This is Colorism

[@melodywhite]

"Kids in middle school are f*ing monsters" always true.

[@peacebeyondpassion2]

I know. I loved when he said that. It was like "Lord of the Flies" in my middle school lol!

[@saracole7623]

As a girl in middle school, I can 100% vouch for this. Sup, fellow monsters.

[@ihavenoenergyforyall]

High school too

[@d14551]

I taught middle schoolers for 30 years. Yes, they could be very hard on each other, but they could also be kind and fun. I have more good memories of them than bad memories.

[@JeromeProductions]

Yep

[@Majoofi]

The thing that's been bugging me lately is how in so many movies and TV shows is how the female partner of a black man always has lighter skin than him.

[@justanotheryoutubecommente2]

You often notice that the girlfriend or wife is usually the more attractive of the two, at least by society's standards. Especially in sit coms

[@tigerstripedsinger]

I feel like with a lot of new movies that try to be diverse they only let each character have one disadvantaged characteristic too. So the women are all white, if a man is gay, he is white and all the racial minorities are men. Which just further perpetuatates the veritable invisibility black women have in the media

[@AdrianCelsiusTepes]

Or even when a black woman and man are supposed to be sister and brother. "The greatest showman" does that with the Wheeler siblings for example. I’m not black myself and don’t know much about colorism, but I was like "hold on a minute, why does she have significantly lighter skin than him?" The fact that Zendaya plays Zack Efrons love interest miiight have something to do with it.

[@aleka..]

@@justanotheryoutubecommente2 yeah, especially re: weight (fat phobia). So not-slim men have a culturally acceptable /skinny/ wife.

[@lyricbot8513]

@@tigerstripedsinger or the only black woman in the movie is meant to be "the funny one" or "the fat one"

[@kubo407]

When I try to make a dark skinned character in a videogame and it's like this is a white person with paint.

[@Mabasei]

monster hunter world did it pretty well i made a dark skinned black woman and it looks pretty true to life. idk if you like that game though.

[@pythonjava6228]

So true. They usually look so weird and akward

[@mennehgambia1962]

holy shit u right, u just made me realize that!!! oh god

[@lostuser1094]

kubo so thought The Division 2 did a decent job of modelling accurate skin tones and facial structures of PoC.

[@CommunistLlama]

The divinity original sin character creator is awful for this. The darkest tones are completely unnatural and the features are still structurally European. Does have decent hairstyle options though.

[@pie1990]

I am dark skinned person from India and oh boy the toxicity here is unbearable

[@niellauraiyana6417]

Oh sweetie, agreed, took me 15 years to just buy a eyeliner cause got told it would make me look darker thus uglier? It honestly hurts but finally bought it!

[@anncyl3348]

Ik

[@xihall2424]

You’re beautiful

[@niellauraiyana6417]

@@pie1990 aw sweetie I used to apply turmeric and yogurt to my face, I get you but just know, there's a lot of people of this sort and you don't have to listen to no blabbering cat

[@aditi3586]

i'm dark skinned and strangely none of this colorism stuff happened to me lol, if you're talking about stupid commercials, then they don't effect personally lol but in real life, never faced any such rude behavior from fair skinned folks around

[@shayanali9141]

Its weird this conversation isn’t really talked about but asian cultures,like India and Bangladesh,are extremely colour biased. I’m pretty dark in comparison to like most middle class people in Bangladesh. I got harassed continuously for like 4 years because of my skin colour,I’ve been called the n-word and even my family asked me to use skin lightening products. My aunt is pretty good example of how colourism is prevelant in Asia. So when she was trying to find a spouse for her son,she legit said this-“That girl is too dark skinned”. This kind of behaviour is prevalent worldwide.

[@justanotheryoutubecommente2]

So sorry that happened to you. I think the strangest part of colorism is how arbitrary it is. It is so easy to find youthful, healthy-looking, objectively beautiful dark skinned people out there. The only reason this characteristic is looked down upon is because enough people say so

[@DonWoschto]

That's because humans still suck a lot and need to be fixed fast - or abandoned, if you're more of a pessimist like myself.

[@sudevsen]

I'm Bengali from across the border and its the same here as well. Especially with he upper class Brahmins with fair skin are privileged over darker skinned people of lower castes.

[@yunglynda1326]

The same story in India

[@shidnfart]

you can even see that on a larger scale in how Southeast Asia is treated in general vs East Asia.

[@jewellx80]

I like the conclusion, “attack the system not the individuals”

[@MsChitterchat]

Juli Jalaludin But what are you actually attacking? And what is the solution?

[@tonystank1214]

MsChitterchat attacking the people that perpetuate it: rappers, directors, people who are colorist. The solution is to keep on calling it out and educating people about it. When we finally acknowledge it and discuss how to get rid of it. That’s the solution

[@arip172]

Each of us should introspect themselves first and then maybe "attack" others.

[@jalencole7332]

Tony Stank Soooo.... individuals? also you didn't come up with a solution, you said we'll talk about how to get rid of it, that's not a solution.

[@tonystank1214]

Jalen Cole yeah?

[@melanieblackwell1901]

Whenever I bring up colorism as an issue, nobody listens to me. But when a lighter skin women brings up the issue, they flock to her. That alone is prime example of it. I’m offended but it’s to be expected.

[@stevenliang3213]

I feel sympathy to all dark skin people out there. Colorism is pervasive in the Asian and Latino communities. Basically, if you’re dark, you are treated as lower class, unattractive, and unfit for educated work Despite the negative, we are making progress in this department

[@free22]

Vaginal Warfare That is just the thing. People see bitterness where none exists when they interact with dark skinned black women in the US. The US has the angry black woman stereotype. In other places in the Caribbean, the stereotype is that dark skinned women are more sexual. And there, people see sexual interest where none exists. We all see what we want to see. It’s called a confirmation bias.

[@findyourpixiedusteveryday6344]

@@free22 when do we start seeing the soul and the content of people first and make that count first...? in lak'ech

[@free22]

Find Your Pixie Dust Every Day When indeed.

[@AudioGAWD]

"You're just mad lolz" That's usually the retort when someone mentions it, who just happens to fall in that demographic.

[@maureenwambui1182]

Colorism is everywhere,even in Africa. I'm Kenyan,I know.

[@khalidcabrero6204]

I don't know Kenya, I grew up further south. But I don't think it is as bad in Africa. At least nowhere near as bad as I found it after moving to America.

[@nosquadkid1568]

Hello fellow Kenyan

[@gloriaklein4706]

I asked my male friend his ideal woman,,, and he said he wants. " a mixed woman" 🥴 coz the way they were portrayed in the Media when growing up. he's Kenyan btw

[@harrytimmy5070]

This is so true. I'm a light skin Kenyan girl and lemme tell you it's bad. I see the way people treat me to my darker skin cousin and it's quite sad. Once we were at a public place and this guy blatantly said I was pretty and ignored my cousin as if she wasn't even there. This is just one example. I have about a 100 stories like this

[@maureenwambui1182]

@@harrytimmy5070in primary school i was told that my mom was prettier than me because she's light skin and I'm dark.

[@crazydolce1]

"YOU CAN BE PRIVILEGED AND DISADVANTAGED AT THE SAME TIME... A LOT OF Y'ALL ACT LIKE Y'ALL DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT." - T1J Legit the best thing I've heard all year, never let someone devalue your struggle by saying 'someone else has it worse'.

[@Normie_Normalson]

"our rhetoric has no definitions or standards" just say "white man bad" and save us all some time.

[@Tan87ful]

Exactly

[@ldragon8480]

It's something I try to explain to people when I can.

[@holyexperience1976]

I love how you ended your statement about not to feel devalues because someone has it it worse. A legitimate problem is a legitimate problem. The I have it worse than you, to me, is too often a cop out and excuse not to feel empathy and compassion for someone. And many who say, I have it worse than you, do not take enough time to think of those who have it worse than them. It is perfectly fine to feel bummed and feel struggled about a race problem because your race and ethnicity is something you cannot control, you cannot choose it before you were conceived. Being Black is not the same thing as being a serial killer. Satan is the Master of All Controversies. He will stir things up as much as he can to hurt people.....

[@hhiippiittyy]

I'm a ginger. Disadvantaged and privileged at the same time. Lols.

[@gva9947]

Colorism is so rampant in India. Our media actively pushes the message that having fair skin is a major requisite for attractiveness. At 21, I've finally managed to deprogram myself from this cultural setting. Now I find dark skinned people just as, if not more attractive than light skinned people.

[@realgena1]

GV A Good for you for reprogramming your mindset! Not an easy task!

[@oof-rr5nf]

Congratulations on ridding yourself of prejudice! And dark skinned Indians/South Asians are hot as hell.

[@mwakampundu239]

It's true.. I'm not from India but Zee world is televised where I live.. So most of us have the idea that all Indians are very fair in complexion.. So I was surprised when I watched a vlog in KZbin and noticed they're a number of people on the darker end of the spectrum and I felt very bad because not allowing darker people to have an equal chance in the spotlight is like saying we're not good enough to represent what our countries stand for.

[@penguin_drive]

I'm European but my fiance is Indian and witnessing this in India was so fucked up. There's this status that it gives my partner, had I been black it would have been a point of scorn from family and his peers instead. Even well-educated people fall for buying skin lightening products as well. I'm so happy for you for looking past that sort of mentality.

[@itsmebeter3538]

yeah the caste system is fucked

[@miniq1142]

"those with power, no matter how little, are regularly driven to maintain that power whether consciously or not" is really well put

[@FirstnameLastname-es1ko]

motto tronic I feel like that applies in a lot of places, and to a lot of people, definitely a phrase to remember.

[@heaven_sent869]

As soon as I say this he said it

[@debbystardust]

I agree with most of the things said in the video, but seeing the world solely through a sort of Marxist lens of a power struggle goes a bit too far. Personally, I don’t mind remaining in the shadows with enough money to live comfortably because I know that were I given power, I would make a mess of things.

[@skandarao1903]

From what little I've read, there was a lot of history pre-Civil War of richer land owners leaning into the propagation of racist ideas both to justify slavery and to create a rift between poor whites and poor (free) blacks, resting on the idea that even if the poor whites owned little to nothing, at least they weren't at the bottom of the social hierarchy.

[@theforgottenfernandes8766]

While true - it sounds automatic and out of our control. Why worry about natural phenomena. They will always happen and keep on happening

[@icatyet3647]

My boyfriend is half black, half Japanese with very dark skin and a white-sounding name. We live in the south... When he gets called for interviews they usually have him sit and wait. After about an hour or so, someone mentions how the guy they were waiting for it really late. He gets to say “Actually, I’m right here...” It sucks. Especially since he usually gets there early.

[@willaroberts134]

this is funny. he should just introduce himself immediately and excessively. From experience, it expedites things. lol

[@icatyet3647]

@@willaroberts134 lol I told him something similar. His response was “....yeah I guess I should’ve.” Silly. Love him to bits ☺️

[@Dukedennismyman]

I’m black a Japanese to but I’m more on the darker side like a pecan 😂

[@icatyet3647]

@@Dukedennismyman 😂 He has dark skin, too! And he decided to have dreads

[@claire3614]

I genuinely don't understand why or how can people associate names with the color of your skin. For fucks sake, is 2021, there's people out there naming their child's Kaleshi 🤦‍♀️ Edit: I'll rephrase it for the slowbrainers -> I don't understand why people *ASUME* you *MUST* by certain race or ethnicity to be named certain ways

[@brandijones461]

Chocolate girl here. Great video. Colorism has plagued the African diaspora since, basically forever and it seems no one wants to talk about it. So when I see any acknowledgement from the African American community, especially a dark skint male it makes me feel like it's a step in the right direction. Oh, and those video game CAC options where tragic back in the day.

[@aleka..]

you might like For Harriet yt channel, if you don't know her already.

[@rsimon409]

brandi jones dark skinned black guy checking in. Good luck. I get down sometimes b/c of it... keep that head up and confidence high... you’ll steamroll all the subtle “perceptions” of others and end up where you want / need

[@trayog2459]

You would love Chrissie’s channel

[@lemonadelemon1960]

“You can be privileged and disadvantaged at the same time.” One more time, I don’t think they heard you in the back.

[@fake-inafakerson8087]

Nobody should use their own disadvantages as an excuse to not care about other's. Solidarity with others who are oppressed in different ways is key to liberating all of us.

[@sarah-qz5oh]

i didn’t know till i was probably about 14 that when white women said they wanted a man “tall dark and handsome” they didn’t want a black man but instead a white man with darker features

[@IzzOfoSho]

Same here!

[@logan2219]

I thought they meant with dark hair or a "dangerous" look

[@Hisxzeh]

Same, dude

[@stevenliang3213]

Dark as in tanned Historically, The phrase was used by white people to describe other white men who didn’t fit the stereotypical blond hair and blue eyes. It doesn’t mean black people

[@brookelauerman3290]

wait what

[@krymore]

Cries silently in dark skinned Asian

[@aishc9950]

Everyone is beautiful and Healthy skin is important more than lighter

[@grandiose5720]

literally my dad is thai-korean and my mom is korean and I lowkey always felt like the odd one out before I moved to America😭

[@aishc9950]

@@grandiose5720 That's so cool 😂 Hope you are doing great in USA.

[@grandiose5720]

@@aishc9950 I could do 100x times without school but I love it lmao

[@shavonnelynch6508]

cries in blasian who is on the lighter end of black people but on the darker end of asian ppl so .~.

[@Sara-vn2kz]

I'm a light-skinned Arab woman, and it always makes my skin crawl when people say I'm pretty BECAUSE OF my white skin. It inherently implies that my darker-skinned family are flawed because they look less European than I do. I love my skin, and I love their's too. But when I'm complimented on being white, I love my skin less because it's being used to undervalue their's.

[@grapeicies]

Same as a light-skinned Dominican. Don't use me to put down Black Dominicans. We're just as beautiful as each other.

[@Hypertoniclemon]

Yo, if only I had a euro for every time a dark-skinned man told me he thought I was beautiful because I’m light-skinned. To me it’s the same as a white man liking me for being “exotic”. It’s bull & objectification

[@maroccomar2334]

Thats sad thou got that vibe from some moroccans too

[@samstarba4569]

And funnily enough, here in north people would prefer to get a darker skin. It took me around 20 years to accept my paleness and see beauty in it.

[@limiabean]

Dark skinned Arab here. I grew up hearing I would be prettier if I were lighter.

[@darylifillifill1677]

As a Black Man that loves Black Superheroes I Noticed every time they create a Black Female Superhero it doesn't take long to lighten them up like Storm or Vixen

[@tyronechillifoot5573]

True

[@miguelmarquez4192]

I see that too! Not to pick on beyonce but she started out black, her thighs are beautiful and stayed dark but dont match her light face! The industry understands we see all this right? How strange that the most beautiful people still have people telling them which way is up. I feel bad like im a racist for seeing it and saying dont do that, but really in the end its not my issue not my place to correct someone.

[@TimdeVisser86]

Fingers crossed for Shuri, Okoye and Nakia. On the plus side, Lashana Lynch is now 007.

[@darylifillifill1677]

@@TimdeVisser86 I believe they need to give Lashana Lynch her own number

[@TimdeVisser86]

@@darylifillifill1677 Wouldn't that just make her part of the rank and file of MI6? I'd say that giving her the iconic code name is a sign that the series is moving on. Something they couldn't do if she'd been given a new code name. She'd never shake the stigma of not being the 'real' successor.

[@LimeyLassen]

Don't forget that "sleep with" and "marriage material" are two different kinds of attractiveness. That graph could use some more squares.

[@E_MZ_]

So true. I’m a “brown skinned” black woman and fairly attractive. I have a lot of men that want to sleep with me, but no one ever wants to date me seriously. And I don’t present myself in “slutty” way. It’s also interesting the amount of men who I was involved with but wouldn’t commit to me, but as soon as fair or mixed girl came along, they LOCKED that shit DOWN. All of that to say, I’m done. Learned my lesson.

[@salomeguzman8611]

E M Sometimes it's best to date out. Find your audience girl + good luck ❤️

[@E_MZ_]

Salomé Guzman yes, I’ve had to learn that the hard way. And sometimes dating out extends to non Americans...but thank you, love :)

[@eev14]

@@E_MZ_ That's really fucked up, i wonder if it was subconscious thing or if they were aware that they're discriminating when it comes to romantic partners. What do you think?

[@TheSub2rainen]

E M I’m mixed and experience this also. Even when I was a teen, grown men basically approached me like I was NSA sex. I’m a person, dude! Even well-meaning friends have lectured me that a man I’m interested in is “a friend,” that I’m reading in, that these men couldn’t be interested in me (even though most of them married Mexican men, essentially outside their race and culture) and even though they have zero male friends, only their bf/husband for decades. I’m pretty sure there have been good guys who misread me, thinking I friend-zoned them or was manipulating them/playing games, due to my inexperience between being either hyper-sexualized or desexualized. It’s like most people can’t see me with any nuance.

[@wintersbabyy]

Being a dark skinned girl and having everybody including my parents and other family members (who are all light skinned) make fun of me as a child basically destroyed my self esteem.

[@MKE87]

My light-skinned mother-in-law tried that silliness with my daughter. So I kindly asked my amazing husband to educate her, otherwise she will never see her dark skinned granddaughters again. My daughters will not be indoctrinated with self-hate.

[@CareBlair222]

@@MKE87 I love people like you!!!!! Yesss.

[@ceecee4504]

So sorry to hear this happened to you. Sending hugs

[@maggiee639]

I’m a (white) makeup artist, and finding foundations and products for clients past “medium deep” is almost impossible. I pretty much always end up mixing foundations and have spent a good chunk of change on powders and primers that don’t look ashy. It’s legitimately crazy how far the arms of colorism reaches.

[@deepwaters7242]

Super prevalent in the tattoo community, even though the science behind pigments support darker shades now. It was really interesting to see how far we've come, and how far we still have to go.

[@SR-kz9un]

Fenty

[@mojococoa]

Try Juvia's Place

[@maggiee639]

Angel Giordano Fenty is OK. If you have dry skin it won’t won’t for you.

[@maggiee639]

jgo inv haven’t heard of this company, will definitely check it out!

[@s0apscrum782]

because of colorism and sexism mixing in disney sitcoms i used to watch as a little kid (like, REALLY little), 4-6 y/o me thought that all black women had lighter skin than black men. so, yikes on me AND disney.

[@-Radical.Ed-]

Disney was also an open antisemitic man, and portrayed people with big noses as ugly, greedy or evil.

[@MJ-gm7km]

Disney even brought that subliminal message into the live action Lion King movie. They made sure Napa was light and had lighter eyes and Simba was darker. It was so unnecessary and honestly, creepy.

[@janiyaa2178]

I thought i was the only one that thought that even though my mom is darkskin... like idk where my mind was at

[@badlittlewolf2606]

i never liked Tiana when i was growing up, all she wanted to do was work...I mean what Disney princess wants that, I grew up idolizing coquettish dolls as princesses which has its own problems but personally I only ever identified with Mulan ( a badass who fought in a war because I like martial arts) and Esmeralda. Esmeralda specifically because she was gorgeous, strong, independent, crafty and kind, not to mention dark enough that she actually looked like me, true she wasn't a princess but she was the best a lil mixed girl was gonna get (Jasmine was just...so not my type)

[@TheKatherina44]

@@badlittlewolf2606 no fucking way tiana was the only relatable princess given the fact that most people work 10 hours a day for crappy salary

[@BeausGirl7]

"you can be priveleged AND disadvantaged at the same time." PREACH

[@coatimundi69]

white gay people are still grasping that concept lmao

[@ghostlyfae8721]

@@coatimundi69 That's true ngl ( - w - ) took me way to long to understand that concept and I thought I was open minded ~yeesh~ I was really only being close-minded/biased and using sugar-coated words to appear as such now that I think about it (which makes me cringe and ashamed tbh). I've been trying to better myself now by listening to others without quick assumptions/judgements and to become more aware of people's emotions/behaviors as a way to understand why we may act the way we do. As well, that if my actions show any concern of bias (racism, transphobia, or any sorts of prejudice/discriminatory views), whether minor or extreme, I want to catch that and learn from my faults to improve on being a better individual. Sorry for the long read ( ~ w ~ ' ) It's a bad habit of mine; for short, I'm saying that I agree with you

[@moscanaveia]

@@coatimundi69 As a white gay man, I can attest to the veracity of that. But we also need to be aware not to diminish or invalidate someone's experience just because they come from a racial or gender privileged position. No excuse for gay men displaying sexist behaviour, no excuse for white gay people being racially prejudiced. Just to add some nuance I feel is also important

[@liteney]

"you can be priveleged AND disadvantaged at the same time." When you say this you mean white people only right? If you're 1% of the 1% an oil rich black man who rules a country in Africa, that means you're disadvantaged?'

[@liteney]

@@ghostlyfae8721 I've been trying to better myself now by listening to others without quick assumptions/judgements (against POC only, right, not all human beings just POC?) and to become more aware of people's emotions/behaviors (unless they're not POC than fuck'em, right?) as a way to understand why we may act the way we do. As well, that if my actions show any concern of bias (racism, (against POC only) transphobia, or any sorts of prejudice/discriminatory views (against POC only) sorry just want to be clear, there are white kids who think they have human rights and we have to make sure they know they don't right), whether minor or extreme, I want to catch that and learn from my faults to improve on being a better indi

[@VanessaNaomiR]

"Fortunately, i like how i look. I think i'm pretty sexy" gonna ask Santa for some of that confidence. Good on you!

[@bob-xb3nh]

When people insert like self compliments in a "i love me for myself way" it makes me so happy lol

[@eautifuleagle4776]

@B Smith Shut it E Smith

[@VioletWaves44]

The KZbin algorithm finally came through and recommended me a video of substance

[@AmaryllisTV]

Same amen! 🙏

[@NoahGarcia]

honestly, same ^

[@AyeYanna]

Same

[@Astoldbyginquita]

Laura ღ RIGHT!

[@NaddaMercenary]

Hell yeah

[@elonmusk921]

The weird thing is that, in America, the newest standard of beauty is no longer to be pale and clearly white but rather to have “watered down” black features. They want you to have plump lips, but not big ones. Curly hair, but not kinky. Tan skin, but not dark. They want white people who look like they’re mixed with somethin. That’s a huge thing that makes me wary of some of the super popular black women today.. Amandla and Zendaya are constantly praised for being strong beautiful black women, and they ARE black, but the thing is that they don’t have the “bad” black features, they only have the “good” ones. People need to find FULLY black people with noticeably African features beautiful, not just mixed black people who have the ideals. EDIT: I can’t believe people are still arguing over this, on god. For y’all to say that mixed black people aren’t black... I know half black half Latino people that look fully black, are they not black now? What about African Americans, most of which are at least 10% white, are they black? Or are they only allowed to claim to be mixed because you have this racist “only purebreds are really black uwu” idea??? What are y’all gonna do in like 50 years where most of the planet is mixed race and nobody is fully anything anymore? What ACTUALLY offends you about a woman such as Beyoncé claiming to be black when she is majority black? Do you deadass look at Beyoncé and say that she’s not black? How many tapeworms are in your brain bro????? EDIT 2 because y’all can’t stop being racist: I don’t care how much you hate mixed people and want to force them to adopt “mixed” or “biracial” as a race. I don’t care that you don’t want them to be able to embrace half of their DNA, or either half of it simply because you have this batshit insane idea that only Purebred Blacks are allowed to claim to be Black. I do think that you should consider why you think it makes sense for you, a presumably Black person, to discriminate and strip mixed Blacks of their racial and cultural identities as if Blacks haven’t had that done to them enough. Remember that the reason you speak English is because racists stripped your ancestors of their African languages. The reason you don’t know what subsaharan African country your ancestors are from is because racists made them forget. The reason you don’t have traditional clothing is because racists wouldn’t let your ancestors wear it. The reason so many African Americans are lighter than Blacks in Africa is because white men raped our great great great great great great grandmas. The children born from that racism were still Black, and if they didn’t identify as such it was purely for their own safety. You can continue trying to rationalize your desire to demonize biracial Blacks for simply calling themselves Black, but none of your seemingly endless excuses actually help your case. You just seem like a racist asshole. TDLR for the edits: If you’re half black + half something else, you are allowed to claim both races and your race doesn’t suddenly become “biracial” or “mixed”. Zendaya is black and white, she has two races. She is not just “mixed”. Calling her Black does not mean that she is only Black, it means that one of her races is Black; unless the question is more specific and you’re expected to give all the details, you don’t have to state Everything. It’s not lying by omission to just not answer a question that wasn’t even asked and truly didn’t even need to be answered

[@Majid12022]

It’s kind of the same with white people. They do have bad features too and most of the time they only show the ones with good features.

[@Girlintheewild]

Mila A that’s true and the only way brown and dark skinned women like myself are considered to be beautiful or stunning is if we have Eurocentric features such as a narrow, pointy nose, high cheekbones, etc. basically, you have to look like a baby doll.

[@Girlintheewild]

Mila A that’s true too! It’s not right all the way around!

[@yentilesimelane9513]

Mixed is not black it's just mix mixed period

[@elonmusk921]

Yentile Simelane wdym?

[@nothinmulch]

Honestly never understood why or how someone could look at deep skin tones and not find them beautiful. The way saturated, primary, and even neon colors can contrast with dark skin is absolutely gorgeous imo.

[@FirstnameLastname-es1ko]

Like I watched this music video recently where a black young woman played the main casting role, playing a goddess like form, and wowww I was actually stunned by her beauty, like absolutely stunned, I literally just thought wow. They way she played her role and everything, just wow. How could you not think dark skin is beautiful??

[@abbiiON]

I mean people are allowed to have their own preferences

[@clemfandango6897]

Agreed. super dark skin is so beautiful. Im friends with a lovely lady from Nigeria and she is an absolute GODDESSSSSS

[@zihaojamesguo2057]

I feel like it's just a taste thing people have. just like how people like different colors over others.

[@Odinsday]

I also think black skin looks really nice. I remember watching Rush Hour 1 and got to the part where Carter and Lee go to downtown LA into a bar and met the head of the establishment in the back. He was black and was wearing this neon red color suit and I remember thinking, "Wow, he looks really fucking cool." (This isn't a diss on white skin, I'm just giving my thoughts)

[@romxxii]

I'm Filipino and pretty brown, and I remember an ex girlfriend freaking out because I found her childhood photos, from when she would still play out in the sun. From the way she reacted, you'd think I discovered her secret Dorian Grey portrait or the doctor's invoice for the plastic surgery to remove her humpback. She seriously thought I'd dump her because she was darker as a kid than she was when we started dating. That's how terrible skin-whitening is marketed in the Philippines.

[@complainer406]

They tell WoC they're too dark, and need to lighten, and white women that they're too pale and need to tan. If they tell everyone that there's something wrong with them, they can sell everyone a product to fix it. They can never just let a woman get away with thinking the features she was born with are okay Edit: I was only commenting on sexism and how beauty standards are set up so that no woman can meet them. I was not trying to imply that a pale white woman faces the same discrimination as a dark skinned black woman. While all women face sexism, white women have the privilege of no racism layered on top of it.

[@chihirosen6996]

Exactly! And NONE of these products are safe. The skin lightener creams have small amounts of Mercury. A lot of women will overuse these creams in hopes of quicker results only to poison themselves for beauty standards. Same with white women and tanning. When I'm told I'm "too pale" I tell people "enjoy your skin cancer". I feel darker black women could say the same to the paler people who give them greif. There are pros and cons to all skin colors. The pro of dark skin is you are less likely to get skin cancer. The con is that it's harder for you to absorb vitamin D from the sun. The pro and con to pale skin is just the opposite. Sure you can absorb vitamin D easier but you also risk getting skin cancer. Melanin is natures sunblock for humans. As far as other pros and cons go it's strictly social. But the problem is that we always assume the grass is greener on the other side. People assume other races are never demonized. The truth is WE ARE ALL DEMONIZED based on our skin color. White=racist. Black=thug. But I think many people fall for that narrative because they listen to too much news and confuse reality with what's on t.v. Pretty sure if people got out more and met more people they wouldn't believe these sterotypes. It's almost as if the media produces bias AND confirmation bias. Edit: just saw the edit of "white women don't face racism". Wow. Really? You don't want people assuming things about your life but you go around assuming things about others lives? Have YOU ever been told to your face by a woman in financial aide that you couldn't get a grant because of your race? I have. Has anyone ever told you that you're a "devil"/ "demon" because "your race" is inheriently evil? Bet you haven't. But I have. Have YOU ever had someone tell you that all babies who have the same skin tone as you should be murdered out of fear that their children would be murdered of those said babies grew up? No you haven't. I have. Have you ever been accused of slavery and oppression because school cirriculum omitted facts about history? Well your comment pretty much says that you haven't. Imagine if the roles were reversed where history classes taught ONLY about black and Native American slave owners but never the white slave owners? Imagine they made white people out the same way they do black people. Would it be fair of white people to say that you,as a black person, are not only inheriently evil because of your melanin but that you also will never know racism? If you don't think that would be fair of me or anybody else to do and if you actually CAN relate to what I'm saying then guess what sis? We're in the same boat. It's just nobody bothered telling you that you are no better than me and I'm no better than you.

[@aurorasam05]

Hell yes you explained it perfectly

[@samb9027]

Not the same

[@complainer406]

@@chihirosen6996 I wouldn't go as far as saying the grass isn't greener on the white side. I was making a comment on sexism in our society, and how it makes women wrong/not enough no matter what they do/are. (E.g. SAHMs and working moms both being told they made the wrong choice) White women benefit from white privilege, but are still at the mercy of sexism. They get the shittiness of the beauty industry, but it's not wrapped up in a big racism sandwich the way that it is for black women, and other WOC. Like he says in the video, it's possible to be privileged and disadvantaged at the same time.

[@joannaw.5113]

Blame corporations who are teaching our small girls that they have to do something in order to be beautiful... dont put down another woman for her look, we should stand together. The World is enough cruel for us (and mindfucking)

[@kimifw58]

"You can be privileged and disadvantaged at the same time." THANK YOU!

[@Ignasimp]

Most people are privileged and disadvantaged at the same tine by very different reasons.

[@Truthseeker580]

How🤔...

[@Ignasimp]

@@Truthseeker580 someone can be white but gay, or black but straight, or be white and straight but very poor, of having an illness... I'm gay and still think I'm vastly priviledged compared to straight white guys who live in far more difficult conditions than me.

[@scottallen6227]

@@Ignasimp or be tall or short. Or good looking vs ugly.

[@lovelydae7455]

Can dark skin bw have pretty privilege? kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX-0hpJ-p7apiZo

[@DereBear]

You had me at “chocolate boi” This milk boi subscribed

[@issavirgo6079]

😭😭😭

[@littlebabe9317]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Normie_Normalson]

yikes

[@Frission_imaging]

chocy boi has left the chat

[@yeyisauro1197]

You had me at “read more”...

[@bendingbananas6540]

Ever since I've been in middle school, I have developed a fear of middle schoolers. Specifically middle school boys with edgy (aka racist, sexist, homophobic or really just offensive) humor.

[@moscanaveia]

I subscribe to that. But either their voice is so spread out that I feel surrounded by them at all times while online, or people of all ages really are acting as edgy teenagers.

[@justicicle9673]

My school was so edgy, and so I was I in middle school I was a top tier asshole

[@Alice-gr1kb]

i’m in a discord server about worldbuilding and recently we’ve been getting lots of kids with “edgy” worldbuilding (making their settings have eugenics and portraying it as good, for example) and it’s getting quite old

[@angelicadickson8666]

Wow y’all grew up in some really bad places those kind of kids were few and far between where in grew up in Georgia.

[@godhateseveryonewhodoesntr5977]

I actually like offensive humor. I'm not any of those things though and I'm not a middle schooler.

[@creativeusername6453]

Hair options in games bother me way more than it should. Basically character creation usually boils down to me saying "fuck it I'm going with anime hair"

[@EldritchVelvet]

The only videogame character maker that I've seen with a diverse black hair choice is the Nintendo miis

[@yltraviole]

I once spent an entire day searching for a black hair mod for the sims because I wanted to recreate one of my OC's in the game. I ended up getting a virus -.-

[@LiterallyScarecrow]

Or going bald

[@nuhaomar9542]

😂 oh my god dude

[@Nihilist_Porcupine]

For real. The sims 4, a game that's literally about simulating life, launched with maybe 3 or 4 unambiguously black skintones (out of probably like 15 or 20 or so), and very very few afro-textured or even curly hairs. They've gotten better over time, releasing more hairs and more skins. But still. Insane. And I get it, the polys are high if you try to create every curl or kink individually. Just try to get the general shape of a fro and slap a high res texture on it ffs.

[@TheArtisanGeek]

Sings: 'White plus papaya, my skin so white.' YIKES

[@almightyhotdoglady5383]

What a bunch of BULLSHIT 😂

[@Kamau.bakerr]

I jumped out of my bed when that came on. I had to hold my chest as the air left it. I can't believe that was a real ad lol

[@stevenliang3213]

Cozy Raps : You’ll find skin whitening ads super abundant in Asia. As T1J said, skin color equals class. No one wants to be associated with poverty and of the lower class. Dark-skinned people especially women will often be told by their friends and peers “OMG, you’re so dark. Stay out of the sun and use these skin whitening cream” Imagine being told this when you are only a toddler

[@sheranlanger247]

I've traveled in SE Asia a lot and the poorer, darker-skinned women all wear foundation or something that is WAY too pale for them. They have these grey faces and brown necks, looks weird but it's widespread.

[@quwandathornton]

I reached this comment and hear that playing I cracked up so hard.

[@NewMoon1972]

I can’t stand the colorism that persists in so many cultures. I have always heard “You’re pretty for a dark skinned girl/woman” as if my skin color was an automatic disadvantage in even being considered attractive. Really?! Same with my hair. I will inform an individual real quick. If they have the nerve to say something ridiculous and biased to me, then they’ve earned the opportunity to be schooled. Hopefully the next time they will consider the impact of their words and thoughts.

[@bjrnjensen7074]

I can`t believe that a person with an IQ higher than their own shoe size would say things like "you`re pretty for a dark skinned girl/woman".. I mean; REALLY?!!! it shows a complete lack of social intelligence!!

[@hhiippiittyy]

I'm a ginger guy. I've heard that quite a few times.

[@savary5050]

I agree about that being a poor choice of words. However a lot of white people sadly don’t find many black people attractive. I have not once been attracted to a black person irl, ONLY in pictures and movies. The sad thing is that I cannot do anything about this. I WANT black women to have a better chance at romance than they have but the fact is that I simply am not attracted to extremely dark skinned black girls

[@NewMoon1972]

@@savary5050 Your comment alone speaks from a position of assuming the opinion of white people is a validation in some way. Did you ever consider that many of those same women could be thinking the same thing about you? In fact the majority of people stick with their own race due to their shared culture, religious beliefs, general proximity and also socioeconomic reasons. I take issue with society leaning towards Eurocentric standards and measuring all others against it. These beliefs are particularly harmful when applied in the work force ,education, health care, etc. Colorism is racism’s counterpart and a by product of colonialism. Many don’t recognize all the subliminal messages that reinforce these ridiculous beliefs on a daily basis. Instead of feeling sad for dark skinned black women or wishing you were more attracted to them , do a self eval to see where you fall on the scale of bias and prejudice. Work on changing the way you see the world and most off all keep the judgments to yourself if you are a part of the problem. This would be much more productive than simply wishing better for dark skinned women. The very existence of so many variations in human appearance is amazing to me. There is too much beautiful diversity in our world to be limited to just one standard.

[@charliekahn4205]

@@NewMoon1972 There's nothing wrong with having a type. The only problem is when society itself has a type.

[@infectiousangel]

This is so fucked up that I just want to cry, that people get treated like they're less than, and in some cases poison themselves with mercury containing skin whitening creams, just because of the colour and tone of their skin. I have always been mesmerised by the beauty of different skin colours. I really wish that we all could start appreciating the beauty in ourselves and in all others. Below I share some of my experiences with colourism, I realise that it is something that's way less severe than the issues of colourism faces by people that are not white. In Sweden, if you're white, you're considered more attractive if you are tanned. And it goes way beyond attractiveness, even into the realms of being socially accepted. I've been picked on throughout most of my life for being too pale (due to my ginger complexion), and was outright bullied for it up until high school. We were four girls that used to walk to school together, I distinctly remember this time when one of them was very insistant on walking next to me. It later turned out that it was because she looked more tanned when her skin was in contrast with mine. At uni one of my friends said "you're not pale, you're see-through". When I was younger and wore more make up, there used to be no foundation in my skin tone, I'd always have to go with something that was too dark or too yellow. I finally found a foundation powder at the body shop in high school that was perfect with my skin, only to have it discontinued shortly after "because no one is that pale". Again, this is not to compare my challenges, with the racism and marginalisation that people of colour face. Just my own experience of colourism.

[@bellaancheta5407]

Woahh it’s so crazy how people struggle the same struggles in different ways. I’m Filipino and most of us are naturally dark, or tan. Many young girls in the Philippines are bullied for being tan, causing girls to attempt to bleach their color away. Crazy that many Filipinos probably lust for your paleness while you were bullied for not being tan enough. We should all just love each ourselves.

[@yeehaw6959]

@@samanthakrueger-gundy2998 the prejudice against red-heads actually comes from the treatment of Nordics and Celtics; you can do more research if you like (I'd suggest it) but when the British colonized both, they took them as slaves and since ginger hair was more common for both groups, it was seen as terrible and ugly.

[@charliekahn4205]

Have you seen the jokes they make about Irish women?

[@charliekahn4205]

@@samanthakrueger-gundy2998 I think the witchcraft association has something to do with Celtic ancestry, since Celtic-descended people (particularly Irish people) are more likely to have red hair, and early Christians saw the Celtic religion as a form of witchcraft.

[@rohanmuppa213]

yeah but at least in swedish media they show white people unlike other dark countries where they show white people

[@molashaye]

I had a conversation on this , black men don’t like talking about colorism because they are the ones perpetuating it 💁🏾‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

[@slothful2039]

Sometimes I just wish everyone was the same damn race so we wouldn't have issues like this. Sure there'd still be conflict after all just look st wars between people of rrrthe same ethnic background. But at LEAST something as idiotic as racism wouldn't exist. I'm mixed but I mostly look black, and I wish I could just blend in and "exist" sometimes. And I want to travel but I don't know how other cultures see people like me or if I'll even be treated with basic human decency. Of course this is just a sad thought I get from time to time, and I think things are somewhat getting better and thr culmination of races and cultures is cool. I just wish people could see everyone as an INDIVIDUAL and not judge someone based on stuff they can't control. Humans are bleh sometimes.

[@Ysl.phantom]

No, it's mostly black women. Most of them gravitate towards light skinned men. (I'm black by the way)

[@westindianmermaid4711]

Highly Defective untrue. Black men are more likely to date other races.

[@Mynamejack9]

@@westindianmermaid4711 lol. If so, then wtf keeps getting black women pregnant?

[@taebear]

Highly Defective LMFAO DO YOU KNOW WHY? Bc dark skin men gravitate to light or white women

[@teddypattinson5772]

I’m mixed from my dad’s side but I have light brown skin. I remember one time when I was 10, I went to my friends pool party, I didn’t wear sun screen at all and I spent so much time in the sun. So when I got picked up by my dad I was worried he’d get mad at me for not wearing sunscreen. But instead he yelled at me because my skin had gotten so dark. And I mean really REALLY dark. I was heartbroken by his words but I tried to play it off because I didn’t want to show how embarrassed I was. He made a huge scene in front of my friends mother. To this day I’m still a bit brain washed from the whole incident. I try to avoid being in the sun. I feel like a goddamn vampire.

[@tatucorreia]

Vitamin D darling and melanin are great resources.

[@johnhendricks8140]

You got that natural sun protection theres people that cant even stay out too long in low sun levels for any period time with out feeling skin irritation, bad ideas will take a blessing and make it into a curse.

[@kickitlikekirra]

I'm sorry for the traumatic sun/pool experience. I hope you can one day release that pain and see the beauty of your skin, in its entire spectrum of shades. Brown skin is blessed with melanin, which protects your skin and health; it's activated by the sunshine. I wish you peace and self-acceptance - and a tan! Jajaja.

[@blammela]

I’m so sorry this happened ❤️

[@teddypattinson5772]

Kirra Adams I’m doing much better with that, I’m so much darker now that I go out in the sun all the time but I love it!

[@AudioGAWD]

I get so irritated when I hear rappers use "light skin" exclusively to explain an attractive woman. So we're just going to keep this going huh? Okay

[@artemissunandmoon]

Neda They should be ashamed but wap is not about empowerment.

[@reeseewhitfield1734]

@@artemissunandmoon at all😭

[@raheemsmith2996]

Uh, have you seen people in my country?gangsters (other people but mainly gangsters)just 'bleach'their skin,I think it's just a trend or something,I am 14 so I don't really get why they're doing it, probably a trend,because my mother says that people didn't like brown skinned people but now everyone is doing it.Again, probably a trend.

[@imanimalaika7734]

Rappers portray the American ideals of sexual exploitation, objectification of women, extreme materialism, obsession with money, violence, and machismo. Let's keep it 💯! We see this in most of the artistic media that the USA imports. This is what music studio execs demand, regardless of what the artist wants to express.

[@apparaokandregula5772]

Exactly!! That's problematic and it's time that they are all called out on it.

[@preciousmoments2019]

Nothing is more beautiful than luputa’s smile.

[@venusbby]

Lupita*

[@kexia5630]

Facts!

[@maatatoure9602]

True😃

[@NotLikeUs17]

@@venusbby it’s comment section, not a spelling exam. Now run along child.🙄

[@venusbby]

@@NotLikeUs17 okay sherin, you've made your little brained point

[@Mexie]

I lived in Thailand for a bit on a research project and I could never find any sunscreen or even face or body wash or deodorant that wasn’t “skin whitening”. My friends were all very conscious of wanting to look lighter. It’s really sad how prevalent this is

[@FirstnameLastname-es1ko]

Mexie that’s horrible.

[@lapeaches8006]

Wow!

[@charamusicfan]

The preference for tan white people might be in part a reversal of the aristocratic associations with whiteness. Working people often spend their time indoors, while the leisure class has the time and money to tan and take care of their bodies. This, and the sexualisation of darker-skinned groups, such as latina's or black men/women, and thus also of white people with the same attributes.

[@JoneseyBanana]

Yeah. In the olden days being fair skinned implied you didn't have to work outdoors and had a lot of leisure time, which implied a certain level of social class. Nowadays, being tanned means you've probably spent a lot of leisure time either outdoors or abroad, which again, implies a certain level of social class.

[@terri8372]

@@JoneseyBanana Which would also explain the growing obsession with fitness. More time and wealth to be able to afford to take care of your body.

[@elenapopovic6261]

The other factor is that tanned skin objectively speaking makes a smile look whiter, a person look thinner, eyes look less tired and hides our very Caucasian pink skin resulting from broken capillaries and various other maladies. When I started tanning I realized I just looked objectively better, which is when I started to view darker skinned women as objectively more attractive than us. Which they are, if you remove a white supremacy lens.

[@cretancaptainidomeneus534]

@Gurl EYee How is finding someone beautiful a form of guilt? I'm a white lady myself, and a lot of other white women just look awkward to me. Of course, black women do too at times, but I feel like they carry their beauty differently, and have better looking bodies and faces overall. And telling someone to kill themselves is never nice, shame on you.

[@LowestofheDead]

Rich people started travelling to tropical locations and tanning, which meant browner skin was associated with wealth, which created the fake tan industry..

[@LindaK14]

When it comes to white people tanning, there's a link to that with wealth. If you go on vacation to somewhere warm and sunny you come back with a tan. I knew a girl who used bronzer as foundation after spring break because she expected all her friends to be tan from their vacations and didn't want to be left out. If you have harsh tan lines, you were probably working a job outside, but if you have the bikini lines, then you were just out in the sun to relax

[@GraemeMulvaney]

you are raising the valid point, it is the difference between having the time to spend in the sun and having to spend time in the sun - there is a world of difference between a ”beach tan” and a ”farmer's tan” - it isn't about lighter being better, rather that a heavy ”tan” is a sign of outdoor manual labour - white collar workers get their tan in a bottle, from a salon or on a beach. Constantly fingering Europeans for endemic cultural biases is racist in of itself - pale skin was considered attractive in Chinese and Japanese courts purely because the lack of a tan was considered a sign of wealth. It isn't that lighter is better, it's that lighter tended to mean wealthier. In the North pale skin suggests you can't afford a holiday in the sun, but too much of a tan indicates that all you did was lie in the sun - hence the desirability of people with a ”healthy tan” - it shows they can afford to travel, know how to look after themselves and probably do more than lounge around on holiday.

[@Sarah-ru2pd]

There's also the simple fact that tanning appears to even out blemishes in skin tone, blemishes in a pale girl stand out more. so those super tanned seem to have better, more even skin.

[@annicaivansson5873]

I can only confirm this! As a swede living in northen sweden where we dont see the sun for ~3 months during the darkest part of the winter, if someone shows up with a tan in december every one knows that that person could afford a sunny holiday far away. And yes they will be admired for that tan, for that person have seen the sun and can prove it. And the craving for sunshine in december is high!

[@subblonde3101]

@@Sarah-ru2pd yeah that is really what it is, you also look slimmer, your muscles are more defined, hence why body builders put on that dark fake tanner before shows. Has nothing to do with "perceived wealth" and vacationing.

[@rebekahsquires2073]

Sub.Blonde never heard the theory about looking slimmer and muscles more defined...really?!

[@jessicawood2972]

Growing up watching the Martin Lawrence show, I was always confused when Martin would insult Pam's looks because it was clear (to me anyway) that she is a beautiful woman.

[@konnono3209]

South East Asian here. In our case, we didn't even need colonizers to brainwash us into thinking whiter = better! Also the fact that your face remains deadpan whenever you make jokes kills me more than the jokes themselves hdjfhsmdjsl

[@fuzzywuzzythebackyardigans2283]

D W that was hilarious

[@andthebanshees]

Derek Lowe nah, a lot of us could care less about white skin so...

[@inkchip7351]

Nice name bro!

[@Kadaspala]

Great video. I'm a white guy myself who theoretically knew about this for most my post-childhood life, but it was only after dating and marrying a dark skinned black woman that I became aware of just how absurdly pervasive it is to this day. As a lot of other people have already pointed out, even when video games, toys, etc throw black representation a bone they often overlook facial features, hair types, etc.

[@penguin_drive]

@Derek Lowe Derek, we live in diverse societies that should be reflected in our products and media. This whole "white help" narrative is ridiculous. I don't understand American white supremacists, you construct this idea of "whiteness" for yourself to latch on to an identity. I'm Greek/Dutch I come from heavily distinct cultures that have their own unique history and things they are responsible for, both good and bad, I'm caucasian but I'm not "White". New inventions build up on one another and I can fucking assure you that history was not just written by caucasians. The first writing systems emerged in the middle east, Indians were the first to perform medical diagnosis, mining first emerged as a practice in Zwaziland, south Africa, and the Chinese have had goddamn earthquake detectors since 132 AD. This idea of catering to specific racial groups while not taking others into consideration is ludicrous, people should create for people, who cares if they're brown or black? You better stop using paper now, the Chinese didn't make it for you.

[@TheSub2rainen]

My Sims can only have European or Asian features. 🙄

[@penguin_drive]

@Derek Lowe You read and rebutted nada of what I said. Talking to you is useless. Have a good day.

[@TheSub2rainen]

Derek Lowe we live in diverse societies because Europeans explored the world, decided places they visited belonged to them, and, being too lazy to do their own work, kidnapped whole other groups and imported them to Europe and the Americas to use them as forced labor and sexual servitude. Even Euro-centric history texts show that. Read a book once in a while.

[@TheSub2rainen]

Derek Lowe not since 1492.

[@los9952]

Dark skin girls are gorgeous

[@SKOLAH]

Oh god. Fetishisizing women of colour...

[@TM-il8rb]

How is he fetishizing them? He’s just giving them a compliment tf

[@jenniferdavilla5149]

@@TM-il8rb Yea I agree thinking dark skin girls are gorgeous is just stating you think the way thay look is attractive to you and that's perfectly fine. That alone does not mean your fetishizing them that's not how that works. This people are being way to sensitive.

[@jenniferdavilla5149]

@@cryingthrowingup4256 Your right but what you're talking about is pandering and if that's what your saying considering the video he's commenting under you'd have a better argument. I just don't get jumping to the conclusion of fetishes Just because somone thinks dark skin is attractive to them. You sounds a bit paranoid. I get that a lot of black people have been fetishized so i understand the paranoia but none the less you sound paranoid. To be fair though we really don't know what's in this person's heart that posted this whether its pandering, fetishizing or he's just making a genuine statement from his heart. Sometimes I think it's good to just take a compliment and move on. Not everything has to be bad.

[@ashlynnwoodruff5800]

What is wrong with y’all he’s just complimenting darkskin girls damn.

[@amysuarez2456]

I remember when I was a child I saw a movie where a “dark skinned” boy used all his money to buy soap to try to “clean” his dark skin away and wondered “why would he do that? I’m darker than him and I LOVE my dark skin.” Now as a 20 year old I wonder where that love went.

[@cheeznockers2755]

😭

[@alinageorge2681]

I'd seen that movie when I was little too! when the aunty yells at the boy to accept who he is and then at his mentors for making him feel ashamed was so memorable

[@eleegee]

Heck, what movie was it?

[@themumblingdumpling2838]

This song about papaya is just asking to become a meme

[@ryebread3039]

god I hope it does, it's hilarious

[@ellaaspinall949]

filipino ads are the freaking best, man.

[@Elm04]

most filipino ads are (coming from a filipino who has to listen to them)

[@free22]

Ella Aspinall By best you mean worst though.

[@silvabakx6396]

Disgusting yet amusing

[@nitzan3782]

India is a case study in colorism.

[@Hubert_Cumberdale_]

Yeah isn't the whole "aryan" thing from there?

[@devanshrathore9112]

@@Hubert_Cumberdale_ yeah its an indian word. I remember bragging about being more Aryan because Im lighter skinned than most Indians. Makes me cringe now.

[@ishanafondekar6334]

i was told as a kid that i wasnt 'too dark' so there was hope for me to look nice. im brown skinned, not very dark but brown so i apparently 'have nice features but look better if i was lighter' i dont even care. i like my skin tone just the way it is

[@ANTSEMUT1]

And I'd say casteism too., since light skinned Indians are a lot of time of high caste.

[@ishanafondekar6334]

@@ANTSEMUT1 not always but yeah ig. majority of times they are fair bc theyre from the north

[@IAmTired163]

I can't believe how accurately u highlighted that "light skinned actors are celebrated in South India although there people are dark skinned".

[@stephaniewilliams9789]

Yes, correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought I learned that Indians from the southern part of India are dark skinned. And Indians from the northern part of India are lighter skin because of Persian conquests. I remember, this has been several years ago, when MISS INDIA won the Miss Universe contest, it was in the news that Indian people in India complained that she, “looked too Indian”. can you believe that?

[@ethanhartleyhastings2256]

I'm very glad in recent years there has been more dark-skinned representation in Hollywood. Not enough, but it's something.

[@justanotheryoutubecommente2]

I've been seeing Sterling K. Brown a lot more recently and it makes me really happy. I first saw him as a vampire hunter in Supernatural and he was great. His voice is like cold hard iron, it makes him a really bone-chilling antagonist

[@sirensongss]

Ethan Hartley Hastings I’m curious to see studies on if it’s more, or just marketed more. Female representation is still at an unchanging trend down for the past several years, but it doesn’t seem like it if you don’t count.

[@benji_kay]

made me think of Daniel Kaluuya

[@lfrancis8980]

+

[@nyikomaswanganyi5983]

@Derek Lowe Well most african countries rarely have any white people and the ones who do have a ton of white people in their movies like South Africa. America however has a significant black population.

[@AmerIndianMe]

What I don't understand is why is it that people think that it's a compliment when they tell you that you're cute to be a dark skinned girl. FYI, it's not a dam compliment nd it's offensive af🤦🏾‍♀️

[@sersastark]

Facts

[@Karin-fj3eu]

Reminds me of something a cousin of mine said as a response to my dad saying someone didn't look good, she pretty much started saying "she does look good! She looks really good for a-" I noticed it and called her out for it cause I knew she would've said black (woman/girl)

[@findyourpixiedusteveryday6344]

so when people tell me i have beautiful blond hair and freggles, i should be offended...? wake up girl... that's plain ridiculous and says more about you than about the person who says to you that you're a cute dark skinned girl... obviously you're not really able to allow someone to give you a compliment and to receive it... have you ever thought about that?

[@findyourpixiedusteveryday6344]

@@Karin-fj3eu that's another implication if you ask me....

[@AudioGAWD]

That's like telling a woman you're cute to be so big or anything like that, as if the traits are mutually exclusive.

[@amyslingsby6947]

We’re of northern French descent (read: translucent white, pale eyes) and my mother hated my brother’s girlfriend instantly. She was funny, nice, family-oriented and of French descent too, but had black hair, warm skin, brown eyes and it took me years to figure out that was what my mom had against her. It’s literally the stupidest thing in the world, but it seems to exist in all cultures. Thanks for posting this. Maybe more people will think about the biases and cut it out.

[@savary5050]

How dark skinned was she?

[@Sabertoothlive]

@@savary5050 warm lol

[@charliekahn4205]

So she was of Mediterranean, Turkish, or Jewish descent?

[@aygulmemet4201]

French girls don't like tanning?? Whaaatttttt

[@Ru136]

@@aygulmemet4201 you can remove a tan. It's like putting your hair in cornrows despite not being a Black person, or wearing Native American headdresses despite not being Native. It's just a cool exotic costume that you can take off at the end of the day and go back to enjoying white privilege. On the other hand, an actual person from a minority culture or race celebrating their own origins or walking around with naturally dark skin is considered undesirable and they are penalized for it.

[@squishedmoofin7173]

As a mixed person who sees this in his whole family while not being accepted by said family... I needed this a lot. Thank you.

[@lubnan08]

Same

[@barbararichardson2747]

Proof that this division among many began at home and have destroyed many relationships among siblings.

[@bruhsoundeffect2882]

Even if all people of the world mixed to the point of homogany, there would still be colorism.

[@MajorMlgNoob]

@Luce M it'll be achieved 1 day, atleast as long as the planet doesn't collect

[@lobosolo2884]

If it wasn’t skin color it would be eye color or earlobe shape. People will find something to hate.

[@florjean965]

@Luce M Greetings my previous post was rushed and poorly executed (I am was writing on my cellphone). Yes, everyone experiences discrimination throughout their lives. To the Black people who choose to be colorist, they're displaying the negative, long lasting effects of slavery and colonialism. It's a damn, shame that anyone who has more Eurocentric features are praised as being the standard for beauty. However, I think it is important to have frank and honest conversations about colorism (or any other ism) in order for people to see it's not some isolated incidence. Regardless, which side of the political spectrum one is on, people should be able to speak openly and condemn such harmful ideologies.

[@makebaanne3060]

@@lobosolo2884 right, it's so sad

[@checkmattee222]

@@lobosolo2884 So that's why we should just learn to accept how we were born looking no matter who says what.

[@danielrhymes4593]

It always frustrated me in RPGs when I couldn't make a black character - I can't imagine how frustrating it must be for someone who is black to just make a character that looks kind of like them.

[@KhayJayArt]

@Derek Lowe you'll find any reason to talk shit about black people, huh ?

[@Nakia11798]

you know what game was always great for representation? Sims. It’s not an rpg but it’s always had plenty of skin tones, gay people, and added in trans people in sims 4. It’s always been god awful for hairstyles of all races though.

[@vibing6530]

I'm black and it is fustruating. What I also find frustrating is that I am a girl and there is hardly any girl options in cool games as well.

[@sandysushi591]

@@Nakia11798 I'm white and I play both Sims 3 and 4 and I have to get a ton of CCs for my sims who have darker skin tones and black hairstyles, it bothers me how there's like no good dreads or curly hair in the base game T_T

[@charmainej4820]

@@Nakia11798 Dauntless has different "black"hairstyles and you can thicken your lips and widen your nose....too bad the game is not as amazing as the character building lol.

[@alesandraroblespulgar1020]

Colorisim exist in latin american countries. Sadly some scars of colonialism doesn’t heal yet

[@criskp6861]

I know and it's aweful. Classism is also veeeery prevalent

[@Karin-fj3eu]

Oh yeah I heard my cousin mentioning several times that I think her mom even said she should marry a white man to "improve the race" ??? (Mejorar la raza) Its extremely bizarre to hear that said as something so normal

[@YoureRightIThink]

@@Karin-fj3eu based señora

[@friesxnxcoke]

Dark Latin Americans always get a nickname. Referring to skin tone. Smh just stop.

[@1WEareBUFO1]

Shit, it exists everywhere. Even in Asian countries, dark skinned minorities are rarely represented.

[@sumipun5856]

As a light skinned brown girl I hated it when my family (near and extended) compared me with my cousins and told me that it will be easy for me to find husband since I was 13.

[@sumipun5856]

@Amelia Jones my family is not millennial They are bunch of ladies in 50s and 60s And nothing is wrong being millennial

[@strauchdieb7628]

In Europe historically the upper class, who didn't need to work outdoors valued their untanned skin. Marble-like transparent skin showing blue veins was fashionable - hence "blue bloods". This changed, when manual labour moved from predominantly agriculture to working in factories indoor. Outdoor activities and hence a tan became synonymous with leisure time and sports activities in sunlight and therefore more attractive.

[@shayb8203]

Very interesting, thanks!

[@iexist714]

Couldn’t agree more! Thank goodness makeup is improving today, but most companies make shades like ✋🏻✋🏻✋✋✋✋✋✋✋✋✋✋✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏽✋🏽✋🏾✋🏾✋🏿

[@FirstnameLastname-es1ko]

lily. It’s often even without the last one. Which is so stupid.

[@jaycookie2912]

Makes me think back to that Beauty blender „range“, _yikes_

[@jeaninejeanine3053]

Talk about the bronzers, its like one shade for all dark skinned people, like wtf

[@sabrinastars1284]

The one I hate is when there’s like 40 shades but the store only carries 20. And out of that 20 they have 5 deep/dark shades. So I either end up looking ashy or like a pumpkin 😶

[@mimialves6343]

I remember talking about race in a high school class and a teacher mentioned something that sounded similar to your "Yo Mama" joke. She said her family would say "she was so beautiful that when the sun went down, you couldn't see her until she smiled." I always found the super dark skin stunningly beautiful and elegant, but I am wary about mentioning it because I'm white and don't want to fetishize a group of people. I really ought to watch that other video of your's you mentioned next.

[@AliceDiableaux]

Same. I'm not white although I'm like the most white-passing person ever (maybe second to my brother who's even lighter) and I've always found black women the most beautiful by a mile, the darker the more beautiful. Funnily enough this is not the case in my attraction to men, where skin color seems to have no influence.

[@neuralmute]

Yeah, I get it. I'm probably the palest girl ever, and I find dark girls very attractive. I find myself twitchy about not fetishizing anyone, and yet dating girls from India, and Kenya, and Puerto Rico, and I feel cringy when the racial aspect is pointed out. ("What's wrong with white girls?") NOTHING! I just find everyone else beautiful and interesting too...

[@johannageisel5390]

@@neuralmute I have a similar thing with men. To me, dark hair, dark eyes and brown skin look more attractive than the German standard, which is dark blonde to light brown hair, grey-blue eyes and pale skin. I think I simply find the latter a bit boring because it's so common here. However, in the end it is still ALWAYS up to the personality of somebody. The described looks may be my preference, but they are not a fetish. A fetish is when you find a feature more important than the person carrying it and that's definitely not the case for me.

[@neuralmute]

@@johannageisel5390 *EXACTLY!!!* Two of the girls I mentioned above ended up as close friends, rather than girlfriends, and that's more than cool. One's my BFF who I love like my adopted sister, and vice-versa. I live in Toronto, one of the most diverse cities in the world, so it makes sense to be meeting people from all over everywhere. Maybe I find darker girls beautiful because they're different from what I see in the mirror every day. Maybe it's because growing up, my sister, who was born with the "Medeterranian" genes in our family - curly black hair, brown eyes, and olive skin that tans, compared to my straight auburn hair, grey eyes, and pallid skin that either burns to a crisp or freckles - was "the pretty one". Which is bullshit BTW, how when there are two sisters they always seem to be classified as "the Smart One" and "the Pretty One", as if being both isn't possible, or it's a competition. All I know is that beauty shouldn't be a competition, or limited to any race or skin tone. I've got crushes from Cate Blanchett to Lupita Nyong'o!

[@TheSub2rainen]

Johanna Geisel Always suspected I should move to Germany, Sweden, or Norway.

[@KeyloLane]

My sister is lighter than me. So I'm used to hear people saying :"oh... it's funny, why is she lighter than you??". 😑

[@checkmattee222]

Same! My sister's literally pale next to my tan brown skin and people be like, "y'all don't look alike at all" I even just got used to saying it before people say it to me because it always hurts that they differentiate us two based on our skin colours.

[@aresbeta9146]

My older sisters are lighter than me too. We're Filipinos but they didn't use whitening injections like other people have. They just happen to inherit the lighter skin from my father and I didn't

[@ataistephanie7236]

Out of all my sisters are light except me I got my dad's colour

[@crystals7882]

I first witnessed colorism when working at Checkers and one of my African American coworkers stated that they wouldn't have a baby with a girl that was darker than he was. I was so shocked to learn of a whole level of discrimination within a group of people that was already so heavily discriminated against. I couldn't believe that someone who experienced racism in their daily lives would perpetuate that even further into their own lives.

[@tinalove4324]

Ikr!!

[@mercedeswills1327]

Just imagine what adversity and conditioning they had to go through to get them to come to the conclusion that having a child as dark as them or darker would be a negative thing. To be conditioned to believe that your skin is not worthy of love is a sad thing. And they on the surface want to have a beautiful child but on a deeper level want there child to have it better then they had. So I don’t agree with that statement but Iv been there, I can relate and I understand it on a personal level. When there is no hope that change will come people work with what they have. White has always been right in America and it’s a privilege to not have to balance unapologetically loving your skin/ culture and assimilation so get ahead .

[@moonrocked]

@Luce M bro you are preaching the gospel. People don’t care about morals, they only care when they’re the ones on the other end.

[@mercedeswills1327]

@The shenanigans of a Platypus thank you for providing my point. Yes The environment plays a part and people, and when they have a chance to do better for themselves in an unfavorable environment they do less then ideal things to protect themselves, that includes perpetuating a system that discriminates against them as you pointed out, you seem to be getting stuck on morality, “ people are who they are” when in fact there have been many students show and books written that show people behave wildly differently depending on the situation and environment. So yeah, while I hate to think about it, people will pick self preservation and betterment instead of sticking to there moral code when the situation unfavorable and there is little hope of change. Ultimately we are saying the same thing I am just encouraging people give the situation the complexity it deserves. The sentiment that people and society are trash in this thread is reductive and does nothing to solve the problem. Stating colorism existence in other countries doesn’t mean it is inherent and Cannot be changed. It just proves that it is a system people have benefited from. Just because people are raised to love their skin doesn’t mean they are blind to the reality that society doesn’t. And that is my point. Some people need to make a conscious decision to love their skin and embrace there culture fully or deny parts of it to get ahead in the world. Do I agree with it no, is it understandable yeah, you may not agree but don’t act like they are simply bad people for doing so, the situation is much more complex then that.

[@bjrnjensen7074]

Racisms very much exist among people of colour as well. Let me give you just ONE example (I could have mentioned a few more, but due to the lack of space..): I am a white male and one of my best friends here in Oslo comes from Eritrea (East Africa, for those of you with little knowledge in geography). He had been dating a girl who had singalese parents (from Sri Lanka), and after a while he hinted that it would be nice to meet the girl`s parents. Her parents didn` t know anything about their daughters boyfriend. When they found out... they more or less told her directly that they would have accepted a white Norwegian, but a singalese man would have been the best choice-and both were sceptic towards her boyfriend. Needless to say; my friend is no longer dating this girl. Which is a sad thing.

[@WeStarcraftNow]

Thanks for making this video bro, as a dark skinned Indian man, this is something I've noticed a lot happening in bollywood and its a big reason why I stopped consuming the media. The other reason being I don't actually understand the language. I'be brought this up to people, especially in my family, and a lot of the time it's kind of passed off as "oh the fat guy is complaining about something etc etc, and it's hard to make people see past that into the real and concrete reality that is pretty light skinned guys get the attention as the "good looking dudes". There's this one actor that I'm pretty fond of, he's been in a lot of bollywood movies and all he does is comedy, Johnny Lever . He's a really funny dude, in the context of popular Indian media, but often that's where dark skinned guys go, comedy. It's a shared thing with fat dudes as well, more often than not we are funny characters and little else, we're there to bring levity and that's the entirety of our role. I've definitely played into this, but I can still recognize it happening all the time and it's very frustrating to see. I know colorism is a thing among many black people, and the stark preference for lighter skin seems to go across many cultural bounds, but seeing it on youtube by a dude I respect is really nice. Thank you.

[@angelicaknows]

Another wonderful video!! ...another example in media, Fresh Prince replacing the dark skin Aunt Viv with a lighter one.

[@tyronechillifoot5573]

That was more about her flipping out on set

[@Cangeltibon]

Tyrone Chillifoot Still could have gotten a closer match. They went from a strong willed, dark skinned woman, to a lighters and far more subservient one, her literal character changed not just the actor. From the switch to the end Aunt Viv was more of a house wife than than anything else, she didn’t have many strong scenes. Where aunt Viv could be stern but fair all on her own the later series had to make uncle Phil that much more of an authoritarian to compensate and it’s usually went comedically bad and played on the angry black man stereotype. In the end if they had a problem with the actress they should have found a similar actress who could kept up the character in both portrayal and appearance.

[@peacheskong2245]

@@Cangeltibon That woman was just there to fill in a spot. She was the most forgettable character on a family show, ever. What does it really matter that her tone was different? She was blant, unseasoned they might as well have picked a blonde, blue-eyed white woman to play her part lol

[@susanneyuk-pingpong8705]

@@peacheskong2245 mate, are you brain-dead? Did you not watch the video?

[@Dave102693]

@@tyronechillifoot5573 she wasn't any different than most actresses. If she was light skin, she would of been given more passes.

[@suethemarysue4969]

As a middle schooler I can confirm that middle schoolers are infact monsters

[@JGCofficial]

same here bro. especially 6th graders

[@paohaqui]

When I saw Zendaya in the greatest show man I wasn't even sure why she was discriminated, she's barely dark.

[@luthientinuviel3883]

Yeah I was confused by that too.

[@mirandathepandakitty1630]

Because setting and time period

[@Fuzzy_Slippers111]

Via That’s not the point. They made Anne Wheeler’s brother dark skin, yet she’s light skin. Why? Further perpetuating that dark skin is masculine. Anne wheeler is supposed to be an African American I don’t know why they couldn’t have chosen a fully black girl actor to play her if they could for her brother.

[@luthientinuviel3883]

@@Fuzzy_Slippers111 I initially thoight the two of them were dating cause their skin was way different....

[@moonrocked]

@@via1096 mixed race people definitely didn’t have it worse. You must not know anything about history but they were extremely privileged back then and had way more opportunities than black people.

[@unicorn1876]

im south asian. ive lost count of how many relatives complimented me on 'being fair', as if it were a good thing, or an accomplishment.

[@rosie5348]

I’m Moroccan and literally everyone here that sees me tells “ you’re so white and beautiful”, or they would tell me they wish they had my skin

[@thearcadegamer8128]

Thats so shallow. Light skin isn't gonna get you nowhere.

[@9000ck]

Yeah, same here. Colorism is a major problem amongst south asians.

[@Chronorust]

@@thearcadegamer8128 Well it will if people in charge are not dark skinned 😉

[@plasticlope7995]

Me too!! I'm south east asian and people always compliment me on my light skin, even though i dont think its important

[@claudiarcade]

Great video dude. The world needs more voices talking about this who have experienced this discrimination and racism first-hand

[@lydia8526]

Actually there is colorism in Asia too. Being like really fair is associated with being rich and beautiful while being darker is associated with the exact opposite. There are a lot of products to whiten the skin tone as a result. It is sad that a lot of people all around the world cares about such simple things that should not be a deal like skin color and tone.

[@havcola6983]

Colorism in Asia is not just also there, it's jacked up on stereoids and considered entirely normal, and enough so that it's pretty easy for people outside of the same racial group to pick up on it. Even in supposedly more egalitarian countries like Singapore you'll often be able to tell someone's relative social standing by their hue. Darker skin tone and you're assumed to be a day laborer or at most lower middle-class.

[@britniemonet_3693]

He used an Asian ad of a girl singing about how white her skin was lol it’s not a laughing matter I feel terrible about all colorism that happens around the world

[@Clawdragoons]

I've played video games where there are shades of skin like blue or green, but not highly dark natural skin colors. Heck, I've played a game where the darkest color you could be was actually purple.

[@FirstnameLastname-es1ko]

Claw Dragons lmao seriously??

[@chipmunkmonster6]

Dude, this struck so close to home, my families latino, my sister (who is lighter skinned than me) and myself would always be compared to each other. She would be complimented on her pretty 'white' skin, I was always told to stay out of the sun so I wouldn't get darker. Really messes with your self esteem

[@smoochaghost2588]

SAME! Oh god how I fucking loathe each time my grandmother would chastise me to stay out of the sun, or else my skin will "get darker" Note: I've got two younger sisters who have lighter skin tones than me. It's really fucked up when people in your family would constantly ignore and dumb down what you did, what you accomplished into simply a one-dimensional s k i n t o n e

[@gowri8946]

Dont worry gurl ur beautiful the way ur

[@booklover8081]

I wish more Latino influencers would talk about how bad the colorism is in the Latino community. My grandparents made me feel so insecure about going outside and doing things because I am pretty pale so it was drilled into me that I couldn’t enjoy outside activities as much as my darker skinned siblings and cousins. Which sucked because I was a very active child and loved the outdoors. I still feel a bit of panic when I spend too much time outside and have such an issue with my self esteem because of it.

[@LuMartinez001]

This is Mexico as well ugh.

[@marjuracek]

I’m light skinned too. My sister is darker, to the point she has been asked if she is mixed. I noticed us getting treated different. Something huge I noticed within the family and extended family was being told not to marry a darker man to better the race. My brother is with another Puerto Rican woman a little darker than my sister. Her mother kept telling me when they were pregnant she hopes the baby comes out looking like me with my beautiful white skin. It made me sick to my stomach. This was the worse comment I ever heard. She already had another grandchild from her son who’s gf was a dark skinned black woman. She even ruined his hair. Shaved his head of his braids his mother had in his hair embracing his black culture. That family acts so nice and you love them immediately until you get to know the sick things they say with Color.

[@SistaCassie]

That woman singing in that commercial tho ."..papaya...my skin so whiiiite.." 🙄 She looked and sounded insane

[@davelawson03]

I cringed so hard.

[@theemirofjaffa2266]

Ikr. She sounded so creepy I actually had to skip it..lol

[@elissalombard7021]

Was going to comment this. Bizarre and creepy

[@jay_2tha_bee]

😂😂😂😩 she really did lls

[@luvsupreme]

😂😂😭😭

[@altheapolyam]

As the white daughter of a black mother, I gotta say thank you, as now I'm a bit more conscious about all these topics. Will research more and try help as I can. Loves 🤙🏻

[@kittyythecat]

I'm Mexican but I do get asked if I am "black"" because my skin is so dark. It does hurt a little when you are told in that light skin is beautiful. Mexico (latino and over 95% of the countries) think this way. Its why I didn't get one of my friends who had light skin say she wanted to get a tan. I was a bit confused by how much she gets told how light and pale she is. People always compliment her too. Don't get me wrong, she is cute. Just those who only talk about her skin tone makes me a little down. In the end, I am trying to ignore it. Thank you for talking about this though.

[@justanotheryoutubecommente2]

My best friend is Mexican and she's on the darker side of the Latina spectrum. A lot strangers end up thinking she's Indian. Personally I find her beautiful, not just because she's my friend and not in spite of her dark skin, but because of it and dozens of other things. Times and attitudes are changing slowly but surely, and someday everyone will realize the truth that your skin tone makes you no less attractive or valuable

[@patricklincoln5942]

It might be worse in Mexico. I remember this tv "novela" called Luz Clarita. This pale little girl was the star of the program. My friends and I used to jokingly make fun of the program by singing Luz Oscurita instead when the intro came on.

[@lfrancis8980]

Pink Bunny this also comes into education about Latin America: textbooks I've used also have this issue, upper class people are drawn as lighter than farmers and laborers.

[@tya1426]

@Cassandra Pentaghast This is also the same for me to some extent, I am mixed race and an immigrant, but I was younger than my brother when my family left Madagascar so I ended up being lighter than him. Everyone compliments my light skin and I am fully aware of how privileged it makes me but I just wish I looked like people in my mom's side of the family. I don't even look like my white father either, it's ridiculous. Madagascar isn't even a well-known country and some people don't even know people live there so I've had several instances of people just calling me a liar.

[@JazminDiaz01]

I really don’t think these comments are helpful to this poster. People complaining about how light they are is really no help at all smh 🤦🏻‍♀️. I’ll say this I’m sure you’re beautiful, and having that beautiful tan that glows is gorgeous I hope you see that one day. Peace and blessings.

[@alfiona7951]

Okay that "My skin's so White" song....wtf😂😂😂😂

[@JeromeProductions]

Fr 😔

[@danegonzales5651]

The thing is that commercial is from my country so I thought it was just a regular KZbin Ad until I couldnt find the skip button for a few seconds. And oh boy, that's literally normal here in the Philippines. If you have lighter skin, it means you're wealthier and/or more attractive. Lately in the past few decades we're having a resurgence of loving our natural brown/dark-brown skin, but this obsession with achieving fairer skin is so ingrained in our culture you can't get away from it entirely

[@alfiona7951]

@@danegonzales5651 I watched it a couple weeks ago on KZbin. I thought it was a vine at first lol.

[@nmirriaml6247]

I know right 😂😂😂

[@Jade-ns5dm]

and we have to go through that shit everyday here 😭✌️ im tired, im embarassed. (that ad is from my country lol)

[@iavv334]

I actually just learned about this in my anthropology class. Wary stuff

[@Dorian_sapiens]

It's great that they talk about this in anthropology courses!

[@iavv334]

@@Dorian_sapiens I had a very interesting professor. She was a super white Ohioan with a sort of valley-girl-esque voice, has done most of her field work being with and studying the Crow Nation, and had married a man from West Africa. She has had a very good idea of how race and color affect relations both interpersonally and societally since she's had to navigate between these very very different cultures throughout her life, and made sure we got to too

[@lfrancis8980]

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[@catherinesimpson6256]

This was one of the most articulate and detailed description of colourism I have watched on KZbin. I think you do a really really good job in helping to provide insight into this topic for people who are not familiar with it .

[@truthsmiles]

As a straight white dude, I’d say you’re quite handsome! And thanks for this video - I always learn something new from you, T1J. Please keep up the great work ☮️

[@justanotheryoutubecommente2]

As an asexual white female, I'd say he's as attractive as any of us flesh bags

[@Tyler360]

@@justanotheryoutubecommente2 Nah you know he's packin

[@Clawdragoons]

@@justanotheryoutubecommente2 As a white zoophile of questionable gender, I think there are many fleshbags which are far more attractive, if you're willing to step away from humans.

[@justanotheryoutubecommente2]

@@Clawdragoons oh no 😂

[@AliceDiableaux]

Doesn't sound very straight to me bro 😏😏😏 -

[@ErwinSmithy]

I"m a lightskin woman I acknowledge my privilege, but lately, I've noticed a new sort of issue surrounding especially women like me, the fetishization of our race.

[@savary5050]

By lightskin do you mean black or white person? I just need clarification

[@xy8994]

@@savary5050 black people who have a light skin tone with black features some of them can be very pale

[@cocoleexoxo]

Like the Jenner girls kinda thing?

[@dannydevito560]

@@cocoleexoxo no the Jenner girls are white. An example of a light skin girl is Jason Derulo's gf Jena Frumes

[@cocoleexoxo]

@@dannydevito560 ya lol I know. I was tryin to say they always pretend to be light skinned poc.Maybe like their 1/2 sisters who themselves darken their skin? Why do they do that even? And get away wit it?

[@ashleycnossen3157]

Isn't it crazy and frustrating? You can hit some people with a 2x4 of Truth and they still won't understand. I grew up having extremely positive associations with the darkest skin tones. I felt so disrespected on my own behalf and on behalf of my dark-skinned friends when my dad and grandparents started to tell me otherwise - I lost all respect for them and have never looked back. I've never understood on a soul level how people can look at someone and never see who they really are just because of their skin tone. And I've never understood how people can't see the immense beauty that I see in dark skin. Deeply black women, in my opinion, are some of the most beautiful women on earth.

[@loleia777]

"I like how I look, I think I'm pretty sexy"

[@just-trying-my-best-everyday]

The "Chocolate Boi" part was so wholesome.

[@alanhamilton3789]

I’ve always thought actresses like Lupita Nyong’o and Danai Gurira were stunningly beautiful. I know my opinion doesn’t mean much in the grand scheme of things, though. I’m confident that the rapidly growing Black Lives Matter movement can start to put us on a better path. Thank you for making this video.

[@kirabojoy5784]

God bless your beautiful soul

[@penniecollins8558]

Alan Hamilton Hear, hear! ❤️

[@penniecollins8558]

Amilah I’m sorry for you. BLM may or may not be so-called Marxist. But I will support them as the ONLY organization willing and able to stand up and draw attention to the house on the block that needs to be rescued from a fire. In THESE particular times, no one else was even making a wave in public opinion. I don’t care who the water hose belongs to, or what the hands aiming it do on their own time. I just want the house that’s burning saved. BLM...save the house.

[@kakashi0429]

See this is good to see but only nice white guys will go for dark skinned women.

[@kakashi0429]

@Amilah the bad white guy tends to be the racist. I am just saying what I observed in rl

[@TimdeVisser86]

When you flashed the hot take 'Colonialism was bad' I just felt sad that this is no longer considered obvious.

[@neuralmute]

No shit. Isn't that supposed to be Lesson #1?

[@jennym3883]

honestly i think a lot of schools dont teach it right, they don't teach that it was bad

[@jgw5491]

It was easier to see when there was more obvious, active colonialism in the world. Too many people think, "Oh, that's history." A lot of the problems in the world now are the trickle down effects of colonialism/slavery, things like, yes, colorism, economic marginalization, and all the secret spaces in people's heads where generations of pain are tucked. It's a long road, but bless folks like T1J for pushing the problems forward.

[@jessicacharlesson5198]

I mean, not all of it was bad, like it’s not obvious that democracy and our basic values would have existed without colonialism, but can you blame the Europeans? I mean if i could I would also want to explore the world and claim it my own, which the Europeans could. And all old great empires that have existed have had slaves, and the Africans fitted well.

[@TimdeVisser86]

@@jessicacharlesson5198 Can I blame the Europeans for a centuries long campaign of genocide, human trafficking, drug trade, torture, rape and the propaganda campaign that justified all of it (i.e. racism)? You tell me. Can you blame anyone for perpetrating a massive crime wave, only to then launder all their money and pretend they never conducted a campaign of terror for their own benefit? And then using that money to out-compete your victims in the market? Because that's what happened. The idea that others would have done it if we hadn't is both self-serving speculation based on circular reasoning, and can excuse any crime that benefits the perpetrator. The idea that democracy could not have existed without colonialism is backwards. Colonialism is a betrayal of the ideals of democracy. It is rank hypocricy. If any of our core values required the existence of racial oppression on a global scale, they wouldn't be worth it. The idea that 'Africans fitted well' is absolutely disgusting in this context. This is some hardcore white supremacist trolling, or some truly staggering ignorance. Either way, I'll not engage with this phallacious, hateful bile any further.

[@meklitzerihun6001]

ive never seen someone explain colorism this well (and cover all the aspects of it). thank you!

[@aquamarineancientsoul7893]

I have really pale skin and my sister who is prettier than me has olive skin, yet ppl act like im the prettier one even tho i look rather violent half the time while she looks more feminine. It makes me angry that ppl are making her feel less confident

[@Orangebipedal]

"even though I look rather violent" 😂😂😂🙌🏽

[@caliken10]

Hopefully we'll get a dark skinned Storm in Marvel's X-Men!

[@natasharules770]

I highly doubt it.

[@tonystank1214]

kenneth taylor smh people were already saying Beyoncé or that Halle Berry could still do it 🤦🏿‍♀️

[@marvelman8996]

Why? Who cares? Find something new to complain about that's meaningful... not superficial

[@sciencenerd777]

I would like Joia John to play her.

[@latonia9478]

Pls not Halle Berry! She's butchered the character enough.

[@javierhuey9817]

Just as I was thinking about Philippines' own problem on Colorism, that Papaya filipino ad showed up LMAO

[@kendallglover2830]

"We all black" sounds exactly like "all lives matter" to me. Anyone who thinks that the black community will be unified by ignoring the social hierarchies that exist within the community are exactly the same as the people who say that racism will go away if we ignore the inequities caused by racism.

[@brendaandrade6753]

Right

[@obatalaosun2222]

@Vanessa Lotachi We don't have a choice. We are GOING to deal with it for the rest of our lives. The question is, do people who are not directly and personally affected negatively by it, want to be better human beings, or not?

[@kexia5630]

Well said.

[@lovelydae7455]

Can dark skin bw have pretty privilege? kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX-0hpJ-p7apiZo

[@cariko]

But they are hierarchies created by whites. So yall intend to let euroxentric ideology control you? Again why attack the person? I can't help I'm light anymore than someone can help they are dark. Keep in mind it's only a matter of how vfrequently our foremithers were RAPED. Who tf is celebrating that? If you're Black american and your folks survived slavery, then you got that white dna too and that could spring up in your kids. Bet you'd sing a different tune then

[@origamiandcats6873]

I watched an absolutely adorable, pretty little girl around five years old call herself ugly because her skin was dark while her mother tried desperately to convince her otherwise. Ideally self-worth should not be dependent on appearance at all. It's really important that this is instilled in children from the beginning. Not only for their own well-being, but so they don't become one of the bullies and bigos of the world.

[@kissme8970]

Light-skinned here. You have no idea how many times I've heard someone say that i got that "good hair" or that my skin color was the perfect shade.

[@kissme8970]

@Molatto Star yes. Don't let my pfp fool you 😂 this is NicoleTV

[@cleoperez6971]

Same here sis

[@ChaoticBluez]

Yep, I remember talking to a Phillipino friend who said “Mariah Carey had normal hair” when she realised she was mixed race, I responded “normal hair?” She replied “I meant European hair”....ummm,...

[@goodjobeli]

ive experienced the opposite. im light skinned but ive been told im "too dark to be mixed" or that my hair is "untamed" and that "you're mixed why is your hair so matted" or even that im "too black and not enough white" people really be picking and choosing what black features are acceptable to have on a mixed person.

[@pretendfriend1417]

Yes. Im pale asf with 3a hair so yes. All my mf life but also by whites as well!

[@jzwalz51robin45]

This is also common in Mexico. All the imprtanct characters in soap operas are light skinned Europeans. Actually, most of Latin America is the same.

[@tracyMcC]

I know. I was stunned when I actually saw that on TV. I thought where's everyone else? There are a lot of different types of people who make up Mexico. Where is everyone else?

[@tracyMcC]

@ruben champollion I've seen a milder version of that reaction. I'm kind of surprised by it. You think they would have a general idea of who settled Mexico because it is a neighbor of the US. It would be like not knowing about Canada.

[@tracyMcC]

@ruben champollion Are you referring to the territory of New Spain?

[@lisve]

I dated this guy once and we started talking about our "type". He said "I don't like black girls" and when I asked him why he said "I just don't find them attractive". And I said "how can you say ALL black women are unattractive? Literally millions upon millions of women are black in this world, and you say you have never thought a black woman was beautiful?" and he was like "yeah pretty much". I tried to get him to explain why he had these beauty standards, but he couldn't elaborate. I was honestly shocked. I have huge doubts that it was only about attraction, I'd say that's pretty racist.

[@unspecifiedunit9126]

I don’t think that’s racist, it’s just his preference probably.

[@dabgurlacc8458]

@@unspecifiedunit9126 how is race a preference? Like? It sounds racist because he generalized all black people. Without any real reason on why he doesn’t like it.

[@starchannel123]

@@unspecifiedunit9126 it’s not a preference if you are closed minded

[@starchannel123]

I’ve seen super brown guys say they are only attracted to whites girls 🤣 like wtf🤡

[@Saralightff]

@@unspecifiedunit9126 shhhh go back to twitch

[@ConvincingPeople]

Interestingly, the people who first introduced what would coalesce into the concept of "race" in Europe, the ancient Greeks, primarily contrasted their own deeply tanned complexions against the Scythians, an Indo-Aryan culture from the Central Asian steppes who were... probably rather fair-skinned. Consider further that the consort of King Solomon, the Queen of Sheba, is said to have founded the royal dynasty of Axum, which ultimately became Ethiopia, and is generally depicted as you would expect of an Ethiopian empress: Beautiful and very, very dark. To whit, one of the most decorated generals and emperors of Rome, Septimius Severus, was Libyan and probably quite dark. It goes on. Point is, at different points in history, what is the "right" skin tone can shift dramatically. People who want to make the classical civilisations light-skinned and draw lines in the sand over that to puff themselves up don't know history.

[@lettylunasical4766]

Careful. This invites the EVeryone-Who-Was-Great-Was-White crowd. Usully they just loiter on any video to do with Eygpt.

[@outherewildinb2874]

The Greek point is doubly poignant now that they are recolouring the classic white statues.

[@elenapopovic6261]

This is big facttttsss. My people look about 50% Greek and 50% Russian, which is borne out by our migrational patterns, language and culture. We were selected for extermination by the Nazi's because our "whiteness was polluted by Arabs and Africans". There is no safety in white supremacy. For anyone. Their fucked up "racial purity" and perversion of Darwinism is nonsense. When in fact most of what they consider "civilization" was created by African and Arab people's and appropriated by their melanin deficient asses.

[@saranchan9556]

Europeans were dark skinned for a very long time either way. Southern and MIddle European Hunter and Gatherers had blue eyes and probably light dark to quite dark skin (No joke or conspiracy, just google something like "European hunters and gatherers dark skin and blue eyes"). It was only through the migration of neolithic farmers (from the Middle East) who mixed with the Hunter and Gatherers that the skin of European became paler. The last biggest impact on European demographic were people from central Eurasia who invaded Europe, imposed their culture and languages on Euopreans (That's the reason why most of us speak Indo-European languages, since all other European languages went extinct except the Basque language) and definitely made everyone's skin tone from very light to light brown. Today all Europeans have a mixture of those three groups (and others who were less significant). The admixture differs from region to region, Swedes have more Indo-European and indigenous ancestry, whereas Greeks have a looot of neolithic farmer ancestry. This is the reason why many Greeks look often very similiar to northern Middle Easterners. So yeah, not only the idea of what skin colour is superior changes over time, also the skin colour of a people itself changes.

[@johannageisel5390]

@@saranchan9556 I have heard from a renowned paleogeneticist, that the genes for pale skin only started to spread after people tried to do agriculture in northern latitudes. The farmers from the middle east were also rather brown, because where they lived there was enough sunlight to produce vitamin D. And the hunter-gatherers ate a lot of meat, so they could meet their vitamin D requirement over their food. But when agriculture started here in Europe, people ate more plants and there was also not enough sunlight around. That was the point when the light skin genes started to spread very quickly through the population.

[@lesleyvalencia6222]

Colorism is one of those things that grinds my gears.

[@enriquefuentebella2146]

Yeeesssssss!!!! We filipinos have issues with light skin, many are obsessed with lighter skinned women, many are obsessed with South Koreans, look up how pale they all look. Literally almost I think 99% of soaps and lotions made directly towards women has a label that says "Get whiter or Lighter skin or Rosie Pink skin" I think its mostly due to the influence of the three different countries that invaded and/colonised us namely "Spain, America and Japan". As a child I was convinced that women with lighter skin-tone Is the most definitive form of beauty, it took me at least until I was 17 to realise thats not the case. Both men and women filipinos are willingly avoiding the sun just to have a lighter skin tone.

[@FirstnameLastname-es1ko]

Enrique Fuentebella that’s so ridiculous. My best friend is a fairly dark skinned filipino, and she is literally one of the prettiest and kindest people I know! Like literally if you saw her, she’s absolutely so gorgeous and I’m so lucky to have a friend as amazing as her, inside and out. As well as this I used to like this Filipino guy in my class, (a friend of my best friend) who was also darker skinned and BOYY he was gl. Of course darker skin is beautiful!

[@FirstnameLastname-es1ko]

While you seem to have deleted your reply, (or it is just not showing up) I can see it in my notifications still, and for clarification purposes I would like to say that I do understand that the mentality of many people living there is that light skin is favorable, but I just wanted to show my appreciation for darker skin types, because appreciate it I do. :)

[@katitadeb]

Well, sun is actually damaging to skin, everyone should wear sunscreen and avoid over exposure, that's BASIC SKINCARE NO MATTER WHAT RACE OR COLOR YOU ARE. Also Koreans are not that pale, they always photoshop themselves or wear lightening creams and get that white mask effect.

[@Maiju86]

Sounds funny for an European person (I am a Finn living in Italy) because it's the contrary here. Especially in Italy everybody wants to be as tanned as possibile! I am very white, I just get pink/ red in the sun and I am embrassed go to the beach in August when everyone else is tanned. I also get negative comments about my whiteness. 🙄

[@zygoncommander1239]

Not all South Koreans look pale, it’s the same thing happening there as everywhere else where the media is all lighter skinned people. Skin color is a huge problem there too, even before contact with the west, especially with their pride over their supposed racial and cultural homogeneity. There’s a reason the government is so heavily involved with media production, it’s good for their economy to be perceived this way. We’ve all seen how crazy white teenage girls are for these light-skinned Korean boy bands. I’m only half Korean and I’m a hell of a lot darker than those guys. I know that’s not what you were really talking about, and Koreans overall have lighter skin, but still I think it’s worth bringing up when we’re talking about colorism

[@benjaminreyes3624]

I remember being in highschool and a dark skin football player said he wished he was light like me.. my heart broke and I wanted to tell him so badly how beautiful he was but I was to scared.

[@TheAlex7863]

Hey uh can we just remember that south asians exist too? Asian constantly seems synonymous with East Asian. I’m Sri Lankan Tamil and brown people face sO much colourism and we’re sorta seen as the bottom of the barrel when it comes to beauty standards. Tbh it’s really hard to see white girls on like social media, etc. imitating my body type and features and getting love for things thatve gotten me so much hate in my life.

[@MTHSLH482]

He literally talked about Bollywood and the prevalent color-ism there. By the way, stop the fucking victim mentality about not being called "Asian". Like, jeez, you probably face problems because of the region you were born in. But acting like you're oppressed because people don't ALWAYS acknowledge you or ALWAYS refer to you as "Asian" is plain ludicrous, I'm also South-Asian and have thought this exact thing but it's really not a big deal.

[@TheAlex7863]

BrainLord Bongo I’m sorry mate. It’s just funny that people don’t know that we exist and also the point I was trying to make is that we’re often the bottom of the barrel and get racism from every other race. Or at least that’s been my experience in all of the countries that I’ve lived in. Also, you didn’t have to react so angrily and that sort of suggests that maybe someone has said these things to you to make you feel like you have to be this way. There’s nothing wrong with wanting people to be nice to you. Have a great day, mate!

[@TheAlex7863]

BrainLord Bongo also I reckon it’s a bit funny that I sometimes get called other races’ slurs because people are just uneducated. But yeah mate, you kinda missed the point, aye.

[@ineffable_name]

Right....just as I never hear about the brown people over there. Not sure how many brown Americans has ever heard of a negrito. Not sure if that's name that any of them are called but all I have to refer to is eurocentric info (which would make us think that negritoa are made for the forest because of how they look and the stature of their bodies).....

[@peacebeyondpassion2]

...Never thought about it like that but you're right. Sorry for what you went/ go through...