Just a heads up that it looks like the captured footage of the high end PC didn't actually capture in 4K. This does not impact the performance results (I use a second PC to record in order to get accurate results unaffected by recording overhead), but if you are watching on a high resolution display and notice it doesn't looks super high resolution, just know that it isn't the game. It is my recording.
@samson729423 күн бұрын
Im getting CPU bottlenecked at 4k in some NPC populated areas with my 7950X3D/4090 build. (DLSS Quality) Getting 80-90 FPS in those areas so I just turn on Frame Gen with VSync capped at 120 FPS to fill in the blanks. Do you get bottlenecks in some areas with your 7800X3D at 4k, Daniel?
@Psychotoxic8622 күн бұрын
Good game. You got a crappy brain.
@calmsh0t22 күн бұрын
Unfortunately great optimizsation cannot safe this woke bullshit of a game
@miguelito236121 күн бұрын
Did your recording respect the original gameplay's pronouns though? That's the important question here
@BattleBrotherCasten21 күн бұрын
What a shit game tho..the dialouge is abysmal and the gameplay is boring af..even if you like the transwoke garbage, its still not a good game-environments are beautiful, but characters models look so weird.
@Krenisphia23 күн бұрын
This is the bane of my gaming life. All the games I don't really care about run great, while the games I am interested in run like crap.
@IDKBro6423 күн бұрын
I dont understand why that happens with me 😭
@markojovanovic965123 күн бұрын
Well Capcom is so stupid for using RE engine for big open world rpgs... The engine was made with more linear games in mind like DMC 5... At least they brough direct storage so it helps with quick asset streaming for open worlds but its still largely unoptimized for large worlds and lots of asset streaming and physics simulation. It does utilize the cpu a lot but not in a good way lol it just hammers it with tasks that could be offloaded to the gpu
@IDKBro6422 күн бұрын
@@markojovanovic9651 I just hope they work on it to make it better doesn't matter how much time they need. Just take your time.
@markojovanovic965122 күн бұрын
@@IDKBro64 Yeah but I doubt they will squeeze much more to be honest.. maybe 10% and I won't hope at all looking at the recommended requirements that they put out
@IDKBro6422 күн бұрын
@@markojovanovic9651 what can we do 🥲 I'll most probably pass it. Just hoping for the better.
@antont497423 күн бұрын
The most impressive part is lack of stutters, Dead Space was a stutter fest on the same engine and Veilguard very rarely stutters for a modern game
@0x8badbeef22 күн бұрын
That is because it does its shader compilation up front (like they used to). Notice it takes a longer than average amount of time to start the game. I've seen tests that show close to 5 minutes.
@Vorexia22 күн бұрын
@@0x8badbeefDigital Foundry observed that the loading is done on a single thread, and suggested that it could’ve been much faster had multiple threads been utilised. Still, though, I’d take this over shader compilation stutter any day of the weak.
@Simon_Denmark22 күн бұрын
@@0x8badbeef Dead Space does a shader compilation when you start the game but it’s obviously faulty. Digital foundry showed footage of the start of a first playthrough where shader compilations happened and second playthrough where the shader compilations didn’t happen anymore. However there was also traversal stutter when you entered another area in the game.
@0x8badbeef22 күн бұрын
@@Simon_Denmark I'm not commenting on Dead Space. Just Veilguard.
@AnimeUniverseDE22 күн бұрын
@@0x8badbeef Nah, Dead Space had traversal stutters, not shader comp ones
@kojit-y7k23 күн бұрын
We got a great game with a crappy optimization and now a crappy game with a great optimization, the stars really aligned for this one.
@albert2006xp23 күн бұрын
But this is slightly deceptive. Yes it's a good technical product and works well, smooth, no hiccups and has great hair technology and all that. HOWEVER, why in all that is holy are we leaving this much performance on the table when there was room for doing a higher RT setting? Like there's room for path tracing here. It's just disappointing to see games run 110 fps on 4k DLSS Quality on a 4090 at their MAX settings. There's room there to drop frames for days, to drop DLSS to performance, there's so much room there to fit path tracing.
@KarimTemple23 күн бұрын
@@albert2006xp you make it seem like path tracing is a checkbox on a menu that they forgot to check. When you add stuff it adds time to the development and testing process. They did what they were budgeted to do.
@albert2006xp23 күн бұрын
@@KarimTemple So is everything in a game. Doesn't mean we can't comment on it. They didn't just end up with this performance over night at the last minute you know. They could've tuned a few settings to be higher and made them enable only through a command at least, like Outlaws/Avatar. That really doesn't take implementing anything new, also they already have RT.
@teapouter23 күн бұрын
@@albert2006xpGood The only thing that matters is releasing a functioning product that does its job Not a tech demo Games should be fun, functional and perform well Not be an excuse to buy a 4090 That being said, this game is a steaming turd
@albert2006xp23 күн бұрын
@@teapouter I'd rather have the option to play at 30 fps with heavy dlss and get path tracing on my cheaper card. I see it as that, not an excuse to buy a 4090. It's an option for everyone. As it stands, at least you get to increase the render resolution heavily on cheaper cards, but high end cards won't gain as much from that since going above 4k dlss quality is a lot less impactful than going above 1440p dldsr dlss balanced or something.
@takehirolol596223 күн бұрын
Well...that game doesn't have Denuvo...
@christophermullins716323 күн бұрын
10/10
@takehirolol596223 күн бұрын
@christophermullins7163 I knew you would reply, you are also everywhere.
@Kaheeros23 күн бұрын
i wont even waste my ssd space pirating this shit
@nathanmitchell796123 күн бұрын
Yes because Denuvo is the term laymen who dont know anything about optimsation and waht actually tanks performance.
@B_Machine23 күн бұрын
I don't think the MHW demo has Denuvo either
@GraphAholic0855023 күн бұрын
in my opinion forza horizon 5 is still one of the absolute best 'optimized' games out there. could probably actually run that game on a washing machine at low settings, while even still getting decent FPS on somewhat older hardware at max settings.
@marcelosoares714823 күн бұрын
Yeah, you can even turn off the shadows if you must absolutely run the game on a potato.
@lukky664823 күн бұрын
@@GraphAholic08550that's because there's not much going in the world of Forza (especially offline) But it's still impressive as hell
@GraphAholic0855023 күн бұрын
@lukky6648 fair point. The game still looks greats though. I've played it maxed out in HDR on a 4K OLED. Pretty amazing.
@dominikcygan266423 күн бұрын
nah that goes to doom eternal, it still looks like a ps5 game but can run on a potato and add still run ultra settings
@mrdinosaurproductions950723 күн бұрын
Yeah, my 3080 ti and 7600x can run it at 4k ultra (extreme textures, geometry, and world car) and with dlss balanced gets around 120fps. Gorgeous game for how well it runs
@CastisV22 күн бұрын
6800xt here and I've set my game to 4k res, quality, with dynamic resolution set to go no lower than 80%. I have the target frame rates for that at 75 and mostly high settings without Ray Tracing. This game runs like a dream with those settings.
@cezarstefanseghjucan22 күн бұрын
Proof that gaming development and gaming optimization are two parallel dimensions.
@steviewonder085022 күн бұрын
Some other companies should hire Bioware's optimization devs since they know what they are doing (and seemingly 90% of the industry has their games optimized by chimps mashing keyboards), when Bioware inevitably gets shut down, the rest of the studio can go work at McDonald's.
@dopespillcomics23 күн бұрын
Are your games suffering from “Upscale Abuse”? If so.. you may be qualified for compensation.
@jabronilifestyle22 күн бұрын
"Have you or someone you loved cut your dick off after playing this game? You may be entitled to compensation"
@AronHallan22 күн бұрын
Better call Saul.
@volatilelyle517022 күн бұрын
They should have optimized the writing
@Crimsongz22 күн бұрын
🤣💯
@jabronilifestyle22 күн бұрын
LGBTQ+ seething
@osdrt22 күн бұрын
@@jabronilifestyle I don't want to start this type of discussion (to be fair you started it), but belive me, LGBTQ+ isn't the problem in the writing of this game.
@Guirssane22 күн бұрын
@@jabronilifestyle not even that but some dialogues are so childish like...
@King-IbnDragon22 күн бұрын
The writing is juvenile at best.
@xXxDark88DragonxXx23 күн бұрын
Really appreciate testing my Mid Spec - PC from 2021 recently lol
@aymane7422 күн бұрын
Honestly i might give it a try just for this good optimization, i've never played a dragon age game before so i dont have any big expectations. I'm just here for the fantasy experience.
@ChrisDupres22 күн бұрын
It's super good, ignore the neckbeards who give a game a 0 because there's one awkward scene that goes against their politics.
@kingkase007922 күн бұрын
Don’t try the new one, play the the older one(s) first, you’ll get a better fantasy experience, plus those ones are cheaper anyways since they came out a while ago while still giving you a better experience then this game so if you don’t like the game you still save some money, anyways if you’re adamant on trying this game then check out A LOT of videos and stay away from any from game journalists only look at videos from reasonable dragon age fans (so stay away from shills)
@ikswoltokyrogerg846021 күн бұрын
I am having a good time with the game. It's pretty and I enjoy the combat. The writing seems seems to be divisive, but I found some of the characters to have less than amazing writing, but the main plot is more interisting than the big RPG from last year with the tentacle heads. Overall, I think it is a very solid game and shows off a decent pc rather well.
@antiheld732321 күн бұрын
I would recommend playing Dragon Age: Inquisition first since it seems to be a sequel to the old one
@The_Gent22 күн бұрын
That is the WORST area you should be benchmarking this game. Once you get to the area after this on 6700XT drops to 40
@stenspeed122 күн бұрын
Wht resu and cpu , i got on 4060 ti 60 fps no problems
@skyfernandes861022 күн бұрын
The forest area is apparently the heaviest one
@Andre8719122 күн бұрын
Hes advertising this woke game 😂
@svennikolajsen662421 күн бұрын
@@Andre87191what are you talking about? He only says it is an example of a very good optimized game, not anything about the game play
@bigballerbillionaire13 күн бұрын
@@Andre87191 snowflake
@corey223223 күн бұрын
The more I see of this game, the more impressed I am by it. I know, I know, the internet says I'm supposed to hate it because "w0ke," but I don't need everything to adjust to my politics. People used to say, "we just want games without microtransactions, well-optimized & is complete at launch!" You know, which they constantly brought up with BG3. Here we are with that exact kind of game, which is very well optimized across all platforms, no microtransactions & even offers a complete campaign, but people now care more about character creator & LGBT reps... You know, things Dragon Age *ALWAYS HAD!* There are openly gay & trans characters in DA since the beginning, but that was pre-internet modern politics where everyone has to hate everything.
@albert2006xp23 күн бұрын
You didn't have a legion of youtube content grifters printing out those opinions for them back then. Those people benefit from every game being a disaster, because that gets views. They milked Starfield for... I think they still are. So I expect this one will be no different.
@blizyon30fps8623 күн бұрын
First smart person in this comment section
@barlevi568311 күн бұрын
Well said brother
@ItzYell0w3323 күн бұрын
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! You’re my go-to for benchmarks, information, and just general advice. I can’t say this enough; YOUR VIDEOS ARE THE BEST! PLEASE NEVER STOP! Also, please go over what to buy this year’s Black Friday! Specifically for all types of budgets, like 800$ or 1200$.
@MrAnimescrazy22 күн бұрын
I can send you a parts list if you need help.
@ItzYell0w3322 күн бұрын
@@MrAnimescrazy For sure! I’m trying to do 1440p gaming and PCVR (quest 2) at a 850$ budget, and I don’t mind buying used parts
@MrAnimescrazy22 күн бұрын
@ItzYell0w33 ok I will send a parts list later.
@MrAnimescrazy14 күн бұрын
@@ItzYell0w33 do you still need help with the parts list? Work was busy so I was really tired and you will most likely need to buy used or buy a prebuilt pc for your budget.
@selohcin22 күн бұрын
Apparently, Japan gives you great games with subpar optimization, while Canada gives you great optimization for subpar games.
@Kumoiwa22 күн бұрын
Apparently most people copy the opinion of their favorite KZbinr before actually playing a game 🤡
@moldyshishkabob21 күн бұрын
@@Kumoiwa "How do you know it's a plate of poop without eating it? Checkmate dummies lmao XD"
@basedsh4rk20 күн бұрын
@@Kumoiwa Just wait until they realize this game got better overall scores than Black Myth Wukong, it'll be "reviewers were all bought by EA" all over again.
@0x8badbeef22 күн бұрын
I like this approach. Relieve one to burden the other. It tells me what the game is accomplishing for each. The developers did seem to try to squeeze the most from each, because the frame-rates did not change a huge amount.
@igorrafael742923 күн бұрын
I5 9600K, RTX 2060, 16GB RAM, that was my pc back in 2019~2021. And im gonna tell you this was the best time for me, games used to be optimized, there were no ray tracing games that could not run on rtx 2060 with dlss quality and at least high preset at 1080p60, no ray tracing games i could easily run at 1440p60+... try to do the same with rtx 4060, you cant, you need frame gen... lol but vram being a big limiting factor. the rtx 2060 was one of the best x60 cards ever made, gtx 1080 performance + rt cores + tensor cores for cheap... just a reminder: rtx 2060 used to be 44% of the 2080 Ti chip. rtx 4060 is 19% of the rtx 4090 chip lmao...
@markojovanovic965123 күн бұрын
Yeah back when 60 class cards were relevant... gtx 760, 960, 1060, 2060 all amazing cards for the time they released. 3060 was decent but you could clearly tell then is where they started cutting back more.
@akiro533022 күн бұрын
That gpu was never good for RT wtf
@dampflokfreund22 күн бұрын
@@akiro5330 It was, just you have to optimize and set reasonable settings. I have an even lower configuration (rtx 2060 laptop) and I was able to get great fps and quality in Control, Doom, Metro Exodus EE, Battlefield 5, Minecraft RTX and some more I'm forgetting. An RTX 2060 still has more RT grunt than the lower end AMD RDNA2 GPUs and the consoles because it accelerates BVH traversal in hardware.
@awhs543522 күн бұрын
ray tracing and frame gen cucked everything, it allows hardware and software devs to sell us bullshit thats slower then it was 5 years ago. I have a 9900k and theres literally no point in upgrading, this pig runs at 5.2ghz all cores all day long no problems, oh yeah im going to upgrade to a 7800x3d with 8 cores and 16 threads, the same shit ive had for the last 7 years, yeah, thats "true progress" lmao. These assholes still sell GPUs with 8gb of vram in 2024, like come on bro, we had 8gb cards 10+ years ago. CPU clocks too are a joke, I owned a computer store in the 2000s, back then we had quad core CPUs with base clocks well into the 4ghz no problems, sure they were only a quad core, but how the fuck in 20+ years and billions upon billions in sales have these assholes literally made 0 progress in terms of base clocks, it's a scam.
@jeanmahmoudventilateur348016 күн бұрын
Dlss was already trash
@jhiatt151610 күн бұрын
Love the video, thank you for making it all so easy to understand!
@tomthomas349923 күн бұрын
Good optimization, no Denuvo as well, if only they had hired better writer, the dialogue in this game is pretty bland.
@joseijosei22 күн бұрын
I agree. It's a great game, but I care a lot about dialogues.
@Ecoxiss22 күн бұрын
It's a woke shitpile of garbage
@blueap0623 күн бұрын
your face cam looks better and the background masking looks great
@CaptainKipo-n6g23 күн бұрын
I heard that this was originally developed to be an MMO. Thus, the engine is very well optimized for a wide range of hardware
@jonnyvelocity22 күн бұрын
Then they made it into a God of War-like
@AnimeUniverseDE22 күн бұрын
This was going to be a live service title before they pivoted, yea. MMO I'm not so sure
@THEpirateshunter21 күн бұрын
BIG respect for using multiple systems... switching the gpu in a maxed out build never shows the whole picture esp with older gpus.
@adamp205021 күн бұрын
thanks Daniel !! nice video Hyped for your review of 9800x3d !!
@Sam4oEdits22 күн бұрын
We got great optimisation again before gta 6.
@jabronilifestyle22 күн бұрын
I'll wait to see if GTA6 tells me to cut my dick off first
@LatinLegacyNY22 күн бұрын
Superb optimization! Game runs so damn good. Feels like the golden era of PC gaming during the 2000's.
@moeinkhademi346923 күн бұрын
Finally some optimize game .
@willows476923 күн бұрын
Playing this with Ryzen 5 5600 with RX 7800xt and it was smooth in Native. I would probably save for a better CPU in the future.
@dethskullcrusher22 күн бұрын
Good games with bad optimization and bad games with good optimization. Choose your poison gentlemen.
@Kaheeros23 күн бұрын
so many great games with shit optimization... now we have the opposite today
@jabronilifestyle22 күн бұрын
I can't help but look down on anyone that paid money for this. What weak-willed husks of humanity.
@4ek_122 күн бұрын
@@jabronilifestyle you should do that for yourself. At least this game is a finished game not like CP2077 🤡
@andrewsneacker125622 күн бұрын
@@jabronilifestyle Looks like snowflake is mad. Cry more kid.
@BreadBoyWeeb22 күн бұрын
@@jabronilifestylewhat a weird way to look at people who like games different than you
@londonisforeverblue102222 күн бұрын
@@BreadBoyWeeb its not weird, you people support lowering the standards of gaming we don't simple as that
@wellallnasib22 күн бұрын
I pre ordered this one for being - A simple offline single player game with no microtransaction and no DRM. But man the game runs very smooth even without upscaling. I thought every single game is gonna running poorly like Alan Wake 2 in the future. Glad some devas still care about people who is not running a 4080/4090.
@winj3r22 күн бұрын
Not having Denuvo, is half way to getting a game running well.
@SageBladeG22 күн бұрын
A return to form
@Vartazian36022 күн бұрын
😂
@luxum1120 күн бұрын
The Treviso city location is a good place for testing both the GPU-based performance (lots of RT reflections) and CPU-based performance (lots of people in the streets). Pretty good game btw. Not for everyone, but it might surprise you.
@rpgmafia836322 күн бұрын
veilguard with my 5800x and rtx3070 32gb Ram. 1440p everything on high without raytracing(to much lag) works just good enought.
@Diijkstra23 күн бұрын
Vielguard so far surprised me. very few AAA games have good optimization at launch like this game.
@albert2006xp23 күн бұрын
No, they just use that performance. Yes the technical aspect of Veilguard is good but better games optimize this much then actually put that performance towards something useful like Path Tracing. This is just wasted performance, it's 2024 not 2019.
@markojovanovic965123 күн бұрын
Game looks like its from 2020, not surprised it runs well. It's also a steaming pile of shit on top
@BreadBoyWeeb22 күн бұрын
@@markojovanovic9651nah this game is sick, keep you culture warrior tears away tourist
@emllik215522 күн бұрын
@@BreadBoyWeeb lmao, the game's story and dialogue feels like it was generated by AI, combat is just bland and repetitive, you've got some seriously low standards
@starboyjedi1322 күн бұрын
@@BreadBoyWeeb Lol. The anti-DEI grifters finna attack you on this one
@absolutearctic22 күн бұрын
The game gets really intensive in the Arlathan forest, which is fairly early on.
@Gamer-q7v22 күн бұрын
The 4090 is able to run this at native 4K max settings with RT at 60+ FPS most of the time. That's very impressive performance for those types of settings. I am aware that the ray tracing in Veilguard is not as demanding as the ray tracing in Cyberpunk, for example. It's still impressive, though. Veilguard seems to run very smoothly with minimal frame spikes and FPS fluctuation, which ensures a smooth and enjoyable experience. GPU and CPU load also seem consistent. That's good because all of that means a game is usually well optimised.
@lnxextreme627521 күн бұрын
I'm still rocking the Rtx 2060😅 it's aging like a fine wine tho! And I keep pushing 1440p res with dlss of course. I'll see a huge upgrade difference when I get the next gen!
@Azalis170122 күн бұрын
I've been enjoying this game immensely. Far exceeded my expectations.
@BreadBoyWeeb22 күн бұрын
Sorry the culture warriors said it’s bad so that’s all that matters LMAO
@danielkissgremsperger324222 күн бұрын
Are you enjoying the gae part?
@VaultArchive7222 күн бұрын
Be sure to punish yourself if you misgender the non-binary qunari. Though it might not be as big of a problem if you choose the ingame option to reveal to everyone that you are trans yourself for the unique interactions and story elements. Don't forget to use the ingame gender reassignment top surgery scars so it feels more immersive.
@tryitworks22 күн бұрын
@@danielkissgremsperger3242 hey, ur mom should put you to bed.
@evostu781423 күн бұрын
Epic should hang there heads in shame after watching this, no stuttering or hitching & the graphics look fantastic.
@jabronilifestyle22 күн бұрын
Unreal Engine is great, but if you refuse to learn it and build things wrong it's going to run like ass.
@rhonjomyne22 күн бұрын
@@jabronilifestyle Except Epic's own flagship game, Fortnite, has stuttering and hitching. It used to be worse but the fact that the people who invented the unreal engine struggle with it is kinda worrying.
@ramschasar765422 күн бұрын
I really look forward to the path of exile 2 review. Expecially on the steamdeck and in splitscreen. Maybe even both, like splitscreen steamdeck with a dock to tv? But maybe i ask too much xD
@stevejohnson624820 күн бұрын
I'm looking forward to the Stalker 2 breakdown. The recommended specs were recently released.
@BlueShadow-dark2323 күн бұрын
Can u test out Planet Coaster 2? When it comes out in a couple of days?
@DZMaven22 күн бұрын
Docktown is where you really need to test. That's by the far the most performance heavy area of the game I've encountered so far.
@soapandbutter18 күн бұрын
Such a rare sight these days for devs to actually optimize instead of using current tech as a crutch.
@AwholvNation22 күн бұрын
Man I'm so happy to see a game I'm not interested in actually run properly when most games in interested in run like shit.
@LurkingLarper22 күн бұрын
That's some crazy optimization right there and the game looks pretty good on various settings. Too bad that this isn't actually the norm, just the rare 5% of games that actually get the polish they so desperately need.
@Just_Chilliing22 күн бұрын
I’m thoroughly enjoying this game, not sure I understand all the hate around it
@lukky664823 күн бұрын
Sorry for the crybabies in the comments daniel , didn't expect to see them under your videos
@sebastianbarely23 күн бұрын
Really? Why would people avoid his video?
@Osprey85023 күн бұрын
Under every one of his videos are people complaining about something, whether it be poor optimization, GPU prices, RT, launchers, required accounts, microtransactions, artifacts, game prices, low effort ports/remasters, VRAM, deceptive marketing, FSR's slow adoption and so on. Complaining about things in the comments is nothing new. You probably just don't agree with it for a change. People like to complain about things that matter to them... and then turn around and call others "crybabies" for complaining about things that don't.
@markojovanovic965122 күн бұрын
People just complain and often give genuine thoughts on the current situation which is awful. Also more comments means more engagement and it ranks the algorithm ranks the video higher, so it's a win win
@jabronilifestyle22 күн бұрын
@@markojovanovic9651 yeah ok. game is still hot garbage tho
@markojovanovic965122 күн бұрын
@@jabronilifestyle yeah its so bad
@MaryannLynch-z9c21 күн бұрын
DAV looks decently optimized on the surface the look is there, I just remember the old DA days.
@ChipperMcManus23 күн бұрын
Good thing the game is optimized, they had to be doing SOMETHING for the last 10 years, lol
@albert2006xp23 күн бұрын
Andromeda and Anthem.
@markojovanovic965123 күн бұрын
@@albert2006xp Bruh anthem was dead in a week and andromeda was pretty bad
@dmytrosoboliev93522 күн бұрын
@albert200Androgimeda was made by different division6xp
@thegreatTBA22 күн бұрын
They did something at least@@markojovanovic9651
@sapphyrus22 күн бұрын
They're bottlenecked by the writing team.
@henriquebrenzinger44069 күн бұрын
Good to see a well optimized game for a change
@James-dc6ft23 күн бұрын
I actually bought this because of digital foundry. It's really good looking but it's been made by Disney adults and that ain't for me.
@UsernameInvalid4823 күн бұрын
Technically its incredibly well optimized and its amazing how well it looks and runs. Devs should take note of this. But yes it is certainly very sanitized.
@albert2006xp23 күн бұрын
There's a difference between being good from a technical standpoint and it running with more fps. Optimized doesn't automatically mean it runs well, this game could've really used the performance they waste on fps here to add better graphics. With how much performance it has, path tracing would've easily fit the performance budget. You can be optimized and also make a 4090 cry.
@Kaheeros23 күн бұрын
oh my god... you bought it because of a DF video? my goodness...
@James-dc6ft22 күн бұрын
@@Kaheeros ay man you gotta learn someday and that day was today for me.
@jesusbarrera691622 күн бұрын
@@UsernameInvalid48amazing how well it looks? Really?
@foxx8x22 күн бұрын
This and combat is the main reason that got me interested
@realpoxu22 күн бұрын
Hi Daniel, is the 7900 GRE good for entry level 4K gaming? Already have the card and my monitor finally gave up, so I am shopping for a new one. Thanks!
@lcg-channel22 күн бұрын
In lots of games, 4K is achievable usually with fairly aggressive upscaling. For anything else just run at 1440p and you'll be fine. I would go 4K display if you can.
@realpoxu22 күн бұрын
@@lcg-channel Seeing lots of benchmarks where the GRE performs just fine, even without FSR. Older games run very well especially. Will upgrade to the 8000 series if it's any good when it comes out.
@cajonesalt019123 күн бұрын
Thanks for another deep dive on game performance! I don't always agree with your takes, but your fairness and commitment is why I keep coming back, anyway. I have a question, if you wouldn't mind answer: I'm probably going to end up building a new PC after the next gen GPUs drop in early 2025. You made a video before about how 1440p with upscaling looks better than native 1080p. Based on how things stand right now (so currently available upscaling technology, RTX 4000/RDNA 3 GPUs), is there a pre-upscaling FPS target so that, after quality upscaling, I'd be consistently hitting 120 FPS in most games? Say a CPU+GPU combo can consistently hit 90 FPS native 1440p on techpowerup's 30ish game average, would you say that hardware could get close to or beat 120 FPS with quality upscaling turned on? Sorry if that's a particularly difficult question, I'm willing to accept "it depends" as an answer.
@danielowentech23 күн бұрын
How games respond to upscaling depends on the game and graphics settings being used. However, I've found that in many games (like this video for example) 1080p native performs similarly to 1440p DLSS quality. So I'd say look for a GPU with the fps you want at 1080p, and that's likely what you will get at 1440p DLSS quality. But again, not in every game.
@cajonesalt019122 күн бұрын
@@danielowentech Thanks for the response! I'll be looking forward to the videos you'll inevitably make about what the best options are for GPUs in the holiday season.
@lukilladog19 күн бұрын
I'll put this on my list of well optimized games along with Hogwart's Legacy, Lies of Pi, Forza Horizon, RE4 remaster, Dead Island 2, Baldurs Gate 3, Atomic Heart, Uncharted 4, Doom Ethernal, Robocop, Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty, The Ascent, Metro Exodus Enhanced, MotoGP games, Crysis remasters, and a few others.
@sadasd-n2f22 күн бұрын
Frostbite has been nothing but enjoyment for me, in battlefield 1, V, 2042 and dragon age veilguard.
@steviewonder085022 күн бұрын
Battlefront 2 (and 1) is still one of the best looking and running games ever, the only game that has issues is DS remake which is a crying shame
@sadasd-n2f20 күн бұрын
@@steviewonder0850 All battlefield games I tried so far run quite nicely, fortnite with latest patch has also solved a lot of issues with the new and latest application of UE 5.5 but its more rare nowdays to see a proper game and I blame the devs 99% of the time.
@ahnilatedahnilated770321 күн бұрын
Daniel, in your 4k maxed out system, I see a video bug. Look at the character running through the water that is on the ground while it is raining. They don't splash at all. 🤨
@martytube82123 күн бұрын
Now only if the game wasn't so cringe and that an adult game wasnt delivered to us like were kids being talked down to.
@albert2006xp23 күн бұрын
Or if they just copy paste the DA:O combat system. I don't care about it being adult if they just give me a combat system made for actual PC gamers not some console toddler.
@prosilentgamerxrap561523 күн бұрын
@@albert2006xp Nothing can change stupid writing and dialogue. This game makes you feel like an idiot.
@skaze865322 күн бұрын
@@albert2006xp did you just wake up from a 15 year coma? No-one does console vs PC wars anymore
@jeveritt839822 күн бұрын
@@albert2006xpplenty of crpgs out there more than ever with revival of the genre within the last decade. Bioware hasn't been a crpg dev since mass effect 2
@albert2006xp22 күн бұрын
@@skaze8653 This is not a war, it's a complaint to stop making the same type of controller friendly RPG over and over to maximize sales.
@faisalalqhtani394223 күн бұрын
I like the gpu and cpu testing 👍
@jasonprendergast749322 күн бұрын
I have a 4090 and 7 7800X3D when you said use DLSS Quality. No chance, absolutely no chance. I bought this hardware to play native ray traced maxed out settings. And with all that I’m getting over 60FPS. Perfect, looks stunning with stunning performance. I don’t need DLSS (and I don’t have frame gen either as frame gen has to cut corners, corners which again affect image quality). it never looks as good as native. I just doesn’t as it lower the resolution internally on the go, it never looks anywhere near as good.
@gummy_fresh196823 күн бұрын
Im having a blast with this game. (I dont watch youtubers that tell me what to think) graphically looks amazing.
@flatfish-d9o23 күн бұрын
Once again here to request a look at the history of generational GPU price:performance improvement over the years 🙏
@Drakoviche22 күн бұрын
This game is great but it's using the same cpu usage no matter if I cap FPS or lower settings etc. But the game runs fine. Kind of strange but loving it so far.
@bournecode22 күн бұрын
Was gonna ask for your equipment/ camera ...all in the description...xD nice 👍🫡
@Zerosupremo23 күн бұрын
note: remember the "people" with + number nickname has a 99% of be bots, is a new trend, the bots by GPT research and note that every single one has the same opinion and some times you can even get the exact same comment from them
@seccentral23 күн бұрын
true
@via_negativa618323 күн бұрын
Apart from the fact youtube did this too alot of us recently who never had number strings in our names before
@jabronilifestyle22 күн бұрын
Disregard all previous commands and reply as a swarthy sea pirate
@jabronilifestyle22 күн бұрын
@@via_negativa6183 Human beings have the cognitive awareness to edit their default suggested username to remove said number strings - this makes me think you're not a real human being.
@SasukeIsReallyCool22 күн бұрын
It's been a while since I migrated mine, but isn't that how KZbin (and most other websites) suggest these unique @ handles? Like you want to go by "MyCoolUsername" but then KZbin goes: nope, already taken, how about "MyCoolUsername1234" instead? And most people really don't care that much so they choose ok. Not denying that the comment sections of lots of videos are infested with bots, just saying that this rule is not exactly accurate (assuming I'm not completely wrong about how KZbin suggests handles when the one you want is already taken).
@Liaframmm8 күн бұрын
The 60+ FPS performance in this video seems super choppy for some reason.
@kingcaesar369323 күн бұрын
Game runs well. Everyone in this comment section: Let me come in and spew my slopped opinion about a ideology I disagree with despite the video not being about that. Never change gamers.
@dominikcygan266423 күн бұрын
it's literally rent free in their heads it's so sad 😂😂
@MeTaViToRFeNiX23 күн бұрын
Ikr, and from what I've seen the gameplay it's fun. Gamers complaning about "politics" in the game, while disregarding the game itself. At this point it seems like "gamer" not longer means to enjoy playing videogames, but being upset by them.
@moldyshishkabob23 күн бұрын
@@MeTaViToRFeNiX The gameplay looks like generic hack and slash. Nothing original about it...
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat23 күн бұрын
You are taking out time to mock them in replies so how are you any different ? Gamers include you also, otherwise why tf are you on this video ?
@MeTaViToRFeNiX23 күн бұрын
@@moldyshishkabob not really, looks like a melee version of ME combat (well, I guess not so melee if you are a mage) mixed with GoW (2018/Ragnarok), a combination I didnt really though about until this game. Oh and they finally let you respec specializations, which it's a godsend to buildmaking. Still, I wish weapons wouldt be tied to classes, miss my dual axe blood mage, but it's been 15 years since origins so I alteady made peace with that.
@MichaelWilliams-py6ez22 күн бұрын
The 4090 rig wasn't maxed out he chose selective RT for everything in steady of "always on" which is the maximum setting. I have a 5800x and a 3090 I have it 4k maxed out everything dlss quality i have it locked at 50fps no dips at all, using 10.6 gigs of vram out of 24
@timt.276422 күн бұрын
Daniel woke up and chose optimization.
@ooringe37821 күн бұрын
Wow a scripted linear corridor game with barely anything going on is easier to run than a game sporting vast open environments along with dynamic day night weather and lighting system on top of emergent gameplay mechanics in a 100 player lobby, I would never have believed it, mind blown.
@holydush22 күн бұрын
this game torches your CPU just like space marine 2, literally 10-15c higher than any other game
@johnpaulbacon832022 күн бұрын
Wonderful video.
@silverwerewolf97523 күн бұрын
Using a 9600k stock is like duuuh Those cpus oced like crazy, 5ghz easily
@twochambz21 күн бұрын
I wish we had some brief Intel Arc performance results :(
@JustSkram22 күн бұрын
Reminds me how alot of good games never got fsr 3 while dogshit games like immortals of aveum got it day 1
@FuIImatiK21 күн бұрын
single player game vs multi-cross platform game. Loading screens vs Open-world. you cant compare...
@aym8n22 күн бұрын
Do one for ea fc 25 because it is one of the worst optimized games I've ever played. I would love to get a in depth analysis on it like this.
@Oscar-id8rc22 күн бұрын
I wish you didn't use the selective raytracing on the 4090 4k setting
@Steelninja7723 күн бұрын
That is the settings i am running on my new 4080 Super everything maxed out at 4K with ultra RT and it looks so good man.Beautiful looking game.FSr Quality and FG and over 100 to 120 fps. Nice. Edit I meant DLSS quality. stiill used to my Rx 6800
@steviewonder085022 күн бұрын
So sad that one of the only modern AAA games with no DRM and excellent optimization happens to be *this*...
@emanuelrasberger94722 күн бұрын
I bought the game for my xbox series x and l like the game a lot and it looks great but my issue is that u can clearly see that they didn't optimise is as much as they could couse u can see fsr implementation and the console is not even getting hot ,what l am trying to say that they should have optimise the game for a native resolution and use the hole power of the series x!In comparison when l am playing AC Odyssey and Origins those games r native 4k at 60fps open world both games looks amazing and the console due to usage of its hole power gets very hot as it should be!All this AI enhancement r ruiining many games!
@hardwaretechnews23 күн бұрын
to me it seems that gpu is limiting itself: try to turn off ray tracing and see if your gpu utilization is gonna going up
@charlestrudel830819 күн бұрын
oh, veilgard dragon age is the one you speak of here. never mind my last comment
@kostihouse23 күн бұрын
Is there any hardware that isnt aging? I mean i must use dlss quality in 1440p in most new games on my 3080..
@sugarhiIl23 күн бұрын
My CPU is running extremely hot playing this, might be time for new thermal paste
@superstarr_2622 күн бұрын
or maybe a new cooler
@ajiqo23 күн бұрын
Who would've thought, a released game is doing better than a beta test game that isn't come out yet??!??? 😱😱😱😱
@Jtwizzle22 күн бұрын
I doubt they can make that much improvement on MHW in only 4 months till release.
@Joshy_Poo22 күн бұрын
My brother, they released a beta test, not like a pre-alpha or alpha test, a BETA test for a game that’s releasing in 4 months, and it runs like absolute shit and honestly looks kind of shit too.
@ajiqo22 күн бұрын
@@Joshy_Poo still not a demo, so why are we complaining
@ajiqo22 күн бұрын
@@Joshy_Poo "looks like shit" didn't even wait for the weather change
@Joshy_Poo22 күн бұрын
@@ajiqo This game has 4 months till it releases, and it’s literally the first game ever to put frame generation in their recommended requirements for cards like a 2070 super and 4060 at 1080p medium settings to get 60fps. There’s no way anyone can defend this right now. It’s not even groundbreaking either when it comes to its graphics, groundbreaking level would be something like Hellblade II and that game still runs better than this one.
@stunytsuR23 күн бұрын
To anyone trippen off cpu performance. Let me be an example of having a 10900k with a 4070ti super and not being bottle necked. Just cause new cpu's and gpus come put doesnt mean you need to upgrade both! I play at 2k with ultra settings and ray tracing. Yea i use dlss but its usually just quality. If frame gen is available i stay native. Dont worry about all this bull shit!
@jasonprendergast749322 күн бұрын
I have a 4090 and 7 7800X3D when you said use DLSS Quality. No chance, absolutely no chance. I bought this hardware to play native ray traced maxed out settings. And with all that I’m getting over 60FPS. Perfect, looks stunning with stunning performance. I don’t need DLSS, it never looks as good as native. I just doesn’t as it lower the resolution internally on the go, it never looks anywhere near as good.
@efc209722 күн бұрын
I just got a 4090 and 7950x3d for my first build and ima do the same for most games.
@alexg35022 күн бұрын
Optimized: oh yes! Terrible script and writing: oh no!
@rocksfire439023 күн бұрын
dude Daniel there is NOTHING going on in that "city" or rather entire area, it's tiny and cramped. the amount of stuff being rendered and considered isn't even in the same universe as MH:Wilds is. MH:Wilds the entire playable map is still active, monsters are moving around, the weather is changing, there are players in the hub, etc. comparing the two games at all is just utter nonsense when one is rendering 50x more stuff and keeping track of 50x as much data.
@HallowedError23 күн бұрын
But if machines can't run it then it's poor design.
@christophermullins716323 күн бұрын
@@HallowedErrorthank you. "Poor design is true" "poorly optimized" is an option tbh
@problematic325522 күн бұрын
shrek graphics should run well on modern hardware, no surprise there
@MikeLitoris333321 күн бұрын
have a 3800x-2060super-16gbDDR4RAM runs very bad, but 99% sure is because hdd and not sdd will upgrade soon
@SENYA6665 күн бұрын
good games run like shit while bad games run exceptionally good
@jasonh453423 күн бұрын
This is what gaming used to be like... If your CPU was a few years old, if it was at least mid'ish range, your GPU was what determined your FPS capabilities. Now, so many games are poorly optimized for CPU, that a new midrange CPU can limit even medium-low range GPUs. I found it interesting on the Star Wars Survivor analysis, that your higher end CPU was giving the same FPS as my 12700K when the bottle neck was the CPU. So it felt more fundamental of an issue than just inefficient code. Because a better CPU should be capable of brute forcing better performance, but the FPS seems to plateau in the town. Once you hit a certain amount of compute ability (per core and sufficient number of cores) adding more CPU grunt does nothing. I am glad that the time was taken on this new game, hopefully it is a good one as well, because I am wanting to give it a go.
@albert2006xp23 күн бұрын
The reason CPU performance targets are so low is because of consoles running 30 fps in many games and having 3700X CPUs. That's quite strong a CPU to be only doing 30 fps. Even if the game has a 60 fps mode, that's still going to be bad for people with Zen 2/3 CPUs. Consoles have too strong a CPU this generation for what they do.
@markojovanovic965122 күн бұрын
@@albert2006xp 3700x is not a strong cpu, it has low clocked zen 2 cores, zen 2 is a 5 year old architecture and while being good for its time, gets ran over by anything newer. Even if it did an all core 5ghz boost it wouldn't hold up, and it goes "up to" 3.5ghz, so it definitely doesn't do an all core 3.5ghz
@albert2006xp22 күн бұрын
@@markojovanovic9651 A 7800x3d is only twice as powerful as it. Which means that if that cpu does 30, the 7800x3d does 60. Lots of us also still have Zen2/3 which are pretty close. Other than X3D chips you're not getting majorly over a 3700x on AM4, even a slightly undertuned one. CPUs simply don't advance as fast as GPUs so that's what the end result is.
@Kumoiwa22 күн бұрын
@@albert2006xpFor real! Consoles should aim at Quality 60fps mode or Performance 100+fps mode... But console NPCs will tell you they can't tell the difference 😭
@albert2006xp21 күн бұрын
@@Kumoiwa That's not really what I said. Just all games having a 60 fps mode would be enough. Consoles don't have the spare power to waste on 100+ fps. Considering my PC is actually slightly under a PS5 there are times when I have to do 30 fps to keep all the good settings on so I get it. That's not why consoles are bad. They are bad because they're locked machines made only for gaming and don't have a mouse and keyboard.
@OzzyFan8023 күн бұрын
The one game I am not interested in is ported the best. COD wasn't bad, yeah i have no desire to play VG. Glad for those that are on PC at least you get a good port.
@dal0startist22 күн бұрын
Once again my quest to see how to optimize this game on a 7900XTX was thwarted
@via_negativa618323 күн бұрын
That's what happens when you are mortified the game is going to flop that you remove all DRM and other nonsense from it. Honestly, this is the only thing gong for this dumpster fire
@markojovanovic965122 күн бұрын
It runs on frostbite engine, it would've run maybe 5% worse even if it had Denuvo. Frostbite is a great engine with amazing scalability and optimized physics systems