This Dual Boiler coffee machine is shocking! (in a good way)

[@nbrikha]

If it was 2k from an established brand it would be an easy buy. But the deal is too good to be true tbh. We've seen other espresso brands do this and fail to bring a product to market

[@FSymanski]

Great review, I love the concept. I'd buy one to test it out. My one displeasure with their campaign, $80 shipping to the US, seems a bit unreasonable.

[@DerKaffeelehrer]

It is only a prototype. My prototype has problems with the Steam wand after a few days 😂 Brevilles machines are also available in Black and it gives you Information if your coffee is too fast or to slow, too 😂 RFID only makes sense, if your local Barista supports this.

[@Itsameamario34]

Great review! It’s hilarious how people rush to trash a new player just to defend of their precious breville machines. They must not like the innovation that a little competition can spark.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

I always like a David and Goliath story and a bit of controversy to shake things up! 😅

[@paweklonowski9133]

I have a Breville Barista Max and I wanted to exchange it for a Lelit Kate, now I want Meraki, thanks for the material, greetings from Poland

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Hey Poland! 🇵🇱 ☺️ I wouldn't recommend the Kate mainly for the reasons I spoke about in this video: integrated grinders are a bad idea and the way the Kate is built it will heat your beans in the hopper too. Buy the MaraX, Elizabeth or Victoria and a separate grinder like Eureka Mignon Specialita. Or save some money now and take a punt on the Meraki 👌

[@Kref3]

Looks great. It might be the right machine for many people. I personally do not want the espresso machine and grinder intergrated in one machine. I change my coffee about three times over the course of the day, which is why only single dose grinders fit with me. I bought one of the first Niche Zeros long before the term single dosing became common. So no, this machine will never be suitable for me. But if you like to run through one bag of beans at a time and if you like the taste of the grinder, this might be a fine machine for you. All that being said: The functions of this machine make it quite interesting, too.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Yeh it's nothing compared to the Zero but certainly a lot better than another appliance with built in grinder. If they had a version with the grinder separate that would be ideal. 🙌

[@marknolen7878]

@@Rydecoffeecoach Looks great apart from having an intergrated grinder

[@alternat1ve1]

@@Rydecoffeecoach They said they are working on one. But it will be coming not before 2026.

[@dashthe6]

My barista express just stopped working. This looks like a great option, but the electronics make me hesitant. I feel like those are the first thing to break

[@WillisKeeper]

I would prefer all steel because a) I like it and b) that makes cleaning so much easier.

[@chomp54321]

Newsflash: black does not fit in all decos. Stainless steel (brilliant or brushed) needs to be an option.

[@jaehyonlee]

I wish this review included full process from ground to extraction without music one. Like to hear the machine ..that rotary pump at least..

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Ah, sorry. It's pretty quiet.

[@stephenwilliams4406]

Do you know when you might get Version 3 to test? Hopefully early October, then when will you get the Production Model to test? Hopefully, middle to late October? I'm a Kickerstarter Backer, so VERY excited to see your upcoming reviews. Thanks.

[@SajadAhmed-bk2tb]

Great review as always Ryde what machine do you use yourself at home

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Thanks! 🙌 I use the Decent Espresso machine at home. It's been the best machine for me personally as I like to experiment and explore and learn. It can also mimic any other machine so that's handy! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eom2gmeDh7JqhcUsi=S60MWS2zq7Sj_iuO

[@robertp457]

" a company that isn't established" this is the downfall of so many Kickstarted companies. Making a few prototypes is a lot easier than mass production which is also the costliest part. I've spent thousands backing a bunch of projects that either came through with terrible products due to the cost of bringing them to market or failed to bring anything to market to the cost of bringing a new product to market. If they make consistently great machines if they go into production, I would consider buying one after a production model review.

[@Luckyme-kq3sq]

Hi, great review of the Meraki. I am an Aussie backer and we are at the stage of deciding colour and shipping method - the Meraki team are saying we should choose the sea shipping option (which will take 1-2 months or longer as it will be over the Xmas period ) as the air freight option will involve longer customs time. Do you know if your machine was shipped to you via air freight or sea shipping and do you know if it was delayed through customs? The air freight is considerably more expensive however I was hoping to receive it prior to Xmas so I am looking for the fastest, not cheapest option. I would really appreciate your input. Many thanks 😊

[@johnbrotherton4382]

I know this is already at least a month old video, so I hope this message makes it to you. You said by the looks of it, there is a good chance it will be a reliable machine. Is their any idea yet when it will come to market. I would be interested in buying one.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

They are saying Q1 2025. 🙏

[@johnbrotherton4382]

@@Rydecoffeecoach thank you for replying. I own a barista touch, but in my opinion, with that level of control, and ease of use, that looks like a big upgrade. Now I just have to convince my wife

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

😅 that's the biggest challenge!

[@paulvictor9368]

I was sold on an ECM Synchronika, but now I am wondering if it would be a waste of money. This looks truly impressive and great value for money.

[@yellowwducky]

They just released a version 2 fyi. I was tempted but went with a Rocket R91 instead.

[@paulvictor9368]

@@yellowwducky thank you. Why did you choose the Rocket over the Synchronika?

[@yellowwducky]

@@paulvictor9368 Well when I got the R91 the v2 synchronica wasn't even available (it was a couple months later). I got the rocket because I wanted the saveable pressure/volume profiles 'automatically' rather than relying on myself to use the top flow control knob consistently over and over on the synchronica (cause I am lazy!). I also preferred the gear pump over rotary (and of course over a vibratory).

[@paulvictor9368]

@@yellowwducky thank you! You give me a lot to ponder now. I need something where I can set and forget it. It must be able to produce a coffee while I am running late, so I feel your sentiment. Thanks. ☺️

[@yellowwducky]

@@paulvictor9368 I will tell you, what is nice is you can set it to turn on and off on a schedule twice a day. So you could have it on 30 mins pre getting up and ready to go. As long as you cand dose out your grinds accurately, with a saved profile it will literally be accurate to an output volume that for all intents and purposes is 'set and forget' - assuming your grinds are consistent. Only consideration is as they age in the hopper you likely need to run slightly heavier dosages until you get fresh again.

[@IIIxwaveIII]

how will one get service for this machine? the problem with these kickstarter projects is the long term support...

[@desmondlewissmith]

This machine will most likely vanish, then you can't get parts and maintenance. Would also love to see the support model. Breville provides great support, plus Breville owns Lelit.

[@Which_Way]

What are you tamping with??????

[@humlakullen]

Lol… My Barista Express have consistently made better coffee than I get at my local Starbucks, for over seven years now.Only machine I’ll ever need.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

until it breaks and you can't repair it...

[@humlakullen]

@@Rydecoffeecoach Still going strong… Best investment I’ve ever made. If it breaks, I gladly buy another one.

[@boots3152]

Right? I guess Breville didn’t pay him enough to brag about their products, oh wait, they don’t need to.

[@Jb-sv5mw]

Better than Starbucks isn’t much of a baseline lol

[@humlakullen]

@@Jb-sv5mw Why not?

[@footsmakenzyhellothr]

Here’s a corrected version of your sentence: This is unrelated, but do you have a video of the best fully automatic machines between $2,000 and $4,000?

[@healer81]

I have a problem with all the plastic. I'd spend a little more for stainless steel

[@ToastedSkippy]

Would this be good for small starting coffee catering company? We do more filter nd want to offer espresso

[@ToastedSkippy]

More clarification is that we want to start cheaper then getting a loan nd buying a full on espresso machine

[@maradonamartin9870]

gday mate...i know u got so many machine, can i buy this prototype of u mate instead of back up their kickstarter....cheers mate

[@toni4729]

GET ON WITH IT.

[@loriosterweil982]

I saw the shot before you put the milk in and it looked watery. Was that my imagination?

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Nah it was probably over extracted if anything. I made the shot quickly to have something to pour the milk on but I hadn't dialled the beans in so it came out a little slow. 👌

[@loriosterweil982]

@@Rydecoffeecoach Thanks for your response.

[@patrickliu396]

How does this machine compare to Decent?

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

It can't really compare with the Decent. It's not advanced enough nor would the build quality be near. It's really only comparable with your appliance machines. 😓

[@MortenRyberg]

Been looking at this for a month… I just dont know how to get it repaired if something goes wrong, and cant seem to find a place to get an answer for this question

[@jmeryllman]

They share the same service centers as Timemore. If you have them in your country, you are in luck.

[@markbrooks6979]

Interesting! I wish there was a premium version that wasn't so plasticky. If they come out with a $2,000 USD model that has a better grinder and better overall build quality, I would be very interested. Also, it looks like a pain to clean.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Yeh I hope they have plans for the next models and a premium version of this (maybe without the grinder too) would be awesome.

[@andromedach]

Ninja is a bigger threat to Breville than this kickstarter machine.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

not even close. The Ninja is not serious

[@nevilenobody606]

"Prototype". Let's see the final product before proclaiming it's a XWZ killer.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Yeh but it's not like Breville make quality products anyway. I mentioned I have had 4 Brevilles fail on me and I'm not exaggerating, they are as unreliable as Google maps 😅

[@Rick9482]

Pretty expensive for an unproven product. IMO, not knowing the pressure of the extraction is pretty wierd. I like the rotary pump but otherwise, it should display more data. I've been a Decent user for 5 years now so I'm not about to change. Oddly, with the best machine on the market, my favorite is a huge americano that I sip for hours. One of those special extraction recipes only Decent can deliver. I'd like to see this machine opened up so we can see the build quality.

[@greysuit17]

At its full retail price $1800 usd is a hard sell. Buy an appliance or buy better built machines for a similar price.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Oh yeh, but compared to the new Oracle it's way cheaper and better. I don't think it's too much for a direct comparative like that. If you had the budget, a Profitec 600 would be much better but you'd still need a grinder and while I'd still always prefer a Rancilio Silvia over an appliance machine for that price, this has more features than anything else in its class.

[@greysuit17]

@@Rydecoffeecoach true. It’s definitely competitive and at the kickstarter price it’s a no brainer. I hope they make a higher end model.

[@toni4729]

WE can bloodywell SEE THE THING. GET ON WITH IT.

[@ekaram63]

Durable ownership depends upon the use of non-propriatary parts and copper/brass internal plumbing. That's why I avoid Breville.

[@kirkzweibruck]

Its way too expensive for a company on kickstarter

[@toni4729]

Get to the point and stop selling it before you tell us about it. You've already put me off it waiting.

[@Weeem]

Ironically our Sage Dual Boiler is one of the last matte black ones. Was never a fan of the bare metal look

[@randomshotsbyks]

Naah company is new cant be trusted breville has good support

[@Presso99]

Built in grinder is not my preference

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Mine either. But it's isn't "built in" like the others. It's standalone. But also, they are making another model without the grinder.

[@JackRiverD]

@@Rydecoffeecoach They are??? Can you elaborate on the plans for the model without the grinder? Also, I don't suppose that grinder can be removed and my DF54 stood in its place by any chance???

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

No unfortunately you can't replace the grinder. I'll get more info on the model without a grinder and get back to you, that's as much as I know at this point.

[@Presso99]

@@Rydecoffeecoach so far, as i know only 2 models, which is Infuser and Bambino

[@HWC91]

How is it a breville killer if it costs you almost 3k AUD atm?? It's more like a bank account killer for the average home coffee drinkers

[@allanflynn8026]

$3k is ONLY 0.5% the cost of the average Australian home..😂

[@boots3152]

It’s because they paid him to say it lol

[@arnoldferrera1185]

Though this design wouid save you counter space I would never buy a 3 in 1 machine. When 1 part is broken the other 2 is affected.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

This is true. I've given my feedback and suggested they have the grinder operate independently if the main computer dies.👌

[@ricric9521]

cost prohibitive

[@ABach-ld2oc]

I won't trash this matte black machine because it is the same person who would "probably" not definitely murder out their car in all matte black (interior, exterior, wheels, grilles, badges, etc). As a stainless steel espresso machine lover, I love my la Pavoni Botticelli that i've had for the last 3 years and would not trade it for anything unless it was more beautiful with more stainless steel. I was unfortunate to have a breville during the first year of ownership of my La Pavoni and well, the breville sucked badly. I hated the matte coloring of the machine. It looked hideous, in my opinion. To those that buy this machine, I would highly recommend to wait until it becomes established and sold on the market for more than a year and has solid reviews by multiple reviewers. You do not have to be the first to rush out and waste money without doing some research. These machines are mean't for long term investments (investment in your espresso shots you will be pulling). Enjoy whatever you decide on and buy what you can afford.

[@donaldholman9070]

Coffee machines are not an investment.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

The same way fresh air isn't an investment? 🙄

[@boots3152]

Took you almost 4 minutes to admit you’ve gotten this for free and before that you sounded like you were reading from a script they gave you. You’re bragging the durability of a machine that’s in a kickstarter and no durability to speak of. You have a lot of “beliefs” about it that I’m sure were provided by the company.

[@mserrano9644]

Okay, but it should be noted that this machine costs almost 3x more than Breville...

[@Azure1964]

Breville Oracle is $2599 in Australia. This is not $7700.

[@mserrano9644]

@@Azure1964 Breville Oracle is not the ever popular Breville Barista Express USD699.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

I mentioned the Oracle several times as this is the direct competitor to it. You can't compare this machine to the Barista Express because it suits your price argument. For starters, the express is not a dual boiler and has no features at all and actually, is one of the worst appliance machines out there. It's not even worth 699 in my opinion. I would buy the Maraki several times over before I'd touch a barista express.

[@mserrano9644]

@@Rydecoffeecoach I see. My bad. Sorry for confusing it with Breville Barista Express (my machine for 5 years) because obviously you are too good for even toucinhg it. Maybe reconsider your clickbait thumb "Breville killer" and change it to "Oracle killer" to avoid BBE owners like me.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Not too good for touching it. I owned one and was incredibly disappointed with it. You might be happy with it and that's great as that's your opinion and mine is mine. I still think it's a Breville killer as I think for the extra $400 it's still a huge upgrade over the BBE. 👌

[@kalista37]

This looks like it belongs in a salon not my kitchen, and not stop talking crap it's not a killer of anything

[@hojuguy]

You say that you had a lot of breville machines fail on you and so your recommendation is that we should buy untested machine, from a untested manufacturer? Ummm no thanks. It's just ugly plastic toy in a infommercial.

[@gaildemontigny6016]

It is ugly

[@bobcat7664]

Sorry mate Breville is a lot better machine than that one it looks ugly as well

[@somshu238]

Breville looks like it belongs in Kmart for 100$

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

@somshu238 😅