This is the Worst Mechanic in all of Mythic+ Season 1 The War Within

[@dantedante8837]

its like when you are on your way home from a long day at work and you are sitting there stuck in traffic and watching your free time slipping away just like that

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@dantedante8837 haha ya and you are trying to get home before a certain time!

[@timhundhausen1386]

"You know what Court of Stars RP really needed? Some area denial!", said nobody ever

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@timhundhausen1386 haha

[@jani14jani]

That rogue literally vanished. He is role playing his class to the max.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@jani14jani haha

[@MrCattlehunter]

I especially like when they get desynched from the server somehow and start teleporting around to kick out people who are nowhere close to their circle.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@MrCattlehunter ya saw that one myself as well.

[@Impuracle]

Or on our way to the third hidden objective when we ascend the tall stairway and the ground level-patrol's circle Z-axis clips into the stairs we're on top of. Fun!

[@DeltachaosTV]

Agree. Was fine in mechagon if there is always a clear path, but this is just a bad copy of that

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@DeltachaosTV ya this is really just nonsense.

[@nthnthms1212]

The music goes so well with this part LOL

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

hah it really does!

[@mikolajdabrowski1415]

On +14 and higher this gets even better - most classes die from this damage if they get caught by one of the guards. Combine this with their snap/desync and suddenly they teleport and catch 2-3 people, awesome stuff.

[@belisarian6429]

It would be nice if they nerfed damage of it so you could use it as teleport.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

I actually love this solution.

[@belisarian6429]

@@heythereguysitsMetro Yea I think M+ should support creativity like this, thinking outside the box. One time I got caught by one of these patrols after killing 3th one and I maybe got to 4th one faster (maybe did not measured it). Maybe with defensive it would be possible to survive it on higher keys?

[@wowcnmovie]

One of them cornered me for about 30 seconds

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@wowcnmovie ya really annoying.

[@belisarian6429]

I wonder if improvisation like "jump into it to teleport yourself into start of maze and go mob that is usually done as last" would be worth it. I mean sometimes it feels like after you kill 3rd one then jumping into this to teleport yourself to start is fastest way to get to 4th one, but I have not measured it.

[@wowcnmovie]

@@belisarian6429 I was low on health and no food, everyone was running around. So didn’t work for me that time

[@Rattja]

After doing this a few times I realized that the best option is to just go around if I see that mob walking either down the stairs or towards the stairs like in this clip. If he is there, then there is nothing blocking the other way. Unless you are sure you can make it through the gap by the entrance to the building before he gets there, it's just not worth it.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

Where abouts do you mean? Like you just head to the right side second?

[@Rattja]

@@heythereguysitsMetro No, I mean if that pale priest that blocked you is in the location as shown in this clip after killing the eye of the queen mob, you'll have to be very fast to get ahead of it before the window closes. As soon as you see that, or it coming down the stairs, just head right and up the middle instead. You still go for the same mob next, but it will be much faster than waiting for it to pass. The only thing that can block the path through the middle is that priest, so if you see him down there, the middle is clear and you can make that decision right away.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@Rattja got it, good tip there thanks.

[@BigDavey2Chainz]

It is absolutely beyond me that they thought this would be a fun and engaging experience. They may aswell of thrown in a walking escort to really drive the boredom home on it.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

Ya I mean I don't think they did. That's the problem. It was made to fit a theme in normal mode with no consideration for M+ clearly.

[@tall1oN]

Only did it 3 times: 4 weeks ago +7 depleted, 2 weeks ago +6 timed, 2 days ago +8 timed. i am currently at 2530 and "want" to do it at +10 before going into any +11 but i struggle to find any motivation to queue this. i am lucky that i can still run NW and SV +10 before trying this shit.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

Gotta tackle it eventually. It's a big mistake to avoid a dungeon like that because by the time you do it you will be way behind others expectations of your knowledge and that might cause tension or worse.

[@hey_brandon]

watching them get hit after waiting 30 seconds 🤣 this part alone keeps me from doing this dungeon more than once a week, if that.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@hey_brandon ya that part is hilarious.

[@claricestarling9629]

this made me LMAO bc this always happens to me. I'm glad to know its not just me

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

Ya, super annoying.

[@metsfan1932]

Knew the first time I ran this place on the first day of the expansion that this part was going to be absolutely god awful on M+ and big surprise, here we are.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

Ya sadly it's a bad dungeon for mythic plus.

[@joaoburger8640]

Theyve launched 8 new dungeons, managed to pick the 2 most bugged for S1 rotation. Nice

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

Ya, well at least season 2 will be solid haha

[@E1YK001]

The rogue can distract to create opening to get by before they close the gap on you. Bad rogue.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

This guy can't even be optimistic about a mythic plus group he joined. Zero shot he is doing anything more than DPS.

[@veppy4952]

Idk who the fuck reverted the changes on adding back the patrolling ones that randomly desync and teleport onto people not even near them. Also you used to be able to 100% cc them pre season (heroic and m0s). I would always root them on my druid or rogue could distract, poly etc. Sometimes you wonder if people at blizz that design encounters/dungeons truly play or interact with the game in any meaningful manner outside of follower dungeons. Edit: You could also straight up juke the stun even if you entered their circle pre-season. I remember running around in the circle and all you had to do was dodge the obvious frontal that would dictate if you got sent back or not.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@veppy4952 hmm I don't remember any of that on the beta lol What happens if you root them now they just catch you and send you back?

[@Sodacacik]

this and dawnbreakers, these kind of gimmicks are fun the first time you do a dungeon, not something you wanna do for weeks in a season....

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@Sodacacik ya that's my exact thoughts. Great dungeon for a normal mode difficulty.

[@VDHmain]

The leaver affix is rough in 12s, it prevents people from getting good at the second half of a dungeon XD

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@VDHmain ya sadly, and that's the actual hard part.

[@hugofreitas6799]

And the worst affix is blizzard balance team

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@hugofreitas6799 this is not to do with balance.

[@konekopon2865]

community issue

[@georgeknight1726]

We missed a COT 10 by two seconds last night. Definitely our fault, but I am also happy to blame this RP 😂

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

Ya you probably could easily!

[@datguy2271]

When the patrol is at the stairs you can circle right to save time

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

Problem is how it just walls us off early.

[@NerdletteGaming]

Been there... rip key

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

I'm sure many have been sadly.

[@reudig123lol4]

I had one of those things porting 10 metres backwards while I was on the stairs, gripping me.... another time the Adds you fight teleported away during its frontal Aoe thingy and pulled a big beetle that completely bugged out and kept teleporting back and forth killing everyone... I agree this part of the dungeon sucks

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@reudig123lol4 ya it's just an awful choice for any mythic plus to include this.

[@jayjay-r7p]

I get the rush but is waiting 15 seconds too hard that we brick the key?

[@Telados]

That is 15s lost that you had no control over and that just feels really bad if you are on a timer

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

The key is only bricked because the player leaves though. That's the issue.

[@idk-jq4tz]

Was 40 seconds so almost yes

[@ven3558]

i remember when i was doing this dungeon on heroic thinking for sure that it wouldnt be part of the m+ pool of dungeons (or at least this spy mechanic) silly me

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@ven3558 ya it really should have been changed.

[@bark5318]

Weird thing is, that (im guessing now though) the majority of the playerbase is most likely 30+ but act like they are at most 10! Who just ups and leaves like that… Ruining the game for everyone 😔

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@bark5318 ya im not convinced tbh. I think the game has a big surge of mid 20s something players back during legion. Before that every applicant to our guild was thirty. After that we had a lot of players who were in college. Idk why.

[@jewishjojo]

@@heythereguysitsMetro I started during the BFA prepatch with a few friends while I was in high school. Most of my guild is late 20s-early 30s, but I have met a lot in that range too!

[@itstheyok]

This expansion will not be known for its dungeons sadly. Had big shoes to fill to be fair as SL and DF dungeons were really good

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

Ya I agree.

[@nucleartickz]

they just left cause of the npcs routing? o.o i noticed that some runs is supear clear others are like they be trolling you but is it really a cause of a dead key? me wonder

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@nucleartickz that rogue was negative a bunch already tbf

[@AnotherAntonio]

I think you can jump onto those circular dishes on the counter and then onto the ledge 0:14

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@AnotherAntonio probably

[@billabong5366]

2 deaths, looking good on the timer and he just leaves because someone got webbed?? Probably losing like 20secs max, makes you wonder how he ever finishes any key if that's what it takes for him to leave.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@billabong5366 ya he was negative the whole time too. A lot of noncompetitive attitudes in mythic plus anymore.

[@autumnsphere7581]

Whats the other one :D

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@autumnsphere7581 dawnbreaker

[@mangomariel]

idk, maybe mist because of the puzzle?

[@autumnsphere7581]

@@mangomariel mists puzzle is easy once you get used to it

[@Saluuntv]

I hate most dungeons this season sadly, but City of Threads is officially my most disliked dungeon of all times. I'd do Dawnbreaker any time of the day happily over CoT. Literally any dungeon but this. Before M+ in Heroic I was already complaining how this whole find the spies is such a massive waste of time and wished it would be cut out of the dungeon, but I also really dislike the boss encounters as well.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

Ya this is the worst one for sure.

[@deusaiurs1669]

Mmh i really Love both City dungeons❤

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@deusaiurs1669 glad to hear!

[@vladislavzdravkov4057]

That how i feel every run in this seasson:P

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@vladislavzdravkov4057 :p

[@AnaBolaCaspao]

For me this dungeon just keeps the tension on max during the entire time, don't know how it is for tanks but for healing there is almost no breathing room. Don't like this dungeon at all, so much can go wrong, like everywhere at all times x'D

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@AnaBolaCaspao ya this is a really hard healing dungeon for sure. All four bosses are intense.

[@tili_]

i think it's great if you don't see it like Olympics

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@tili_ you mean like that breakdancing woman?

[@Andrea-yx5rw]

Yep not fun at all, but Mechagon junkyard final Boss maze made more keys busted than ever

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@Andrea-yx5rw I mean that was a dumb mechanic but that was one of if not the easiest keys ever so hard to put it in that category haha

[@Telados]

You could jump over the laser beam, so not exactly hard

[@chain872005]

KZbin frickin unsubbed me. I am back now.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@chain872005 glad you are back!

[@williamo9878]

The worst boss mechanic it has to be the last Boss of Ara- Kara How I’m supposed to know that I need to interrupt the cast of the blob on the floor so I can move from the the hit/stun that will surely kill me . This is the problem with Mithic + . Blizzard want you to die a lot so eventually you will learn the mechanics but they forget the we are playing with real people that are not willing to help you understand the game and that’s a bad combination

[@Telados]

Why does blizzard always add stupid minigames to their mythic plus dungeons?

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@Telados ya no idea. This one is particularly unforgivable. No one wants to watch anyone do this. It has no redeemable qualities other than helping the feel of the dungeon. Leave that stuff in normal.

[@caiocarvalho8844]

This dg is really well made. Ppl these days are unbelievably annoying

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@caiocarvalho8844 you are joking I assume?

[@caiocarvalho8844]

@@heythereguysitsMetro Not at all, it’s a very cool dungeon

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@caiocarvalho8844 is it a cool mythic plus dungeon though?

[@MikeyJ232]

I typically always blame the players for failing mechanics in dungeons but this is irredeemably bad game design. This is the only dungeon in the game where this mechanic exists and you have to train yourself to pay attention to the feint lines. This isn’t Assassin’s Creed… Blizzard has the perfect dungeon formula when they aren’t being overly creative. It’s simple, linear dungeons with bosses, trash and occasional interactive objects. We don’t need to solve puzzles or watch for traps. I don’t want to fly in dungeons either, it doesn’t add anything to the experience.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@MikeyJ232 well said, interesting way to put it. they make great dungeons when they don't over design stuff and try to get too fancy.

[@AlexSandilands]

Yup

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@AlexSandilands haha

[@natoba4617]

i'm not familiar with mplus as i don't even touch it right now and simply just watch, what is the other awful dungeon he's talking about?

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

Dawnbreaker.

[@yaiba69]

yupp

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@yaiba69 ya

[@canwestop]

Yeah I just don't like CoT at all, this part is super annoying and the bosses are just rough.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@canwestop same

[@maxzybin8039]

CoT is just awful. Worst dungeon mechanics,worst bosses. I hope we won't see it in further seasons.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

Ya, sadly it will likely be back once more this expansion, but I agree.

[@vladislavzdravkov4057]

this by far is the worst seasson made by Blizzard

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@vladislavzdravkov4057 bad dungeon pool, great everything else.

[@ThomasBachler01]

@@heythereguysitsMetro "everything else" you say? *coughs* points at Challenger’s Peril.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@ThomasBachler01 oh ya. That too. Worst thing of the season for sure.

[@FirstNullLast]

Lmao

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

Rofl

[@nickgilbert-o8w]

Brother, you need to go outside and soak up some sun. Getting this frustrated over a game which is ment to be a break from real life is not healthy.

[@heythereguysitsMetro]

@@nickgilbert-o8w what are you seeing that makes you think I am overly upset? Really strange comment there.