Thor: Love and Thunder Gets WORSE The More Taika Waititi Talks About It

Thor: Love and Thunder is the latest Marvel MCU movie released at cinemas, and the cast are on a press interview tour. With Taiki Waititi, Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson all giving interviews, what are the impacts? Does Thor: Love and Thunder movie benefit from the extra context Taika Waititi is giving to the movie and his decisions while making the latest marvel cinematic universe film?
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[@disparutoo]

What did you think of Thor: Love and Thunder, how does it stack up against the other Thor movies? Did you agree with the comments of Taika Waititi and the cast? Let me know your thoughts below, and as always, thanks for watching :)

[@nikxross1641]

in cinema terms, He thinks he is Ed Wood but we see Tommy Wiseau

[@fifi-trixibell1818]

I think I will not watch it 😂

[@james3876]

Didn't watch it. Costs money to see it and the trailers told me its hero wasn't one I wanted to hang out with for two hours.

[@kadourimdou43]

Not going to watch it. If I do it will be without paying for it.

[@crawlingboy]

have not seen it and refuse to see it cause after the open bar and the amount of light being shared it sounds awful and has no action

[@benc77]

Thor in infinity war was the best, he was badass while still cracking jokes

[@michaelone9475]

Kinda love the Russos for that but then hate them at the same time for making him nothing but a joke in Endgame “He was going through trauma, grief, he was depressed” No that was just poor attempt at comedy and a poor excuse

[@benc77]

@@michaelone9475 agreed, he should of been training harder because of his regret

[@daneg]

@@michaelone9475 they had to do that. they already established during Infinity War that Thor with Stormbreaker was more powerful than Thanos. In fact, he could've killed Thanos is less than a minute. Thanos in End Game doesn't have the Infinity Gauntlet and, therefore, is an easy kill for Thor. Basically, Thor's too OP. It's a problem for every Avengers plot. It's like having Superman teamup with Batman or Flash or whatever. Thor and Superman need cosmic level opponents. /2cents edit: they didn't have to make him Lebowski, but they had to explain his obvious weakness in End Game.

[@jlit5215]

@@michaelone9475 I enjoyed fat Thor but yeah it could’ve been utilized better. He has some very heartfelt scenes but others…yeah

[@BC08]

@@michaelone9475 Infinity War was a masterpiece - Endgame was a disappointment. Not just because of Thor either

[@robertluna5737]

So essentially Thor: Love and Thunder is just a testament to Taika Waititi’s ego. Gotcha.

[@derek96720]

Pretty much everything he makes seems to be.

[@vichukuttan9625]

@@derek96720 he provoked fans in 2019 and he told them he gonna ruin mythos

[@darianstarfrog]

As a fellow kiwi..it's embarrassing.. he lost his mind.. literally acting like pretentious twat! His quotes are cringe af.. "haha! Fuck you, I'm gunna shit on your character ! I dibt even read the comics.. Idc! This is MY movie.. " dude! Wtf!?

[@funkrobot9762]

Of course it is.

[@haidenhill6358]

I hate that creep

[@pizzawashere8940]

That shit about Chris not wanting to do the shirtless scene but was told “let’s do it anyways and see how it goes” hurts man. Too many women have gone through the same thing in the industry. It goes both ways, no gender should do anything they’re uncomfortable with

[@kamikazehound3243]

You sure it's the shirtless part because if his bare bum was shown it means he likely had to do the nude technique where you put you pen in a sock.

[@thesnailtale8490]

I agree totally

[@rumbling3991]

well , he signed the contract

[@evanelzinga282]

@@rumbling3991 sorry I have to ask is this a joke. If it is sorry I didn’t get it

[@TheCanderemy]

@@reyes8143 maybe because men are always told to "man up and deal with it" when they do say something about it. Its been so normalized that men speaking up is them being "sissies" or "not real men", kinda like how its expected for women to be emotional, but men are not allowed to cry. And being sexualized means "you're a macho man and good looking right? You get all the ladies! Its a good thing!" 🤡

[@DeclanCorey]

God, that bit with Chris talking about how he didn't want to do a shirtless scene and Taika talking about how he made him do it anyways and even mocking him was heartbreaking to see. Jesus christ.

[@hi_-fc7fo]

@teen_x_penis_muncher Why does this have to be brought up? We know it's been happening to women too, it's awful, but in this case it's happening to a man, that's the focus of the original comment. It's genuinely annoying to me how Taiki talked and mocked about it, it's very gross to me. Would be no matter the gender.

[@weonvirtual]

@teen_x_penis_muncher but then why keep that trending though?? if actors and actresses are getting manipulated by the industry forcing them into situations they don't want to get themselves in, why should we let that still happen? it did happen before sadly, but this theme shouldn't be considered in these times with the knowledge we have on the present

[@DantesInferno96]

@teen_x_penis_muncher Name one scene in MCU with naked female superhero.

[@cybercriminal3110]

@teen_x_penis_muncher And? How does it change anything? Do you only deserve sympathy if you're the first person it ever happened to?

[@hellothere69.]

@teen_x_penis_muncher What I don't understand is why is it necessary to always say "oh this group of ppl face the same issue as well" whenever someone says "OMG what happened to this person is terrible"? Like yeah women facing this issue is terrible, but nowhere did OP deny it.

[@DivineFalcon]

So Taika intentionally made a film people wouldn't like, and now he's pissed people didn't like it? Just how detached from reality is he?

[@vichukuttan9625]

Mf taika fuckiti🖕

[@thebatman4279]

Subverting expectations and then viciously attacking the fans? He's really been infected with the Disney bug!

[@darianstarfrog]

Yup.. shows how much he's now in balls deep with the hollyweird agenda nowadays! A shame on our great country!

[@Cygnus75]

@@thebatman4279 Exactly. And we all know those Disney people are deranged as well.

[@haroldb1856]

He is overjoyed that people didn't like it.

[@dixons57]

Imagine pressuring a actress to gratuitously take her clothes off, claiming it's "what people want to see, let's just film it and see what happens". Imagine the response it would get.

[@tinkthestrange]

I mean, they’ve been doing that for decades so...

[@stefanlaskowski6660]

Ever seen "Life Force"?

[@mrjayz94]

@@tinkthestrange True, but doesn’t make it right to just flip it. We should aspire for equal treatment, not “revenge”.

[@hello-wl7pk]

it DOES happen. on literally every set. nobody says anything until a man is put in that position. now all of a sudden it’s unethical.

[@Papa_Straight]

@@hello-wl7pk tf you talking about? Americans talk about that shit for like years to come. And when a man is in there "meh"

[@finnmaguire9182]

Phase 1: Build the MCU Phase 2: Develop the Characters Phase 3: Bring a Great franchise to a close Phase 4: Destroy the franchise

[@aidarjapykeev4544]

Never could have said better

[@bengilhooly3616]

Hopefully Phase 5: Pick up the pieces and put it back together

[@mythrandir8118]

​@@bengilhooly3616 more like "we're sorry, we have did our best"

[@arks_knights]

⁠@@bengilhooly3616 or double down and destroy it beyond repair

[@rootedinland6823]

Man, Taika let Hollywood swallow him whole, didn't he? His indie films are rare gems, they're great stories with a lot of heart. Ever since JoJo Rabbit, his films are rather... mid. And he's bought into his own hype so much that, rather than weirdly charming (as he used to be), he comes off as incredibly smug.

[@Socvinc]

Yeah, and sometimes arrogant at the worst. Jojo rabbit is such a gem, but besides our flag means death.. i completely agree, its just been getting lower.

[@Delicashilous]

Most of the People can't handle fame. They think fame brings them peace, but in Reality it's self-reflection.

[@Kittykatty224]

our flag means death has very little to do with taika besides his acting though

[@makaronmadownahihi]

My thoughts exactly, i really liked jojo rabbit but disliked (a lot) ragnarok and love & thunder. Educate me why he started downgrading his works? After marvel stuff he started acting like douche and his interviews are awful (to me at least)

[@xG1ZZM0x]

After Gorr killed his god, after that, they should’ve had Gorr give a monologue of him telling us why he’s killing the gods and the gods he killed, and showing him fighting these gods. It’s could’ve been a 2min scene giving everyone a briefing on Gorr motives

[@Thynqikan]

the god he killed in the first few minutes of the film was a doofus goofball, and it set the tone for the entire film which was terrible.

[@xG1ZZM0x]

@@Thynqikan agreed, he was terrible and that CGI was terrible!

[@SteffurtYoutube]

@@Thynqikan It created a contrast betweet gods and people who are suffering. It feels misplaced but that's kinda the point.

[@peterrealar2.067]

That or not have all the gods look like dicks and give him a more nuanced reason to kill them that requires more philosophy than Taika has in his brain.

[@raynarksatriawibowo6688]

Because it's a marvel movie, they rarely make an interesting villain because the action figure doesn't sold as wall as the heroes

[@abovewater6918]

Some of the deleted scenes had Christian Bale's Gorr interact with Jeff Golblum and Peter Dinklage's characters. I can guarantee those scenes were better than half the stuff in the film. He says didn't want the movie to slow down, so he cut stuff. If anything, the movie needed to slow down, it was crack cocaine in movie form.

[@patrickstewart3446]

Just having Jeff Goldblum makes it better than anything else in the film. 😁

[@johndanielsforJesus]

@Above Water - COMPLETELY agree. 👍👍 That's why I call him ADHD Waititi now. Especially after he countered Chris' comment about the 7 years old, with a comment that "6-year-olds" directed it! 😳 ADHD Waititi DOUBLED-DOWN, on Hemsworth's own comment! 😳😳 Couldn't believe what I was watching. The tonal shifts, were jarring! The movie needed another 30 minutes, at least, and, as you said, to "slow down", and let the serious moments, "breathe".

[@creaturesofqueens]

Goldblum & Dinklage’s agents should be doing everything in their power to destroy those scenes. Hats off to them for getting paid. What’s the chance that they were standing on set thinking to themselves this is terrible I see the writing on the wall?

[@StardustX24]

The over stimulation made it boring. It was more like an overdose.

[@myrealnameisjohndoe116]

Yeah, that's pretty mind boggling to hear from a director - Obviously the general public doesn't have the patience for movies to be as slow paced as they once were, but at the same time... Using Infinity War as an example, as great as the action scenes were, some of the more memorable moments were the drama scenes.(Peter Parker vanishing in front of Tony Stark's eyes, Thanos saying that it cost him everything, Vision being brought back to life just to be killed again...)

[@Debbie338]

As a Loki fan who was originally annoyed Loki wasn’t in this, I’m glad my favorite character was left out. Even he probably couldn’t have saved it.

[@smellslikemiddle-agedspiri8503]

It would have made no sense for Loki to have appeared in this movie and would have made it a train wreck. It would have been clearer than ever that Taika give zero shits about the overall storyline of the MCU.

[@TSH425]

@@smellslikemiddle-agedspiri8503 no it would as we know loki or at least another version of him is alive in the TVA so if he appeared it would make sense or we could see him being UK A GOD OF MISCHIEF and act like he's being held hostage In the TVA making thor they to bust in then trapping thor inside or proofing him would be funny as shit to see thor get TRICKED BY THE GOD OF MISCHIEF which seems to be forgotten 9/10 times lmao

[@beaq6755]

After what was done to him in Ragnarok I was relieved as soon as it was confirmed he wasn't in LT

[@kbraven7007]

To be fair, I think Loki being in the movie might have helped and maybe it would have helped expand the whole multiverse story and further move it along. Not too mention bring the Thor and Loki reunion to the story. But I think that the movie should have been better and have serious tone if they are going to do these storylines

[@Natta44]

The irony is, Loki had a better character arc than Thor and even Loki 2.0 has a better character arc and that was fast tracked 🙄

[@therealfilmnerd]

I’m annoyed at how they started calling the CGI bad, like bro, you guys don’t give the CGI artists enough time to finish all the vfx shots properly, like nearly every scene has some CGI, you gotta give them time and then he goes and calls out their work for not being good enough. And he is just laughing while saying the CGI is bad. Like honestly once you finish reviewing the film and see the bad CGI, yet still release it, you don’t just laugh at the CGI and call it bad, fix it before release, honestly. Sorry for the rant

[@Charlie_Alpha_Lima]

Then you for saying this. People say the cgi is bad but don't even know WHY it's bad and it's a gross over simplification that makes it sound like the artists were bad which is far from the case. I also get defensive when defending my craft

[@lunadead]

@@Charlie_Alpha_Lima we all know why it's bad and we don't blame the employees that does cgi, we blame disney for marvel's "outstanding" timecrunch and absurd quantity they try to push out.

[@Nousos]

Thor at the start of every movie: "I'm not worthy" Thor at the end of every movie: "I'm worthy"

[@SoapNugget]

And repeat

[@videogamesworld01]

In this movie he wasn't unsure if he was worthy, he just wanted to desperately find meaning in his life because he felt he had no purpose.

[@Nousos]

@@videogamesworld01 he found the same purpose in thor 1 2 and 3, rejected that purpose in avengers movies because he wasn't allowed to be strong, then gave that purpose to someone else who also gave up their purpose a few times and also didn't want the job. After a few thousand years of life on most of them, the asgardians would never respect the rule of anyone not of royal blood. There is only one candidate. That is his purpose.

[@johnvermintide]

also thor: oh no people died why

[@angeliquearcadian8518]

And somehow he is still worthy, after all death and all wreck we can blame him for!

[@abovewater6918]

Christian Bale himself said a lot of his quality scenes were cut. And now the director says we won't even get to see those scenes. I trust Christian Bale's opinion of Taika on what is actually good (besides Bale signing on for this movie hahaha). But at least his performance was good in the next to nothing screen time he had

[@johndanielsforJesus]

I suspect, if this movie doesn't crater, financially, that someone will start a petition, just like they did with Zack Snyder, and Justice League, to prompt the suits, to prompt ADHD Waititi, to make the Director's Cut. The more that this topic, is brought up, and continues in the media, the more likelihood we'll get to see the WHOLE thing. I want to see, the WHOLE thing.

[@NathanCassidy721]

Many of the defenders of this movie always point to CB’s performance. Because they don’t have much else to grasp onto.

[@thebatman4279]

He was way too good for this pantomime shit fest. Apparently he only took the role for his kids.

[@patrickbarrio101]

@@johndanielsforJesus wasn't the Snyder cut still trash though?

[@401RISaint]

Was like 10 mins total I think.

[@rugbynut5536]

Wanda vision could’ve been the perfect set up for phase 4 and beyond if it fully lent into to Wanda being a bad guy and the main bad guy for the next phase of movies like thanos was , she’s certainly powerful enough to pose a significant threat and it would have been interesting to see the characters that new and fought with Wanda try to go about beating her, but no Disney instead decided to make her the poor misunderstood mother who was just desperate for a family so let’s let her kidnap an entire town torture them for months and face NO repercussions

[@mrspams3489]

Im guessin you havent see the new dr strange movie?

[@TSH425]

@@mrspams3489 she still didnt get any repercussions in that lmao it's just the took her IQ and shoved it up her ass lmao instead of killing homie girl AMERICA she could have just got herself sent to a diff universe with her kids if her kids ever get sick she can DREAM WALK find America and ask her to take her to a universe with a cure for it OR HEAR ME OUT use her reality warping powers to heal her kids like she had WAY TO MANY OPTIONS that it felt like they just killed off Wanda's brain for the sake of it

[@hellothere69.]

@@mrspams3489 I'm guessing they mean Wanda as a main villan in the ultimate finale like how Thanos was from the beginning till the very end of Endgame

[@DrSalt-sk5bg]

@@hellothere69. that would be a terrible idea,kang is better

[@hellothere69.]

@@DrSalt-sk5bg Honestly I do NOT want to have a debate on this, yall are entitled to your opinions. I really have no opinion on this, I just want a good and entertaining story. I'm just starting what OP wanted to say, have your debate with OP if you will.

[@Kravatan]

For me the worst part of the movie is the one with the children. The first scene where the village gets attacked. Literally such a tragic event that would make all parents and you'd assume the people who are supposed to save them be confused and terrified. Literally 20 seconds later he's flirting with Jane and making jokes and the village people go about their day like nothing happened. Wtf

[@SevenPr1me]

The movie was written by a literal manchild

[@organicwins91]

Because it’s a superhero movie. Who cares! What did you expect?!

[@SevenPr1me]

@@organicwins91 "it's just a super hero movie who cares" omg how can you be so ignorant? Let me explain this in a special way. Imagine if you had a favorite restaurant, that had your favorite food. And every year you would come and enjoy this food and every time it was delicious. But suddenly, one year the quality of that food starts to diminish. At first, you don't make too big of a deal out of it. But eventually, as you keep visiting that food starts tasting worse and worse until you start wondering what the heck happened. Eventually you start feeling cheated and ripped off. Get it?

[@hotspot131638837]

@@organicwins91 you are sped

[@bengilhooly3616]

​@@organicwins91 You can't excuse a movies poor writing by saying it's a movie.

[@kiratherenegade1561]

Taika has stepped over the line from weird funny, to laughing at the jokes in his head.

[@theknight7229]

I find it hard to believe that even he finds it funny, but then again at the cinema I went to most where laughing their balls off, I don’t even understand why

[@i_need_sleep_2034]

@@theknight7229 lmao you may have went to the theater me and my family went to If it was us, then we were laughing because we have a really bad sense of humor, if it wasn't, then idk lmao

[@theknight7229]

@@i_need_sleep_2034 I mean whoever was laughing obviously has a really bad sense of humor lol no question

[@flyin_with_ryan]

Taika Watiti is a crazy guy. Just watch Free Guy, that entirely him, not a character.

[@mitchgarbeno3788]

He truly has…not the same guy I thought he was only a couple years back.

[@danwaters4139]

Chris Hemsworth - ‘I don’t want to do that. I’m not a piece of meat’ Taiko Waititi - ‘Ugh yes you ARE’ Imagine he was talking about a FEMALE ACTRESS. The woke outrage would have been insane.

[@minespatch]

You would think! I think the objectification of Hemsworth with watiti's malice should be a video in its own right.

[@MegaSpideyman]

@@minespatch Yeah, I had a problem with that when he said it and if Chris is clearly uncomfortable with it, why not leave it alone?

[@Tyler_W]

Typical feminist Disney. Allow the objectification of the men but clutch your pearls at the idea that women are appealing to the opposite sex (and the same sex who are into that sort of thing).

[@avillianchillinskrillian]

Do you think the "woke" outrage would of been justified? Because if not then outrage wouldnt be justified here.

[@jeremyordaz]

@@avillianchillinskrillian he's talking about the double standard. People lost their twitter minds that Scarlett Johansson was looking over her shoulder in the first Avengers poster but cut to Chris Hemsworth being completely naked and these same people are silent. It would've been better if it was BOTH Chris and Natalie who got their clothes blown off then that would've been equality and either appeased or upset everyone.

[@Sniffin_Smarties]

He literally said fully heartedly that we as an audience want to see Thor have a midlife crisis despite the fact he’s damn near 2,000 years old when we could’ve got a cool king Thor movie or maybe even a beta ray bill cameo

[@shadowjezzter]

Is everyone forgetting that subverting expectations isn’t always good? Why does it feel like directors and people in media are all just thinking that any subversion is great. Its now been done so many times that i just expect it so its lost its entire purpose.

[@SevenPr1me]

Nah what people are forgetting is that when you do subvert expectations, it's supposed to be with something better than what was expected. Taika is intentionally doing the opposite

[@TheGeekRex]

It's about intrigue. "I am your father" took that scene from being a cool fight, to being an incredibly striking emotional moment with a new world of implications and questions. It was infinitely more interesting than the expected route.

[@AnonYmous-qm7ln]

This movie is what happens when you film a thousand scenes because "Wouldn't it be cool if-" and then realize you don't have a story and are like "Nah it'll be fine just stitch this trash together and call it a movie"

[@calibula95]

"Nah, it'll be fine" -The Critical Drinker.

[@Masilya111]

Except those scenes were not even good individually

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Also a bunch of "wouldn't it be funny if" scenes as well

[@michaelwolf8690]

I'll grant you a lot goes on in the film, but the plot isn't very hard to follow, and there wouldn't be any way for the story to not be very obviously designed to be filmed the way it was filmed.

[@luxsuperbia1531]

it's not even "wouldn't it be cool if-" because that would have been more enjoyable, rather it's "wouldn't it be *funny* if-" which is a lot harder to make enjoyable because humor is subjective and can get tiring quick.

[@Dino-Savage]

Sadly I’m not as passionate for Marvel or Star Wars as I used to be. Thanks Disney.

[@pickle7433]

Fr it's actually insane how in both of those franchises, they hire directors whose sole purpose is to piss off the fans. How did we get to this point in film making?

[@Dino-Savage]

@@pickle7433 I don’t know. It’s strange. I’m almost at a point where I hate cinema now.

[@sarahpauley9517]

Ikr, it’s heartbreaking 💔

[@carterskindle7086]

Same for me.

[@Dino-Savage]

@@carterskindle7086 I’m starting to read more EU novels and Marvel comics and I’m just going to watch or see something Marvel or Star Wars when I hear good things. Hopefully I can eventually regain the passion I once had once I learn to pretend like these shitty movies and Disney plus shows don’t exsist.

[@huntercool2232]

Chris Hemsworth himself said “The movie is a film a 7 year old would make.”

[@ralphangel561]

Please bring back Kenneth Branaugh back for Thor 5. We need the essence of the first Thor

[@lukew6725]

The fact that there were scenes which were considered not good enough for this movie really makes me curious to see how bad those scenes are. 😂

[@darianstarfrog]

Possibly was the best bits.. not full of 'humour'

[@YouWillBeHappyOrElse]

A lot of Christian Bale being amazing, likely.

[@Player-re9mo]

"What you least expect you're gonna want to see is Thor going through a mid life crisis" I totally saw that coming! Hasn't Thor gone through several emotional crisis at this point. Like jeez, cut the guy some slack. I'd like to see a Thor who isn't emotionally broken and can stand on his two feet for once! Thor became the most depressed avenger!

[@Enzo575]

This movie had no direction whatsoever. Why make it a comedy when you can make it a point of redemption?

[@mrsam0496]

To be fair, Thor and Banner are always depressed in the comics too

[@atomicdancer]

What we actually see is a director going through a mid-career crisis.

[@aninternetuser4306]

@@atomicdancer this. 😆

[@officialthomasjames]

This movie is uninspired dog crap

[@eggscellentTH]

I recently found your channel, and I really like your videos. Your videos are fully of original thoughts and ideas, and present really in-depth analysis. You also do a great job of being very professional and putting in a lot of work, while also being entertaining.

[@charlesman8722]

“A film a seven year old would make.” That’s insulting towards 7 year olds

[@Lilbinger.]

I want to thank disparu, drinker, mauler, Az and Gary for me saving my money and skipping this tripe.

[@aeronaut8088]

Really?!? After years of Marvel cr*p, you needed a review to skip this? I won't even consider going to any Disney movie again until AFTER those guys give it a good review.

[@Lilbinger.]

@@aeronaut8088 well not exactly. The review just reinforced the fact I made the right decision.

[@daneg]

so...I had dim sum over the July 4th holiday. someone at the table ordered (and ate!) tripe. go figure! heh

[@daveeyes]

Amen.

[@habibjamalibrahim1207]

Bro they ain't gon fuck you 🤣

[@LouLikestowatch]

Poor Chris Helmsworth. He probably doesn't want to do anymore, his character has been abused by marvel too many times now. You imagine if a director was asking a woman to take off her clothes like that?!

[@girlonfire2.076]

He was a producer on the movie if he really didn't want to do it he wouldnt have

[@dfghxdfghsdsxdhdftx803]

@@girlonfire2.076 "she never said no so I continued"

[@cybercriminal3110]

If a female director asked that no one would care. No double standarts there. It's still f*cked up tho.

[@beaq6755]

Poor him? It was his idea in the first place to go whine to MCU and completely change the tones and characterization in Ragnarok and he got his friend waititi on board. Endgame Thor was the direct continuation of Ragnarok and Love and Thunder is the same. If he didn't want to be dragged around this way and that he should've stepped up and done his job properly and kept continuity from Dark World. He could've trained himself in acting more or do literally anything else that could've helped him be as praised as hiddleston was for his Loki. Instead he got a retcon, and now he needs to deal with it. I have zero sympathy for this guy

[@scottengels4143]

Poor Chris? He was asked and he agreed, and he was well paid for it. He could easily have said no, but he chose to do it instead. Is he a child?

[@jackbruno953]

A bit of an overreaction but I think in summary that the film’s most emotional were drowned out by the sheer amount of comedy sprinkled in. That and the mediocre story and rushed CGI, you have a pretty average movie. It wasn’t bad but I get why people are disappointed.

[@astrinymris9953]

To be fair, in the WandaVision Disney+ series Wanda *didn't know* that she was forcing a bunch of people to live out her world of make-believe with her. I haven't seen or even watched KZbin videos about 'Multiverse of Madness', but my understanding from a critical analysis of the series I watched was that Wanda's use of power to coerce people was subconscious; she wasn't trying to coerce anyone else to take part in her private fantasy Taika Waititi doesn't have that excuse.

[@scottengels4143]

Im not sure where you get that from. AT first Wanda was caught up in her own illusion. But as the show went on she was fully aware of what she was doing, and quickly disposed of anyone who could threaten the illusion

[@peterb5235]

Didn't know, that makes it even worse. She accidentally tortured and enslaved an entire village of innocent people? Like oops

[@scottengels4143]

@@peterb5235 Yes, it makes it worse. And by the Dr Strange movie, she has become a straight-up villain

[@anon-yw4wd]

The MCU went from top tier movies that will be remembered for decades to utter shite that willbe dumped into the dust bin of film history. That is some traject stuff man

[@videogamesworld01]

MCU never had top tier movies

[@brox6077]

@@videogamesworld01 infinity war

[@brox6077]

@@videogamesworld01 even if u don't like the other movies you can't deny infinity war was the peak

[@videogamesworld01]

@@brox6077 that doesn't make the movie top tier. And If you mean peak MCU the no cause That honor goes to Daredevil. It's a good movie though but it's not a top tier film just a good blockbuster

[@BabyGirlTiny]

Eh. They never had top tier movies and the movies won’t be remembered for decades. The MCU itself will be remembered but the films themselves did nothing to be worth remembering

[@ChapMeifan]

I'd like the Disney directors to stop feeling that 'subverting expectations' is a good idea for Marvel and Star Wars films and just make something original and good. Constantly pulling the rug out from under the audience works once but more and more it is tiresome and frustrating.

[@Tyler_W]

"Subverting expectations" and pulling the rug out from under the audience only works when you actually have a meaningful point to make with it and when you can do it without undermining the characters in the story. It can be done. It's just really hard to do well with established characters. That's why Game of Thrones (mostly) works as a subversion of high fantasy, because it's being done with original characters (which is one of many reasons why Rings of Power will be trash).

[@mattoreo5854]

@@Tyler_W yep. Subversion only works when the thing you're giving the audience is BETTER than the thing they were expecting. The reverse of that only leads to disappointment. The movie Glass (2019 I think) is a great example of this (the disappointment side of things I mean)

[@Xoulrath_]

@@mattoreo5854 Glass delivered exactly as expected. It's a far more realistic take on super powered beings in our world, and it played out as such. If you were surprised by anything that happened, then you weren't paying attention during Unbreakable and Split.

[@mattoreo5854]

@@Xoulrath_ overall I liked the movie, but glass kept foreshadowing and building up to a skyscraper fight but TWIST! The final fight is actually just in the yard of the hospital. That is subverting expectations in a bad way. The setup expectation (skyscraper fight) is better than the subversion (Hospital yard fight). The story itself I enjoyed, but it's like them setting up a gourmet meal and then getting kraft mac and cheese. I love kraft mac and cheese, but when expecting something superior, it's disapointing. (The ending also doesn't hold up, security camera footage would be swept under the rug and dismissed as CGI. And thats not how viral videos work, you dont post a video and then literally everyone gets notified immedietly, but the ending doesn't have to do with the main topic of this comment). Like I said, I like the movie Glass, but I think my favorite part was the begining seeing David Dunn fighting the Beast, and the last act of the movie was weak, not bad (in isolation), but a disapointment due to the subversions of expectations. If M Night didn't feel the need to try and "subvert" audiences expectations, then the first two acts would have just built up to the yard fight, forget the meaningless skyscraper, and it wouldn't have been disapointing. Sorry I rambled a bit long, but I just wanted to make sure you understood what I meant. I'm not saying that the marketing was deceptive or anything, just that the movie put in a needless red herring which would have been more exciting than what we got. Love the whole trilogy, but Glass was disapointing on first watch

[@Xoulrath_]

@@mattoreo5854 then you read way too much into the story. I never once expected the fight to leave the yard. The skyscraper scene to me looked like an endgoal that wasn't going to be made, not by the heroes and villains at least. And that's just how it goes with movies. We both saw the same movie, but experienced it in wildly different ways, lol. So I really don't fault anyone who likes Love and Thunder or Ragnarok, or that godawful, overhyped No Way Home. I didn't like the movies from my perspective of viewing, but I can respect that others did enjoy the movie from their perspective. That said, regarding perspective, I feel like way too many people today try to review the movie as the watch it instead of just watching it. Love and Thunder wasn't a horrible experience by any means. I don't feel like I wasted my time or money. That's primarily because I just watched it. I didn't bother to critique anything until after the movie was over. I find that it's much easier to enjoy any movie when you go in with no expectations other than, "The trailer looked good enough. I'll check it out." When people go in expecting or not expecting this, that, or the other, then of course they aren't surprised. Of course you're upset that you didn't get what you expected. Just watch the movie and stop trying to guess the next five scenes.

[@kentslocum]

I appreciate the bit at the end where you point out that the filmmakers are so disconnected from reality that they can't even comprehend, communicate, or capture normal human experiences like guilt and consequences. No wonder so many projects are nonsensical and unenjoyable.

[@prawnmikus]

You'd think market forces would have steered Hollywood straight by now, but apparently not. I suppose that's due to the sheer inertia of the beast, its outlets and partners. Hopefully soon we'll see the little guys get more of a say. Thor: Love and Thunder, is one of those movies I wish I could scrub from my mind, which is a pity as I love most of the actors.

[@Dr.Gillingstein]

I think Taiki Waititi wasn't interested in making a good movie. He just wanted to have fun on the set. You see, movie making is for the "stars" involved, not for the audience.

[@rootedinland6823]

He just wanted truckloads of money, I reckon.

[@thesnailtale8490]

You know I didn't think of it that way but I can completely agree. I think you have hit the nail on the head

[@TheGeekRex]

I think you got it honestly. It's like a big costume party where they can boss actors around and make them say stupid things, all while getting paid thousands an hour. No wonder they get so mad when the audience hates it, they didn't make it for anybody but themselves.

[@joshuapatrick682]

I don’t: I boycotted Disney after The Last Jedi. This is from everything I’ve seen kind of the opposite of that. It’s not bad because it’s subversion for the sake of subversion. It’s bad because the person who made it didn’t give a shit about it being good.

[@petriew2018]

it's also not subversion, it's just being a prick to the audience Good subversion is, say, the end of Return of the Jedi. Every fan knew going into that movie that it had to culminate into a final showdown between Luke and Vader. It did, but totally not in the way most fans would have guessed. The battle is not one of merely who's stronger. It's at the same time emotionally satisfying while also being unexpected. Giving Thor another mid-life crisis? i mean, yeah it's probably the thing fans don't expect.... but that's because it's stupid, stale and uninteresting. You didn't subvert anything, you just denied the fans what they would have liked to see out of petty spite and arrogance...

[@michaelwolf8690]

@@petriew2018 It's also not subversion. You idiots should really watch the movies you're critiquing. Saves you a lot of looking like idiots.

[@qweqqweq2090]

I also boycotted Disney for the same film. it was obvious they made that film bad anti men in purpose. after Thor Ragnarok I thought taika wititi was cool but then I saw JoJo rabit, the first 15 minutes of it, and was like, :"whoooooaaaa.... hope in a second. this guy also thinks all white men are evil and need to be educated about how evil and stupid they are too.". him doing ragnorok was just to get his foot in the door. JoJo rabit was what he really thought about white men.

[@romanbloomfield9066]

@@qweqqweq2090 JoJo rabbit was a satire of what legitimately happened to young white boys in the 1940s being conscripted into the Hitler youth and taught to idolize Hitler. Like do you just not understand the history of that time at all because.. Nazis were absolutely evil and kids were taught to idolize that.

[@chavaspada]

@@qweqqweq2090 seethe harder incel.

[@VlKING]

Taika literally forced chris to get naked am i hearing things??!?!

[@disparutoo]

That's what they said. How much of it was meant as more of a joke who knows.

[@j4ward95]

This is one of the examples on how it can go bad when you give a director to much power.

[@LobsterPuncher]

When given the choice, I always choose the directors cut. When the director doesn't even want you to see their work that speaks volumes.

[@NicolasConnault]

The agenda is to continuously lower the bar of expectations, so that it's increasingly cheaper to mass-produce these movies and series. They're laughing in the face of the "fans" by showing how bad it can get before they start losing money on a film.

[@darianstarfrog]

I don't know why people are still giving disney money..it's all streamed nowadays..so they they become torrents almost instantly! Lmao

[@jabronisauce6833]

@@darianstarfrog Because people think these movies are great they justify bad movies because it's something they like and to justify paying to seeing it annnnnd for the social media hype trains.

[@darianstarfrog]

@@jabronisauce6833 its a slippery slope for sure.. getting alittle too 1984 for me.. ifya havent read that.. I highly recommend..George Orwell was in some elite circles.. it's dressed as fiction..but it's their road map.. and it's in full swing right now.. we are at a very crucial stage , that's why I care so much. Doing what I can to help see another way ... the future isn't set in stone. We are literally making this up every moment.. we cant get lazy, not now.. seems they are though..lol.. tides are changing. .what a time to he alive!

[@HK47_115]

@@jabronisauce6833 right, people will literally defend the movie just because they liked it. Just because you liked it doesn't make it a good film. Lot of people like to transformers films but many of them can still acknowledge that they're bad film since as far as writing goes. And I want to be surprised if Michael Bay doesn't even know the definition of continuity. At least when it comes to the transformers films you seems to forget all about that. I'm not sure about his other films. But personally even through the bad movies I enjoy those songs cuz they're fun. But I'm not going to defend the fucking riding because it's fun. I'm not going to defend it because it's enjoyable to me. I enjoy it because it's fun to me regardless of this shit writing. Others are not going to like it because of this shit right. Me defending it when the writing is clearly obviously shit would be fucking stupid. And more so just treating it as an attack to my ego. And like you said, just trying to find an excuse to defend your purchase for the film. Which nobody should have to do that. I think the fact that you enjoyed the film is more than enough to defense for your purchase. That's the whole point we purchase media. To enjoy it. So if somebody doesn't like it they may have the legitimate reason to regret that purchase. Others might not. And this is definitely something that happens with all media and not just films. I see this within the gaming industry all the fucking time. People will defend the game like it's the perfect game and as if it's flaws are actually its strengths. I can think of a few games right off the top of my head that were very flawed, and probably could have used the biggest update of their life. A full blown overhaul. And yes I still managed to enjoy them. I think the fact I have any enjoyments of my purchase at all is enough of a reason to say my purchase was worth it. Regardless of others don't like it. Doesn't mean that game doesn't need some work done. But for some reason a lot of people don't want to look at it that way. If somebody else find something you like bad, there's a problem. God forbid they think they like actually has flaws.

[@michaelwolf8690]

Your ass needs to go back and watch some 90's era superhero and sci-fi films. Your perspective is a hot mess.

[@GasolineLicker]

Thor went from too serious, to a perfect balance of being badass and being comedic, to a fucking joke.

[@thesnailtale8490]

He was character assasinated tbh

[@1256813790]

Great Roast! excellent video.

[@staceya5149]

Taika brought into his own hype and it's ugly to watch. Perhaps if he cared more about storytelling and less about promoting his casting couch piece and cringeworthy self-insert character, he might have produced a better product.

[@darianstarfrog]

Agreed.. he's high on the hollyweird juice ..balls deep I'm the 'agenda', acting like a right see you en tee .. we were proud of our fellow kiwi making in Hollywood.. sadly though.. he's been sucked dry, and hollowed out..something else lives in there now..and its fukn ugly

[@bpswank429]

Please ..you yanks couldn’t get enough of Korg when you first met him

[@i_need_sleep_2034]

Korg is such a good character though

[@b.c.akathenewdarkeclipse]

They are so desperate to impress the wrong type of "people" that don't buy nor care about any of these movies

[@KangKush]

Bingo!

[@Crazozourus]

Taika Waititi, a Jar Jar Binks of directors.

[@H1Guard]

"The people that matter the least are the people that give them the money." What makes you think the fans give them money? No, directors and actors get paid up front by venture capital. They get some residuals if that's in their contracts. The problem is that if they produce crap they never get penalized. They never have to give back the millions they got paid up front.

[@michaelwolf8690]

You idiots who didn't see the movie didn't give them any money. Pleasing you is about as far from their objective as humanly possible.

[@StrangeCreed]

>"This is Wanda's reaction to trauma and loss" >this is why she should be forgiven Adolf Hitler was a good student and generally a popular kid before his brother passed away. Joseph Stalin was subjected to a great deal of abuse during childhood, and is quoted saying, "All warm feelings I had towards humanity died with her (sic his wife.)" That shit doesn't fly when torture and genocide are on the table.

[@anotherrandomguy8871]

They really just tried to justify Wanda committing torture, attempting to murder a child, and killing a bunch of people for trying to stop her attempted murder of a child, and Wanda also almost killed an innocent mother in front of the mother’s two children. Good thing innocent Wanda didn’t fall on her neck.

[@johnellisbushbush]

Oh look the Director and the actress he’s sleeping with make fun of CGI artist that Marvel didn’t give anywhere near enough time too. “I’ll ruin your mythos in a minute baby” Not wrong. In fact you’re so good at doing that, we’ll give you a Star Wars film

[@primmakinsofis614]

I wonder how many studio executives Mr. Waititi pleasured in order to get where he is.

[@meggy0]

@@primmakinsofis614 His ex-wife got him his start in film NZ, used all her connections, campaigned for him, and helped him get Thor Ragnarock, then he cheated on her with his young assistant while filming Thor, while she stayed in NZ and took care of their kids. She forgave him, then he left her again for Rita Ora, who also helps with her connections, He's a POS.

[@ronburgundy3172]

Its a bit petty thing to mock someone who's working harder and put under pressure they cant even fanthom.

[@darianstarfrog]

@@ronburgundy3172 well..if he wasn't acting like a pretentious twat.. I'd agree..

[@michaelwolf8690]

@@primmakinsofis614 All box office executives are pleasured by huge box office returns.

[@Moobeus]

5:28 to be fair to this scene, I saw this movie with my Mum and she LOVED it, she hadn’t seen Ragnarok so it was very helpful for her and helped her get into the movie.

[@tristanskywalker1998]

The volume can be done incredibly if people use it right. Take The Batman or The Mandalorian, where most effects were made in the volume.

[@tachi98lep]

Laugh every two and a half hours-good one! When a director needs to explain a terrible film, it's a bad sign! Rian Johnson level stupidity!

[@manoz6194]

like d&d with GoT, remember these are Jews

[@slashmytires9195]

@@manoz6194 I assume you perceive Jewish people negatively? If so, why?

[@michaelquaid4679]

But none of it was even funny! I wish it had been somewhat comical. As it stands the movie was worthless

[@manoz6194]

@@slashmytires9195 did my comment not give you a clue?

[@jithinff8686]

@@manoz6194 lol

[@NathanCassidy721]

Here’s the problem with trying to subvert expectations: It has to be unexpected. Too bad that Taika made the most predictable movie ever made. And when the most surprising thing in the movie is Jane dying and not replacing Thor, you’re not as good as you think.

[@bmcfonzie]

My problem with merely subverting expectations is it takes no talent whatsoever. Here's why:

[@chimichangaparty1222]

It was a good film. Subverted my expectations by giving me a good Thor mid life crisis story and seeing how he overcomes it. I think you guys just missed the point.

[@lefteron6804]

@@bmcfonzie you're pretty good.

[@anonman8661]

@@bmcfonzie You truly are a master at subverting expectations

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@chimichangaparty1222 and that could've landed with a different director. This director feels like he needs to constantly distract and move things along. None of the drama is allowed to sit, none of the emotional depth is allowed to be built up. It's a failure to balance out the comedy. James Gunn does a better job, he's given us some of the most emotional scenes in the entire MCU.

[@ced612]

I kid you not, after I watched Thor 4, I said to myself this movie feels like they purposely went out of their way to make a terrible movie. I was waiting to see if anyone else felt the same and this video confirmed my suspicions. It was obvious and that isn't fair to paying movie goers.

[@williamdistefano5698]

"Subverting my expectations" Sick as heck of that phrase

[@MerlosTheMad]

taika needed to be kept on small dumb films like what we do in the shadows. people like him destroy big ips with their irreverence and apathy

[@johndodo2062]

And by giving a job to his untalented girlfriend

[@kaijuking3216]

In other words, another Paul Feig...

[@saymyname2417]

To destroy franchises and characters is his job. At what he is very good. Why do you think this ridiculous blunderer was hired and very well paid for?! Understand and accept that this devastation is INTENDED to take any good and strong idol from you and replace it with scum. So, don't watch it or you get what you deserve: being Sh1t into your brain to dumb and put you down. It's that simple. You just have to accept the truth.

[@NTEDOG561]

@@kaijuking3216 yea except arguably worse

[@kennethbillings614]

Don't forget that Jemaine Clement co wrote and produced "what we do in the shadows", and it shows.

[@michaeldonovan231]

It's not different it's just worse than Ragnarok

[@JakeKoenig]

If I end up going to Hell when I die, it will just be me strapped to a chair with my eyes pried open watching an eternal loop of Taiki Waititi and Tessa Thompson talking to each other in front of a white background.

[@mikestanmore2614]

So that's what Tessa Thompson looks like when she portrays an emotion. Huh. I've seen her in a few films now, and this is the first time I thought she felt anything.

[@glados4765]

I highly recommend seeing Top Gun Maverick. Practical effects, real planes, real acting and actual writing. Thor isn't even worth pirating.

[@kingmuizz708]

Top gun is awesome

[@organicwins91]

It’s not that serious. It’s a superhero film, not a deep film..

[@kingmuizz708]

@@organicwins91 superhero films don't have to be god awful man, top gun was awesome tho so check it

[@zachrohler1047]

Literally nobody wanted to see thor having a mid life crisis. Hes over 1000 years old ffs.

[@williamroberts6803]

The number one problem with the volume background is they can’t change it in post production, they have to reshoot everything that doesn’t look good. Green screen they add later so if they want to change it they just go to computer and change it. No reshoots.

[@jagmo]

Thanks for your perspective. Very helpful.

[@JonathanMandrake]

If you are a somewhat decent director, you will end up with more great footage than what fits in the runtime, and many scenes that are cut will be great, and you hate that they have to go. The better and greater the story, the more such hard decisions have to made. If you don't have to cut scenes you love, you either are a master at planning things out, or most likely you just failed at directing and the movie could be condensed into an hour or less. It is basically unheard of to keep all scenes you love. It's like saying you could eat everything you loved at an all-you-can-eat-buffet: Chances are that you either have to stop eating at some point even though you would love to continue, or the buffet is shit.

[@Enzo575]

So ........

[@djminos2759]

I'd be pissed if I'd funded the film. 2.5 hrs in the bin! That's a lot of cash

[@merrylderrickson3147]

Youre dealing with two arbitrary variables here: necessity and preference neither of which are formulaic. some of the greatest films of all time have disregarded the "necessities" entirely...they are fashioned purely from preference. now, i understand you're speaking generally here...but i'm just trying to remind you, outside massive studio employment, finding an auteur who cuts scenes he loves because "there just isn't enough time to include it" is an extremely rare occurrence

[@ura4321]

Fans love director's cuts. People don't care about the length, they are already binge watching 4 one hour episodes of other shows.

[@johndanielsforJesus]

Thank you! 👍 👍

[@vichukuttan9625]

In this love and thunder🤮 director cut would be worst

[@darianstarfrog]

He knows..dudes flat out being the world's biggest asshole for no good reason

[@johndanielsforJesus]

@@vichukuttan9625 Perhaps. But, like a good train wreck, I want to see ALL of it, lol. The biggest piece I want to see, is Jane getting Mjölnïr, and how that played out. The movie we got, was her, standing over the shattered pieces, the pieces started to shake and levitate, then "cut", or "end scene". Yet there were still images of Jane, during the production of the movie, on wires, as Jane, "floating" (like she did in Dark World, with the Aether), in that Asgardian setting. I want to see THAT scene, drawn out, like it should have been, in the movie. How does ADHD Waititi go from the shards moving under the bowl, to a whole different scene? Most viewers figured it out, but it was still stupid, and, obviously, jarring.

[@vichukuttan9625]

@@johndanielsforJesus bro the editors cut everything was too childish scenes that's why they cut it from and they told we won't give you

[@kevinwilson5711]

Good commention ,good insight, good analysiing points of view. 👍

[@Blue-oi9yg]

I'm glad people are seeing that Taiki Waititi isn't as great as they made him out to be. Ragnarok had flaws, specifically making the main character a joke among other things. It was a fun film but It could have been better. And what worked wasn't all because of the director.

[@chrisdolan9579]

Justifying ones own bad behaviour has become a leading trend with today's youth! Nobody else can even utter a word you don't like, but you do whatever you feel! It's narcissism of the highest order!

[@Tim_the_Enchanter]

Waititi can make a "better" Thor. He can't create his own character and tell a story through that character ... but he's going to make the one you've been following for years "better."

[@Thynqikan]

I have no idea who that character was in Love and Thunder but it wasn't Thor. I think he should be called Bro.

[@Tim_the_Enchanter]

@@Thynqikan lol "Bro: The Endless Search for Self" I like it.

[@peterrealar2.067]

I question how making a Thor that destroys walls for a laugh is better than a Thor with restraint.

[@MagicMan69171]

Yep 💯😃

[@rishadahmed3969]

Ragnarok is one of the best marvel films though

[@jayfreeman5117]

One of the worst and most unprofessional things you could do as a producer (business wise) is tell or imply to the consumer and costumer is that you know better than them, and come off as arrogant. It’s the quickest way to lose fans, and your audience.

[@omarcapaso7156]

I find it hilarious that I get an ad for Thor after you were talking shit ab it lmaoooo

[@izenmartinez465]

The amount of great content creators I’ve been exposed to through being a Critical Drinker follower has been really rewarding. Disparu is one of my favorite channels now.

[@thebatman4279]

I first came across him with the Obi Wan Kenobi videos. So glad I found him.

[@EddieNgatia]

Same here bro!!!!!

[@SoapNugget]

Been watching him for years. Just found this guy through recommended, def gonna b watching more of him

[@MagicMan69171]

👍🏿😩

[@elaguajdo]

I recently discovered "What We Do In The Shadows" (the film), and I thought it was hilarious. It was quite clearly a parody of vampire movie tropes. Terrific. Unfortunately I'm pretty sure Waititi decided that ALL of his films were going to be parodies after that. As much as I liked "Thor: Ragnarok," it was quite clearly all over the place tonally. Joke after joke after a very dramatic bit. The Warriors Three tossed aside with hardly a blink. Asgard bites the dust and Waititi himself (as Korg) cracks a one-liner, etc. My boys and I MIGHT watch this on Disney +, but we're in no hurry. Only the second Marvel movie we won't have watched in the theaters ("The Eternals" being the first). Can Waititi really ruin Star Wars though? It's been gone for years.

[@kennethbillings614]

Don't forget that Jemaine Clement co wrote and produced "what we do in the shadows".

[@MrBarborosa]

​@@kennethbillings614 Jermaine is the real talent

[@darianstarfrog]

Disney plus!? You know you torrent anything that's streamed right!? Why you giving them your money!? Jeez! Vote with ya money and attention..

[@Tyler_W]

I don't think it's been "gone for years." I've pretty much forced myself to not get excited for anything Star Wars until it proves itself or unless Dave Filoni is the one creatively holding the reins like with Clone Wars, Rebels, Bad Batch, Mandalorian and soon Tales of the Jedi. He's not perfect, but he knows how to tell cool and fun Star Wars stories, and you can tell he actually gives a rip about it. Waititi's episode or two that he did in The Mandalorian were mostly really good, but if this is what we have to expect, I'm probably checking out for this as well. I'm glad it'll probably be it's own self-contained thing with no established characters. That's the best sign that it actually has a chance at not being terrible.

[@drews2444]

I dont understand what people like about that movie. I watched it on a chill night I was high as fuck but I only laughed once the entire movie. It was predictable, dry, and just boring as hell.

[@NickCarroll]

Unfortunately a lot of movies are made this way, but especially with Marvel Studios movies, where tons of lines of dialogue are either pre-written, or ad-libbed spontaneously for every scene, and a lot is left out on the cutting room floor. Even trailers for movies can have some of these lines in them, but the final release of the movie never has them, because they were removed before release. They may or may not appear in deleted or added scenes once the movie is released outside of theatres. (DVD, Blu-Ray, streaming, syndication) This is what the studio wants, in the sense they can have early screenings, get reactions, and then add or remove scenes from what's filmed, and schedule reshoots if needed.

[@jmace2424]

Really creepy that TW pressured Chris into doing a shirtless scene. Imagine if an actress got pressured into going topless.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

Can we please keep Waititi from using the white nose powder ever again? He was so much better when he wasn't vacuuming white stuff from tables

[@johndanielsforJesus]

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆👍👍😁

[@immichelleblock.........im4111]

The Disney-Marvel motto: The key to success is subversion

[@immichelleblock.........im4111]

Or what makes fans angry?

[@daneg]

eh. I think Marvel is actually very protective of their IPs. They let Waititi take liberties with Thor, and this last movie was (I think) a bridge too far. But Feige has done a ton of wrangling. even before him, Marvel was pretty famous for it. you can really see this when you compare the MCU stuff to the SW debacle over at Lucasfilm. They have really serious continuity and character continuity issues. They couldn't even put together a "trilogy" of movies designed to go together.

[@devaraft]

Minority here but I actually love the second part of the movie. Specifically when they're in ship and goes to the shadow planet thingy. From there on the joke kept at minimum and I genuinely like the dialog. For better or worse I love that Watiti is being set free no matter how idiotic it is compared to the restrained Sam Raimi.

[@overlygoated3791]

I liked this movie a lot better the new Dr strange tbh so I was not too dissapointed

[@thesnailtale8490]

I thought it was great fun, I liked the scenes with the children being empowered too but being a mum I suppose I am bound to lol

[@wormie077]

i am PRAYING that these deleted scenes get leaked by someone rn

[@brothatisfunny]

I think George R R Martin really gave away the method of thinking: As long as brand exist, they can do anything, cause brand sells, no need to worry about quality, continuity, being faithful to the lore or anything, shove your politics, race/genderswap the characthers, who, most of the time ARE the brand itself, make them secondary on their own story, as long as it's BRAND it will sell

[@thewalruswasjason101]

George Martin can piss off. He knew the story wasn’t written and still allowed hbo to finish it.

[@darianstarfrog]

@@thewalruswasjason101 fair call.. I ended up getting all his books so far..(second hand) not planning to read any, until I'm sure it's got an ending.. low abd behold.. nothing.. he doesn't seem to give a shit.. like 'o well, they wrote the end for me I guess, my readers can have that!' Fark off

[@Tyler_W]

@@darianstarfrog I don't think that's his thinking. He's recently stated that his story isn't going to end that way, and either it never was going to end exactly the same way or it isn't going to end that way anymore, so he's clearly not thrilled with the execution of the last couple seasons either.

[@darianstarfrog]

@@Tyler_W yea, I don't believe I'm making a correct assumption..it just SEEMS so, ya know.. he ain't making public statements to quell our fears is he?

[@Dave_L913]

Sometimes Director's cuts are good, sometimes not so much. I remember suffering through the director's cut of Amadeus, which had a subplot that was thankfully excised for the theatrical release.

[@elaguajdo]

Loved "Amadeus." Got the Director's cut for home. I agree with you completely, the theatrical version was superior.

[@dl7905]

The Amadeus Director's cut totally destroys Salieri's character.

[@petriew2018]

i only care about a 'Director's Cut' when we know there was heavy studio interference in the final product. Otherwise... yeeeah, editors are often the unsung heros of the movie industry...

[@seethroughlife1481]

I thought the Snyder cut for JL was wayyyyy better than the theatrical cut. A different film, almost

[@Stefansrb369]

LOTR though

[@Godstud]

Subverting expectations is the new "thing" and the worst possible way to make a movie, that has any sort of fans associated with it. Ragnarok was fun. Thor kicked ass in the end.

[@iankantrara7756]

I definitely think this was a not the best marvel movie out there, but I still genuinely think taika waititi is a good director. Sure he has gotten an ego with all of his successes, but his movies have been such a great refresher from all of the bland cookie cutter Hollywood movies we have been getting recently. Yeah it might be better if he takes these risky ideas to his own movies rather than existing franchises, but we would not have gotten a movie like Ragnarok which was pretty damn good imo. If he messes up one movie trying something new I honestly don't mind that much, as long as he learns from it. I feel you were being rather cynical about all of it and only focusing on the bad parts, but hey that's just my opinion and I don't want to really start anything.

[@books2438]

Honestly I just think the fame got to him... wouldn’t be surprised if we didn’t get any more good stuff from him. I don’t idealize people and I’m still surprised by this. Of all people, I wouldn’t have expected him

[@iankantrara7756]

@@books2438 oh yeah he has definitely gotten a big head which is unfortunate, but I guess we will have to wait and see what he puts out next lol

[@jonbear7683]

Making a great movie, without trashing the characters we are suppose to be able to admire, would subvert my expectations

[@Thynqikan]

I can't imagine this movie getting worse as it was abysmal. Thanks for the video.

[@theknight7229]

I’d guess if Christian bales performance wasn’t in there it’d be worse.

[@RM_VFX]

You say "Taika Waititi", I say "Taika WHYtiti?"

[@slothlovechunk]

"I wanted this movie to be different from Ragnarok. Ragnarok was good..."

[@saymyname2417]

I believe Waititi knows exactly that he is a trash director and he's covering up with what's supposed to be humour. He was hired to partake in the destruction of the franchise and character assassination. And in that he fully succeeded.

[@fuferito]

Except Waititi is not a trash director. He just didn't do it right in this movie.

[@TheUnseenPath]

@@fuferito He's a trash director in this movie.

[@christianglass9139]

He was also in free guy and that movie was fucking stupid

[@darkseid6898]

@@fuferito Don't be ignorant. Waititi is CANCER. Only sheeple pay for this kind of woke trash.

[@HoldinContempt]

@@fuferito he is trash. I saw the one "good" film he made called jojo rabbit and it was complete and utter shit.

[@briankulesz9410]

Thor: Crap and Diarrhea was so god-awful (pun unintended), I can only imagine how bad the deleted scenes were.

[@itsbambi92]

Upon clicking on your video, an ad for Thor love and thunder played saying it’s the #1 movie in America 😅

[@Witchyrose2349]

They should have never give him the movies! :/ It totally got downhill after that....

[@MajinBuu91]

When first watched the movie i thought it was fine with a 6 out of 10 at best… But the more i think about it the worse it gets.. The Jane character wasn’t as annoying as i expected, but Thompson was awful as usual and I actually hate Korg now… Taika is just not as good as he thinks, love Ragnarok but can’t name one other movie or role that is good from him…

[@jeffreytroublefield4265]

I actually cheered when I thought Korg died. Got a few looks.

[@peterrealar2.067]

Other than Jojo Rabbit? Yeah.

[@mattoreo5854]

Jojo rabbit and WWDITS were great movies imo

[@manormal5724]

Really? How bout What we do in the shadows? Hunt for the wilder people? Boy? Jojo rabbit? Taika's a great director, he just made a crappy movie. It happens sometimes, calm down.

[@darkoale3299]

@@manormal5724 He's great with original IPs. He needs to stop doing superhero movies.

[@5ccsomat]

Is he went insane? Did he not read news about other movies which gave us what we did not want? Basically every big franchise is dead by now, the western comicbooks are dead as well, most of the games are trash as well.......

[@darianstarfrog]

Hes apart of it now bro.. he revels in it, mad with power.. it's embarrassing.. we (nz) should be disowning him!

[@JakeTaaylor]

Not to discount any points made in the video. I agree with a lot of things said in this video. But supposedly, Natalie Portman worked out hard for this movie and her arms are not augmented with CG. I’m not saying that’s a fact, but that has been said many times by people involved with the film.

[@duoandaone3223]

Damn his ego really went through the roof after Ragnarok. He even had the audacity to give his own character so much fricking screen time, when compared to other important characters.

[@jayrwalters]

Thank you for not kissing Marvel’s ass and giving an honest review. This is spot on! Taika has destroyed Thor.

[@xSilentZeroXx]

2:27 I'm actually going to agree with him, with the stipulation that it needs to come from a place of love for the property and its fans, not malice (and I'm not convinced that Waititi isn't malicious, to say the least). Believe it or not, there was a time when the ever increasingly-popular game Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance was near-universally despised among Metal Gear fans. All they had was trailers, and the trailers showed a hack-and-slash action game instead of a stealth game like they were more used to, and they didn't like it. It wasn't until the game actually came out and they played the damn thing that they finally began to realize just how good it really was. Though I do think timing is critical. When a series is on life support, you need to get back to its roots, not be getting overly ambitious with crazy ideas that don't seem to fit at first glance. And the MCU is absolutely on life support.

[@Tyler_W]

Couldn't agree more. Whether or not "that" works is entirely dependent upon the attitude with which it is done towards the audience and the established property being handled.

[@Jaysnipes]

I didn't really notice that about the Doctor strange film that I was just about to call "the Wanda film". You're right she was basically like the main character. I sort of enjoyed the film though. Haven't seen the new Thor.