This Is Why You Need To K Swap The Honda S2000: K24 S2K

[@bige7186]

NEVER F20C stays in my S2000 for good 😎 just sounds unique unlike any other Honda motor..

[@bwmcdonald96]

Amen brother

[@scottgardner5918]

Agree 👍

[@ClayWong]

Love the F20C but it’s very cool to see something different and unique being done!☺️

[@soloacabrera2583]

if i owned a s2k I would preserve the engine in the garage and keep blowing up k20 engines lol then finnaly when I garage queen the car Put back the F20C if I was in your guys path .

[@scottgardner5918]

@@soloacabrera2583 blow up a k20? I have tried. Lol. Not actually easy to do.

[@aaronmeldrum8456]

So many people saying K swapping was a bad idea... literally almost every race team Ive seen that uses s2k have moved to K series motors... F series engines are great but they are expensive and not highly avaliable... K series are literally everywhere, and their after market support is only growing.

[@bige7186]

And that is why the f20 is better, it’s obviously really expensive for a reason ...

[@ClayWong]

K truly is the future! People are going to look back at this in five years and realise they missed the very affordable K-Series boat.

[@inaNis_]

@@bige7186 uhh, it's actually because they only ever came out in the s2000. The K series has higher power potential especially when you consider k24 stroker kits can reach 2.7l of displacement, in a 4 cylinder. I know of a K tech stroker kit for the F20C which brings the motor to 2.4l... otherwise a stock K24. Without opening up the engine, and using only bolt ons and e85, the k24a2 can reach 240 hp, but the F22C usually can get to around 220-230

[@bige7186]

@@inaNis_ higher potential or not, just face it the mighty f20c is the superior motor all around 👍🏼 CONVERSATION OVER.

[@inaNis_]

@@bige7186 Dude. If the K24 has higher potential, it's a better motor. That's what it means to be better.

[@Mrvibargeboy]

Love the K series, but I would only do the swap if I blew the f20/22. The F is KINDA like a built K from factory. its just special.

[@youtubecomments5951]

@@Ahsangill19 no it isn’t. Spend 10k on upgrades to either motor. Better yet 15k. Who makes more and better power.

[@youtubecomments5951]

@@mugengt142 first off every dyno is different and sea level is different. It’s common knowledge that you can’t get more power out of a f20/22c motor as easily as you can from a k series. And let’s not talk about each engines max power. Cause obviously more cc will give you more power. If the s2000 had a choice between k20a2 and f20c. Then I know which motor I’m going with. K20 will make more torque just because ivtec. Better powerband. It would respond better to bolt ons. And surpassing a f20c with bolt ons. Then once you get into building the engine. The k will blow away the f.

[@youtubecomments5951]

@@mugengt142 It has nothing to do with being broke or not. You have millionaires that spend money on everything and there are millionaires that always count their pennies. And you got broke people doing the same thing.

[@NitroNuggetTV]

@@youtubecomments5951 you're missing the fact that stock for stock they're not that different. Most people will only ever do bolt-on's and a tune at most and be completely content, let alone dump 15k into one or want to swap an entire engine. You'd have to offset the cost, time and complication of swapping a K series before you can even start comparing the two engines, and at that point most people find the cost per performance hard to justify, even when the K series is undoubtedly superior as an engine. None of this stops the F series from still being a damn good engine. The k swap is really only for people who are serious about peak performance.

[@youtubecomments5951]

@@NitroNuggetTV ok I’ll say this then. The k20 is a better platform to start out with and I’ll say again. If the s2000 had a choice of a f20/22 k20/24. I’d go k series all day. So bottom line. The k is a better motor

[@edventures9884]

Damn that s2k’s paint looks brand new! 🔥

[@Basics_of_Gameology]

So clean!

[@rexmikakka]

the production quality of this video was incredible

[@askarov_k]

This is by far one of the best builds I've seen.

[@trollonme]

That's exactly how I want my s2k to look like. Can't wait to get started on mine.

[@Loukisi90]

I would personally go the FI route with supercharger instead of k swapping. F series seems such a good match to the s2000 chassis. An engine that only came on a specific car says a lot. And really you can't beat the OEM plus look. Good build though

[@ClayWong]

Love all the different styles of modifications for these S2000’s!👌🏻

[@bige7186]

Perfectly said 👏👍🏼

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

Well F series isn't specific to S2K , it's a derivative of the fwd prelude and accord engines...

[@kingjay3301]

@@ArtVandelayOfficial different kinds bro

[@justinmurphy7173]

@@ArtVandelayOfficial only thing the same is the letter.

[@bjornsama9649]

I've driven a tuned k24 s2k and driven a lot of stock S2k's. doesn't beat the F series.

[@youtubecomments5951]

I smell ssss

[@JmouaRUAM]

I smell 🧢🧢

[@dudamara]

I am still in love with the F20C. 9000rpm is intoxicating and visceral. TBC still gives me a much more connected feel than the later F22 DBW. I regret the day I sold my 02 AP1. I kept track of it and one of the new owners totalled it :(

[@lazybullitz3821]

Built k24s spin to 10k no problem

[@ulisesavila2879]

@@lazybullitz3821 i doubt it, a k24 7k rpm has piston speed higher than k20 8k rpm, unless destroked even if built that k24 is not going to last that long

[@lazybullitz3821]

@@ulisesavila2879 you must not know much bruh tbh. There is a whole class of cars doing that in the 7's. I think some guys are spinning them to 11k with all billet motors

[@binskee677]

Spoon F20C‘s rev to 11k rpm

[@crxvtec0069]

The F series is superior to the K in stock form in every way. I feel like swapping it out kinda takes away from what the s2000 is and was intended for. The fastest s2000 in the entire world is an f series engine. And there’s so much support for rebuilds of the f series now, there’s literally no reason to go to a k series. Plus, here in Cali we have to stay smog legal so a f series engine swap won’t work. But cool video ✌🏻✌🏻 we will keep our f series alive! We’re a die hard bunch of gear heads that own the s2000.

[@sundaydriver2117]

i know im late but like for the price of k swapping and adding performance parts to it versus keeping the original engine and adding performance parts to it it sounds like youd probably be better off keeping the original engine and be able to add more performance parts to it instead of paying to swap the engine first. like if there was a budget challenge to use only 15k to get the best performance out of these cars the one that didnt get engine swapped would have higher performance because youd have more money to spend on the actual upgrades versus swapping in an engine first. by that point i think youd just be able to spend a little extra on finding a way to make the original engine more powerful and more reliable with the right parts anyways

[@ken3137]

I'm going to love mine since it's built, forged, cammed and built by 4 Pistons. The engine cost more than the s2000 R title shell, then there's turbo parts on top of that cost. Woo! It's going to be a good summer!

[@muhdsyakir9502]

damn where can i follow you on ig to get updates on your build ?

[@Mchea88]

F20C Still legendary, but ain’t nothing wrong with being different 🤙

[@HamHavoc]

I think alot of S owners will be switching to K series. I think I will be once my engine goes out. I am at 208k miles but I keep it back in my mind so when it does go out.

[@AnotherMotorist]

I think for most people remaining F is the way. I'm at 189k miles *knock on wood* no issues. 04/05 F22 FBO w/ greddy EMU. between me and previous owners over 60+ track days and countless touge time. If you need to get competitive, blew your motor etc. that is a whole nother thing though.

[@brianmaton]

Im building an LS turbo mustang currently but the next project I do will most likely be a k series swap. Such a clean and compact motor with great potential. This s2k looks phenomenal, great build 👍🏻

[@AlistairLattimore]

That car looks killer, paint is ultra glossy and sounds amazing :)

[@peterc3143]

I have always wanted a s2000 Honda. Great looking car.

[@DEIYIAN]

Feeling proud of my 2001 Stream with k20a under the bonnet and happy as hell 4 years now. The best family guy's car possible. I call it Shinkansen ;-P Funny, spacious, reliable, trouble-free, stands out in the crowd.

[@samjackson1818]

Such a great engine the k series is especially when turbocharged or ITB, the F series is impressive as well I read somewhere you can get 600-700 hp out of it with stock internals. I don’t know what I would do if I had a s2k keep the F series or go for the K 🤔.

[@foster7517]

i made 600hp on stock unopened engine with e85 an a precision 6262...only payed 12k for the s2k with a metal widebody

[@NathanCAY1010]

Ye i took a interest in the F20C cause wanted to place it in a DC2 and ye their internals come forged from factory so you can run 30psi on a stock F20C block if i'm not mistaken and that's pretty cool

[@Boostisablast]

I made 615whp on c16 and 515whp everything stock besides injectors, clutch, and a full race kit. Made it 4 years of abuse without issue then a head gasket went.

[@omgfroobynoobs]

There's guys pushing 950whp with just valve springs and head studs on f22c1 stock block. You definitely need to have a good tuner.

[@jeffhallii7907]

I’ve never seen someone soooo excited to drive a k-series 😵‍💫

[@fairiesflame1345]

Really good. I hope one day I get an S2000 and enjoy the F20C first, probably with the AP2 transmission. If the F20C gets blown, I'd definitely swap with a K24.

[@richardledesma1675]

I think the f series is right at home, I’d k swap an NA, NB Miata though!

[@anon136]

Been trying to decide if I want a k24 NB or a k24 ft86

[@jamarward8437]

Same

[@scottgardner5918]

@@anon136 I think you just need both. I'll borrow the one you're not driving. Lol.

[@jarraddavies8329]

This is why I’m here as I was going to ls1 swap my nb, but I think I’m sold on this

[@richardledesma1675]

@@anon136 that I swapped 86 would be so fire and unique!

[@mikeCupra]

Its the most beautiful s2k i ve ever seen by far! Great car and video.

[@alstound]

I like to think the S2000 is more than just a faster MX-5. The glorious 9,000 rpm redline is what makes this car special, and you can drive it that way any day of the week. The F20 (F22 in some markets) defines this car more than any other component. Yes, the K series is powerful, reliable, available everywhere and has tons of aftermarket support, but that will pretty much just turn your S2K into a RWD convertible Civic or Accord. It can also lower its resale. You may as well get a much cheaper random Mazda roadster if you’re gonna do the swap. There’s also a folding hardtop option from the third gen onwards.

[@igvtec]

I got a few things this past year from elusive racing for my EG sedan Civic b18c2 build. 😎👍

[@sktaroins]

What's your fb or Instagram would like to see your build

[@marshallcrawford3917]

I had the option of k swap or F24 motor from inline pro… chose inline pro stroker sleeved 2.4 L

[@AndrewChauFitness]

awesome video bro - first video I've seen from you in a while and I'm so proud of how far you've come in terms of video quality, content, presentation and overall presence. well done bro Can't wait to see you explode even more bros

[@christopherpauley8174]

I feel like you have to build the bottom end of a K series to be as good as the bottom end of the f20 or f22. Yes the roller cam on the intake is better in the K, but if you're only talking stock engine vs stock engine you can't take a stock K as far on forced induction as you can an f22 or f20. There are so many f20's and f22s out there in the world with stock internals making 450-500hp and low 300s tq that have 100k plus on the odometer. Something else to consider is that all the video comparisons out there typically compare the K24 and the F20, the most dramatic difference. Very few compare the F22 to the K. The reality is the difference is usually less than 20 HP. The K is all the new hype but the F is still an amazing engine that's more than capable. To me the only way I'm ever considering a K is if I blow up my F22 to the point it can't be rebuilt.

[@trillazun]

Thinking you have a bottom end with a 2.2 or 2.4L is funny

[@christopherpauley8174]

@@trillazun What does that even mean?

[@LegendaryDrumr]

I would give just about anything to have an S2000. Got my first honda in March of 2023, an 8th gen Si coupe. Had 190,000, paint peeling, and some light body damage, but I loved the hell out of that car. Had a motorcycle accident in November of 2022, breaking both my legs. I only got $7k back and $4000 went to getting my car. It was recently stolen on May 1st and I've been sick without it.

[@zokusharuuku1091]

One of my favorite things about the s2000 is the awesome seats that it has that this owner decided to get rid of..

[@binskee677]

But those seats can‘t really hold you in place, i throw them out at swell lol

[@youtubecomments5951]

S2000 seats gots to go

[@kuchektoprak1976]

Never seen something like this it’s mad beautiful

[@asianyangster916]

By far the cleanest S2000 I've ever seen.

[@foster7517]

id say k swap if u plan on racing just cuz there cheaper but i made 600hp on my stock unopened f22 with just e85 an a 6262 precision turbo...it was insane an sounded like an f1 car

[@pzzp3691]

maybe for racing k series is a must, but the uniqueness of the s2k is the f20c/f22c , the agressive vtec crossover is part of the car personality

[@benlevey1976]

How has it affected the weight distribution? Honda spent a lot of time mounting the original engine just right.

[@scottgardner5918]

I was wondering that too with the front engine mid mount design being essentially part of the magic of the chassis and great handling. The k24 has to be substantially heavier. Would cause understeer. In theory.

[@slothgarage4846]

They don't weigh that much different and the K24 is mounted in the same position/angle as the F20, I don't think it upsets the weight distribution at all

[@tomydespins2315]

My k24 is the same weight around than my b18c5 that I had in my EM1 pretty they weight around the same

[@pDn1309]

That S2K is beautiful, a suggestion for future vids Clay? Would you be able to attach a go pro to the bumper so we can hear the exhaust notes on these cars? Or some fly by videos?

[@ClayWong]

Will definitely incorporate more fly bys when possible!😁 I’ve actually had a couple of my Go-Pro’s fall off and some have been lost in the process🤣 String method doesn’t always sit nicely with the owners either..

[@CapeFilms]

I understand if your on a budget buying a k20/24 from a wrecker or parts car but the f20/22c can’t be beat

[@Phenixzero]

This body kit looks stunning!

[@0nTheRedline]

Great vid. For what it’s worth tho - getting rid of the F engine means your killing the value on these fast appreciating cars in original trim.

[@aaronmeldrum8456]

Agree but also disagree... current market conditions dont seem to give an F about mods or not... and the body of this car is highly modified so I doubt "orginality" is really priority to them...

[@ClayWong]

I gotta agree with you on that! Some owners just prefer fun over value though. I think a stock example is honestly not as fun and explains why there is such a huge aftermarket support for the S2000.😁

[@alexinanalogue2645]

Wow, one of the best cars you've featured. I was leaning towards buying a clean low km S2000 nearly 3 years ago but got my Mustang on a wim due to being a fantastic deal. I have to admit I think about that S2000 a fair bit and what could have been.

[@ramonbriones4487]

:/

[@OriginalAse]

:/

[@alexinanalogue2645]

@@OriginalAse yeah, that's how I feel about it.......

[@xWheatThinz]

Sux 2 B You

[@alexinanalogue2645]

@@xWheatThinz It’s alright, I will have opportunities to get one cheap during these next few years if it’s what I still want.

[@karlo134652]

Good lord Im in love with the aesthetics of that car.

[@FaeraOthronus]

I'm keeping my 9k rpm redline. I bought an S2K that had the engine pulled apart and out of the car, and I still paid to fix it and put it back in rather than k swap it.

[@aarr2603]

K20 might be a better engine and produce way more power with mods specially in a NA set up where the f20 is pretty much maxed out. But I still love the f20/f22 it has its own sound that I love, unless it blows maybe I’ll consider a k20/24.

[@PuReGhOsTT]

im good. ill keep my F20C :) best engine ever

[@cb8143]

Nice job describing this stunning build. You earned a subscriber.

[@sketchyhondas8061]

For a street car that you just cruise with keep the F series. For track use highly recommend going k series. Its alot cheaper to buy a $1000 long block than it is to chase down another F series for a reasonable price.

[@masonvang1]

That S2k is literally perfect.

[@bige7186]

If only it had an f series in it☹️

[@tomydespins2315]

@@bige7186 you are delusional

[@0mniVerse777]

@@tomydespins2315 u sound like a K-fanboy

[@tomydespins2315]

@@0mniVerse777 simply realistic if F series was that superior it is them you will in awd swap civic and in world time attack championship … wide power band it better than peak power

[@b.maler7697]

A big trend in the US is F24 builds. Makes lots of power and decent torque but reliability is better and overall a cheaper swap than going full K24. I know a couple grassroots racers who run K series and most seem to end up regretting it. This is strickly due to reliability issues. Lots of vibration problems and things breaking under dedicated track use. Plus side is they're very cheap for a short block but then it could cost you a weekend, a race and time.. Definitely like to see further improvements from the aftermarket with the K series in ap1/2 s2000s. I'm running a 120k mile F20 lightly modified and tuned. Track it once a month and has been extremely reliable.

[@dnahva8965]

So glad I got myself a Acura TSX 2004 k24 I LoVE driving it!

[@belss89]

Sick video. Next time can give us some time with the car sounds only. Would have liked to hear that thing through a few gears by itself.

[@AnDrEw122100]

What an absolute beauty .

[@digitaltactics9234]

You had me at Air conditioning 🤣 AC is must for me.

[@darkknight097]

Only way I'm swapping in a k24 over my f22 is if it blows. Something about swapping a Honda odyssey engine in an s2k just doesn't seem right to me lol

[@sammietam4201]

Not here for the K swap, I am here to for the cosmetic goods on the S2k. Looks pretty clean and aggressive 😏

[@allenrowdy810]

Good lord that thing is Gorgeous

[@omglawton]

Nah my homie had a spoon f22 all motor. Fastest car Ive ever been in. Sounded so good.

[@BlueRice]

Finally someone recognized k series is better and has better potential than f series. F series is good by no means. It's bullet proof but k series has better tuning capabilities and better torque band from low to high.

[@brunomanco7529]

I allways considered this comparation unfair. U are comparing the same gearbox with a k24/k20 that has more hp with "shorter gearing". To compare same engine and gearbox capability u should compare something like: f20c with 4.7 fd; f22c with 4.55 fd; k24/20 with a 3.8 fd. The only direct comparation i had was the k24/k20 head (all stock with dc5 cams) vs f20c, both with the same gearbox. Of course k24 wins hands down because it has less top speed but more aceleration. But put a 4.7 final drive or even shorter in the f20c and compare again

[@JimS870]

What an absolutely stunning looking car. Wouldn't change a thing.

[@kekoasawyer516]

This guy reviewed this car perfectly.

[@JFomo]

Red Hondas always look the biz. Love it.

[@genodanao508]

I had one in 2000, best car I've ever owned.

[@Carlitosway211]

I'm still tweaking my F22 until she blows. Then I might go K series. Buuuttt. I have a J35A8 on the shelf I'm also thinking about putting in there next.

[@amnosiagaming3535]

been trying to get my hands on one, and I'm sure it was in the video and I just didn't hear it, but where can I get a k24a3 engine? I live in Michigan so not a lot of car enthusiast here so i cant just go into a shop and there it is.

[@cidfacetious3722]

It’s not cheaper if you add in the cost of the swap itself you’re already out five to 6K you can have a reliable 500 hp F-series for that kind of money. Know if money is no object to you then yeah I would agree. The K-series probably is the battery engine if you’re trying to build it.

[@robertoimperial9746]

What are the wheel and tire specs? Any spacers?

[@JasonWoodard]

Love the car BUT what camera was used for the B Roll during that first minute???? Sooo good!

[@hoonwithgman]

Amazing content as always, love your show Clay. ❤️

[@j.osborne4914]

Install looks super clean. Is all that aero on the front street legal?

[@sf2372]

What a car. Oh SHt that was westall road... cool. My neck of the woods. Just got to keep an eye out for HWP at the top hehehe

[@joeyriveira6697]

Beautiful S2000 so much attention to detail . I know the intake from the F20 is a bolt on to the K20/24 . Is they exhaust manifold the same ??

[@youtubeisinconsistent9169]

Depends on what your goal is with the car. Keep it niche for collectibility, or make it easier to make power and cheaper to find parts?

[@toks0ner156]

Sick setup😮😮😮

[@shameelmohammed7162]

Beautiful build, I love it.

[@Roman-zq8wp]

Impressive camera work in the intro.

[@BDSasquatch]

6:40 “before we get started on this video” Sir it’s half way over already lol

[@luismarty1685]

Hello, great video. I have a 2008 Honda Accord coupe 2.4l that I need to do a stock rebuild on. Can you please recommend a brand and/or parts store where I can buy high quality engines parts like pistons, rings and bearings.

[@MustangFastback]

WOW that thing is beautiful

[@Mochabear73]

This is just a nice and beautiful S2000…

[@2K8Si]

I always laugh when I see the YT auto captions describing the K engine as 'music' when it's running.... LMAO.

[@tripleemce5003]

Are the over fenders put on with double sided tape? Really interested in them

[@khmerboogietonnaboy5757]

My ap2 have all bolt on and made 234whp .Fseries all the way !! And we sound better

[@bige7186]

Yes definitely 💪🏼

[@misterle7026]

I saw a Prius passed you while you down shifted. 😆

[@KillianWirjadi-xf9dp]

What engine mounts did u use? Looking to kswap it into a toyota celica

[@gran4259]

Hello Sir could I do a K24 into my Ford Cougar . Sorry for asking but I really want to do it.

[@spacewizard69r96]

320kw/430bhp supercharged here 👋🏼🏎️

[@statusquoreject]

As awesome as the k series is, an s2k is truly not an s2k without a f series under the hood

[@PeefMidgar]

ITB's would make this car amazing.

[@bobby1970]

Either engine is more than plenty good enough. It's Honda, so it's gonna be good, regardless.

[@asraful-asif]

Where are you from this car is amazing

[@clayyu4886]

what type of fenders and front bumper does this thing have??

[@TofuProductionCinema]

This is so clean. MY04 is still mint but I'm terrified of boosting it.... but this is some cool shit.

[@lateralbeats]

The sound is mint, but seems slow? What's the 0-100kmh?

[@jackcyliu]

those fender vents... what kind? where to get one?

[@MikinGarage]

Damn that car is gorgeous

[@justcallmeRhys]

S2K pure sport car,the master piece。

[@Jbpgarage]

Nice, my next build but with a turbo!

[@DJJDSKREWED]

BEAUTIFUL CAR!

[@Subzero2281]

Beautiful!!

[@mantis-toboggan62]

Fucking Mint S2K. I once heard the F20C is essentially a FWD motor that was made RWD using an adapter plate. The more I see video's like this I sit back on the fence about selling my AP1. Great video Clay!

[@mantis-toboggan62]

BTW I've had my S2K since 2011 still has under 200K on the clock ;)

[@taylormeyer671]

The F20C was a purpose built motor specifically for the S2000 and nothing else. It was always a rear wheel drive motor