This UI Design is CHAOTIC EVIL! (Spitfire LABS)

[@kerchermusic]

9:36 the dynamics symbol is a stylized camera aperture, but it's a weak metaphor. In a camera, the aperture controls the amount of light coming through the lens... so it would be more appropriate to be used as a symbol for volume-'how much of a given amount of signal can come through at a given time?' Or, perhaps, as a 'one-slider' control for mic position/amount of 'room' in the signal, as aperture by proxy also controls depth of field-'how intimate or broad is the subject in relation to its environment?' As a symbol for dynamics, which is neither of those concepts, it's a bit obtuse.

[@IDDQDSound]

Ahhh that explains a lot! Thanks :) pinning the comment for others who may be interested!

[@BojanBoyss]

Finally an unbiased opinion about it. I hope they'll see the video, great job on this. You forgot to talk about their promo videos which are like "we did that or done that and because creativity shouldn't be complicated...." while full composition is played with a lots of automation and lots of instances... I need to hear how the instrument will sound in isolation on its own.... But on the other hand it's free and I shouldn't complain, most annoying thing to me is how people are biased about it, like it's the best thing ever made

[@IDDQDSound]

They sure make creativity at least a little complicated haha

[@msld_sound]

I like the weird 20th-century collage art on the LABS libraries, but EVERY OTHER CRITIQUE is valid imo. Spitfire's UI/UX design, especially within LABS, is truly abysmal. You've got my subscription and my support!

[@IDDQDSound]

Haha I do like the thumbnails too to be honest, just sometimes wish there was a description or something with some of the lesser known instruments :)

[@tomcootemusic]

I had no idea you could change the reverb type either. Point made!

[@IDDQDSound]

This is very validating :)

[@SorooshMhs]

I love LABS but i agree with pretty much everything you’re saying here haha. I could probably get by with the unused space and most of the cons but the lack of a search bar is so annoying

[@IDDQDSound]

exactly! It would be so easy to add too so I really wanna see them implement it :) It's crazy to think how much they've added to it even since this video :)

[@SorooshMhs]

@@IDDQDSound oh nice have they added any features?

[@TheREAPERBlog]

A masterpiece Arya.

[@IDDQDSound]

Thank you. That's so kind!

[@leafac]

I’m 1:30 minutes in and can already say that this has got to be your best video yet! 🙃

[@LetsTalkAboutReaper]

i approve this message!

[@IDDQDSound]

I hope your feelings didn't change by the end :)

[@TheRabidCabbage]

This is the first vid I've seen on this channel, but it was justifiably ruthless and hilarious! Sub well earned.

[@cormacredmond12345]

Tried LABS a couple of years ago. Gave up on it the same day because of the reasons you mentioned, and I wouldn't bother with it again. Nice summary -- well done.

[@IDDQDSound]

Thanks! I truly hope they spend some time on these issues. Cuz it's otherwise awesome!

[@helmanfrow]

Everything you said and more. I can't tell you how happy I am to learn that there are others who have the same experience as me with Labs. Great sounds, horrifying, abysmal user experience.

[@IDDQDSound]

I'm glad I'm not alone :)

[@m2m]

Brilliant, I'm one of those who keeps suggesting LABS to people but always point out how they're barely usable, unless you save your own presets in the DAW. I hope they see this video. Ironically, I've been using Decent Sampler more and more recently, and a lot of the (free) instrument libraries for it are made by the same people from Spitfire. DS itself has a bit of a UI issue here and there, but overall it's a totally different beast.

[@IDDQDSound]

I have to check DS out! You're the second person who mentioned it this week :)

[@NihilQuest]

I don't know the reason, but so many times with this plugin I had "something went wrong" message, where it just lost the libraries, probably after an update and had to download them again. But yeah, the sounds are great.

[@ExplicableCashew]

This could be the start of Arya's Tantacrul arc

[@IDDQDSound]

I hope so! My editing skills are nowhere near his of course! He's releasing new video on Saturday and I'm really excited!

[@yidneth]

Oh my god, I was having dinner and I laughed so much I almost choked. First, I want to state as well I LOVE LABS too and I'm so grateful they have put these rare sounds together but I felt EVERY PAIN you mention LOL and to add more I'm one of those users that get the dreadful ERROR #1 message each time I update or add a new LAB even if I DON'T MOVE the library at all. So YES!! It forces me to REPAIR all over again :) so now when they say "new LABS OUT!!!" I'm yaaaay! and then oh no!! LOL. (sometimes it randomly happens too). All in all, it's worth it but yes! And please, yes... a search button!! Cos I had already (I HAD ALREADY AS IN 1992 AS YOU SAY) learned the whole list in order but it changed again with latest update anyway LOL

[@IDDQDSound]

OMG I can't believe you're commenting on my video! I discovered you randomly last year on Spotify, looking for Dungeons and Dragons music. Obsessed with your stuff

[@yidneth]

@@IDDQDSound You just made my day! haha. I appreciate the compliment! :) Someone knows my music!! :) I'm into fantasy music which is not the most mainstream option XD but once a geek, geek forever I guess so thanks for the encouragement. And yes, I love LABS and I am so grateful but literally I was nodding yes, yes... that! LOL I was all the time expecting the big error1 thing... believe me YOU'RE LUCKY... If I have had to reinstall the whole things tens of times... (go figure). I also learned... FREEZE, FREEZE TRACKS! so many wip projects are already using them and when it crashes it's awful. I've been on reaper a long time :) but it's always lovely to learn new things and tips :) but this video was an instant subscribe LOL XD Thank you! (and for the humour too)

[@IDDQDSound]

Thanks for the sub! Normally I do quite different stuff here but hoping to roast more plugins in the future!

[@Karmachrome16mm]

OMG Thanks!! I spent two hours last night trying to figure out WTF these controls were. Yep - went to their site looking for info and their instructional videos pass right over any details regarding this ridiculous UI. I didn't find a use manual - so your video was the most enlightenment I've found yet. The instruments do sound really good though... GREAT Video - thanks so much - it made my day!!

[@Atezian]

12:25 shaping the envelope of a sound is a convinient 12 clicks away. Hahaha

[@Outtallectuals]

This is the culmination of your audio tutorials and comedy all into a cohesive IDDQD experience 😆

[@IDDQDSound]

loool thanks bud :)

[@samnene]

Wished labs had a dark mode. The white blinding ash when searching through sounds.

[@IDDQDSound]

That too!

[@ResonantPeak]

The lack of a search bar in a sample library struck me as a glaring ommision, but you articulated what bothered me about It better than I could.

[@IDDQDSound]

huge omission! Someone told me they are releasing a new software

[@TadDoylemusic]

Hello Arya! Thanks for everything you do for the REAPER community! Today I stumbled on this video again and after watching it, I decided to give Labs another shot. I am glad that I did. They seem to have corrected a lot of the roadblocks about downloading their libraries. I suspect that your video did not fall on deaf ears with the Labs dev team. Thanks for giving a shit and making great content. 😀

[@license_________2________chill]

Good news! They updated the UI. Bad news! Somehow it's even worse.

[@electricwhiterabbit]

You hit the nail on the head with this plugin. I have the Symphony Orchestra and I never bothered with the LAB stuff. Your video points out what NOT to do with UI interface experience.

[@IDDQDSound]

Thank you! :)

[@GmT0Curwen]

Right on mate, I loved the sounds but desisted on using LABS because I couldn't put up with the UI.

[@IDDQDSound]

I hope Spitfire looks at these comments and get motivated to revamp it a lil bit :)

[@Reapertips]

OMG WOOOOOOOW Amazing

[@RyanLafford]

reapertips!

[@DeeKeyLP]

while i'm minimalistic in VST instruments, as i don't care how it looks and spend 99% of time editing midi, i agree with your points. this process would be so much faster if they improved on what you said. it still is a gem, though. i love their drums so much, and didn't even try different instruments of LABS, but i'm sure they are top-notch in terms of vibe and sound quality.

[@IDDQDSound]

I got to play with some of their paid libraries in school and I do miss their sound! Really well done and relatively painless to use :)

[@bleeooptv]

After building my new pc I only redownloaded a handful of those, the ones I use the most and then saved presets in my daw to load them ready to go just to not have to deal with the gui at all. I’m happy to discover I’m not alone.

[@IDDQDSound]

yea same here. Fx Chains ftw :)

[@genuinefreewilly5706]

Thanks for saying what I am afraid to say. Really solid questions I appreciate free but Ive spent way to much time fiddling with my computers directory to make sure all the parts are in the right place Yeh I love some of the sample libraries and I like the free BBC orchestra which is a different animal to download and install

[@tomw1970]

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that feels this way. On the other hand I knew there was no way on Earth I was the only one that feels this way about the interface. BBCSO is only slightly better as far as the interface goes. At least it's laid out like a regular orchestra. Good thing for spifire that they make great sounding products because the rest of the user experience is, well, quite aggravating.

[@IDDQDSound]

BBCSO is really cool with its UI design. Even though it's bigger than LABS, it kinda makes sense and I love the descriptions for each section too!

[@Jefuslives]

File under: "What do you want for nothing?"

[@andreasfranzmann9634]

Arya, how long did it take you to create this masterpiece of a video? I have probably seen all of your vids but this is ridiculous and I can only do guesswork how many days / month it has taken to put all of this together. For a good reason though: You're absolutely not alone with your opinion. LABS is a joke on the UI although it just sounds (mainly) wonderful. If I would use it regularly I would probably need to save presets in Reaper and order these in which ever manner I'd prefer. And for me the golden raspberry goes to the turning movement of the big nob. I sometimes think they programmed this to make fun of us not getting it to work... If you are Yin, Spitfire is Yang: All of the fluff, none of the info. :-) Anyways, thank you for these incredibly entertaining 20 minutes!

[@IDDQDSound]

Thanks buddy! It took me probably a good 20 hours :) I also made some last minute edits and then uploaded the wrong file lol so there's that!

[@cjcurcio]

Too funny, my man!! Excellent work!

[@DThompson55]

Big Love to IDDQD and to Tanatcrul - I thought I was the only one who detested the UI.

[@IDDQDSound]

Nice to see a tantacrul fan here!

[@DThompson55]

@@IDDQDSound his take down of unison midi pack was epic.

[@mudi2000a]

@@DThompson55 just when I played this video I get a new version of the Unison chord pack ad which is even more cringeworthy.

[@oneammonday]

Yeah. I found that reverb menu by accident once, but how do I get the pitch wheel to work?

[@IDDQDSound]

On some of the patches it doesn't work afaik. On more synthy elements it does :)

[@chrisfezzler2878]

Tried to install it and couldn't figure it out. After installing the User Interface and LABS ,the only VSTi that appeared in Reaper FX was the LABS website. I never found the UI. Uninstalled everything.

[@stephenbreitling2327]

oooh hold your horses! but actually you are right! i never really thought about, why i didn’t use spitfire labs anymore, after i installing them. i didn’t, because they are weird. the design isn’t quite as horrible, as you make it look like, but yes, it’s far from good as well! i always had this unspoken “what the...!” on my tongue, when using this plugin and thanx to you, i now know why!

[@IDDQDSound]

Hahaa happy to help :)

[@daxu9605]

Actually, it’s more useful to just click on the UI button in reaper fx window and get all the params. I wonder if the Reaper preset menu can be used to save favorites? Great video. I feel your pain.

[@IDDQDSound]

The thing is, there are parts of the UI I'd still like to see. For example, the Piano roll on the bottom instantly tells me the range of every instrument I select. So I wanna see that. Also yeah I mean REAPER lets me save it as presets, but I use 2 other DAWs quite regularly too. With Serum I can share all my presets across DAWs.

[@HadgeHughes]

OK, Fair play, LABS is free stuff and pretty good stuff at that - BUT - this is absolutely spot on and the very best review of LABS I have seen. I have LABS (who wouldn't - it's FREE) however, I don't get to using it as much as I probably should simply because it most deinately is CHAOTIC EVIL. One positive is that I do use it inside Plugin Guru's Unify plugin - mostly because it extends the playability of LABS - but Spitfire really needs to take note of all the points you have made in this video - Great job 👍

[@IDDQDSound]

Thank you! Never heard of Unify before this post but I definitely need to explore it :)

[@HadgeHughes]

@@IDDQDSound Yes, really worth checking out. Expands the possibilities of most other plugins and is constantly being developed (I'm not affiliated in any way - just an enthusiastic user)

[@dprice112]

"Who hurt you?" 😂

[@DThompson55]

And why does the pitchwheel not do anything? Or does it work on an instrument by instrument basis?

[@IDDQDSound]

I think it mostly does nothing (on some synths it does I think) but maybe it's because some of the patches are samples? Not that that's a deterrent, but maybe it would mean they would have to code in a pitch shift algo and they didn't want to? I've seen hyper-realistic libraries not have the pitch bend because it tends not to sound natural, but it definitely doesn't apply to all LABS, and if people want the unrealistic sound, we may as well give it to them right? :)

[@MattyB3]

Arya… I agree 100%, I’ve always had some sort of issue using this plug-in. Great fine on the Reverb.

[@IDDQDSound]

Thanks! It was totally by accident :)

[@delineater]

Hear! Hear! You hit everything I think about LABS. If the UI were reasonable, I'd use it way more; the sounds are truly amazing. But as it is... I usually move on in frustration after awhile.

[@IDDQDSound]

Agreed!! A part of me thought they'd fix it at some point but still no :(

[@sub-jec-tiv]

So true. And very funny! Subbed. Always hated Spitfire’s UI choices. It has that “made in London by people with fancy friends” design vibe. It’s a detail indicative of an attitude that results in bad design choices like this. Caring more about looking cool than being helpful. Looks great the first time you launch it, and then you try and get work done quickly and it’s like “will you stop being fancy and be useful?” IMO that extends to the pricing of their products. Labs is great, but i’m a composer who doesn’t work for big corporations, and even on sale i’ve never been able to afford most of their libraries. Would it kill them to do a Black Friday price affordable to non-corporate musicians or people who live in countries where everything is more expensive? Also, just a note… Installing plugins you used to have to do all that sign-in garbage for every plugin you installed, not just once for each company. Also you used to have to leave a useless piece of plastic sitting in one of your USB ports to use your software, permanently reducing your computer’s capability to connect to instruments, external drives and audio interfaces. For a while i had a Logic dongle *and* an iLok dongle. That’s two USB ports burnt… and they wonder why piracy became normalized? Maybe i’m just old but frankly i love using installers for installation & validation. Because i can pop in, install all my Softube stuff (for example), and pop out, boom done.

[@sub-jec-tiv]

Maybe they make Labs hard to use because usability is a privelege reserved for the rich who can afford their product plugins?

[@IDDQDSound]

Thanks for the sub and the comment! Don't even get me started on Dongles (or really anyone doing production) Also yeah totally agreed. It's weird that companies think creating an installer app is somehow more convenient than just downloading an installer and installing it! But I guess it's not really for convenience but an anti-piracy measure that pirates know very well how to get around (I hear)

[@tonynekrews]

100% agreed here. I removed them all from my system a while back after the constant frustration with patch navigation. Ah yes, uninstalling. Not straightforward either

[@IDDQDSound]

Hahaaa trueeee! Making uninstalls hard is also a way I know I shouldn't have installed something to begin with :)

[@ryankennett4695]

Thank you! I thought I was just old and didn't understand a cool original ui.

[@IDDQDSound]

I feel like they read that one book that says white space isn't negative space, but it doesn't work here cuz you can't resize plugins the way you do websites :)

[@JeserNoob]

Everything you said is the reason why I have preferred to use a sub par sounds as opposed to the great sounding patches heard in Labs. It’s too clunky, not sure what it wants to do, be minimalistic or customizable and takes an eternity to understand how to get the sound to work or the libraries to download and sync that by the end of the hour I wasted I no longer am feeling creative and am completely drained of the original idea altogether. Avoid Spitfire Audio labs until the fix their massive errors!! But also thank you for the free great sounds that I will not use because I simply can’t be bothered to set it up in an entire afternoon.

[@andreifilip]

I love LABS, as much as you do, and also started using it when their offer had no more than 6 or 7 libraries available, but never thought of it like this...and yeah, I love this video! Cheers

[@IDDQDSound]

Thanks so much! :)

[@vexphoto]

Yeah. That’s all a huge turn off. A few plugs companies are taking the user for granted, by not paying close attention to their UX. Yes, these are free, but the paid stuff is as bad, sometimes worse on how they approach installs and updates... etc... anyway, you’re freakin hilarious! BTW, I’ll be sure to go to their “support “ page and send them a link to your video. Please keep up the great work, I’m sure I’m not the only one who really appreciates your videos. Thank you!

[@IDDQDSound]

Thank you so much for the kind words! And yeah I'd love to hear their response to my video. I posted on their forums but they never responded :)

[@elderozone]

Omg I lost it at "is this a butthole!?". This video is your best yet!

[@IDDQDSound]

Thank you so much!

[@DomMcsweeney-DoomPlugs]

This is so so so wholesome, keep up on this series, it's amazing dude.

[@IDDQDSound]

Thanks! If you have ideas for other plugins to roast lmk.

[@namoviot]

This is a great video!! i hope spitfire sees this

[@IDDQDSound]

Thanks! I hope so too!

[@Silvabaral]

I was convinced that I was a Dumb. Until now

[@gesslr]

Well done and hilarious to boot. Bravo.

[@IDDQDSound]

Thanks a lot

[@MusicByIanLtd]

Totally agree. Great video I have all the labs stuff. But I don't use it as much as I did a year ago because the additional products have just made it less fun to use. Eg it's quicker to fire up one of my other vsts such as falcon and search for what I want than scroll in labs. And then when it came to buying the paid orchestra product having used bbsco, and liked the sounds, my user experience with labs put me off. The opposite of what you'd imagine they're trying to achieve. Maybe if you have the circular controller they all seem to have etc it works for you. Ie you're a pro. But surely they look at the competition such as East West (which I ended up subbing to) and see how simple a UI can be for a home hobbiest. But also fulfill the needs of the pros. I only recommend Labs for BBCSO now.

[@IDDQDSound]

BBCSO's interface is pretty awesome! It teaches you about orchestral make up and placement, and the space doesn't feel so wasted, even though it's bigger than LABS.

[@lithiumsapphire8935]

Hi. I know i am posting this to wrong video but can you make a video about how to route the sound of the computer into reaper and monitor it from there? I sometimes want to change the sound of the pc with plugins in reaper but I couldn't route the sound into/out from it. Thank you.

[@IDDQDSound]

hi!!! Sure thing! PC or Mac?

[@lithiumsapphire8935]

@@IDDQDSound I use PC, thanks!

[@Kiloeve]

Will you be making a future one on SINEfactory?

[@IDDQDSound]

Never used it, but if you think it's hilarious I'll take a crack?

[@Kiloeve]

@@IDDQDSound Up to you. Just feeding an idea, if it comes to it. Definifely enjoyed the video though, especially because you went the extra mile and weren't biased.

[@markoburrows]

Thank you, thank you, thank you..... I laughed and laughed and laughed.... this is such a good and thoughtfully put together video. well done sir!

[@IDDQDSound]

Thank you for the kind words :)

[@JimhawthorneNet]

Thank you for making this video! I love the sounds they are giving us for free, but I'm rolling my eyes every time I use it. I had always assumed that the Paid versions would be much better with these issues, like they made it annoying on purpose to drive you to the Paid ones, but it doesn't look much better. Anyway, I guess beggars can't be choosers, and thanks to Spitfire for giving us something we can all use for free!

[@IDDQDSound]

Agreed. I want to buy one of the libraries just to make sure!

[@DarkSideofSynth]

@@IDDQDSound Except the Kontakt libraries, their other libraries now all look like LABS. 2 faders, the big mysterious knob, wasted blank space on both sides, same navigation dropdown menu... 🙃

[@Atezian]

Ive been using this for maybe 2 years and i dodnt know you can click on the middle of the circle slider. Wtf

[@IDDQDSound]

At least that bit has a bit of indentation but yeah I don't blame ya :)

[@AtelierMarsViolet]

Epic rant. Even worse than the inscrutable UI is the way the software randomly self-destructs and stops working forcing a complete reset/reinstall/re-download which only works some of the time and eats through one's arbitrarily-allotted resets which need to be reset remotely by Spitfire. I have one library - Abbey Road One - which I have never gotten to work despite numerous resets and tantrums. I gave up on it. Never even got to use it.

[@IDDQDSound]

Wow that's horrible. I haven't had experience with the self destructing (yet!) But you're not the first one whom I've heard this happen to! Really horrible about AR1 too. They should refund you or give you some serious hands on support

[@AtelierMarsViolet]

@@IDDQDSound My understanding is that they're working on replacing the software with something which works better, so I'm hoping that my patience pays off eventually.

[@wecology]

Me too, LABS saved me from actually buying any Spitfire libraries!

[@IDDQDSound]

My hidden agenda is that they will see this video and give me a paid library to review for free :P

[@wecology]

​@@IDDQDSound Never. Henson will give you a LABS instrument to review for free, and then want profuse adulation :o

[@fredscallietsoundman9701]

This is my favorite kind of rant !

[@roadsixsix66]

Your are GREAT and so HILARIOUS , You made my day MATE

[@IDDQDSound]

Thank you! You're very kind :)

[@Hocus_Tokus]

Thank you Arya for this good (and funny) video ! (by the way I didn't know you were a D&D guy !) 😊

[@IDDQDSound]

Thanks! Yeah love D&D! Before covid I use to dungeon master using reaper, maybe I should make a tutorial!

[@Hocus_Tokus]

@@IDDQDSound Great idea ! My DM uses musics & sounds for years but in oldschool analog style (small desk & mp3 players). I think (as always) Reaper's flexibility makes it a convenient tool to this use !

[@philipdubnick7776]

Agree 100% on indecipherable icons. I’ve been doing a bit more work in Cubase recently and that has long been one of my least favorite aspects of it - so many of the icons make no logical sense. To make things worse, the way they color code bypass and active status, makes zero sense and is super confusing. Can’t we just standardize green as active, red as bypassed and no color as removed? Drives me nuts.

[@IDDQDSound]

Agreed. I thought we had kinda agreed on those colours, but sometimes devs seem to overthink the simplest things!

[@honeyhillbeats]

masterpiece video 😂 have you send it to Spitfire? I think they should see it

[@IDDQDSound]

Thanks! I posted this on their forums and they removed it and banned me :)

[@JakobGille2]

This explains why I really like the library and recommending it all the time despite never using it myself... Time to build a rack with macros in Bitwig for it!

[@IDDQDSound]

Yeah I've also been saving my favourites as FX chains, but really it's a burn on them that you have to use your DAW to make them usable!

[@LuizaCarvalho-do6hh]

I feel avenged by this video.

[@djazz0]

Oh yes! And it’s even buggier on Linux when installing instruments. Sometimes the plugin corrupts the install and I have to reinstall the instruments.

[@IDDQDSound]

Oh wowww! Didn't know that. The forum is full of linux bug reports!

[@voiceovervandeen]

@@IDDQDSound yep quite a few were mine, but they told me "Linux isn't supported" 😟 so I gave up on Labs under linux last time it broke, but my BBCSO Discover still continues to work fine.😨

[@DarkSideofSynth]

You mean via Wine? There is no Linux native support. Usually, all Win plugins that require a specific download/library manager give hell on Linux trough Wine, unlike most single dll plugins.

[@voiceovervandeen]

@@DarkSideofSynth yep, via Wine. BBC SO discover has remained stable & working since its first install. Labs however required "fixing" so often that I just gave up on it.

[@DarkSideofSynth]

@@voiceovervandeen After 5/6 years of ups and downs with Wine, etc.(not just for music) a few months ago, I decided to keep it away from my system. I've got a VM, disconnected from the net, with a version frozen version of what I need (not music-related), and I dual boot when needed. Things can already get broken inside Win, no need for an extra layer of potential screw-ups ;)

[@LorenFagen]

I have their "British Drama Toolkit", which runs in Kontakt and sounds really good...but some of the same irritating factors like wasted space and microscopic, obscure icons in the UI...

[@IDDQDSound]

Sound wise just 10/10 always with SA

[@dykodesigns]

Looking at the UI, it seems that the developers don’t care much about user efficiency. It’s like it’s made to be not very ergonomical on purpose. I agree, the design is very wasteful with screen space. I remember displays with 800x600 or 1024x768 screen resolutions. Back then most software would use the screen real estate efficiency.

[@IDDQDSound]

agreed! I mean even nowadays I feel like most people don't have much bigger than 1920x1080, and even for those who do, screen real estate still matters a lot!

[@luiza177music]

I feel avenged by this video. Especially considering I stopped using their Kontakt libraries way back when, even though they sound amazing, because their patch organization was a total fucking mess. I'm sure they improved a lot when they turned Sable and Mural into self-contained libraries, instead of the partial expansions, but damn.

[@IDDQDSound]

Yeah they make good sounds, just need to make them more usable :)

[@kennygioia7184]

LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS!!!!!

[@IDDQDSound]

Thanks Kenny! Didn't know you got this other account! :)

[@ArielTavori]

Nailed it. Great sounds, locked up in a drunken puzzle box for some bizarre reason... 🤦🏽

[@IDDQDSound]

A drunken puzzle box loll

[@vincecomposer]

This video is even more hilarious on double speed 😂 definitely feels like a case of style over substance with a bit of general disorganisation mixed in. Grrrr. But like you say at the start, great product, would recommend 😇

[@IDDQDSound]

Hahaa what made you watch in 2x speed? That sounds like a headache :)

[@davidsprivate5609]

More laughs in this video than I've had in a long time. Unfortunately this will probably mean another shedload of downloading (yes, I got a new hard drive too).

[@IDDQDSound]

Oooh good luck. The library moving is crazy!

[@jeremydbjbjbjb]

Lol. Everyone likes a rant! I always assumed that the crazy download thing is there to add friction so that they save on bandwidth for hosting GB of free stuff, but maybe it's just an oversight. I love LABS, and everything you've said is true.

[@IDDQDSound]

Hmmm interesting, maybe saving bandwidth was an issue, they could still let us download all and then pause some though :)

[@bluesky2145]

Great video. Now time to do one on reaper and how lame that interface is. I would love for them to take a 1-year break to retool the whole interface with no new features

[@NickHope]

A quality rant. I had imposter syndrome over this stuff and now I realise it's actually just crap. Thank you (p.s. I found you via the Reaper Blog Music Theory Helpers video).

[@IDDQDSound]

Heyy welcome aboard :) glad you liked this

[@thomasnikzakrzewski4477]

Great critique! As painful as it was to watch and be reminded of the horrible UX, I kept watching. Nice job!

[@IDDQDSound]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@victorsantafeatta]

5:47 A hidden deal with Google, lololololololol, I agree 100% with you, Even though it's free it kinda seems they went out of their way to make your life miserable, no wonder I love most of the sounds but haven't used them in years.

[@IDDQDSound]

"Should we let them adjust the attack?" "No just for paid libraries!" "What if we gave them the option, but hide it? "You're now promoted to head designer!"

[@czdot]

Damn, I have actually learned something new about LABS. I sincerely had no idea about the reverb. Huh. What a stupid UI. I mean, I knew that already, but this is even sillier than I'd thought.

[@IDDQDSound]

Glad I'm the only one who didn't know about the reverb.

[@InXLsisDeo]

Basically, the design company they work with is completely clueless. I was similarly confused with the UI of LABS.

[@IDDQDSound]

It almost feels like one of the audio people just did the design lol :D

[@BamBamTheInfluence]

Well said.. ditto

[@klipnity]

Im going to try to make KONTAKT libraries from the LABS because i really don't like LABS at all.

[@IDDQDSound]

Yeah for some of their libraries they have kontakt patches but not for LABS, which is also weird!

[@DarkSideofSynth]

Well, since this video is about UI/UX, do we REALLY want to ignore Kontakt's own usability issues? ;) LABS does waste space but Kontakt is still unscalable, and makes your eyes bleed 🤬

[@IDDQDSound]

@@DarkSideofSynth agreed about the resizing and UI, maybe another video topic haha

[@DarkSideofSynth]

@@IDDQDSound A good way to be the target of hitmen hired by software houses hahaha 🤣 How many devs can I piss off before I get a laser red do on my forehead? 😎

[@jeranx1]

1000 %. I quit using Labs instruments. They were gone every 2 months.

[@IDDQDSound]

Gone like from your system?

[@franciscoaragao5398]

Do you know what turns a castle into a palace? This video answers: no.

[@IDDQDSound]

??

[@BLUEWATERTOO]

Hahahah....Couldn't agree with you more... LABS is really great,but the UI sucks! Thanks for making this vid fun!!!

[@IDDQDSound]

Hanks for watching :)

[@davelindomusic2207]

Boom roasted! But I agree LABS is great. Just gotta change a few things.

[@IDDQDSound]

Yeah at its core LABS is incredible!

[@viruscerbero]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJyleGyGipiegsU "This a symbol for farts!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@aural_escape]

@7:00 aturia dropped the ball as well with there augmented strings and voices plugins with exactly the same idea ...... wasted space :-P

[@IDDQDSound]

Totally! Arturia GUIs are sometimes just laughably big! They think if they make it big it will somehow be immersive, but it just looks cluttered with not much extra benefits. If I'm playing I'm looking at my keyboard and so it doesn't matter what it looks like and when you want to mix or adjust the tone it's just a pain!

[@JanSandahl]

I gave up on LABS. I'm not putting up with it no matter how great the libraries are. Then, add another plugin/environment that's equally bad and you ready to die rather than feel like making music. :) I hope they clean all this up. Thanks for taking the time.

[@IDDQDSound]

My pleasure! I hope they see these comments and get motivated to do something :)

[@macboogieland2897]

hey, it's free man, how dare you complain lmao jk of course, you are absolutely right about this! i prefer old extremely outdated to this

[@IDDQDSound]

Lol :)

[@acc4481]

Somebody please send this to Spitfire 😂

[@IDDQDSound]

Someone recommended a place I may find Christian from Spitfire Audio. Fingers crossed!

[@acc4481]

Hunt the feller down! We're rootin' for ya @IDDQD Sound

[@RothmanHarv]

Yup, this is why I can't be bothered even downloading. So sick of apps. Couldn't these all just be .SFZ instruments? That'd solve these UI problems too by leaving it to the user. Actually no, this is letting potential customers know what to expect more of if they buy any of their virtual instruments, so they can quit while they're ahead.

[@IDDQDSound]

I think they are trying to be a one-piece solution so people wouldn't need extra downloads, but yeah the .sfz option would be nice. I guess pirating is the concern they may have?

[@RothmanHarv]

@@IDDQDSound True, for their paid instruments. Although for free instruments, all the hoop-jumping as if its a paid product seems unnecessary (from the musicians' perspective). Really enjoyed the video!

[@Crowbar11115]

Spitfire plugins are the only ones that have crashed Reaper and FL Studio on a regualr basis. I haven't been able to rely on them at all

[@IDDQDSound]

Oh that's unfortunate. I've never had them crash, but still it's a nightmare

[@TheBlissMagnets]

This is hilarious

[@IDDQDSound]

Lol thanks :)

[@grandprizebigfuzz-musicart2594]

Truly horrible design. Great vid!

[@IDDQDSound]

Thank you :)

[@ToniDelgadoAbellan]

great idea, meh sound and interface

[@toitoitoy]

Spitfire labs interface is redicules)

[@bodanerius]

Hahahaaa. I literally deleted all my LABS stuff because of the UI. Drove me nuts. I do like the thumbnails design though, but like youre saying. It doesnt align with the rest of their design language and that design serves no real purpose. And dont get me started on...

[@IDDQDSound]

I don't hate the thumbnail design, it's just sooooo weird! Like they have a random Iranian poem on one of them, but it's not the Dulcimer which is an Iranian instrument, but another random instrument :)

[@bodanerius]

@@IDDQDSound Very true...

[@satyabratasatapathy6615]

Looks the dumb KZbin recommended ur nice video

[@IDDQDSound]

Thanks Dumb KZbin :D