How to install a stair handrail and railing on stairs uk

[@antonynewitt6708]

Good effort all I would say is when measuring up make sure you do it from the same part of the step at the top and bottom. Always measure from the nose of the tread. Your rail would get lower as you got up the stairs as you took that measurement from the back of the tread

[@simonc5685]

Thank you so much for this. For some reason most of the videos on fixing handrails are all against studded walls and not into brick so this is extremely helpful and conforting for me

[@3foria420]

glad ive watched this video before having a go at fitting my own stair rail , never knew about the building regs , previous so called joiner made a right mess fitting stair rail that doesnt even meet the regs , thanks for info

[@ignasram]

After 6 years that you posted the video somebody is using this handy information. Thank you 👍🏼

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

Glad it was helpful!

[@BopshotBully]

Me too ✋️thanks

[@rogerwoodcock7523]

Why do you need a chalk line, all you need is to get the heights of top bracket and bottom bracket. Fix these and the internal brackets can be fitted no hassle. This guys making hard work of a pretty straightforward job.

[@matthackett4604]

Yeah…. And you need to redecorate the wall now!🤣 measure top and bottom bracket, pull a line and mark middle brackets…..🤦🏻‍♂️

[@nemnemz12]

Agreed.

[@paintedak]

It won’t be dead straight it will dip/bow in the middle. Chalk line is wise

[@davidtaylor111]

​@@paintedakonly if you don't measure correctly otherwise it should be dead on every single time

[@Jawst]

16:09

[@amandahunter4034]

Thank you. I've watched your video before installing a metal stair handrail on my stairs, and I feel a lot more confident about doing it now. I like your recommendations for the most useful tools too.

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

Great to hear!

[@markc443]

That's my job for today and this video has helped immensely. Cheers Dan

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

Thanks!

[@gailpengelly8581]

Well Daniel, you as you stated it may not be the “correct” way (naysayers can bugger off)...I was sat on the stairs earlier with multiple holes in the wall, my head in my hands sobbing!! Until I saw this video. All I can say is THANK YOU sir...THANK YOU . It’s up and we can now get down the stairs...without pain. ❤️🔨🧰❤️

[@eddieclitheroe4827]

Great thank you, have to fit a rail for a oap relatve been putting it off , will get it done now , thanks again

[@jon.t.lillster6497]

He’s into it. Maybe more than most but you know your handrail is the nuts with this guy

[@mistermister8]

Thanks for taking the time to make this. Really appreciated.

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

no problem, nice it helped

[@rubymcrae1]

I'm installing a handrail so thanks. That was the cutest lesson ever.

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

Wonderful!

[@FoolishWizardMedia]

Im not afraid of a bit of DIY but i was a bit wary of doing this for my grandfather. Thank you so much for this massive help!!

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

No worries, glad it helped your job.

[@paulmeynell8866]

Brilliant video thank you. KZbin is the best learning tool ever .

[@lapinchiloca]

The video has been great in terms of having it done. The comments section has been great in terms of measurement correctness and regulations. Together it makes a great resource.

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

Thanks

[@boofuls]

Very good video , perhaps a pipe/stud/electrical wire detector should be used before drilling

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

yes

[@grantbassett2048]

Hi Dan, well youve taken the fear away of giveing it a go. Cheers just what i wanted to see!!! Cheers and keep well. Grant ; )

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

Thanks for your nice comment.

[@kellywarriner4404]

Did they use rawl plugs in the screw holes?

[@darrenmackenzie1892]

What if you have a timber wall with only restricted studs for fixings and 1 bracket doesn't line up with the next stud any ideas?

[@DIMTips]

Great video. I installed my handrail recently too.

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

Nice 👍

[@rokketron]

I will be using countersunk rawl bolts.

[@jahbulonjaja191]

Hi-Did you mean Multi-material 6m bit from screwfix?

[@mattyharkin5787]

Got a rail to reinstall but have the kit now - I will let you know in a few days! Great instructional video.

[@paulattree4171]

how did it go. doing one today

[@mattyharkin5787]

@@paulattree4171 It went really well as the wall was stone. I almost did it on my own but my lad 23 wanted to have a go, so her got to do the last few pieces bud!

[@bazzaw78]

Good job with the chalk line, only thing i will say, is your pipes at the bottom of the stairs that is a finger trap. Ideally you would cut the rail to suit the gap all the way down the stair, but a good video for guys not knowing how to do it👍🏻

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

we didn't do the plumbing and nobody ever caught their fingers in six years.

[@formicapple2]

Many thanks. Feel confident now to get this job done. Instructions from the management, the Mrs.

[@andrewlee6152]

You DO NOT measure the height of the handrail , from the going of the step, you measure it from the PITCH line.. The Pitch line, is the same line as the Stair String.. if you measure from the surface of the step (the wood), the height you mark, will vary, depending on where on that step, you measure from. Just draw a section of a set of steps, stairs, now draw a line, from the nosing of each step, to the next.. That's the pitch line. Now draw a line up from the going of the step at the bottom, up 900mm and now to the same from another random position on the going of the top step,, draw a line between the two.. now unless you went from the same exact position on each step and each step is exactly the same dimensions as al the others, your line will not be the same pitch as the pitch line you drew earlier Basically measure from the floor, to the top of the stair string, which has the PITCH of the stairs, measure how far that mark is from the top of the stair string. DEDUCT that from the height you want...and now measure from the bottom of the stair string, up to the bas of you lowest brackets first hole.. Then measure that same height from the top end of the stair string, where it is still at the pitch of the stairs. You now have a pitch line, that is the correct pitch NOTES 1) That fact that you mention the building regulations, is a good thing and very important, but the fact that you obviously didn't read them fully, means you need to redo this video or at least, add a correction to the end, explaining how you measure the height of the handrail correctly. Read 1.34 on www.specifiedby.com/building-regulations/approved-document-k-protection-falling-collision-impact 2) I also am not a professional and I do very little DIY myself. I am an architectural 3D visual artist. I model interiors and exteriors of many types of buildings and as a part of that, building regulations are a very important part of getting things right, especially when it comes to things like stair cases, something I have had to model, more times than I care to mention

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

thanks for your detailed comment and the time you took to write it all, I'll look into this and add something to the video

[@alexdeville1248]

Andrew is correct. In Daniel's video the height of the handrail would be less than 900mm and would not meet Building Regulations.

[@JohnnyMotel99]

So to arrive at the pitch line, measuring from the very front edge of a step would give the right height, give or take a few mm?

[@aftabsaddique9867]

Not bad video for a beginner 👍

[@paulmeynell8866]

What length screws did you use to hold the rail onto the wall?

[@MJC868]

You are off at the top because you measured the height from the back of the tread and not the nose.

[@howardlawton4728]

you are exactly right matthew

[@darrenmackenzie1892]

Can the chalk be easily wiped away or does the wall need re painted?

[@peepiepo]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I've been trying to work out how to do this, I think I'll do it similar to you

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

no problem, hope it works out

[@ka5269]

whats the best way to fix a loose handrail, where the holes have become too big for the screws?

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

Few options: 1.Try putting some dowel (diy store) into the hole, then some gripfill around the piece of dowel and let it set solid 2. you could try deeper screws or 3. a piece of timber running the entire length behind then fix the rail to that.

[@sylviamolyneux-carr214]

I love this Rail were did you purchase it from thanks in advance

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

you can get them from builders merchants or large hardware stores.

[@yanninghua5795]

Thank you very much for showing this. I think I will be copying this exactly!

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

Go for it!

[@justintemp]

Got a bit confused with the measurements. You say bannister is 4cm and bracket 8cm which means 12cm, but when you measure the bottom step you say 78cm which makes sense for 90cm But you say 85cm + 4 which is 87cm...? Which is confusing...

[@chrislc35]

watching this as im about to do mine. however, i have a rail on the other side with spindles, which is 80cm high. so do i just match that? as if i do it 90cm, it will look odd. its just for my house.

[@michaelwerritt3813]

It would be easier in mm and is it a Philips or posi screwdriver

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

depends on the screws being used.

[@hmbelayet]

Nicely explained 👍🏼

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

Thank you 🙂

[@MMG_MoonManGuitar]

Great tips. Will attempt this in a few weeks mate. Thanks again! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

No problem 👍

[@TheMackcasper]

How many mm is the drill bit?

[@seccat]

Shouldn’t he measure the height from the NOSE of the thread? @4:13

[@sinatra617]

I have one of these rails in my house and the screws arennolonder securing the rail cz the wall is crumbling. What would I use to fix it? Spackle?

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

bigger raw plugs, move the supports or pump a load of gripfill into the holes rettach and let it set a few options.

[@rael1999]

Thanks for this Dan much appreciated. One thing when you took the first measurement you said the bannister width was 4cm and the bracket 8cm. But when you measure at the top of the stairs you mark at 87cm but then when you add the bracket you get 90cm which suggests the bracket is 3cm, or am I missing something ?

[@matteocantatore8901]

I have moved into the new house and all the banister screws are loose and the banister is coming off the wall. There are as well some extra holes so I suspect this had happened before and this was a second attempt. I am just worried that I will do it and end up with the same problem again. Do I need to use a stud finder or it doesn't really matter where you put the screws?

[@stevefoley4073]

Easy. Re-drill the holes so you have a nice clean hole, new plugs that are just big enough to need tapping home, and the right size screws. If it's a stud wall, use special plugs designed for stud walls. If none of this works, 'cos the existing holes are so crumbly with the movement that they're no good, start the installation as if it's the first one, just shift the installation a few cm down or up, whichever you prefer, so you're not drilling too close to the old holes. The disadvantage of this option is the need to fill the old holes and repaint the wall(s). If it were me, I'd do this option straight off anyway - better job.

[@chrisrobinson7728]

I noticed that you measured wrong at the top of the stairs, you should be measuring from the pitch (where the bull nose of the tread is) but you measured at the back of the tread, which would make you a whole step height too low!

[@UrbFoxFact]

very helpful.....apart from making me feel seasick. sack the cameraman 🤣

[@TheReactionaryView]

Good afternoon sir, I was wondering how far are you from Ipswich? My aunt ex husband has left her home in shambles I did not know if it would be possible if you could help her build a banister. I live in the United States in Texas and have been trying to contact different places in the UK to help her get her home back in order. You do such an amazing work and I didn't know if you would be able to help her at all.

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

have you tried a local builder in her area?

[@TheReactionaryView]

Daniel no sir. As I don't live there.

[@ranat5526]

@@TheReactionaryView You look like a Nigerian Scammer , just like those Indian call centre's!

[@TheReactionaryView]

@@ranat5526 number one am not Nigerian number to I'm not a scammer. You can Google me. FYI I was born in Ipswich England I live in Texas. You can also call the Cambria Hotel in Richardson Texas and ask for me because I'm the assistant general manager here. I have no time to scan anybody in that is not my deal I was trying to help my aunt out who lives in Ipswich. Thanks.

[@ianpotts4935]

Daniel.:where did you purchase handrail please. just want plain handrail (like the one you used), so many now have moulding on them. thanks ian

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

It came with the property so no idea, perhaps they got it from a builders merchant or local hardware store?

[@chriswright191]

How do you know what size screws to use?

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

4-5mm head, 50mm+ long

[@francescosicilia8075]

👍great thanks

[@russelldownesdownes5618]

Do you have the same job where you have a studded wall and need to find the studs thanks

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

this is the only video we made about this sorry.

[@jamesf8651]

You could use hollow wall anchors and setting tool there very good

[@spencercarver1852]

But how do you do it in USA

[@paulb8340]

Do the same process but ensure you are IN the USA .. !!

[@paulb8340]

at least theres no chance of scalding yur hand when you get to the bottom of the stairs!! OMG

[@stevemarshall2728]

Thanks

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

No problem

[@rokketron]

Bare pipes running down the wall would drive me up the wall.

[@MidsBlue]

Good video but at 3:15 85+12=97 not 87

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

Quick maths

[@wellifthemediasaysit]

Anyone know how to add a bannister to drywall?

[@spiritialwarrior5718]

Thanks I was looking to fit a handrail myself but was not sure about the height. I just have one question where does the handrail finish. Is it level with the top tread and level with the bottom tread or does it further down and up?

[@jamesf8651]

Good job, few people here commenting on how it shud be dont see there videos doh😒

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

pretty much

[@ducaschoenberg7156]

Mine works too. I used the Stodoys plans and performed it without any problems.

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

fantastic

[@ericmoody3944]

Mr. Partridge?

[@ducaschoenberg7156]

@@DanielJohnHowTo Awesome Daniel. I'm glad you love it ❤️💝

[@michaelmccabebigjock251]

This guy put me away for an early night

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

zzzzz

[@leey7h]

try doing this on a plasterboard wall

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

then you would put some board behind with plenty of fixings distributed along with gripfill etc.

[@davidlewis7516]

Crikey, that's a long winded way.

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

there's a lot of points and information to get across.

[@allandocater6296]

I did it too. This is what I used Woodglut designs for

[@shantelguetgen4157]

Stodoys plans has a very large project base.

[@riddles1137]

OMG I'm crying, how to make a 5 minute video last 19:25 😂😂

[@mariaalvarez-kr5pk]

OMG in español plis Soy española

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

no idea

[@paultomasi4619]

Totally wrong approach to fitting a handrail. The word 'cowboys' springs to mind. Please don't make anymore videos.

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

Sorry too late, lots more videos to come and I'll make sure we wear hats.

[@jamesf8651]

Everybody does things differently paul

[@JohnnyMotel99]

Namely measuring off the pitch line to begin with!

[@keithlane1000]

Not measuring up form the ""pitch-line"" at the nose of the treads, so your angle is a long way off - crap video. And who would use info from anyone who has plumbing pipes on the surface - very amateur.

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

We didn't put the piping in, in the UK plumbing for central heating is often on the walls it's how it is.

[@timdaly8057]

Are you having a laugh? The most difficult part of this job is finding the studs and you didn’t even mention the word STUD

[@DanielJohnHowTo]

there are no studs it's a plaster wall