Throne and Liberty MMO - Is It Any Good?

[@Lucky-GEN2]

I was playing with my friend today for the first time and we were exploring the beach shore area and when we went for a swim we transformed into otters safe to say that moment solidified our interest for the future of it

[@ForDaLuls]

Wow someone reviewing the game who actually hit max level

[@Jolsn]

Other content creators can't compete with me because they have lives

[@sallee132]

@@Jolsn No, other content creators knows everything before they even play the game lol.

[@sethael1741]

@@sallee132 because they played it for hundreds of hours in korea? because its already launched there (and failed hard so far.)

[@teddyoflove5897]

So true, it only took about 8hours to level up t max in Beta and alot of them did not even try to max out to see how game actually feels. Instead they reached level 20 - 30 have only half of their abilities unlocked and tell everyone combat sucks, game is boring, when most content is for max level players.

[@Paul1-G]

Wtf get 50 lvl is like 10h ez af

[@AnthonyRossetti]

Glad I gave it a chance instead of listening to people on the internet. Ended up having a lot of fun and gonna be going through withdrawals until September. Wish more people would learn to form their own opinion instead of just repeating what they hear their favorite streamer or reviewer saying.

[@Calmload96]

Exactly, and ppl kept bashing nothing and everything. The fame isn't the best but it is really good. Apart from matchmaking and cool down from potions need to be reduced to like 45 seconds

[@Kypoint_YT]

Agreed

[@KrakkenXXX]

Yup same here

[@AnthonyJay]

Couldn’t agree more. Saw a ton of negative videos on it but played anyway. Haven’t enjoyed an MMO like this in a long time lol. Was definitely addicted.

[@TipTopSnow]

Right!!!! I had no idea what this game was until a day before the beta, but holy shit was I pleasantly surprised💯 haven’t had that much fun on an MMO in a really long time

[@Mutagenz]

I have loved the beta and will be going in on launch. The combat gets insanely fun as you level up and the skills are only going to get better with new expressions. The PvP is awesome and the dungeons actually proved to be challenging. The level 30 dungeon took a lot of coordination. Loved it

[@asdasdgification]

the question is how m uch pay2win is it

[@Xbob42]

My lifelong experience with Korean MMOs: 1. Enjoy some generally best-in-class gameplay for a while 2. Start getting annoyed by weird/bad UI choices or poor translations 3. Encounter cancerous monetization that makes me immediately quit 1 and 2 can vary from game to game, 3 has been an inevitability every single time.

[@abdelrahmanrad]

Not in this game.

[@z-rossi3672]

@@abdelrahmanrad .... yet lol

[@JU0DAS]

​@@abdelrahmanrad i agree, here we will quit due to botting or a single huge pvp alliance per whole server

[@Killswitch1986]

@@JU0DASthat sounds awesome just get gud and gather ur forces and fuckn battle it out !!! Tonight we dine in HELLLLL For glory !

[@aselon_eu9565]

@@abdelrahmanrad *cough* Runes *cough* people already dumping $400+ on stream and not getting anything remotely to BiS

[@Sang-Je]

The game is actually really good once u level up your skills and stuff. It definitely grew on me and is a gorgeous game.

[@TonyStorm21]

This system is similar to how warframe does it, as a f2p player you can buy most of the stuff in the shop by playing because the main currency for trading are plats, which is the premium currency. This means that yes it can be exploited and yes someone with a big wallet can bypass a ton of work, but it also means someone without disposable income can buy stuff from the store without spending a dime and it think that's a bigger advantage than any flaw can be, especially for a free to play game.

[@cataranciuc]

All game reviewers gave this game a big NO! I tried it myself and I give it a big YES! Game was fun, main city was filled with people and 0 lag. Quests and events were fun. Dungeons were really polished and graphics are the best. Cant wait for September.

[@teddyoflove5897]

TL for me just feels much more of mmorpg than anyhing else since classic wow. And with new content coming, housing, cooking, fishing, new zones, new bosses, new dungeons both open and insanced, and skill expression that will open a lot of new combinations for builds after choosing weapon combo and correct skills. Can already see a lot of time will sink into this.

[@Shadowthevampire]

I never managed to figure out if they had alchemy or not?

[@ratedxvn]

They talked about housing?

[@chaoticneutral783]

Beta was enjoyable for me even if almost everyone had already played in Korea or previous betas so everyone rushed to level 50 and no one would do dungeons with new players and everyone was already scripting and had optimal builds. I took it slow, only made it to 45 and only did the first dungeon since I didnt join a guild and couldnt find a game with Tank/healer because as I mentioned everyone already knew what to do and they were just rushing to 50. On release I will play it for about a month since that when most MMOs are fun, after that only the P2W and hardcore players will stay.

[@danielkuttel7867]

So many content creators but no one shows the leveling in open world with friends. Most time we are 3 people in a party and it sucks, if you have to leave the party for solving solo dungeons. Wow is great at that point, even the scenarios can be joined together.

[@pinie111]

You have a more comprehensive and thorough understanding of the game than most other content creators that are just repeating what the others are complaining about. Without them having any idea about what the game is about they are just milking the game for content while you did an actual review. Thank you sir !

[@mariano8bits737]

For me this mmo it's perfect.

[@edgerunner2435]

Why is it perfect?

[@edgerunner2435]

@@akumawashere6620 FFXIV is one of the top MMOs for a reason. Also you’re comparing to pve focused MMOs to a PvP focused MMO. Which isn’t a fair comparison. Throne and Liberty was ok.

[@Oryyyt]

​​​@@akumawashere6620These mmos you've mentioned run on different philosophies and focus. Gw2 = public ow events, horizontal progression FFXIV = strong narrative driven content, rp heaven and (current)BDO = Shared world sandbox, lifeskills with unparalled action combat. T&L seems to cater to the large scale pvp crowd. If you're one of those then this is your jam and the others won't click with you. But know that's not everyone's flavor. Some will always prefer other playstyles. I'll give it a chance but after BDO's combat, sandbox and lifeskills I'm not confident I'll stick with T&L guild centric system where you're pressured to contribute all the time long term.

[@ratedxvn]

@@Oryyyt I love this opinion. Feels actually thought out. I myself play Albion which can be ZvZ oriented. I will probably love this game. You are correct, game is not for everyone and thats totally fine im prepared tp play with 5-25k players 3 months after launch...

[@Oryyyt]

@@ratedxvn It has huge potential. Just needs more love and attention. Nothing updates and patches can't fix. Massive guild politics and conflicts sounds interesting. lol

[@duychau536]

This game reminds me of TERA, also a korean mmorpg, gameplay and mechanics look so similar, I've been dying for a new mmorpg to come out to replace TERA which unfortunetly died.

[@reeanimationgaming1034]

This video was fantastic put together. It felt like I got all the information I need, served to me with nice editing too ❤️👍

[@iamcerealman102]

Hopefully more flavours will be added to the weapon varieties in the future

[@ratedxvn]

I heard they plan on adding more weapons to the game I think they said they are working on a Spear weapon

[@iamcerealman102]

@@ratedxvn Oh nice, I love spears

[@jessesenpai6473]

new combat update looks really dope

[@Fallenangel0w0]

Is there a way to aim a bow and do more damage by getting headshots? Can you zoom in far enough to appear first person and have an "action cam"?

[@continuepopping]

Love your honest opinion, not like other KZbinrs that has nothing else to do than to lie to their audience.

[@WorisonTV]

I live in Morocco and I don't have this game available in my region lol.

[@Oryyyt]

TY for going in-depth! Love how you elaborated on the different content like the creative quests and events. That's sounds very appealing to me.

[@Its_Kioh]

This was the exact video i've been looking for. Thank you very much for the time and effort put into this.

[@djlancer88]

man o man I didnt catch it until the last day of the beta but I was pleasently surprised and pretty excited for it to launch

[@cyrusamin5299]

Wait will the early access servers be forever separate or just temporarily? Just cuz I like collecting cool stuff like this or stupid titles in games when I have nothing better to do, so I really want to get early access, but not if the servers are separate, that's lame

[@cantrip7]

Love your game reviews/overviews. Detailed, well-organized, and with a great balance of feature descriptions and personal experience.

[@sethayun7191]

Thank you for the review this was exactly what I was looking for. Covered every point that matters in MMO gameplay objectively. I personally had a lot of fun from lvls 1 - 20. I only had 3 days to play kind of craving it now.

[@GrentonCasts]

As someone who has played since KR launch this is -FINALLY- a good and well laid out review of the game! Well done, thank you :)

[@alien2115]

Finally a decent review without prejudice and with some actual insight into the game. Just one thing about the p2w aspect. TL economy is designed around the whales, there is no way to get Lucent in game without spending real money. Without ppl spending, there will be no Lucent in economy and auction house would be useless, so server without spenders would die pretty fast. It is not bad or good design, it is something new, so we will have t osee how it turns out in a longrun.

[@FutherGaming]

Imagine no classes. That's the best idea ever, be whoever f u want, your spells are not limited by whatever you chose at the begining, equipment makes you who you want to be and skill points. Brilliant.

[@psddesignernet]

love that bosses actually have mechanics... idk why big arpg games cant implement anything like this only korean games

[@insansiregar6158]

since this is a beta, will our progress lost and start from 0 all over again when the game launch officially, or can we continue from where we left off?

[@Med1uma]

I just got the game but how can i play it? It says playable September 17

[@hashtagisaacweaver1999]

If you missed the beta, you can either wait till September 17th, or (what I’m going to do) purchase the early access pack for $40 and start on the 12th.

[@Med1uma]

@@hashtagisaacweaver1999 i have already the early access pack

[@bacassa]

any chance you can find out about the D & D E5 MMO from Hidden Path? been waiting since March 2020 & cannot find out hardly any info what's going on, maybe you can please? TYVM!!!

[@chancer194]

I messed with so many different settings and I could not get the game to be unblurry. But overall, the game is pretty awesome.

[@bsoda69]

hi can you spill your PC build for throne and liberty?

[@igrilledhnc]

WoW doesn't even remove the middle man, there are items that are huge iLvl jump directly on the market. And with a little effort and alot of cash you can pay for someone else to craft you big gear jumps as well.

[@mattlong5746]

Just like every nc soft game its able to hook you in the beginning my only concern is end game content since that is where they fumbled in blade and soul, and a couple of other mmos. The game play is pretty smooth and the character creation is decent. I love the travel options when morphing into a bird or a wolf or a fish. Cant wait to play large scale battles in pvp. Everything is really well done from what i have seen so far and the fact that there are no classes to mess around with is great. As for the pay to play issue that is something im used to dealing with on other mmos but honestly its not as bad as it seems.

[@melonadegg]

Finally a decent review, thanks. So sick of stupid clickbaiting reviews from people who played for 10h and read an article, also so much negativity around TL just to farm views and clicks when the game is actually fun and has a lot of potential, really enjoyed the beta and cant wait for full release.

[@hashtagisaacweaver1999]

I already had my free to play experience with the open beta, so I don’t mind the early access pack!

[@JoseHernandez-oj8sq]

If I purchse the early access pack, can I already play the game?

[@myootemay]

I'm excited to play and go further into the game. I didn't know about the open beta testing so I only got to play for like 4 hours before they closed. As far as p2w goes, I don't mind it at all because you'll know who whales and who actually plays the game.

[@nocturnal_nick1]

Definitely gonna give this game a try! I’m waiting for the official release date. I’ll be playing OSRS until then!

[@AlexCJava]

You've made a really good overview of the game! Thank you so much!

[@Visher]

I've played WoW for 20 years and will continue when the WW comes out. But this game was great for the few hours I tried it, one of the best looking MMOs out there. The scenery, art, animations, skills, etc are all A or S tier. I really felt immersed in the world and can't wait for September. Question though, with the early access servers; are people who don't get EA editions able to join those servers if they choose? Like say, I get EA and my buddy doesn't, can he not join me after those five days? I sure hope that's an option. Would definitely split the community if it's not.

[@Jolsn]

Anyone can join the early access servers, the only restriction is that early access characters can't transfer to regular servers for some time.

[@Visher]

@@Jolsn Ah okay, that's good. I'll probably get EA then. Thanks!

[@hisgames736]

for me who tested it on Korean server with total 40h ,lvl 52 the short answer is YES, the game good

[@spurs_7798]

I just hope the devs will be real open and communicative, so a healthy community can grow.

[@CorlaxCory]

Love the idea of waiting for the regular servers .

[@UrSammich]

This game was fun for certain. While I didn't hit max, I did get close and played a fair bit to get a feel, but not enough to spoil anything. While their isn't a class system, there is certainly a role system depending on what weapon combo you choose. At first I played a crossbow longerbow dps, but I found the playstyle wasn't good for me as I kept dying and because my gear and points were all over the place. So I made another character which was sword and shield wand combo aka the paladin build which favored better and I enjoyed it more. So I can be a tank with off healing and buffs to aide. I actually ended up only doing one dungeon (cause I didn't understand how partying worked) which was that lvl 30 and totally got confused by the boss not knowing you needed to morph in battle. :/ Most of the story I got through fine other than the sandworm which gave me the most struggle as a tank. I think if I had leveled a bit more and got to 37 I might have been able to handle it a tad better. I was 35 and I only beat the boss after several attempts by having it glitch/stuck in the wall. I couldn't use any of my melee attacks and had to use shield throw the entire time other than weaving and doging. So yeah not certain the best method, but it worked. I do think there are a few bugs that need fixing like some story related quests not properly working. I don't really like the auction house being a pay to buy/win. Specially given how lithographs were the hardest thing for me to get crafting wise. Material wasn't an issue, but getting the lithographs were specially when they don't always drop or are in contracts. I did see later you could buy them with contract coins for I think like 500? Otherwise I wish the house was more gold coin based as I ended up having a large chunk of change and not really spending it as much other than mostly healing items and upgrades. Overall this was nice change and finally nice to have a mmo to play even though it is NC soft which is mixed. Still wish they didn't kill off Tera. :/

[@Jolsn]

Some weapon combos seem much worse for solo content. Staff + Wand especially felt really weak sometimes, but was great in group content. I think it's very much support oriented, with the staff having spells to increase your mana to then spend on the wand abilities like group heals and debuffs. Sword Shield + Wand also sounds very support oriented. From what I've seen and heard, Greatsword + Sword Sield is a great bruiser combo where you're able to deal great damage while also frontlining. What I really like is that the attributes, despite what they sound like, don't limit you to a certain playstyle or weapon combo. If I had to guess, the most in-demand weapon combos will be the weird ones, since everyone will be going for obvious things like Staff + Wand, Greatsword + Sword Shield, Crossbow + Dagger and so on. But something like Staff + Dagger or Greatsword + Dagger can also work great.

[@WumboJumbo]

Trying to switch to this game from 10 years of Destiny. I'm really hoping this game will fill that void of "new games just suck"

[@Kumari_44]

Destinys crucible still has me beyond hooked lol. But i deffo have soace for a new pve mmo.

[@sum1337]

@0:25 you're a plague doctor Harry!

[@BlakeNight]

Is this tab targeting, or skill shot?

[@Jolsn]

There are two targeting modes, one is a classic tab targeting and one is an action mode where you can control your target by looking at them. Some abilities are skillshots too

[@jamessmootjr1814]

Great video and much appreciated, however regarding combat, you didn’t mention your opinion on Skill Expressions. Was it present in the OBT?

[@Jolsn]

If it''s the system where you can change the skills, that wasn't included. Looks interesting though.

[@psddesignernet]

if there are no season, no alting then im jumpin in for sure, looks good even tho i dislike the combat system , maybe it grows on me with time

[@Deanodabrat]

I’m unbelievably excited for this game I’m just loving everything I’m seeing about it 😍🥰 I missed the open beta but I cannot wait for the game to come in September 🥰

[@snethss]

Oooof. Literally pay to win with that Auction House.

[@karlmader9153]

Great video, thank you very much! Are you kind of forced to participate in PvP at some point or can you play PvE indefinitely?

[@Jolsn]

PvP is the main endgame, but you can avoid it entirely if you want.

[@aitokai]

Hey! I cant get into the game I get to character creation screen and it says I get disconnected. I tried every solution that others recommended on forums but still nothing. Can anyone help me? Not much of the beta left but I want to try it :(

[@Calmload96]

I'm sorry I can't help. Cause it's worth the try

[@JunSakuraiXIV]

You lost me at "Korean". Without watching the video, I expect egregious monetization at some point.

[@riseofempiresriseofempires1102]

Is pvp balanced between PC and Console players? Or Console players are underpowered

[@gaalattila829]

Enjoyed it up to level 30, then got killed easily even by lower level enemies, should he able to purchase better armor without having to grind for dumb materials, only rare item I had was my staff.

[@BlackYellow_s7]

What I hear is more of a skill issue you have

[@TheGearSol]

7:29 Guild Wars 2 listening to this be like: 🗿

[@kaanarmutcu6740]

Ikr I remember when there were no mounts that you had to explore whole world by walking and jumping. It was actually the most fun stuff ever.

[@ThePandaSupreme]

I’ll for sure be playing… seems like it will be fun with friends even if it’s not the best thing ever

[@chrisvalen]

Go cooldown, an gear with mana gen and crit... strength in stats and you can destroy EVERYTHING fast!!! I Got to 50 with 2 characters. An im a casual with a full time job. The only thing I HATED, was the morphing flying I kept dying. And the little puppet thing following me was annoying

[@euvanzone3986]

Looks like we'll still play Black Desert Online.

[@inkwyvern5171]

'it's not pay to win, it's just that players who pay, win'

[@herekongato]

Excited to play this on xbox, thanks for the review

[@slitandsnipe]

So you don't reccomend early access, but what if you want the bonuses? And then your friends don't? Are you forever stuck on different servers?

[@BlackYellow_s7]

It's obviously not forever separated, or else there would be no point in having early access items to begin with. It's just that both servers will be separated for a while... I guess a few weeks.

[@eviljuice1774]

The main issue i have, is there is NOT one MMO, that does NOT have an inflated auction house, *(keep in mind its still very new, soon enough, those items will be flooding the auction house as more players get geared, they will be placing them in the auction house)* . soon enough you will start to see the auction house grow out of hand and since its tied to your wallet/card. it will be no time before the abuse takes hold and the whales will start to flood the game.. it will happen, T&L did a great job of hiding their P2W system, at a glance it does not look bad, but once you start to really look at it, you can see it will be a mess in no time...

[@przemisio1]

I tried playing it but I keep crashing because of the Unreal engine and I have no idea how to fix it :c

[@micki6491]

I had constant crashes too and I was able to fix them by changing the shader preloading setting to high Instead of Epic. I Know the beta is over but it Might be useful for others Later in september.

[@RahzZalinto]

actually...if you're on an early access server, isn't it at least a tiny bit less likely to have bots? maybe...maybe not... :P

[@donteah1706]

Have access to Steam Open Beta - Happy days

[@kingdomVI]

I believe guilds can control castles and that alone is just competitive gameplay to keep castles or get castles at least those players will stay for a bit

[@uglyfoox8964]

Is this game both pve and pvp? Does it force PvP?

[@Jolsn]

The endgame is very heavily PvP focused, but you can avoid it if you don't want to engage with it.

[@effyvanity]

Thank you for mentioning that WoW is pay to win, It's disgusting and the apologists to a pay to win system are maybe even worse than the company that implement it.

[@maqseedal-maqseed3196]

when it will be released in EU

[@denjii9]

about the auction house, the best gear was rarely ever put on the market because people keep them since its actually needed, and you still have to farm all the enchants so its probably not gonna be a massive gap between players since whales have to put the time in to farm upgrades anyway

[@Jolsn]

I think that's mostly due to it being early on tbh, I want to see it a few weeks in

[@denjii9]

@@Jolsn i was just going by how its been in korea, nothing was on the market during beta

[@eviljuice1774]

The main issue i have, is there is NOT one MMO, that does NOT have an inflated auction house, **(keep in mind its still very new, soon enough, those items will be flooding the auction house as more players get geared, they will be placing them in the auction house)** . soon enough you will start to see the auction house grow out of hand and since its tied to your wallet/card. it will be no time before the abuse takes hold and the whales will start to flood the game.. it will happen, T&L did a great job of hiding their P2W system, at a glance it does not look bad, but once you start to really look at it, you can see it will be a mess in no time...

[@denjii9]

@@eviljuice1774 the only silverlining is that whales still do have to put just as much time in to grind upgrade materials for the gear on top of all their skills, and T&L korea is making a catchup server before the new expansion with increased drop rates and exp for gear and mats and that server will be merged to existing ones for free so it seems that theyre paying attention to how the progression has been going for everyone the past few months and trying to keep it fair, hopefully it doesnt get as bad as some other games

[@VARDUC211]

Hahaha you sounds funny

[@harymendrez7196]

Im a sure there will be also the Pvp gears that you cannot buy from auction, you can only buy it with pvp points.

[@ThisIsRusko]

That fact that we don't have any voice options for our character is so irritating. EVERYONE sounds the same. I hope they implement voice options soon. Very soon

[@temprex2721]

wow thanks for mentioning the servers will be split between the early access and normal players. I was going to get the early access but now I won't lol

[@punkmaster4718]

The monetization in this game doesn’t seem to be any worse than it is Warframe. also seems that if you are dedicated enough to the grind you can play this game 100% free

[@0Synergy]

Its hard to shit on the monetization system because it sounds literally just like Warframe's Platinum. As long as its reasonable to grind out the premium currency.

[@Katzh]

so if I get early access, and my friend doesn't we can't play togheter? we're gonna be on 2 different server?

[@madebygleatch]

if you both buy the early access packs you will play together, if only you buy the early access pack the chances are way lower that both of you will be playing on the same server together

[@Katzh]

@@madebygleatch it's sounds such a wierd way to go. People were not able to play with each other in Once Human on release because of the server thing, they had to fix it. in some mmo, you have interserver feature, to play some content with people from other server. there are also big community that will end up splited up between server, that suck.

[@madebygleatch]

@@Katzh yeah i mean dont get me wrong, you will be able to que up with your friend for dungeons or so as interserver feature aswell, you just wont be able to constantly see each other and party up for event grind or regular mob farming you know what i mean, but yeah to be honest the early access packs arent really worth it imo, you get the skins and all but thats really it, not a real value that would benefit you ingame or so

[@curiouskid3216]

From Lost Ark to Throne and Liberty! See ya'll in NAW release.

[@mattgenaro]

Best MMO to launch in years.

[@traviscue2099]

I felt that the melee felt "on rails" in terms of it felt clunky to attack enemies when your skills forced moved you. I didn't hate it, since I saw potential... but it didn't keep me that invested sadly. The graphics are lovely thogh

[@insta-dead3995]

Tip: u can turn "auto move on attack" Off in menu ! 1st setting I changed :)

[@wowfoelifewarcrack3297]

Same seen bad reviews I said screw it let me try it an 35hrs later im blown away how good it is an fun 09/12 let's go

[@givinatsvlishvili3209]

Really good game, Amazing graphics and really good gameplay pvp, story, world is interesting to explore and feels amazing when you travel

[@ghost_rabbit4870]

Reminds me of black desert but way better

[@authenticzee]

Only thing I hate is the battle pass system. It should be paid by subscription. That way players can invest in the content for certain. In return, we get a great game as good as FF14. Non-FPS Battle-pass games don’t have longevity. Allow us to invest fully in the game.

[@catalineu77]

Love world love the vibe love the mechanics,i only wish it will be on gforce now

[@xasur]

Nice Video, hows the performance of the game? :D

[@Jolsn]

Runs pretty smooth honestly, I had some stutters when running fast and gliding but I think that's down to things loading seamlessly in the background rather than the demanding graphics. For how it looks it's really well optimized

[@heroblake6572]

Best optimized mmo I’ve played to date. It’s so smooth with a ton of players running around. That’s what the game does well.

[@liebkraft9950]

it's very well optimized but you still need a somewhat beefy pc, especially a good cpu when lots of players are around. but honestly, for how this game looks and how much it draws on the screen, it runs amazing, even on hardware that's a couple years old. (ryzen 5600x, 16gb, 3060ti here)

[@Ash4eTo]

Definitely going to try this one. GW2 vibes... I'm on it like shit on Velcro!

[@Velstat141]

trust me, thats insulting to gw2.

[@HadleyMarshall]

This mmo was originally meant to be a mobile exclusive right

[@KaL1806]

This game feels and looks outdated already. I was so impressed by the character creation, but everything that followed made me more and more depressed about the state of the MMO genre. How is it, that MMO's releasing in 2024 look and feel much worse than MMO's that originally released in 2014. I feel like the moment we try to justify games like this, we do something that shouldn't be done. This game isn't getting compared to games like Black Desert Online for no reason, cause it shows how even Korean Game developers aim for mediocracy. Black Desert Online is still the standard for graphics and combat in MMORPG's, despite being 10 years old. So why do we still just accept, that games coming out now look worse and have such terrible combat system? And i can already see people going "oh, but those are different companies, u can't compare that." Ok Kevin, let me tell u something. There is a game called "Blade and Soul", that has one of the best combat systems in the MMO genre. U want to know something? Blade and Soul was made by the same company as Throne and Liberty and yet Throne and Libertys combat system is a crime against anyone who values things like that. It's worse than World of Warcraft, which was released 20 years ago. Why are we sitting here, even arguing if Throne and Liberty is worth playing? Why are we even asking this question? Throne and Liberty flopped in South Korea and it's widely known, that the game is heavily p2w and filled with bots. Why are we even asking this question? Stop be so delusional and wake up. Stop support games like this, that clearly just got released to make a little money, before shutting it down after 2 years, when even the last person realized how bad the game is. Every MMO has it's problems, but Throne and Liberty might be one of the worst MMO's on that scale. P2W and not the best graphics is one thing, but terrible combat system in 2024 and a bot problem is unacceptable and only the tip of the iceberg. So is Throne and Liberty any good? No. Move on.

[@JerDog1984]

Excellent review, thanks

[@Fanoris]

Why does this game look like the only pay to win i would ever play lmfao

[@Justinwillcook]

looks very cool! big fan of lineage 1 tbp.

[@GrayBeardFPS]

The payed currency you can earn as a free to play player sounds good to me. Sure its p2w but so are most mmo's today including wow.

[@jheigl1980]

The Conflict mode you mentioned was a bit chaotic and I didn't get the point of it, cause nobody could kill boss, people just pvp'd and the time run out. 🤷‍♂ I joined 3 times, 3 times the same pointless pvp.

[@Jolsn]

Yeah the conflict boss is a bit weird lol

[@prpshrt]

"Currency you can buy using real money". RIP The wow comparison also doesn't hold up because it's still easier to catch up to at the very least hard mode raids quickly in about 6 weeks. If this is the exact same then I'll eat my words on a sandwich but seems unlikely.

[@thesacred953]

It's lineagelike game which was a king of p2w and grinding.