THOR LOVE & THUNDER - A Perfectly Mediocre Superhero Movie

[@TheAdidasKnifer]

The hardest thing for me is that 3 very heavy, powerful themes were clearly teased and available for exploration- with 3 phenomenal actors- and went totally underdeveloped. If gods are good why do bad things happen: Gorr/Bale Immortality and the loss that comes with it: Thor/Hemsworth Righteousness even in the face of death: Jane/Portman They had all these moments where I was like: Can we linger here? Yet instead, 10 seconds in Korg interrupts with some narration or commentary on what it means on a surface level.

[@invizcharlie9477]

But the consumer surveys say we need MORE comic relief characters!

[@motherplayer]

Indeed. And I really wanted to like the film more than I did. It certainly had the potential and Taika has done that well in his career, but this movie felt like a big dumb joke, except when it had to grin and bear being "serious". This was Taika just on a high and doing what he wanted because he can get the money to do so, and I hope he does something smaller and actually cares next time.

[@gregoryl.levitre9759]

Don't expect depth from a kiddie pool.

[@derlich09]

@@gregoryl.levitre9759 with a thimble of water in it.

[@ripstainmcripstain905]

Portman can't act.

[@Haterator]

To me, it was just too silly, too many jokes or rather attempts, because many did not land. The supposed to be serious parts were not handled well. Left me cold. It was a jumbled mess. Bale was good, though. Underused. Some creative parts were neat, like the fight on the small planet in b/w. Other than that, a major step down from Thor: Ragnarok.

[@RralRonaldo]

Same opinion as everybody else, nothing original

[@maxbracegirdle9990]

Yeah. Taika Waititi is really a great comedian and director, but it should have been him and someone who has alot more experience writing blockbuster epics rather than just normal movies.

[@why8298]

@@RralRonaldo he is right, this movie could’ve been really good but taika tried to hard to make it a comedy and it just didn’t work like he wanted it to.

[@faustsiftar7683]

Who cares

[@archova7999]

Oo

[@beanteen4266]

People audibly laughed in my theater when Jane told Thor she had cancer.

[@johnwerner69]

Yikes

[@thejasminedragonmerchant6843]

That's... actually awful. Cancer is a serious medical issue.

[@TheOldMan-75]

@@thejasminedragonmerchant6843 Pretty sure Jane and Thor aren't real.

[@bintadiallo6504]

I laughed a little too ngl 💀 obviously not because of cancer as a serious illness but because of how random and dumb it was as a plot device in a Thor movie 💀💀💀

[@gezz5904]

Edgelord. Gross.

[@PetSymmetry]

The idea that Gorr would even consider leaving his daughter to Thor after Thor literally just sent an army of kids to, realistically, their deaths fighting Gorr is so insanely unbelievable. That decision literally reinforced everything negative Gorr thought about Gods and they don’t even mention it. Absurd

[@mikemorro140]

well children empowered by the Thor Force plus it's shown his daughter is powerful herself now

[@fernandogimenez7520]

LOL.. You are right. The endless cicle

[@ElvistheAlien]

I think the kids being gifted Zeus' power made them, in a sense, "temporarily immortal", seeing how Zeus was shot through the chest and survived. Kind of dumb since Thor has no way of knowing this, and ya it was a very silly scene. What really convinced Gorr of Thor's compassion was the scene with Jane anyway.

[@hello_alpine1693]

To be fair they didn't exactly have any way of escaping the shadow beasts he had summoned, so that was ironically the only way Thor could protect the kids in that regard. Also important to note that the sword had been destroyed directly prior to them meeting Eternity, so the curse's murderous bias against the gods it casted in his head was already effectively gone by the time Jane died

[@thebermuda99]

@@ElvistheAlien the movie is shit

[@simplebeauty120]

The fact that none of the other god went to help Zeus when he got shot actually makes ✨perfect✨ sense.

[@simplebeauty120]

Also love the DB reference.

[@scarlettgoodier5927]

@@simplebeauty120 I was thinking the same thing, Zeus is a bit of an all powerful tyrant in Greek mythology so can imagine other gods secretly hoping for his demise/the top spot to free up without having to expose their own disloyalty

[@BlackWACat]

'Oh no, Zeus might die? What horror! Anyway,' - Hera, probably

[@petejackson3215]

more like the budget weren't allowed

[@helloneighbour2408]

it makes sense they didnt help him, it didnt make sense he got killed so easily

[@potatoman3654]

The thing I dislike the most about this movie is that Gorr was literally right in the end. Thor is the only god that actually does anything to help. Every single other god was exactly the same as the first god that betrayed Gorr. And yet the movie still paints him as a villain who was wrong because of the actions of one single god? Thor himself experienced the same thing Gorr went through in the beginning, having faith that the gods would aid him and being betrayed by them in his time of need. Really wish the movie had acknowledged this in some way.

[@TheOneMagpie]

It's too obvious for them to not have been aware of, which leads me to believe it was a cut scene, surely.

[@gaminggalaxies6633]

Well there's also Khonshu from Moon Knight, who insists on helping humanity with Marc as his avatar.

[@BoogSReviews]

@@gaminggalaxies6633 Khonshu is kind of a vengeful god so idk if I’d say he’s that helpful.

[@gaminggalaxies6633]

@@BoogSReviews He helped save the world from Ammit and her deciples in Moon Knight, and he explicitly goes after evil people and those who've done harm to innocents. Yeah, he's a prick but in comparison to his own patheon (with exception to Taweret) who are all content to just be idle observers and especially compared to most of the gods in Love and Thunder...yeah, I'd say he's pretty damn helpful.

[@hello_alpine1693]

That's a problem that's really annoyed me with action movies as of late. The villain actually winds up slightly agreeable, if not just completely in the right, but does something morally objectionable to make sure the audience doesn't actually side with him in the end

[@markg2701]

For me i was kind of irritated with how Thor was handled. The last time we saw him he was a broken man still suffering from Thanos PTSD and instead of him working to become whole again and heal throughout the movie all of his trauma is healed in the opening narration and hes back to ragnarok thor cracking jokes and stuff. He was not ok in endgame but love and thunder just basically says "oh hes all better now" without any actual attempts to show how.

[@MyFunnyVids888]

like how he had survivor's guilt and was in a dark place when we last saw him even after redeeming himself

[@Guy117.]

Yea it feels like he was straight up character assassinated

[@QuantumBoogaloo]

Yeah they tried to recreate Thor Ragnorok, but he just went through a bunch of trauma so he shouldnt be so happy-go-lucky as he was at the beginning of Ragnorok. Characters need consistency and causes for change.

[@yourbabytee]

The writers said he’s not fat anymore so he’s good

[@BoogSReviews]

Thor was finally in a good place in life again. Thanos was gone for good, he’s fit again, and was adventuring with the guardians. He also has a new purpose with raising love which I think is really interesting. He went from cocky prince who wouldn’t listen to his dad to an adoptive dad himself. I think his whole experience has humbled him and made him understand why Odin did what he did.

[@KopiSiLove]

Thor has endured tragedy in his life. He fought Thanos alongside Capt America and Iron Man, he also lost his family (father, mother and Loki), yet this movie treated him like a joke. This makes me sad.

[@RafaelCabreraAzrael]

marvel fans be like

[@joaomachado3688]

exactly, the direction made a parody, not a good adaption

[@DisDatK9]

“Look how they massacred my boy”

[@Tenchi707]

Yeah that one hurts, I wait for beautiful dramatic scenes but it's just jokes, I love scenes of Gorr and his daughter, the love he has for his daughter ngl made me tear up

[@bobross8585]

What? The movie did not treat him like a fucking joke dude. What are you even talking about?

[@carminevillani2050]

Only Mjolnir has the stipulation that you have to be “worthy” to wield it. Storm breaker is just really heavy, but pretty much anyone strong enough can lift if if they want. Hope this clears some things up.

[@jakeprado7724]

came to the comments to see someone point that out...

[@MkAngelSlayer]

Me too xD​@@jakeprado7724

[@quipsilvervr]

At the end, Christian Bale's performance was heartbreaking. He really did throw everything at the role.

[@Mustansirtaher6]

Yeah

[@JoakimOtamaa]

Even he was pretty bland or bad.

[@epictoe7179]

I definitely didn’t *hate* the movie, I just wish there were more scenes with Gorr. For someone called the “God Butcher” you don’t really see him butchering gods. For example, in the movie we see a giant ice god dead, and apparently Gorr killed him off screen, I really wanted to see how Gorr killed him it seemed epic.

[@justarandomghost2144]

They did film it to my understanding but the movie ended up being like 4 hours and so they cut a lot because marvel didn't want it to be over 2 or 3 hours and that led to Taika being mad (I mean, rightfully so, no way home and Dr strange were longer than hid film) and so he cut a lot as like a middle finger to marvel

[@TheDiamondSlayer1]

@@justarandomghost2144 that's just childish though, making your film worse just as a middle finger lmao

[@dhairya8238]

@@justarandomghost2144 we need a takia's cut!!!!

[@thejaded]

@@TheDiamondSlayer1 This has been reoccurring, they just cut down and reshoot. Happened with Dr Strange MOM

[@chimpo961]

@@thejaded y are you talking about Doctor strange's mother? Which makes absolutely no sense

[@nogoodgreen3274]

The screaming goats dropped my score for the movie by a point for every scream after the first time.

[@HoChiMints2007]

It's funny the first time, but Taika's dadjoke brain took over and told him to put that in AGAIN AND AGAIN

[@MyFunnyVids888]

the goats automatically lost points with me the minute they got introduced because its literally the definition of a writer that thought "what are the kids into these days" like when they made the hulk dab

[@BeefnStewGames]

It reminded me of the Llama from the Guardians of The Galaxy game

[@Granturion]

Fcking goats super annoying.

[@calus_bath_water]

I thought the goats were funny:(

[@jasonlx2757]

The most disappointing thing about this movie is how poor they write Jane as a character. The comic offers such a good story and Jane's' death hits so hard. But the director just boiled it down to silly comedy which is really upsetting.

[@pagatryx5451]

@@littlesparrow303 Chris is an actor. Not a writer.

[@QuinCreeperKid]

Cause its a comedy movie

[@mg682]

ironically this was the best she's been in the franchise.

[@Tenchi707]

After her saying call me "Doctor Jane Foster" I don't think any story after that would have made people tear up lol, she got offended by "Lady Thor" whilst Thor is being made up all the time lol

[@LimpDikyearsago]

@@pagatryx5451 actually after the 1st film Chris was given more freedom (because of the success) and yes he did wanted Thor to be more comedic hence the shit show after 2nd Thor and other marvel films with Thor. Did u ever watch the BTS or bonus shit on the 2nd bluray? Chris is a drama queen since his days on home and away and will always be a drama queen/action star but for the love of gorr he needs to lay off comedic roles imo he's shit at comedy

[@LinksBetweenDrinks]

This is one of the reasons I like your reviews. Not everything has to be an unmitigated disaster or an underrated masterpiece to you. It's such a strange notion online; just having some fun watching a movie, then going about with your life.

[@Tenchi707]

People have expectations so

[@Crinbo]

In terms of the MCU, Love and Thunder *is* an unmitigated disaster though. It’s pretty easily the worst MCU movie (and I say that as someone who only likes maybe 4 of these things) and one of the worst movies of the year. There isn’t a single laugh in the movie, lots of Taikaing (yuck) all over the place. Any serious elements are swept completely under the rug in favor for bad jokes. Bale is giving it his all, but you can only do so much with this nothing role.

[@hampter8992]

a lot of times its clickbait, but this movie really deserves the hate, it was soooo bad

[@nikkikado4079]

@@Crinbo eternals exists ya know

[@Crinbo]

@@nikkikado4079 That’s true! Tbh I forgot about it. It was less actively annoying than Love and Thunder I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Thespokenone]

I really liked Filamento's review on the film, as he pointed out a lot of inconsistencies with the villian and also provides alterations that would make his motives more consistent.

[@protosopic6398]

Right, and I don't think it's fair for that one to be tossed in with the rest seeing that the 'Anatomy of a Failure' title has been given to good films in the past, and vice versa.

[@RayValdezPhotography]

True but Elvis was just pointing out the hate bandwagon when it comes to films and youtubians content creators. They use catchy negative titles, talk a lot of shit to get views which can turn into money.Filmento doesnt do a deep dive into the negativity like other creators so I like his stuff a lot. I dont mind a good bashing for crappy movies but it gets boring after awhile if it has no substance.

[@tadihotado3518]

​@@RayValdezPhotography doesnt mean they're wrong, having a different opinion is good, but having the wrong opinion about a fact is beyond stupid, and the fact is this movie sucks fucking ass

[@mattfehrenbacher7241]

Stormbreaker doesn’t have the same restriction of only being able to be carried by someone who’s worthy, so Gorr can carry it no problem

[@toninomatalone7323]

Is it because technically groot is carrying it? It's part of the weapon but at the same time weilding it

[@invadernik]

it was enchanted though.... he enchanted it in infinity war when he first got it, when he got knocked unconscious and after groot gave it the handle

[@jakemelendez7843]

@@toninomatalone7323 No, Mjolnir couldn't be lifted by unworthy beings because Odin spoke an unbrakable vow into it at the beginning of the first Thor movie. That vow was never made on Stormbraker, and since Stormbreaker isn't sentient (only the handle since its groots arm) it doesn't have any limitations on who can actually wield it.

[@toninomatalone7323]

@@jakemelendez7843 Oh ok thanks! Cool to know.

[@TheGravityAxe]

I was waiting for someone to bring this up.

[@Diabolical-Tyrant]

They really missed out on having a load of scenes where gorr is just absolutely slaying a load of gods

[@Omega4Productions]

There's been mentions that there were some "bordering on R18" level scenes of Gorr cut from the movie, and I have to wonder if those scenes were him actually earning the epithet "god butcher"

[@thejaded]

Bro that would've been badass. Maybe like a scene where they all try to gang up on him. Kind of like when Hela came back to Asgard 🤷🏾‍♂

[@leepicrandomaa]

@@thejaded not only it would solidify gorr nickname, it will also give scene between gorr and thor a lot more tension because we know what gorr is capable of

[@thejaded]

@@leepicrandomaa I think they should've had maybe two movies to build up Gorr. He was truly a underdeveloped villain and that's sad...

[@ValhallaAMV]

One thing I wanted to mention is that New Asgard isn't a theme park, it's a city for the surviving Asgardians. It just gets a lot of tourism which helps Val build it's economy.

[@_Tokenwhtguy]

Looked like a theme park to me.

[@Omega4Productions]

@@_Tokenwhtguy Probably deliberate given how much this film relies on comedy to carry it.

[@omnipotentfaces1514]

They did that so Disney can make some subliminal positive messaging about it’s theme parks and can build a Thor area and products to sell.

[@hello_alpine1693]

@@_Tokenwhtguy It's just a Norwegian fishing town that came to house the refugee Asgardians after the snap, Thor was living there when Hulk and Rocket picked him up. The beginning is just Valkyrie opening tourist attractions

[@nikkikado4079]

@@_Tokenwhtguy I mean they’re using Norse god tech so that’s probably why

[@speetza6265]

Taika can make impactful and emotional moments land exceptionally well (Hunt for the Wilderpeople and Jojo Rabbit), but those moments are always given time to breathe and be absorbed. I felt most of the moments that fell flat did so because there wasn’t enough time to appreciate the scene before being rushed back into the action-comedy adventure stuff.

[@bohanxu6125]

I felt quite strongly the emotion from the ending. I don't really understand which specific part of the movie do people mean by not enough time to linger at emotional scene.

[@thedamneddamsel8518]

new asgard isn't a theme park, it's quite literally the new asgard. their people had to flee to somewhere after thanos, so they chose where thor last saw odin. we see this place in the previous Thor film as well as in endgame. it's just been a while and to help support her people, the new king decided to open it up to tourists and tour guides.

[@Randmiers]

Honestly I'm glad you included that section in the opening segment about holding onto opinions and how the mass influx of a singular popular opinion can even go as far as to gaslight people into changing their opinion. Because even tough I personally didn't enjoy love and Thunder aside from Gorr and that one battle where it's all black and white, I do appreciate it since some people do need to get reminded that different opinions exist and you don't need to feel bad for having a different one just because the need to fit in with someone else, or that just because someone has a different opinion, that doesn't make them wrong or bad compared to you.

[@catcat7910]

Honestly, yes! Reminds me of a little something that happened at school. Back then one of my teachers picked a movie for us to choose from since my class already finished the movie, Finding Nemo. One of the kids in my classroom picked another Pixar movie that wasn't very great, and neither looks good with its ratings. I wasn't very sure since I thought that I would have hated it. Especially after what I've heard. Though, after watching it I change my opinion. Sure, I've spotted some parts of the movie that not many people would have liked, but honestly, I was obsessed with it. I started to learn a little bit about separating opinions that each included my own. And honestly, It felt refreshing. Now, this doesn't imply everything but honestly, I think it would be better for people to begin seeing things for themselves other than relying on a popular opinion! Just thought it would be nice to share this

[@hypocriticalsatire3966]

Opinions like asshole. Why so many

[@kyleforbes6048]

This is very nitpicky, but the only problem I had with that section is that he showed CinemaWins instead of CinemaSins. The latter is definitely a channel that fits in this statement better.

[@blueismylove3128]

Why am I the only one who apparently didn't like the black and white battle? Like it literally just looks like a crappy black and white filter was put over the phone at times you can see the red in his cape when you weren't supposed to 😭. It felt like lazy editing to me.

[@mightyblue3426]

Nah, movie sucked big nuts.

[@goblingoovo6508]

My biggest hope is that they do some sort of director's cut since so much was apparently cut out from the movie. Throw in some more gorr screentime, maybe even some scenes of Jane faltering in battle with thor noticing something is off, but brushing it aside being in denial that something could be plaguing her, and just more room for genuine moments instead of a constant joke fest. It just felt that it was trying too hard to capture the spirit of ragnarok again but that kind of mood just really doesn't fit some of the subject matter in the movie. I can only imagine that it was Disney execs pushing for full on comedy like this and forcing the changes, but at the same time in every interview it seems that taika just really didn't care about making the movie. Which is honestly completely fine as I feel like constantly churning out mcu style movies really blows for these directors.

[@pagatryx5451]

I think the problem with the movie was the director... Taika, as you said, obviously didn't care and I didn't get the sense that we were missing much. It was just...crap?

[@TheGlamchic99]

The director said he doesn’t believe in directors cuts. So this likely will not happen

[@_Tokenwhtguy]

I have no interest in seeing the "Taika cut"

[@impposter560]

@@TheGlamchic99 "Doesn't believe in directors cuts"? Thats... bizarre. If someone really loves and is proud of their work, wouldn't they want to show all of it in the way they wanted, not only the parts they could fit into a corporate determined timeframe? Probably has more nuanced reasoning behind it but at a glance it sounds sad

[@iamAustinxD]

Apparently the 4 hour cut of this movie is supposed to be Monty Python esque. Dying to see that version if we ever get access to it

[@MikoYae115]

made me look behind me with that door knocking sound. scared the hell out of me ;-;

[@csubi907]

Same lol, i actually had to rewind the vid a bit to make sure it was in it lol.

[@rickshawwheelchair]

Yes

[@mickeymouse7726]

I liked Thor love and thunder as a romantic comedy with Thor and Jane my biggest problem is that they used gorr the god butcher as a villain and didn't use him to his full potential like the Jason Aaron thor comics did

One thing I don't see anyone else mentioning about this movie and that it bothers me to no end, is how bad the child actors are. Gorr's daughter comes back to life, sees her father die in front of her and her face is just 😐 Tony Stark's daughter had the same problem, her father just died, and she just looks bored at his funeral.

[@ApoorvaNair]

She just came back to life, maybe she was shocked... who knows

[@cdogthehedgehog6923]

Probably feels a little weird to have have come back to life with some of eternity's power. Still, anything would've been better than the nothing she brought.

[@RayValdezPhotography]

Everyone reacts different to death. As far as kids, even in real life who knows what they are processing. They might not get hit hard with death like an adult. It just depends. I always find it a weird criticism to tell people how they should handle grief. That was some of the logic behind people that harassed victims of mass shootings for not crying enough or can be used to say someone is the murder suspect for not having tears if a love one is murdered.

[@AnikMonette]

​@@RayValdezPhotographyAt least I can tell what's going on with someone's lack of reaction after a trauma, as you can see the life drained from them. Eyes speaks volumes, too. Some kids are planks of wood, or not allowed to act!

[@darlingtonatuba5910]

​@RayValdezPhotography what you're saying makes sense for the real world, but zero sense for a movie. At the end of the day, movies are meant to entertain us. Her showing no emotion wasn't entertaining, it was awkward and slightly cringe

[@aaronskuse2207]

I think this film would have worked better as a prequel set a thousand years before the first film and featured Odin and Hela. It could have explained the gods no longer being on earth since Gorr killed them all, and having Hela betray Odin to work with Gorr would explain how she’s able to use the necrosword ability and being sealed away Untill Ragnorak.

[@ninjanibba4259]

That would require creativity, care and thought

[@Judasinchains]

@@ninjanibba4259 3 things that the mcu no longer has

[@ninjanibba4259]

@@Judasinchains call me stupid, but I'm not ready to walk away just yet, as long as there future projects that could potentially turn it around from this rut, I'm sticking through it

[@nikkikado4079]

That would stray waaaay too far from the comics and would probably end up the same quality either way so it would just come out worse

[@theavastark6463]

Thor as a character is an amazing character that gives you chills. In the comics that is read one strip just one, in the mcu he's just a joke a clown used to make you laugh from his dead friends and dead family nothing is safe from tikas wrath

[@roulewave]

fun little fact that not too many people know: The god Gorr kills (Rapu) is played by Jonny Brugh, who also co-starred in Taika's other great movie "What We Do In The Shadows" (2014) as the character Deacon Brücke, and Jonny still does live shows as Deacon.

[@lonelylama5222]

I like your positive take on things. Even if you didn't love a movie, you can still say positive things about it. Keep doing what your doing!

[@EmmaDeez]

The knock at 5:00 was evil. Freaked the hell out of me, sitting in the dark, at midnight, with my headphones on...

[@impulze9067]

i about had a fuckin heart attack, it came through my right headphone speaker and theres a window to my right

[@FlawsEpochalypse]

I thought someone was knocking on my window dude

[@PartyDude_19]

I saw Thor Love & Thunder in theaters opening weekend. It was certainly a movie.

[@KalisShort]

I actually had my friend shaking me cause I was falling alseep

[@Mustansirtaher6]

My brother watched and he's like it's bad

[@liwiking.]

Nice to see someone just say that a film is good. Not amazing or awful. Totally agree

[@applejones1697]

Ewugh yuck . Toxic positivity is why we continue to get GARBAGE

[@Absolutecinemakinoscorceses]

I’m just gonna come out here and say it, I believe Christian Bale has the best villain performance in the MCU, highly underrated, and since he was in the dark knight, I wouldn’t be surprise if he took some inspiration from Heath Ledger’s joker.

[@Happyfoam-lw3yt]

He was pretty good, yeah... But Thanos (pre "young version" in Endgame) was hands down the best villain in the MCU. Hell, he's probably one of the best villains in cinematic history.

[@Absolutecinemakinoscorceses]

@@Happyfoam-lw3yt Yeah true I guess

[@ermacjones4821]

Loki was better than Thanos, and Loki wasn't anywhere near the best ever, so calm down. Marvel just made everything leading up to Thanos all stupidly epic and shit, it was designed to make you think he was a lot better than he actually was.

[@ermacjones4821]

These are Marvel movies, nowhere near the best at anything really. The quality is only going down from here too.

[@Absolutecinemakinoscorceses]

@@ermacjones4821 That’s true

[@keocooper]

That door knocking sound you used in the add haunted me for 30 minutes I was trying to figure who tf is knocking on my wall

[@Occidendum]

You don't need to be worthy to lift stormbreaker.

[@weezing1015]

17:46 Yes Elvis It's explicitly said earlier in the movie that the Pegasus can travel through wormholes

[@ariasity]

Looks like MCU Thor will be learning the same lessons over and over

[@dathomirpizzagirl9686]

The deleted scene of zeus giving thunderbolt to Thor literally wouldve improved the movie in every way possible

[@N-M-Kramer]

That scream on Thor's nudity was hilarious 😄

[@RIPandTEARB1TCHES]

My mum thought it was hot, dude, I was so embarrassed dude

[@teampeanuts8394]

@@RIPandTEARB1TCHES I mean, Thor is pretty hot

[@blueismylove3128]

Not to be that guy but I feel like if Thor was a woman we wouldn't be so hehe haha about that scene. It's incredibly outdated humor.

[@haltocarrick5504]

@@RIPandTEARB1TCHES She ain't wrong tho, he's damn fine

[@RIPandTEARB1TCHES]

@@haltocarrick5504 I guess so, but I'm not gae

[@Rhiggins5173]

Honestly Russell Crowe was the highlight of the movie for me. I didn't think he did an amazing job but he looked like he was actually having fun which is something I don't think I got from the rest of the cast.

[@gezz5904]

1:48 But when’s the last time HotDiggityDemon actually did a movie review? He makes incredibly entertaining and thoughtful introspective videos about himself and then titles them as though they’ll be movie reviews. I love him.

[@kyleforbes6048]

Also, CinemaWins? Bro, CinemaSins is the channel that fits better here.

[@goblingoovo6508]

@@kyleforbes6048 I think at this point (hopefully) most people have realized cinemasins is just pure trash and not a genuine way to gauge if a movie is good or not.

[@WhovianSentaiRiderFan]

@@goblingoovo6508 The motto for Cinema Sins is "No movie is without a sin".

[@asdergold1]

@@WhovianSentaiRiderFan I hope you start using your brain someday.

[@mikemorro140]

@@goblingoovo6508 I'm actually more shock people took the guys who were always meant to be extremely nitpicky as actual genuine critics

[@icetide9411]

Honestly, none of the other gods trying to help Zeus sounds pretty accurate. Especially with the lesser gods, lots of them have reasons to hate Zeus. The guy started as a kind of savior, but he progressively just became the sucky king no one liked.

[@_soothsayer_]

As much as I love guns n roses, the fact the child decided he wanted to be called Axl after "a cool band he's been listening to" did make me audibly groan in the theater. However other than that I enjoyed the movie. My dad couldn't stop laughing at the screaming goats and it didn't help when I showed him their inspiration, it was very wholesome actually

[@SteveEchelonanon]

It's a shame Thor didn't think to "borrow the Power of Thor" to anybody else at any time in the last few years. Could've come in handy. Hm.

[@user-tx4jg7yl7h]

As explained in the movie it is a power exclusive to Zeus's weapon, resembled also by the use of yellow lighting instead of the usual light blue one.

[@ninjanibba4259]

@@user-tx4jg7yl7h when was it explained? The kids getting powers came out of nowhere, that was never said

[@SteveEchelonanon]

@@user-tx4jg7yl7h What are you talking about? Thor borrowed "the power of thor" to every child during the final battle. That is something Thor can do because he's Odin's son. He can enchant their "weapons" the same way his Father enchanted mjolnir and he's done this quite a few times in the comics. None of that had anything to do with Zeus' thunderbolt, it's simply the weapon he was holding at the time and therefore became the conduit. He could've done the same thing with stormbreaker, just as Odin did with mjolnir.

[@user-to6fy9of9e]

@@ninjanibba4259 all the lighting is coming from Zeus’ bolt and is yellow. It’s clear it’s Zeus’ power

[@Franck_Lee]

The Thor franchise as been trought a lot in the last decade. Im not sure we can claim any 2 movies where alike either. Moving from serious to comical to complete cringe is, sadly, on brand.

[@minish8642]

to be honest after rewatching thor and... the dark world i realized how the tone for those movies are all over the place (similar to love and thunder) they try to be serious but they put dumb jokes at the same time

[@mikemorro140]

@@minish8642 I don't remember those films being that comedic hell I remember how people complained at the time of them being too dour and boring

[@danialtarki572]

Thor-Serious and mythological tone. Thor: The Dark World-Generic and deceptive. Thor: Ragnarok-Comedic and strangely weird heroic. Thor: Love And Thunder-All over the place.

[@mickeymouse7726]

I love the first Thor movie it's flawed but it's the only one that gets the Thor character right in my opinion other than his role in infinity war where his probably the most accurate to the comics in my opinion

[@NoobTheNewt0987]

Thor 1 was a good and enjoyable movie, Thor TDW tried to be better than the original but was generic and fell flat, Thor ragnorok learnt from TDW's mistakes and improved on some aspects, and Thor L and T tried to be better than Ragnorok but just failed. If Disney follows the pattern, Thor 5 will be a good movie.

[@salvageartstudios]

I died the goat screams was sadly half the script😭😭😭

[@frogofalltime]

tbf I think a lot of superhero movies are just fine now. not great. not awful. I used to absolutely adore them but god I'm tired.

[@ag23415]

When Axel first appeared, I leaned over to my friend in the theater and whispered these four words: "200 million dollar movie."

[@cliftonsargent1572]

Perfect Just watched it and I will respectfully disagree, I thought this was awful in every way. I love you Elvis and will always be a fan even if we disagree good sir

[@Bea-a-deer]

Thank you for confirming that the problem with loading Disney + is because of Disney. My partner swears it’s our internet, despite never having a problem on other apps. An argument has been settled.

[@Jurassic_Jake2019]

THANK GOD, I like the movie but it isn’t perfect, but it isn’t horrible either like everyone in the internet is saying

[@TheZombie567]

nah bruh, it was cheeks

[@thejasminedragonmerchant6843]

I've seen plenty of terrible films. Thor: Love and Thunder isn't completely terrible, but Elvis summed up my feelings on it pretty succinctly: it's meh. It's enjoyable in parts but overall it's not a fantastic product. I definitely wasn't fond of the dialogue for this film, it felt rushed and out of place for most of the runtime (and the cancer conversation Jane had with Thor was NOT handled well IMO).

[@gregoryl.levitre9759]

It is trash. You just have awful taste.

[@Jurassic_Jake2019]

@@gregoryl.levitre9759 I didn’t ask

[@RobocopStealerOfFridges]

The main thing I have the problem with is that they introduced a new hero (at least in terms of Superheros, I know that she appeared earlier in the MCU) only to kill her off at the end.

[@applejones1697]

I'm glad. She was honestly terrible. So bad.

[@fluctuations23]

That knocking at 5:00 actually scared the shit out of me. It was very unexpected, I thought I was somehow getting a knock through my wall 😂

[@soggysandwich112]

yeah man same holy hahaha

[@chees3pod139]

I watched this in theaters over the summer and was ACTUALLY falling asleep. THAT BEING SAID, i like Gorr the most out of this movie.

[@john2g1]

I finally got my thoughts on Morbius... It was everything we were afraid the first Venom movie was going to be. Turns out it was significantly better, but Morbius was exactly what we had feared. Which raises the question since Venom came out first how's it possible that Morbius was screwed up so badly? Fox/Disney could have hired the same screenwriters, directors, etc? Side note I'm getting tired of the comparison between Gorr and Voldemort. Voldemort has a nose (slits) the same way a snake has a nose. In fact that's the whole point he's a Slytherin snake wizard kind of guy. Gorr on the other hand just had a slight bump on his face and tentacles coming out of the back of his head which is significantly different.

[@darianstarfrog]

Exactly!

[@FrostyFrosto]

Imagine Jane foster replaced Thor in that scene with Zeus.

[@devilsknight]

the reeeeing would have been deafening

[@TheUnapologeticGeek]

Thank you for reminding me that there are things to like about this movie. I felt roughly the same way as you when I left the theater, but I think I slowly fell victim to the groupthink afterwards. It's a flawed movie, to be sure, but it's definitely not a garbage fire.

[@mowfus96]

Gorr (and his daughter) can hold Stormbreaker because it was never enchanted. Odin put an enchantment on Mjolnir so that only whoever is worthy can hold it, but nothing like that was ever cast on Stormbreaker so anyone can hold it (remember when Groot held it in Infinity War?).

[@grkpektis]

I agree with all your points I just have one thing to add why did this movie act like the sword cursed Gorr to die like that's a bad thing? If he didn't have the sword he would've died anyway and wouldn't of gotten revenge and brought his daughter back. Sounds like a blessing to me. In the comics it's implied that the gods didn't abandon Gorr they were just too busy fighting the previous sword wielder to help him

[@jayceallen6530]

This movie felt like such a waste of time for me, the worst part was definitely how cool gorr was for small moments, he was the only character i was interested in watching the movie

[@TwentyPercentDash]

Elvis really upped his editing. I'm impressed :)

[@ncisfan1002]

A few things you missed: -Zeus didn't die, he's a God and only Gorr's weapon can kill gods -Valkyrie didn't die lmao, she was just incapacitated for the rest of the movie -Thor giving the power to the kids and the Tree of Life thing. The Tree of Life is shown in the movie briefly in the beginning (I believe it was either an image in a book or on the spine of a book?)

[@petermj1098]

Lol Why didn’t Thor give people his power during Endgame or Infinity War? Why didn’t Thanos just get Stormbreaker instead of the stones? It would be way more easier for Thanos to kill half of life. That just add more plot holes to the universe

[@mattmings903]

theres probably a ton of other comments saying this but, Gor is able to carry and use storm breaker because it was never enchanted by odin like mjolnir was, thus anybody could use it., same with Gor's daughter

[@Cloud-rx8zl]

I'm really happy you tackled this movie and for your opening section about opinions, I personally enjoyed this movie a lot even with its flaws, but nowadays people can't handle that others have different opinions and will crucify you for thinking something they hate is even remotely enjoyable, heck besides CinemaWins pretty much I haven't seen a single positive said about this movie so it's good to find some different perspectives!

[@gregoryl.levitre9759]

Too bad he ignored all of the objective complaints, which is most of the complaints that people have for the trash movie.

[@Cloud-rx8zl]

I mean he doesn't have to talk about every single thing about every movie and he still pointed out a lot of things that he found bad about the movie while bringing up what he enjoyed so what's the problem? we've heard people talk about the negatives since the movie came out so why not talk about different points? it's all his opinion anyways and if you think it's trash then cool but he just has a different opinion

[@adityaunnava4304]

By that logic, Catwoman is also a perfectly fine movie if you ignore all the flaws. And his opinions thing is innately wrong cuz the ppl saying it's bad are also putting out their own opinions. Turns out majority of the ppl had a bad opinion of it as it has major flaws and so it's widely regarded a bad movie, which it is.

[@TheEldritchGod]

Well, that's only because you are evil and every time you post, god kills a puppy. otherwise people totally tolerate your opinion that is WRONG. YER WRONG. How could you enjoy this you MONSTER? It is people like you who sacked Rome and brought about a thousand years of darkness! How dare you have an opinion that does not perfectly match with mine? I'd tweet about you, except that your friend Elon must took over and is promoting free speech, just like the tyrant he is! I am literally shaking right now!

[@Cloud-rx8zl]

I mean The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is objectively a messy movie and yet it still has people that like those movies because of certain aspects, a movie can be widely regarded as terrible but still have its fans because saying something has absolutely no redeeming qualities feels dramatic, just like for Love and Thunder people can enjoy it while still acknowledging its flaws (like this video does), I'm only saying that opinions aren't black and white all the time

[@robertmortimer8288]

It was great that Christian Bale varied Gorr's voice depending on the context, just a sign of great acting ability!

[@SmoothBrainVids]

Sif gets told that she can't enter Valhalla if she died after the fight had ended, so how did Jane get into Valhalla when she died after the battle had ended. Like that got me and I couldn't stop thinking about it after watching that movie

[@judeconnor-macintyre9874]

I think it's because she died in a battle with cancer. Or maybe Thor just lied to Sif because he didn't want her to die.

[@SmoothBrainVids]

@judeconnor-macintyre9874 that'd make sense

[@abelendecody1]

This is a very refreshing take on this movie and not how every other review is about how it was a dumpster fire and that every little thing is a nip pick

[@TheReySkywalker]

Disney+ is perfectly working for me? Never buffers, doesn’t have to load to rewind or fast forward… maybe your internet is just bad?

[@AbdulMoeed-y8q]

I saw someone's review that compared why Thor Ragnarok worked while this one didn't and I think they explained the problems with this movie well enough. Also why Thor felt weird in this one

[@gregoryl.levitre9759]

Ragnarok also doesn't work.

[@herdiansyah9982]

I think thor is allright in L&T. The problem here is just the writing

[@hazelsingh3887]

what was the channel? kinda interested to watch the review because i liked ragnarok but was underwhelmed by love and thunder, even though i went in with no expectations.

[@AbdulMoeed-y8q]

@@hazelsingh3887 its cuebel ramble.

[@AbdulMoeed-y8q]

@@herdiansyah9982 yeah, the video i'm talking mentioned another reason that i kinda agree with. He said it's also cause of what happened between Ragnarok and L&t. After Ragnarok, we've seen thor in infinity war and endgame where he was actually serious. Yes, he made jokes but it wasn't the type of jokes that made him look like an idiot

[@moistwrmonastring1017]

I loved the ending, that Jane ended up in Valhalla despite not dying IN battle, because her battle with cancer was enough. That was really sweet! And the scene with Eternity was amazing, and I liked Gorr! His powers were epic! But I didn’t like too much else 🙁

[@starling1226]

Ok I know I already made a comment, but about the cancer thing. In the second Thor movie, Jane mentioned that the Asgardian technology/magic could cure cancer (I think) and they just smile at her… I thought they were supposed to protect the nine realms? Including Earth (Midgard) Why did they just brush it off?? People are dying painfully and they just ignore the fact that they could help prevent it?? Not a single Asgardian thought to try and help? And they make fun of “mortals”. Also of course Stark could make a cure, but I think he believes in “there’s no money in a cure” I don’t care what anyone says otherwise.

[@Dgffea]

It’s the only movie I have seen in years where I wanted to buy another ticket and rewatch

[@keyboardcowgirl69]

valkyrie distracting thor when trying to comfort a demon gullet-full of children , made you laugh? the grenade bit, made you laugh? each to their own but …idk what did you do to your brain to make you like this stuff, im jealous

[@renzocabarco472]

The editing on the Disney+ tirade has been better than the editing on any of the phase 4 movies

[@ambi_cakes]

I was waiting for your review and as always, I wholeheartedly agree. I watched this movie when it came out and while yeah, some things weren't great, I enjoyed it. Then every single person started shitting on it and saying it was the worst movie ever. I was kind of confused and even started doubting myself.

[@mikemorro140]

@lordvageta sayain that still meansn enjoyable to be fair

[@lizzydee1784]

It's like with the Bay Transformers movies. They're pretty goofy but I still enjoy them lol

[@ninjanibba4259]

@lordvageta sayain other words "Don't ask questions, just consume products" aka accept mediocrity cuz you'll like it anyway....

[@nikkikado4079]

@lordvageta sayain I mean its a movie…it’s supposed to be enjoyed. If you criticise everything intensely like you’re getting paid to do it then that’s kind of on you

[@wurmrave6831]

I really respect you for putting out your opinion out on this platform, even if I disagree and really despise love and thunder. Im glad we can have a discussion

[@orochi52]

That whole intro is how I feel about Smile. Too many people swear it's a great movie and I'm just wondering if we watched the same movie because it was not good.

[@levinyman8790]

Oh my god the door knocking during the ad absolutely freaked me out… I was outside in the dark trying to unlock my door and all of a sudden: Knock Knock Knock

[@iprovedthem5527]

I really enjoyed this movie, but my wife and I did see why it would upset, frustrate or annoy people. I like the way the movies lean into the absurdity of a God being a superhero and characterising Thor as being kind of a dumbass who can't read the room worked for me. I feel like it could for sure have taken it's themes more seriously however, it was definitely lacking in that department.

[@damienlarson4145]

I'll admit, the god of dumplings did make me smile.

[@afriendofepicproportions]

When the tired jokers came into the comment section and said 'it's tired joking time' and copy-pasted the same Morbius meme over and over, I rolled my eyes and sighed. Definitely one of the moments I wish would pass already

[@zachary_underscore]

The only thing i have a problem with is when you said the Gorr yada yada carrying Stormbreaker. I get Thor said welding it can break a mortal’s mind and all that but it’s not like Stormbreaker has the same enchantment where “only he who is worthy” can lift it.

[@cdogthehedgehog6923]

I honestly loved Jane's enthusiasm about being a superhero and her shitty one liners.

[@AntsTheaterCorner2698]

Eat my hammer is the dumbest thing I've heard from a superhero film. It's like Joel Schumacher levels of bad.

[@lorenzomag1980]

The door knocking sounds during the sponsor section nearly killed me. My poor heart

[@Occidendum]

I loved when gorr killed the god in the beginning and said it's Gorrin' time.

[@ee3171]

dead meme

[@peronafanman]

@@ee3171 Bruh u a dead meme

[@vergeking]

I loved it when Thor said, “it’s Thoring time” and the entire movie turned to trash, bravo taika

[@gregoryl.levitre9759]

The movie was trash from the get-go.

[@vergeking]

@@gregoryl.levitre9759 true…

[@chriscarter4563]

About the rewinding on Disney plus, if you’re using a remote you have to hit the arrow once, then hit it again to select the actual progress bar and then you can scrub the video instead of doing the 10s increments. I was doing the same thing trying to rewind something the other night lol and my girlfriend was like no you gotta do it like this.

[@phankey6289]

bro the dr. squatch "theyll show up right at your door" sound effect made me jumo in my chair i thought someone was knocking on my window

[@Sharktankgaming]

Shadows cannot exist without light.... 😬 Also, Crowe is doing an Australian-Greek fruiterer/stereotypical accent. It's spot on lol a lot of comedians here do the same thing. I ignored reviews and went in with my kids to the cinema, excited after Ragnarok. Unfortunately, even my 5 year old was bored and thought it sucked. He loved Ragnarok and watches it all the time. It's telling how bad it was. I really wish it didn't suck. I'm not shitting on you Elvis, I like your stuff :)

[@Joannefibracs9994]

I saw this well before all the reviews you listed came out, and was extremely underwhelmed. It was confused on what it wanted to be and just wasn’t strong. At least I’ll watch Ragnarok over and over and be beyond happy. This was just unfortunate

[@mmus13898]

I saw the thumbnails for both of The Critical Drinker’s reviews for this movie and decided to go watch them after watching this video and idk man, he made a lot of really good points about this movie.

[@chaserseven2886]

Nobody should trust a drunk man's opinion

[@Gannoh]

@@chaserseven2886 ironically the only way the movie can be seen as anything other than atrocious is through consuming copious amounts of liquor

[@NobleRaider2747]

> critical drinker yeah no

[@m_ridae]

Isn’t that the guy who blames everything on wokeness?

[@Gannoh]

@@m_ridae no

[@Sheks1]

THE DOOR KNOCKING SOUND AFFECT AT 4:59 GAVE ME FIGHT OR FLIGHT AS IT WAS IN THE RIGHT CHANNEL WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT FOR ME RIGHT NEXT TO MY WINDOW AND I THOUGHT IT WAS SOMEONE BANGING ON MY WINDOW, 2 MINUTES LATER AND IM JUST NOW STARTING TO CHILL

[@aidansharp5244]

Heidmals powers were handled much better in Thor: Ragnorok tbh, they didn’t look like a cgi portal, but actually transferred the vision of others allowing them to see through Heidmalls eyes, and vise-versa.

[@ennasadnan6674]

christan bale did a great job at carrying this movie, if only they didn't waste his scenes

[@Laramaria2]

I wish there was more compromise with the heavy themes. The potential was there, but I agree, it's an "OK" movie. I had a good time.

[@Guaseth]

Finally!! Someone says it! It is not a great movie, but it is NOT terrible either, I enjoyed myself watching it, at the very least, I can say I had fun, unlike a certain other recent MCU project...

[@gregoryl.levitre9759]

It's trash.

[@mait4051]

7:46 technically in the marvel universe Norman Osborn did create the cure for cancer, but for use as a weapon to kill deadpool by removing the cancer which keeps his healing factor in check.

[@potato_onfire8003]

The before the “fix” had me burst out in laughing

[@DarkAttackYT]

Tbf, if it weren't for Disney+, I wouldn't have been able to watch Lost which instantly became one of the ONLY tv shows that I actually loved and binged until the end.