This Jubilee Panel About Interracial Relationships Got A Little Uncomfortable...

Definitely some hot takes in this one... get ready 😳
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[@harbours.]

I’m a white guy dating a half white half Arab girl whose Arab dad wants her to be with an Arab man, even though ironically he himself is married to a white woman.

[@cthulhutheendless1587]

My Asian mom is the same way, even though she married my white dad

[@sypherthe297th2]

Wow. That is some really confused nonsense.

[@reddymon]

Sounds like a gender thing. A guy may do whatever he wants but a woman needs to toe the line.

[@Nervene]

i dated a Moroccan girl for a while and her dad was the same way. He would leave the house anytime i came over but was married to a white woman

[@killerkadaver205]

I've noticed it's a common trait amongst all races/cultures. Men can date any Women of their choosing, but if a woman dates outside her race she's seen as promiscuous. I think (in general) men feel a certain ownership of women and women enter interracial relationships, men feel like their being robbed of what's "theirs"

[@SirKemzyGodle]

The moment I read “Jubilee” and “Interracial” in the same sentence I knew it would be good.

[@AxxLAfriku]

AAAAAAHHHHH!!!! PAAAAAIIIINNNN!!!!!! I broke my hand yesterday because of the hate comments I get all the time. I was so angry that I punched a hole in my computer. Please don't hate me, dear sie

[@SalinaBabba8343]

So... This DOESN'T have anything to do with the X-Men?? ... Damn 😔

[@josh-oo]

@@SalinaBabba8343 I'm just as sad as you are. Jubilee needs more time in the spotlight.

[@spdnb]

@Nova Hrvatska I find that people cling to their particular culture especially if they benefit from customs that hurt other demographics of people in that culture. I also think the danger and degradation of others for one's personal comfort is not an appropriate or acceptable bargain. But I'm just weird like that.

[@SalinaBabba8343]

@Nova Hrvatska culture always shifts and changes with the flow of time. That's a very... conservative view. It also depends on what time period of culture you are trying to "preserve". 1820? 1950? Culture is changed by the unchanging march of time. You can try to fight it. Good luck with that though

[@katarinam7781]

I just lost my mind at 1:00.... That's literally MY MEME, i made it 9 months ago. Can't belive i got featured on a Vaush stream, this just made my week

[@skarrx2416]

You are a chad! nice meme :)

[@jazzlordofbaby2910]

W O M A N D E T E C T E D

[@katarinam7781]

Based Fascist you literally call YOURSELF based, idk what’s more pathetic and inscure than that

[@ehhh5783]

@@katarinam7781 ok but did you srsly choose to make fun of the based part when..they're a literal fascist?? lmaoo /nm /lh

[@Hanfgurkenhasser]

@@ehhh5783 Name checks out.

[@emmettyoung7603]

i’m in an interracial couple and jesus this hurts. i don’t pretend to be an expert, but interracial relationships i’ve seen are literally just regular relationships.

[@marciamakesmusic]

I mean, this isn't true unless you unironically believe racism is over. Sure, there aren't any inherent differences between interracial and other relationships, but there can be very real anxieties about them from the people involved. Jordan Peele made a whole ass horror movie about the existential dread he felt visiting his white girlfriend's liberal family, because of the way they act around a single black man. Hell, I've dated a hispanic woman and her family was incredibly weird about our relationship. There's nothing immoral or wrong with interracial relationships, simultaneously we shouldn't pretend there aren't weird social hangups around them that make participating in them challenging at times.

[@Usagi393]

I can’t relate to this. Since being in an interracial relationship, I can only talk to my SO in reverse Klingon.

[@emmettyoung7603]

@@marciamakesmusic fair enough, but for me at least there’s more of a hang up in my family about her not being catholic than her being asian. i also think that things like this create more awkwardness than understanding

[@crowned2088]

@@emmettyoung7603 That's not race then, it's more culture..

[@pleasedyes]

@@crowned2088 still cringe but not as bad

[@braxinIV]

On the " I wish we were the same race" question, I immediately thought of the Fairly Odd Parents episode where everyone gets turned into grey blobs. We would definitely still find ways to separate each other. "I'm the greyest and the blobbiest!"

[@gregvs.theworld451]

Agreed. I often think of it like how some young kids can be little shits at school and find any number of dumb reasons for picking on another kid. Dumb lunchbox, weird hair color, wrong backpack, etc., or the point a lot of leftist YTers make about fascists that, even if they did ever "cleanse" society of all other races, or whoever they have a grudge against, their frenzied outgroup paranoia wouldn't end, they'd jut shift the goalposts. If it's white nationalists, once all the non whites are gone, then it'll be all the gays, then all the non aryans, then people with long hair and colorful clothes, then anyone who has an index finger longer than their ring finger, etc, etc, etc. It's honestly one of those things that's interesting to ponder, whether humanity could ever reach a point where we don't make out groups, or if othering will always exist on some level, but that's also such a far off end point that it feels like there's little point pondering it too hard since most likely neither of us will see it in either of our lifetimes combined, and then take the number of our combined years multiplied tenfold and we'd still be super far off from a theorized endpoint.

[@NinjaLobsterStudios]

@@gregvs.theworld451 unfortunately I think we'll always be predisposed to make in-groups and out-groups, but I think we are also intelligent enough to recognize that and recognize how bullshit some categories are and how even if the categories exist there's no reason to dehumanize based on the categories.

[@AlexRoseLebreton]

On the “is there any benefits to dating a different race?” One of the black men decide to walk over to strongly disagree only for his white partner to heckle him into changing his answer… he does. LET HIM HAVE HIS OPINION LIKE DAMN. Let his ass talk.

[@swagmund_freud6669]

Racial distinctions exist because of socio-historic reasons. Arbitary in group/out-group distinctions do not come about just because. Black Africans were, in pre-colonial times, not seen as necessarily less than Europeans. Europe actually mythologized a black christian king in Ethiopia, Prester John, whose civilization they believed to be equal or even greater than that of Europe. When the European merchants visited West Africa, they saw a culture as flourishing and vibrant as European culture. Black people only became othered and racialized when the need for it occurred in the Americas, where Slavery was the dominant economic institutions post-colonial conquests. To believe Black people are less human than you allows you to morally justify the cruelty of slavery. *All* modern American racism towards black people is a descendant of this sociological need for racism. A similar need resulted in discrimination against Indigenous people, Hispanics, etc. Humanity does not need to be racist.

[@3112-x9r]

Honestly though, interracial is definitely a vice. We are fortunate as humans to live in a world where there are people of all sorts of racial backgrounds. I would not want to pass on to my posterity a world that is bereft of diversity in which everybody is the same mixed-race. Variety is the spice of life.

[@leanna3625]

I've dated Asian people before and absolutely no one had a problem with it. But a black boy at my school had a crush and was pursuing/flirting with me, and all of a sudden everyone I knew just had to give me their unsolicited opinion.

[@sownheard]

😥 Sad but yeah anti interracial people always show up when it involves black man.

[@marijs5068]

yup. theres something about a black man-/white woman relationships that gets people riled up

[@onlychild5213]

@@marijs5068 it’s called being the biggest single mother making demographic lol

[@dinodare1605]

@@onlychild5213 Why? Also, citation needed.

[@onlychild5213]

@@dinodare1605 the lived experience of 80% of BW is enough of a citation?

[@DevNominal]

"they'd probably mostly be voting Republican if Republicans weren't racist." I've said this exact thing in the r/conservative subreddit and got blocked lol

[@puffinatheart5565]

Wear it as a badge of honor

[@100Stratusfiedx]

But it really is the truth. Most minorities especially immigrants tend to be more socially conservative.

[@yoboiboy4182]

@@100Stratusfiedx the immigrants part is so freaking true. Republicans could easily win every election if they just stopped being racist for a bit.

[@Liliputian07]

@@yoboiboy4182 good thing theyre stupid and evil

[@mikkocordova4122]

@@Liliputian07 democrats can be racist too im asian my family experience more racist remark coming from liberal

[@grapeshot]

Interracial relationships only seem to be a problem when Black men do it. Because when I was stationed over in Japan and South Korea a lot of the white guys believe it or not would get angry if they saw Asian women dating Black men. It didn't seem to be a problem when they did it. But then again I get this vibe from a lot of white guys that they feel like frankly all Asian women belong to them.

[@krs1297]

They were just hella racist

[@lurkingposter]

That don't want the competition

[@phanatic215]

@@krs1297 pretty much. Racism itself a combination of a lot of emotions including envy and self esteem issues. If a person doesn't want someone dating a person because one of the people is a bank robber or a child murderer, yeah I can agree with that bit of relationship commentary.

[@chilldragon4752]

I'm white and my wife is chinese, and I agree. People have more of a problem when a black man is with a white, asian, ect partner. Personally I'm happy to see interracial couples no matter what their race is because it gives me hope for the future in that people can be more open and focus on the inside more than the out.

[@GayTier1Operator]

people don’t like white guys with black women too

[@gudboah4688]

Interracial relationships are just normal relationships. Ffs I think the internet has warped that perception for a lot of people.

[@milkandspice1074]

Exactly!

[@jamalhartley5863]

They are normal relationships. But there are certain background factors and nuances that can make it an interesting topic of discussion. And i don't think acting like these things aren't a factor is the way to go either.

[@sirticklebear5983]

@@jamalhartley5863 What background factors and nuances?

[@jamalhartley5863]

@@sirticklebear5983 Well the parents biases toward that race. Also the stereotypes that exist. Certain cultural activities or notions about the race/ethnic group that may be popularized but misinformed. (ie the good natured white woman who doesn't see race, the black guy who may be too black or not black enough, calling a Spanish speaking person Mexican). How your family treats your partner, or say about them when they aren't around. Not respecting cultural differences. Biases in attitudes, and just how the outside world perceives you. It's honestly too many things for me to list at this moment. It just doesn't hurt to be conscious. of these things.

[@Fordragon]

I think you've got it backwards. Being a part of online left-wing communities blinds you to the fact that topics like this are still a big point of discussion in much of the real world. It shouldn't be, but it definitely is.

[@Putri-iu4bc]

I'm mixed race, so literally all my relationships are interracial, but I dated this black guy and man did his family, but mostly his mom, not like me. It really was about that "betraying your race" thing, and I think it should be discussed more since it is pretty shitty for all parties involved ngl

[@eduardotejerasosa8476]

@@wongwong1517 oh look i found the racist.

[@IBBMS]

Did they say this or is this just your conjecture? Sounds like you’re just guessing. Maybe they didn’t like you b/c you make assumptions like this.

[@Putri-iu4bc]

@@wongwong1517 honestly wondering if this is bait or if you just didnt read my comment right. I was speaking about his parents, not mine, and I didnt even mention children of mixed couples (who are, shockingly, still visibly the children of the couple. Have you never met a mixed person before or), I was speaking abt the prevalence of mostly black ppl wanting to stick within the racial pool and how it can be quite shitty

[@eduardotejerasosa8476]

@@Putri-iu4bc it is 100% racist bait and that guy is a racist troll. He knows what you said he just felt the need to tell you you were a mistake for being born mixed.

[@Putri-iu4bc]

@@IBBMS it was already obvious from her behavior, but once on a call w him, I heard her say smth in the bg in her native tongue, and he explained to me that she wasnt happy about him dating a brown girl when he used to be just w black girls. Obviously what she actually said was a little more offensive, but yk.

[@FafliXx]

"As a white person" ahhh please stop talking I'm literally dying of cringe please help me

[@falafeldurum2095]

me too the moment you realize she's basically saying "I'm not racist but cause I'm white I guess I am"

[@shecklesmack9563]

Conservative ammunition

[@twitchtheking4950]

Like Vaush said her heart was is in the right place but the virtue signaling is a really bad look.

[@WolfenX4]

@@falafeldurum2095 that was a direct translation

[@shecklesmack9563]

@KGB - Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti well... you’re not wrong about that at least 🤔

[@Twisthle]

This "heh white guys always fetishize asian women" trope gets really tiring really quickly. I know people like showing how conscious they are of a given problem but I'd appreciate if people stopped dismissing my relationship and assuming I have no reason at all to love my girlfriend.

[@Twisthle]

@@chillin5703 completely agree. But sometimes it feels like people take it too far on the other direction and act as if other than a racial fetish there's zero reason for such relationships to form at all.

[@malum9478]

my advice is to not take it personally if it doesn't concern you. like when we say "white people are racist", we're obviously not talking about all white people. we're talking about trends, groups, or specific people--and you don't take it personally because you know that. obviously not every white guy that gets with an asian girl is because he's got some weird fetish shit goin on, but the fact that it's so common AND that there is a precedent of weird fetish shit is worth noting.

[@markzuckergecko621]

@@Twisthle why do you care about other people validating why you love your girlfriend? You don't need to justify that to anyone, (except maybe her parents, I understand why that can be a pain in the ass), but otherwise, who cares? That's between you and her.

[@kindredspirit9703]

@@markzuckergecko621 Having other people act as if you are dishonest can be tiring. It's hard to be 100% based 24/7

[@markzuckergecko621]

@@kindredspirit9703 a lot of things about relationships can be tiring.

[@dinodare1605]

Black grandparents tend to have some (often significant) degree of racism against white people, because they can't shake feelings that all white people are secretly racist against them. They can't accept that in their current time or current area, things may be at least slightly better. If they grew up in the rural south and had a bunch of negative experiences growing up with racism, then even when living in an entirely different, progressive, majority-democrat urban area, the concern of being discriminated against is equally powerful. If you're white, they may be polite to you in conversation, but they are going to analyze every aspect of your interaction HEAVILY. Because the default assumption is that you think lowly of them. Best case scenario is that they get used to you as an in-law, and you become one of the exceptions. It's pretty bad. The reasons that they feel that way tend to reinforce my point. My grandmother doesnt like it when rich black celebrities get with poorer white women, because she thinks that she would have had opportunities to get that rich elsewise due to her race, and he should have pulled a sister out of the gutters. It doesnt excuse the racism, and is still really bad logic. But the only way to really "understand" is to get the answers from them. I don't really have to do much work to get these answers, because I'm black and these are my family. But if you can find any older black people who are willing to be honest with you, I'd definitely chat it out with them. Don't do it with younger people who feel the same way, they're always insane.

[@MrGksarathy]

That sounds a lot like what ContraPoints says in her envy video. This is envy in its most destructive form.

[@Meowwwwwwww2]

@@MrGksarathy it’s not envy, it’s the product of being born around a time where most white people did they lowly of them lmao. That’s trauma. Doesn’t make what they do right, but envy is more so leftist freaking out over a lefty streamer buying a house than being skeptical that the same white people who spit on you and called you the n word have changed.

[@MrGksarathy]

@@Meowwwwwwww2 I was more referring to the resenting any famous black man who dates a white woman because they could have uplifted a sister again, but generally, that whole feeling of resentment falls under envy.

[@IBBMS]

Idk if you're a teenager or have young parents, but grandparents? Them too, but for a lot of us it's our parents/aunts and uncles. It wasn't that long ago as people like to pretend. To this point, I have two aunties who are RACIST as hell. Oh, they call white people all kinds of demons and say they can't be trusted. However, they also grew up in the 50s and 60s in rural Louisiana (and later Texas) before and slightly after Brown v. Board of Education and before the Civil Rights Movement culminated. So, am I that worried about their prejudice against white people? No. It makes sense to be frank and the logic isn't as silly as you suggest (in my opinion but do you). As for younger people who do this, like you said, I think its catharsis and envy (CONTRA) but obviously envy in the sense as contra described and not in the layman sense of the term.

[@MrGksarathy]

@@IBBMS Even if it's justified with your aunties, it's still envy as Contra describes it. That kind of envy isn't always unwarranted or even a bad thing.

[@BrandonPilcher]

I think preferences are OK if it's simply about who you find physically attractive. The problem comes in when you attach cultural (or sexual) stereotypes to certain races. There's a difference between (for example) "I think Black women are hot" and "I think Black women are naturally better in bed" since the latter is less about physical attractiveness and more about an assumption about a racialized "culture" (and one typically rooted in racist ideas of Black women and men as being naturally promiscuous). The latter is just racist.

[@themangoman9315]

True I just find Asians hot but I don't think there sex gods or some neck beard shit

[@bobbirdsong6825]

based

[@Chrisfb-oo9mr]

Sorry I don't really understand, which one is racist?

[@illsaveus]

YOU GOTTA HAVE A DESIGNATED WHITE BOI. Never leave home without one

[@alliesakat]

Do me and my other half-white friend count as a full white boi

[@phataldestroyer]

@@alliesakat If there was 3 of you You'd be a fifth of a way there! I'm not proud of myself :(

[@malum9478]

@@phataldestroyer space the last part down a few so that you need to 'read more' to see it and this'll be a solid meme.

[@buddingdufus]

@@alliesakat only if you look white Because race has fuck all to do with actual genetics

[@Silverhawk100]

It's why I'm in the DWB program. So unprivileged black guys can talk to customer service in a relaxed fashion.

[@turonparker4552]

I watched the original video with my gf cuz we're an interracial relationship and oh boy 😭 we either disagreed with every prompt or just cringed through the whole video

[@simonguiri9628]

We just cringed

[@turonparker4552]

@@simonguiri9628 massive amounts of cringe amirite?

[@simonguiri9628]

@@turonparker4552 Sí, I realy got crazy when the white dude was talking about "bringing race in the bedroom" so to speak. The fuck you do with others persons race in the beedroom? And later on the black dudes talking about being traitors to their race! I mean, get fucking over yourself. If you think that race is something you can betray by loving the person you love, then there is realy something messed up

[@turonparker4552]

@@simonguiri9628 well in the black guys defense, he's more so discussing a larger issue within our community where we aren't so kind to interracial relationships. Theres a serious amount of guilt there that can't simply be "gotten over" until our community addresses it. We're getting better tho

[@simonguiri9628]

@@turonparker4552 Yeah, in the USA I kinda get where you are coming from. I mean my brother is married with a woman from África and cuz they didnt suffer whites against blacks racism but arabics against black racism, they where realy open about it. But I mean its just weard for me, I mean if my girlfriends mother or somenone would say that its a chame that Iam german and not hispanic latino, I would feel realy uncomfortable. Like I said, I get where you are coming from but for the partner it can be realy dificult

[@doc7000]

Notice that all of the problems comes down to society at large and not the people in a relationship.

[@Spongebrain97]

Yeah aside from minor pet peeves, they don't seem like weird or bad people

[@markzuckergecko621]

If society influences your relationships to that extent, then the problem is you.

[@doc7000]

@@markzuckergecko621 you say that yet societies influence the vast majority of the people in it.

[@markzuckergecko621]

@@doc7000 so why do some people care and others don't?

[@brya9681]

Very much so

[@theflaggeddragon9472]

I second Q O's comment that Vaush should talk to Earthling Ed. He's a really informative vegan KZbinr, and they could have some solid convos.

[@Firm-Tofu-King]

Skip ed and tackle the hardest opponent - vegan gains

[@Alvis44]

@@Firm-Tofu-King i think ed is smarter imo, he does way more actual activism. Unless you were joking lol

[@brandonvestra]

@@Firm-Tofu-King He's already talked to Vegan Gains; the name of the VOD is "Yelling at My Chat, Angrily".

[@Firm-Tofu-King]

@@Alvis44 I think ed is slightly behind vegan gains

[@anmolt3840051]

Who is that vegan youtuber lady who tried to prove that only capitalists could be vegans ?

[@thevenbede767]

Bro I've never even thought about what race I want my kids to be. I wouldn't know where to go

[@veggie9755]

Yeah it's odd to me when people talk about having kids and automatically assume that they'll look a certain way. Like a white woman with blonde hair saying "I can't wait to have a blonde haired blue eyed daughter running around someday!" Or saying "I'm going to have the most beautiful mixed kids one day" when they don't even know who they're going to end up having kids with, or how the genetics will mix. It's like they see kids as an accessory rather than an actual person

[@maxinesenior596]

@@veggie9755 an accessory to get to love you and then take care of you later on

[@madeline5493]

As an English teacher, I’ve met some women in Japan who date a race specifically to get mixed babies. Like, it’s one thing to have a preference or fetish (as long as both parties are happy I guess) but just for the purpose of making kids??? The funniest/most tragic are the fully 100% Japanese women who think a white man will give them blonde-haired, blue-eyed babies. Oh no, honey. No one told you…

[@kx7500]

Some people get hot at the idea of genetic diversity and the breeding link and all that

[@rishabhanand4973]

6:06 nah, i think you misheard. she didn't make fun of his mom. _he_ made fun of his mom, and then she made fun of _him_ making fun of his mom.

[@OpqHMg]

Right! Exactly

[@gfox-ck5xx]

"I'm really into genetics" yikes.

[@nicoruppert4207]

Dude just wants to see what happens when you press the randomise button. But seriously, people can like genetics and not be eugenics defenders.

[@dinodare1605]

You do realize that a lot of people are "really into genetics," right? That's not really a yikes. It's a fascinating science that normally has nothing to do with race.

[@0498kizerb]

Be aware that for black/white mixed people, some consider themselves mixed and some consider themselves black. When a black person dates a mixed black/white person, most of the times that’s not considered an interracial relationship. Whereas for white dating black/white, it’s typically considered interracial dating. That’s why it can appear that black people have a lower interracial dating rate. It’s the same for other black/mixed people. Also, most black people are very much mixed people due to slavery and living with some Native American tribes

[@milkandspice1074]

That's a good point. Aldo the racial integrity laws (it effected my tribe as well).

[@acjimenez94]

I wonder how it is in Africa. I know for Latinos we internally consider it an interracial relationship (have mercy definition debate lords) if a Mexican dates a Costa Rican or a Guatemalan

[@0498kizerb]

@@acjimenez94 I’m not too familiar with Africa, but it probably similar to Latinos. I don’t think Somalians and Ethiopian and Nigerians consider themselves the same race, if it’s even understood in a similar way as a concept. It’s also strange how we group Latinos in America. You have white Latinos, black Latinos (I should’ve thought about that in my original post), Native American Latinos (south, central, and North American indigenous people) and a variety of mixtures in between. With Spanish and/or Portuguese speakers

[@yoboiboy4182]

@@0498kizerb Africans have their biases too. My family is Nigerian and my dad was PISSED when my sister dated a Ghanaian dude. It’s not only that but it exists within the country in an ethnic level too. My uncle and aunt weren’t happy when my cousin married a man of Igbo descent. Shit is so complicated.

[@itsbeyondme5560]

Most blacks aren't mixed. Are you stupid

[@DahliaLegacy]

Honestly, as a hedonistic person, I want a harem of all cultures so I can eat everyone's food. lol Also, having a harem would be fun in other ways. lol

[@TheAsyouwysh]

cuddle piles?

[@bea-ti9rg]

@@TheAsyouwysh cuddle piles.

[@malum9478]

this is the correct take

[@Liliputian07]

or: polyamory, which is like a harem but not with a weird power differential

[@thatindiandude4602]

So you want to OWN other cultures ha? SMH 😡

[@jerryturgin6583]

I am half Cherokee and when my grandparents were alive they SUPER didn't like that I was pale skinned. My entire facial features are super super super Cherokee, but I have irish skin tone, and most white ppl don't notice it but any time I walk on a reservation or see that family they say I look bizarre

[@sacbeme]

All preferences are fetishes. One day we'll understand this.

[@thephoenix756]

Not for your own. You're only loving a version of yourself if you date or marry within your ethnicity.

[@sacbeme]

@@thephoenix756 even if it's your own. You're working on a standard and you're applying that standard to others who look & are culturally similar to you. It's a fetish because you're desiring a symbol or object of a phenome type. That's a fetish my G

[@msgirly6827]

@@thephoenix756 i like this take lol

[@joshuamoon9312]

@@thephoenix756 nah

[@SvenDzahov]

White man, black girlfriend. We moved in-together about half a year ago and when I tell you her utter *shock* upon seeing me season a steak. She genuinely thought white people didn’t season food at all. That was a good laugh. Serious note, Idk though I find it hard to be genuinely racist towards your partner. After you’ve seen someone fart while having sex it kinda melts away any preconceived notions of what a person is based on expectation rather than embracing a person for who you discover them as.

[@GhGh-ci8ld]

not the sex fart 🥲

[@em.415]

The issue of interracial dating in the black community is even more nuanced than that. Even socially liberal black people have an issue with it at times. Because white supremacy can impact who you choose to date. A black man who grew up in America probably would have been taught that whiteness was the standard of beauty. As a result women who are either white or who are as close to whiteness as possible are seen as more attractive. Or a black woman may see a white man as attractive because she wants her child to have “good hair”. This is a result of colonization and white supremacy that even black leftists will point out when it comes to IR dating. That being said, date who you want to date. There is a difference between falling in love with someone who happens to be another race and dating someone because they are that race.

[@Ringoshiiro]

@@jatsko3113 I think I know which tiktoker O M is talking about, and if they respond with that video, their argument will not look as strong.

[@surduo4282]

@@OM-wl7qe wasn't that the TikToker who was arguing for segregation? I think that's a little bit more than just having an opinion he didn't like. You should have been more honest with your comment :/

[@LimitedSpectrum]

I've heard of the race betraying thing when it comes to black men + white women, but as a very white dude dating a pretty dark chick, I've never felt any of that judgement coming towards her. In fact, it's the complete opposite, as people of all kinds of races are pretty supportive. There's this one nice black grandpa that we've seen a few times at the mall by my house that always says "how'd you get so lucky?" to me.

[@deepfried3987]

Because black girls aren’t fetishised like black guys are, so the black guys get the flack for leaving ‘unwanted’ black girls behind and therefore betraying their race.

[@msgirly6827]

Trust me when i say, black women get the race traitor thing alot.

[@surduo4282]

@@msgirly6827 Yeah... Tiktoks reaction to Zendeya and Tom Holland wasn't pretty

[@etherealsky7078]

Okay but all of chat going “bOoBaS” when Grace was talking was disrespectful and gross, kinda sad Vaush didn’t call them out.

[@RespectTheSourceMaterial]

lol relax

[@TheExterminatorGuy]

Yeah I agree. It’s like the pepe posting whenever a Jewish person comes on screen. It really needs to stop, and I hope Vaush or mods get harsher on it.

[@somenerd849]

Right, like out of everything that was being said, that’s the thing you decide to focus on?

[@RespectTheSourceMaterial]

@Lenny Boi hehe well time to leave vaush's community too then? Careful there buddy you'll be left out of communities in the end.

[@mariomario4068]

@Lenny Boi lmao kiddo it's funny because she's attractive. Your buzzwords are cringe

[@chilldragon4752]

I think people like whatever they like and as long as they are honest about it and their partner is cool with it then who cares

[@boilingsnowwater2121]

That sounds like commie talk.

[@chilldragon4752]

@@boilingsnowwater2121 I've been compromised..

[@GlitzPixie]

for the most part yeah but when that starts to look like a whole society being biased towards certain races it makes sense to ask why. Like I'm personally most attracted to white women, and I know it's not an inherent thing, it's because white beauty standards are the norm in the culture I was raised in and I live in a community that's very much white. That shit has an effect on people who aren't held up the same way, and being a little more conscious about representation in media and having diverse communities helps (though obviously the goal of that isn't mainly or exclusively changing who people are attracted to and you still shouldn't ever feel bad about who you are attracted to or try to force yourself to like anyone)

[@chilldragon4752]

@@GlitzPixie I see what you mean. But I think of course you can address and acknowledge the white beauty standards in society, and still be attracted to white women. I believe these are two different things. Because when we are talking about white beauty standards we are talking about social issues, when you say you are attracted to white women this is something that is coming from inside of you, this is your own individual attraction. I'm gonna make a terrible example, I like cake...most people like cake as well and I know that. But I still like it anyway and the fact that I like it has nothing to do with the fact that generally most people like it. Sorry for rambling.

[@domm5715]

@@GlitzPixie do you live in US or UK? (a majority white country)?? Cuz i think that maybe you would have changes to that if you lived somewhere else, for example i lived in south America and found my preferences changing the longer i lived there...

[@isaacroot5459]

Vaush is also missing the colorist angle at the betraying your race question. Lots of black women feel like like black men only choose white girls or light skinned black girls. That’s a conversation a lot of black feminists talk abt

[@gamerbull2183]

It's insecurities

[@mgm8075]

Which is a weird position because you could argue majority of black men date brown skin or dark skin girls. They overwhelmingly marry black. That talking point confuses me.

[@sumanoskae]

I dunno man, acting like people are morally obligated to date you sounds like some incel shit to me. Not saying the two ideas are equally harmful or come from the same place, but both of them are treating the body of another person as of it were an object which can be possessed. Your body ought to belong only to you; you don't owe it to anyone. Period.

[@yoboiboy4182]

@@sumanoskae yeah but it’s not just dating tho. I hear other black men say things like “you’re too dark for me” when talking to black women. It’s more so the colorism rather than just the dating aspect of it.

[@yoboiboy4182]

@@gamerbull2183 trust me it’s definitely not.

[@reimanreason6205]

Just a side note at 2:15 -- I was arguing with 2 of my friends about astrology and they said my sign made me "more passionate" and so they started saying I was getting worked up arguing about this only because of my sign.

[@malum9478]

idk how yall can be friends with assholes like that. i'd be so petty about everything about that.

[@buddingdufus]

I fucking hate astrology it sucks that your around people how use it. You should learn a different astrology system. That they don’t know and won’t comprehend as a backstory of doom of sorts so you can bullshit them.

[@thatindiandude4602]

@KGB - Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti man, it often wilds me out how popular horoscopes and tarot cards are in the west.

[@reimanreason6205]

@@buddingdufus Yeah, it's a pain. The only solution I found viable was to instantly pivot to another topic and force them to return us to the astrology topic and then hammer in the fact that they are the "passionate" ones.

[@joshuamoon9312]

@KGB - Комитет Государственной Безопасностиactually it's based on the seasons.

[@danielhazard9040]

When you say " I knew it! All the black people did XYZ" , that immediately comes across as racist. This, you should know. If you don't, you reeeeally need to hang out with black people more often.

[@than217]

"The Gang Gets Cancelled" *Always Sunny theme song*

[@cosmojuicer]

I'll admit I was bias against you at first Vaush. I very recently came around, opened the feeble mind a bit, and watched some your material. Nobody's perfect but I dig the your stance on treating humans of all corners of the world with dignity and your common sense free speech view. If I was trollish in the past, my apologies. Be good.

[@cosmojuicer]

@@Its_m3_dave I took a gander at sh0e's videos a long time ago. Not really a big fan. Although she had one video where she peeked out the window and saw a guy with a Trump mask screeching 'REEEE'. I got a chuckle out of it.

[@ontopic1626]

I was really expecting the jubilee video to be one of those where they have 3 people from both sides and I thought it was going to be 3 interracial couples vs 3 “traditional” couples(jubilee’s word not mine) but the “traditional” couples are all in the KKK because it’s jubilee

[@qo2097]

I think it would great if you reached out to “earthling Ed” Ed winters. I would love to see a conversation or debate.

[@denniskubieck4717]

Ed is the ultimate calm debater. You know Vaush will get frustrated at that. Vaush is great at debating and a valuable figure to the left…he ain’t Ed level good

[@hodgi3]

Would actually love to see that.

[@denniskubieck4717]

@@robertwinslade3104 I’m not talking necessarily talking about their conversation on vegan topics but rather how it could possibly divert to the consumption under our current system and hypocrisy and stuff like that.

[@LevellerTV]

I would also love to see this conversation. I think of all topics I’ve seen Vaush debate on, he tends to get the most defensive when it comes to veganism. Ed would cut through that with this characteristic calm demeanor and Socratic style.

[@qo2097]

@@denniskubieck4717 But I would say an entertaining debate would be Joey Carbstrong and Vaush. That would be funny. Joey is passionate intense and gets personal not in a bad way but in a way that’s is right in your face.

[@sN00p_]

Bruh i died when vaush brought up Tariq nasheeds buck breaking movie lmfao

[@asheru9254]

😂😂😂

[@Carlosdreamur]

Vaushs feed and seed

[@denniskubieck4717]

I can only imagine the possible conversations my black girlfriend has with her family and people in her community about dating outside of her race. Especially with people like umar johnson and Tariq existing, the level of uncomfortable conversations gotta be next level. Luckily for me, because I come from a pretty progressive background, that was something I never had to worry about. P.S, so apparently I have to make this blatantly obvious but no, I’m not talking about all black families.

[@IBBMS]

No one cares. Please stay in your ignorant non-black lane and don’t speak on the black community

[@marciamakesmusic]

Jordan Peele made a whole ass movie about benevolent racism. No one is immune

[@aAS-wi9ks]

@@IBBMS why you mad ?

[@0498kizerb]

Just a heads up, Tariq and Umar’s community are mostly online and don’t represent the views of most black folks. Can black people be reactionary? Of course, most are cool about it

[@denniskubieck4717]

@@IBBMS at the time of me seeing your comment, it said it was made “10 seconds ago” and it already had a like. Liking your own comments, kinda sad kid. Second of all, you don’t have to be black to comment on issues in the black community. I know, that’s hard for you to comprehend because of the lack of education.

[@shahidally]

"somebody is being cucked" that was a hilarious line.

[@Nuvizzle]

"I don't think I've ever been racist towards my partner but, then again, I am white..."

[@voodoogurl07]

So I dated a dark skinned black man and we were talking marriage… but he got all kinds of shit from his non white friends and his own mother. He ended up cheating on me with a dark skinned black girl. I am pretty sure, despite his excuses (although could be some of it), it was peer pressure and having to lead practically 2 lives: one around me and one around his family who hated him having a white girlfriend. He would never let me meet his family because of it. It’s really damning for them, and I can’t imagine the kind of struggle. And that’s just for straight black men. There’s the machismo and all kinds too if you’re black and LGBTQ+ to contend with, especially black Trans.

[@slothful2039]

Hearing all of these stories I guess I got pretty lucky. My mom is Black and my dad is Nicaraguan and Spaniard. Both sides of my family accepted me and my brother with open arms and didn't have a problem with my parents getting married. The only person who apparently had a problem with it was my great grandmother on my mom's side, but she passed before my brother or I were born. It's even weirder because my parents are gen X, so you'd think more old fashion beliefs would transfer from both families.

[@FunFilmFare]

Same! I’m also mixed. Mom’s Chinese, dad’s Mexican & Irish. Although their families totally support their marriage, they’re still pretty racially insensitive at times.

[@vanyadolly]

It's been years but I just wanted to add. My grandparents lost their shit when my white mom got together with a black man, but they still loved me and my sister to the moon and back. Even if they have racial prejudices, most grandparents love their grandchildren no matter what colour they are.

[@gojiraguy200]

That was actually the chillest Jubilee segment I've seen vaush cover, basically every take was pretty nice and there was a some good discussion of colorism. I was expecting a total shitshow, but this was kinda pleasant.

[@TehAnimationSparxx]

completely unrelated to your sentiment but when I read "chilliest" what i thought was "cold" and not chill, i think "chillest" would better serve here thx ly bye

[@gojiraguy200]

@@TehAnimationSparxx This will go down in history as the first time I've edited a ten month old typo. ily2

[@TehAnimationSparxx]

@@gojiraguy200 love u

[@Blueberry_Fields]

I'm Italian American and my husband is Japanese (we live in Japan) and we have some cultural differences but we don't really think about our race difference so much

[@SalinaBabba8343]

It really depends on the individual. While I was with a Chinese woman, the cultural differences led to issues. We didn't last long once her family objected to us being a thing. I also was with a Mexican woman for a time until I found out she was racist as can be. Found out through a friend of hers that "she just wanted to see what a white guy was like". She ghosted me hard one day, never heard from her again. So yeah, my experience has been a real mixed bag. I'm happy yours worked out with very little issue though.

[@chucku00]

@@mastermoose8390 IDK much about Italian Americans, but as a European (my country doesn't matter on this subject) there was a deep separation between Northern and Southern Italians (who often have a darker skin tone) that led to a mutual disapprobation on the subject of North with South Italians relationships. Even if it has gotten better, the fact there are more African immigrants in Italy now has reignited this old fire. It's blatantly visible during calcio (soccer) matches. But it also seems to slowly evolve in the right way.

[@coimbralaw]

@@mastermoose8390 the irony of that is that many or even most people euros argue that Italians aren’t even white. So when I hear of some of them being racist toward black or hispanic people, I’m truly stunned. If anything, they should feel themselves to be people of color and sympathize with marginalized peoples.

[@LovelyAngel.]

@@coimbralaw Do people in Europe argue that Italian's are not white?? Because I have seen the "Italians are not white" bs a lot but it was ALWAYS people from outside Europe and I was like "wtf, we all think Italians are white, what are you even talking about?". But we also perceive race VERY differently than Americans, so even a concept of "Europeans debating between each other whether they're white or not" sounds like science fiction to me. In my country the terms "white", "black", "latino" are not even being used to describe people

[@themangoman9315]

I'm also part Italian American ( on my mom's side )

[@joshuasalem5022]

Jubilee: *asks a question* Chat: OH NOOOO

[@hodgi3]

Who thought this would was a good idea lol

[@neidhardt8093]

It was a good video.

[@ViolentOrchid]

The mixed racial person who doesn't want mixed racial kids... Yikes.

[@jordanguillory7180]

Im a black woman and i want to add context to the "black men who date white women are hated" comments. For the most part, black women don't care if bm date ww (of course there are exceptions in the community: racists and hoteps lmfao). The problem and nuance comes when bm say things like "of course im not dating a bw theyre all loud, ghetto, manly" etc etc. For some reason, no one seems to understand the context that you can have your "prefrences" without *bashing* your "not prefrence". Or that a "prefrence" isnt required, like "id prefer if you were white but it's not required to date me" but too many times, being a certain race IS "required" and attempted to be passed on as a "prefrence"

[@Radzoso]

This video is a good example of how the word, "like" is overused.

[@josh-oo]

I don't like, like what you're like, implying.

[@fruitygarlic3601]

Kind of like (ah!) the word 'why' as a filler a few generations ago.

[@SA-mo3hq]

"As a POC of colour..."

[@lovelylesbian5135]

I think they mean as a poc with dark skin but yeah badly phrased

[@crishealingvtuber8626]

What is wrong with these people...interracial couples are just regular couples. What?

[@unhomme643]

In an interracial relationship for years. The learning was on my part or rather my duty to educate myself on current and past struggles of POCs. Ended up being the best year of my life regarding books. Best relationship of my life. Gonna marry them.

[@trueceresurles3848]

For vaush's statements about Hispanic/Korean people saying the N-word-- we don't like it, it's not about us "all getting along," at this point it's more about us being tired of arguing with nonblack poc about slur discourse. It's tiring, and they're just going to pull the "irrational black person" card on you.

[@yoboiboy4182]

Yeah I thought it was weird. I’m from the Midwest. When I went to Cali and saw everyone throwing around the N Word casually it was really weird. In some places Latinos say it too, in the Midwest it’s only black ppl. Funny how it varies from place to place.

[@malum9478]

no it's more complex than that. there's history behind different groups that grow up with black people adopting the culture and the language--especially and specifically latinos but also some asian and of course white groups. in their own hoods they're part of the culture and no one cares if they say it, but this can change when going to another hood. in general though, it is a semi-understood thing that black and latino people use eachother's lingo in many parts of the US.

[@trueceresurles3848]

@@malum9478 .. Not really, no. Nobody from the hood allows white people to say the N-word, nor do they let other minorities. The misconception is weird to me. They say it, and they still get shit for it. You're talking about the way interpersonal relationships work. Sure, your friends won't care, but you can't go around saying the n-word casually, even in your own hood. That shit doesn't fly unless you know who you're talking to. The n-word isn't just "lingo" or AAVE, it's a slur. African Americans don't normalize other slurs in our communities, so it's very disturbing that ours are practically adopted by every single racial group.

[@Liggliluff]

(23:45) But different languages have nothing to do with mixed race. A French person and a German person, where they don't share a language with their family, will still have this issue.

[@aralornwolf3140]

Then... how are they a couple if they can't speak to one another?

[@LovelyAngel.]

@@aralornwolf3140 they most probably meet because one of them studies another's language and that's the language they predominantly use

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@LovelyAngel. , "Don't share a language" says to me that they can't speak to one another, not even their second or third languages...

[@lucilleaudinet6081]

@@aralornwolf3140 are you kidding? So many people speak a second language and a lot speak English at least well enough to communicate outside their native language.

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@lucilleaudinet6081 , My point is... the way it is worded implies they don't share a language. Geeze!!!! Understand English!!!

[@patfitch6660]

As soon as they said "hot takes" I saw the fight or flight instinct kick in.

[@d_dave7200]

Just want to say that a lot of kinks and fetishes come from "problematic" places. But imo we need to be okay with people exploring those things, as long as it's between two consenting adults. If one of the people involved isn't okay with that particular scene, then that decides that. So yes, there may be roots of racism in some of this stuff. But I mean... people have loads of sexual RP fantasies that would be extremely messed up if it were "real". I think exploring stuff in a healthy, constructive environment is fine. Anything else is sex negative.

[@LovelyAngel.]

But don't put all people in interracial relationships in this group... I am asexual and in relationship with a person of a different race because I don't mind what they look like - simple as that. No complicated history of kinks, turn ons, etc, I really don't care

[@kaydenl6836]

5:35 “I wasn’t mocking your race! I was mocking your mom!” Thats even more personal 💀💀

[@gigiratliff5801]

I one million percent don't care about the race of my children wtf

[@sumanoskae]

Right? Like, they're your KID. Imagine telling your child that they're the wrong race.

[@themangoman9315]

Same with gender sexuality and other shit they have no control over

[@willemvanwijk382]

Because the concept of 'race' is so undefined and shows so much slippage in this video, the questions were ambiguous af.

[@Crowley9]

Hot take: everyone is born inherently ignorant.

[@themangoman9315]

The most based comment on this video

[@michaelfaber9587]

The “I’m inherently ignorant woman” really pissed me off, she is probably the most “pIcK mE person I have ever seen

[@kx7500]

Chill

[@bleunt]

I was in an interracial relationship for 10 years and did not hear one word about it from anyone ever. I'm in another interracial relationship now and have heard zero comments about it. Americans are weird.

[@neidhardt8093]

That's personal bias

[@alexd4566]

If you prefer one skin color over the other when it comes to mating, you should ask yourself why. Subconscious biases may be at play. Same with hair color

[@bootyguru8727]

I think preference is perfectly fine, but it becomes a problem when it is a requirement. Someone shouldn't have to be a certain race for you to like them

[@alexd4566]

@@bootyguru8727 Preferences are fine, but some preferences may come from stereotypes or implicit biases. Like for example, a guy who only likes blond chicks because he subconsciously thinks that such girls are “easy promiscuous bimbos”. I think it’s right to do some introspection

[@RickyFSeiei]

@@alexd4566 tbh. I haven't heard that people have bias preception when it comes to hair color. Well except the Sjw stereotype. It is interesting to see that people have negative bias about it.

[@bootyguru8727]

@@alexd4566 For example I prefer chocolate ice cream, that doesn't mean I wouldn't eat vanilla ice cream or strawberry ice cream. It just means that if I had a choice between the three I would probably choose chocolate. If a guy will only date blonde girls, that's not a preference, it's a requirement which is completely different and based in prejudice like you said.

[@FelisImpurrator]

I, uh, prefer... every skin color, but especially anything that's like, individually rich and vibrantly anything? And my favorite hair color is like, albino white for the aesthetic, so fuck if I know.

[@fnord3125]

i think it's okay to have a "preference" just like you have preferences about all sorts of things related to the appearance of potential partners: height, size, hair color, eye color. these aren't irrelevant to how we feel about people, and neither is skin color. the issues start if you're completely excluding whole groups of people for consideration because of factors like this, or going too far the other way and fetishizing things.

[@themangoman9315]

True I have a preference for Asians and red heads but I would still date someone who doesn't fit either Those criterias it's just a preference not a fetish

[@WildSeven19]

About the first hot take: Is it steamy to notice and appreciate the beauty of contrasting skin tones? It's really badly phrased.

[@IBBMS]

Yes that’s weird and fetishization

[@WildSeven19]

@@IBBMS I don't agree at all. Seeing beautiful white skin next to beautiful black skin is just lovely. In its appearance and its message. I don't see how it's weird.

[@prestoiidx]

@@WildSeven19 nah thats definite just straight fetishization bro

[@WildSeven19]

@@prestoiidx Fair enough, I guess equality and mutual respect for all races is my fetish.

[@IBBMS]

@@WildSeven19 the fact you think that’s “just lovely” just proved my point. You’re weird and you’re a fetishizer. Do your thing, sis, but that’s just what it is.

[@worshipthecomedygodseoeunk4010]

its even more complicated when you are a different race than your parents. i swear the amount of times ive had stares or comments about being my dads "mail order bride" is astonishing. i was surprised to see many asians say the n word in the cities too, as someone from the suburbs. but i mean, there is some nuance in that race is seen so much through a black and white lens in america, that its hard for newer immigrants to form a solid american identity that isnt based on people who are already here. it explains why so many asians take on hip hop culture as an outlet, as an aesthetic. that being said, it certainly doesnt justify them using it at all. but i think there should be a distinction between some white suburban guy repeating it in a hip hop song versus rapper $tupid young who grew up in the hood in long beach. i know many koreans specifically view hip hop culture as a form of rebellion against their traditional immigrant parents, but also many koreans relate to the messages because of the oppression during the korean war, japanese occupation, and the racism they faced when they came to america. im going on an unrelated tangent but overall, many poc wish for solidarity and i do think there should be nuance given when discussing racial dynamics among poc versus between poc and white people.

[@MartialArtsCat101]

I’d like to see an episode of couples who were raised in different socioeconomic statuses, that would be 10x more interesting than different races or whatever

[@jds614]

The sexual stereotype with a white man Asian woman is some sort of mail a bride trope. More prevalent if the white man is noticeably older. I have a latina wife as a white man ....so i do get the glances of shade assuming it's a green card situation. These stereotypes exist...but I feel they are becoming less assumed over time which is good. How wild is it that the supreme Court ruled bans against interracial marriage were illegal 2 years after the civil rights act?! When I saw that...I thought it was wild. Alabama didn't even take the law off the books ceremoniously until 2000(wasn't in practice but still)

[@christianheinikainen4318]

4:13 OH I SURE HAVE! I'll never forget in highschool I was sitting with one of my Chinese class mates during lunch to go over homework or what ever. But her friend group that we were sitting with where all Asian; and they were playing some card game. Behind our table were like all of the 15 black kids who went to our highschool all sitting together. ANYWAY, at one point while the people next to us were playing their card game; one of the girls slams her cards down victoriously, jumps up and just yells "THAT"S RIGHT [n-word with a HARD R]!!!!" I remember ducking my head down like: "Holy f*ck, the white guy (me) didn't say it; don't look at me please!" I remember all the black kids behind us slowly turning to look where the noise came from, then looked at each other confused like: "Should we say something?..." Then one of the guys sitting behind us went up to the girl who yelled "the hard R" and was like: "Yo, what the f*ck!? You cant be saying that sh*t!" XD

[@doperagu8471]

I'm pretty sure that when that guy said he was "called out" while in public with his asian partner was BECAUSE they were thinking HE was the one with the Asian fetish... "Like... You know..." (What he said, not me). It was suggested from what he said that he wasn't called out bc he's the person you need to "....you know" about in the relationship. It seemed pretty clear that he was talking about getting attention from other white males for dating an Asian woman bc "...you know...." (Gross Asian woman fetish stereotype). Obviously not a good thing no matter how you slice itl. Just wanted to point out that I think Vaush misunderstood what the guy was saying.

[@rougenarwhal8378]

I'm a mixed race kissless virgin, and I'm hugely pro mixed race couples, "my race" has done nothing for me, I can't imagine possibly betraying a skin tone. If your community loves and appreciates you, they should be happy that you have potentially found love, and a vector to spread your community's ideas and traditions, even if your significant other and children don't look like you. although I'm gay so I guess that last part doesn't apply

[@sacrilegioussasquatch]

It's better to mix races because it's more genetically diverse anyway.

[@rougenarwhal8378]

@@sacrilegioussasquatch i dont think it should be much of a consideration when looking for a partner, genetic health is more of a side effect for most couples if love is on the table

[@ignitionfrn2223]

0:55 - Unintentional rac1sm 6:25 - Interrac1al improve s3x 9:10 - Fetishism 11:25 - Mixed children 15:25 - Roce Traitor 18:20 - Benefits 22:00 - Rejected by family 24:55 - Same race 28:30 - Conclusion

[@Rawr1752]

Unironically, on the "Sometimes, I feel like I betrayed my own race" My grandfather is _incredibly_ racist in this regard. He's an older black man, and every time he's mentioned something about me bringing a woman home at some point, he's always made sure to mention "One of us," or something along those lines. He also hasn't talked at all to my older brother who is in a mixed relationship since it happened. It is a thing that happens.

[@horrorhistory7342]

Oof that sucks. My gf’s parents are similar, they were fine with her having a white gut friend when we were just friends but got really weird when we started dating over two years ago.

[@horrorhistory7342]

*guy

[@thephoenix756]

I'm a millennial and I honestly can't see myself with someone outside my own ethnicity and wouldn't be comfortable with my future children dating or marrying out.

[@chucku00]

@@thephoenix756 Can I ask you why? Or is it just a gut feeling?

[@thephoenix756]

@@chucku00 I live in Australia as an ethnic minority and if I married out into the dominant culture and produced biracial children... then they would very likely do the same and I'll end up being the only person in my own family that is monoracial -- and that seems like a lonely fate in that sense.

[@snack881]

2021: Re-litigating interracial relationships: based or cringe? 2022: So say, theoretically, a human owns another human,

[@borna1231]

Talk to Earthling Ed! THat would be a fantastic convo for sure!

[@aligatorsandwitch72]

Man, I'm biracial and I have always hated the term "mixed". I'm not a dog.

[@Kavukamari]

vaush continues the transformation into a reactlord streamer PepeLaugh

[@Dovoline3]

I mean, it's not *that* hard to picture a scenario where race would be an issue in the bedroom. If person A and B are into BDSM, and the dominant in the relationship happens to be white... yeah. That is something that could get VERY awkward.

[@Kbloko]

the mixed babies thing is extremely american omg

[@anthonynorman7545]

It might be worth looking at black reactionaries in particular because their reasoning might be different so different rhetorical tactics might need to be used.

[@xenonsan3110]

The bad stereotypes for white guys that I've seen are: 1. Mediocre or bad in bed 2. Extremely selfish in bed (I.e. not willing to give their partner the same enjoyment) 3. Fetishizes everything (race, sexuality, gender) 4. Pushes those fetishes at either inopportune times or without discussing it with partners first 5. Believes everything should be given to them 6. Can't take no for an answer Obviously none of this is true all the time, it's just the bad stereotypes I've seen from the point of view as a white lesbian. Both online from other people's stories and some of it in person

[@FelisImpurrator]

That third one is weird as fuck. Like... I still don't understand how it *works* when people fetishize identity label shit like that. Hell, stuff like race conceptually makes no sense to me to begin with. It's just weird unscience larping in my brain because I know how biology works and race isn't a thing in it. On the other hand I totally get being attracted to physical features. I mean... I think almost any mix of phenotype traits can be attractive. Skin, hair, eyes, whatever. ...also, #4: Who the fuck does that? Half the fun of *having* a partner and having any sort of kink related interaction with said partner is talking about it to figure out what both parties like. That just sounds like it's also part of really bad and boring sex just conceptually.

[@xenonsan3110]

@@FelisImpurrator #3 and #4 you can see on basically any p*rnhub video. The stereotype comes from guys who can't differentiate or let some concepts blur between p*rn and real life. It's mostly the misogynistic assholes who do this type of stuff and fit the stereotype to a T

[@xenonsan3110]

@@FelisImpurrator there's also the homophobic stereotype that some men think they can turn you straight (aka don't take no for an answer). But that doesn't quite fit the others, still in the same vein though

[@ArielVHarloff]

I'm in an interracial relationship and for some reason my future father in law was worried I was like some kind of aryan stereotype before we met (I'm German and white my partner is American and hispanic) I'm not sure why that would have been a problem if I was but he had some sort of concern about it he refused to elaborate on.

[@malum9478]

i don't care what color my babies are as _long as they're _*_AMERICAN_*

[@aralornwolf3140]

I don't care about the colour of my babies are, as long as they are cute little fur balls. Fur Children > Human Children. ;)

[@notleah8700]

Obviously not against interracial dating but I really don’t date anyone cause my race always comes up. It’s either guys bragging about family being racist(which I don’t want cause being close to family is important to me) or guys calling me a prude cause they thought black girls were more “chill”(didn’t know not liking sexual harassment made me a prude) I’ve have so many humiliating things said to me in front of professors, friends and colleagues cause guy thought “that’s what black girls like” and it’s even from guys I thought were my friends and knew me. Only time black guys talk to me is when they think I look Asian or Mexican so I’ve just given up on dating men in general. Not worth the stress🙃

[@frostbite3318]

4:44 Vaush’s reaction made me lol

[@AlexRoseLebreton]

valid point here: it’s okay to not know what language someone is speaking and it is okay to be confused. Nobody is going to expect you speak that language fluently unless YOU’RE IN THE COUNTRY. If you’re going to a home country, take partner with you. Especially if you can’t speak whatever language, don’t be the karen who visited Spain and complained there were Spanish people…. Like no shit, what did you expect? I have friends who speak Hindi and Ukrainian and sure I try to learn some stuff, but I’m FAR from fluent, but good on you for being such a supportive partner!

[@Fluttersniper]

Chat and Vaush are having fun, but I feel there are charitable interpretations of most of the odder positions. Interracial relationships are extremely frowned upon in many societies. It takes nerves to stand tall against the questioning eyes of thousands of people on the street, and wanting not to have to deal with that isn’t racist.

[@MrRon3278]

They never mentioned minorities that only date outside their race because they prefer their children to have “finer” features oppose to looking like them because they consider that more beautiful or presentable in society

[@thephoenix756]

Those minorities that do that are pathetic.

[@mommybat2941]

I love any video where vaush scream laughs.

[@hunterlurvey698]

On the topic of mixed kids, my mom and grandpa for some reason think black babies are the cutest thing (which they are cute) but whenever I brought up adoption as a possibility in my future, they always go "oh you should adopt a black baby, they're so cute! I would love a black grandson" and that always rubbed me the wrong way, like it was going to a pet store and picking out which puppy you thought was the cutest

[@S1leNtRIP]

I actually I really liked this Jubilee video. These people seem pretty chill and cool!

[@lefthanded0440]

I think they should do one with different cultures but similar race/color such as American man with Russian woman or Japanese American with Philippino. You know that’s got it’s taboo and is like to see how some of these 90 day fiancé esque couples really feel on a jubilee

[@reeseseater12]

You can't control who you're attracted to, if you tend to have a preference for one race over another that isn't necessarily a conscience decision. So I don't think it is racist to be attracted to specific races more than others. It is just something that can happen. Now, it can get to a point where it can be fetishized but that is if the race is something you consciously sought out specifically for the fact of that person being that race. Like, if it's the most important factor when you're considering a partner.

[@malum9478]

no it's definitely something you can control, and if you're doing so then you should examine yourself for _why_ you 'find some things more attractive than others'. attraction is largely learned, it ain't magic.

[@reeseseater12]

@@malum9478 I don't think a lot of people look at someone and think "Oh, I am gonna force myself to be attracted to this person" (unless they're in denial about something) Unless that's how it works for you, at least for me, I like what I like, I don't think about why, it isn't something I decided I would like and trained myself to like it, it just happens to be what it happens to be. Also, yeah, some of attraction could be conditioned, it doesn't mean the conditioning was intentional. It is something that can just happen. It is learned but a lot of the time it isn't overtly learned, it is something that influences you and sticks with you.

[@reeseseater12]

@@malum9478 also if it is something you can control people wouldn't develop crushes on people either not interested in them or for some reason in a situation where it couldn't work out. You would just decide to like someone and if it ends then you could shut that off. Humans (at least no one I ever talked to) aren't like that, attraction is complicated

[@OM-wl7qe]

I've never understood this, how does it work? Does it have to do with the intensity of one's attraction? Is it a list of features that you find attractive?

[@emilyrln]

Jubilee needs to have those floor stripes glow, then turn off the lights while everyone moves. Less covert checking of where people are going!

[@strangeanimations2518]

6:48 "POC person" lol

[@WolfenX4]

I hate the term POC, it's literally means "Everyone but us"

[@SimonD992]

I have a strange relationship with my use of the n word. I’m Afro-Latino, but I’m relatively lightskin, I also grew up in South Africa where the N-word is still bad, but it doesn’t pack as much hatred in it as it does in the US because we have our own words that we see as much worst and LITERALLY no one says unless they’re racist or discussing racism, this is the K-word. I have used the N-word all my life especially when rapping to a song or talking to friends, including my black friends and in South Africa especially in Cape Town where I grew up we have a 3rd in between race that we call coloured which is what I’m considered in South Africa. Coloured people have a similar background to Latin-Americans and Afro-Americans which begins in slavery and they have seen themselves inspired and have found a kinship in Afro and Latin American culture. This is what I grew up in and these people say the N word all the time… is it wrong for me to use that word?? I understand the cultural significance and honestly I’ve never had a darker skinned friend or a black friend ever really care about my use of it in South Africa… but outside in Europe I’m scared with my black friends here to use it sometimes because they have a different history with it maybe. Legit any black people who could help me out with this would be appreciated, I also have black heritage, I’m not logic level lightskin but maybe a bit more like Obama if I could compare my skin colour. I also don’t call myself black even though sometimes some people might think I am just cause I’ve grown up being called Latino or coloured all my life I just feel a different kinship to black cultures in South Africa.

[@thephoenix756]

Why would you be concerned if you're as black as Obama? No one will care as long as you clearly have African ancestry.

[@thephoenix756]

@Alex Tavarez There are no great answers to these questions, dude. If you look at least half black, you're going to be given a pass in all black communities; if you look like Ice-T, then it may be restricted to just the United States and Canada.

[@SimonD992]

@Alex Tavarez I get your point bro and o do think it's silly, but I am interested and frankly my opinion leans on yours, but I also care about the opinions of those around me on this subject and frankly just think the discussion is amusing to speak on but yes of course you are correct, there's bigger issues to deal with.

[@SimonD992]

@@thephoenix756 ok this is a solid answer haha, I live in Europe so lately I'm looking more like Ice-T haha. It's also cause I don't have very curly what would be considered African hair, I have that on my beard but my head hair is like swoop curly which is more Latino so that's why most people consider me Latino or coloured

[@radmandude3925]

Time to get some gamer opinions

[@nastydisco6137]

I would never forgive myself if my babies ended up being British 😪

[@anti-pants7003]

I think you could arguably be attracted to someone based on their race, similar to being attracted to their body type, unless that attraction comes from stereotypes that sexualize their race

[@rishabhanand4973]

i mean i can see people being attracted to certain skin tones. Like maybe they like a tanned skin tone, a dark skin tone, a freckled look, a light skin tone. But I don't think that's the same as being attracted to someone based on their race. You could also be attracted to someone based on some traits that are products of their culture (like idk, being attracted to an indian person who makes really good indian food or something) but again, I'm not sure if that's the same as being attracted to someone based on their race.

[@not-a-gerbil9557]

I mean. I'm attracted to middle easterners Love the beards, bronze skin, hairy bodies Yeah not all middle eastern folk have those qualities but I mean...not ilogicial to assume I'd meet one that did Like if you gave me a blind date option and I only know one is white and the other middle eastern, I'd choose middle eastern since they're more likely to have those qualities~

[@uncomfortabletruth5915]

I am a white guy and am attracted to Asian woman because of how they're proportioned. They just seem so exotic to me but any woman can do it for me so it’s not just like a fetishized deal breaker.

[@marciamakesmusic]

How tf can you be attracted to a social construct? Saying "I'm not attracted to black people" means you assume you know some inherent, fundamental quality of black people makes them unattractive to you, but that quality does not exist.

[@IBBMS]

@@uncomfortabletruth5915 how are they proportioned and is that proportion true of even half of the 2 billion women in Asia? That’s why people say it’s a fetish b/c y’all say weird stuff like this. It’s like a guy saying he likes Black women b/c they have big asses as if everyone has a big ass. It’s weird and it is fetishization