This 2024 Toyota Prius Prime SE Plays the EV Game for THOUSANDS Less Than You Expect!

[@Mechazawa787]

I have had this exact car for about five months now and it's outstanding. Without charging I average 55 mpg, and that's highway heavy, I usually get 48 miles from a full charge. It won't hold a 4x8, but I have had 3x5 sheets of hardy backer in it, and 8 foot lengths of construction lumber (front passenger seat folds flat), hatch closed, no problem. It's fun to drive when you want to, highway speed passing is especially impressive, and when you don't the driver assistance package is really good. I got it under MSRP and benefited from a state tax incentive in addition--that took some aggressive negotiation with my local dealer, but it happened for me anyway. The best use case for a PHEV is is you have high electric rates but limited access to free charging, with this car I can take advantage of the free charging when available and drive really cheaply on gasoline when it's not. I drive a lot, with my previous car, a Civic, transportation fuel was a huge expense for me, now it's negligible.

[@JogBird]

i mean for most ppl its easier to just get the 4x8 or lumber delivered when you need it. they will even cut it down for you. either that to buy a $80k pick up truck that may not even carry the 4x8

[@TheSateef]

is there space in it for car camping? 2 people sleeping in the back, i'm 6'. thx

[@Mechazawa787]

@@TheSateef Without measuring, probably. I think you have about 5 foot 6 with the front seats in a normal position, I suspect if you move them all the way forward and push the backs forward you will fit, but with an overhang past the shelf formed by the folded back seats. You can also move the front seats all the way forward and with the headrests out lower and recline them all the way and get about 8 foot three of flat-ish surface at least on the passenger side. Just keep in mind it's only about three foot two at the narrowest.

[@Mechazawa787]

@@JogBird That $80 delivery fee is hard to swallow if you only need a couple of sheets, sometimes you need it at full size or nearly. Anyway a roof rack works in that case, although I haven't set one up for the Prius yet. The 8 foot long boards in the car is a nice trick my Civic hatch couldn't do, just trying to paint a picture of the car's utility and it's limitations.

[@TomLawlor-iq6gm]

@@TheSateef I'm 5'11" and I could sleep in the back of our 24 Prime (if the cost of it ever makes us homeless). But, I don't know where all your gear would be stowed.

[@TomLawlor-iq6gm]

I have never before encountered a car that arrives with plastic hub caps, yet, has a nice set of alloy wheels underneath. I was amazed with what I found after taking off one cover. Great car, 4,061Km and used just one tank of fuel so far. Much cheaper to charge here than to buy gas ($6.50 a gallon here).

[@aaronkoch3273]

Base model is tempting, my gen2 Volt has about 250k on the clock now and I love that car, this might almost be able to replace it..

[@TheDGeneration]

Less expensive means there’s more room for dealer markups…

[@iissac22]

Exactly. Might have cheaper msrp, but mark ups make them more.

[@JD-yx7be]

If there is not enough demand that means dealer discounts.

[@USAWILL]

Same thing happened with the mavericks. 19k starting plus 5-15k markups makes it pointless

[@toyotaprius79]

​@@USAWILL Capitalism wins...

[@daves1646]

Markups only succeed when buyers agree to them. So, …. Just don’t do it and TRAIN the STEALERships. Only buy from a DEALERship that cares to have customers after the sale.

[@OldThomMerton]

Hybrids and PHEVs are the best use of the resources and are useful by a lot more people in this country. EVs are the future, and they can be fun and aggravating, but Hybrids and PHEVs are a more direct step from ICE vehicles, don't require extended stops for 'energy' and will improve MPG and save money in the long run. The new Prius is certainly an visual improvement over the last one. Great video as always, Nathan.

[@toyotaprius79]

If only Toyota learned that lesson over 10 years ago when they had the chance! Having a compromised cargo space, more aerodynamic drag and a hazardous A pillar for the sake of looks are not actual improvements. It makes for less value for money in a daily vehicle.

[@planesandbikes7353]

PHEV yes, Hybrid no. But for a majority of drivers BEV is fine. Hybrid hardly saves much in comparison to BEV/PHEV if you can charge at home.

[@devonconnor3563]

PHEV, Maybe.....IF they actually plug the dang thing in.. Which most people who buy these won't

[@anydaynow01]

@@devonconnor3563 Why would they pay more for fuel and the inconvenience of having to go to the gas station when they can have a "full tank" every morning? Every driver I know with a personally owned PHEV plugs in like it's a religion, myself included, there's quite a few coworkers, friends and family who have gone this route, we all plug in. The people who almost never plug in are the ones driving fleet vehicles with company fuel cards. Our company got rid of all our PHEVs after their leases were up for this reason and are just leasing regular cheaper HEVs now since that's how most everyone was using them, I can count on one hand how many times I saw one plugged in at work. If someone was given a company PHEV it could have been solved by just taking away their fuel card, "...but that would be too inconvenient." was the company answer.

[@anydaynow01]

Yep, it just makes the most sense for legacy auto to not hoard batteries in a few BEVs when more people can daily drive emissions free with PHEVs, or low emissions with HEVs, until they get more battery plants running, then they can hoard away. Like GM could have literally built ten Voltec CUVs for every one Hummer or Silverado EV, and judging by how fast the Volts are selling on the used market at a premium (like my '17 Volt is the first used car where the price has actually increased substantially since I bought it right before the pandemic) and how Toyota Primes are like hen's teeth they would have no problem selling them for a profit in this market. For pure electric companies like Rivian and Tesla there's zero sense in them making PHEVs. Plus, folks who can't charge daily or have marathon commutes should have a zero emission option. If someone can charge daily there's zero reason they should be hoarding hundreds of km worth of batteries they will not use in daily driving.

[@madlucio70]

I am on an 18 month waiting list for a Prius Prime in Montreal. They are ridiculously hard to find.

[@JD-yx7be]

Their new battery plant in South Carolina is opening sometime in 2025 so it will be awhile for them to produce enough to meet demand, on a positive the new battery should qualify for the tax credit

[@danielberning1240]

Cancel the order, go buy a very nice Chevy Malibu for way less and use the money saved for the little more fuel you will use.

[@JD-yx7be]

@@danielberning1240 might as well wait for the next gen bolt that is being made at the Malibu plant

[@MannyKings5]

Why not go for the rav4 prime

[@JD-yx7be]

@@MannyKings5 they are $9k more and just as hard to find

[@daves1646]

Small screen? Seems fine to me. If it shows a route, lets me tune the radio, access vehicle info? Just the right size!

[@WW-wf8tu]

Now we know how Nathan was breaking his ankle! It was testing out back seat leg room. 🤣 L&I claims for on job injuries.

[@waychillbro]

Good luck getting your hands on one. Depending on the dealership they might be allocated one per year and I was told mine had a waitlist of 11 people. I've been waiting months for my normal Limited to come in and just when I thought I might get it they issued a stop sale because a door sensor might get water in it and might let a rear door open while you're driving. That's only if the rear door is unlocked to begin with, which don't pretty much all modern cars lock the doors automatically? That was months ago and no word yet on a fix or when I can have my car. At this point I might just cancel and wait for the Civic Hybrid hatchback.

[@mt2nv1]

Yep, they sell less than 200,000 per year

[@JD-yx7be]

Supply won't get much better until their new battery plant is complete

[@anydaynow01]

Yep Toyota is leveraging their limited battery supply to their HEVs, a friend of mine just gave up on waiting for his Prime and picked up a gently used gen 2 Volt Premium.

[@joemcdonough7509]

Try this option then. Put your name on the list. Finance a Tesla Model 3 base for which you can get now for 1% rate. Then trade it in next year for your Prius. See which car you liked better.

[@danielberning1240]

@@anydaynow01 Your friend was smart. I can't believe so many people would pay so much and wait so long for one of these Prius'. There's a lot of really good vehciles for less money that you can purchase on the spot. Want a good sedan with great room and good efficiency? Go buy a brand new Chevrolet Malibu for so much less than the Prius Prime that you could pay for all the extra fuel for probably 10 years. And you would have a nice looking car.

[@nevco8774]

We own a Toyota Prius 2005. One can seat decently in the front seats, and the rear ones. There's plenty of leg room in the rear. The driver easily can plop his rear end on the seat coming from outside, no need to bend the neck while pulling the head inside. Getting in and out in the front is easy like in and out a minivan - most people do not touch the A pillar while getting the head in and out. I wanted a PHEV. Our old timer started requiring expensive repairs due to failing old modules. Yet, the modern Prius entirely kills the space inside, mind you, with the same overall car length. It's a total no go for our family due to its "sleekness".

[@JD-yx7be]

Rav4 prime

[@robsquared2]

Having the 2020 Prius Prime XLE is what pushed me into getting a full EV. I could go 6 months before I used even a quarter of a tank and charging at home is so convenient.

[@jd-py5nm]

wife and I loved the prime we owned a 2017 and a 2021 only got rid of them because we had a couple kiddos show up and just couldn't afford having so much in payments when we ended up working from home as well we plan to include this new model in any future car shopping we may do. We used EV mode almost entirely except when on road trips

[@drnick40]

Thanks Nathan. This has to be the perfect practical car for people with small body frame.

[@MannyKings5]

I had a 2018 Honda clarity which was a main competitor to this. I would get 48 miles electric making my commute all EV miles. 383 range with a six gallon tank. I loved that car. Sold it because of going work from home due to Covid. Would have loved to see Honda make a CRV version of it even at 40 miles. Average American commute is 19 miles round trip

[@DrakeRichter]

2nd gen chevy volt vibes from the side view

[@briankelley616]

Never thought I'd watch a Toyota Prius video and think damn, this thing makes sense. Well live and learn I guess. Well done Nathan, as always. 🚗

[@mcsike7264]

Makes sense if you go 600+ miles a lot if not your just wasting money on gas still and now with two power trains that means dubbed the maintenance

[@menguardingtheirownwallets6791]

In Ontario, Canada, there is a 3-year waiting list for people who want to buy a Prius Prime of any grade.

[@JD-yx7be]

Toyota's new battery plant in North Carolina is opening next year and will greatly increase supple of all their plug-in models. That waiting list will be closer to 12-18 months from today

[@SkyRL25]

@@JD-yx7be not the Prius because its made in Japan .....

[@chuckblammo6171]

Check your facts, Nathan. The previous version of the Prime had a lower Cd than this version. Many automotive journalists think that because the new one looks sleeker and is lower, it's more slippery. Not. The old one's Cd is 0.25. The new one's is 0.27. The old one's MPGe is 133. The new one 's is 114. The old version had less range, but was more efficient.

[@JD-yx7be]

The epa also changed the testing standard since then so not a apples to apples comparison

[@stevelouie5928]

Some one on yt put on high performance tires on it and said the handling was as good as a GTi.

[@cwescapexlt4x4]

Certainly won't see a bunch as Ubers, surprising Toyota shrunk the space so much

[@Bonanzaking]

It’s actually not that bad. Majority of riders comment that it’s more comfy and spacious than the older ones even though I tell them on paper it’s smaller.

[@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444]

The Uber/Lyfts will be Camry hybrids instead, or a Camry hybrid hatchback which would be awesome...

[@andreybrowsky6427]

​@@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444what about rav 4

[@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444]

@@andreybrowsky6427 That too

[@dolarizacionenaccion790]

Up to a certain point, its competitor is in its own family because for the price I would rather take a new 2025 toyota camry hybrid

[@nikidelvalle]

The idea that the way a car looks can affect your dating potential is so outdated. Everyone under the age of 30 knows that just having a decent car at all proves a level of financial security that in the current day and age is difficult to obtain.

[@TomLawlor-iq6gm]

Take the gear selector out of Engine BRAKE Mode, and your milage goes WAY up. B is for slowing down, not driving. Jeez.

[@mmancino1982]

56? The Camry hybrid gets about 51. Fine if you're trying to go cheaper, so it's a better value proposition, but if the savings isn't the consideration why this over a Camry?

[@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444]

Now look up the MPG of a Smart Car and you'll see why they failed as a company.

[@MarioLuigi-vb3rp]

I’m a big guy I’m around 6’1 with boots I measure 6ft on the dot last dr visit bare foot. I’m very wide and muscular build does it feel comfortable for you? I always have to put my seats all the way to the back when I sit in a sedan.

[@NegativeNanase]

I've been eyeing this car for a while now, and as a fellow big guy myself, I am SO thankful for your review of the passenger and driver headspace and leg space. Many, many youtubers I have watched sold me on this car, but neglected to mention the restricted headspace and leg space for the big guys. I'll pass on this car. I love your review!

[@DS-mz7dy]

GM was so much further ahead with the Volt and then they killed it....

[@JD-yx7be]

it was also $10k plus more expensive

[@anydaynow01]

Yeah, by now if they spread out the Voltec system through their entire line the tech would have paid for itself and it would have been pure profit like Toyota is doing with putting their hybrid system in everything. They also should have put the system in a CUV or SUV with a bit larger battery, nobody wanted/wants domestic sedans. The advertising and explanation of the Voltec system was also lackluster at best. Also the advances they could have made and the lower battery costs these days and it would have been very competitive. The general public just wasn't ready for that car.

[@anydaynow01]

@@JD-yx7be Yep at almost $50k, it was asking a bit much for what was essentially a Chevy Cruise, even if someone would almost never have to buy fuel unless they were on a road trip since it had a good sized battery. If they were to put that same drivetrain in a Chevy/GMC/Buick/Cadillac CUV it would have done a lot better. Like people think trying to buy a Prius Prime is hard, the RAV4 Prime is pretty much a mythical beast at this point!

[@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444]

The communists did that.

[@JD-yx7be]

@@anydaynow01 Toyota's new battery plant in north carolina is opening sometime next year so supply will be scarce until then. The good news is the new battery pack will likely be cheaper or have a little extra capacity for the same price

[@Scottwilliamson-bi3vi]

When your EV car is stranded somewhere you’ll get rescued by somebody with an ICE. To the Comment below this is definitely an EV vehicle. It just happens to be a plug-in electric vehicle and it’s a hybrid. Best of both worlds. Nothing wrong with it.

[@JP-sw5ho]

Meanwhile the Tesla model y has a 6 to 8 week lead time right now because of high demand

[@carl8790]

If you're one of those buyers that's planning to daily these Prime Prius on EV only, you still have to run the engine occasionally. So keep that in mind.

[@TomLawlor-iq6gm]

Hummm, We have had our 2024 Prime now for 5 months. It's been driven over 7,200Km (4,400 miles or so). To date, we have burned less than two tanks of gas (less than 20 gallons). Almost all of the gas was used when the ambient temperature was below 5c and we had to use heat in the cabin. Now, in summer, we have gotten 91Km on a charge on the best day. But, this morning, the computer informed us the estimated EV range was 98Km. Next time we put gas in the tank, might be at Christmas................

[@carl8790]

@@TomLawlor-iq6gm hmmm... seems like my comment has been removed. Anyway, your Prime is smart enough to turn on the engine and run it a bit, but make it a practice to run the engine at least once a month, if you're using the car as a daily EV. Also, try not to keep petrol in the tank for that long. If you want more tips, I highly recommend a toyota mechanic here on this platform. He's an arab american that has been fixing these vehicles for a long time. Cheers.

[@TomLawlor-iq6gm]

@@carl8790 Hello Carl, The Prime usually will start and run for three or four minutes if one of us engages The B Mode. But that is very temperature and speed dependant. Otherwise, we have to engage the "Charge Mode" to encourage the 2L to start. And, yes, I'm also a fan of "The Car Care Nut". Wouldn't it be great if all of us could roll up to his garage door for a chat.

[@DaniTheNachoPirate]

I mentioned this in a TFL review of the Infiniti QX, in the 20's car design has really been truly incredible up to this point. So many gorgeous, beautiful, straight up sexy auto designs lately. Never thought I'd say this about a Prius, but this is a rather sexy car. In the 80's through to the 2010's car design was becoming more and more terrible every year, with the 10's being almost completely horrible. Since 2020 though there have been some real breathtaking vehicles, this is one of those in my opinion. Keep in mind I remember the debut of the second generation Prius, which was almost uncomfortable to look at in comparison to this new one.

Good old/new sedan!!! Bet more and more people start buying this car segment again.

[@christianhansen3292]

you getting into the backseat was hilarious!

[@newchangeunlisted_viewer5594]

Cant wait to buy one in a couple years

[@LB-pv7sd]

My Hyundai ionic 2019 SEL hybrid gets 58 miles to the gallon no problem. My personal best was 6 8 mp gallon. You don't have to buy a brand new Prius to get such great fuel mileage. You could always buy a used Hyundai Ionic and be sipping just as little fuel as the Prius. No righteousness required here.

[@paulguzyk2978]

Hyundai hybrids appear good value but those cars are only good for 100k to 150k miles. I've seen dozens of Toyota Hybrids with over 300k on them so it depends on your usage plans. i.e. don't buy a Hyundai if you drive for Uber. Resale value on Hyundais also way less percentage wise than Toyota's.

[@babygamer405]

Good luck finding one. I live in a 3 million population city and it's like chasing a ghost and unicorns.

[@jml9550]

Plenty here available in California.

[@silvertube52]

You're repeating the common misunderstanding/assumption that the new design is more aerodynamic. It is less aerodynamic than earlier versions. They sacrificed both interior space and aerodynamics for better looks. The higher roofline that peaked just behind the driver is more aerodynamic, but gave it the odd shape that people find unattractive.

[@mt2nv1]

Tesla Model 3 is now cheaper to own and operate. It’s more than twice as efficient and much faster. Also has more storage space.

[@MrSGL21]

and has terrible build quality and no resale value.

[@Bonanzaking]

Will it last 20,30,40, 50 years though? Probably not.

[@mt2nv1]

@@MrSGL21 you need to go drive the 2024 model. It’s getting fantastic reviews. It’s also not slow, and can fit adults in the back seat unlike the Prius. Resale will rebound in 18 months. Watch.

[@mt2nv1]

@@Bonanzaking 20 yes. Easy. Why would you keep a non-classic car longer?

[@Bonanzaking]

@@mt2nv1 because in order to become a classic someone has to keep holding past shitbox phase. I have a stable of vintage cars. My oldest is 53. My old ranger I bought 9 years ago is now a classic and the market reflects its. Any car can be a classic, it’s about age not car type. It’s not just sports cars. Trucks, SUV’s, even econo cars. Tend to appreciate at the 25 year mark.

[@brianhurley8617]

Nice review.

[@mumwifeteacher]

It’s no different from a Corolla for passenger space and ride height. I think just like what happen during the pandemic when people had to switch from pajamas to business casual things did not fit the same as before.

[@htiek30120]

In my experience, a hybrid, regular or phev, is cheaper than a BEV to own unless the BEV costs less than $25K. It seems like it's more of an affordability issue than popularity. Those who want a BEV will buy one. Those who want to save money will most likely buy something else.

[@TomLawlor-iq6gm]

Our Prime was over $20,000 less than a Tesla and we didn't need to buy/install a Level 2 charger ($1,000 to $3,000). In three months we spent $45.00 on gas with 3,700+Km driven. And, that gas was for our first road trip.

[@justinfowler2857]

Toyota: Our 2024 plug in can go 44 miles on electric. Chevy: uh yeah the 2016 Volt got 53 miles of electric range.

[@JD-yx7be]

the chevy was way more expensive especially adjusted for inflation

[@TomLawlor-iq6gm]

I drove our 2024 Prime 91Km (56.87 m), the other day (above the posted limit all the way). And, there was 6% charge still left in "the tank". The car would have reached 100Km (62.5 m), had I kept driving. This morning, after the overnight charge, the trip computer estimated a 98Km EV range. Have had the car for 5 months now and, after over 4,500 miles, we still have some of its second fill-up flopping around the tank as we race around. And, race around we can..............60 in under 6.5. This thing is way better than our first 2 Pius's.

[@USAWILL]

Dont leave Colorado Nathan 😢

[@spcneary]

PHEVs have such a narrow use case. I had the king of PHEVs, a volt. I liked it when I didn’t have an EV but I found that it was a perfect short range EV dragging around a mediocre ICE. If 30-40 miles of range is a good number for you an EV would be even better.

[@JamaicanMeCrazy]

Yeah try the opposite of that.

[@mcsike7264]

​@@JamaicanMeCrazy if you have to go 200+ miles every day a ev is not for you well the short range ones aren't

[@danielberning1240]

@@mcsike7264 I'm on my second Chevy Bolt EV and in mild weather I will have 290 to 320 miles of actual range. It's no different, under the exact same driving conditions, as my 2021 Chevy Malibu got for range and I was getting fantastic MPG with that (for a standard ICE car).

[@mcsike7264]

@@danielberning1240 nice bolt is a good car they just gave it a shit charging if it had at least 150kw fast charging then ya ultimate cheap ev and with that charging speed you can road trip it

[@spcneary]

@@mcsike7264 you are describing the equinox EV, if GM gave us what they originally promised that is.

[@Van_Liberty]

The car ingress/egress is horrible for any person above 160lbs and 5'8". It looks like it has been in a roof crushing rollover.

[@harmandash7147]

1.5 year wait time to get prius at dealers across British Columbia canada

[@chadhaire1711]

If you live in a country with that Marxist prime minister TRU_DOOO you have bigger problems kid

[@SamQuintani]

It’s beautiful ❤🎉

[@pcihector]

Ike Gauntlet that Prius Prime. Compare with the regular Prius or other plug in hybrids.

[@stevekniess3665]

Your great N8. Thank you for the video this is my relax and watch TFL before work

[@chidorirasenganz]

35k you might as well get the base model 3 for 38k or the base model Y for 35k after the tax credit. Both of those are better in every way 😅

[@chidorirasenganz]

@@chadhaire1711 I never said the Prius qualifies for the tax credit

[@chadhaire1711]

@@chidorirasenganz Model 3 and Y are cheap garbage over rated golf carts. good luck taking a 1,000 mile trip in the winter.

[@chidorirasenganz]

@@chadhaire1711 ICE cars are overated glorified steam engines. Relics of the past. If it wasn’t for early EVs we’d still be hand cranking them. You sound like someone who’s never seen a Tesla let alone driven one. People road trip Tesla’s all the time even if it’s winter so you might want to do some basic research before spouting off smh

[@brandononbrand]

Shame no heated seats available on the SE... I want the cloth seats but heated! ... and give me digital rear view and 360 camera and I'm good. No need for much else... Sadly, Toyota doesn't sell that version... and they force 19" wheels on you to get heated seats (deleting cloth), etc. on the higher trims.

[@TomLawlor-iq6gm]

Our 2024 Prime SE has heated seats and steering wheel. The more practical 17" tires and, of course, cloth. We are in Canada, maybe that makes a difference.

[@brandononbrand]

@@TomLawlor-iq6gm yeah, Canada gets the good trim this time... In US, no heated seats and apparently not even auto headlights on SE!

[@TomLawlor-iq6gm]

@@brandononbrand I know Toyota has different equipment/features on the same trim level for different countries. But why differentiate when it comes to The US and Canada. We each cross one another's borders, sometimes on a daily basis, and we between us, do something on the order of billions a day in trade. US cars often wind-up in Canada and vis-versa. Does your SE have the dash LED strip, ours does not. Does your hatch lid have the full width LED tail light ? Ours doesn't. We get Auto headlamps. In your country, the turn indicator is the LED headlight, here, our Prime has separate (lower), mounted turn signals. Why. Many of these cars will over time wind-up across the border, makes sense to us that they be identical. Any way, we are well pleased with our Prime (third Prius, first Prime). 80+Km on a charge and on our first road trip, in hybrid mode got 61.2Mpg. Hope you enjoy your Prius.

[@rafaelcruz2109]

Do PHEV Pius has a 120v outlet? like the Rav4?

[@TomLawlor-iq6gm]

The Prime has two 120v outlets. And, unlike most auto outlets, they are both 1,500w.

[@rafaelcruz2109]

@@TomLawlor-iq6gm Great! Last question; that is on both trims, or the most expensive one?

[@TomLawlor-iq6gm]

@@rafaelcruz2109 Hey Rafael, Our SE is the base trim and has two outlets, so, I feel confident that's also the case with the two higher trim levels. I had a $65,000 Ram work truck. It had one outlet but it was rated at just 250w. The Prime has two at 1,500w. I doubt you can use both at the same time (with Max. draw), however, 1,500w's is far better than 250w. You can run quite a lot of "tools" with 1,500w. We are enjoying our purchase, love this car despite the drawbacks in some regards.

[@Igoriann]

It’s not an EV. It’s phev.

[@dayoadeosun1520]

A prius phev works well for me than any EV, including Tesla. Best of both world 😊

[@Igoriann]

@@dayoadeosun1520 works for some. Didn’t work for me. I got annoyed really fast with humming sounds every time I hit the gas hard or run out of battery. I’d be 1 min from home and try to make it without engine turning on and bam it turns on. If I manage to drive it in EV without running out of battery, then engine isn’t working enough and 12V battery gets drained. For me I’d pick between hybrid or pure EV. PHEV is way too complicated. I liked mine while I had it but those things bugged me. NOTHING bugs me about pure EV

[@GKMess42]

1:40 I like the wheels, hate the new version of the car. I found the new one uncomfortable to sit in, and yet the old one had gobs of room. The design of the new ones is freakishly ugly - the old had a nice style. I only mention this because I can’t believe why the new one gets so much praise!

[@terrancecloverfield6791]

1:15 Gonna say "dying" is what to expect in California. It's simplest of math, even a janitor(me) can figure it out. You are using 61 kWh to go 250 mi distance. The average cost of destination chargers is $0.50/kWh. You paid $30 for that trip. With the Prius Prime of 50mpg, at $5/gal: you paid $25 for that trip. Let's be even less generous at 40mpg, that's $31.25. Your typical EV starts at $40k, your Prius Prime SE is $33k. And we're not even including the EV Mode into that equation. We know in California, electricity is just going to go higher in price. With strict Hybrid cars, maybe there's a slight argument to make for EV. But PHEVs? EVs are getting killed by a thousand cuts if this trend continues. You are literally getting "the best of both worlds" and a guaranteed car to last 10 years in any-all conditions, whereas EVs restrict you to mostly California and cities, where chargers are.

[@terrancecloverfield6791]

If this was a Chevrolet Volt that I'm talking about, sure we can point out the repair costs and reliability to consider the EVs for low maintenance costs. But this is a Toyota.

[@my4cars528]

dude talks about his physique more than the car!

[@devonconnor3563]

Lol thanks for the laughs! Also please, please, please stop saying ev demand is down. That is categorically false.

[@RonWilliamson-p2e]

Seems like a great option for people that can’t charge at home. Wait, oops, you still need to charge it??? Maybe just get a Model 3 or Camry.

[@TomLawlor-iq6gm]

And, charge either of those where ?

[@RussellFineArt]

Bizarre how Toyota lead the electrified game, and now, lags WAY behind! I recently sold my Toyota hybrid for a Tesla Model Y, and absolutely love it! I can charge at home, from my own solar panels, and drive ~320 miles, and quickly recharge in 15-25 min., for another 3+ hours of driving. I'll never need a gas station again.

[@TheJamesrbrown2000]

Great!

[@shawnp4840]

Toyota's Primes are basically misdirection imo. I think in the USA they sold less than 8k of these in all of 2023 and only 26k RAV4 Primes.

[@TomLawlor-iq6gm]

If Toyota could produce more Primes those numbers would skyrocket. We waited 21 months for our 24. Not many would or could wait that long.

[@myaccount__7269]

Pretty sure a model 3 is cheaper than this with rebate. And it’s better in every category. But if you can’t charge at home don’t get ev

[@toyotaprius79]

A lot of love for this generation of Prius from those who had a decade of fun hating Priuses And ultimately a car more compromised/less practical/more expensive than ever. It least it has a decent PHEV finally

[@JD-yx7be]

adjusted for inflation i think it is cheaper than ever, I remember 2nd gen pruises selling for high $20k 20 or so years ago, they are only $30k today

[@TomLawlor-iq6gm]

Ya right, Less practical.........we have 7,200+km on our 2024 Prime (that's 4,500 m), on our 2024 Prime. On, less than two fill-ups. Expensive ? You do know something about inflation don't you.

[@robervin9107]

Nate don’t leave us please stay in Colorado we can figure something out just stay by the teams side. 🤦‍♂️my heart can’t bear you going to California Ohhhh the taxes.

[@USAWILL]

His family might be the one pushing him to make the move.

[@robervin9107]

@@USAWILL. What about all his best friends. Tommy and kase and Roman they will only visit to check up and do a few videos and that’s it. They then go back home. And our iconic Nate is lonely again. Nobody mentioned that to him ? Big red flag.

[@nobrien1]

The problem with all hybrids is that each one is yet another gas engine burning gas for 10 - 20 years; or until an improved battery technology achieves critical mass. That said, I think that for over 50% of drivers EVs are an excellent choice today: people who have the ability to install a charger at home, primarily drive around town for work and whatever, and only make a 500 mile trip once or twice a year.

[@TomLawlor-iq6gm]

We live on an island that takes ten hours to drive across. It has but one highway that is a continuous route for the full breadth of the place. On busy days, there can be a very high volume of traffic with many, many cars heading in the same direction and destination. No matter which BEV you source, you'll be forced to recharge several times. So, even if you can super charge in 15-20 minutes, how long will you have to wait for a charger if there are six or seven other cars already waiting (and, you can drive no further as a BEV. Yet, even on the very busiest days, you can pump gas in 5 minutes and be on your way. We have a 24 Prime. With a full charge and full tank of gas we could almost make the trip without stopping at all. Our Prime was over $20,000 less than a Tesla. That's a lot of gas money. Having said that, after 3,700+Km, our car has had one fill-up. We don't want to burn gas, but still need to be practical

[@user-pc3xb4hd8i]

Love the fabric seats leather SUCKS

[@FreeJAC]

I assume this is a hybrid he did not say and I am not very familiar with Toyota

[@JD-yx7be]

Even people who know nothing of cars knows a Prius is a hybrid, they have been making them for 25 years now.

[@AUPNEXT]

This car genuinely looks good I can't lie

[@Digikidthevoiceofreason]

Yet another non Ev vehicle….plus it’s a Toyato. Junk.

[@WhiteWi]

Lol or you can buy tesla model 3 for just 3k more. And have way better car for the money.

[@chadhaire1711]

JUNK

[@TheLobo91]

38k for a model 3 vs 35k for a prius is not even close. Model 3 all day. I can't believe people are paying 35k for a cramped and slow car. At this price range there are much better options. Good review TFL.

[@danielberning1240]

I don't know how anyone could look at that thing and think "Hey, now there's a nice looking car". And that screen in the center of the dash is beyond hideous.

[@zeroCostravel]

Byd's PHEv goes 2000+ KM.

[@MrSGL21]

and is a BYD. no thanks. they have had 10 showroom fires in the last 3 years. this is a real car, from a real brand,

[@danielberning1240]

@@MrSGL21 Right. Because Toyota never had or has issues. They never have recalls. And none of their vehicles have ever caught on fire. Sorry, but Toyota is a nasty company that cares nothing about the envrionment and only cares about how they can swindle the next sheep into their average-at-best vehciles.

[@ArielBatista]

It's an evil manufacturer Toyota and there is no way I would ever get one. But they are still very expensive.

[@ManCaveStudio]

Birth Control on wheels LMFAO!

[@TomLawlor-iq6gm]

Oh, then lets rush up production to cater to Republicans as fast as possible. Don't they have a really, really, short gestation period. Could still make it work for you, in November, even lacking an ass.

[@MotoMengy]

But, its not an EV, its a PHEV. Its not "playing the same game" as pure EV's, its playing an entirely different game. Very misleading title there TFLEV. 😒

[@2.3_44XD--]

Cars that have to visit gas stations will be treated with a smile

[@Qrail]

But it is “playing the same game”. As an EV. My PHEV does exactly what my 11 year old Nissan Leaf could do with 46% battery SOH. 31 miles. Then I have the luxury of driving 600 miles in the gas/hybrid mode.

[@nevco8774]

There are vast spaces in the USA and Canada where even the most efficient Tesla is a scary proposal in dead winter: Alberta. Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Idaho, Eastern Washington, Eastern Oregon, Utah outside large highways, British Columbia between large cities, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, northern parts of Ontario, Quebec, Alaska, Ukon, all the North of Canada, Middle of country of the USA like Oklahoma, Missouri, etc. Looking on the map one can see the significance and need of PHEVs. The only acceptable way to own a PHEV all over USA and Canada is to be able to have a parking close to home and a plug overnight. Thanks to the fact that most remote locations, farms are still connected to the electric grid this kind of PHEV makes sense anywhere before any charging infrastructure is in place.

[@mcsike7264]

​@@Qrail with gas BC the engine charges the battery no engine no charge no range so mostly gas car 😂

[@mcsike7264]

​@@nevco8774 I watch plenty of ev road trips 1000 2000 miles and they did it just fine

[@aaammm1033]

Id rather buy a tesla. Maybe if I lived in an apartment this would be ok.

[@Poxenium]

This is not an EV. How much did Toyota pay you?

[@G-Rated]

Just been recalled. 😬

[@duaneafields]

talks like a fool. Next reviewer please

[@icy1007]

It's not an EV though. Honestly, no one should choose this over an actual EV. You get the worst of both worlds with this hybrid.

[@TomLawlor-iq6gm]

Our 2024 Prime has been in our driveway for 5 months. So far, we have driven it 7,200Km (around 4,500 m), on less than 2 tanks of gas. You don't know anything about plug-in hybrids, obviously.

[@icy1007]

@@TomLawlor-iq6gm🤣 so you barely drive it. It’s still not an EV.

[@ChicagoBob123]

Buy a used Tesla. That car is slow

[@JD-yx7be]

I remember when V8s had under 200hp lol

[@JD-yx7be]

I think the 1st gen Prius had 95hp

[@J.W.W.]

I’ve owned V8 American cars with 140 hp 😆

[@JebusHypocristosX]

Maverick is better is every way.

[@ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation]

Nice Car