This is How Easy It Is to Lie With Statistics

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Zach Star

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@zachstar
@zachstar 5 жыл бұрын
Well....we'll see what you guys think of this one. I know it's a little different from usual but once I read about a few of these stories I had to make a video about the topic. Hope you guys enjoy! Next video will be about the mathematics of crime and some of the things seen in the show 'Numb3rs'.
@3117master
@3117master 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the video. I also liked Numb3rs and cannot wait to see what you do with it. Rossmo's Formula blew my mind Edit: loved how you perfectly generalized people on the interwebs
@MikeOxolong
@MikeOxolong 5 жыл бұрын
It was interesting, I like these videos.
@khoavo5758
@khoavo5758 5 жыл бұрын
It was a spectacular video. Thanks a lot for those crime stories.
@steventran739
@steventran739 5 жыл бұрын
MajorPrep do videos on architecture and architectural engineering
@bravedom2228
@bravedom2228 5 жыл бұрын
Would you consider doing a video on game theory?
@cyclingcycles7953
@cyclingcycles7953 5 жыл бұрын
Statistics have shown that if you start a sentence with "Statistics have shown" people are more likely to believe you.
@bluecatdk
@bluecatdk 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ITR
@ITR 5 жыл бұрын
73.6% of all statistics are made up
@stonecat676
@stonecat676 5 жыл бұрын
@@ITR but other statistics have shown that that is, in fact, false
@grimreaper2129
@grimreaper2129 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck. You : )
@henning_jasper
@henning_jasper 5 жыл бұрын
I literally believed you quite a lot before finishing the sentence. Afterwards I realized that you started the sentence with "Statistics have shown" which made me realize that it already fooled me.... good one
@germansniper5277
@germansniper5277 3 жыл бұрын
We interviewed 1000 people that have played russian roulette before. 100% of them survived the game. Conclusion: Russian roulette is completely safe to play.
@starcrafter13terran
@starcrafter13terran 3 жыл бұрын
1000 Jewish people were interviewed after being released from concentration camps. You know what, I won't go there.
@boombam9611
@boombam9611 3 жыл бұрын
yes , everyone survived.... with an unloaded revolver.
@hrthrhs
@hrthrhs 3 жыл бұрын
@@boombam9611 no no haha the only way someone could be interviewed after playing Russian Roulette was if they survived. It is impossible to interview people who have played Russian Roulette and died because of it, so of course any such interviewing would yield a 100% survival rate.
@doglover334
@doglover334 3 жыл бұрын
@@hrthrhs I’m pretty sure that’s the point of the original comment
@jbjefe
@jbjefe 3 жыл бұрын
This one is called survivor's bias. There's a good example of the Brits determining which parts of a fighter plane to add armor to, and they used the planes that returned to make the decision.
@Shebbi04
@Shebbi04 Жыл бұрын
I remember that I had a math exam where one of the tasks was to manipulate a diagramm to make one computer company look better than the other.
@yeckiLP
@yeckiLP Жыл бұрын
that is a really cool question, as it really drills home how unreliable statistics are, if you yourself can abuse it.
@diffusegd
@diffusegd Жыл бұрын
There's a cool example of this in the Simpsons Paradox, which can be used to fudge results for drug trials to the untrained eye.
@justalonelypoteto
@justalonelypoteto Жыл бұрын
@@yeckiLP in Germany we say "vertraue nie einer Statistik die du nicht selbst gefälscht hast", basically "never trust statistics you yourself didn't manipulate"
@ZaHandle
@ZaHandle Жыл бұрын
That’s sound so cool could you share it or just describe the question?
@Shebbi04
@Shebbi04 Жыл бұрын
@@ZaHandle That was like 5 years ago, all I've written everything I remember about it in the original comment
@tomwilson8637
@tomwilson8637 Жыл бұрын
I read one on which countries had the largest increase in murder rates. New Zealand had an increase of 300 percent , however if you looked at the actual numbers they went from one murder in a year to 3 . I think I would be willing to take my chances
@junkbond4882
@junkbond4882 Жыл бұрын
That's per 100k population. To put it in perspective, for that equivalent year, that's a 52% chance of being killed compared to living in USA. However, two years prior, there was only a 13% chance relative to USA, with a roughly 1/5 chance over the past 10 years. The reason I point out USA is all the gun-related deaths vs. NZ which has much stricter firearms laws. However you look at 2.6 vs 5.1 (rounded) / 100k being high or low, it's interesting how many people say NZ is so safe and USA is dangerous -- future years will determine if NZ retraces lower.
@nccamsc
@nccamsc Жыл бұрын
Going from 1 to 3 is 200% increase, not 300%
@IAmTheRealUsopperGoddamnit
@IAmTheRealUsopperGoddamnit Жыл бұрын
@@nccamsc Lol again shows how unintuitive statistics can be
@jamesharvey1720
@jamesharvey1720 Жыл бұрын
That's why you measured it per capita....
@troglodyt1
@troglodyt1 Жыл бұрын
@@junkbond4882 According to wikipedia New Zealand had 126 cases of intentional homicide in 2019, a rate of 2.6/100k. During the Christchurch mosque shooting that year 51 people were killed, i.e. nearly half of all intentional homicide victims in 2019 thereby close to doubling the rate per 100k. The 2017 mass shooting in Las Vegas killed 61 people. With total intentional homicide victims north of 20000 that year this event didn't have any impact on the rate per 100k for the US. Context is key...
@Denzie53
@Denzie53 5 жыл бұрын
If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything.
@SisypheanSeas13
@SisypheanSeas13 5 жыл бұрын
Woah. Dark way of saying it, but I see you
@claudiomaiasantos
@claudiomaiasantos 5 жыл бұрын
@@SisypheanSeas13 perfect! I'm "stealing" this quote, but I'll use in portuguese!
@NorwegianQvirr
@NorwegianQvirr 5 жыл бұрын
I might use this haha, brilliant phrase
@henrikf8777
@henrikf8777 5 жыл бұрын
@@claudiomaiasantos How do you say it in portuguese?
@manictiger
@manictiger 5 жыл бұрын
I found it disconcerting that I couldn't find the median life expectancy for most countries. Mean is very unreliable. It can be warped with outliers and noise. Median is far more reliable. So when trying to compare the U.S. to Japan, I only found that the U.S. median life expectancy is 84.5. I have no idea what Japan's is.
@TheoTungsten
@TheoTungsten 3 жыл бұрын
"If 4 out of 5 people suffer from radiation poisoning, does that mean that the 5th guy enjoys it?" -Codsworth, Fallout 4
@draganandrei5356
@draganandrei5356 3 жыл бұрын
Good one
@processinginformation
@processinginformation 2 жыл бұрын
lmao coddy is such a legend
@MrHeuvaladao
@MrHeuvaladao 2 жыл бұрын
Savage
@sethadkins546
@sethadkins546 2 жыл бұрын
I mean obviously, radiation positing feels fucking amazing and idk why more people don't like it
@thiagoandrey2897
@thiagoandrey2897 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the fifth comment talks about enjoying radiation poisoning
@yaughl
@yaughl Жыл бұрын
7:00 "Dropout rates double, from 5% to 10%" is how I'd frame this data.
@toby7161
@toby7161 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but logic doesn't get ad revenue
@anaveragekiwi
@anaveragekiwi Жыл бұрын
@@toby7161 based
@maxgood42
@maxgood42 Жыл бұрын
...If media was honest.... FACEPALM CITY this is why I DON"T use FB....and other sites....yeah I know YT is not Immune to this tactic . . ..... Fun Fact '100% of People that commented on this video watch KZbin at some point' lol
@randychilders9996
@randychilders9996 Жыл бұрын
But politicians, and their advisors, can't use that information to improve their election, or re-election for that matter, chances
@ajbXYZcool
@ajbXYZcool Жыл бұрын
Downside is people may stop paying attention after "double"
@teugene5850
@teugene5850 Жыл бұрын
the story of the mother losing her children and being convicted with stats really hit me... like deeply.
@rileymichael2694
@rileymichael2694 Жыл бұрын
yup. especially because of how messed up the case a whole was. they really fucked that woman over for a disease people are only just beginning to understand
@mrlantan3318
@mrlantan3318 11 ай бұрын
The conviction was later overturned. On the second appeal it was shown the statistics from Dr. Meadow were incorrect and cases like that happen much more frequently than suggested by the figure (1 in 73mil).
@yasseindahshan3556
@yasseindahshan3556 11 ай бұрын
Such is life my friend. Sometimes the whole world is against you even though you haven't done anything. Just remember that when you are judging other people in the future. Never think that there is no way you are wrong.
@janmejaybarve7018
@janmejaybarve7018 10 ай бұрын
​@@mrlantan3318 I remember reading about this, but I think the reason it was overturned was because as medical science advanced, they found some genetic reason for the deaths.
@darkpinkgirl6684
@darkpinkgirl6684 10 ай бұрын
yeah it's super messed up...
@tankmchavocproductions6907
@tankmchavocproductions6907 2 жыл бұрын
I remember my algebra teacher telling us about this, saying that statistics show people with bigger feet are better at math. None of us could have guessed that the statistic studied all ages, so it included babies and toddlers.
@trevor987
@trevor987 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, that's smart
@lotuswolf1518
@lotuswolf1518 2 жыл бұрын
Men usually are taller than women so they have bigger feet, does that mean men are better at math them women
@trevor987
@trevor987 2 жыл бұрын
@@lotuswolf1518 I mean statistically, guys are better at math, so I mean ig it does.
@lotuswolf1518
@lotuswolf1518 2 жыл бұрын
@@trevor987 women are more calculative though
@nonelast4152
@nonelast4152 2 жыл бұрын
That's why in my AP stats class my teacher made it a huge deal to put the context, the group we where studying, any stratification, the way we got the data, any sort of bias that could came up, and error we couldn't account for. Stats are so easily capable to be miscommunicated even if you meant well. Someone could take a number you put out there in good intention and use it to push an agenda while ignoring key aspects of the stat. A stat isn't just the probability, it's the context and situation it was taken with.
@nuthintoprove
@nuthintoprove 4 жыл бұрын
My Statistics teacher told me "Statistics is like a Bikini, what it reveals is interesting, what it hides is crucial."
@beholdandfearme
@beholdandfearme 4 жыл бұрын
This is enlightening and makes me horny. The perfect comment.
@CaVCS
@CaVCS 4 жыл бұрын
Arnold What the fuck
@digitalfootballer9032
@digitalfootballer9032 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so going to use that one.
@vincentconti3633
@vincentconti3633 4 жыл бұрын
Lies, damn lies and statistics....Mark Twain!
@shaggyposts6221
@shaggyposts6221 4 жыл бұрын
@@digitalfootballer9032 same lol, i have a really important data visualization project coming up....
@trev5.566
@trev5.566 7 ай бұрын
My Grandpa used to say, “Figures don’t lie, but liars figure.” So much truth in that. I’ve always kept that in the back of my head when I see statistics….especially statistics that push a narrative.
@Purpleblackviolet
@Purpleblackviolet 2 ай бұрын
Cool
@TheBlobik
@TheBlobik Жыл бұрын
Lessons: 1. In graphs, always include 0 2. When giving percentage changes, always provide both percent increase (if it doubled, its a 100% increase) and percentage point increase together (if it went from 1% to 2%, it increased by 1 pp)
@R3_Live
@R3_Live 3 ай бұрын
Including 0 isn't actually the pertinent part. What's important is having a consistent scale that includes 0. You can have a graph that includes 0 but also has a break in its axis. Like if you have a graph with data in a field that goes from 0 to 100 but all of the data is grouped in the 80s, you could have the axis of the graph go: 0, 10 ... 70 80 90 100. This includes 0 but still suffers the same deceptive look as if it didn't.
@Strawberryfreak
@Strawberryfreak 3 ай бұрын
I think a big one is --> BE CAREFUL OF DRAWING CONCLUSIONS WITHOUT THINKING
@ammak9372
@ammak9372 Ай бұрын
@@Strawberryfreak Well yes but that's kinda besides the point. It's easy to just tell people to think more, but the thing is people might not know _what_ or _how to think._ There's a difference between telling people to just be critical and teaching people to think critically. That's where knowledge comes in. Knowing there's a significant difference between percentage increase and percentage point increase is something to be learned. Or knowing how much it matters how the data was derived and out of which group the percentage is drawn from. It's never just "think about it first", it's also realizing what there is to think about, what do we mean by the fact points given. Out of those specified definitions and the context, a "fact" means nothing at all. Not everybody, without being taught to, realizes this matters. It's one thing to be sceptical about a statistics in a title of a news article. It's a whole another thing to know that news headlines aren't statistics, that just because something was said, the reality of the matter is only revealed once you know the details. People also easily assume a moral value for pieces of trivial information. Just saying the rate of dropping out of studies has increased, for example, doesn't mean we're saying it's a bad thing. We aren't saying anything at all about whether it's good or bad with that piece of knowledge unless we specify why and justify such moral evaluation separately. This is also one of those things a lot of people don't necessarily know or realize to question. Categorical scepticism isn't necessarily smart either, and this idea of never trusting what we're being told instead of practicing curiosity and aiming to _know_ more is what has contributed to mistrust in media and authorities of information. It goes from "think first" to "don't trust at face value" to "don't trust media" to "we're being lied to and new information should be categorically rejected because authorities of information are by nature untrustworthy". No, the point isn't to be sceptical, it's to understand what it means to say certain things and why it matters how things are spoken about. Being sceptical for the sake of it paradoxically doesn't make people any less susceptible for being manipulated, in fact less so.
@themandownstairs4765
@themandownstairs4765 4 жыл бұрын
"1 in 20 people is the victim of a crime." "Which means 19 in 20 people are criminals." - random british show
@bickieditch9168
@bickieditch9168 4 жыл бұрын
red dwarf may be random but it sure as hell isn't a random show
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 4 жыл бұрын
@@bickieditch9168 It was actually Diane Morgan idk what the show was probably in the description to this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5imdpWch8d-Y5I
@Bulbophile
@Bulbophile 4 жыл бұрын
only in overly simplistic binary worlds
@ellamahley2682
@ellamahley2682 4 жыл бұрын
If you look in a dark ally, maybe
@jameswalker199
@jameswalker199 4 жыл бұрын
@@bickieditch9168 Red Dwarf? I thought it was BBC News they were talking about.
@wotershep4251
@wotershep4251 3 жыл бұрын
It’s like saying “ it’s easier to get into Harvard than a job at Walmart” - Walmart acceptance rate - 2.6% - Harvard acceptance rate - 5.2%
@Claricio
@Claricio 3 жыл бұрын
Walmart has a 2.6% job acceptance rate??
@njux1871
@njux1871 3 жыл бұрын
@@Claricio imagine like 1000 people a year applying for Walmart bc everyone can apply but Walmart only needs 3 workers
@rutchris
@rutchris 3 жыл бұрын
@caprice.t Yeah that's right, gotta look at the size of the sample, not only the proportion of the sample that's accepted into a job or a programme
@joaopaulokloecknerguimarae7031
@joaopaulokloecknerguimarae7031 3 жыл бұрын
@caprice.t One thing though. Its not easier, its just more likely. For the average person It would be easier to get tô work for Walmart, but since only people with a decent level of instruction apply to Harvard, its more likely that these people would succeed, but for a regular person It would be almost Impossible
@davidpiepgrass743
@davidpiepgrass743 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt Walmalt has a 2.6% acceptance rate, but it's not hard to imagine that out of all the Walmarts in the world, one of them somewhere has a 2.6% acceptance rate due to an overabundance of unskilled workers applying.
@karyoplasma
@karyoplasma 10 ай бұрын
The dog/animal with 4 legs explanation is amazing. It captures the essence of the fallacy so well and packs it into a tangible example.
@bird3713
@bird3713 10 ай бұрын
I ran into this recently with my job as an auditor. We evaluated the reasonableness of a company’s marketing expense by comparing it to revenue. The idea was that if their revenue went up, it was due to increased marketing expenses (I know there can be other factors too). Anyways, most months their expense hovered around 2% of revenue. One month it was 3.5%. My staff told me “that’s less than a 2% increase; it’s very trivial”. I said “that’s a 60% increase- it’s worth looking into”.
@loganmontgomery1955
@loganmontgomery1955 10 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s interesting how people think about percentages
@fivebooks8498
@fivebooks8498 3 ай бұрын
I spend the same on marketing each month and only make adjustments periodically. If sales are up one month it might be 5% of sales spent on marketing. If sales drop for a month it might be 8% spent. But I didn’t change what I spent.
@samsulh314
@samsulh314 5 жыл бұрын
Scariest thing about statistics is that the data doesn't have to be faked in order to tell whatever story you want to tell.
@sonaruo
@sonaruo 5 жыл бұрын
THAT WRONG you simple do not know statistics if i put half of your body in the freezer, and but half of you in the oven , and we make statistical analysis of your body temp we will get your body is in IDEAL temperature of course we know that you will die in this scenario does statistic lie?? NO the problem is YOU and you do not release what the number represents it not a problem of statisitc mate its a problem that people have not idea what the number represent
@AnkhArcRod
@AnkhArcRod 5 жыл бұрын
@@sonaruo That is rather harsh as OP did not say that statistics lie. He, in fact, stated that any story you want can be weaved by using the same data. You just decided to take the moral high ground when OP's claim was completely valid. I think everyone understands that statistics by itself is not the evil here. It is willful or unwitting use of incorrect or partial statistics that can potentially cause lot of harm.
@sonaruo
@sonaruo 5 жыл бұрын
@@AnkhArcRod sorry mate but the wording is plain wrong "whatever story you want to tell" no mate you cna nto use the math to say that blanc is white and white is black you simpel can not. but if the people do not know the numbers and the precise wording then people will assume something different because they consider the number represent something that it is not thats not a fault of statistic or that statistic said that to begin with example is the 100% and the 5% raise the wording is not the exact same its tiny different so you know how to use that number they give you since they are 2 different things the 100% is the rate of measurement while the 5% is the net increment. when you are given that the wording is slight different so you can say what it is and use them properly. now if the for the people the rate of changing something and the actual speed is the sam eis ther problem my math professor said this word of wisdom you think you do nto need math, what you teach today you will never use, but these numbers will be used in your every day life and because you will be unabme to understand what they represent they will maniip[ulate to do what ever they want. because he have books written , we teach something to people it does not mean that all people will understand it and comprehend it geee if that was truw 100% of the population will be scientist with doctor level and we will be going in another galaxy to settle down by now. and statistic is easy and real straight forward to do it if you want real massacre go is probabilities the majority of the problems are counter intuitive and many times to sovle them and be sure that its the correct one we end up brute force the problem
@HiArashi13
@HiArashi13 5 жыл бұрын
@@sonaruo And despite that, OP has over 9000% more likes than yours. Where does that put you?
@generalharness8266
@generalharness8266 5 жыл бұрын
@@sonaruo The OP of this thread basically said the same thing this video said. It is EASY to use statiscs to form a story that you want to happen, or you can use data to grant the impression you want by with holding context. Yes if you do not understand the data your more likely to belief it but if I said out of 1000 people who applied to a job with 400 openings 0% percent of women who applied where accepted. Its very easy to understand no women where given a job. This is the sort of situation that was talked about its miss leading and with holding info. If I told you 1000 people applied to become a male stripper and 1 women applied who did not get the job is very different intent of presentation to 100% of the women who applied did not get the job. I hate % with a passion its easy to mislead as a 100% increase is alarming but you can also say there was a 5% increase for the same data. I mean you can even use that term a 100% increase if the sample size simply decrease. It depends if you look at all the data or just the increase. Look at house prices in NZ and you will see a misrepresentation of what they are increasing by as its better to use the 5% but if you want to create a panic or a rush to do something use the 100%.
@fireballacc
@fireballacc 3 жыл бұрын
Since there are some people with less then 2 arms, the world average number of arms is somewhere below 2. Meaning if you have 2 arms you have an above average number of arms. Good for you!
@allanknox8216
@allanknox8216 2 жыл бұрын
You should see how the extra arm improves onanism.
@martimsalvador9186
@martimsalvador9186 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if there is some human born with like 20 arms, we would all have less arms than the average human
@Leo-ws3bp
@Leo-ws3bp 2 жыл бұрын
@@martimsalvador9186 well, assuming there's more than 18 people with 1 arm less than 2 (not even counting those without any arms) then the 1 person with 18 arms more than 2 wouldn't bring up the average enough to make average≥2
@Skelyboss
@Skelyboss 2 жыл бұрын
@@allanknox8216 wayyyy rarer than a missing arm
@Tvde1
@Tvde1 2 жыл бұрын
Since there are alive people, the world average of deaths per person is around 80%
@simarkarmani4034
@simarkarmani4034 10 ай бұрын
10:55 I love how "Losing in Fortnite" is described as a third factor.
@FrankBoston
@FrankBoston Жыл бұрын
I feel enlightened. I'm not stupid by any means, but I obviously lacked basically all sense of statistics. It's unfortunate I wasn't ever introduced to the subject throughout my schooling. I feel like this video will make me think so much more than I have been. And... knowledge is power. Thanks, so much.
@supersophisticated9943
@supersophisticated9943 10 ай бұрын
You seem so nice. I'd like to chat :)
@mikaelvirji5807
@mikaelvirji5807 10 ай бұрын
I feel like statistics should be a required class, over something like trigonometry. You’re not using that in life unless you’re in a math heavy field, but statistics are everywhere
@alcatraz2981
@alcatraz2981 9 ай бұрын
@@mikaelvirji5807Thankfully, where I’m from, it was covered in maths
@shievapretty7463
@shievapretty7463 8 ай бұрын
"I feel enlightened" is what I think after watching any Zack Star video
@foolishball9155
@foolishball9155 4 ай бұрын
Is statistics not a compulsory topic in mathematics there? Where do you live? In ours it was compulsory from I don't even remember when but I think it was middle school before we ever learned about trigs
@Seafalcon0007
@Seafalcon0007 5 жыл бұрын
KZbin occasionally gets the recommendations right.
@user-ut7wi1if9q
@user-ut7wi1if9q 5 жыл бұрын
Lol yes
@MiroslawHorbal
@MiroslawHorbal 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. This has earned a sub!
@billyusher4907
@billyusher4907 5 жыл бұрын
Only around 14.3% of the time though
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen 5 жыл бұрын
@@billyusher4907 76.3% of all statistics are made up.
@k.mertselvi7746
@k.mertselvi7746 5 жыл бұрын
Cant agree more
@deanmoncaster
@deanmoncaster 3 жыл бұрын
Dad "my daughter is pregnant and she's due in August" Target "we know".
@Kamoojaan
@Kamoojaan 3 жыл бұрын
what
@deanmoncaster
@deanmoncaster 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kamoojaan watch the video
@sidneycheney806
@sidneycheney806 3 жыл бұрын
That would be terrifying to hear.
@d6nkm9mes50
@d6nkm9mes50 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kamoojaan stupid
@mbradley274
@mbradley274 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe she was boinking Targets statistician
@ximenabenitez4013
@ximenabenitez4013 Жыл бұрын
If only my statistics professor taught like this, maybe I would have understood more. He always said something about "Only work with the data you are given", which works for school, but is obviously flawed in the real world (like in all of these examples)
@Scrungge
@Scrungge Жыл бұрын
6:38 One is in percent, the other in percentage points. Thought you would include that in the video. Because yes, not many people know the difference.
@hienable6933
@hienable6933 Жыл бұрын
I don't get it. Can you explain pls?
@Scrungge
@Scrungge Жыл бұрын
@@hienable6933 A difference between percentages is called percentage points. An invaluable concept if taking statistics serious.
@meganlauzonforest
@meganlauzonforest Жыл бұрын
Thanks for saying this ! I didn't know the difference and wanted to what was it :)
@joep2999
@joep2999 Жыл бұрын
@Hi Enable Percentage increase is based on what the value originally was and percentage points is based on how many percents was added. Let's say something went from 20% to 30% That's a 50% increase from where it was, and it went up by 10 percentage points. Hope that helps!
@sossololpipi9633
@sossololpipi9633 Жыл бұрын
you could just say difference in percentage
@nightmare_1337
@nightmare_1337 3 жыл бұрын
Food and water are overrated: you can live without them for the rest of your life
@alanandrade2083
@alanandrade2083 3 жыл бұрын
Night mare You right lol
@Creamworks
@Creamworks 3 жыл бұрын
You can also live the entire rest of your life without breathing. -Vsauce
@ElTurbinado
@ElTurbinado 3 жыл бұрын
if u give a man fire he'll be warm for a night but if u set a man on fire he'll be warm for the rest of his life
@SaurabhSingh-fe6lj
@SaurabhSingh-fe6lj 3 жыл бұрын
the people who passed by without liking this comment, should consider re-watching the video so that more brain cells can grow.
@Doomemdtrader
@Doomemdtrader 3 жыл бұрын
You can extend your life by consuming food and water. Fallacy: Eternal life
@digitalranger4259
@digitalranger4259 3 жыл бұрын
I took a statistics class in college. The textbook was literally called How To Lie With Statistics.
@davkrod
@davkrod 3 жыл бұрын
Liars can figure, and figures can lie. 😷🤧🙃😁
@aniksamiurrahman6365
@aniksamiurrahman6365 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact - the author of that book "Darrell Huff" was actually a tobacco industry lobbyist and that book was a part of that propaganda. You can check it here: statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2012/04/27/how-to-mislead-with-how-to-lie-with-statistics/
@CynicalOldDwarf
@CynicalOldDwarf 3 жыл бұрын
@@aniksamiurrahman6365 Was that the inspiration for the movie "Thank You For Smoking" or are the two unrelated?
@aniksamiurrahman6365
@aniksamiurrahman6365 3 жыл бұрын
@@CynicalOldDwarf I haven't seen the movie. But sounds like it's a goon one. I'll look into it and let u know.
@vaac3057670
@vaac3057670 3 жыл бұрын
Bill gates has that same book.
@serenityvalley9409
@serenityvalley9409 Жыл бұрын
The really sad thing is not just how easy it is to deceive other people using statistics, it's also how easy people unintentionally deceive themselves using statistics.
@mrnoedahl
@mrnoedahl 10 ай бұрын
Statistical probability should never be allowed in court. It has no bearing on anyone’s guilt or innocence. That is why we use witnesses or physical evidence. Great job my hillbilly friend.
@PeataPoeet
@PeataPoeet 10 ай бұрын
Witnesses aren't the most trustworthy source either
@mrnoedahl
@mrnoedahl 10 ай бұрын
@@PeataPoeet But they can be cross examined to see if their story holds up.
@tonyleukering8832
@tonyleukering8832 7 ай бұрын
Eyewitness testimony is, over all, is, far and away, the least reliable generally presented in criminal cases.
@tylerfitz2809
@tylerfitz2809 6 ай бұрын
yeah I think that it's now no longer allowed in court. There are so many ways to make it look like one thing and be a totally different thing. The more qualities you rack up, the less likely a specific person in a group is to match that description, but it still doesn't prove it *was* them, it proves it's unlikely it wasn't them. It feels dirty to put someone behind bars not because someone saw them do it, finger prints were found and they had intent to do it, but because it's unlikely that anyone else fitting the description of the eye witness(s) exists in that city. I feel like it goes against the "innocent until proven guilty" rule of the courts.
@mrnoedahl
@mrnoedahl 6 ай бұрын
@@tylerfitz2809 exactly
@bigZitronenschale
@bigZitronenschale 4 жыл бұрын
This should be the introduction of every statistics class
@MrWatermanx2
@MrWatermanx2 4 жыл бұрын
Youll be happy to know then that these examples are famous in the statistics world and actually *were* in the first few lessons of my probability theory course :)
@tommerker8063
@tommerker8063 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrWatermanx2 same, we didn't have the exact same examples, but the message was the same
@BartGibby
@BartGibby 4 жыл бұрын
stories are super common in marketing college classes... kinda old news actually. I went to college almost two decades ago.
@CC-bu2gv
@CC-bu2gv 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's how statistics can give you the power to lie, and how to use them to push your own agenda. Maybe they should teach this in highschool honestly.
@jimstoltzfus
@jimstoltzfus 4 жыл бұрын
It is, these are cliche examples that I heard in class years ago.
@Sandvink
@Sandvink 4 жыл бұрын
Statistics is the art of never having to say you’re wrong.
@Marinealver
@Marinealver 4 жыл бұрын
Statistics: 95% chance of winning, you should take this bet. *Takes the bet and lost Statistics: I said a 95% chance of winning not that you will win, I can't help the fact that you're a loser.
@Kasiarzynka
@Kasiarzynka 4 жыл бұрын
100% statisticians made at least one correct statement about statistics, which many non-statisticians never have. Therefore, statisticians are more trustworthy. Which means you really should trust a statistician you just met more than you should trust a non-statistician you have known for your whole life.
@harrytan5579
@harrytan5579 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kasiarzynka Many is a tricky word in statistics. A responsible statistician will not use this word in this context as "many" can be interpreted as any number greater than 100. Since a non-responsive statistician has a higher rate of using misleading statistics, I will not trust you here.
@81u9
@81u9 4 жыл бұрын
13 100 50 100
@andrewapsley7259
@andrewapsley7259 3 жыл бұрын
It's the "science" that knows every other science better than the scientists in those areas without knowing anything about the science or so some of my former bosses think.
@auroralanimations4731
@auroralanimations4731 Жыл бұрын
THIS is why studying math is so important! Makes me want to sign up for a statistics course...
@tasse0599
@tasse0599 9 ай бұрын
dew it
@lucazani2730
@lucazani2730 8 ай бұрын
Math is wonderful. Few things are more beautiful in life than math, pretty much nothing
@canyoupoop
@canyoupoop 6 ай бұрын
​@@lucazani2730let things better than math be epsilon>0....
@ghostmelon64
@ghostmelon64 2 ай бұрын
“It makes life 200% easier”
@TheCubanGamer101
@TheCubanGamer101 2 ай бұрын
It's been 11 months, how's statistics going?
@RCEASTMIDLANDS
@RCEASTMIDLANDS 10 ай бұрын
Using statistics in court worries me a little since people should be proven guilty, not assumed guilty based on statistical models that are below 100%.
@mikaelvirji5807
@mikaelvirji5807 10 ай бұрын
If the probability that the person is guilty isnt 100%, I say they go free.
@RCEASTMIDLANDS
@RCEASTMIDLANDS 10 ай бұрын
@@mikaelvirji5807 Things are rarely 100%, but if there's not a convincing case and evidence then I think statistics should not be used in an attempt to sway the jury.
@user-eb9jd7sr4p
@user-eb9jd7sr4p Ай бұрын
It can't be 100%. That is why they set the standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt".
@alfredthegreat5737
@alfredthegreat5737 4 жыл бұрын
How many people have died on Earth? Everyone ever. How many people have died on the Sun? Noone. Conclusion: The sun is safer than the Earth.
@thefurtherred765
@thefurtherred765 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a fallacy for this?
@jdinhuntsvilleal4514
@jdinhuntsvilleal4514 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, your first statement is OBVIOUSLY WRONG. If EVERYONE EVER has died on Earth -- who posted the video? Who's replying to you? Who, in fact, posted your comment?
@jdinhuntsvilleal4514
@jdinhuntsvilleal4514 3 жыл бұрын
@S J Yes, but what you WROTE was the EVERYONE that has EVER been on Earth, including those on it now, have died.
@DuffyHomoHabilis
@DuffyHomoHabilis 3 жыл бұрын
@@jdinhuntsvilleal4514 Well, he's right, he just posted in advance.
@saltypotatochip4707
@saltypotatochip4707 3 жыл бұрын
but some deaths have occurred in outer space
@boboonnoo2357
@boboonnoo2357 4 жыл бұрын
I love how he put "Losing in Fortnite" as a cause for bad grades and smoking.
@khanhsp
@khanhsp 4 жыл бұрын
Its legit. Losing makes you upset lol
@flavioryu5922
@flavioryu5922 4 жыл бұрын
@@khanhsp imagine starting smoking because you're upset lol
@hissingfaunaa
@hissingfaunaa 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine playing FORTNITE in 2020
@Pedro270707
@Pedro270707 4 жыл бұрын
@@hissingfaunaa oh yes, I never play games because I like them, just because they're popular /s
@gamermapper
@gamermapper 4 жыл бұрын
imagine not letting people enjoy Fortnite just because it's 2020
@chrrmin1979
@chrrmin1979 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I see statistical illiteracy and misrepresentation way too often
@MrProy33
@MrProy33 10 ай бұрын
I used to teach this material in one of my college classes. Glad to see people are still recognizing how important this early form of "targeted marketing" was to the future of internet ads.
@_HONK
@_HONK 3 жыл бұрын
100 percent of all air breathers die conclution: dont breath
@itwasthemilk9332
@itwasthemilk9332 3 жыл бұрын
sounds like a plan
@ivystarlight17
@ivystarlight17 3 жыл бұрын
100 percent of all non-air-breathers also die.
@Lares2K
@Lares2K 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivystarlight17 conclusion: breathe
@anidiot192
@anidiot192 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivystarlight17 this is because 100% of people who have drank water die. Conclusion: don't breathe or drink water
@ng_jr0096
@ng_jr0096 3 жыл бұрын
1 out of every 10 individuals can't spell Conclusion: You should learn to spell conclusion and not conclution PS. Its a joke don't get angry!
@STARDRIVE
@STARDRIVE 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: People who can swim are more likely to drown than people who can´t.
@aarontheperson6867
@aarontheperson6867 4 жыл бұрын
this is a good one
@kobakun584
@kobakun584 4 жыл бұрын
@@aarontheperson6867 not really
@aarontheperson6867
@aarontheperson6867 4 жыл бұрын
@@kobakun584 ok
@obviouslyanonymous
@obviouslyanonymous 4 жыл бұрын
AaronThePerson it’s alright, he’s probably just one of the swimmers who drowned
@theresalwaysanotherway3996
@theresalwaysanotherway3996 4 жыл бұрын
@@kobakun584 people who swim spend more time in water, leading to more people drowning. Not learning to swim makes you more likely to drown if thrown in water, but less likely to drown in your life.
@thomaslequesne5475
@thomaslequesne5475 8 ай бұрын
Keeping this in mind is very important, especially in the world of media. You've shown how differences in presentation can twist public perception of an event. Now add the arbitrary choice of which piece of information is covered, the wording as well as many other factors and you can be manipulated, on purpose or not, and end up believing something completely untrue without anyone having lied.
@leongorecki2718
@leongorecki2718 6 ай бұрын
A cool thing that my language (polish) has (and uses) that english really doesnt(that i know of) is having an established difference between "percentages" and "percantage points". You use the first one like multiplication so 5 percent + 50 percent[of 5] is 7.5% and the second one as adding 5 percent + 50 percentage points = 55%. This basically means that as long as you read the text accurately you wont be misled
@jimmeade2976
@jimmeade2976 5 жыл бұрын
My father once told me "Figures don't lie but liars can figure." Good video. Thank you!
@BribedJupiter
@BribedJupiter 5 жыл бұрын
go figure
@peteh6445
@peteh6445 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen your comments on other videos lol, they must have been good comments for me to remember
@gurvzz
@gurvzz 4 жыл бұрын
IM liker 200
@TheLoneBit
@TheLoneBit 4 жыл бұрын
Ooo. Yo daddy smart.
@controlequebrado4455
@controlequebrado4455 4 жыл бұрын
my father once told me the world was gonna roll me
@bt-5sovietlighttank416
@bt-5sovietlighttank416 4 жыл бұрын
BREAKING NEWS! Teenage pregancy rates drop by 100%!!!! after the age of 19!
@yonatanbeer3475
@yonatanbeer3475 4 жыл бұрын
19! years is longer than a human lifespan
@MagicGonads
@MagicGonads 4 жыл бұрын
The rates only halve?
@goyonman9655
@goyonman9655 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@christianosminroden7878
@christianosminroden7878 4 жыл бұрын
Magic Gonads Here‘s the thing: 100% of X is X. So if X increases by 100% (of X), it increases by X, so there‘s an additional X is added to the original X, which means that it was doubled. If X decreases by 100%, it decreases by X, so there‘s X subtracted from the original X, which means that it went to zero. Clearer now?
@Bless-the-Name
@Bless-the-Name 4 жыл бұрын
The comments in this one are hilarious because people are arguing statistics for 20 year olds who are no longer teenagers.
@acerniss
@acerniss 6 ай бұрын
This has just made me realize how easily I believe anything presented in a professional manner, and how easy it is to downright lie through a small omission of facts. It is truly scary.
@justinTime077
@justinTime077 Жыл бұрын
Not only are you the master of 90’s cable quality KZbin comedy gold, but you’re like the cool math teacher in the 90s that actually gets me to be enthused in stat.
@aurumvale9908
@aurumvale9908 4 жыл бұрын
did you know: since there are women pregnant at any given time the average number of skeletons inside a human body is slightly higher than 1
@SuperSox97
@SuperSox97 4 жыл бұрын
Most people also have an above average number of limbs.
@EvenTheDogAgrees
@EvenTheDogAgrees 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperSox97 Unless we also count the limbs inside pregnant women, in which case I'd need actual numbers before committing myself to an answer.
@retrorocket9951
@retrorocket9951 4 жыл бұрын
@@EvenTheDogAgrees you are forgetting that if anyone is missing limbs it brings the average under 4(2 arms, 2 legs) which means that anyone who has 2 arms and 2 legs than they have an above average number of limbs.
@EvenTheDogAgrees
@EvenTheDogAgrees 4 жыл бұрын
@@retrorocket9951 Like I said: _unless_ we count the limbs _inside_ pregnant women.
@retrorocket9951
@retrorocket9951 4 жыл бұрын
@@EvenTheDogAgrees ah sorry i thought you were saying that wouldn't be true unless we counted pregnant people. My mistake.
@motornaut
@motornaut 5 жыл бұрын
80% of this video was brilliant. The other half was mediocre
@kushalsb460
@kushalsb460 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@CoolMintMC
@CoolMintMC 4 жыл бұрын
Other half... Hold up. 🤚🏻🤔❓ Lol.
@hplovecraft3112
@hplovecraft3112 4 жыл бұрын
80% Other “half” ⭐️
@afkinpencil1682
@afkinpencil1682 4 жыл бұрын
/wooosh
@maxrequisite
@maxrequisite 4 жыл бұрын
So 10%?
@EclecticAnkylosaurus
@EclecticAnkylosaurus Жыл бұрын
I was YELLING at my phone screen when I heard of that first court case, how could an actual statistician/mathematician make such an elementary mistake
@Dlowr7
@Dlowr7 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome video Zach. I’m taking stats for engineers next term and you made me actually excited about it.
@NewAthanatov
@NewAthanatov 4 жыл бұрын
So what did I learn from this video? Losing in fortnite causes smoking and bad grades.
@LuneKidYT
@LuneKidYT 4 жыл бұрын
who even told you to play fortnite? just go for minecraft!
@kuljitminhas8707
@kuljitminhas8707 4 жыл бұрын
Fortnite Just freaking copies people they just freaking copied yandere simulator
@LuneKidYT
@LuneKidYT 4 жыл бұрын
@@kuljitminhas8707 in what exactly? i'm curious to know cuz i haven't played it ( and i'll never do)
@Lord_Volkner
@Lord_Volkner 4 жыл бұрын
Well ... at least now I know why I smoke and have bad grades ...
@Ardorstorm
@Ardorstorm 4 жыл бұрын
kuljit minhas lmao
@JovanLemon
@JovanLemon 4 жыл бұрын
"the woman lost her children due to natural causes, was accused of murdering them, was sent to jail for 3 years, received a lot of public backlash, and died of alcohol poisoning 4 years later" jesus christ, that is just terrible
@CalebPaulk
@CalebPaulk 4 жыл бұрын
That is why a jury shouldn't make a decision based off of circumstancial evidence alone. No one should be found guilty unless forensics show that they are guilty.
@kiselinaV
@kiselinaV 4 жыл бұрын
@@CalebPaulk The jury was fucking retarded, by doing the statistic, they disproved the child dying from SIDS, not proving the mother killed it. I just dont get it...
@we-are-electric1445
@we-are-electric1445 4 жыл бұрын
It's called British Justice
@Takkion
@Takkion 4 жыл бұрын
@@we-are-electric1445 It's not as bad as yank justice.
@iambiggus
@iambiggus 4 жыл бұрын
@@Takkion Last time i checked, Casey Anthony was tried in Florida.
@GeddyRC
@GeddyRC Жыл бұрын
Great video. I unfortunately know a lot of people who need to see this information, yet still argue statistics in ways that favor their own beliefs instead of challenge them. It’s frustrating for sure.
@mastick5106
@mastick5106 7 ай бұрын
When I taught college-level statistics back in the 80s, I had one class session titled "How to lie with statistics" that went into examples just like these of exactly how people would try to mislead them with improperly used statistics. One of the other ones I covered was color scale manipulation with "heatmap" style graphs that use colors to indicate values. For example, a graph showing temperatures can influence what you think is "hot" or "cold" just based on what temperature is chosen as the midpoint of the red-blue transition. Or, two graphs can be shown side-by-side that have different color scales to make similar patterns look different, or vice-versa.
@captaingreenhat
@captaingreenhat 2 жыл бұрын
I have a degree in statistics. You did a very good job explaining these nuisances and yet this is still only scratching the surface of how wonky and manipulative statistical techniques can be.
@RdeneckTech
@RdeneckTech 2 жыл бұрын
It is a really good start though. I can't seem to reach anyone that doesn't already mildly understand how a statistic is even brought into fruition, nevermind the why. This introduction on the topic will likely save me at least an hour of my next conversation when pointing out the way media covers current events. Such as the scamdemic and inflation, or our country's spending vs GDP. These media outlets utilize these same techniques to sway people into voting for Representatives that are going to push legislation that, at the core, doesn't make any sense.
@danielreshenterprises6174
@danielreshenterprises6174 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have your credentials, but I do have 6 undergraduate and 6 graduate credits in statistics. I agree with you that David did a good job but there are so many other ways people lie with statistics. One of the big ones is when a single study comes out to prove a point and it's taken as gospel. Most people aren't aware of the need for an independently replicated study that produces the same results, they just assume the solo study is valid.
@RdeneckTech
@RdeneckTech 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielreshenterprises6174 well said. I agree 100% with the notion that one study without peer review is opinion, not science. The great thing about science is that findings are open to be replicated and if there are different results, we can all learn why. The best question and, in my opinion, the beginning and demise of our mortal selves, starts and ends, with the question, "WHY?".
@RdeneckTech
@RdeneckTech 2 жыл бұрын
@M M that is a very good point. This is where intellectualism and understanding of where the "peer review"originated from, comes into play. I preached to my son constantly, who recently turned 18 years of age, that the device that is in his pocket has unlimited knowledge. Back in my day we had to consult the encyclopedia Britannica. It is much easier today to learn about something, anything, that we don't already know.
@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679
@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679 2 жыл бұрын
@@RdeneckTech DING!
@FrancisTheWalnut
@FrancisTheWalnut 3 жыл бұрын
The Sally Clark case is so sad. Imagine losing both of your infant children because of something you cant control- and then getting sent to prison and demonized for what happened to you.
@mycatphsyco
@mycatphsyco 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope that Sally and all of her immediate family members genetics were taken into account because rare genetic disorders can be very prevalent and over represented in a family with a faulty genetics
@skinnyboyasian4847
@skinnyboyasian4847 2 жыл бұрын
This video will probably definitely help you irl
@dathunderman4
@dathunderman4 2 жыл бұрын
I just don’t understand how a doctor couldn’t see how those two events could be reasonably dependent, not independent. I have little medical education, but even I could assume immediately that someone who gave birth to a dead child once may reasonably have some type of health condition that could lead to a second problematic childbirth.
@GuacJohnson
@GuacJohnson 2 жыл бұрын
@@dathunderman4 well the prosecution was operating under the assumption of guilt: they found a doc who would say what they wanted and didn't waste time trying to see if it actually held up scrutiny
@fredbassett6819
@fredbassett6819 2 жыл бұрын
The case of Sally Clark sounds very similar to a now proven link of genetic defect causing death in very young. 60 Minutes Australia aired a similar incident of a woman, jailed so far, for 18yrs, her surname Folbigg, last night 29Aug2021. She lost 4 young children. She has lost her latest appeal based on the statistics rather than the new scientific study.
@Bigmoney703
@Bigmoney703 Жыл бұрын
The whole time I was thinking how the first few court examples given must be wrong... happy you were able to share the correct interpretations later
@yofaramuslihah7583
@yofaramuslihah7583 7 ай бұрын
This is actually a very touching and interesting video. Dropping off a comment to let you know that your video made its way to my graduate school class discussion. Cheers!
@sujalgvs987
@sujalgvs987 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the study was Colgate employees asking some dentists "do you recommend Colgate?" And 80% of them saying "yes" and the rest saying "no."
@eleanorcarpenter37
@eleanorcarpenter37 3 жыл бұрын
*slides money to the dentist* you sure?
@SeppelSquirrel
@SeppelSquirrel 2 жыл бұрын
It's worse than that because they have to manufacture "80% recommend colgate" because nobody will believe "100% recommend colgate"
@garygarypov5060
@garygarypov5060 2 жыл бұрын
in the States they say "4 out of 5" which is probably a little clearer...and probably required by law
@hannalowercase5928
@hannalowercase5928 2 жыл бұрын
@@garygarypov5060 in brazil they say 9 out of 10 lol i guess it depends on the country (how they go about it)
@kamiturtlegaming7546
@kamiturtlegaming7546 2 жыл бұрын
@@hannalowercase5928 same for the uk, its 9 out of 10, my data suggests that 195% of countries follow that format
@hafsaabid7454
@hafsaabid7454 5 жыл бұрын
I thought you said headlights instead of head lice, really got me concerned how people could think it was healthy
@gurvzz
@gurvzz 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@4400seriesFAN
@4400seriesFAN 4 жыл бұрын
#metoo
@pardisranjbarnoiey6356
@pardisranjbarnoiey6356 4 жыл бұрын
same here!
@AlexE5250
@AlexE5250 4 жыл бұрын
Using your headlights is unhealthy. Statistically speaking, people who use their headlights at night are more likely to die from disease or illness than people who drive at night without headlights.
@sherryflavour3791
@sherryflavour3791 4 жыл бұрын
Yeahh
@rahuljerome7230
@rahuljerome7230 Ай бұрын
Watched it years later and was still helpful great job on just giving information while keeping the video not biased
@sandman0829
@sandman0829 3 ай бұрын
Dude, what an incredible eye opening video. Truly impressive and refreshing how much you got through while keeping it easy to understand and totally engaging beginning to end. Really liked how you used simple examples to demonstrate the concepts beforehand. Most of these statistical concepts we generally already have an intuition for, but just need to be laid out via familiar examples.
@duanehood8031
@duanehood8031 3 жыл бұрын
Three statisticians went duck hunting. When a duck flew overhead the first one shot and missed 3 feet to the left, the second one shot and missed 3 feet to the right, and the third statistician yelled "We got him!"
@josemou6172
@josemou6172 3 жыл бұрын
Then how did the 2nd one miss?
@user-gt2ds9lr2g
@user-gt2ds9lr2g 3 жыл бұрын
Because the average of the two shots was zero feet, or right on the target
@deanmoncaster
@deanmoncaster 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-gt2ds9lr2g I can't believe you had to explain that. Lol
@luxlux1662
@luxlux1662 4 жыл бұрын
People should understand the difference between "percent" and "percentage point". 5 in 100 increasing to 10 in 100 is a 100 percent increase, and also an increase of 5 percentage points.
@ex0stasis72
@ex0stasis72 4 жыл бұрын
I liked because I found your comment helpful. I was trying to remember how to say it. But I disagree with the notion that since people should know the difference, that gives us free rein to use percent changes without also specifying what the percentage point change is. Just because some people are ignorant doesn't mean it's right to take advantage of it.
@LuneKidYT
@LuneKidYT 4 жыл бұрын
i didn't know the name for it until i passed by this comment , so thanks for reminding me =)
@Kalkiara
@Kalkiara 4 жыл бұрын
this is so important, I was looking for someone pointing it out
@bobbycone2
@bobbycone2 4 жыл бұрын
@@ex0stasis72 go tell that to all the marketing departments that use this garbage to increase sales and make money for their company. I'm sure they'll be willing to stop because you feel it's unfair to all the idiots out there
@bobbycone2
@bobbycone2 4 жыл бұрын
Volume speaks volumes.......
@orpheuscreativeco9236
@orpheuscreativeco9236 Жыл бұрын
This is rather important for the public to understand when ingesting the news 👍 Thanks for this! ✌️
@SaaRbn25
@SaaRbn25 Жыл бұрын
One of the most informative videos I've seen this year 👏🏽
@Shoes8969
@Shoes8969 2 жыл бұрын
Within my statistics class in college we actually had to identify misleading charts and graphs and explain how they were designed to mislead. I saw graphs that were upside down, with offset scales, and even the use of specific colors to elicit a response.
@rivershen8199
@rivershen8199 2 жыл бұрын
That's pretty low level manipulating that literally a 7th grader could tell was fishy.
@jamieboer3466
@jamieboer3466 2 жыл бұрын
@@rivershen8199 Whats crazy though, is that it still works even on people who know that.
@DolphinsPlayingInAquaMoonlight
@DolphinsPlayingInAquaMoonlight 2 жыл бұрын
So...AI have been removing my comment several times now because of certain words. So for this comment to make any sense, I need to clarify what I mean by certain words: LowVibb19 = that thing that is spreading around the world that people are shit scared of even though it has a 99% survival rate. Max = That thing that they want you to take into your bloodstream so that a certain industry can earn billiions of dollars even though it doesn't even work as intended. Now here's my comment: Here's another one for ya: You can also cheat with the statistics with how you define something. For example: They don't define a person as being fully Max'ed until two weeks after they've had the 2nd LowVibb19 Max. So anyone who gets seriously injured or die right after the first Max or within the first two weeks after the 2nd Max, will be defined as "un Max iated" in the statistics. So all the hundreds of thousands and maybe millions of people world wide who have been seriously injured or died from the LowVibb19 Max will not be counted in the statistics. Clever, huh? I personally know several people this has happened to.
@dreugh424
@dreugh424 2 жыл бұрын
@@DolphinsPlayingInAquaMoonlight This isn't statistics, it's a bait
@Nicler452
@Nicler452 2 жыл бұрын
@@DolphinsPlayingInAquaMoonlight Thats the dumbest shit i have heard in a while tbh
@HairyGhostbear
@HairyGhostbear 4 жыл бұрын
Birthdays are healthy: the more you have of them, the older you will get
@feelesh
@feelesh 4 жыл бұрын
Birthdays are unhealthy. The more you have the closer you are to dying.
@abhaysreeram978
@abhaysreeram978 4 жыл бұрын
Agent J yes, lets measure the worth of a life by counting the number of birthdays celebrated. and what feelesh meant was that the same data looks very different if viewed thru a different lens
@fade2008
@fade2008 4 жыл бұрын
@Agent J you can't remember if you're dead (The dark humor has gotten to me)
@feelesh
@feelesh 4 жыл бұрын
@@abhaysreeram978 Spot on. Agent J has to post garbage on here because the schools are closed.
@thezyreick4289
@thezyreick4289 4 жыл бұрын
Neither are you, after the heat death of the universe all life will cease to exist
@Larsbor
@Larsbor 11 ай бұрын
🎉 This video is a true example of the impotance of getting the whole storey, and not stop in the beginning and make fast decisions. 😊
@wf.i.7260
@wf.i.7260 10 ай бұрын
Very informative video. I want to think that I'm open to view things from different perspectives and not judge too soon. I knew most of what you said about statistics and it's a very dangerous tool that can mislead a majority of people.
@MikeCasey311
@MikeCasey311 2 жыл бұрын
I had an Electrical Engineering professor who said that “graphs with suppressed zeros should be made illegal.” You have shown why professor Crosno was correct,👍
@heathbarzforpresident
@heathbarzforpresident 2 жыл бұрын
my temptation is to say “absolutely yes” but i think we might be better off trying to explain this phenomenon to as many people as possible because the people who are committed to lying might find a way around it if we make it illegal lol
@andresff0
@andresff0 Жыл бұрын
Man I teach Excel. And for some reason Excel automatically sets other number different than zero in bar charts. The user has to perform some extra steps just to make the bar chart look like a real comparison.
@aguyontheinternet8436
@aguyontheinternet8436 Жыл бұрын
I think it was just cause he was too old to deal with that crap
@spost1986
@spost1986 Жыл бұрын
It depends SOOO much on context, though. If you were showing a graph of a person’s body temperature with vs without medication, starting the graph at 0 would make no sense because you would barely be able to tell a difference of 4 degrees, even though that can mean the difference between a mild fever and someone needing hospitalization.
@MikeCasey311
@MikeCasey311 Жыл бұрын
@@spost1986 excellent point. 👍👍
@Pseudo___
@Pseudo___ 3 жыл бұрын
Person A: "hmmm lotion and vitamins she might be pregnant " Person B: "Yeah, that and the pregnancy test that was purchased."
@Alchatraaz938
@Alchatraaz938 3 жыл бұрын
Theres a lot of people who purchase pregnancy tests that end up not being pregnant. Prenatal vitamins might actually correlate better since people who are trying to get pregnant or know they are pregnant purchase them.
@officergreg1318
@officergreg1318 3 жыл бұрын
Zachary Walter it was a joke lol
@tijmenstorm6921
@tijmenstorm6921 3 жыл бұрын
@@officergreg1318 Yeah, for sure. It still missed the point that was made in the video though. The guy was talking about women that already knew they were pregnant and how shopping patterns might reveal who they are. Women that already know they're pregnant don't buy pregnancy tests. Still, I like the joke.
@jessh2903
@jessh2903 3 жыл бұрын
Or that they stop buying proud products
@notareallin620
@notareallin620 3 жыл бұрын
@@Alchatraaz938 Good to know
@oboealto
@oboealto 3 ай бұрын
I love a good rollercoaster video. Thanks for sharing!
@liamp487
@liamp487 Жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I've ever watched! Eye opening!
@ScrambledAndBenedict
@ScrambledAndBenedict 3 жыл бұрын
The whole thing reminds me of a quote a friend whose into this sort of thing told me once. "Nobody who wants you to think a certain way ever tells you the whole story"
@epauletshark3793
@epauletshark3793 3 жыл бұрын
Context is everything.
@Christoff070
@Christoff070 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair though, it would take too long to tell the whole story of most things, and you're assuming the person you're speaking to is educated and aware enough of both sides already
@ScrambledAndBenedict
@ScrambledAndBenedict 2 жыл бұрын
@@Christoff070 The real trick isn't to lie to people. The real trick is to get people so emotionally invested in what you're saying that they'll believe in it even when faced with conflicting evidence that is true OR false. You can pretty easily get people wound up into what you're selling without lying, too. You just need a couple half-truths and a superficial comparison or two.
@GuacJohnson
@GuacJohnson 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScrambledAndBenedict the political grifters of the world know this well
@jacksdvdslewis2222
@jacksdvdslewis2222 2 жыл бұрын
Your remark indicates to me that "Nobody" wants me to thing a certain way
@MrPokoloco
@MrPokoloco 4 жыл бұрын
It’s almost like the context of data is removed on purpose to generate a narrative that looks better for a particular group. It’s a weird world where people both don’t believe in numbers but vow by numbers when it’s convenient.
@BlacksmithTWD
@BlacksmithTWD 4 жыл бұрын
Most if it boils down to the fact that most people are not mathematicians, but also don't want to seem dumb by admitting they didn't learn enough about mathematics to understand what the numbers actually mean. if people would worry less about what they seem to be and start to worry more about what they actually are, this might chance, I doubt it will be any time soon.
@BlacksmithTWD
@BlacksmithTWD 4 жыл бұрын
*change
@tkoch7503
@tkoch7503 4 жыл бұрын
One of the troubles there though is the hired gun. In the video example the prosecution was able to hire a mathematical gunslinger to argue their case for them. Either he was incompetent or dishonest in doing so. The defense was apparently unable to find a gunslinger of their own to explain the problems with the prosecution's argument. Not everybody's lawyer happens to date an expert. Whatever else I did with my degree in math, I was resolved that I did not want to be a gunslinger for some corporation (or think tank with an agenda). Yet doubtless I might have made a better living as a gunslinger and be highly regarded in society. I might even be able to tell myself that I was shooting on the side of justice.
@chaitanyar6609
@chaitanyar6609 4 жыл бұрын
@@BlacksmithTWD This is part of the problem definitely. At the same time, there is also a large element of confirmation bias as OC says. If it supports our narrative or fits our worldview, it's extremely credible and transparent. If not, we find 1,000 things to criticize about it.
@alecu5885
@alecu5885 4 жыл бұрын
yea almost
@adriancollins95
@adriancollins95 5 ай бұрын
You’ve explained everything extremely clearly & gave really good examples. Thank you
@ajaygill7744
@ajaygill7744 8 ай бұрын
Damn bro. Opened my eyes wide apart with these. Thanks for the video
@j_lemy
@j_lemy 5 жыл бұрын
I was sooo confused when he started saying people who had head lights were healthier... Then I saw the word "head lice" appear on my screen and felt really stupid.
@Illianor123
@Illianor123 5 жыл бұрын
However people who own cars (thus have headlights) are probably wealthier than those who can't afford cars and wealthier people can then also afford medicine etc.
@josephr6932
@josephr6932 5 жыл бұрын
But was that really causation or just correlation?
@rdooski
@rdooski 5 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing but it was the people being lit by the headlights who were healthier.
@darvish2776
@darvish2776 5 жыл бұрын
SAME
@dmoneyswagg64
@dmoneyswagg64 5 жыл бұрын
Illianor123 you must not travel much. Most people don't own cars and managed to hit 80+ fairly easily. There's literally no correlation between being owning a car and the potential state of health of a person.
@mnkyfly
@mnkyfly 3 жыл бұрын
This brings a whole new meaning to the name “Target”
@caroline6218
@caroline6218 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@BigSmella
@BigSmella 3 жыл бұрын
\m/ !!!
@someguy007
@someguy007 3 жыл бұрын
omL!!!!! I will never see Target the same way again, after this comment. I might even stop shopping there.😭
@onyiturner5345
@onyiturner5345 2 жыл бұрын
Pin this comment! That’s clever!
@aphenine
@aphenine 2 жыл бұрын
@@someguy007 What the big tech companies do with your data nowadays makes Target look cute and slow.
@ashannahensley3288
@ashannahensley3288 2 ай бұрын
This was a pretty fun video to watch. Thanks for making it.
@troutrl5669
@troutrl5669 8 ай бұрын
this is the kind of stuff I fall for all the time without a second thought so after this video i'm gonna be more careful when I see statistics
@sliphere011
@sliphere011 2 жыл бұрын
For court cases. Statistics should only be used as supplementary evidence to actual hard evidence. It's terrifying to hear or believe that entire cases were set guilty purely on statistics.
@_jojo11
@_jojo11 2 жыл бұрын
Hard agree.
@Eclypso02
@Eclypso02 2 жыл бұрын
If there is any hard evidence proving guilt/innocence in the first place, then why bother with statistics ?
@anonymoususer638
@anonymoususer638 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eclypso02 proving guilt has to be 99% beyond any reasonable doubt. Sometimes statistics can push it over the boundary. It's all about convincing the jury.
@nadirqg
@nadirqg 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eclypso02 Because you don't know what the defense will say regarding the proof. Statistics can make the defense tougher, but I don't think anyone should use statistics as the only argument of guilt.
@jameseverett4976
@jameseverett4976 2 жыл бұрын
Or "science", the next most misleading source of information. Science is always changing and updating, and when people get the idea in their heads that "science" is a hard-core, reliable vault of absolute certainty, they turn it into tyrannical dictators.
@alexitanguay
@alexitanguay 4 жыл бұрын
MrBeast: BUYING ALL OF TARGET'S LOTION IN 100 LOCATIONS Statistician : WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@lukedavies2406
@lukedavies2406 4 жыл бұрын
Alexi what?
@holytemplar2424
@holytemplar2424 4 жыл бұрын
@@lukedavies2406 Did you like youir own comment
@ginoyesano5649
@ginoyesano5649 4 жыл бұрын
@@lukedavies2406 Maybe you don't know, but mrBeast is a popular rich youtuber who buys a lot of random stuff and gives money away like crazy
@Rugg-qk4pl
@Rugg-qk4pl 4 жыл бұрын
it's called an outlier. . .
@ginoyesano5649
@ginoyesano5649 4 жыл бұрын
@@bk-sl8ee You replied to the wrong person, but good one xD
@leocarmopereira
@leocarmopereira Жыл бұрын
Good work, Zach!
@EnchantedGardenGnome
@EnchantedGardenGnome 6 ай бұрын
Woah!!! Thank you for this! This was informative.
@thealexandrios
@thealexandrios 2 жыл бұрын
"Figures don't lie, but liars figure" - Mark Twain
@higuy1324
@higuy1324 2 жыл бұрын
@@aligator7181 ?
@thetroll7841
@thetroll7841 2 жыл бұрын
@@aligator7181 You can divide the fraction itself. If you don't convert it into decimal you should be fine. Do you know a way that 1/3 could actually be divided exactly using numbers and symbols that represent actual mathematics vs those that simply show that it divides in a certain way. (sorry if the way I phrased this is wonky. It's 2am here.)
@Kaylin_h
@Kaylin_h 2 жыл бұрын
@El Caranaoi Aren't Mark Twain's quotes just the best?
@fccgrnp2968
@fccgrnp2968 2 жыл бұрын
@@aligator7181 your logic is like a flatearthbeliver's XD Amusing bytheway, no bad meaning. I really enjoyed to read your words. If u cut something into half and isn't a very same any kind of amount after, u was not cut it half. Simple like that. The problem is that u major to human imperfection. Should not. 0.3333 (3 to infinitive) * 3 = 1 Your calculator knows that. There is a video about at Veritasium chanel in some math theme one
@fccgrnp2968
@fccgrnp2968 2 жыл бұрын
@@aligator7181 and u keep on major to human imperfection... ;) How can your calculator give a correct answer? Two steps to check it 1. 1/3 2. Result * 3 Result? 1 Just because we can't do something it doesn't mean it's impossible I gave a source Check it out Well explained by competent ppl I save some time and search the exact name of the video, sec
@zchettaz
@zchettaz 3 жыл бұрын
"High school dropouts have *doubled* from 5% to 10% this year, bringing the total to 2." 60% of the time, it works everytime.
@cheesemccheese5780
@cheesemccheese5780 3 жыл бұрын
anchorman?
@michaelogunbayo5344
@michaelogunbayo5344 3 жыл бұрын
There are 20 people in your high school?
@Ignirium
@Ignirium 3 жыл бұрын
"the doctor say he's got a 50-50 chance of living, though there's only a 10% chance of that"
@zchettaz
@zchettaz 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ignirium I've heard that before, what show is that from? A 10% chance of a 50/50 chance would make it a 5% chance, right?
@Ignirium
@Ignirium 3 жыл бұрын
@@zchettaz Naked Gun 33 1/3! the Original joke before Anchorman made theirs - i reckon they knew about it.
@meryamle6270
@meryamle6270 5 ай бұрын
This was amazing!! Please make more videos like this one😍😍
@duongphan5058
@duongphan5058 Жыл бұрын
Wow, very persuasive examples. Good work!
@wengel_eth
@wengel_eth 3 жыл бұрын
The average person has less than two hands.
@JonathanLyons7
@JonathanLyons7 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't "the average person" similar to "a randomly selected person"? Would a way to create the same effect be "the average number of a person's hands is less than two" or do you have something better?
@khalilrahme5227
@khalilrahme5227 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonathanLyons7 "a randomly selected person " is the most common value, also known as Mode. The average is just compiling and comparing, most people have 2 hands, then you have a small amount of people that have 1 hand so the result would be something like 1.993 (I'm making up the number and also taking the possiblity of having more hands rather than less out of the equation as I assume that is at least less common). Which technically is less than 2.
@khalilrahme5227
@khalilrahme5227 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonathanLyons7 so if out of 20 students, everyone gets a 50/100 then the one person gets a 0, the average would be 47.5, technically less than 50. The example given by the previous user highlights an extreme case of this
@nickd5158
@nickd5158 3 жыл бұрын
The median number of hands is 2.
@KeeganIdler
@KeeganIdler 3 жыл бұрын
The average person has an above average number of hands
@Matthew_Troll
@Matthew_Troll 4 жыл бұрын
New study shows that on average, every human has one fallopian tube
@samuelisaac2984
@samuelisaac2984 4 жыл бұрын
This statistic is wrong, since in fact, most people don't have any fallopian tubes, except for Fallopian Georg, who has 8 billion in his possession. This makes him an outlier, and he shouldn't be counted.
@minutenreis
@minutenreis 4 жыл бұрын
@@samuelisaac2984 just thats how statistics can work, thats why they can be interpreted pretty easily to proof whatever you want to proof; and for such statements its irrelevant if its an outlier or anything and it is still correct; like you said "shouldn't" be counted, but that does not mean, that he won't be counted
@mollytaylor8122
@mollytaylor8122 3 жыл бұрын
@@minutenreis r/whoooosh buddy
@greerfried6894
@greerfried6894 3 жыл бұрын
@@mollytaylor8122 r/itswooooshwith4osand1h
@BewegteBilderrahmen
@BewegteBilderrahmen 3 жыл бұрын
On average people have less than 2 legs.
@evelynn1173
@evelynn1173 4 ай бұрын
I used statistics to find your video. I looked at the first 4 videos in my youtube and searched until the next one seemed even better and this was it. And so far this searching method reccomended to me by a different video has produced a very nice time.
@Sydney_2011
@Sydney_2011 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Depending on the intelligence or education of your audience, you’re going to get vastly different answers. That in itself just shows how important communication is when delivering statistics, because if your data is communicated towards the lowest common denominator, then you should simplify the statistics and state it in the easiest way to understand, not the most accurate number itself.
@thevfxwizard7758
@thevfxwizard7758 4 жыл бұрын
A man once brought a bomb onto a plane because the chance of there being 2 bombs on a plane is astronomical.
@salimchahine8324
@salimchahine8324 4 жыл бұрын
LOL this comment should have the most likes 😂😂
@thevfxwizard7758
@thevfxwizard7758 4 жыл бұрын
Salim Chahine my stats teacher told me that and I never forgot.
@danielzaiser
@danielzaiser 4 жыл бұрын
This is the safest way to travel
@BY-sh6gt
@BY-sh6gt 4 жыл бұрын
@@danielzaiser how
@flavioryu5922
@flavioryu5922 4 жыл бұрын
Ok this is top comment
@edwardlucas3575
@edwardlucas3575 2 жыл бұрын
During a staff meeting, one of my managers complained that the number of performance appraisals she was expected to write had doubled over the prior year. The other managers looked shocked until I agreed with her and said "Yes, it has doubled. Now you do two instead of one". We all had a good laugh.
@Kevin-cy2dr
@Kevin-cy2dr 2 жыл бұрын
Lol,hope you didn't get fired for that.
@jcsjcs2
@jcsjcs2 2 жыл бұрын
I hope it was because she got a second employee and not because she has to do two appraisals instead of one for each employee.
@edwardlucas3575
@edwardlucas3575 2 жыл бұрын
@@jcsjcs2 It was a second employee under her supervision.
@f_USAF-Lt.G
@f_USAF-Lt.G 2 жыл бұрын
One of statistic's better uses is in the leadership preformance algorithm that includes the skill "sets" as productivity multipliers... 😁
@lquezada914
@lquezada914 Жыл бұрын
So I started listening to for the laughs and some how ended up learning very valuable information. Your on to something.
@goranallasson4856
@goranallasson4856 8 ай бұрын
This was one of the best videos I seen. I love statistic and it was intresting to hear about how you can miss use it. Because I think many dosen't think about this
@max-hw2ir
@max-hw2ir 4 жыл бұрын
I got a colgate ad in the middle of this 😂
@elmerwilber3308
@elmerwilber3308 4 жыл бұрын
.
@KaigaKarasuma
@KaigaKarasuma 4 жыл бұрын
100% of ads recommend Colgate!
@LavaCanyon
@LavaCanyon 4 жыл бұрын
Was there ads in the middle of the video?
@teese1630
@teese1630 4 жыл бұрын
brush your teeth my nigga, google home can smell your breath foo. also there is an pluggin could y0tub3 @d8l0ck3r spell this 1ee7 phrase in your browesers plugin market place search box and and install it your browser
@TheKlyn10
@TheKlyn10 4 жыл бұрын
I thought he said headlights not head lice. Which confused me for a while.
@77smp
@77smp 4 жыл бұрын
Well headlights are healthy. Specifically when using vehicles in the dark
@stug6974
@stug6974 4 жыл бұрын
When he brought up the Middle Ages, I had this weird image of medieval knights in full plate armor with pop-up headlights attached to their helmets.
@ellamahley2682
@ellamahley2682 4 жыл бұрын
me too
@RonnieLowry
@RonnieLowry 4 жыл бұрын
same
@Pauly421
@Pauly421 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was like uhhh wut kind of nonsense is this now??
@JelliestOfBeanz
@JelliestOfBeanz 4 ай бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH for making this video!!! I am a huge nerd, and seeing someone finally explain in detail why you can't always trust the statistics, or at least the way they are presented is so helpful!! I am sick and tired of seeing people misinterpret statistics, and I really think stuff like this should be taught in schools as a mandatory class.
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