This is a MESS! What Jaclyn Hill DIDN'T Say! | What's Up in Makeup SPECIAL EDITION

[@meowcenary21]

As a woman working in a professional space, I have secondhand embarrassment for how Jaclyn handled this. The high school antics are clearly a reflection of the headspace and morals of Jaclyn.

[@violetann3156]

​@@Petunia1738what a weird response

[@kairos-049]

As a grown adult who knows how to own up to my mistakes and work on my shortcomings, I also get a lot of secondhand embarrassment from her years-long streak of acting like a spoiled child.

[@JackOllie4]

​@@Petunia1738... How about you now muster up the balls to come back on here and explain your disparaging and misogynistic comment? Or are you nothing more than a keyboard coward?

[@xtine1031]

@@violetann3156 agreed

[@sherryelle225]

​@@Petunia1738What's wrong with that?

[@9whilenine]

I don’t understand why Jaclyn thought that the screenshots would help her. Instead, they confirmed everything that Jen and Marlena said all along.

[@kimberlywelch4198]

I believe they made Marlena look even better, she tried to be friendly long after she should have known it was over. Jaclyn Shill is everything that is wrong with social media.

[@aliespice]

Exactly!! 💯

[@kairos-049]

I don't think critical thinking is really her strong suit. If it were, she probably wouldn't be so quick to make claims that are verifiably false (and pretty easily falsifiable, at that) time, after time, after time, after time, so on and so forth.

[@sunklee]

Yes, EXACTLY!!

[@CookieMunstaaa]

Because she genuinely doesn't think she has done anything wrong.

[@WhiteRaven696]

I feel like if Jaclyn had just told Marlena “Hey, I planned this out poorly, Becca and Morphe have me under contract and I can’t fit you in” things would’ve been resolved so much smoother.

[@SelinaCat]

That would've been the mature thing to do, but I think she didn't do it on purpose incase things fell through. She wanted Marlena in the "friend zone"

[@adamlambboy8332]

Maybe but I think it was too late by then. Marlena jumped the gun and ordered product without Jalyn committing. In the business world you never do anything without signed paperwork. Unfortunately it was a hard learned lesson. You can’t rely on anyone.

[@kelly_villalobos]

Jaclyn doesn’t have the mental capacity to think like that.

[@ChrystalVanDusseldorp]

It's scary when people are good liars and deceivers, it's even scarier when they believe their own lies and think they are not accountable for anything.

[@Sabrina-bv9uw]

Yesss exactly this!

[@sandrajayandran]

Yes, she's a Meghan Markle. Always the victim

[@beckychave]

Yes absolutely 💯

[@nina2222]

Yesssss !

[@kristigibbons8520]

She thinks everyone in the world is dumb enough to buy into her crap! From the lies about packaging to the stealing of trade secrets, we are all just to naive to put it all together!

[@myshittyreviews]

I find it funny that Jaclyn’s says she isn’t going to put her name on something she doesn’t believe in…and then went with cheap Morphe products and bad labs. 🙄🙄

[@fswindell]

She always used to say that and even tearfully promised “to never put money first” in this old video from a long time ago. She clearly put money first above everything else… LOL

[@jcs137]

She was inexperience, naive and unethical.

[@MissLexxxInStereo]

That was her showing us what she believes in. It was the $. Not the friends, not the consumer, not her viewers...the $. She was truthful. We just believed in her more than we should have

[@kristinbagrier178]

She literally went with the two labs she was warned against. You reap what you sow...Hairy lipsticks.

[@bvtsunamiwake21]

That was just instant karma taking a service road. 🤣🤣🤣

[@MetamorphosisRox]

My favorite lipstick is 1995. I found out two years after I started buying it that this was a Jaclyn Hill shade. Not everyone that buys from Gerard, especially post Kaboom situation, purchased because of Miss Hill.

[@lolamurder1882]

I bought 1995 a few years ago and had no idea they were JH picked colors and names. I probably would not have purchased had I known.

[@Andi-Bee]

@JustAnne turned me onto GC

[@Kristina_with_the_K]

I like that color too and I’m just finding out in the last month that her name was ever associated with it.

[@Yorufan7]

I have literally always thought 1995 was just a popular shade from Gerard, I had no idea it was JH’s shade until all this came up

[@suzannahaynie2186]

​@lolamurder1882 I had no idea 1995 had anything to do with JH. I am glad I didn't know, because I wouldn't have bought it if I had. I knew almost nothing about JH until her lipstick mess. l was not impressed.

[@shannonquinn]

All hail Jen, Provider of Full Stories, Compiler of Information, Organizer of Epic Amounts of Bull***t, and Amazing Example of Integrity, First of Her Name. 😂 Thank you SO much for doing ALL this work, so we don't have to. I bow to your work ethic, patience, and HUGE amount of effort!!!

[@jenluv]

Love you, Shannon!!!!! ❤❤❤

[@IshaAbreu]

I literally just post a similar thought lol Thank you Jen , YOU are the best !!!

[@jcs137]

Stellar work !

[@dominiquenicole6266]

@jenluv has nerves of steel to muck through all this! I would have thrown my hands up after only a few minutes 🤣

[@handsoaphandsoap]

It’s hilarious to me that Jaclyn is still playing the victim, as she does in every single one of her scandals. Girl, you’re the common denominator here. At this point it’s a pattern of behavior, take a hard look in the mirror.

[@rootintobeing]

Bingo! Find the common denominator.

[@JessicaHauserman]

I actually don't entirely agree with this. Jaclyn has clearly made mistakes, but the real common denominator here is Morphe/Linda. I'd like to see Morphe get a little more heat. Jaclyn has been taking the grunt of it all and yes she herself has made mistakes and she is a grown adult and has made decisions both professionally and business-minded, but I truly think Morphe jumped all over Jaclyn and tried to get her to do things. Honestly I just want to see Morphe's side of things and I don't understand why more people aren't calling Morphe out. If all this information is true, Morphe was there for all of it (and I'm sure Jaclyn told Linda/Morphe EVERYTHING) and I want to know what Morphe's take on it all is.

[@sjworrier0613]

It’s sad bc if she made a video admitting to all her lies and mistakes… people would treat her like she was the second coming of Christ and forgive her like that and she still chooses to deflect and whine “I didn’t do anything wrong and if I did I wasn’t aware of it!!!”.

[@belle.m]

@@JessicaHausermanI agree , i think Morphe did a lot here, but I also think Jaclyn was making decisions based on money and clout, and lying about things is not a way to deal with bad decisions. She should have just been honest with Marlena and told her she wanted to work with MG but she was already under contracts, so maybe collab later. Everyone knows Jaclyn is poison now, two makeup brands have gone down because of her, her own brand is drama, and she steals ideas off smaller brands. She’s toxic

[@handsoaphandsoap]

​@@JessicaHauserman While I don't disagree that Morphe is a problematic company whose history is riddled with controversy, I don't think they can be blamed for this situation. Jaclyn was the one who overbooked herself and screwed over Marlena (though I will say, Marlena should never have begun production on anything until she had Jaclyn under a contract, that was irresponsible of her) and Jaclyn is entirely responsible for her part in the entirety of the Gerard Cosmetics scandal, you can't put that on Morphe/Linda when Jaclyn was the one to break ties with Gerard and she was the one who demanded money from them despite them already having met her other demands of having her face and name taken off the products, and she's the one who went on to publicly slander the brand and attempt to sabotage their business. On top of that, every other scandal unrelated to these two are also her responsibility. She blames the factory for the lipstick situation when it's her negligence of not properly scouting the manufacturer that is going to be producing the makeup she's putting her name on, she does a little revisionist history by blaming Becca for the subpar quality of her eyeshadow palette collab where before she claimed to have been an active participant in its creation, etc. etc. It doesn't really matter what Morphe is doing behind the scenes, Jaclyn is a full grown adult who has full agency in her decisions and she made the decisions she made. She could've owned up to her mistakes and apologized but she instead did what she always does, diverted blame and minimized her own part.

[@Andi-Bee]

My good lord, this woman is the actual definition of a narcissistic human. Thank you Jen and team!

[@sandrag3854]

My thoughts exactly!

[@Yikes702]

The term is "malignant narcissist."

[@vksof]

Its better to not second-hand diagnose other people, it takes away from the fact that these are all just choices by Jaclyn to prioritize money over quality, over friends, and over her fans. Its nothing to ddo with NPD, it stigmatizes actual people who are diagnosed and getting help for the disorder.

[@8luelight]

@@vksof it is so refreshing to see a normal human being with respect for people out in the wild holy shit

[@Rumifor2000s]

This is what happens when a business is driven by money and pure greed. It was not only Jaclyn. Morphe had a huge influence in all this mess and no one is talking enough about Linda’s company’s actions. The big companies ruining ethic business owners as always, sad but nothing new.

[@randomhumans1395]

I know? Like why everyone praises Linda? Wtf

[@anetehofmane]

Give it time.

[@monroeglam]

Exactly what Rich Lux stated yesterday...Linda's name is always thrown about and plays a HUGE part in all of this but no one says ANYTHING about her involvement. Something is up with that.

[@amyclause2298]

This!!! My thoughts exactly for a long time now.

[@JessicaHauserman]

Yes! THIS! Linda and Morphe are the common denominator here, not Jaclyn. Jaclyn should be getting heat, but I feel like nobody is talking about the wrong things Linda and Morphe has done. I truly do believe Linda/Morphe took advantage of Jaclyn (and other influencers) and I think Jaclyn didn't even realize it. Jaclyn is always talking about how great and friendly Linda is, but like... hello? Are you not seeing what they have done to your career? Not to say Jaclyn shouldn't be held accoutable for a lot of it, but nobody is deep diving into Morphe... Morphe should be the next egg to crack open. Manny too, but that's a whole nother mess that probably won't happen. After the Jeffree thing, I don't see Manny inserting himself into this, and even if people start talking about his involvement, he's not going to say anything because he knows that will open a new can of worms that he does not want opened. Lol

[@Masculineintuitionreadings]

I’m a dude that’s not into makeup but the drama is too good. Thanks for this extensive explanation

[@Blast2224]

Same dude. There’s a Dramageddon, there’s a sequel with James. Karmageddon which nearly got rid of jefffrey star. It’s like Star Wars. Jaclyn is having her Rogue One story. She’s practically Vader.

[@MelissaPennyArcaid]

😂❤ best comment

[@twinkle7389]

@@Blast2224 I'm impressed with how much you've been up to date🫡 as a woman who's generally more or less in the know of what's happening, you know even more than me😂

[@fabby0421]

@@Blast2224 leave Vader alone, at the end he went to the light side, I think she is Palpatine 😂

[@kimkkillen]

Jen, I watched the ENTIRE video and am giving you a standing ovation!!!! I applaud your time and effort in tackling this mess! You've parsed it out in a way that shows the truth crystal clear. You should win an award for investigative journalism because YOU ARE worthy!!!! Thank you so much!!!!! I am grateful that you, Marlena, and Jen were willing to share and shine the light on the truth of Jaclyn's tactics, horrid ethics, and business practices.

[@naomielaf]

1000% agree with your comment!

[@yolysantana7525]

She just proved them right … nothing about her messages indicated anything in her favor …

[@rabbiroz3806]

Clearly Jaclyn is a snake. But I hope Marlena and Jen learned that you don’t go forward on a project without a signed contract. It is gratifying that the truth is finally coming out and, hopefully, Jaclyn’s cosmetics career is over. We don’t need the drama.

[@halieransom]

Agreed.

[@lucyjane3803]

The thing is, if everything was agreed upon in writing, that is still a contract. And even WITH an official signed contract, legal action would have been necessary. Jaclyn clearly knows that in general smaller independent brands just don't have the means to take legal action, and she takes FULL advantage of that. Notice she didn't try to f*** around when it came to an Estee Lauder brand like Becca because their legal team would have squashed her like a fly.

[@rabbiroz3806]

@@lucyjane3803 I didn’t think of that. Thank you. It’s just a shame that one person’s greed could hurt so many other’s livelihoods.

[@jennifercamp79]

That is what I was thinking all along.

[@loricawley54]

@@lucyjane3803Not necessarily true. Marlena said in her reply on the Reddit Snark thread that JH stole a packaging idea from Becca so clearly JH WASN’T afraid of Ester Lauder’s lawyers if she was bold enough to steal packaging from Becca.

[@AuroraR]

The fact that she really thought she was clearing her name and wasn’t making herself look worse. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@kurtzbomb]

I know right? The only thing that was missing was a ukulele

[@lachapis7674]

I can’t help but laugh. I’m only a few minutes in and I already caught her in a lie. She asked Jen to either pay her the money or remove the colors. I can’t believe I followed this woman for so long.

[@kristigibbons8520]

Same! I’ve always been guilty of giving people far more grace and chances than they deserve. I’m finished with that now!

[@Itallia135]

Welcome to the light 💡

[@bambilanz]

I never enjoyed her videos she always gave me the ick. But she’s definitely a master manipulator IMO so can’t blame people for not noticing right away

[@chercruz9344]

The nerve. Those are jens products she doesn’t have to pay her or take them down.

[@Missginalove]

Jaclyn, thinks we are all stupid. Look Jaclyn , We all make mistakes sometimes. All you had to say is, "I was a little cocky and selfish back then, and I'm learning from my mistakes." Thank God my hubby always corrects me when I'm out of line, because sometimes we need somebody to balance us, or we can go overboard and become diva's. but since her husband is unemployed and employed by her he going to be a yes man.

[@stephanieramadhar9585]

The problem is she says that a LOT but there's no changed behavior. Ever.

[@Petunia1738]

I don’t think it’s our business if her husband works or not lol

[@misshell2223]

​@@Petunia1738 I think it was more so of a reference to her being thankful she has her husband to "ground her" whereas JH's husband works for her/her brand so more likely than not he just agrees with whatever she says or does; not so much of a dig at his actual "unemployment" but tbh that's just my quick assessed opinion.

[@aliespice]

It's like she doesn't understand that being humble and honest, would get her further than acting so delusional. Flat out insulting peoples inteligence. She's so used to stomping on others that she will show the truth, thinking it will clear her name, when all it did was confirm exactly who she is. Smh.

[@princessnjj]

She’s not and why would she, she living the privilege life. This has happened so many times it’s not even funny and now it’s just who she is. She’s going to continue to be this way because so many people believe her lies, I mean honestly why wouldn’t she keep doing it, it funds her lifestyle

[@Ashestomo]

The podcasts from the sesh with Marlena and Jen are everything my makeup loving self wanted in 2015😂😊

[@lenusniq_9746]

IMHO Makeup geek had grounds to sue even though there was no contract. Their communication clearly indicates that there was a collab, reasonable expectations that the contract would be singed and Makeup Geek acted upon such reasonable expectations.... but yeah, it's always more clear/sure to have a contract.

[@mommafletch]

There is absolutely, 100 percent, "implied contract" here, that could have been presented in a court of law. Implied contract is enforceable. But... what I am supposing, is that nobody at MUG wanted to spend the time and money (especially after losing income on product) hiring lawyers to do that.

[@lenusniq_9746]

@@mommafletch I think that Marlena is just way too nice person, and she still considered JH her friend.

[@Happine5s]

Yeah Marlena did say she was going through a traumatic time in her personal life at the time and couldn’t muster the energy to get out of bed let alone a court case - totally understandable. I wonder if she could still do it tho?

[@robinwhite1453]

Karma paid her back when Morphe declared bankruptcy and threw her claims out!

[@misshell2223]

Those were my thoughts immediately upon learning of the bankruptcy/JH not actually owning her brand!!! Hope she has enjoyed tearing so many others down to get ahead whilst stepping on those that helped her up bc I'm not sure too many other brands/companies will be willing to work with someone that is clearly an extremely narcissistic liar that has no issue w/destroying anything tht doesn't put her in a better financial position!

[@jenna1157]

she did not see that one coming. that's for sure

[@lawyerinred4293]

If Jaclyn thought her likeness was attached to those shades she would’ve got the lawyers involved from the get-go…she was just trying to chance a money grab, ew

[@JudithLawrence718]

You call it a money grab, I call it raking JenGerard over the coals.

[@PamelaH_HappyVibes]

Jen’s and Marlena’s final words on the snark subreddit are a f@cking mic drop! 🎤 I wouldn’t have ever bought anything JH if I had known, it turns my stomach!!!

[@shaniakey2149]

It’s the way she continues to lead her on a launch date and then last minute pull out KNOWING the WHOLE time she’s NOT gonna actually do it!!!!

[@mariad.6618]

Exactly! She knew how that would have to hurt MUG cosmetics

[@ashleyvairo5655]

Jen, I haven't even gotten a 1/3 into this video but I already want to say thank you. You take so much time in your videos and the planning and your content is always amazing. I appreciate you and how hard you work to deliver stories accurately. Thank you for taking the time to make this video and for STILL creating a WUIM on top of it this week!

[@berrytaylor12]

This 100%

[@anniefranks6881]

The person that vile woman hurt, gaslit & stole the most from was an innocent, kind, trusting, funny, gentle, loving, grateful, handsome & beyond talented musician named Jon Hill…He was the complete opposite of what Jaclyn is, she chewed him up for years telling him he wasn’t good enough, making a fool out of him & exposing him to her millions of rabid fans, then spits him out in his darkest hours while simultaneously hooking up with the guy he hired to film his music videos in their marital home! Jon was depressed, lost, lonely & all alone when he tragically passed away on a dirty sidewalk in LA where the coroner ruled the cause as a drug overdose but anyone that knew him knows he died years earlier from an inordinate amount of stress, chronic manipulation, berated for his lack of business knowledge thus having no desire to play into “keeping up w/the Jones’s”, demeaned for his charming qualities that originally caused her to fall in love w/him…Jaclyn laughingly counted the money while Jon was dying from having his heart callously shattered & repeatedly stomped on by the one person he trusted & truly loved, for all the world to see! Rest in peace Jon Hill & know you are sorely missed & loved by your friends & family💙🥁🙏🏼

[@JenGerard]

He had a gentle spirit . Someone you could not help but love . It’s heartbreaking how he left this earth 💔

[@z.c.m9908]

I'm crying... I'm actually crying..because I feel that in my soul and that makes me Soo sad . I'm so sorry jon. You deserved better.

[@cottoncandie761]

I'd had no idea what was going on in her relationship whateoever but the littlest bit I've found through documents, reminds me of criminal cases where the responsible party gets life without parole. Oh how the mighty WILL FALL for her folly.

[@mariad.6618]

I was always uncomfortable with how she treated him and how she threw him under the bus.

[@beshiiisimasi1991]

very sorry for your loss . thats insane that happened . i look at their old videos and they looked so in love. Jaclyn has alot of karma to pay back. money and fame is what destroyed their marriage. knowing that jordans brother passed away i have no idea how he can live with the thought that he married someone elses wife .

[@kaseygoss]

Damn Jen! You really knocked this out of the park! THANK YOU for working so hard to create a timeline with all of the pieces. You deserve an award, my friend.🏆🥇Well done & many thanks for giving the truth a platform.❤🥰

[@Cstulhu]

That old snap is hilarious. Jaclyn saying she wouldn’t put her name on anything she didn’t believe in is beyond laughable. Her entire history of product collaborations and personal release with her own failed companies (aside from Champagne Pop) have been cheap, rushed, botched in some form. She’s a complete charlatan, absolute laziest work ethic but unfortunately she is great at convincing her followers she’s the victim. I wish nothing but the best for Marlena, Jen and everyone else Jaclyn has taken away from (in some form).

[@Yikes702]

Somehwere on a ranch in Wyoming is a tall, blond, heavily tattooed man sitting on a couch surrounded by his pomeranians, cackling at this video, saying, "And you all thought I was controversial." LOL.

[@sarahnoel2533]

I noticed Jaclyn’s tactics years ago before she released the original white palette with Morphe. I didn’t purchase that palette despite all the rave reviews, and have not supported her or followed her on any platform since. As the old saying goes ‘fool me once shame on you…fool me twice shame on me.’

[@grantmegan91]

Why did u use this quote when your first sentence was how you were never fooled by jaclyn

[@AmonarayIsalay]

Nothing matters more than relationships. It’s better to lose a little money than to lose a trusted friend

[@marlbboro8091]

As a former banker I would warn you against that kind of thinking. 😛 But I get the essence of what you mean ❤

[@AmonarayIsalay]

@@marlbboro8091 i get what you’re saying too 😃

[@mariad.6618]

That's why there is the old saying to "never go into business with a friend"

[@BoricuaGirl69]

Great work Jen! Now I’m waiting for Jacklyn to post a new apology video in her gray apology hoodie 😂

[@lauraoliver525]

😅

[@shayshaymann113]

I saw in real time when that was posted on Reddit, and I too had to read it 3 times to try and understand what she was trying to say, as well as questioning if it was really her that posted it! I believe 100% it was posted by Jaclyn! I also believe she really thought she did something there with her screenshots, but she actually made herself look even worse. She proved she’s incapable of apologizing and taking true accountability for anything at all! Marlena Stell’s and Jenn Gerard’s responses were GOLDEN! they (as well as us in that group) saw right through it! I’m glad they’re standing their ground with her and aren’t letting her manipulate the narrative! Jaclyn was 100% trying to spin a narrative to deflect

[@coffeebeforemascara]

Her response being so difficult to read/understand is giving "word salad" vibes.... a classic narcissistic technique my husband did it all the time when we would have an argument

[@shayshaymann113]

@@coffeebeforemascaraexactly! They do it to cause confusion so you second guess yourself! Jaclyn really does think she’s the smartest person ever lol! She underestimates the intelligence of the internet. Literally everything she says and has said can be fact checked. She’s so stupid it’s comical at this point lol 😂

[@misshell2223]

​@@coffeebeforemascaraomg omg omg!!!! Something that has always driven me to the crazy side of CRAZY; it would finally just get to the point where I'd say u kno what-just fk it bc it was a total headache just having to repeat myself over n over saying "NO! That is not what I said!" Or my favorite of having to ask him "So out of everything I've just stated *that* is what you concluded?!!" My goodness the stress that shit induced; not including whatever it was at the time we were arguing about!!!! Ugh. Sry if tht was tmi but reading ur comment sent me straight to tht particular head space🤯😵‍💫🤮

[@evolingwren]

It's time to grey-rock Jaclyn. Like any malignant narcissist, she's getting off on the drama she's creating. She's gonna grasp for any piece of control she can, and she'll hurt whoever she needs to to control the narrative.

[@lisadgingersnaps9843]

Has she gone full D.A.R.V.O. yet?

[@lindabuck2777]

@@lisadgingersnaps9843Ahem..scuse me, can you tell me what that stands for? Thank you🙏🏻

[@SelinaCat]

I'll take the hit for education, gray-rock?

[@vemontebello]

@@SelinaCat basically if we as a collective react to her foolishness in a way that is boring as possible, then we cut off her supply. Disengaging from her entirely is the only way to get her to stop.

[@SelinaCat]

@@vemontebello I've been trying to do that with JS for years and yet....😒

[@lubeeluonline]

Thank you so much for doing the leg work to make this make sense for us. Jen, Marlena, Gabby & Kalyn have been so hurt, in some cases irreparably, and this was no apology, in my opinion. If JH came forward & offered a full & frank apology, maybe even an offer of some financial compensation, it would be a start.

[@rhondatucker4217]

Her saying that she won't put her name on something she doesn't believe in is absolutely hilarious to me, what you think we all wanted furry/hairy lips....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jPiper0516]

this is what I was thinking.....now it makes sense why that happened.

[@Kittichanlove]

You’re a great orator and storyteller. Thanks for the timeline

[@Guilty_Feet]

Jaclyn is such an effective spin doctor. She sounds so convincing until facts and receipts come out.

[@stephaniechilton5785]

Why at my age did I just get the meaning behind “spin doctor”? Honestly, thank you. That girl is a mess for sure, but I think that describes her to a T.

[@rockergirl20]

That look in the first few seconds is a mirror to what we all look like. We appreciate your time and effort.😁

[@MetamorphosisRox]

Wow. Excellent job. Marlena and Jen are such good people. They didn’t deserve this. I will say, Peter Monn does not believe in karma because we don’t always see the fallout. I think both Morphe and Jaclyn are proof sometimes Karma shows the reckoning.

[@msdouglas12100]

I personally believe in karma closer to the Hindu Buddhist beginnings maybe karma doesn't show up in this lifetime but might show up in the next life.

[@lindabuck2777]

@@msdouglas12100No no, all you put forward comes back to you all energies good bad or otherwise. Its the one immutable law. 🙏🏻❤️🤔

[@msdouglas12100]

@@lindabuck2777 Karma is a concept of Hinduism which describes a system in which beneficial effects are derived from past beneficial beauty and harmful effects from past harmful actions, creating a system of actions and reactions throughout a soul's reincarnated lives, forming a cycle of rebirth. This is what I personally believe so I'm not sure why you are telling me no.

[@creatrixZBD]

@@msdouglas12100 the “post-post-modern” appropriation of the term “karma” is what used to be known as “poetic justice.” As an aspect of first-worlder pop culture, it’s kinda irksome

[@DionLuvsMakeup]

I usually dislike when the word "narcissist" is tossed around. However, as someone with PhD in Psychology and having worked with a few clients that were already diagnosed as narcissistic, J fits it 100%. There isn't any effective treatment for a narcissistic diagnosis. They're in their own head regardless of what's said to them, regardless of the consequences of their behavior. They feel they're misunderstood and also a victim. So, no, she'll never hold herself accountable. Furthermore, she's a pathological liar and delusional, she believes her own lies.

[@ZijnShayatanica]

As someone who has been diagnosed variously w/ ASPD & NPD, someone who has come a long way in effectively curbing my shitty tendencies to cultivate a fuller life... It's kind of upsetting to hear a professional taking such a black & white stance on an entire group of people. Are most narcissists/antisocial people resistent to change - largely due to a lack of awareness or a false belief that it is their strength? Obviously. But I've consistently sought help & been told by several professionals I was a "lost cause" simply because of a diagnosis on my record. It's not until my recent therapist that I find someone willing to hear me out... I know I'm not the usual case, but I'd hope you aren't dismissing patients wholesale & considering them unchanging simply because of that diagnosis. People are complex & no group is a monolith. Sorry for getting on my soap box - it's a tricky situation & I definitely don't want to diminish the harm anyone has done. And I definitely agree that Jaclyn qualifies, both as someone w/ narc tendencies AND someone who has demonstrated an inability to change. But... I think it's important not to lose nuance in our emotional reactions.

[@DionLuvsMakeup]

@ZijnShayatanica Thank you for your comment. No, I'm not dismissing patients wholesale or considering them unchangeable due to a diagnosis. I was speaking from my experience, as well as research I've read. Please keep in mind that I did say only a few of my clients were diagnosed with NPD. And, that's from the hundreds of clients I've worked with throughout my clinical career. I do know a diagnosis is a diagnosis and not the person as a whole being. Yes, I believe that with help and a willingness to change, change can occur. It's refreshing to hear a success story, so thank you for sharing yours 🙂

[@ZijnShayatanica]

@@DionLuvsMakeup I hope it didn't come off that I was leveling any accusations! It's a delicate balance, trying to ensure no one [especially victims] feel like I'm making excuses but also having been a firsthand witness to how the stigma can impede the ability to get help. It's already a difficult diagnosis that many people will not get to a point of even imperfect recovery for... I truly wonder sometimes how many people might accept help if there were a different atmosphere. But I'm in no qualified position to be an advocate beyond YT comments! 😂 Anyway, thank you for humouring my waffle. And thank you for not perpetuating harmful stereotypes. Good luck w/ the difficult ones, tho - keep your sanity about you!

[@DionLuvsMakeup]

@ZijnShayatanica No, you didn't come off as accusatory at all. It is a delicate balance. Mental health can be delicate all by itself even without any diagnosis. I have had some colleagues who see a diagnosis versus the person, and I find that sad. Everyone deserves to be heard, and their willingness to change or not change becomes evident as therapy goes on. One of my pet peeves is when a person believes they are their diagnosis (the same as people who blame their actions on their astrological sign). And, maybe that's an easy way out for them to not hold themselves accountable. Or maybe they feel that way due to bad therapy. I'm glad you found someone who listens to you. Our job is to listen, help, encourage, guide, and not disregard our patients/clients.

[@jayelizaa]

Real heroes wear makeup and are named Jen! love recaps like this, because I don’t have the ability to sit down and do the amazing work that you have done for us!! Thank you!!

[@MoonMagickMayhem]

Haha Can I be a hero too then? My name is Jen and I wear makeup... Though my "superpowers" feel like a curse often (except my kids are my world). I'm neurodivergent, an empath, and a mom of 3 (including 2 neurodivergent daughters). 😜💜💄🦸🏻‍♀️

[@MoonMagickMayhem]

But for real, I adore both of these Jens and their hearts and minds! 💜🥰✨️

[@grantmegan91]

​@@MoonMagickMayhem why are u commenting about you and your kids diagnosis on a comment complimenting jen? It's very strange

[@MetamorphosisRox]

Bless you child, for going through all that gaslighting message several times to create this here video. It was posted 7 years ago and I have a feeling I will leave several comments because I'm commenting as I'm watching. You look beautiful.

[@Julie-wm8gg]

Wow! JH is just a grifter from the start. I feel badly for Marlena and Jen. I hope now that the truth is out, their brands will seriously take off. And Karma in real time, Morphe is bankrupt and JH is closing her other businesses.

[@tessaerlandson289]

Absolutely a grifter mentality. I have people like this in my own life. The way they were raised, they feel like no one has their back. They're worried about themselves first and foremost always. Very greedy and a sad way to live.

[@kolourgen1762]

It’s 3pm tea time here in South Africa! Perfect timing for steaming hot tea ☕️!

[@montananerd8244]

7 am in Montana, USA, and I am sooooo freaking American today, I'm drinking an infamous sugary soda (mountain dew lol)...

[@sharonstarr841]

Thank you for all this work. I think the only reason she did any of this is because it was her last chance to keep her "brand" around for 2 more seconds. She thought if she apologized people would buy something, anything, one last time. Absolutely ridiculous behavior for a grown woman.

[@kyliedunmire7280]

You honestly deserve an award for this investigative journalism. This is so well done; you should be extremely proud.

[@stereotypea123]

Jen is eating good this month with all this Jaclyn drama lol

[@nikkik4603]

Ugh my head is spinning from this mess. Thank you for your hard work Jen to sort this out for us.

[@Katy-ys6rn]

This absolutely helped me decipher that long a$$ post. Almost like she was trying to bury the lies and truths in word salad. Odd that she's feeling the urge to repair old friendships, aka connections in Jaq's world, now that Morphe has gone under huh

[@cupiedoll9759]

Yeah, ironic huh? And I really don’t see any new brands wanting to ever work with her either. She’s a huge liability.

[@mybdayis420]

I find it odd that all these companies that Jaclyn collaborated with are now out of business. Including her own companies. But I guess in hindsight we can see why. She only cares about herself and does not care who she hurts along the way. It is so sad and sick.

[@theelectricdi]

Preach! Jaclyn is a black hole of failure and takes everything she touches to dirt.

[@Patriot1789]

Amazing that people can recognize this problem when it comes to businesses and cosmetics but many are perfectly obtuse when the same kind of “holdup” happens in politics. As Shakespeare said: What fools these mortals be.”

[@EllenB703]

I was thinking the same thing. 💯

[@LeightonRebecca]

What’s the common (problem) denominator…?… Jaclyn Hill.

[@Alberto-wu1mj]

Plus the companies she caused problems with like Koze and brush company.

[@AmeliaRosina]

I regret buying all of her collabs 😭 i was a big fan, but now im shocked at how naive i was to support everything she came out with, even though i was struggling to afford them all. Lesson learnt 👍 Great video Jen, so informative 👏 ❤

[@lisacolborne]

I was already disappointed in Jaclyn Hill but now I am just mad! Honestly, what the hell! Thank god Marlena and Jen were willing to share their stories. I do not know why this woman should ever get away with this crap. Jen, you are amazing to put this all together for us. I am so sick of this stuff with Jaclyn. I absolutely thought she was an amazing person, bought the Becca highlighter, loved it! I do not know how Jaclyn can look at herself in the mirror and think she is a good person when clearly she is not.

[@makeupsessed7851]

There's 12 sides to this story and we've only heard two.

[@eringannon2591]

can I just say… Jen goes literally above and BEYOND for this channel and her professionalism in her worth ethic is unmatched. Been a follower for probably 7+ years now and I’m always shocked at how much research she puts into these videos

[@jaxb.8351]

On some level Linda from Morphe seems like she also needs to be held accountable for the part she played in some of this. I can only think the only reason JH never threw Linda under the bus is bc she has NDA’s with anyone she’s every worked with. Bc they’re obviously a shady company and even people like J ⭐️ who have loose lips, have never said anything about her or even Morphe as a whole. In the long run a huge part of the hit Jaclyn took in the lipstick scandal was actually Morphe’s fault now that we know Jaclyn doesn’t even own the brand.

[@maraedelacruz]

Jen, your attention to detail and how you organized the entire story is just on another level. Thank you for this video.

[@lenusniq_9746]

I find it intriguing that Jen G in her response mentioned BECCA as one of the injured parties. It kinda confirms my long held suspicion that JH also seriously screwed them. I also find it funny that as far as I know all brands that JH ever collaborated with either closed or are in bankruptcy. Save for Gerard cosmetics and I know that this brand used to have a really shady reputation thanks to JH.

[@fswindell]

She totally screwed them! She cost them a lot of $ and played the blame game when her palette launch went wrong. Kevin James Bennett called it from the start 😅

[@aprilrich807]

Thank you SO MUCH for this, Jen. Now I’m 100% not going to feel any remorse about tossing that Becca/Jaclyn Champagne highlighter. It’s just a personal morality thing.

[@Petunia1738]

Tossing makeup after your purchase it is just wasteful anyway. You already voted with your dollar at the time.

[@tigermeow99]

The makeup is not easily compostable nor recyclable, so please don't waste. You can always repot into non Jacklyn packaging.

[@lezlimuse]

I bought this highlighter when Becca was going out of business. I have used it maybe once or twice. I didn’t buy it because it was “ made by Jaclyn”, I bought it because I thought it was pretty and I really like Becca’s highlighters. (I have a couple of them and a blush). I did buy the Jaclyn vault for my daughter because, back in the day, my daughter liked her. I tried watchingJaclyn a few times but never could get into her or her videos. The thing is, throw it away if you want, but the money was already spent. Use it because it is Becca not Jaclyn. I personally will not buy anything from Morphe, anything else from Jaclyn, and nothing from James Charles.

[@aprilrich807]

@@lezlimuse we could be besties. Yes - part of me very much agrees about money already spent, and I miss Becca very much. And I know that my stance on this is unpopular. But I have to live with myself. 1,000% agree about the brands you’ll not be bothered with any longer.

[@aprilrich807]

@@Petunia1738 scraped out the product and reused the container for repotting other similar products that were getting close to zero.

[@AuroraR]

I wonder if she treats her real life friendships the same way she does her online friendships.

[@EGKitty]

People self involved to that degree generally cannot maintain friendships. They don't know how to be a true friend, no do I think they desire to be. They may have friends who genuinely love them and loyally stick by them even for years, but eventually it's realized how one-sided the "friendship" really is. It always eventually crumbles. Very sad in my opinion

[@juditha.jean-francois3670]

Best person to ask that is her former BFF Jackie. She just disappeared after being surgically attached to JH for years. It would be an interesting interview.

[@GeoKuromi]

I dont think she has real life friendships

[@TheMosesFile]

I love how she pretends like she didn’t have FULL CONTROL. She said it herself. “I was surrounded by yes men”. She not only would have been able to avoid these mistakes, she personally is responsible for them. No one else to blame anymore. Unless she’s audacious enough to blame her own mother. It wouldn’t surprise me.

[@Fiercely_Nic]

I haven't even watched it yet, in on the car right now, but I had hoped that you would do a video, so super thanks in advance! I saw Tea Spill's video yesterday, she basically just laid out the whole convo on the subreddit. Jen's and Marlena's responses were epic, and I hope we'll all stop feeding the troll now and leave her play in her Jaclyn-sized fun house full of mirrors in which she only sees herself.

[@christinegraham2579]

Another fine video showing us all what happens when “You F*ck Around And Find Out”! Thank you for showing us all that Ms Hill is as toxic and caustic as she’s been showing herself to be! But, ‘twould appear that she lives, breathes & eats the Drama she causes to sustain her pitiful life. From this conclusion (at least for the time being) Jacklyn will have to think of something else to become the center of attention again.

[@jackandlill]

The point is Jaclyn shouldn't have been in a Pickle w/Becca & Morphe because she had already made this deal with Marlena - who was her friend who went out of her way & held her hand in assisting Jaclyn with labs etc which has a lot of value! We all know Marlena F'd up by not making sure that contract got signed. Still Jaclyn should have told Becca & Morphe a time line for her availability that included getting the MUG palette out - that would have shown integrity - but clearly they offered her more money & those are the deals she chose over MUG! I understand business is business - but at the end of the day I know my head would not have rested easily on my pillow knowing I screwed my friend over in a Huge Way!! The real misunderstanding was thinking Jaclyn ever considered Marlena a friend!

[@glassysurface]

Her last gasps of trying to not crash and burn are highly entertaining

[@liltiggergirl316]

I wonder if she sent Becca an email asking for money because they still sold the highlights? Becca come on talk to us! We the people want to know

[@christinagrace7455]

Or Smashbox

[@misshell2223]

I kno right! Lol. But imo Estee Lauder isn't taking the time to say shit about JH; the info would def have to come from Becca herself

[@beshiiisimasi1991]

a few years later they took her face off the highlighter and i wondered why and was just sold as champaign pop

[@liltiggergirl316]

@@beshiiisimasi1991 because the contract was up. Why would they still pay her if they aren’t obligated to

[@darkydoom]

The way she trashes and blames businesses is astounding. How she tried to squash Jen Gérard is so so gross, and that snapchat of Becca. She's a monster

[@may041]

You know it’s bad when you didn’t need to say another word after that opening stare and zoom in. 🤣🥴🙃

[@JessicaHauserman]

The more I think about all this.... The more I'm realizing Jaclyn is going to need to throw Morphe under the bus in order to save herself. And I don't think she will ever do that. That's also why she hasn't been fully transparent about addressing everything because I think Morphe is keeping her from doing it. I want to see Shane do a series on how Morphe single-handedly blew up KZbin influencers, and also totally destroyed the industry. LOL!!!! Oh gosh I need to stop. But seriously, SOMEONE's gotta do it. We're still in the thick of things, but you know that's going to be coming in the future!!

[@sabreen45]

Jen you put your FOOT into this! Man, it is so much worse when you see all the evidence together.

[@AwesomeAnnieAA]

Wow! Thank you Jen for always giving us the best, most accurate information in one place. It just amazes me how Jaclyn can live with herself after doing this over and over to people. She really is out only for number one, herself. It still amazes me after so much information has come out that people still support her. Never an apology or any accountability for her actions.

[@mnwild1984girl]

Ah, the road that wasn't paved with good intentions but went past the Good Intentions billboards. Lol!! These stories and sadly those involved are Must Read items if only to help us all NOT DO THAT and Pay closer attention to our associations, friendships, Deal$, and views of ourselves. If only people were satisfied with being noticed by a small handful of friends and family and making enough money to pay their bills, travel, and retire on. 🤦🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️ Thank you Jen for going through this mud bog, lol!! It was entertaining. ~Jen~

[@kelley5816]

I appreciate your disclosures, your hard work, and your transparency with correcting information that any human could understandably get wrong when following this entire situation. What a fantastic and fair video, Jen! Thank you!

[@itsyissel]

Jen, OMG when I saw what she'd done I thought, "OMG Jen's gonna have to drop everything for this!"

[@rebeccabee6615]

OMG, Jen! That opening look was priceless! Can’t wait to get into this now! Happy holiday weekend everyone!

[@janna8147]

I'm exhausted, I can't even imagine how Jen and Marlena feel! I appreciate the timeline and hard work that went into this.

[@fiercest_calm]

Jen, I hope Marlena and Jen know what a good friend you are!! You have really worked hard and gone out of your way to prove their innocents in the matter and that they are good people by supporting their storylines. As far as JH, I have so many narcissist in my past life and it's taken me awhile to learn how they operate. Marlena just didn't know... most of us don't the first few times we come in contact with a narcissist. Once you call one out on their $h¡t that's when their the most dangerous. They will do a smear campaign to get you back. One day it all comes out, hopefully. Jen, good job shedding light on the situation!!

[@EllenB703]

Excellent job, Jen! I’m so glad you explained what happened. I was lost trying to figure it all out. Thanks for all your research & hard work! Ellen B. from Balto Cnty, MD

[@kristyrussell5493]

Thank you Jen! I appreciate how much time and care you put into your videos.

[@SusieColmenero]

Excellent time line break down Jen! Your hard work is shining through this video. Thank you ❤

[@nina2222]

Yes it is ! 🙌

[@cmclovesnkotb]

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! I was so confused by Jaclyn's email. As usual, it's just smoke and mirrors and gaslighting with her. She will never, ever own up to any of this. She has no self awareness and is a liar and narcissist. Thank you for all your research and hard work breaking this all down for us! ❤ you Jen!

[@TheJBite]

Omg...yes her statement is super skatered... i thought it was just me. I can't wait for your detail oriented coverage.

[@Mooseinclusivity]

It’s on Marlena for not having her sign a contract prior to ordering all the products. Who would do that

[@zenmaster9195]

Oof...what a mess. I stopped listening and caring about JH years ago. Probably after the Becca launch. Never got any of it, but something about her during that time was rubbing me the wrong way. She eventually just fell off my radar. I guess for good reason 😆. To be quite honest, I'm listening to and following this story purely for information and I suppose entertainment as it doesn't effect my life whatsoever. Im glad Marlena and Jen are doing so much better! Thanks Jen for all the information! You rock as well! 🤘

[@hairguy98]

JH bringing 'receipts' give me the same energy as kellyanne conway on fox waiving a ream of blank paper with proof. Thank you for your time and analysis!

[@marmalitemayo2978]

Just finished watching the last Whats up in makeup so it's a funny and pleasant surprise to watch the sequel immediately 😂 Jaclyn is unstoppable in drama lol

[@aracelyreyes4920]

I'm half way thru, & huge props to u Jen for all of your work & research on this. I'm just here to say, every time Jaclyn says she "Work hard" I cringe cuz we KNOW that is a lie. She is not a beautician. She's not a chemist. Remember, the white palette from Morphe is most likely made by Crowne. It's still on their site. So, when Jaclyn claims she had to re-do 9 shades, nope, I don't believe it!!! This was all about greed. She mentions formulating whenever she needs an excuse for a delay or a product going horribly wrong, which is A LOT. & when ppl who do know what they're doing, they tear her excuses apart cuz she knows ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. All she's ever done is pointed to colours and items to slap her name on, & rake in the dough.

[@lindsroy]

The level of dedication and the amount of detail you included in this - FANTASTIC. The whole situation is a mess and can only imagine the headache it was to put this all together!

[@draydray96]

This was so well put together & organized! Thank you for breaking it down ❤

[@nina2222]

Yes I agree

[@jackandlill]

It's very clear that the way Jaclyn couches it in the Reddit thread was that she only wanted her likeness & name removed & with that done there was no need for a "buyout". However, in the actual original email/text whatever - she clearly states that she no longer wants the products to be sold at all!! Unless, Jen Girard pays her $250k to which Jaclyn had ZERO claim as she did NOT create the shades - she chose them & Girard put her name on them but Girard Created them 2 very different things!! So, typical Jaclyn we can all see that the sky is blue but she's still trying to tell us it's green!! She is Unreal!!

[@mjfuller9726]

Part of me wanted to believe Jaclyn was young and naive in business, and put her trust in the wrong people. But then she still doubles down with these excuses and non-apologies years later. If she had simply said to any of these creators I made mistakes and I’m sorry, I might believe her

[@ShanYalesTale]

Jen, this was amazing ans so much work!! I would love to see an even deeper dive into Jaclyn Hill. It seems she was screwing people over even BEFORE she met Linda from Morphe, but that things escalated after that friendship developed. Linda showed JH the $$$ and that's all Jacylyn needed to sell her soul. She has hurt and stomped on so many people that I really think it is coming to bite her back now. IMO, JH is not as creative and talented as people give her credit for. She always says "her formula" and "her shades" as if she was actually in the lab mixing and working on the makeup her name is attached to. If she knew anything about formulas, then she wouldn't have had lipstickgate.

[@kaley5730]

Here for it!!!! Thank you for sacrificing your brain power to organize this so we didn’t have to ❤️

[@Thalassa69]

I was waiting patiently for your video Jen. I even made popcorn to watch it.

[@debbieotoole1072]

Wow Jen, you really worked hard on this. Thank you i appreciate you and your team. I don't think Jaclyn will ever stop lying, the hole is to deep.

[@aravista222]

The boyfriend walked in while I was watching this and he listened for a bit and then said, honestly the serial killer vids you watch seem way less crazy. LOOOOOL wow. The truth coming out. Thank you for all your work Jen!!

[@ginetteco]

Jen, great coverage on this and going through all the details. I totally forgot about that terrible becca palette I was so upset about that and remember returning it. It was the last thing I ever bought with Jaclyn’s name on it

[@kaitlynnmcewen1666]

i’ve been waiting for your reaction for this! i find jaclyn trying to redeem herself by saying she didn’t know but i will never want to collab with her everything has to do with money to her

[@khusi24]

Nobody should be given so much power that they can destroy so many people’s businesses. I blame the influencer trend that was so prevalent a few years ago, which has fortunately/ hopefully gotten a lot better now

[@jcs137]

Best overview ever and details no one has put together as it takes a lot of time. Well done and researched!

[@MToThe3rdPower]

Thank you Jen for all the hard work you did on this video.

[@kpeugh2011]

Lawnerd here. I love Jen Gerard and her brand. And I love her more for seeing that she has the lawnerd mug. Also, weren’t those lipsticks formulated BEFORE Jaclyn’s face was added to them and she promoted them. Those were Jen’s products from the get go. Why would she pay out ANY money to keep the names the SAME!? That’s ridiculous.