle Rathian

[@Stratelier]

Suddenly the Yian Garuga hybrid theory makes a lot more sense how it might happen....

[@vivid8979]

Next podcast ideas invite some speedrunners and have a conversation about the whole community of speedrunner and the mindset/techniques about it..

[@inspectahgex1910]

I second this! It would be amazing

[@Aurinor]

42:11 Well.. We actually kinda have some explicitly fantasy races in MH universe.. I mean, Wyveryans are can be described as elves as they have long ears, live greatly longer than humans and often represented as beings wiser than humans. And then here are Troverians who are just your stereotypical workaholic dwarfs and that’s it. Or seafolk from Tri? They are literally sea-people/fishman/whatever.

[@masterhind2036]

So what you're telling me is Nergigante's divebomb is just him reproducing on us?

[@drxavier1870]

Nergigantes super attack is the equivalent of a salmon spraying its stuff on unfertilized eggs

[@Nightmare41919]

The marm in guildmarm is just a different way of saying ma’am, I was curious and looked it up

[@thelastweevil]

And "ma'am" is an abbreviation of "madam".

[@greenhillmario]

Monster Hunter Dos’ flagship was Kushala, the game Tigrex debuted in (I forget which one) he was flagship and freedom units was Nargacuga If you have a closer look, Akantor and Ukanlos do have those wing blades like Tigrex on the forelimbs. They’re just really tiny

[@OrganBlues]

The podcast I've been waiting for!!

[@tammywacha]

As soon as he said Gaijin was facepalming, I knew exactly that Ruri was about to mention the equal dragon weapon.

[@emmanuelrojas154]

I wish I had friends I could talk to like you guys do. Your podcasts make me happy. Keep up the awesome work all of you. Love from Nebraska.

[@frankiecutlass7155]

Same here man they are awesome.

[@michaelmendoza5934]

I'm so happy to "See" Banned Dino, love his lore tweets!

[@Solid_Brownies]

Oh boy nearly 4 hours of lore. This is gonna be fun

[@heromedley]

they never mentioned nakarkos. sad day indeed.

[@meikahidenori]

He is such a cool unique monster. Really surprised people don't like him more

[@VelvetAura]

The way they say "Tigrex" is a pun on "T-Rex" I think. I used to say Tigrex like tiger too, but then I realized the reason why the official pronunciation sounded that way and switched.

[@B9oyd]

The background of deviant monsters is that they have survived being hunted, they are ones that have adapted to hunter tactics and won, sort of like ones who survived their trial by fire and what doesnt kill you makes you stronger

[@Stratelier]

And not necessarily being hunted by humans (e.g. Soulseer).

[@MrJayza89]

I thought that was a generic explanation for them but not a definitive one. I always just assumed deviants where all unique for one reason or another. Some of the abilities some of the deviants have don't make sense when you think about how they earned them just by surviving a hunt.

[@lilturtleandshell3690]

I’ve always said that we need a monster hunter game with the extinct monsters

[@lilturtleandshell3690]

@David Gendron that’s also a good wat of doing it but we could even get new weapon types because of the “old civilization” and you can justify not having them in the past games by just saying they still haven’t found the weapons or the plans of the weapons. I dont know but I’m ready to know more about the extinct like only extinct species and new weapons that’s my hopes.

[@dustydd]

"she eats a really good apple pie and she's having a foodgasm" I'm wheezing. This is one if the best descriptions I've ever heard for the ahegao expression.

[@vincentpey3929]

So 4u weapon names in german, basically all names got translated into german from the english release and they just kept the gore magala weapon names as they where then but they also translated the french names of the shagaru equipment into german and they besically where all named after apocalipses or greater meanings. For example some of the gore magala hammers where "wutblick" = enraged stare probably meant to be a joke with the whole "seeing red" thing , "wuchtblick" = forcefull stare, though it is meant to allude to the momentum of the hammer... And for the shagaru hammer it had names like "Ragnarök" wich is the apocalypse in north myth, i think the final upgrade was named was "Erde" wich just means earth. I dont remember any of the particular names of the chaotic gore equipment but they kept that odd naming convention gaijin mentioned allthough it dosnt sound as odd in german.

[@hinobi]

Dino gives me the Chief Ecologist from World vibes! Enjoyed another great episode and I can imagine the amount of work to coordinate 3 speakers in a podcast in different time zone and editing the content to make it optimized for all the viewers/listeners!

[@AustinMmmmmm]

My theory is, the people are actually very small that’s why they can lift things that are as big as they are even though they weigh more than they do. And being able to fall from great heights without taking damage. And having massive insects the size of a bus be extremely mobile. And the extra big monsters being able to stand and not collapse from their own weight. Just my fun head cannon

[@SharqF1n]

After hearing about the original lore for MH having magic and this crazy anime stuff, I feel like instead of throwing away their ideas they just turned them into Dragon's Dogma

[@hansgretl1787]

Very interesting. As someone who started with Generations Ultimate, my knowledge for MH lore never went further than "punch dragons in the face". Kinda sad about the lack of Nakarkos in this. That's a really intriguing one to me.

[@juantsu2000]

The game hasnt come out and the Rise twins are already my favorite quest givers in the series. They're both waifu material and no one can change my mind

[@GeostelarDX]

Capcom updated their rules and they're banning capcom-related emotes, specially lewd-related stuff, that might have been the reason your Handler emote got hit.

[@chrisdrake512]

*takes notes*

[@JoyTuub]

I'm listening to these wildly out of order slowly as some of my background noise when I clean or workout. Thank you for the interesting content Ruri and friends.

[@dianealastair3363]

The best fan theory in my opinion as to the origin of the hunters is that Monster Hunter is in the far future with Wyverians being how humans are in the future, long lived and super wise. They were exploring the stars when they found a really harsh and inhospitable planet and the hunters were created as genetically engineered super soldiers who could wield crazy weapons and tank humongous hits then suddenly contact with the rest of civilization was lost and technology devolved and reformed into what it is now

[@khalil8043]

Wait,they don't know that dread king/dread queen or any other deviant were actually just normal monsters that survived hunts and devoloped new behaviors and had their og abilities enhanced?

[@chrisdrake512]

That's a generic definition of Deviants but seems accurate for a few of them like Bloodbath, Soulseer or Deadeye.

[@chito2701]

i think Monster hunter is more into science fiction than magic fantasy and that's what makes the lore more interesting and unique.

[@ino_mation]

Haha Yes! My friend and I have *always* called him Sergio, I'd heard of Steve later on after we played through 4U, and I was like, why the hell would they pick the name Steve, it's Sergio!

[@rm13evm]

Thank you so much for keeping me entertained for nearly 4hrs of my work day. Do more of these!!!!

[@HitsuruKun]

Então Rurikhan fala português fluentemente. Fico feliz em saber. Por que não solta algumas frases nesta língua tão enigmática em seus vídeos??? O podcast que mais gosto de acompanhar.

[@yiangaruga4928]

1:23:10 Oh my goodness you mad man actually did talk about this!! I'm pleased and so glad that BannedDino shows his doubt cause the theory is almost certainly just a fun fan theory that doesn't actually make sense.

[@seseiSeki]

12:19 Kinda sounds like Gaijinhunter accidentally replying "hai", realizing that and quickly turning it into a "yes". "Haiyes"

[@blackbird5557]

i love how Gaijin is using every opprtunity to gush about tall sexy vampires

[@General_C]

...excuse me?

[@tomsimpson357]

The thing about gammoth joining the popo is kinda true to life, as large herds rely on this ‘too many targets’ technique in nature, and we’ve seen different species coexist like this for their own benefit

[@ashybt]

Just throwing it out there. Mh stories 2 crossover could be a quest where you hunt just riding a monstie for the entire hunt? Also wirebug type movement for underwater combat would fix the manouverability issues and and impoved strafing movement would make it worth bringing back. Also palamute bring a good boy swimming mount??? Ideas anyone??

[@jovelove2115]

Ruri, you sweet summer child. Apex monsters are an initiation.

[@Solibrae]

Maybe brave Yian Kut-Kus got together with those rejected Rathians to make Yian Garugas? ; ) That idea for a funny Chameleos animation sounds like just the sort of thing NCH Productions would make. Them eating your Wirebugs would probably be easier to deal with than stealing your items, for me! I'd really like to know more about the ancient civilisation that lived on the Moga Island, especially the sunken city in the Underwater Ruin area. If I ever play MHWorld I'm sure I'll come back and listen to your thoughts on the lore of that game again.

[@cytosine6870]

Chameleos eating your wirebugs has to be the most evil idea I've heard for this game so far.

[@LordShonji]

I do remember seeing something about Yain kut-ku being able to breed all year round and I guess must have came cross a Rathian in heat and confused it for a small Rathalos and suprise we got Edge Lord Chicken

[@montymont5943]

I would love it if we were given a prequel game and let us see the origins of the guild. And maybe The Equal Dragon Weapon.

[@avengingangel917]

Maximilian dood would be a cool guest but probably really hard to get. World was the first monster he really got into and now he's one of the folks getting the word out. Would be cool if you got together.

[@nhall129]

I think Gaijin is actually on point with each flagship representing a different style, he just has the monsters mixed Gammoth is definitely Guild style Astalos is aerial... cuz he flies (guys cmon) Glavenus the offensive powerhouse so striker only seems fitting And Mizutsune is adept style because of how it slips and slides around the battlefield The armor sets actually all fit the styles too

[@lukefinley6660]

The Kulve Taroth original assignment DOES actually make sense, in congruency with the Guilds reputation. We do go there to study her horns but dont forget we are not able, or allowed to, kill her in the Seige. We break off her horns and she escapes and grows new ones, eventually. Its only the master rank EVENT quest that we get to actually kill her, which event quests never usually follow standard story or lore.

[@justsomejojo]

20 minutes into the podcast, and I'm like "the guild ladies have NAMES?!" You bet I immediately went to the wiki and looked up the Moga Sweetheart's name, because she was my first receptionist and is still my favorite. Gotta eat those shrooms, she said. So they won't hunt her down. Also, I kinda am interested in wether or not Rise will have some lore on the rule of four. Because my first thought when I did a four player hunt was, "wait a minute, that's more than four!" Palicoes always factored into the rule, so that was kinda weird in the demo.

[@Galebreth]

Also more of this lore. I love lore. I eat those for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

[@arjunaadjinna]

Just out of curiosity, do you mind sharing a personal story? I noticed both Rurikhan and Gaijin both have american accents but neither of you live in the states. I thought you might have been ex pats, but hearing how Gaijin mentioned Ruri wouldn't know anything about the benjamin restaurant implies that Ruri has been in Portugal or at least out of the states for his entire life. (tbh i don't even know the restaurant and i've lived here 31 years lol). Likewise, Gaijin talks about being in Japan and it seems like he's been there his whole life, but he knew the difference between 7/11 in USA vs 7/11 in Japan. How did y'all get american accents?

[@emanessa8795]

Man listening to these while working out is just the best!

[@Howl_3DN]

These jokers talked for 3 hours?! Dang, that’s how you know you’re dealing with fans

[@seethingwalnut2628]

The fuck

[@Nomadic_Gaming]

they should of brought back nekarkos in rotten vale totally missed out on some cool stuff w that also shara fits the sapphire star story of five dragons that shaped everything also atl kha ruri missed the chance to ask if the thing she dug up was old frame work of an equal dragon wep cuz it looks like one

[@oak3684]

That was a super long and really enjoyable talk! I can’t get enough of Monster Hunter lore and stuff, and I only hope that Rise will give us even more things to speculate and theorise over for years to come!😆 By the way, you guys left out the poor Nakarkos...🦑

[@roguegen5536]

The Scarlet Robed Man was alluded to in a high rank event quest in World. The quest unlocked Donte's armor so it was tied into that maybe.

[@roguegen5536]

Stylish Red Fiver: "Legends say in a far off land, a demon hunter in a red coat offed demons with sickeningly sweet style. How about we make a legend out of you?"

[@jovelove2115]

You can literally see dalamadur's face in the rotten vale

[@Stratelier]

Especially if you pull up the map immediately upon that first expedition (before you start filling in the map with zones and icons).

[@Vulcanfaux]

My friends and I called it monado boy astalos. Because the big blue beam looks like shulks monado buster.

[@Nightmare41919]

Eyooo another podcast, with a special guest as well! Hype! Edit: over 3 and a half hours, this is gonna be a good one

[@dracojester2971]

I like how there are legends and things of black dragons in the games that the game has you fight, but speculation and legends of the ancient civilizations/EDW transcend the game's world into real life and having nothing to go on aside from attempting to pick the devs brains or headcannoning makes it even more mysterious.

[@pseudopsychonym]

Gaijin is one of the royal Thalian scriveners. Knows more about the lore than he wants to admit. And Fights against the last remainig verbaly history about EDW.

[@Andy500265]

Talking about Ahtal-Ka - We need it to come back and have a turf war with Zorah

[@Corwin19]

Great podcast guys! Really enjoyed the discussions On the topic of xeno’jiiva and safi’jiiva, from my understanding the safi’jiiva we encountered in iceborne was not the same creature as the xeno’jiiva we hunted in base world. Safi from iceborne had hatched and fed on the energy in the guiding lands, whilst the xeno’jiiva we encountered was in the elders recess

[@grenm9]

This is was great episode but took me a few days to finish lol anyway, love all you guys thanks for the episode

[@KnightsDisillusion]

Finally Lore Talk.

[@nhall129]

Honestly Namielle is probs my favorite elder, just from concept to world design I love how it feels like it belonged there all along despite only appearing in Iceborne

[@khalil8043]

Hey Gaijin, you forgot the part where Kokoto's chief soloed a lao Shan lung😂

[@xHideousFoxx]

It'd be fun if in master rank you got to go catch poachers and use yer silk bugs to wrap them up like spider man haha

[@BearUmbra]

Lore? For 4 hours? Yes. I'm engaged.

[@Monsoonasaurus]

According to the dictionary Marm is a variant spelling of Ma'am, though it also categorizes it as "North American Dated". Learned something new today.

[@ajakks6551]

I wonder what everyone's thoughts are on the Monster Hunter World Board Game. Also Rondine in Rise is Waifu for me.

[@johannesnagengast7643]

There’s a board game?

[@ajakks6551]

@@johannesnagengast7643 Yeah, there this team called SteamForged and they are setting up a Kickstarter for a Monster Hunter Board game. Here is the link for the news on it. www.gamesradar.com/monster-hunter-world-the-board-game-revealed/

[@johannesnagengast7643]

After seeing this exactly comment I immediately searched in the web. Can’t wait for the release. But painting the monsters Jesus, that’ll be a lot of work. 😁 I also think I’ll go for the all in pledge. But that requires saving some money after I pre ordered the special Rise switch for my wife. 🤣

[@ListlessWither]

Take a shot when BannedDino says Interesting or a synonym there of and you'll probably be dead within the duration of the podcast.

[@jamescheek7507]

The "creation" story was in World. Tale of the five. Five "first " dragons that created specific parts of the world.

[@drxavier1870]

Someone needs to make one of those Iceberg Charts for Monster Hunter with all these in it

[@MFTaekwon]

Long day in office? No problem, Third Fleet Podcast has you covered :) THX guys!

[@wilddreams]

only listening to it now that was probably the best episode ever

[@demonvipify]

Quest descriptions give alot of of information or are fun

[@arcbuilds]

We all be imprisoned by the guild now for mizu’s extinction

[@tammywacha]

The name "Scarlet Road Man" makes it sound like the Scarlet Mystery Man is about to show up to Schrade in a puffer jacket and smack Fatalis' bunda.

[@maxlilico5375]

i do agree that the clutch was a bit forced into your gameplay but i still think it felt so damn cool to do stuff like thrust your sword into a monster's face and leap away as it explodes n stuff like that

[@AndrewGrofff]

Once heyjey gets further on his monster hunter journey it'd be awesome to have him on to talk about it!

[@kaninhunter50]

I really love this podcasts. 1 podcast a week, makes one less weak

[@Kinzokunoiggy]

The episode i was waiting for!! amzing as always

[@scottgaskell2079]

Marm is just an alternate spelling of ma'am (madame). A school marm is a headmistress so I imagine guild marm is similar

[@prawn1717]

YO Banned is on this podcast now?? Fuck yeah, they don't get the recognition they deserve

[@CobaltSnek]

1:02:33 Actually BannedDino is incorrect on Treshi's first appearance. It was not Freedom 2 it was Freedom 1. I know I played it.

[@nuclearscarab]

What you people don't realize is that the Equal Dragon Weapon is actually just Team Darkside.

[@LugaruEvolutions]

Just to maybe amuse someone: Popo is also a german word for "butt". So yeah Tigrex just loves going down on these Popos

[@mattxstarx]

will probably be playing mhGU before rise comes out because i'm too hype to play another series atm. my favorite moment i have when the game came out was solo'ing EX Boltreaver with gunlance :D. so fun!

[@arjunaadjinna]

Dino finally presented what I've been looking for over the past 3 years -- MH "Lore". I love a good story and soooo wish MHGU (the only mh I've played) had any type of story. Here's to hoping MHR will contain some story/cutscenes like MHW!!

[@denoy121]

Because of this podcast I've been more productive.

[@kaninhunter50]

I'm oldskool. I don't immediately go to the MHGUDN app. I watch YT vids for keyquests and tips! But, I also play a lot offline. So I use the app sometimes

[@verlonnatenbrink7631]

I thought deviants were monsters that survived being hunted many times and thus evolved to better protect themselves from hunters? That's kinda why they get harder the higher level you go, it's like the deviant is surviving and learning and growing stronger.

[@The_Babe]

Rurikhan playing as a dwarven Wyverian and gajin hunter as a felyne in Monster Hunter together would be utter perfection