Thoughts on why "overqualification" might raise a flag to employers.

[@rossmanngroup]

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[@GeekBoy03]

You posted this link 8 months ago, but yet made a video back in , what, 2013 on "Why we stopped selling on eBay, and why you should also"

[@georgemartin1436]

Yes you are right, and the reasons you went over are valid reasons to not hire someone who is overqualified. Also, you are taking on the previous system said employee worked under, that may well conflict with your own. I worked as a technician under a commission system, which negated any "overqualification" issues. We made 40% of billed labor, and if a unit came back, it came out of your pay. This way, we didn't have anybody shlocking units out the door. IF you could show that an outside problem caused the issue, you'd not lose they pay. Another benefit to the commission system was that a $hitty tech would just leave, instead of starving. Further, we had EXCELLENT customer service, which avoided "redos"....

[@ChadDidNothingWrong]

IMO it's not so much that they "know better"-sometimes they may. Problem is *they always know better* ...on every single little thing.

[@jamesgreen9954]

I ran my own small company for over 20yrs and always thought most over qualified people should be looked at as temporary employees. Mostly because they will continue to look for a better paying job and they know they can make more if there truly over qualified . Also I believe small businesses are more successful at keeping good people if the employees are treated like friends or family instead of just employees. I think this comes from having to interact with all your employees daily in a small business instead of always having a manager or someone do if for you. Hiring good employees can be tricky for sure.

[@RazorM97]

Louis Rossmann I think that they do that because they think that an over prepared person isn't capable to sustain itself without school and learn without it

[@DigGil3]

Long story short: If you have many qualifications, either seek a job where many qualifications are required or only mention the qualifications useful for the lowly job you want to take.

[@the0cutest0baby]

Thats exactly what i do Dumb down my resume when i need a part time job

[@aorusaki]

@@the0cutest0baby lol ok

[@radnukespeoplesminds]

I am hella unemployed I think I have to take my engineering degree out of my resume. kinda makes me feel like shit, but I guess it's what I have to do.

[@grazzer88]

@@radnukespeoplesminds I had that when i left uni, i graduated in 2009 right on the cusp of the financial crash. Was wondering why i couldn't get a job, took my degree out of my CV and within a few weeks i was getting contacted regularly for interviews at entry level positions. Finding a job in my actual industry was impossible because new hires were liabilities and the various industries were being saturated with middle aged folk with tons of experience all willing to take pay cuts to keep their career alive. Then, once i had a job, things were easier. But damn, being discriminated against precisely because of my further education was really the opposite of what i was expecting after leaving school.

[@garyvlahos635]

radnukespeoplesminds Yup ... “dumbing down” a resume can be extremely helpful. I applied for a company which manufactured medical devices -the workplace was a production area on a factory floor -lots of loud machines and a dusty environment. I revised my resume and did not include that I had worked for IBM for and a large financial firm . Instead , I mentioned and focused on my stints as a construction/labourer worker and reminded them that I am excellent at working with my hands ( a slight exaggeration) . Fast forward to present day , and I’ve been employed at this same company for 10 years and all the promotions and salary raises in that period of time . I’m making as much money today as I would be if I stayed at a “business suit and tie” job , except I have more job security at current job because not many prefer working in a loud , dusty environment ( we wear N-95 masks on the production floor ) . Best thing I ever did was to dumb down my resume 👍

[@alzoron]

I take jobs I'm overqualified for because I don't like the stress that the higher qualification jobs require. I've had enough stress in my life already and I want to minimize it wherever I can. This has the effect of making me much happier, fulfilled, and pleasant to be around.

[@Tim-is-short]

I couldn't have explained it better myself. My happiness is far more valuable than my salary. But I'm still a dick.

[@DJzSith]

Dont you ever feel bored? Or that you are just wasting your time? I lose interest in a job quickly after I can do it competently and with confidence. If it does not challange me, to learn new things, to form new abilities or to reach beyond my curent expertise, It feel like a chore, and depressing. I felt like that when in just 8 months working at a dealership I got 3 raises and was making more then employees who had been there since it opened. That was my first job, first time I tried geting a job, did not graduate yet. First time I went to a job interview, got hired *(note).... It felt like a prison too, when I did not know, how not to look like im slacking off after finishing all my work in just 2 hours when working at a small engineering company, when I chose an entirely different new field and job which I knew only basic theory and had zero experince, only to find after an exhilarating 4 month rush of learning and experimenting I realized that I have nothing more I need to know to do my job, and that my job lacks variation or any career shift potental as it was ridiculously speciliazed. Right now I just quit working at a top tier company after I helped them develop a vehicle component, I was supposed to look after it, all platforms and variants, from prototype to series production for the next 20+ years. FUCK THAT, the fun stuff is over, from now on, you just change a mm here, a mm there, move a hole, a decimal in the part number and have to be in eternal meeting hell with supliers and manufacturers. NOPE! Nex week I am starting at new company, new job, new things to do. I hope I get to enjoy this for as long as it can take me. *(note) Maybe that should have been the first warning sing rigth there. Even later on, when I looked for more demanding positons, I still got the job on the first interview. I turned down more job offers then I applied. Either: 1) in my own weird way, I seek jobs for which I am overqualified; 2) this generation bitches way too much about how hard it is to get a job and how nobody hires fresh students with no experience; 3) I accepted lower salary then all the other suited candidates, every time. Which is the option that scares me the most... Maybe afterwards I will stop and finally set up shop somewhere, and I feel like this new job will be well suited to develop some money making skills of my own. I am good worker, but a terrible leader and horrible business man. But I got tired of working for other people. Boss gets a new S class, I ride in my old 3 series that shows where the money goes....

[@connor040606]

William Lesco I am the same way. Less stress, more happiness with maybe a bit less money. A worth trade off in my mind.

[@GundamReviver]

This honestly. and usually i have time left where others would still be working. if i feel "bored" i usually try to think of things to do things better, or make small improvements to make my, or my co workers lives easier. there is always -something- to do. as long as you dont mind looking for it. so yeah, sure, slightly less pay, but also less responsibillities. sometimes you just have a shit week, but you can still do good on your job, because its less high stress. on the good weeks? sure you blaze through it with no problems, but then you just find yourself something to do. it keeps life nice and simple and happy.

[@taunokekkonen5733]

Dude, you don't say "happier, fulfilled and pleasant" on this channel. You say "Happier. Fitter. More productive".

[@steeltwistercoaster]

I have a master's and get called overqualified but with no experience at the same time, welcome to my nightmare world

[@hassanbeydoun2460]

And then people tell others who have _a_ masters degree or _multiple_ master degrees: "Go for a doctorate degree, you'll have a higher chance of getting a job" Which is true _in a sense_ but not always lol I imagine in your case that is happening now😅

[@jonathangarzon2798]

Lol the problem is you're under the impression that college is worth anything. I specifically do NOT hire anyone who went to college beyond engineers (due to legal requirements). Always a liability and the worst workers bar none. I

[@hobgoblin4614]

Or you get the Masters and then they say you need experience. It's like a catch 22 on many occasions.

[@emem8673]

@@jonathangarzon2798 wdym?

[@ArmasReverence]

Well, a lot of employers see Masters degree with no exp as someone who couldn't make the cut after undergrad in terms of real world knowledge and applied skills. This problem doesn't exist your whole life, just the first job.

[@zlovredniyTip]

Resume is an art piece and has to be tweaked depending on employer.

[@beckerzineo]

I hate resumes seriously, I know it's a necessary first filter but to me it's just lazyness out of employers, if they were really caring about who they hire they would get people who are kinda preselected, like Louis says

[@randomstuff1139]

Beckerzinho are resumes not a form of preselection ?

[@ffatheranderson]

When I see someone talking such things (these resume Gurus) about tweaking resume in a special manner AND GET PAID FOR IT - :) I always think to myself "what a bullshit, you are just a shit talker and you want to convince me that you possess some skill that I do not and you want to convince me that after I pay you for "IMPROWING" my resume I will find a job of my dream...". :)

[@ffatheranderson]

@Stephen Paddock no it does not(atleast not for me). And I am having good job and never expirienced issues with finding a job. I never used those bullshit shit talkers services, but I have spoken to many, and That is why I call them that way. :) Useless bullshit spills out of their mouths, probably out of your too. :)

[@WatchLearnGrowRepeat555]

Great video with some very valid points made in it. I remember when I was to be interviewed for a job in a bank in Canada, the gentleman who was to interview me took me to a mall across the street from the bank branch where the interview was supposed to take place. So we crossed the street and walked over to the mall and went to the food court and he bought me a coffee and we went and sat down on a table and just started chatting. He appeared to be genuinely interested in my life and my background and how I landed in a small town in the Prairies in Canada a long way away from Karachi, Pakistan. He asked me about my family, my mom and dad and my sisters and my nephews and nieces and how living in Canada was different from living in Pakistan and what I found that I liked more in Canada and what I liked more in Pakistan. After all that he asked me about the bank that I was earlier working at and why was I thinking about switching employers. I was honest with him in that I want to move to a bigger bank. He immediately pointed out that he appreciated the fact that in order to win his job I was not bad mouthing the previous one which was also a competition. This chitchat went over for about 30 minutes and then he brought the meeting to an end. I was surprised because he did not ask me anything about my job or about banking and he reply was "I have read your resume. I want to meet the person behind it". This interview happened in 2006 and today is 2019 and I still have so much respect for the gentleman. He was a true leader and not juat a boss. Unfortunately a year into working for him I had to resign and move back to Pakistan to take care of my father who was diagnosed with cancer.

[@neuemage]

I always have to lie and say I dont have college to avoid being told Im overqualified (because employer is afraid im gonna ask for more pay or give him flak on running his business) dude i just want to eat and pay my bills

[@smelly42]

@@user-js2dr9gv1u you would be surprised. When i was looking for a job after being let go by a company that was doing "restructuring" aka going bankrupt without telling stockholders, I couldn't find another job in the field UNTIL I took off some of my certifications from my resume. There are no jobs for educated skilled IT workers. all they want are $15 an hour first timers. You gotta play the broken capitalist game to survive in current corporate controlled America.

[@user-sw1wq8lh2w]

@@smelly42 you need new markets, I see jobs for $130k+ for expert IT, depends what field exactly.

[@Tylonfoxx]

*because employer is afraid im gonna ask for more pay or give him flak on running his business* 9/10 times, that's not the reason depending on what kind of job you have.... It's more likely that they want to be sure that you don't leave for other opportunities withing a short time span. Employers are well aware that, if you stay, you'll likely accept the salary. However they're also aware if you find something better, you'll leave right away. You're considered a "hair-trigger" employee - the first opportunity you get, you'll leave, and having to search for new employees is much more expensive than keeping someone on for a few years...

[@fetchstixRHD]

@Jacob Votava: Even at that, I personally wouldn't even suggest "lying" and saying you haven't done something when you have, although if you don't mention something that isn't directly asked for that's fine from my view...

[@pinchyh]

Louis you're forgetting your train of thought because of lack of sleep. 4-5 hours daily is not enough. I devloped a myriad of health problems when I overworked and was getting that amount of sleep.

[@demoniack81]

Agree, I've never seen anyone forget what they're saying while literally saying it. It's not normal.

[@Acdeportivo2]

6-7 hrs?? Thoughts

[@CaptianSwan]

As far as I know required sleep is at least partially genetically dependent, some people are fine with 7. Basically no one is going to be running optimally with less than 7 though.

[@FrankTheTank1007]

Or he has other things going on and an invasive thought sidetracked him. Or maybe even he just has some kind of attention deficit disorder

[@charlieoconnor40]

@@demoniack81 high functioning manic. 1 of millions. ;)

[@RM-of4bu]

I feel ya, I'm a college educated toilet cleaner, but since my boss is a super nice guy I leave the attitude at home. He's fully aware that this is not where I want to be but also that you have to start somewhere when you move to a different country. He gave me a chance and I apreciate it a lot.

[@Vinni-2K]

im happy for you that you have a nice boss at least i worked for one (three if you count his mother and brother, although everyone was the same) for a year and it was hell. i even got depressed at the end but was too scared to quit, but eventually i did and im feeling so much better already, even if i didnt have a job for the past 3 months

[@cesar333]

I am a maintenance supervisor in aircraft maintenance. Mainly avionics. I have worked with all sorts of people who have had a "reset" in their careers. Where they must have spent 20 years working in one company and found themselves working at 1/4 the pay with kids who are just starting their career at another company. Everyone has something to offer, even the person who is "over qualified". I try to utilize their experience to my own benefit. There is always something i can do better by learning from someone else. You will never be your own teacher.

[@effexon]

Many employees cannot see how this rich experience base benefits company and team, but nonmeasurable way. Those small things can be factor why people enjoy working there and dont leave (eg someone talking good stories on coffee break or similar).

[@DanielDogeanu]

Well, maybe the reason they're willing to work for less money, even though they are overqualified, is that they want a less stressful job. I would certainly do that and in fact it's what I'm doing right now. Because I got sick at my past job as a Web Developer for dealing with insane deadlines. The more money you want and the more capable you are, the more people expect of you and the more work they'll give you. And I failed to keep up with all that work, got sick and they kicked me in the butt for that, looking at me as a traitor. So now I have to find something that's not so demanding, but that would still allow me to pay my bills and to have a roof over my head. Though, if you do what I do, you should always remember why the hell you got hired at that job in the first place and don't resent those people you work with, because it's not their fault.

[@crankyboris]

You're absolutely right, but it goes both ways, my work ethic wouldn't allow me to behave in a resentful way, but when the boss is paying you a third your worth AND acting like he's doing you a favor, well that's just asking for insubordination.

[@StorytellingHeadshots]

If you’re “worth” more... then don’t take that job at that rate. But if you take it, don’t moan and resent the employer because he’s not paying you what YOU are worth.., it’s what the job you are doing is worth.

[@mitchelldavis482]

"I feel that the most organic and natural way to meet new employees is to just talk to people who are in your business." If people took this approach with romantic relationships (talking to people with whom you have things in common, or already know well, instead of eg deciding to date some arbitrary person you just met) then the average relationship would be of a much greater caliber and duration.

[@icedwhitechocolatemochafra9851]

Yeah or ruin a good friendship.

[@SherrifOfNottingham]

Kinda sucks for all the people looking to get into the business but have no connections yet. Just like it sucks for the people who don't have a whole lot of social experience and thus don't make very many friends, especially including those of their sexual preference. That mentality isn't necessarily a bad one, it just doesn't encompass the entire community of people around you. If Rossman doesn't hire trainable newbies he might miss out on some fantastic employees. Just like if you stick to only dating your friends then you might miss out on some fantastic dates.

[@eragon78]

That would help make more loyal employees, but its bad overall for society. This leaves introverts and people who arent very people savy out of the loop entirely. Even if they are highly qualified. To be honest, this is largely how a lot of the world works already anyways. you need a recommendation to even really be seriously considered at most places. You can still find work with no personal recommendations but its very difficult.

[@notmyopinion4981]

trueeee.... i hate when someone says: 'just go to a bar or a disco or this party' to meet someone, when this isn't even your natural places to be....

[@olivercrosby1535]

Had this problem with my last job, thankfully the interviewers first comment was that there is allot on your C.V. (Resume) As soon as he said that I knew I had to do some damage control, in essence I spelled out that the timing of the job was the important factor for me and that even though I'm over qualified it suited me. Video is spot on it's not always easy to bring up but if you want the job you need to address the employers concerns. "Why are you here?"

[@BrickworksDK]

"Why are you at my door?" Weeellllll... Could be that the job-marked is currently oversturated and I have to lower my expectations to get a job, even if it pays less. Could be that, having done the same for years and years, I want to try something else, even if it pays less. Could be that I don't want the hassle of running my own company and would rather work for you, even if it pays less. Could be that my previous job was stressing me out so badly that I'm now looking for a less intensive work environment, even if it pays less. In other words, while I do agree that overqualification can be a bad thing in some circumstances, I can see plenty of legitimate reasons for why it might happen.

[@aorusaki]

facts

[@SherrifOfNottingham]

I had a class A CDL, this got me turned down from a pizza delivery job that I needed at the time as I was fighting with a previous company who had put an accident on my record to protect one of their other drivers. The pizza place didn't even care about the MVR, they never looked it up, they said I was over qualified and turned me down. Worst part? Because I was unable to get that job, or get the situation worked out with the other company I haven't been able to get a job since I'm not part of the rising unemployment rate either, the rate doesn't include people in employment limbo. If you haven't taken a job in a certain period of time they assume you aren't looking and you fall off the unemployment rate. Problem is I'm now overqualified for pretty much any position I look for due to having a CDL, and nobody will look twice at me.

[@effexon]

I dont understand why masters of humanities would be overqualified to apply for Louis' shop (just example, not literally mean that), but it sadly seems so. People are stuck in their careers.

[@effexon]

@@SherrifOfNottingham Now there's your reason why everyone has incentive to lie. overqualified to get any job, underqualified for ludacris requirements. nobody benefits from this. Well psychopaths and sociopaths,conmen will, coz it is much easier for them.

[@STScott-qo4pw]

sometimes a change is better than what we had. everyone, good luck!

[@ian1352]

I find it amusing when companies complain about lack of employee loyalty, i.e. employees doing what benefits them regardless of the impact on the company, when companies have no loyalty towards their employees. Also many businesses act like they're doing someone a favour by hiring them. They're unable to recognise that those people are vital to their business. If they weren't the business wouldn't need employees.

[@LeoH3L1]

Tell me about it, I've left a decent job over that, and it's not always about pay either, personally I don't like when I'm lied to right to my face, and basically gaslighted, so I walked.

[@Stszelec01]

Company is doing what companies are doing in capitalism ok Employee do what employer shoud do in capitalism Company reeeee you can't do that

[@ir0n2541]

I'm overqualified for my position, i have a bachelors degree and two masters degrees and a few certificates, and i get paid far less than what i believe i'm worth. However; i'm the first person to arrive at work and the last person to leave, i'm open minded and don't carry an entitled aura or exhibit a passive aggressive attitude towards my colleges, i think people who attend university have an expectation at the end that they should have an upper hand in the work place, which is mostly attributed to universities themselves painting a false pictures for the students. I believe looking only at over qualification is the incorrect approach, instead the personality of the person is far more important, when i interview potential candidates i focus far more on their attitude and personality than i do on what they know, another point is management itself, a businesses objective is to make profit, i've worked with businesses where they would squeeze everything out the employee and make the employee fight tooth and nail for a minor raise even when the business could comfortably allocate a raise without any noticeable financial impact to the business, so that attitude of the business is equally as important as the employees.

[@gorgefood9867]

What degrees do you have? A lot of degrees aren't even useful as toilet paper.

[@klystron2010]

@@gorgefood9867 can confirm, my ass hurts

[@chrisb1975]

When I have been in a position of interviewing and helping make decisions I found myself looking at this top ways. 1. The two Masters degrees and PhD means exactly $&?@ unless it's truly directly related to the job. If it is directly related I am going to challenge you on it to find out if your university actually taught you things that translate outside of academia. 2. I have more concern about someone with vast practical real world experience with lots of solid leadership experience in those areas. My concern has always been whether it's fair and right to hire someone into a lower level position where they are qualified to be senior leadership. It was never because I felt threatened, it was more about not wanting to hire someone into a position where they would be absolutely miserable and ultimately hate the job and the company. The "overqualified" person that is looking to take an easier road in order to take care of their family or reduce their stress level has almost always been a good hire. They are wanting to dial things way back. I have asked them if they would be willing on occasion to offer their advice if asked and most have been open to it.

[@jagc2206]

When tech companies ask for more years in a technology than the technology exists for.

[@batman1776]

That's because what they actually want is to not fill the job and to get an H1B visa.

[@FiNiTe_weeb]

oh? what do you mean you dont have 15 years of experience with rust????

[@eragon78]

@@batman1776 if companies are hiring low skilled immigrants for a job, its intentional. They're doing it because they dont care about the skill qualifications, and low skilled immigrants will usually work for very low pay and can be easily replaced if the company ever decides it. Its not immigrants coming in taking your jobs because they're bad people. Its companies that are giving immigrants your jobs because they wanna save a few bucks and provide shitty products than pay a higher wage to more qualified workers.

[@nerwin]

I got told I was overqualified when applying for a job at a local supermarket when I was 16. Haha.

[@SexycuteStudios]

At 18, I was told by a local McDonalds that I was overqualified O_o So I asked if I could be a manager-in-training instead of a burger-flipper. "Sorry no, you're overqualified" O_o

[@gorgefood9867]

Did you guys cure cancer or something?

[@alonzomartii]

@@SexycuteStudios You should've been hire to be a burger flipper at the McDonald's University.

[@johanlahti84]

I was overqualified to pick up trash as a 15 year old just because i had "good grades" at the time. I got a summer job anyway, but still...

[@233kosta]

I guess honesty is a negative trait in today's job market

[@233kosta]

@La Nausée That's the shit that _needs_ to be regulated. Instead politicians waste their time telling you what you can and can't do in your own bedroom

[@effexon]

honesty is respect of special kind, but it is not taken as such, it is skill to receive it.

[@effexon]

@La Nausée You are right, one coworker straight said they know this, but it kinda is built into the game, one doesnt get hired if being honest. Only Bill Burr can get away with it.

[@effexon]

@@233kosta You are right, economy started to tank when first advertisers and then all out anything goes with companies, straight out lying. People cannot trust anymore, so many are hyperironical and cynical about other people and life. Now it seems it is bullshit competition all over.

[@DavidKirwanirl]

Information is power, you hand out as little as possible.

[@StormTheSquid]

I feel like I need to comment on this, though I doubt it'll get seen. I'm almost 20, about to start college, going into game development. I have a guaranteed job lined up that's ideal for my skills and such that I'll have when I'm done. So I don't know much about interviews, overqualification, not being able to find a job, etc. But I still feel like this should be said. Correct me if I'm wrong, but asking "Why are you here? Why aren't you working somewhere that your qualifications apply to?" Seems kind of redundant. The obvious reason is that there *are* no jobs for what they're qualified to do. They have no other options. My cousin couldn't find a job because he was overqualified for everything. He couldn't even stock shelves. The reason he was looking for jobs that far below him, is that there were no jobs for his level of qualifications. And yes, he did have actual experience and true qualifications, not just a degree or whatever. That just seems... Wrong to me. You said in some other videos that you try to be a nice person, but the whole "overqualification bias" doesn't seem nice at all. I have a suggestion to everyone. Don't just _think_ "Why are you here?" *_Ask_* it.

[@AA-lz4wq]

It isn't redundant at all. As the video says there are multiple reasons why overqualified people apply to these kind of jobs. Going for the "obvious reason" without considering other possibilities is a great mistake that could cost you a lot. But even if you are right and the only reason why they're applying to jobs that are below them is because "there are no jobs for what they're qualified to do" that means that as soon as they find said job positions they would definitely leave the company and that would be really annoying. Most of the time it's a lose-lose situation for employers.

[@NimhLabs]

@@AA-lz4wq *(*cough*)* the comment you are replying to is suggesting you actually ask, rather than go for the "obvious reason" *(*cough*)*

[@AA-lz4wq]

​@@NimhLabs (*cough*) Edited (*cough*) He said it was redundant: "asking _"Why are you here? Why aren't you working somewhere that your qualifications apply to?" Seems kind of redundant."_ (*cough*) If you ask something automatically assuming that "it gotta be X" well it IS kinda pointless to ask... (*cough*) He contradicts himself (*cough*) "Asking" can easily lead to a lie, unless you are so naive to believe that they would say something that could potentially damage their employment aspirations, hell people frequently lie on their résumé (*cough*) Even if employers expect some lies while interviewing applicants they actually ASK these kind of things so this "recommendation" is completely pointless (*cough*) reading comprehension (*cough*)

[@NightMind0]

Don't just think "Why are you here?" Ask it. (repeating the important bit)

[@LeoH3L1]

I worked for an employer who thought he knew it all, he was a mechanical engineer, I am an electrical/electronics engineer, and even after bringing in some fairly major improvements to a product I started to realise that I was undervalued, I won't go into specifics, but several times I warned my boss about avoiding doing certain electrical/electronic things, and suggested ways I know would work better and more reliably, only to be proved right several times, and if we'd done it the way I suggested (which we ended up doing) it would have saved the company thousands of pounds several times. The reason people are willing to work at lower end jobs is often because of simply the job market.

[@jorgemiguel2641]

My thoughts on underqualified employers: They underpay, they don't listen to their employees and try to micromanage everything while driving their own company into ruin, justifying it by blaming it on the more experienced employees they refuse to listen to. I quit my last job for that exact reason.

[@spazmatsuit3677]

Have you ever thought about doing a podcast or something were you just give advice and talk about random subjects? Cause I would totally listen to that. haha

[@flower-fauna]

well he kinda does that.. doesnt he?

[@spazmatsuit3677]

Yeah. Pretty much. But I thinking about something more along the lines of an audio only, hour long, dedicated podcast every week or so. I think that would be dope.

[@flower-fauna]

+Mathew Aaron ah yeah.. yeah it would be :D

[@redtails]

this is the podcast, you're listening to it.

[@gorgefood9867]

You will probably get forced content. He said a year ago that he makes a video immediately whenever he has an idea. He thinks of something and just turns on the camera.

[@EposVox]

Good chat. Very interesting.

[@NikosNisyros]

Hello EpicVox

[@missmisfortune556]

So basically, it's like trying to use a higher level Pokemon than the highest gym badge you have would allow.

[@hatslapper6860]

Wow, that's a good analogy considering the Pokemon actually stop listening to you.

[@AlcorSalvador]

You are amazing. Yes, this, this right here. And it's the difference of knowing if you will be using a Starter or a Non-Starter that's a higher Level than your Badge allowance.

[@jcnot9712]

Hardy Harhar as opposed to training a pokemon to that level yourself, which will always listen no matter how many badges you have.

[@jamescanjuggle]

I knew playing hours of that game would come in handy one day

[@willwunsche6940]

This is good

[@wisnoskij]

A lot of people nowadays seems to retire into overqualified jobs. I met a man a few months ago who was an ex-investment banker who retired into a stock boy position in Home Depot. He was ecstatic with the change in his life, so I can only imagine he was doing good work for the company. Interesting video, the only reasons I had heard of before were that the overqualified person was expected to quit and more onto a better job far more frequently than his peers.

[@timmy7201]

I think I ended up on the other side of the story. I was hired as developer, and once on the job I had to assess that they outsourced my project and would let me do the help/service-desk job instead, for the same wage. In the beginning I kinda liked it as people where friendly towards me for helping them so fast. I also tried convincing management to invest in new equipment so I could do my job faster, which they refused after a long discussion. (the first letdown) Due to lack of help-desk experience I also forgot to enforce the ticketing system at the start, so when I tried to enforce it later on those friendly people disappeared and all started to become very annoying. (the second letdown) Then their was the constant repetition of tasks that where perfectly possible to automate, but management didn't want to invest in existing software solutions or give me the required uninterrupted hours to develop something myself. (massive letdown) At the end I quit after only 1.5 years, as it felt like the equivalent of "trying to empty the ocean with a thimble"...

[@Laroc1982]

Sometimes people scale down because they don’t want the demands of a higher-paying job in the same field. For example, travel. They might be qualified for a 100K job in-field, but that 100K job requires travel, which they can’t do right now. So they take the $70K job instead. Or your company might be a better commute. The cut in pay is worth the shorter commute. Or maybe your company will give them the opportunity to be in-field, serving a different type of client. For example, serving the hospital industry instead of the hotel industry. There are many reasons people would take less money. People aren’t always hiding something. I believe employers have created an atmosphere where people have to hype themselves up to get a job. Employers want people to jump through hoops to prove their worthiness, so people have learned to embellish.

[@Siknik64]

Not trying to justify shady or lazy workers, but quite possibly these overly qualified candidates are at your doorstep because good workers are harder to come by and they can't find work because all the spots are taken by lackluster workers.

[@cloudcloud8486]

I hate to admit it, but a lot of what he says actually resonates with me. I feel like im doing my company a favor by being there. I feel under paid, and under appreciated. I know im capable of jobs that are significantly more complex than what im doing so there is also an element of boredom. Louis is right tho as it is a toxic mindset. I definitely feel myself brushing off my boss when he wants things done a certain way cause I feel like he should prove to me why his way is better before I just listen and do as im told. And you're also right in that people like me never really wanted this job, we just cant get hired where we think we should. I think all this education people have nowadays in a way limits our happiness. Everyone is overqualified for the job and ends up resenting their employer cause they know they can do better and feel like they are being abused by the capitalist systems.

[@effexon]

@@cloudcloud8486 I feel same too, too much information too early in life/career is painful coz it is just theory baggage in mind. Naturally people, programmers etc learn by experience, they seek knowledge when they reach ceiling of understanding required to accomplish jobs. This is in private sector, Im not sure how this applies to public sector as I see majority of highly educated go there.

[@walboyfredo6025]

Louis - not all cases. I was working as a manager in a company but l saw a job as a Technican paying 40% more then l was on plus they had far more benefits e g. Product discount , dental/medical care, free gym , hotel discount, free entry to pleasure parks for your family etc, adding to that it was 15 - 20 minutes closer to home . However the hiring manager feedback was that the job "....would be a backward step in my career" aka you are over qualified!. I found out that she had a Technical diploma whereas l had a BSc a Masters along with a Teacher /Trainer qualification plus she was in the manager's role for only for 2 weeks at the time l had the interview. If she opened her darn mouth and asked salary expectation she may understood the reason why. I only could assume 2 things: 1. She thought l would have been an expensive hire - She may assumed l was on 10-15% more the Technician''s pay. 2. She was scared of me since she was a rookie manager. During this time airline pilots are working as grocery delivery van drivers in the UK. During the depression PhD graduates were working as truck driver in the Hoover Dam construction in the 1930's. If people want to roll up their sleeves and do a hard day's work then their qualifications should not be a hindrance! Steve Job stated that "overqualified people could provide an opportunity for the company to develop more creative product and services more rapidly . Under qualified would tend to take time in developing their own competence in their new industry/environment. It could be a lost opportunity".

[@MichaelBruceTaos]

Just wanted to say treating employees like family is the best way to be. Business owners that criticise doing that are the clueless ones.

[@FSTK]

I disagree there. You should look into the history of the Endicott Johnson Corporation and see how it's harder than it looks. In a nutshell: we're all motivated by self-interest and our relationships in a family isn't above that self-interest either.

[@ian1352]

@@ArchilochusOfParos The research also shows that a good working environment yields results primarily when people are being paid sufficiently that they don't have to be concerned about money. Many businesses miss that part. Ranking employees then firing the bottom 10% is one of those management practices that tends to create pathological behaviour that is destructive to the business, but looks good on paper. Giving executives share options tends to motivate them to engage in behaviour primarily intended to drive up the stock price. Not surprisingly one of those behaviours is firing people to make the company more profitable.

[@arminkuburas1696]

I humbly disagree. I think it's patronizing and belittling to be called " family " or treated as " family ". In here to work and make money please leave me alone. I don't wanna go play darts with you after work, I don't want to go to a " meeting " about the next " business " trip to Japan. I just wanna work and make my money. God damn

[@cacodemon_doom]

What if your family treats you like shit?

[@redhammer92]

@@cacodemon_doom Well Yenn, that sucks frankly, just try to treat people like you want to be treated. No need for all this 'Family' bullshit eh?

[@glenwoofit]

Also employer's don't want to be starting the employment process again 6 months down the line because you found another job that pays the rate you think you should be earning due to your over qualification for the job.

[@peoplez129]

That's really only an excuse. It's valid in jobs that require training, since they have to pay the cost of retraining someone....and yeah while finding someone to fill a position is typically a hassle....most of those types of jobs don't require training since they require people to already have the experience. I mean what do you expect people with high qualifications to do? If they can't find a job in their price range, they obviously have to find something to hold them over.....even Mcdonalds might not hire them due to over qualifications, so here they can't even find a job for $7 an hour let alone $15. Are they just supposed to lose their mortgage or default on their bills or have their car repo'd or worse? You gotta realize that all these excuses of employers, are actually things they should allow for in the job market...because these are rock solid realities. Instead they act like these people should essentially be unemployable just so they don't have to deal with it. If you go by this heartless logic, over qualified people are always going to be over qualified, and hence NEVER employable. That reality trumps everything. They want people to think like this though, so they can keep beating them down and justify themselves.

[@glenwoofit]

???

[@glenwoofit]

+ungratefulmetalpansy Do yourself a favour and don't learn from me. Buy an English textbook.... :)

[@glenwoofit]

+ungratefulmetalpansy Also predictive text from phones do weird things.

[@rossmanngroup]

I felt I was overqualified to work minimum wage stocking shelves but couldn't find a job, so I started a business with my last $200 left. There are always options. I would still suggest if someone who is overqualified truly wants a minimum wage position somewhere, that they figure out and then address the concerns of the employer rather than sit silent and nod.

[@cruzintheraw]

The BEST business owners always set high expectations from the start and maintain high standards for themselves and for their employees... The moment a business owner lowers those set expectations and standards for themselves... their employees immediately follow...

[@slateslavens]

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. This is one of my problems getting a decent job locally. HR looks at my resume and thinks 'overqualified', especially after seeing Lockheed Martin. My specialty isn't any one programming language or development paradigm, it's supporting their existing code base. My 'forte', if you will, is reading the code of the existing system I'm going to support and learning to code in that language using the same architecture and coding style, documenting the crap out of it, and making my contributions as seamless and similar to the existing code base as possible. It's irrelevant whether the architecture is no longer a 'best practices' style, or if some other aspect is less than desirable. I'm not there to convince the bean counters to rewrite the whole enchilada. I'm there to address the shortcomings and defects in the system as it currently stands and make the modifications they need to get the functionality they want. So yes, I have a lot of experience with certain things, but every time I 'onboard' I have to learn a new coding style, a specific architecture, and often times a new language. This video explains a lot to me from a business perspective and I'll be putting it to use. Thank you again, Les Berg

[@Jeremy-up6zq]

he's always got really good arguements. Really smart dude

[@KrKrypton]

Absolutely treat people like family, but make it so, that in the back of their mind, they know you are the boss, you are their leader. Treating people like a number doesn't breed loyalty. Treating them like family does. Non-loyal employees won't think twice about leaving, loyal employees will regret the decision to leave and will actually miss the position when they do. This has been the case every where I have had employment. I had a couple places that treated me like a number and a couple that treated me like family, guess which ones I still kind of miss being employed with. Give your guys tasks, but make sure you are seen accomplishing your own tasks or helping them with theirs when they need it, or you have nothing to do at the moment. This breeds even more loyalty and also respect. No one has any heartfelt respect for a boss that sits behind a desk and appears to do nothing, even though they may be doing something. Lead from the front, not from the office chair. In the military I had far more respect and loyalty for that kind of leader (officer) than one who sat in his office all day. These are things you likely already know, I'm just trying to reinforce it.

[@charlieoconnor40]

i miss your business help, too much apple and repairs lately lol i love what you are doing for us and i appreciate it. Thank you.

[@hobgoblin4614]

Thing I really like about your videos is you present problems and then propose possible solutions. Not a lot of people do that. Thanks for the great videos!

[@normandean2081]

I hired a guy to install satellite communications systems, he was the most qualified and he was a former business owner of a construction company. I trained him and got him certified, and bought all his tools for him. He worked a total of 1 week before he quit and ran off with all my tools and supplies to start his own installation business in direct competition with me. This is why I don't hire the most qualified and most motivated any more.

[@bossbaby8745]

Norman Dean take this L

[@weir-t7y]

Norman Dean sounds like major prejudice but okay enjoy running your business into the ground

[@gotbacon3624]

OoF

[@---cr8nw]

+searchoverload8, it's not going to run his business into the ground. Learning from mistakes is never a bad thing.

[@che3se1495]

@@---cr8nw He learnt wrong though. That experience shouldn't tell him that he shouldn't hire the most qualified but that he should write and enforce a decent employee contract.

[@jgdooley2003]

I came across this in my toxic last employment. The company used to hire Degree or on one occasion Masters qualified people to do Cert level work. They ended up leaving after 2 years whereas the cert or less qualified people, like me, with less choices and less ability to move jobs, stayed on in the place for longer. At last the top management hired an experienced technical guy who started to develop us properly. Things lasted another 2-3 yrs of effective and satisfying work because we were valued and trained at the level we were suited to.

[@er1q1]

dude i had 0 interest in repairs and computers until i started watching these vids. you have developed such a broad depth of life experience man and it really informs the way you think and look at things and never giving up. i actually like the core philosophies and rants videos more than the technical instructions! Keep doing what you do, i most definitely am a fan :) also if you could clone your shop in the uk that would be super awesome :p would love to have that kind of customer service here

[@josephpete1833]

The repetition is nice because he is giving different examples. I am actually near your age Louis. 25 here, been on my own since 17. I got the feeling that my boss that recently let me go; had more of that thought than I did. Going into this being humble was my goal as I had literally nothing. I had never asked or really spoke about my wage, i was very concerned for their budget as they kept reminding me that it was non profit. I loved working there, my only frustration was they would ask I have a prep list, they wouldn't buy what was on my needed list for that weeks meals. I was to then be responsible for why There was none of this ingredient. Without being given the responsibility of purchasing i felt fairly helpless. $12-16/hr is pretty common for line cooks and or assistant chef. Your video is quite clear and is quite helpful and I will be using it. As a negative person, i am working on the positiveness of a situation. I have scared employers by asking questions back, not rude or such, just curious questions. They had not even given me much more than a glance and a trash can. I appreciate the answer! the time you took to basically talk to me is very much so valued. I will be adjusting my resume. That gave me some very good ideas to implement on trimming and re writing certain areas. Good to see that your business is still going along and your sanity has not been broken by Apple bullying you. I know the whole San Bernardino iPhone issue gave them quite a thorn in their side. I heard you should get in contact with H3H3 Productions- [e-mail] Has a fund setup for farcical lawsuits against KZbinrs. It's not a charity Louis, It is a community fund to assure everyone their due process. Just because SOME youtubers dont have money doesnt mean they shouldnt have representation. If you havent already please do.

[@fraudsarentfriends4717]

Corporate management doen't like people who have been in the game long enough to catch them lying.

[@michiganmafia]

I've been watching your videos for about 7 months now, and I gotta say, I've seen ya mellow out quite noticeably Louis! You just seem a lot more relaxed when you make this kind of video, and I can appreciate your calm confidence. Keep up the great work brother!

[@Reksrat]

As a teenager who hasn't had much work experience and Is currently job hunting, stuff like this is super helpful

[@demoncard1180]

Good luck! Edit: two years posthumous luck!

[@btchard7409]

For what it's worth. You are the kind of boss i would like to work for. Even for less than for what i usually get :)) ( this was me trying to make a compliment) Sidenote: I had to do 6 interviews once, because a company thought i was overqualified. The important thing is, the job i was applying for was for entry level technical service and the pay was 230% the pay i got as a quality manager for a small graphic design company. ( i have a fairly good hardware service backround and the huge difference between pay was the wage gap between the country i was working at that time and the country i wanted to move to for the new position). When the term "overqualified" goes wrong :))

[@bluesmokegamer272]

There's also the concern that they see this as a temp paycheck and will leave the nano-second something better is available.

[@Demonslayer20111]

BlueSmokeGamer that's literally everybody qualified or not

[@ellisisland4902]

A temp paycheck still feeds you

[@Le_Jit]

The part about the sales pitch during your workout reminds me of what I call the "Platinum Rule": Do unto others as they would have done unto them. Thanks for all your instructional vids and motivational talks, Louis. You're an inspiration.

[@MegaMech]

3:25 ish. Do you think instead of "overqualification" a better term would be "know it all". Overqualification assumes "this guy knows what he's doing" while know it all, can be maybe he's lacking in a certain area but cannot see it.

[@worldhello1234]

You confuse a personal trait with qualification.

[@Gaer56]

Maybe , but i think its more about whining, even if hes right. Same as sorting juice in job. You have to do it in order, but if you just put same amout of juice, it wont work.

[@effexon]

I respect entrepreneurs like Louis. They're generally more straightforward what they want and need. Companies with owners some place else and hired people taking new people, use routinely learned bs reasons(lack of some skill) when they just didnt like my personality. You get the point. Discussion is harder when it is not direct.

[@Musicmanbutte]

You sound like a person that I would love working with. If I said that I had a degree, which I do, I would bring my degree, my transcript, and I would tell you the truth of what the reason was that I was at your door looking for a job that would pay a lot less. I would tell you that I graduated from college because I had to work harder than the other people that I went to school, and I would also tell you that I have a learning disabilities, and how I worked my way around it so that, and why I would be a good employee for your company, and I just want to work because I can't find a job.

[@Musicmanbutte]

Now that sounds like you had a real strict daddy. People that have a heart would not do that. When you have a child you don't just have that child for 18 years, you have that child for their whole life. To kick a child out that is completely heartless. I happened to have very understanding parents that would always let you fall back on them if you needed them. I am sorry for your situation with your daddy, but good for you if you went out and got a job and kept it. Being who I am and having parents that didn't tell me get a job or you'll be homeless I think I turned out pretty good. I taught myself at the age of 16 how to program in 4 different computer languages, and I got my masters degree in "psychology and human behavior" "Masters in Computer Science". I work for myself and I am happy. What I meant in my original comment, is if a person has understanding and you "Tell then truth of why you want to work for them some people might be understanding enough to give you a job. People aren't in no way shape or for obligated to give you a job just because you want one, but you have to sort of see the employers point of view when they are looking to hire someone, they just want someone that is going to get the job done and get the job done right. That is where your listening skills come in, even if you are qualified to be a high gross earning person. Any job that you do you do what the boss wants or your out of there. But on another note to your reply back to me. Some people just have understanding parents that would be willing to help you at any cost, and others don't, tat is just a fact of life, but anything you can do to better yourself is what any person has to do, especially if they have a parent that told them you better go get a job or you'll be homeless.

[@niilespunkari8832]

I am +40y/o, I have +10y work experience, I have post-graduate diplomaS in the field of disability care, but recently I got a "you are overqualified" response to my work application which has confused me ever since -- so this video is exactly what I needed. I just need to explain, that I am not interested in a manager position, that I like to assist disabled people in their everyday tasks (I regularly volunteer after work), and then go home to do my crazy software programming and server setups. And all-in-all that lifestyle makes me happy and content.

[@tonybutcher4762]

2:40 you hit the nail on the head we have one at our shop biggest pain the arse I've ever met .

[@murculago]

I like the get bigger thing because when people have tried stuff like that before I never get asked what my goals are. I’m not a very big guy I’m actually still really small overall but I have a lot of lean muscle and work out to be healthy and capable to lift heavy stuff and whatever else it ends up being useful for. It also helps de stress. I also do it partially for my view of myself it makes me more comfortable with my body and proud of what I have achieved! I have posted a few photos on my personal Instagram not my portfolio for my photography one. That’s when I got these people trying to get me to “get big with their help!”

[@SavageGreywolf]

you sound like a good person and like a decent boss. but fyi I'm pretty sure most employer's concerns with the """""overqualified""""" is much more cynical. Most of the time you hear this sort of thing not from small business owners but from middle managers in huge megacorps. They are afraid you will take their job, and may genuinely resent you for being more qualified than them. They are afraid you will expect faster and better raises than the average employee, and what's more you might be able to swing it. They want someone they can exploit, and the market happens to be good enough for employers that they can pick someone who is highly _talented_ but not as formally "qualified" and pay them half what they're worth. They want someone who _is_ as qualified as you but _seems_ more desperate than you for the same reasons. Finally they may want someone who is less qualified so that they'll have less options to 'escape' a shitty job. Thankfully most of these are exceptionally toxic reasons so they're basically doing you a favor by turning you down.

[@effexon]

You are right, unfortunately job market is tailored to heavily favor these kind of companies. Those managers simply protect their job any reach possible within limits.

[@eragon78]

Unfortunately while you're right, this is the world we live in. Good luck finding a decent job that ISNT like this. Companies are constantly looking for the lowest bidder and will sell out your job to someone who will work for far less and will be greatful to have the experience. The people who are the most exploitable also tend to be the ones that are most desired and hired. People who have a mind of their own are liabilities. This is how nearly every company, especially large ones, think. When 80-90% of the job market is like this, its very difficult to find a good job that will appreciate your skills that isnt like this.

[@effexon]

@@eragon78 are we in favor of state company jobs once again, as it seems cyclical trend in history to alternate free market companies and state owned companies majority jobs... I mean it is human system after all, it can be "rigged" in favor of regular workers also, now it is just other end of pendulum, favoring big private companies.

[@eragon78]

@@effexon you can control this to some degree with regulation, but thats more or less fighting the symptoms. The main issue is that workers dont have enough leverage when negotiating for jobs or wages. Education is very expensive so many workers are desperate to find work after getting an education and will work for cheap. And on the flip side, low skill workers dont have the time or money to gain skills to do anything else. They need to work at shitty low wage jobs constantly just to pay the bills, and dont have time to go to college or a trade school, and even if they did have time, they dont have the money to. And then on top of all of this, things like the Peter principle basically ensure that people will be in positions they are unqualified for making them unable to recognize the problem to begin with. So those who actually have the power to help fix the situation and improve productivity and standards of living dont have the competence to know how to do that or even that they should do that. Its all a big mess. No easy solution from the ground up will fix the problem either.

[@jaydeo7850]

I hope I find a boss like you one day, because my mental health sucked in high school and my grades corresponded with that, plus my school didnt have any clubs or extra curriculars. If I had to fill out a resume it would really suck, but ever since I've had a kid my outlook on work ethic has sky rocketed and I'm much more productive than I was in school. Also before I went through so much trauma, I made straight As and I was in the national honor junior society, so I'm actually very smart but it would not show on a piece of paper.

[@multirampage1]

19:10 "I am by no means a human resources person" That's a good thing.

[@jgdooley2003]

Human resources are next door to Satan. So this is good.

[@samsonxon]

Thank you for making this. Four years later I’m watching this and it is helping me so tremendously. Thank you so very much for these (super late I know)

[@ssthapit]

Helpful video. I would also be interested in a video on what you do to make your staff feel like owners. Thank you.

[@hardware20x]

Speaking of working out, would be interesting if you did a video of your bodybuilding/workout routine.

[@jackbauer3948]

I graduated with 2 majors (Computer science and math) and can't find a job

[@hattrickster33]

Specialize. If you say B.Sc. or even masters in Computer Science you have a really good general knowledge of how to code, how software runs on an O.S., and probably networking, databases, and hopefully on the hardware as well. Those are all great. It means you don't have any really big gaps in your knowledge. But that isn't enough. You need to focus on an area you really like and then become really good at it.

[@MrWazzup987]

Do daily programmer and post working code to git hub. try and get internships.

[@TAVIII]

ditch pcs and draw furry porn on deviantart for commission just bring a sick bag or 10 and you're fucking alright mate

[@Xyos212]

Formal Education doesn't mean that much in programming/Computer engineering. Yes its a nice "checkbox" of accomplishments, but employers want to see experience. It does't have to be prior employment, pick a project you want to do and do it. Make a cool website with some nice SQL integration, or a small game, or mobile app, something to bring to an interview and show them you took something to completion, and that you have passion to do this in your spare time. Personality and being yourself is important too in an interview, don't get too nervous.

[@NeoChromer]

you cant find a job with CS? Dude.. how?

[@atmanindra2613]

As a new young business owner, I'm really glad that I subscribed to your channel. I have a core team that I've been working with for 8 months now and I'm going to begin the process of hiring 3 new people soon and I had some concerns about it. This video gave me some insight and helped me sort out some of the process I'll need to go through.Thank you.

[@rossmanngroup]

+Richard Mbonesi glad to hear it, best of luck!

[@dianagama3390]

The many times you forgot what you were talking about had kept me linked through this video.

[@rossmanngroup]

+Diana Gama 😃

[@PORTBOB]

I know this is years old, I enjoy your tech videos and the real estate ones have also been great. As an older long time IT person this enlightened me to my attitude sometimes in my now 2 year old position. I can see myself at times leaning into those negative scenarios.

[@batman9614]

I work two jobs, one of which I make 4X as much as the other, but I agreed to work the lesser paying job and do it without resentment and with as much enthusiasm as the higher paying job. I believe when an employee agrees to work for a certain price they should work for that price without complaining.

[@joshkree8016]

Found this channel recently Louis, found channel recently. Love the videos, lots of information and In my short time watching, I must say you are very inspirational. Completely clueless and a career hopper at age 22 but I hope I can find my true passion soon. Best of luck in the future and keep up the great work!

[@lightsier]

Oh snap! When you flexed I was impressed! Also good advice!

[@gcrady]

(new subscriber) I stumbled on to this channel a few days ago,, (looking around for some info on how to fix a bluetooth headset),, and what a find this channel has turned out to be. In the 25yrs that I have been cruising the internet, for answers to all of life's daunting questions,, I have never felt more professionally (thou different) and philosophically connected to anyone, as much as I have here. The similarities are just too numerous to bother explaining. (even the black cats, lol) As I venture into the emerging consumer-level market of 3D Printing,, I am aware that lacking proper college credentials will keep me from being employed, and that wealthier startups will quickly establish businesses that will only provide limited services. My only advantage is my intelligence, curiosity, passion and determination to provide superior customer service and experience,, and those are the "Qualifications" I will always fall back on, and look for, if hiring someone to work for me.

[@clyde34]

On what planet do engineers earn $600k/y for a design job?

[@jeffshackleford3152]

Earth....

[@jeffshackleford3152]

@Unknown Kappa I couldn't leave it alone... I apologize

[@philfortner1805]

Planet Vorpulon where the riches flow and the laser cats patrol...and then mom wakes me up for breakfast.

[@techjdu]

I know exactly what you're talking about. I was on the other side of the fence. I moved to a new city and found this job where I took a big pay-cut to work for them doing fire/security alarms, access control, cameras, multi-graphic intercoms, etc. I was tearing ass fixing everyone's shit, teaching the fellow workers, and really improving this company's whole reputation with their customers. I'm not trying to toot my own horn, but bear with me. I foolishly thought I would get a huge pay-raise, thought I could change the uniforms, and I guess just take over or something, I was young, I don't know what I was thinking.I failed to realize that my boss was the owner of HIS company. He had a future vision for HIS company. And he was right, he took the initiative to start that company, not me.Whether his ideas were wrong or right, it was HIS company. I don't hold it against him. I had to move on to somewhere else, but I don't hold it against him. If he would happen to get backed up or something, I'd go help him out, no questions asked. We just had different visions.

[@sykotheclown1]

Damn Louis, you're jacked.

[@rossmanngroup]

i'm a string bean

[@sykotheclown1]

+Louis Rossmann So I was thinking, maybe Apple is more insidious than we really think, regarding your fighting for the Right to Repair bill. If they were to take legal action upon you/your company then it would no doubt get lots of coverage and inform people even more about the bill. Reaching an audience you wouldn't normally be able to.

[@rossmanngroup]

sykotheclown1 it really comes down to what is more valuable, safety of my business/money in the bank or generating attention towards the cause. it's easy to say you want to be a martyr for your cause, hard to actually admit you probably have to start your life over from scratch.

[@sykotheclown1]

+Louis Rossmann You have earned my respect through the internet in ways that people I meet in real life cannot. Thank you for everything you have done for us Louis. If you fall there will be many more that will take your place. side note: I have been watching all of your videos in chronological order. Up to the 3 year old vids right now. :)

[@rossmanngroup]

sykotheclown1 thank you!

[@scottrobinson4611]

I too thought overqualification was BS. Now I'm learning the truth but from the side of the overqualified employee. I've got a master's degree in physics. I wasn't sure about what I wanted to do, but I took a job in data recovery because it sounded fun and lines up well with some of my skills and interests. Well now I'm a few months down the line, and while my job is fun, my boss is one of those people whose mood is a total coin flip, and it makes the work environment feel too tense for my liking. I'm earning £16k when I could be earning £40k. I'm jumping ship because I realise I've started getting this "my time is worth far more than what you're paying me" attitude. While the job is fun for the most part, I'm not getting much out of it that I couldn't get somewhere else. I have friends earning more money for their time, doing cutting-edge research, they've got the social and professional support of university life, and after 4 years of it, they get a PhD. I have a coworker who was hired to write software, but he's ended up taking charge of all of our recoveries because he's good at it, and doesn't share this attitude of higher self-valuation. Sucks but it's all a learning process and I now know that I'll probably not enjoy working for far too little money (compared with what I could be earning).

[@jbroad8194]

I always thought being 'overqualified' was just a way of employees saying they don't want you to work with them because of your sex, race, age or persuasion, something they can't just say outright.

[@usptact]

Very good points! It is rare that somebody will explain you those things with such clarity and no nonsense talk.

[@bkseitz]

Hmmm, sounds less about overqualified than you're not looking at the other aspects needed for the job. I see a lot a millennials with the same attitude, "yes", "yes", but I know better. Most overqualified people I've met seem to have another attitude, I came here for the job because I enjoy the job.

[@undefined6341]

Great video! Nice to see an insight from an employer's point of view about overqualification. I think it can sometimes also just happen that someone is super desperate for any income. Sometimes life just hits you like a truck, so you do what you gotta do to make it through.

[@XOIIOXOIIO]

God, I've heard this a couple times, my resume has a lot of computer and tech related stuff and worth experience from high school, but also pretty menial things like lumber yards and a gas station. The one I remember most is applying to work at a grocery store stocking shelves, and I got back that I was "overqualified". I mean what sort of bullshit is that? I just want to stock some fucking shelves for you, I'm not older than them, and the stuff I'm good at doesn't even relate to this area. Kind of unrelated but I didn't get a tech job at best buy (I know, crappy but work is work), because I fix computers on the side through local classifieds, because it was a conflict of interest or something, the few times I do get work anymore that a load of copycats showed up I told them that I needed a way to pay for my phone bill while I was out of work but apparently that wasn't good enough. Though listening to this as I was typing my comment it sounds like this is from a different perspective lol

[@tohopes]

"needed a way to pay for my phone bill while I was out of work" That makes it sound like there's a good chance you're still actively looking for something better and will quit as soon as you find a better job. Companies generally look to hire people who will be there for a while, so that they don't have to keep hiring new people and training them.

[@XOIIOXOIIO]

I don't see how, I mean they expect you to answer your phone to get the call for more questions or an interview, how are you supposed to have one if you are completely broke? Not everyone gets that shit handed to them by their parents, and hell it's still a good month if I can afford my phone bill. Plus if I wasn't actively looking for work I wouldn't have applied for the job that I was being interviewed for. But maybe hiring people just don't think the way I do.

[@tohopes]

Jesse Yes but "while I was out of work" communicates that you still REALLY want a job that's categorically different (better) than this one you're currently applying for... and that you'll only be willing to work at THIS job until you find one of THOSE jobs. (Which might be 2 months after being hired... which could be right when you would have started being productive for this employer.)

[@XOIIOXOIIO]

Well, it was a computer repair job which is exactly what I like to do, granted they ship a lot of stuff out of province which sucks. I don't know, never heard back from them and I kind of doubt that the same staff is there now lol Just gets really tiring when you find something right up your alley and you don't hear back or worse, get that bs during an interview. Talk about a waste of gas (if I have the money to actually register and drive my car that month)

[@tohopes]

Jesse Yeah, I know it sucks when you get all excited and then never hear back. Is there anything you wish you'd done differently?

[@MandrakeDCR]

Kind of resurrecting an old video here, but it came back up from the rabbit hole... I can completely relate to this and I think it is absolutely right. I'm in my mid 40's. I've put in nearly 25 years in the technology fields from printers and networks to PCs and laptops, and all kinds of software and operating systems that go with them. The tech industry has really created the 'toxic mindset' itself. When most of us could walk in to any shop as a bench tech and make $15 - $18/hour in 1995 (that's in the midwest mind you). Work hard, get our certifications, learn new tech as we went, earn our due raises every year, it was a great time to be in the industry. $20-$25 was no problem even for just 3-5 years experience back in 2001 or so. Then, somewhere somehow, the glut of technicians hit the marketplace from the colleges, maybe some tech giants got together, I don't know... and wages actually dropped back to pre-1997. I'll never forget the first time I and my teammates were asked to take a 30% paycut or severance package. Ever since, you can count on someone being in a bind when the pay is good, and that you'll be dumped when it's over. It's not fair to you for sure, and I would never (and have never) take out my frustration on my boss/supervisor/etc. - I always do my job 110% - it's how I got to where I'm at. However, in this business - the burn is deep for a lot of people. It just sucks all around. Hell, I've actually worked the counter at a local gas station just to get my mind out of the rut for a while. It pays about the same as entry tech fields these days so... it was a fun diversion for a year.

[@kcido14]

that t-shirt should be orange :P

[@SteveHonakerII]

At the end of the interview when they ask if you have any questions for the interviewer try this one. "Can you think of any reason you would not give me this job?" Worked great in the interview Brian Brushwood did on hacking the system and worked great for me as well. That'll give you the opening if they are worried about your qualification/overqualification or anything else, to resolve those concerns.

[@gacha24]

What is the name of Jim's book please?

[@rossmanngroup]

+gacha24 start with no

[@cmreel]

I've had this problem. When I apply for a job I do my best to customize my application to them. Be honest and ready to fit the job you are applying for. Overqualification imo means that you plan to be there until something better comes along. Which might be the case, but they do not need to know that. Got to make ends meet.

[@refanedzole2412]

You sound exactly like Jerry Seinfeld

[@TrueGoose117]

My mom dealt with this problem. She was at one point the director of nursing at a hospital, but quite work to raise her kids. Everyone refused to hire her because she was overqualified for a beginner nursing job, but out of work to long (15 years) to be given a manger role. She said she was willing to work for low pay, but they were scared she would leave when a better offer would come up. Now that the crisis started they all want her, but she is no longer interested.

[@MrWazzup987]

I say this with kind but this video could have been five minute long. you have tendency to repeat you self with adding new value with each repetition. my recommendation try to distill your points. SO what is your core point for this video? Over qualified people some times feel resentful when they are given work/pay below their station. This can harm moral, and production and in some cases cause shrink when they wont do some thing the right way. then give a couple of examples then wrap the video with a conclusion. you could probably get the core message down to 1:20 if you just want to blast it out there, 3 minute with some exposition of the concept and 5 to 6 with examples.

[@michaelk.jensen1611]

Usually the way Louis tells it makes you able to relate to the points, just because you can distill the points, doesnt make it a good thing to do. You can write knowledge down in very succinct and short writing, but it doesnt actually tell you anything, it TELLS the knowledge but doesnt convey it!

[@maggie_very]

Louis doesn't write scripts for his videos. He speaks his mind, so naturally this leads to repetition. Maybe to you it gets boring, but to me and I'm sure many others it helps to drive the point home.

[@illitero]

I get what you're going for with this, but the way he tackles these videos is very train of thought. They're not planned, he gets an idea and hits record.

[@kittythe5750]

179,000 subs along with Apple's attorney's would disagree with you there.

[@erronousactions]

Bulletpoints without a story? Who's ever been fulfilled by those kinda presentations? I know I haven't.

That is so true, even tho I am not a business owner, but ever since I moved to UK to start a new career at a work place which is my passion, I noticed the same attitude from my boss, he treats his staff like a family, always cares for everyone, doesn't put a pressure on staff, I'd honesty say it is better than I worked in Latvia rewinding industrial crane brushless motors, and after left my work, I joined free lancing project where I worked as a 3D modeler/animator, which wasn't different from my first work rewinding industrial brushless motors, with whole ton of pressure and boss being a total dickhead, sorry for my language but I had to say it, but ever since I'm in UK I really can feel like my colleagues are like my family, and by the way, nice looking gaming series mouse that looks like Logitec 5500 Revolution one , which has some disadvantages.

[@AttilaTheHun333333]

I bet Walter White wrote that email.

[@cloudcloudly]

Back in high school, I took advantage of my school's program to get a C++, Network, and a few other certifications. Back to back interviews they told me I was "over qualified" when I tried to find job in college. I mean, what the fuck. How am I supposed to find a job? Low level tech repair get paid $10 an hour (back then) and I was over qualified? Not even a "Well, you don't have that much work experience" just a flat out "over qualified". I had all the certifications to prove it and recommendation letters if I ever need it. End the end I had to find job minimum wage at a grocery chain... because I could never find a job in the field I had certifications for. I can understand if it's higher level work where you don't get paid minimum or get paid on a salary where it could potentially be a negative. Just a bad taste in my mouth trying to find work in a low level computer repair. End rant from years and years ago. I wish I had this advice you provided back when I was still looking for a job to do better in my interview and try to convince them that on paper I may look "over qualified" but my work experience is much lower and there to learn. At the time I just gave up and got angry at the world for a few days then just applied to minimum wage jobs.

[@wwShadow7]

Toxic worker is a two way street. You facilitate it by not paying them what they're worth. I mean come on, you hired someone with niche skills in tech and you're having them pack boxes? You don't have a full time job to offer, you have several part time jobs that you've combined into one generic job. And I understand, it's a small business. But you're not training workers, you're training future employers who could become competitors. But you're hiring workers, not entrepreneurs. I'm probably that toxic overqualified type. Having taken many jobs over the years. Jobs that required me to relocate (in < 4 days) and wouldn't pay for the relocation. Jobs that were temporary by design with said requirement. Or jobs that required me to risk my health and life, but fired me because I wouldn't starve myself to keep that job. How could I not be toxic? If I'm not allowed to make an honest living because I'm deemed toxic by being overqualified, then what's left?

[@rossmanngroup]

I wouldn't make them pack boxes. I put up a job ad for someone to ship stuff we sell on eBay. They applied... did I "make" them pack boxes? And herein lies the two way street. I facilitated their toxicity by "making" them pack boxes when they are qualified to do something else.. just the fact that it can be seen that way, is why, I believe, many employers do not wish to hire overqualified candidates.

[@mattg5878]

With you on this LLoyd. I used to have an engineering team (chemical and process engineering) and when I was hiring young engineers I would simply check the CV for a decent university and the "Hobbies/ Interests" section. If they show that the person is "human" and can communicate effectively then I will interview them. then we talk about previous experience. Hiring someone who is a good, fun, nice, professional person is more important than skillset. Skillset can be taught and grown, personality cant.

[@b.p.stimemachines2327]

Dover qualification thing is about moneyif you have a McDonald's franchise and you need a manager you're not going to hire an MBA because it doesn't take an MBA to manager McDonald's but on the flip side if you take somebody with less experience and you train them and make them equality employee they will work for less and grow with you until they make more and they'll be loyal to you overqualification signifies a lack of loyalty and a desire for higher pay that may not always be the case but that is from a business perspective what itsignifies we're not quite being qualified and being taught the trade by your employer makes you a loyal employee that works for less that will eventually make more but not leave you for somebody else out of loyalty

[@sneakymcsqueaks8128]

In my experience, one can never be too competent - we're always fools in one way or another, hence ace pilots crashing and financial gurus becoming bankrupt. As an analogy, Jesus was a mere carpenter, but could raise the deceased, well, according to the Bible. I think this concept should put the overqualification issue in some perspective. I see overqualification more as a mindset, like with riding a bicycle: the moment you think you're too damn good at it and let go of the steering wheel, someone better be filming. True professionals are forever *students* of the art, but with their devotion and skill, they are, in my mind, doing just fine on their own and the only way to ally with one is not by means of employment, but through cooperation. I entirely agree with Mr. Rossman's point.

[@buttersleopaldstoch5793]

I wish more bosses where like you . You are informative, real and really likable.

[@kriswingert1662]

I received my certifications for my job filed, like all others did, and it took me 15 years to get the job. People who went to school with me for those certs thought I would find a job easily because of my background, but yet they got the jobs and I did not. I had my resume looked over and rewritten several times and even the agencies could not figure out why I was not even getting interviews. Turns out it is who you know and not how qualified you are. I was not even over-qualified, I fit the bill for every job.

[@ashleyashleym2969]

I think you explained it very well. I am/was also one of those people that think that overqualification was BS and if you meet the minimum standards that's all that matters. But now that you've explained it I see why one would not want to hire someone who is overqualified. It makes sense now.

[@freshpow21]

There’s another risk associated with overqualified applicants that he almost touched on. They typically use your open role to sustain them while they actively pursue jobs back in their wheelhouse and expected salary range. There’s nothing wrong with that, and more power to them! However, they often play games to get a foot in the door. Fawning interest in the role, fabricating stories about not needing higher paying jobs so they appear they will be content in the role, expressing frustration with previous career directions and their suddenly “magical passion” for your lower-tier role. He’s right on the pride and ego thing, but these personality traits drive these overqualified people toward an upgrade, and they drop you like a bad habit. You may have invested in months of training and professional/friendly leadership, only to see them leave when the grass is greener. I’ve taken a few risks on people overqualified and also of higher intellectual capability in hourly positions and ALL of them unexpectedly quit. Are they bad? Nope. It’s on me to leave assumptions at the door, but pay attention to their behavior prior to hiring.

[@peliparado94]

99% of employers take the cutthroat approach, so there's no reason for employees not to do everything in their power to act in their own interest, especially when there are not enough laws to protect the workers and give them higher security.

[@freshpow21]

Carlos Espinosa it’s interesting that you bring those points up, as I’m interested in learning and better understanding the employer/employee dynamic. I’ve been in the game for decades, but I need to keep a fresh perspective on new ideas. With unions in many trades and EEOC, what’s the next step to protect workers while also not negatively effecting businesses in drastic ways?

[@martinenglish6641]

I am retired but have most defiantly fallen doomed in my past work life as being overly qualified. For me personally, If I take a job at an agreed compensation, That is that. I have NEVER been fired but have given appropriate notice when I quit to take a better compensation gob and even work as a contract resource for former employers until they refilled my position with a competent tech. Being retired, I still help out former employers that I have built a relationship. I suffered the problem that I would work for giants like DuPont and State and Federal Employers in the Tech fields and a reorganization and outsourcing would happen and BAM; I am looking for onother job at the rate I was at. I would work in jobs with lower compensation just to have a job until I could find a better job so I never skated on unemployment. And I would always be upfront with the lower end of tech jobs that I would remain looking for a higher compensation job.

[@scrangos]

From reading on this subject, what happens in places with hiring departments (not the boss hiring for a small company, and where they dont really keep in touch with their hires) is that they try to avoid turnover. Same reason as the "why do you want this job?" question. It costs them 5k-20k to get a new hire ready, and if they are overqualified or unenthusiastic they will bail the second they get a better offer so they are not worth the investment.