This Should Make You Mad

This is the greatest cereal company of All Time
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I stream every day / moistcr1tikal

[@Shinobin333]

"We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong" - Every company ever

[@OverStrive2008]

"okay class, mark the person next to you I'm going to sleep"

[@SomeOrdinaryJanitor]

fr, this is why there needs to be third parties.

[@breakupgoogle4584]

Also cops.

[@OverStrive2008]

​@@SomeOrdinaryJanitor The middle man 😏

[@URsooomad8613]

Yep, this is Biden's America and all the smart people saw it coming

[@toupac3195]

"Its part of a balanced breakfast" has always been the loophole.

[@FLYBOY-eh5th]

You mean like a fruitloop loophole.

[@azombie8mybaby]

Poop hole loophole

[@notaspy3751]

"Part of" is the key phrase there. It _is_ 'healthy', as long as you also eat it with other stuff that has actual nutritional value, like fruit, nuts, and basically anything else that isn't a sugar bomb.

[@kimjunguny]

What my problem is that cereal really shouldn't have any added sugar. You get all the sugars you need for breakfast with the milk you already got in the bowl.

[@Cosplaythief]

I remember also "a tasty part of a complete breakfast" as if the cereal is just a side dish.

[@FabbrizioPlays]

"It’s so frightening that corporations can bully an organization whose sole goal should be the safety of the products that we consume on a daily basis" amazingly well put

[@gonzostwin1]

Allow us to be Snake Oil salesman, man, come on man!

[@Jordan-Ramses]

It's only frightening if you haven't been paying attention and you're living in some kind of fantasy land.

[@joshmay2944]

Well said, and sadly applicable to nearly every regulatory agency in the US these days. Its corporate oligarchy.

[@peacemaster8117]

Eh, it's a naïve view of the FDA. The federal government doesn't care about you any more than the other corporations do, and regulatory bodies like the FDA are just a way to drum up lobbying money from corporations. Nobody is getting "bullied": they're all in it together.

[@trixxiedixie6800]

Anyone can be bought with enough money and with a enough money it comes with power too sometimes, and with power some people Become corrupt or greedy.

[@goshdarnedbatman9969]

Cereal company: *makes cereal based off of literal candy* Also cereal company: “what do you mean cereal isn’t healthy?”

[@kuvshin5688]

@@CoffeeFresh_ Being fooled by a liar is less of a crime than lying to consumers for profit and selling them very unhealthy food

[@Kaustich]

America moment

[@urallpoor654]

Cereal company: *makes an incredibly unhealthy cereal and lies about it* Also cereal company: “why are you mad?”

[@WillTheBassPlayer]

Wait, you mean cookie crisp isn't healthy and is pretty much just a bunch of little cookies?!?!?!

[@aazhie]

​@@CoffeeFresh_ If someone called you a terrorist in public, would you have some kind of real rebuttal aside from "everyone should know that's not true?"

[@rainysunflower384]

As a 90's kid, I grew up with the sugary cereal commercials saying it was 'part of a healthy breakfast'. I'm surprised these brands have gotten away with it for this long.

[@gonzostwin1]

As a poor 90's kids, KIX slaps and should be the only cereal sold along side Corn Flakes and Grape Nuts. Alpha Bits was cancelled in 2021. Pray for our children

[@GlupShooto]

KIX is straight gas. Most cereal is bad even if it ain’t high sugar because eating a shit ton of carbs first thing in the morning isn’t the brightest idea imo

[@cooldude2251]

Kellogg's had the government by the balls

[@shitmandood]

90s ? This has gone on since the 70s, if not longer.

[@jtg.809]

they literally just say “part of a balanced breakfast” instead

[@kejtov]

Gov: please stop calling your sugary cereals healthy, thanks Kellogg's: this is literally 1984

[@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord]

The gov’t is very selective in its outrage. While this going on, the CDC is pivoting away from weight loss for the obese and instead encouraging physical activity at every size as part of adopting a Health At Every Size position.

[@sparklepawz1185]

@@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord wait so you’re mad that the CDC is encouraging people of various sizes to exercise? You literally just said “encouraging physical activity at every size”. Are you just mad that they’re calling it “health at every size” because you don’t really know what that means and think it means “healthy at every size”?

[@yomommashaus]

@cantin8697 Over 2/3rd's of all adults in the USA are overweight or obese. Diet interestingly is also probably 2/3rd's of weight loss. MOST PEOPLE IN THE USA NEED TO EAT LESS CALORIES.

[@Wayte13]

​@@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord Lmao somebody doesn't understand what the TV told them to be mad about

[@tugger]

​@@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord good. go exercise-dingus

[@oddbranch9211]

The fact that the FDA is stepping in and holding these cereal companies accountable is a massive W The domino effect this could potentially have on America's false advertising when it comes to food is huge

[@enyraries]

If they actually go through. Took long enough.

[@nooffense3417]

Next week season finale FDA vs Monsanto

[@humanguyalsoperson7987]

And the domino effect of if it falls out would be awful because then you can probably say anything about anything

[@Basedguy1]

I think america is pretty far behind on things like this. I'm positive the uk has had this for a long time now. But I can tell you that it wont change much. One of our biggest supermarkets (tesco) has a food range called "Hearty Food Co" and if you dont pay too much attention to the branding it almost gives you a subconscious thought in your head that it's healthy, due to how similar the two words are. Companies will always find a way to pull the wool over the general populations eyes.

[@whydoyoucare5]

I mean they're lobbying republicans who will fight tooth and nail for them to make sure this doesn't pass. Why do you think they're taking a page from their playbook? "MUH FREE SPEECH"

[@axelyosafatlomelimendez7318]

In Mexico companies were forced by the government to label their cereals (and processed food in general) with black stamps that reads "Excessive Sugar", "Excessive Calories", "Excessive Sodium" and "Excessive Fat" so the consumer knows what they're purchasing It'd be awesome if someone pass a bill like that in the States

[@thsudy]

Didn’t they also Remove mascots because it entices kids to buy junk food and candy?

[@axelyosafatlomelimendez7318]

@@thsudy That is correct as well

[@diane9496]

No thanks

[@Treekicker]

I can already hear them screeching socialist hellhole straw men arguments

[@Treekicker]

Yes thanks, notifds off

[@aolien2739]

The FDA doing their job is honestly surprising

[@berdwatcher5125]

especially considering that some FDA heads also own the food companies.

[@grimmziscool1765]

they are probably the one of the only government organizations that do their job honestly

[@MatthewBeats-t7k]

Nig

[@AlertROFL]

Thank Biden.

[@AlertROFL]

​@@grimmziscool1765 got one more thing, the EPA

[@gaeranbab]

Didn't expect cereal companies to become cereal killers.

[@jen-ky9mh]

🙂

[@oscpig9969]

they already were you just didnt know it

[@Hauntaku]

@@oscpig9969 woosh

[@takenthechance]

i can’t respond to this without looking like a bot

[@reka10]

Please display your dad license as proof that you're legally allowed to make that joke.

[@adamlassiter1296]

"It's all part of a balanced breakfast" has the same kind of vibe as having a couple of beers on your lunchbreak.

[@crogsmash1611]

It wouldn't be very balanced if it didn't have bad stuff with the healthy stuff

[@hashbrown777]

I always balance my brekkie with a shot or two of insulin

[@HarrHarrHarrify]

Well if you put it that way then maybe they should be allowed to call cereal healthy.

[@holden_tld]

tbf a couple beers on your lunch break is probably better for you than cereal.

[@wade3350]

@@crogsmash1611 life wouldnt be bad if we didnt have people doing bad things

[@jesseh8554]

I remember being a kid and being angry at my parents because they didn't let me eat those sugary cereals like my friends. Looking back, thank God they knew better

[@__-tp4tm]

Yeah, if one thing stuck on me from a show, its The Ugly Americans "Zombie Plant" episode. "He looks horrible, what did you give him" Brains, he demanded brains. "He's a plant now but still a zombie, do you only feed children with candy?!" Out of a show full of stupid shjt, that was quite the real moment, metaphorically.

[@SoniasWay]

The sheer lack of humanity from these corporations is disturbing

[@piotrswat169]

Sole purpose is to make money.Not illeagal,wrong but not illegal.

[@beckyscleanersock8395]

@@piotrswat169 legality isn’t a measurement of good or bad in a country owned by corporate machines

[@yaqubebased1961]

Why do you think they're banking on AI? They want to remove that variable from the equation entirely so as to make their goals easier to attain.

[@deathshead556]

They know no one is going to stop them. They control the money, and money makes the world turn.

[@OfficialWEIRD]

Hopefully this forces these companies to make healthier changes to their products

[@novanay8000]

I like how in the article the cereal companies made it sound like the FDA wants to ban cereal and not just let them lie about being healthy

[@connor8292]

Sounds like the usual sorts of loopholes corporations try to find so they can justify themselves.

[@GothicChimera]

@@Patrick-xk9sjThen wheres your 12.5Mil subs to prove it?

[@yomommashaus]

"but that's 95% of cereal!" "yes"

[@Wayte13]

Thay's always the play. Pretend you're getting "banned" or "cancelled"

[@nesobre]

America has been poisoning their own people for decades.. what a great country

[@Justacatlmao]

Charlie: “Allegedly. I don’t want them to get mad at me. Allegedly” Also Charlie 1 min later: “You absolute slimy Worms”

[@anactualalpaca7016]

Charlie's a beast lmao

[@MegaPollitoconpapas]

Calling a corportation slimy worms is a purely personal statement not regarding the lawsuit. Which is protected in the Us of A as freedom of speech yay

[@GooberInternet]

​@@MegaPollitoconpapas Corporations probably wanna get rid of that so they can sue people for speaking bad about em!

[@badrequest5596]

Alleged slimy worms xD

[@Zachandnate]

I'm am joepoopolozi

[@itsjusttmanakatech1162]

You already know this gonna cause cereal companies to lower the serving sizes even more in order to follow the new guidelines

[@naomi-ur2wb]

exactly my thought

[@mouth4207]

Won't work if the sugar - 1 cup ratio is regulated

[@wildfire9280]

@@mouth4207 who wants to bet the regulators failed to account for that?

[@seancarter6492]

And more air.

[@jdw9]

I work at a grocery store and the things I see labeled as "healthy" or "good for you" is outrageous. This needs to be enforced for all food products, not just cereals.

[@Gehrich_]

Holy shit, don't get me started. I ran a frozen department for two years. "Healthy Choice" is the tip of the iceberg. The natural sections are what scare me...

[@sefh_c]

Same bro. Whenever I see that, I just can't help but laugh like "Ok buddy."

[@xryeau_1760]

​@@Gehrich_ Any advice on separating the real health/natural foods from the fakes?

[@mr.niceguy3583]

All you need to eat healthy is chicken and rice.. people always over complicate things

[@Clover298]

@@mr.niceguy3583 i will actually go insane if i have to eat plain chicken and rice every day. i need at least one other meal on occasion.

[@raimondthefool1411]

''...sugary cereal pose no health risk and are beneficial to society and childhood health'' Is literary what a comic book villain would say.

[@camtubecamtube]

literary

[@ajoajoajoaj]

Charlie is right, the word literally really does have no meaning, if "literary" has replaced its actual meaning.

[@camerondiflo3828]

​@ajoajoajoaj They use the word correctly herethough. No? They say that without hyperbole that quote is something a comic book villain would say, and I would agree.

[@sluttyMapleSyrup]

​@@camerondiflo3828 Buddy's pointing out the typo. I didn't notice it at first because my brain auto-corrected it

[@dismurrart6648]

I'd be more fine with plain cheerios being labeled as heart healthy than with sugary crap being called healthy or allowed to have that word on their box

[@babypuncher5]

I will always remember the day my mom got mad at my dad for giving me chocolate cake for breakfast. His defense was "You told him it was fine to eat 2 donuts, we don't have any so what difference does it make?" To this day I still can't find any fault in his logic.

[@Altair4611]

based

[@Lucifer_Morningstarter]

I mean he wasn't wrong tho that is a really good wisdom

[@sparkleseverywhere]

honestly at that point, the donuts may have been worse from the way theyre cooked

[@truckincapinwith15romeo10]

Such a inspiring story from user babypuncher5

[@gggbeatcanelo2985]

@@truckincapinwith15romeo10 didnt even see the name but that your comment got me😂

[@Pimpgamer101]

I love watching Charlie flex his degree every once and awhile. You know you got to listen when he talks about food and health.

[@kermittheforg6222]

Honest question what did he get a degree degree in

[@Pimpgamer101]

@@kermittheforg6222 pretty sure it was health science.

[@SpookusMcDoofus]

@@Pimpgamer101 damn, really?

[@justyahz796]

i don’t think anyone needs a degree to tell you sugar makes you fat

[@CasualG-mer]

Customers: "Why are you selling poisonous food to people?" Fruity Pebbles: "But it taste delicious doesn't it?"

[@ARTSONICFAN990]

Trix Rabbit: No wonder kids are hooked on my cereal. For once, I am GLAD that they keep me away from eating it.

[@DxrkArtz]

CHARLIE COMMENTED ON MY NEWEST VIDEO IM LITERALLY CRYING

[@libidinousbear4563]

@@ARTSONICFAN990 man you are hilarious

[@grunkleg.3110]

Selling poisonous food to people is a horrible way to try and get repeat customers

[@Kiimoro]

@@DxrkArtz no he didn’t

[@Elizahteb]

In an effort to combat childhood obesity, Mexico has removed mascots and cartoons from junk food products. Additionally, a mandatory clear Octagon-shaped labeling has been implemented, this labeling indicates if the product contains excessive amounts of sugar, saturated fats, sodium, or calories. The latter has helped me realize that most of my "healthy" to-go snacks were not really healthy at all, needless to say, I check ingredients and the nutrition facts more often now

[@babelfish9948]

You implemented the system we been using for some years here in Chile?

[@darthhatall6961]

Awebo, lo único bueno que ha hecho el obrador

[@Elizahteb]

@@babelfish9948 ¿Me ves cara del prejidente? Yo no lo implementé, sólo lo estoy comentando

[@tricksfollies9549]

Removing the mascot is such an interesting choice that I’ve never heard about. I guess when you have a friendly and likeable face, it attracts kids to that thing.

[@babelfish9948]

@@Elizahteb El "you" se puede utilizar tanto en singular como plural, me refería a ustedes como país.

[@mortenrl1946]

fun fact, if i buy american candy in euroland, it has a sticker on it listing ingredients, twice as long as the original one printed on the package

[@norwegianboyee]

All American products seem to have an ingredient list the size of a mile with a bunch of chemicals, food colouring and absolute garbage. Honestly it's shocking to the rest of the world the amount of crap the Americans seem to accept in their food.

[@actualpieceofcardboard]

​@@Bfkcjscbsnjc is he wrong?

[@sovietnationalism3182]

@@Bfkcjscbsnjc its true tho, so dont know the fuck you talking about

[@vogurt99]

@@Bfkcjscbsnjc ok buddy

[@TheBlitztar]

​@@Bfkcjscbsnjc nice ad hominem bro keep it up

[@forner1900]

It wasn't long ago that Corporations said, "Paying employees with money instead of tickets would destroy the economy. " Nice to see they as just as evil.

[@katarzynamatracz4011]

Tickets for what?

[@person8064]

@@katarzynamatracz4011 for in-corporation goods

[@HawkyeNarasumas]

@@katarzynamatracz4011 Look up "company scrip." It's horrifying.

[@CCA.C17.SQL.02Idot]

@@katarzynamatracz4011 Search up what a "Company Scrip" is. If you don't want to, it's a pretend currency that corporations used to pay miners with in ye olden days. Miners would then use these to buy from the same company they worked for and it doesn't take a genius to see that this is basically slavery but with extra steps.

[@chubbynut_0g]

@@katarzynamatracz4011 tickets meaning paper money which has no intrinsic value

[@sakawa6838]

thanks for addressing this, Charlie. my mom is a nutritionist and for the longest time she has dedicated her job to informing people about these inhumane corporation’s practices. Seeing someone like you talk about such an overlooked topic is great

[@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord]

A nutritionist or a dietician? The latter is a credentialed medical professional. The former is someone that just says shit.

[@Aimaiai]

I think charlie actually mentioned something in the past about him majoring in nutrition in college as well

[@claptivity]

@Patrick39 ok, tell me about cereal nutritions, 🤖

[@nai4812]

@@Aimaiai He has a bachelors of science degree in human physiology so he has background knowledge on health and nutrition

[@VegaNorth]

What’s the difference between a nutritionist and a dietician?

[@ligitxgamerx1398]

“They could literally be boxing up poison and selling it to you with a smile” welcome to the entire food industry lmao

[@VegaNorth]

Oh, hey, that’s the plot of The Jungle by Upton Sinclair 😢 (largely historical fiction)

[@TiboNutz]

Well the entire food industry in your country :D EU has way better food standards and most products that are on the market in the US are illegal in EU. Crazy.

[@xibalbagrim]

Maybe only in the US. Could be wrong.

[@meloney]

​@@TiboNutzwhile the food safety is a lot better here, we still have some coorparations (mostly US ones though) that try to do similar stuff here. However, they mostly don't lie to the consumers and instead make it look like they are healthy without actually saying it anywhere.

[@CieraMychele]

Yall should watch Food Inc it's disturbing watched it in high school and still avoid tyson products when possible

[@darkxzero13]

Kinda funny that there was a point in time where most cereal commercials emphasized how they contained "whole grains" and that's what made them "healthy" while ignoring everything else in the product.

[@topherpie]

Still is that point in time tbh

[@dirtysploof5890]

@@topherpie fr i ate this big ass bag of "healthy" oat rings. Shit slapped but it was like 25g sugar per serving

[@ivonunes3937]

​@@dirtysploof5890jesus

[@drooooop]

Some of them just mention the health benefits of milk

[@UnitedGaming_12]

My Content Is Better then This Guy😏

[@deaf-tomcat]

i remember being in 4th or 5th grade, like 9 or 10, and eagerly answering "Frosted Flakes" in response to "What is a healthy cereal". Some other kids laughed at me, and my science teacher nicely told me different. I was shocked when he said no. their commercials had kids playing sports! Tony the Tiger would say that they were "grrr-eat"! absolutely shuttered my small child mind, rocked my worldview.

[@Joe-te5ro]

At this point charlie is like the news I check in the morning to see what is happening in the world

[@7Kings777]

One of the truest statements

[@MatthewMS.]

💯

[@RockinRocketScience]

The Ron Burgundy of the net

[@justinbouchard]

welcome

[@DanataD]

Ikr

[@calistafalcontail]

In Germany we have a "nutri-score" since quite a while and its printed pretty big on packages...it doesnt really stop me from buying unhealthy stuff though, but a few times it actually made me second guess my choice. The US has products that couldnt even cross our border, because they are so far outside of our guidelines of whats considered safe for consumption.

[@skythebastard]

Yet, some cereal has A ratings

[@calistafalcontail]

@@skythebastard Yes, but I havent paid attention to which ones have the A rating. You know we have some that taste very "healthy", meaning horribile, cause there is barely any sugar in it😂and I can totally imagine that those get an A. I have had some before that tasted like cardboard.

[@xxerbexx]

The flaw is that the products are rated in relation to each other. So wich serial is better then the other one. Lets say we talk about literally sugar bonbonbs, they wohl be rated against each other and son would get a A

[@iamperplexed4695]

Aren't you then, also, just allowing your government to tell, you whats healthy and not? That seems like just another system rife for abuse.

[@TiboNutz]

@@skythebastard Yeah the system is flawed because the score is only based on comparable products. It's not an objective measure of healtiness, it's a measure of how healthy it is compared to other brands or other types of that product. So unhealthy cereal can get an A score because it's less unhealthy than other cereal etc. And most people don't know that this is how it works.

[@juniperbough7533]

Now imagine all the other corporations who’ve lobbied behind closed doors to make sure they can sell us whatever truth they want

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

Yup. Scary stuff. And a really strong argument for eating whatever really basic stuff you can make at home.

[@crazymonkey6001]

I know right, like certain pharma companies over the last 2 years...

[@dumpyXD]

Reminds me of how the dairy industry lobbied the government to include dairy as a very large and necessary portion to a healthy diet. Not to mention how doctors at one point would recommend pregnant women smoke for stress. So scary to not be able to trust these institutions to hold companies to a basic standard of transparency and scientifically based honesty.

[@CharlieisGay69]

Then dont buy then

[@ElizaBetsy_]

Right? Cigarette companies used to label their product as healthy too. This is nuts.

[@kamoodle5]

"Part of a complete breakfast." I'll never forget hearing that slogan every time I watched a kid's cereal commercial back in the 90's, even for some of the unhealthiest cereals like Golden Crisp.

[@annamacdonald5328]

I remember being so mad that my parents didn't allow my brother and I to get sugary cereals as kids. I'm pretty thankful now

[@vawkwardbat]

As someone who is turning 30 this year and cannot shake the morning cereal habit...May I genuinly ask wth you ate for breakfast as a kid instead? (Like when there's no time for a fully cooked ordeal.) :o

[@Ooostun]

@@vawkwardbathonestly in an Asian household there’s always time to cook my grandparents would not allow me or my sister to eat anything other than home cooked meals.

[@TrianglePants]

I'm turning 29 soon. Lower-salt bacon, liquid egg whites, a handful of berries or a big slice of melon. Cup of coffee with honey in it. Easy. Might shake up the protein occasionally.

[@deadboltzz5199]

​​@@Ooostun Miso fish and rice? 💀

[@buttmcfartface9574]

@@vawkwardbat my country didin't have any american cereals growing up - i ate a shit tonne of weet bix or toast. It ain't the healthiest but at I could control what I added to it.

[@spoobini]

Im surprised they didnt try to walk around it, like "Well you see, if you didnt eat any food, you would starve, there for our cereal is good for you"

[@StrangelJean]

omg don’t give them ideas 😂

[@Blargel]

That's kind of the argument they made when they were talking about being affordable for low income households.

[@markoz673bajen8]

Did you not see the prices on shelves? I gave up on cereal in favour for OATS. I forgot about sugar rush cereals for decades; only to find out they're 3x the price from what they were b4. Finally with prices & research I know the dirty buzz of big Industrial Corp. Tank U Charlie for bring this up.

[@Donovarkhallum]

​@@Blargel cereal is expensive AF

[@Donovarkhallum]

​@@Blargel cereal is expensive AF

[@proctophobic7127]

I've never eaten a bowl of Lucky charms and thought to myself, "This bowl of sugar coated Oats and Marshmallows is healthy for me!"

[@peps1943]

Right?? It's neon. Obviously it's not healthy and the nutrition label is right there.

[@futuza]

I guess the closest thought I've had to that is 'well at least I'm not eating 5 dozen eggs'

[@d4-v1d22]

@Futuza So you’re roughly the size of a baaaaaaaaaarge

[@lunkycultist5519]

Lucky charms are grim, it's just surgery Chireos with chunks of sugar

[@RatKingTerry]

Apparently some people are too stupid to make conscious dietary choices💀

[@camdenmuller3179]

I remember when I was kid I would always hear that fat is that bad guy and to avoid it as much as possible. My cousin who was a dietician teacher at my middle school even pushed this story of sugary cereals being good for you. I was extremely obese as a child and I always struggled with why, because I ate how I was told to but I couldn't ever lose weight. Eventually during high school I cut back on cereal and sugar hardcore and did start eating foods more dense in protein and fats and sure enough, I dropped 30 pounds in a summer and came back to school much healthier. It's sickening to see this being pushed yet again, I don't want any child to have to go through the mental and physical torment I did because I was so confused and angry, I ate how I was told to, how I was supposed to and "ate healthy", but I could never lose the weight. No child should have to go through that.

[@Cassidy440]

Are you skinny now?

[@camdenmuller3179]

@@Cassidy440 5'10" 150 pounds so relatively. I still don't have lots of muscle from lack of exercise and a sedentary job, but by just changing my diet and cutting down on sugar it worked well for me.

[@Cassidy440]

@@camdenmuller3179 ok

[@camdenmuller3179]

@@Cassidy440 for reference, I used to be 5'7" - 5'8" weighing about 200 - 210 pounds before I lost the weight. I dropped as low as 135 my senior year of high school, all because I changed my diet and started to exercise a little. Now that exercise isn't there and I'm back to 150 but still better than if I was eating all that sugar and refined grains.

[@raracool04]

@@Cassidy440 it’s not about being skinny, it’s about being healthy. For the same reason that “bulking” isn’t seen as unhealthy because it’s in pursuit of a fitter body. Skinny isn’t the goal, health is.

[@ecthelionofgondolin7414]

Charlie's anti corporate arc coming on strong. I'm here for it.

[@hughquigley5337]

Revolution incoming lol

[@futuza]

I dunno how any sane person, whose not a shareholder, can stay on the corporate bandwagon in 2023.

[@Rahkoi]

Woah, the elusive Baroness fan! \m/

[@razrv3lc]

@@futuza because they’re not relying on sane people to keep voting against their best interests in order to keep corporations above the law. Poor people voting for lower taxes on the highest earners while voting for higher taxes on themselves, while being told they’re doing the opposite is what the Republican Party has become. The literal party of gaslighting lol

[@goblin6587]

@@futuza anyone with a retirement account is a shareholder

[@kingcamelot5318]

I want to point out that Honey Nut Cheerios, who had that whole "bee happy bee healthy campaign", has 12 grams of sugar per serving. Almost 6 times the amount of sugar these new guidelines would allow. And honestly I think that's beautiful

[@staggerlee2774]

Plus it smells like pee.

[@SmokedDart]

And sadly that's low compared to others on the shelf beside it

[@mackcheeses]

hate to be that person, but your math is off a little lol. 12 is 4.8 x 2.5

[@Major003]

@richie martin So true. The average sugar content is... what, 15g per serving? It might as well be candy with a little fiber. My mom and I buy a box of Lucky Charms occasionally as a dessert-like treat. The cereal I used to eat had 9g of sugar... 8 of which were added. And it wasn't that sweet. It was fine until they cheapened by making the squares smaller (it was a shredded wheat cereal with fruit filling), and then did something that made it have a bitter aftertaste.

[@VooshSpokesman]

Yes.

[@Gehrich_]

I love the way they worded "Sugar plays a role in foods beyond palatability; it disrupts water and is palatable."

[@joshk5881]

Bro and sugar is about the closest thing to a direct dopamine hit that isn't direct exogenous drug use😂

[@freedomgoddess]

@@joshk5881 YEAH THANKS WOULD HAD BEEN GREAT TO KNOW AS A TEEN. NOW ALL I THINK ABOUT IS MY FUCKING WHITE CRYSTAL DRUG.

[@bensoncheung2801]

221st 👍

[@nyxnightmare3542]

Human translation: "We see food as a drug we can sell to you for high prices, so the more addicted you become to the sugar the more money we make. And if we label it as healthy when you start fearing for your future life, you'll be too addicted to think it's actually the food that's causing you to live a very short life. And if we insult fruits, which have natural sugars that tastes better, you'll be less likely to switch to those actually healthy options, and we'll be less likely to lose your money."

[@charlesquinton9127]

"disrupts water" guess what, our bodies are made from like 70% water so saying it disrupts water is like saying it disrupts your body.

[@subsonicslime]

How has he not gone straight to Hollywood. This is just channel 10 on KZbin. All forms of media from lawsuits, to threats, to Karens. Charlie is so incredibly talented

[@theoverlylongusername3966]

KZbin is slightly less corrupting and he gets to make whatever he wants without his coworkers trying to smother his efforts

[@ToxPhy]

The one that really drove me crazy was when Nutella was marketed as a health food. If I remember correctly the first ingredient is literally sugar.

[@coryyoung7544]

So I will some what defend this in a way its like eating dark chocolate when sick it can help but its not as good as regularly medicine. Obviously its not healthy though.

[@tinfoilslacks3750]

Nutella is wild because yeah, Nutella's primary ingredient is sugar, by a huge margin. But no name brand hazelnut spread's primary ingredient is hazelnuts lol.

[@DxrkArtz]

CHARLIE COMMENTED ON MY NEWEST VIDEO IM LITERALLY CRYING

[@tomsavino5301]

Damn so many bots

[@aoki6332]

@@tinfoilslacks3750 its crazy though it worse since the second ingredients is Palm Oil and these two make more than 50% of it

[@tr0llz0r20]

Just wait until people find out majority of companies that have products labeled as "Made in America" are usually entirely or to some degree partially made in China, shipped to American processing plants, opened and thrown back in a box after peeling Chinese stickers off, two of them I personally worked for are called American Torch Tip and the other is BulletProof Hitches and they are entirely produced over seas for a fraction of a price and then opened and relabeled in English to say made in America. I hope someone looks into this because I'm trying to inform y'all because this is a huge problem

[@kombuchas4684]

Lol it's been happening. Majority of designer goods are made in China and then shipped to Europe and stitched a single time to get the claim "Made in France."

[@AliKhan04]

Apple with their designed in California made in China ish

[@USandGlobal]

That’s actually not true 😂 Americas biggest trade partner is Mexico and Canada aka NAFTA. My phone is getting made in India as we speak 😂

[@hughquigley5337]

@Damyan Sandoval What kind of argument is that? You can import different things from different places. I guarantee you that Mexico’s and Canada’s biggest exports to the USA are quite different from China’s biggest exports to the USA

[@hughquigley5337]

But I do wholeheartedly agree that NAFTA is one of the most abysmal pieces of legislation to have been passed by the US Congress in recent history.

[@mr.greasy6483]

Props to my mom for making these cereals count as a dessert when I was a kid. I used to be so mad at her for that

[@almostmybedtime]

Cereal in vanilla ice cream !!

[@elliottvaughn700]

Dang cereal is pretty much dessert! Sugar dense and served cold... Your mom was right on that.

[@nooneofnote8453]

My mom was always really strict about cereals. As a kid I was bummed I couldn’t have Cookie Crisp or Lucky Charms, but now as an adult I’m grateful I enjoy “bland” cereal and can choose to get something more sugary as a treat.

[@janb92]

I eat cereal when I have a mean sweet tooth so yeah it is pretty much dessert lol

[@elliottvaughn700]

@@nooneofnote8453 Right. Being able to make sensible food decisions is a gift! When I was a kid there were no food regulations. Dad would buy a bag of mcdoubles and that was food for the weekend.

[@MoonDreamofA]

I'm from Canada where I guess we have stricter advertisement laws-never officially looked into it but seems to be the case from what I've seen and heard over the years. I still remember being so confused watching a Fruit-Loops commercial where they said "Part of a complete breakfast!" and they had a bowl of the cereal on a tray with a glass of orange juice and a glass of milk.... Cereals like Fruit-Loops, Captain Crunch, Lucky Charms and Cinnamon Toast Crunch were all considered treats when I was growing up. The only cereal we really had in the house was bran flakes, Cheerios and maybe frosted Mini-Wheats. The fact that the American companies have the gall to whine about "freedom of speech" is absolute bull shit. It really pisses me off when people complain about their "freedom" being impeded on when it's really not; they just can't handle the idea of someone giving them a nudge in the right direction. It's akin to the child-ish mindset of, "Because you told me to, I'm not gonna do it now."

[@SirFratt]

The worst part about this is that I can 100% see the cereal companies somehow winning, and it open the floodgates for other companies to make up lies about their product’s healthiness

[@thugstin6429]

Corporation shouldn't have free speech rights. Corporations aren't people.

[@TheonSeverasse]

I think that legally there is precedent against them since tabaco companies can't label their products as "healthy" anymore but they could back in the 60s

[@SmokeSAS]

Big league companies spend more money on lawyers than they do their workers. No matter how ludicrous their defense is, they'll have a decent chance of walking away with a slap on the wrist. They spend millions every year on legal team.

[@Gehrich_]

It's actually an uphill battle for them since the crux on their argument relies on persuading people that sugar is healthy. A miniscule amount of people would get swayed into believing that with the laughably flimsy supporting argument of "it does more than make it palatable; it adds bulk and flavor!"

[@StopLyin2Yourself]

its horrible now we gotta worry about them putting shit in are lucky charms and its a "trust me bro" type of feeling

[@renfrien7009]

my mother tried really hard to keep me away from sugary cereals and most fast foods. she didnt always succeed: friends houses and school food made sure of that, but im still better off for the habits she helped me build. i read labels and i give enough of a crap as an adult to avoid the worst.

[@xavi47]

W mom

[@eugenekrabs516]

common mom w

[@shem7146]

Same W mom

[@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother]

Yea growing up and never having Weight issues because of my parents not being stupid with how they fed us, really gives me an appreciation now later in life. You go through school and see so many overweight children, and you see their parents... Who are also overweight. Its kind of sad. But because of that i now appreciate being forced to eat shit like Broccoli when i was young. It also makes all this modern era "diet science" kind of scary. Legions of people pedantically trying to figure out what the optimal nutrient intake is and what diet can be used to achieve that.... When the answer has been sitting infront of us since we were fu cking monkeys. AKA a balanced diet of fruit, veg, meat, dairy, grains AND EXERCISE. Its not rocket science, it never has been. But somehow modern day humanity is so boggled on their own mind games that we can't even figure out how to eat normally. It is literally destroying peoples lives and wellbeing. All in the pursuit of being "healthy".....

[@ivonunes3937]

Good for you and Based mom

[@kerbes93]

What they're doing is considered, Fraud and False Advertising, and they've been allowed to get away with it for decades. It's about time someone finally went after them.

[@sluttyMapleSyrup]

iirc the SCOTUS or FDA were basically lobbied into submission to say, "false advertising within a certain degree is permissible" somewhere between the 70s to 90s.

[@catarinarosario9867]

in Europe, they do not have 'healthy' written on the packages. we're just several steps ahead

[@SeichiiLocks]

I just woke up from a 3 year nap and I’m genuinely shocked to find out that food and drug companies would knowingly lie to their consumers about the safety and the effectiveness of their products. Truly unprecedented

[@Breeze45-s4h]

did you get a "Well Rested" perk?

[@hellofriends5751]

What did you dream about?

[@SeichiiLocks]

@@hellofriends5751 if you’ve ever read the book 1984 it was actually a lot like that

[@lordpumpkinhead265]

I know right! Truly an unfathomable concept.

[@wilmers9644]

The thing is growing up, I knew cereals like cinnamon toast crunch or froot loops are unhealthy, but Cheerio's heart marketing made me think that one was healthy.

[@DariusFlynt_2012]

They claim to lower cholesterol despite having milk which increases it

[@glonkd]

It’s not healthy, but it is better than the others

[@nomoretwitterhandles]

If you literally just look at the added sugars, you could see with your own eyes that it's not healthy. It is a shame that Cheerios also lies about how "healthy" their cereal truly is, but hardly ANY cereals are truly healthy. You might as well have ice cream for breakfast, lmao

[@wilmers9644]

@@nomoretwitterhandles okay so i was 12

[@nomoretwitterhandles]

@@wilmers9644 When I was 12 I knew about added sugars because I like to pay attention during school lol. Regardless, I wasn't being mean, I was just saying to read the box. Unless you were unable to read at 12, in which case, I can't blame you for that.

[@whatisxoxo]

this exact issue has been making me mad for years and im so glad its FINALLY being addressed

[@borislav6561]

SAME! GOD BLESS THE FDA!

[@rjmaxx1258]

It's probably a good thing, but won't change much. People eating junk food know it's bad for them. I'm more concerned with all additives with names most people can't pronounce.

[@borislav6561]

@@rjmaxx1258 If it wasn't going to change much then the cereal companies wouldn't be making such a big fuss about it...

[@Hauntaku]

@@rjmaxx1258 BHT is a packaging thing which is not good for those who are planning to make babies

[@Banjo-Boy]

At least non-gender conforming boys can now be recognized as the young women they are. Soon we will ban all non-healthy food and stoves! Free salad for everyone. Light dressing if you are over 250 lbs.

[@STILL_Spirit.]

Last week he was John Wick, this week he's fighting the Corpo overloads like Johnny Sliverhand, and we all know Charlie busted through the matrix long ago. He is the real world manifestation of all Keanu Reeves' characters.

[@dinolover]

He's a youtuber that has too much time on his hands, get off his nuts.

[@artyomsaveli9681]

Man, I want Charlie to get some guys together and do their own cover of Chippin' In. Bonus points if they got him dressed up the part of an Anti-Corp Rockerboy. That'd be preemo.

[@CrasherX2000]

Johnny Silverhand’s a good one I’m gonna call him that from now on

[@elijahpelito4722]

For me its more of "Full time Jesus, part time Florida man"

[@matthewcurry3565]

Its called the jesus syndrome although he is super chill while holding that in lmao.

[@thomasluggiero3413]

Lobbying should be illegal in itself.

[@isthisacleveruser6879]

I remember doing a science project in high school that revolved around what the most unhealthy thing in our houses were or something like that. It ended up being cereal, so I'm not surprised at all.

[@elyas3876]

more schools should educate kids more about nutrition; your school is based

[@jsedge2473]

@@elyas3876 Most public schools do have health/nutrition classes. They follow govt guidelines for the class which means, ultimately through lobbying, the courses are basically written by these same corporations. I remember our nutrition course had the old food pyramid with a daily recommended 15 servings of bread and cereal which is just laughable. The crazy thing is, these same mega corporations will lobby AGAINST free speech for the populace, they will put out propaganda 24/7 about how much they care about your health, and then turn around and do this. I mean that is truly mind blowing.

[@XODamien]

The most unhealthy household food/drink is soda. Not even an argument.

[@6fejmk]

I visited Florida a few weeks back, and I actually ran into Charlie at a Panera Bread. I asked for his autograph, and he promptly put me in a headlock and brutally delivered blow after blow perfectly to the center of my face. This continued for a total of 1 minute and 57 seconds, after which he released me, where I was rushed to the hospital. I just got out and have fully recovered from the physical and mental trauma. Keep up the great work Charlie!

[@FearStolen]

You must’ve met black shirt Charlie 😮😢

[@Authentic_American]

A true hero!

[@rowangothic]

He gave you the most long-lasting autograph of all time; Permanent trauma! 😍

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

@@ethanawaao1291 Me when I copy and paste comments.

[@NateS917]

​@@FearStolen black shirt Charlie would only punch him once. He musta met tank top charlie

[@astrocat229]

I saw this on your stream. It got me thinking ALL night. If the corporation wins this... thats the end of "false advertising", everything will just be their 1st amendment right to say.

[@AlechiaTheWitch]

Yea. I hope they tell the corpos to f off

[@unknown_wanderer69]

Which is scary. Can't imagine something unhealthy is marketed/advertised as "healthy and nutritious" and it's baffling.

[@DisabledMario]

Like when cigarettes were labeled as beneficial to your health ❤

[@unknown_wanderer69]

@@DisabledMario I'm glad that the cigarette boxes being sold where I'm from still shows pictures of damaged organs as reminder.

[@plsnoteli]

@@DisabledMario not only that, doctors used to prescribe cigarettes for stress

[@dusk4974]

I'm so happy that I cut out sugar two years ago, as well as gluten. I've lost a ton of weight, I feel more energized and alive, I feel less sick all the time. I got into baking because I can't buy cookies anymore and found I adore it. Yeah, the healthy stuff is more expensive, but I enjoy it and it feels so much better. But I still worry about my family who eats cups of sugar all the time, especially my brother's who love cereal. Thank you so much for bringing the court case into the light, we need better control of our foods as people. Best of all, we need a food administration and a drug administration. The U.S. is the ONLY place that has an FDA, which is why so much sugar and garbage is pumped into our "food"

[@steadfastwolf2159]

We are the only place that really needs such an administration because we are one of the few places in the world that values money over life span

[@dusk4974]

@@steadfastwolf2159 yep. Keep the people ill with poison in their food and you'll never lose money because they'll always need medicine.

[@msmaam2040]

I'm a non American so I didn't have any idea that cereals like Lucky Charms and Cinnamon Toast Crunch are marketed as healthy. And it's extra wild that parents believed it was healthy for their kids. I just tried those two cereals last year and they were sweet specially Toast Crunch. There's no way people thought it was healthy.

[@ysucae]

in most of north america any processed food, even fucking bread, have sugar added. our food is very very sweet even compared to the same european or asian thing. like nutella, it taste very different in france, more chocolatey and nutty. i lost a bunch of weight when i moved for school by simply not being in north america. so yeah our palates are super different. no wonder some.parents don't know, they don't think it's all that sweet.

[@samanthabarrow5863]

Im American and I don’t know anyone who thinks it’s actually healthy, but who knows

[@Crazdor]

@@ysucae White bread is basically cake.

[@professorpenne9962]

I just assumed everyone at this point knew it's not exactly good for you the same way cake or candy bars are. I ate a bowl of cookie crisp knowing damn well it isn't healthy lol.

[@patrickriarchy6054]

I don't think most parents actually did. But it's cheap, available and kids want to eat it so parents just gave it to their kids.

[@beszt95]

thanks for speaking on this, the fact that government orgs like the FDA can be bullied or paid off by companies to get what they want is baffling and obviously shouldn't even be possible

[@recursiveslacker7730]

This is literally just how capitalism works. It’s called regulatory capture. Nightmarish.

[@aaurraa444]

there's literally no point in the FDA if they're just going to get paid off, think about it yk?

[@AM-fh7ek]

@@recursiveslacker7730 regulatory capture has literally nothing to do with a current economic system which in this case is crony capitalism. If US had actual free market capitalism there would be less regulations on the market etc. People have their own responsability to make the best decisions for themselves and be informed. Its not a goverments job to tell you what to eat, they should only be regulating the products. But they are too corrupt to do that in the first place. So in reality, the only job the goverment is doing, is a bad one.

[@Gigadoomer13]

Did you know the FEDERAL reserve is a collection of private banks, it has the power to print money and loan it to the federal government on interest. So rather than the U.S Govt print it's own money backed by gold or silver AS STATED IN THE CONSTITUTION we leave it to banks who collect interest on the money thats backed by nothing, and we wonder why inflation has been steadily rising since 1913 (1$ then is worth 25$ today). The federal reserve was conceived in a meeting on Jeykl Island, privately owned at the time in 1910. The people at this meeting included Senator Neslon W Aldrich (Leader of Republican Party), Adam P Andrew(assistant secretary of the U.S treasury dept), Frank Arthur Vanderklip(Pres of National Bank of New York), Henry PDavidson(Banker), Benjamin Strong(Banker), Paul Wahlberg (Another Banker) this meeting was kept secret until after the act passed in 1913. There is a gap between 1910 and 13 in 1912 the titanic sunk along with it Jacob Aster(millionaire made his wealth through real estate, fur trade, Lt Col in the Spanish-American war, and also was friends with Nikola Tesla), Benjamin Guggenheim(Son of a wealthy minor), Isidor Straud(owner of Macy's depth store) These three men have two things in common, they were not bankers, and they opposed the federal reserve.

[@Emerild]

it's been going on for a long time already

[@samhiguma]

in Chile we let them put whatever they want on the box, but they HAVE to display visible standardized warnings like "high in sugar", "high in fat" or "high in calories", so there's no point for them to try to lie about their products anymore

[@Hauntaku]

In some places like in Japan, you'd have to say if it contains bioengineered ingredients. That term is very scary sounding and will encourage people not to buy certain junk foods.

[@ironpulcinella3586]

Mexico too

[@cps22001]

​@@Hauntaku Whey protein supplement has "bioengineered" ingredients. It's not an indicator of safety or healthiness.

[@iqbalindaryono8984]

@@cps22001 well doy, the point is to inform the user that things are added into the food. It'll make users second guess their choice and incentivise them to choose non-processed food. Like, unless you are looking for and understand what whey is, the layman wouldn't bother buying it, much less if it has the term "bioengineered" plastered all over it. inb4 we discuss the semantics of "non-processed" food.

[@bogbog]

Yup. We have the traffic light system. Red for high, yellow for moderate, green for low. It is law in my country to display those on the FRONT of the lable of EVERY product for sugar, salt and fat content. Otherwise you're not allowd to sell your product. Supermarkets will NEVER list any product without it. And general trade grocery shops get raided constantly so they don't take them too.

[@GreeneggsAndbroham]

“Take a look at this situation”: immediate ad, god tier on KZbin

[@PizzaDwight]

The cereal being affordable line is hilarious It’s like 5-6 bucks for a box full of sugar

[@demonlewds]

Less expensive than a carton of eggs right now though ngl

[@deepunder]

​@@demonlewds right where i live eggs are fing 12 dollars

[@sarahr9894]

Also tbf you can get like 10+ meals out of a box of cereal, so in that way it is a lot cheaper.

[@peytonalexander5300]

A box of sugar that people will eat out of for like a week minimum. I mean, I get that American breakfast cereal is incredibly unhealthy, but if you’re counting it as a meal, that’s not actually a bad price.

[@hotdog31227]

@@peytonalexander5300 exactly, it can be eaten over long periods of time which makes the price “low”

[@juansek208]

Charlie: "...allegedly. I don't want them to get mad at me. Allegedly" Also Charlie 1 min later: "You absolute slimy worms."

[@dwatts64]

"absolute slimy worms" is free speech, an opinion. He's not at risk of slander with that. But the part he keeps saying "allegedly" at could be construed as a statement of fact, which is open to a possible suit for slander.

[@wizardlizard55555]

@@dwatts64 Thank u for clarifying, I was actually confused

[@KingJacob105]

​@@p-__you're*

[@rambbler]

Now if this was Australia, he'd get firebombed by the cereal lobbyists. Since he's in Florida he'll just have to stick with getting mugged by an unbathed guy on bath salts.

[@jeremygooden1567]

This reminds me of cigarette companies fighting back when the gov wanted to restrict who can buy their products and complained how unhealthy they are lol

[@razrv3lc]

What’s wild is that vape products right now are where cigs were before the govt stepped in. I work for a Cig/tobacco wholesaler and believe me when I say vape products are an uncharted territory with barely any legislation. Juul is the only one the government hits over and over, mainly because they’re one of the first and the biggest. Shit like Elf Bars are totally unregulated, made in China with pretty much no laws surrounding quality standards, and there have been videos coming out of factory workers testing them *by taking puffs off of them before packaging them.* Also the factories look like entirely unclean and unsafe. There’s no telling just how much harm vape products are going to cause over the next few decades as health problems begin popping up linked to them. There’s just not enough info on them to know.

[@he3004]

@@razrv3lc it's always been like this: >Bad thing happens >It's effects start having serious consequences >Government steps in >New strict rules are instantly enforced >Bad thing stops happening so much cigarettes went like this until governments stepped in factories spewing CO2 went like this until governments stepped in vape is in the way of being like this, we just need the vape using teenagers to make it to their 40-50 and die of lung cancer After watching this video I think the food industry might end up like this

[@steezbupperreee9090]

@@razrv3lc i guarantee the health issues you see with vapes in the upcoming years will be worse than cigs. at least you know what chemicals go into cigarettes with warning labels everywhere. How does a mango ice cream flavour in a plastic stick seem normal at all 😭

[@unboxing_legend7708]

yep. i just put the same thing as a reply comment before seeing this on someone else. false advertisements lead to misusing clearly a harmful i think its substance yet something that can be less harmful being alcohol is considered more dangerous and harmful yet not all of them that harmful. energy drinks were treated the same and just as bad. weed is somehow now common due to the fact that news anchors mislead people to believe it was now a legal drug instead of a legalised drug to be used medicinally now in hospitals. now look how that spiraled out of control. people are addicted to it, drive around stinking their cars out with it, waste life savings over it smoke it in public and around children young kids are also influenced and now take drugs at as young as 10 from what ive heard before which is insane to think and not even the police want to deal with it.

[@ariwilliams8679]

If you want a good rabbit hole, sugar companies during the 90s funded a bunch of “scientific” studies that shifted the blame of the obesity epidemic from sugars to fat. Yes fat is more calorically dense but there’s a lot more to it then that, and the amount of sugar added unnecessarily to products greatly outweighs the presence of fats. (Source I’m a food scientist who works with these large food manufacturers)

[@crazygreip]

In recent years I have personally adopted this point of view regarding companies etc. We need global law that basically states that companies are there to serve customer and any form of anti consumer practices are banned. Period. No squeezing out in any form or way. If thing doesnt serve the best interest of customer then companies are not allowed to do it otherwise they get fined. It would put stop on many things that are bad for public and ppl

[@klutzyk]

My dad talked to me about this years ago and it has infuriated me ever since. As angry as it makes me I was elated to hear you shedding light on the situation. Ignorance isn't so blissful when people are unwell and dying to keep the head of big corporations wealthy.

[@helpmegetto1k4channelnotab78]

Im just gonna randomly say--I love the FDA and the CDC after like 2020---i just realized how much of a W these people are. W FDA id kinda like them to touch upon that RED40 thing why put it in everything if its so bad-bro it doesnt have to be a pretty coloorwho cares if its slightly off color

[@idoalittletrolling4867]

Eat the rich.

[@honeyblue2902]

They'll use their first amendment rights to label their products as 'healthy', then they'll use their first amendment rights to shame their customers for being fat, haha.

[@daveed4616]

Capitalism for u 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@abbeybelanger8118]

@@idoalittletrolling4867 Damn as you name suggest you do be doin a little trolling

[@Nr8k]

It’s crazy that for 20+ years almost every cereal has just been candy

[@MiyuwiTV]

@@p-__ shut

[@crss6846]

Yeah, every time I look at american cereal compared to Australian cereal I'm blown away by the amount of sugar.

[@ColinTimmins]

@@crss6846 They have to find a place to shove all that cheap corn sugar you know… make America obese, profit!

[@Teh_Duck]

@@crss6846 everything here is loaded with sugar, most americans eat up-to 80g of sugar a day on average.

[@Manticorn]

At least rice crispies are okay... right?

[@Moong0at]

I figured it out guys. It’s not that they’re lying to us, it’s just they don’t know they’re lying to themselves! They’ve been doing it for so long that they got lost in the sauce

[@JK-9107]

Happens to the best of us

[@crab7564]

lost in the milk

[@222taxation8]

Doctors actually loves it when people get lied to.

[@ince55ant]

this is so true. in the 1800s the capitalist overlords were fully aware of the cruelty involved in amassing their fortunes. but their kids lived guilded lives full of silver spoons. then the kids of those kids, etc. until now where they've all convinced eachother that they're on top because its good for humanity and/or basically chosen by god to lead us will with their wise choices

[@dukedunac]

They are 100% aware of their lies and the damage they cause, but they don't give a shit. We aren't people to them and our lives have a well-defined dollar value.

[@donatreides]

9:05 They can likely make the claim of cereal being "nutrient dense" because energy nutrition (aka: fats and sugars) is technically considered a type of nutrition. By that definition of course, a can of Crisco is "nutrient dense". (For completeness: protein is also a type of energy nutrition in addition to being a source of amino acids.)

[@jsedge2473]

They also add in a mega dose of artificial vitamins and minerals into cereal in the US which also probably allows them to claim it.

[@TenaciousDealer]

This is like something you'd see from a town hall meeting in Parks & Rec. Just so depressingly cynical considering this is real life.

[@Imcryingconstantly]

I saw Rec and that scared the shit out of me

[@michaeljeanrichard4]

"i was at Ramsett park and there was a sign that said don't drink the sprinkler water so i made sun tea out of it and now i have an infection"

[@Reids0me]

Haha you're right this is literally a Sweetums style antic

[@MitchellD249]

Well it's not like these shows just make up the scenarios in them out of thin air with the intended message being "wow, wouldn't it be bizarre and terrible to live in some parallel universe where stuff like this happens?" It's satire based on our reality. The only thing that's supposed to separate them is the satirical depictions being wildly exaggerated to make it obvious that the intended message is "this is bad". But sometimes, the reality is already so wildly and obviously bad that it becomes indistinguishable from parody. That's when you start thinking "why does this feel like a sitcom episode?"

[@nicomuda1994]

The FDA needs this W. Added sugar goes waayyyy under the radar when it comes to bad eating habits, weight gain, cholesterol, fatty tissue and high blood pressure problems, etc. Just about eliminating sugar and replacing any sweets with fruit has really been good for me... Just changing where you get your sugar and lowering it overall can be easy and makes such a difference in energy and overall healthy feeling!

[@jewels3846]

I am not gonna lie. And i know artificial sweetners are still bad (but not harmful without inhuman constant consumption for like aspartame) but when I entered grade 10 canada rolled out a no sugary treats sold in school cafeterias. So coke was replaced with diet and zero, I am addicted to pop always have been, always way. Just cutting out the sugar from having a sugared pop every day made me feel so much better even though i still drink pop. I cant even finish a regular bottle anymore in the same amount of time because the sugar makes my heart race. I did not realise how big a change that it was for me until after the change and feeling better overall. I did not know how bad my body felt until it started feeling better

[@StoicVeR]

Honey seems to be the best alternative. I've had no issues with it, and it is fantastic in coffee, or used in my hot chocky milk. But white sugar is the absolute worse, it causes inflammation and an increase in bacteria content, and fucks up the pH value of your blood. But the inflammation is the big thing, and gastric diseases such as acidity in the stomach. But sugar is also very addictive as well.

[@Aliyah_666]

Sugar alone isn't a health problem. Overconsumption is and ignorance is an epidemic. Does this give a company a right to lie for money...no, but is it also on the parents and adults who buy food to ACTUALLY read a label not just the "we're healthy" part. Yes.

[@kingderpington6082]

@@StoicVeR honey is sugar at its core is made up of the same components of other sugars like white sugar / brown sugar, and sugar-free "honey" is not honey but man-made ingredients to make the texture and taste similar while using the same chemicals as sugar free sweeteners to make it sweet. That being said the ratio of glucose to fructose is higher in honey than other sugar, thus honey doesnt raise blood-sugar levels as much as the same quantity of other sugars. However honey has more calories than straight sugar so its a trade off. Im not quite sure about the inflammation and bacteria content, that seems more likely up to the individuals body, also I hope my stomach is acidic, because if it isnt thats a problem. Sugar is incredibly addictive, regardless of the type of sugar, honey is equally as addictive as zero calorie sweeteners and normal sugars.

[@mak_707]

I'm surprised they haven't started off with wonder bread. That thing tastes like cake... 😓

[@BeanerMan13]

The guy who pitched "cereal is healthy" is the same guy who pitched "pizza has 1 serving of vegetables"

[@EW-ed6kd]

I mean, it IS nutritionally balanced at least. In large animal nutrition in vet school we talked about that. I definitely wouldn’t say it’s healthy, but it’s balanced!

[@Nenerii]

@@EW-ed6kd the hell it is. Just a bowl of carbs and sugar, along with milk from another creature. Its garbage, simple as.

[@tylergriffin7012]

Depends on whether the tomato sexually identifies as a fruit or a vegetable

[@louislang7590]

pizza does have vegetables....they serve a supreme pizza in hospital

[@DahliaTheHologram]

I don't like being mad, so instead, I am happy that you covered this. I hope it makes a difference in how people (who watch this video) think about the subject.

[@raracool04]

Common PMA W

[@ryubiskj]

this reminds me of when reagan wanted to count ketchup as vegetable to be able to claim that school lunchs are healthier lmao

[@uhohiateasbestos1535]

Not surprising! because most mainstream ketchups have high fructose corn syrup in them

[@nullvoid3545]

Wanted? That happened and is still happening in the USA.

[@StripedJacket]

He’s wrong though. It’s puréed tomato + stuffs. Tomatoes are fruits So eating fries + ketchup is a actually potato + tomato which is a fruit & Vegetable Salad.

[@j0hncarp]

And people still venerate that @sshole

[@adrienperie6119]

@@StripedJacket "Salad" 😅

[@kaelanniblett2460]

It's really telling that they're not even trying to argue that their cereals are healthy and are instead going straight to arguing that they should be able to lie to people without consequence

[@ieffoo7866]

As a food technology student who just finished a design case on cereal products this gave me PTSD

[@hughquigley5337]

How so? What were you learning about specifically that brought back bad memories? Just wondering. You don’t have to share if you don’t want to.

[@Akatsuki69387]

@@hughquigley5337 I think they're being a bit hyperbolic. They're saying that what they learned about the cereal companies was so bad, and so shocking/repulsive that they can't really look at it the same way ever again.

[@diane9496]

@@hughquigley5337 spectrum

[@Agoodusername.]

I have a friend that works on the train and he told me that the cereal has like rats and it's not covered so there is a bunch of water getting moldy. It is very gross but lucky charms are too good to give up.

[@gavinquigley1616]

@@hughquigley5337 Oh shit another Quigley

[@autopsyjuice6648]

Hopefully soon we can also talk more in depth about ingredients. For example many cereals contain Red40, which has been shown to damage cells

[@_brownie_mix_0404]

This reminds me of a documentary called "Food Inc." It exposes the food industry and it is actually horrifying. We watched as part of a film class that I took a few years ago and every time I see something questionable in my food, I think of that documentary. While gross, I highly recommend watching it. It's educational, eye opening, and it sticks with you.

[@Oodoos]

Similar documentary: Seaspiracy, yeah the name is buzzword hell, but it’s vile what these guys discovered revolving fish and even the people supposed to be protecting them.

[@danimal41014]

@@Oodoos yea I’ve watched seaspiracy and that’s some messed up stuff

[@revatorjohn]

Just wait until you learn about the meat industry and what Teddy Roosevelt had to do to fix it 😬 I know it’s from over a hundred years ago but it’s still interesting and frankly scary to learn about

[@justinianthegreatandnerd6377]

@@revatorjohn i will not listen to any teddy roosevelt slander. he brought us the teddy bear, which brought gummy bears.

[@Retro80sMan1]

Is no one going to mention Super Size Me?

[@afteritsallsaidanddoneisti9285]

FDA:"so this cereal that's banned in 40 countries is... Healthy" kellogg's: yes

[@boxeswithfoxes]

Which countries and what brand are you referring to? 👀

[@AdequateName.]

False advertisement is a crime though, if they're falsely advertising healthy food that should be a huge lawsuit. Freedom of speech or not. It's not relevant.

[@ninjafrog6966]

These companies are delusional if they think shit like fruity pebbles, Frosted Flakes and lucky charms are healthy for people. The FDA is finally doing something about this and now they’re mad they can’t lie to people to sell their products anymore. Massive W for the FDA

[@Ryan_DeWitt]

OK define what is healthy in legal terms for me in regards to food.

[@wildfire9280]

@@Ryan_DeWitt Hmm. Well I’m stumped, I have no clue. Wait a minute… Maybe that’s why we have an entire agency dedicated to enforcing bare minimum health standards for consumers.

[@oddshi]

The companies dont think the cereals are healthy I’m sure… they just want the label to mislead and i crease sales

[@Ryan_DeWitt]

@@wildfire9280 So, a food to be healthy then must meet all minimal RDA vitamin and nutrient requirements is what you are saying? I know of no single food that does that.

[@mothcatcher893]

They're not delusional. They know they're not healthy they just don't care. Cereals being a "healthy" product is a selling point for them.

[@SebastianHernandez-ps6rm]

something similar happened in Mexico, every single food product was forced to place seals on the packages saying "excess calories", "excess sugar", "excess fat", "artificial flavorings" makes you think twice about buying some chips or a soda but, as far as I know, it doesnt did much, specially when this options are cheaper

[@albertogomez1347]

I agree, most people just ignore the labels and keep buying the same thing

[@Luke-mi6gb]

Also probably everything had to have at least one or two seals I'm guessing? If everything has the warning it's the same as the warning not existing at all. Like the California cancer warnings. Literally everything will cause cancer eventually so everything has it, meaning no one takes them seriously.

[@Xendrick]

Part of the problem is that sadly, being healthy takes much more money than usual It's hard to try to live longer when your priority is to get by and survive on a limited budget; health is a multi-faceted issue with many problems and solutions from different disciplines

[@catbunny4785]

@@Xendrick yeah expensively because of inflation

[@housemouseshorts]

the options are cheaper becouse this is a genocide playing out in real time over years. This is targeted towards blacks. Women and poor kids. There is nothing you can do about it. Nothing will save any of you. Novermber 4th 2024 will be the last day of a peaceful society. There will be no election just war. Enjoy life while you can you have a single year left

[@snack_bar2474]

I don’t eat cereal because it’s “healthy”. I eat it because it’s easy and tastes like dreams. Then again I’d be happier if these companies went out of business.

[@Raccnnibal]

I rarely do eat it n it makes my teeth hurt but yeah they can go with something else like a Sweet breakfast or fun breakfast. Battle it on court is ridiculous cuz their claims are absolute garbage. I literally eat cereal as a snack.

[@duncanrobertson6472]

Yeah convenience was always a major factor for me. I ate cereal for breakfast until I found a way of making oatmeal that competed well on both speed and taste. This is what I do now if you're curious: Big handful of thick rolled oats Cover with water Microwave 1 min Pour off extra water Add generous serving of peanut butter (I like to refrigerate the stuff you grind in the store but anything works) Mix with a sturdy spoon Throw a banana on top (or whatever fruit you like) Maybe I'm just a sucker for peanut butter, but this is hard to top in my eyes. Very satiating.

[@DrakonDragoon]

So you want the companies that make not only a mostly nutritional cereal but also several other food products than line the grocery store shelf like granola bars and cheeze its to go out of business? Keep in mind alot of the little companies are owned by the big companies nowadays.

[@SierraAAM]

@@DrakonDragoon "[...] Companies that make *not only a mostly nutritional cereal* [...]" Damn, General Mills is now setting up burners to preach their utterly braindead take on cereal.

[@SgtEaglefort]

change your eating habits.

[@raydromeda3777]

I don't think we need a food health and safety association such as the FDA to tell us that cereal that is full of sugar, regardless of code labels, such as fructose, sucrose, cane syrups etc, is unhealthy for you. These cereal companies think we are idiotic.

[@swirlypan4174]

They also did this in Mexico were they placed a big label on the box were it warned you about high sugar and sodium and they also removed cereal mascot to stop enticing children from wanting it

[@csolisr]

I'm surprised they didn't have the guts of making food with those labels illegal altogether. Either brands submit to limits on the amount of sugar / salt / fat they can add to their products, or they're forced to close.

[@cooldude2251]

Honestly there should be a Surgeon General warning on cereal boxes

[@deezboyeed6764]

​@@csolisr but this is 'murica where government regulations = literally communism.

[@deezboyeed6764]

@Michelle It already is in most of the civilised world.

[@vaanli6464]

I made a sugar-free desserts company and had to fight tooth and nail to get the right to label my products as a "healthier option."" This finally feels like justice looooooong overdue! Edit: hopefully Charlie doesn't mind but I'm getting questions, and people think it's a lie. Sweet Business Healthy Living in Australia if you want to look it up. YES, it is possible, and it's a shame you think someone out here isn't trying. There's plenty of us who care but we don't have the money like these asshole companies to promote.

[@cypruns]

Artificial sugars are unhealthy and kill gut bacteria. Less processed foods are optimal.. Or less harsh sugar alternatives like stevia and monkfruit. A homemade brownie is far healthier than a sugar free packaged "brownie" any day.

[@troyesivan4416]

Are you using artificial sweeteners? Most of them are very unhealthy and cause cancer

[@prophesin]

@@p-__ intellectual

[@kylerkastner2808]

W

[@SirEdigarious]

@@p-__ NO YOU ARE A LIER

[@strawberrysangria1474]

I love that you said "Box of poison", because that's exactly what it is. If the FDA cracks down on them, it's going to be a horror show of dangerous food practices. Sugar is the snow on the tip of this iceberg. Holding them accountable for pesticides/ Roundup herbicide in their products should be the next target.

[@Hero-oz9gx]

^^^^^this^^^^^

[@Bhstickman]

Not to mention vegetable/hydrogenated/canola oils

[@MFWb00bi3s]

​@@Bhstickman vegetable oil is bad? canola oil is bad? I mean soybean, which can be labeled vegetable, fine. The rest? Yeah no.

[@deezboyeed6764]

God damn america food safety standards are fucking hell. Everytime I hear about the us it sounds more and more like corperatist hellscape.

[@danielhicks1824]

@@MFWb00bi3s partially hydrogenated is bad though most foods have phased those out

[@DEEZNUTS-ko6si]

i work in a candy factory, specifically on ceral production, idk how's it in the US but here we do add powdered vitamins, quite a lot of it, however the amount of sugar we also add is unreal, about 20kg if I'm not mistaken

[@kaw8473]

I want to add insight. I am on WIC (women, infants and children) food subsidies and the food options are insanely limited. It covers cereal and juice with sugar but no sugar free options and I've always assumed they were in bed with big sugar and big corn. They provide 1 dozen eggs for the month but so much cereal, we can't eat it all. Major contribution to diabetes among the poor.

[@SgtMjRomero]

West Virginia has what's known as the EBT snap program. You can apply for an allotment of cash that can be exclusively used on food and drink items with a few generic rules *You meet or are below a certain economic threshold *You also have kids below 18 years of age *Idk if child support and other subsidies are accounted for Basically you get a credit card restricted to food and drinks that aren't alcoholic, served at restaurants, or are considered luxury items. Unfortunately we're in the second poorest state in the US, so we get the unhealthy stuff in bulk.

[@Hauntaku]

@@SgtMjRomero Meanwhile in Canada you can get a bunch of fruits, veggies, bread, and canned goods.

[@SozBoz]

​@@SgtMjRomero Don't know if it's the same thing but the only place I've seen a sign saying "EBT ACCEPTED" was a Burger King.

[@mrfoodskater]

Yeah it was the free food that made you fat not your decisions

[@CapucineNighly]

They are, if they can be paid off and bribed by these big companies. They are literally in bed with them.

[@clashwithkeen]

The most annoying part is that the cereals that market themselves as the "healthiest" like raisin bran crunch and simply granola contain 2x as much sugar as the obviously candy cereals like froot loops and captain crunch.

[@cbchansey6866]

Literally false wtf

[@mohammedjeffali1076]

Rasin bran crunch, not the regular one but the one with oat clusters. 19 grams a cup without milk. Who eats a cup of cereal? I bought it thinking it was regular Rasin bran and it's too sweet.

[@ballisticcranberrypeat7777]

You can make your point without jumping into hyperbole. They have too much sugar, fine. They absolutely don’t have 100% more sugar than Captain Crunch or lucky charms or fruit loops or whatever lol. Just do a fucking search first.

[@snalmera]

@@ballisticcranberrypeat7777 you know, it was so easy to do so I did look it up. Captain crunch has 12g per serving and Raisin Bran has 18g per serving. They’re right, chill.

[@christoffer1125]

​@@cbchansey6866 simply granola has almost 19g of sugar per 100g. Meanwhile, coca cola has like 10g lol. Stop eating straight sugar for breakfast

[@TheTownNarcoleptic]

As a Brit, I’ve been bashing my head against the wall for a while over how insanely scummy the cereal companies get with their marketing tactics in America. Hearing the phrase “in-house research” explained a whole fecking lot, though.

[@ThorfinnSonofThors892]

Yeah. The government and corporations really go hand in hand in America and seem to protect each other a lot. It's a corrupt, greed-driven system that's getting fucking tiresome.

[@thewooddove2]

​@@ThorfinnSonofThors892 late-stage capitalism is scary

[@isaaclai1636]

​@@thewooddove2 Fight against it then. Join a local anti-fascist group, read more about leftist theory, the proletariat need to gain class consciousness and work together if we are to overthrow capitalism.

[@notreal1477]

The biggest misconception everyone seems to be missing is modern wheat/corn is not even close to healthy. Weve genetically modified both over the past 100 years so they yield large quantities and so they are very disease resistant crops. Yes they have some fibre but, as far as nutrients go, there's nothing there but carbs.

[@nicci_valentine]

I moved to New Zealand from the UK, and god damn does Britain have it good with better regulations. I had to give up cereal here because the cereal (same brands as what I ate in the UK) are so excessively loaded with sugar that it's nuseating.

[@paranormaltester2036]

Something similar happened in Mexico where company's that sell surgery sweets like candies, cereal, chips and stuff like that cannot directly advertise to children and can't have cartoon mascots on their products.

[@scarymonsterzz]

Growing up as a kid in the 90s my parents would regularly feed me frosted flakes, orange juice and a pop tart for breakfast because it was "healthy" literally just sugar on sugar on sugar.

[@joshuaiyo5115]

Pop tarts are especially shitty imo

[@TheLazarusOperation]

OJ isn't too bad. And there is one level up from Pop Tarts that's even worse lmao. Toaster Strudel

[@Laocoon283]

They didn't feed you that cause its healthy they fed that to you cause your poor

[@psbo.]

@@Laocoon283 bro ever since i was young i was eating eggs 💀 i was always angry i could never have these cereals, but THANK GOD my parents thought of my health. love em for that

[@shevrett2658]

@@TheLazarusOperation Yeah OJ can be really good for athletes. Look at Michael Jordan, he drinks it daily. Pop tarts and cereal though, holy crap no

[@streled5361]

FDA "To be branded *healthy* , cereals _HAVE_ to be healthy " Cereal brand Corps "WITCHCRAFT!!"

[@andrewlord8366]

In Australia we have the health star ratings standard which are all encompassing, anything from mayonnaise to flour can have it, it’s max five stars and most things only get three, unhealthy potato chips could get a 0.5 the biggest number I’ve seen is 4.5. It’s a pretty accurate way of seeing how healthy something is at a glance

[@StudioHannah]

I like that! As long as the stars are telling the truth and the companies aren’t cheating, that’s great. Wish we’d adopt that over here in the USA.

[@Queue3612]

Bottled Water has a 5 star rating

[@Cheesusrice69222]

As opposed to a bottle of coke yes water is 5 stars

[@williamchamberlain2263]

@@Queue3612 note: 5 stars of health, not the 5 Star political party

[@WakandaHoe]

This is really cool

[@mrboojay]

We now know they don’t know the law “false advertising” already exists nor what “freedom of speech” actually stands for.

[@ahoeforym0281]

quite literally, I eat cereal as a snack as opposed to a "healthy" breakfast. Whenever I crave something sweet, cereal is where I tend to lean towards instead of candies

[@mikuenjoyerXD]

Thank you! That makes so much more sense to eat cereal as a snack

[@Numbabu]

Don’t blame the people, blame the system. Cereal companies produce a lot of propaganda, and nutritional education is seriously lacking. The focus should be on programs which make clear what healthy food actually is, and on policy like this which limits the spread of disinformation. If people don’t change their minds when faced with the facts, that is actually on them, but many people were raised being told over and over again that cereal is healthy, and they simply haven’t questioned it. Most people are not that stupid, they have just been intentionally misinformed by corporations.

[@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr]

i eat dry koko krunch duo as a fun snack

[@shrimpyalfredo3933]

​@@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr i had that krave chocolate cereal recently. It really is sugary crack as cereal.

[@12fishcake]

Man, the way these companies talk about themselves you'd think their cereal is single handily keeping the world intact. Even if they turned around and admitted they're wrong, changed the packaging accordingly or made it genuinely healthier, they behave in such an underhanded way that I'd have a hard time believing whatever it is they do.

[@darkest_eclipse8271]

It’s generally the case when you have long standing and powerful corporate giants that they will use any underhanded tactic to continue a practice that generates them revenue, even if it is unethical.

[@12fishcake]

@@darkest_eclipse8271 Sadly very true. It's just cereals in this case but when it comes to the food industry as a whole, all the big ones are like that historically. A good example is the "food pyramid" chart we've all seen in school, each industry fought to have their produce portrayed in a healthier light regardless of facts rendering the whole thing pretty vague and unhelpful despite it being thought as a basis of healthy eating.

[@samml3566]

I am a cereal fanatic. Seriously, it is my favorite type of food. In fact, fruity pebbles and lucky charms are in my top 5 lmao. However, I dont know a single person who eats cereal and thinks it is a good nutritious breakfast. We eat it because it is good, or we used the devils lettuce.

[@mikuenjoyerXD]

real

[@Freakingbean]

Thiss my issue. It's an regulation. We aren't children

[@TheDandyMann]

I recently found out that little Debbie's makes a nutty bar cereal and its amazing

[@gleipnirrr]

​@@Freakingbean but children are children

[@jaythecappy]

You might be smart enough to know that, but there are genuinely stupid people out there who don't understand that corporations can and will lie to them. It's annoying that they're around, but they don't deserve to be hurt just for being stupid

[@LuisPerez-5]

They should be sued for false advertisement

[@alkalare4379]

This is hilarious. I work retail, and whenever I have to put a box of cereal back I always check the nutrition label and its always terrible for you. I would be totally open to cereal again if they made them healthier

[@hashbrown777]

You guys should have something like weet-bix over there, right?

[@lootmaster1337]

Without the unhealthy part they don't taste good. Try eating some pure oats and tell me at what point you hate breakfast

[@bigschmill294]

Exactly. They probably got away with it because they do technically put the nutrition information on the box. So it's not "their fault if the customer didnt check the specifics." It's gross. But technically (not yet anyway) illegal, so they got around it.

[@krow14]

Cereal is kinda mid, i too work at a pic and save but thats besides the point, i get tired of fake food man... its super convenient but it makes me feel empty all the time.

[@zachbunch8701]

Magic Spoon is there for the fitness minded but it’s still not a healthy option just “healthier”