Thrust Vectoring Monster | F-22 Raptor Vs Rafale DOGFIGHT | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@highlander723]

4:10 All of that for a drop of blood.

[@battlefieldmemer2861]

@GrowlingSidewinder Can you fly the rafale.

[@AnhLe-yp9bb]

can you do f22 vs f22 ?

[@tmytyson]

Battle of the Canards: A dogfight battle royale featuring (at a minimum) the Dassault Rafale, Eurofighter Typhoon, JAS39 Gripen, and SU30SM Flanker-H. May the best 'nard win.

[@aviatron01]

I wish i could get the name of that soundtrack you used in the first kill replay i would literally use it as my ringtone

[@crookedwookie8782]

The only thing better than watching GS flying an F22 is watching him getting increasingly furious fighting AGAINST the F22.

[@ericbennett376]

I'm your 69th like

[@lmcg9904]

211th for me

[@windrunner-dx9hq]

"Would you intercept me? I'd intercept me"

[@johnkruton9708]

GS fury is awarded to his dripping disdain for no gun on the F4 brick I mean Phantom.

[@OrionSeas]

@@windrunner-dx9hqwait what’s that from? It sounds like a GS quote but idk which video

[@grinnellidesigns]

If I had a dollar for every plane GS shot down with the F-22 I wouldn't need to make modules to earn a living!! Nice video. 10/10 disrespect heater in round 3!!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

The hero himself. Thanks for bringing the f22 to DCS brother. A huge gift to the community.

[@Acrophobia2]

You have hands down made the best mod!!!

[@TheRealAaronSmith]

Man, I don't even play DCS(yet) but I love and appreciate that you brought it to us all none the less.

[@bleakambition495]

I know you didn’t wanna release the TVC version, but pretty pleaseeeeee 😂😂😂

[@theboosted5hoe]

We want TVC 🥲

[@nuzzyfutzz]

The way the F22 can swing it's nose around is simply amazing. Another great video!

[@ig-anzros01]

Reality is different

[@Kenny-yl9pc]

@@ig-anzros01 From what I have seen it can do plenty of incredible nose turns, through its superb design, avionics to control the flight surface perfectly and of course its 2d nozzle.

[@thekaorucat]

@@ig-anzros01 yeah it probably does easier nose turns in reality XD

[@stripes7558]

As a french, I have to say that anyone thinking the Rafale is better than the F-22 is blinded by their pride. Both aircrafts have different goals. The F-22 is one of, if not the best air dominance fighter, while the Rafale aimed for a more versatile approach, being able to carry a lot more tasks than the F-22. Where the F-22 does not shine, the Rafale does, same goes for the opposite.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

What a wonderful comment. Nice to see some mental sobriety lol.

[@ACapella5597]

As a French too, thanks for putting into words exactly what I've been meaning to tell for ages! Both are very capable aircraft, they just don't serve the same purposes..

[@briochetressee1676]

Same goes for F-22 fans trashing the Rafale

[@truthseeker9454]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Yes! It would be great to see a NATO mission video featuring these two planes working together sometime.

[@FGOjeda-wl3pu]

But the rafale is prettier, what a nice design

[@XFSAngelOfDeath]

Whoever was flying that rafale knows what they're doing. Props to them

[@dragondaan8668]

I disagree, that rafale pilot was flying very poorly.

[@Ankhobo]

F-22: "That's a fancy looking spy balloon you got there"

[@ivanandriyanov4426]

This video just says, "It's not about plane, it's about pilot. But God damn this thing is too OP."

[@bleakambition495]

The fact that the raptor can pitch without speed is such an advantage, you don't need to take gravity and stalling into account nearly as much, it just slid behind the bandit's tail in the first one!

[@bleakambition495]

@@Tractorboy_19 LOL

[@mmccarthy9458]

The F 22 is the most insane dogfighter-interceptor ever built!

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

Would’ve been cool to have seen the proposed naval variant. F-22C or F-22N Sea Raptor

[@77advanced]

In US)

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

@@77advanced just in general objectively even after all these years

[@bluefox9436]

​@@ICECAPPEDSKY the Navy usually writes out their own project since they put their emphasis on slightly different criterias - the F35 was the 1st attempt of generalizing the needs of all branches in one plane. Also the F22 is really not that big of a bully by todays standarts anymore and a good amount of planes like the Su 35, EF or Su 57 can take the F22 on in a dogfight. Due to the Stealth it still excels in BVR fights but stealth is not nearly as strong as it seems in all the DCS videos and with radar systems everywhere getting more and more sophisticated it's more of a radar range limiter than a invisibility cloak these days.

[@legendary4570]

@@bluefox9436by most estimates, an S-400 missiles system radar is not able to track an F-22 until it is about 35 miles from it. If a radar array more powerful than what any fighter jet carries can’t see a raptor until it’s that close I don’t think any fighter jet would be able to track a raptor until it’s too late, even with IRST due to how the raptor reduces its heat signature and it’s engines are hidden internally.

[@Arkavian1191]

I'd love to see you in a F22 vs F22 fight. It would be epic.

[@TheRealAaronSmith]

This like suggestions needs more likes for the hope the GS sees it

[@desperatetogetsomehoes]

He's already done that

[@traviswalker8933]

He already did that last year if you search in the videos.

[@Nesten321]

search for flat spin kill and you'll find his f22 vs f22 vid he did 2 years ago

[@BrendonjacobDedace]

Pretty sure F22 would win that one

[@robertsantillan984]

I live about 5 miles above the take off runway here in Honolulu. There is a squadron of f22s that I watch take off. They fly over my house to land. Extremely impressive when they shoot straight vertical. Good job.

[@Backseatercomedian]

Love how everyone saw that video and was like "oh my god the rafale is better" then GS comes out here like: "nah It's not the plane, its the pilot... but the plane definitely helps"

[@ACapella5597]

no one says the rafale is better lol

[@Backseatercomedian]

From where I’ve seen, there has been some shit talking

[@andrewwiggins9262]

@@Backseatercomedianwell it obviously wasn’t a lot of it

[@n.w.1803]

The whole point of the F-22's existence, it's whole "raison d'etre," if you will, is to make every average pilot into an ace... Sure, it's always possible for a truly superior and experienced pilot (and that level of experience is traditionally very hard won) to exploit some weakness with some stronger point of his or her own aircraft and/or tactical position, which is why the Raptor is designed to give away as few weaknesses as possible. It's just good everywhere. In fact, better in every regime of flight and combat than just about anything else flying or contemplated. And some regimes (6G turns at 60,000ft, at Mach 1.2, anyone? Bueller..?) it has almost entirely to itself. But! There's only about 180 of the things.

[@mcblaze1968]

I hope NGAD has some F-22 dogfighting genes in it, because it's beautiful.

[@Shwobblywobbly]

3:40 is absolutely insane how you enter a 2 circle with tha rafeal behind you and 8 seconds later you are offensive, that thing just turns.

[@simplydarkhalf3974]

Even in training the f22 pilots limit themselves as to not show off the full capabilities of the aircraft. There's still a lot not known about the f22

[@Lucas-ys7gl]

There is a whole breakdown on CW Lemois (something like that) channel about this training. Pilot skill and experience matters a ton but no aircraft is undefeated in training scenarios. A-10s used to humble rookie F-16 and F-18 pilots all the time.

[@heatblast876]

Or maybe it shows the full capability of the F22, and the pilot tries to depend itself on the enemy aircraft.

[@antonydecosta6262]

Yes alien technology

[@left_ventricle]

Gotta love the selective belies.

[@JazzJaRa]

Same with Eurofighter, Gripen, Rafale, Su-35, Mig-29 Pilots.

[@Krommer1000]

I never tire of F-22 videos. Never.

[@RookFox]

is it just me or do you usually not push the F-22 that hard, at least I don't remember seeing it turning that hard. Same with the Rafale pilot, pushing that thing really well.

[@woutervossebeld4664]

I agree with you, in thah second round GS really pushed the f22 hard. As if he was trying to really hammer home his point lol.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Ya I was deff giving her all she’s got in this one.

[@IwishIknewmore26]

Yes, but in a real life or death fight there are no rules. You push your body "weapon" until you die or win.

[@PLONG12345]

is f22 WVR capabilities accurate in DCS tho?

[@RookFox]

@@PLONG12345 if I understand correctly, it's the best estimate from publicly available information.

[@brosefmalkovitch3121]

The amount of AOA the raptor can pull is unreal.

[@NationChosenByGod]

It can point its nose at will in any direction with its control surface alone.

[@antonydecosta6262]

It is unreal indeed. ....

[@wadewilson6628]

Having been in the Military I can tell you a lot of times training scenarios aren't about "winning" they about instilling confidence in the weapons and tactics you are using. So sometimes the "target" is informed to not perform at the the best of its ability to give the "enemy" confidence. I comes down to "If you think you can do it, you can."

[@TurboMcAwesome]

always a good sign when the highlight replay is just the whole fight.

[@botondsipos3341]

9:38 Rafale has a pretty strong fuselage. It got dozens of 20mm hits and an aim-9x a few seconds later... And still it does not disintegrate.

[@EAGLE-y4t]

The same thing happens with the Su-57...

[@thepilotman5378]

I love how even though the specs for the F-22 are completely unknown, in this sim, it flies very close to the real thing. You look at it from externals and it just looks like the laws of physics that command other airplanes are commanded by the F-22

[@xTwistedFleshX]

Completely unknown specs Flies very close to the real thing What?

[@F-18..Hornet]

⁠@@xTwistedFleshXhe’s saying like compared to seeing the real thing fly at air shows and shit like that, it’s movement in dcs is similar looking without knowing the specs. If you read it and had common sense, you’d put two and two together.

[@thedyingmeme6]

​@@F-18..Hornetyep. saw a 22 demonstration a few months ago. That thing flew like IT commanded physics, not the other way around

[@Ob1sdarkside]

The Rafale getting some shots in, is the equivalent to me poking a bear with my little finger. It only ends one way

[@wheelcha1rman2]

The forward visibility in the 22 is so good.

[@haroldbesswhitehawg7328]

Your best quote ever, “he made me bleed my own blood.” Lmfao! Ben Stiller would be proud.

[@blacklake13]

Impressive how accurately they captured the specularity of the F-22. It and F-35 have a very atypical coating.

[@jayhafe]

These modern fighters fly like a leaf falling out of a tree in a stiff wind. Amazing.

[@Xhill14]

Can you do Rafale vs Mirage please?

[@PFSquirrel]

@@retxxrns2436 DCS flight model? I feel like the Rafale would own the Mirage every time unless pilot error

[@YuFow]

@@PFSquirrelthe mirage in DCS has the best turn rate of any of the standard modules, even better than the F-16. It is unrealistically good.

[@PaisleyWright-d8g]

Whoever was flying that rafale knows what they're doing. Props to them. F-22: "That's a fancy looking spy balloon you got there".

[@treeWasNice]

Day 106 of asking for AH-64 Apache versus Su-57 Felon

[@thebugmonster38]

C'mon GS, do it

[@adasaddas]

join the cult

[@Casual7646]

It's going to be a tough fight, but you deserve it after all this work. respect

[@hamid.s.zolfagari]

Gs just wont care

[@timothysysko]

How about SU-25 V SU-57? You’ve done A-10 V F-22 before. Might as well do the Russian version.

[@aviationist1018]

Why? He did it because A-10 can sometimes turn tighter than F22

[@aviationist1018]

He even explained it in the video of how it can sometimes turn tighter

[@timothysysko]

@@aviationist1018Because why not? Sometimes it’s just fun to see the ridiculous. But based on your attitude, you probably don’t know what fun is

[@Volstrekthoon]

That has to be one of the best videos of the f22 no lose on the raptor side 4 loses on the rafale absolutely amazing I love the f22 and your videos keep up the good work

[@ethanwenters8369]

man that was an beautiful and deadly dance

[@derdoofedoofmann]

I really think that a cinematic shot of your "victory dance" to the deck would have been dope aswell! (I dont know how much work the cinematics are) But nevertheless…all the cinematics look just incredible. Keep up the great work!

[@farve23]

"just an F-22 doing F-22 things" Perfectly covered it!. Haha... Awesome!.

[@averagegamer1684]

Another thing to note. Is that when the f-22 is fighting outside of us airspace, or fightong mock battles against our advisories, the plane actually gets its performance nerfed. (Cants pull as high of g's engine power limited, radar cross section bigger) so that the full capabilities remain classified even to our allies. This limiting of abilities actually became a problem as the pilots were becoming less proficient with the f-22 with prolonged flying alongside allies lol

[@shutnugget4310]

In all training exercises with the f22, they specifically tell the pilots to not fly the plane to its fullest potential. The pilots have to go through hours of retraining afterwards to instill proper f22 tactics. Raptor pilots hate doing joint training exercises for this reason.

[@JazzJaRa]

Could be said for every aircraft Eurofighter, Gripen, Rafale, Su-35, Mig-29 Pilots getting told to not fly the aircraft to its fullest potential.

[@vczs]

​@@JazzJaRanot quite the same thing though.

[@bluefox9436]

​@@vczswhat should be different about that? Also they could just overstate the capabilities of their aircraft to try and intimidate potential enemies - If my plane really can do more than it seems I wouldn't want my enemy to know that.

[@JazzJaRa]

@@vczs why not? because the F-22 is an american jet? And americans say that their jets can transform into a star destroyers? In the end the F-22 is an aircraft like every other and can be shot down by any other aircraft.

[@vczs]

@@JazzJaRa no, not because of that. It's because that shit is heavily classified and most of the stuff you said was evaluated by different countries at different times which gives some idea about their performance.

[@brunol-p_g8800]

Keep in mind, that old video of a Rafale winning against an F-22 was in a limited performance old Rafale F1, ages away from today’s Rafale’s capabilities and when pilots where just transitioning to the Rafale and hadn’t yet much experience with the aircraft, or even the Rafale F2 capabilities. So props to that pilot👍🏻 An no, the Rafale didn’t start in the F-22s six, the starting in front of each other and engage after the merge as explained back then.

[@brunol-p_g8800]

So, an F-22 with fox 2 missiles against a Rafale without any missiles?

[@sgt.grinch3299]

The ending was completely disrespectful. Nice job GS.

[@Drago2600]

“Nobody makes me bleed my own blood”😂

[@heylookeveryoneitsjeff]

This felt personal... get wrecked frenchie!

[@abot4694]

Bro is so consistent and puts out so much awesome content I have to support. Man I know so much about DCS and just flying in general and never flown once. I don't think I could fly or do the things you do but I definitely understand why you do what you do. I learn so much from your videos!LESSSGOOOO GS !!!!

[@samduddington2886]

Do they have a Harrier Jump Jet in DCS? I'd love for you to show off its abilities. Sidebar, I really enjoy your educational commentary of the fights you are involved in.. No pomp, no fluster, just...what is happening as it is happening. It is clear, concise and very easy to follow, always reminding me what a one or two circle fight means is greatly appreciated while also giving a lot of respect to the other pilots that you fight against. This combined with the excellent content overall makes it very enjoyable to watch your videos, I’m glad I randomly stumbled across your channel on KZbin a few months ago.

[@itsdokko2990]

as a matter of fact, the Harrier is available in DCS, and GS has made a couple of videos with it

[@sparky4878]

He’s done a few videos with the Harrier. Worth a watch if you look them up.

[@SakoRichards]

He’s done quite a few AV-8b vids, viffing included. I don’t even play dcs, just an avgeek with a few hundred hours of seat time, but GS has taught me so much about BFM/ACM I’ve been able to hold conversations with actual fighter pilots. Grab a beverage and get to binging, he’s got the knowledge and persona to keep you entertained for weeks.

[@samduddington2886]

The harrier is one of my favourite aircrafts after the spitfire. I’m fairly new to the channel so I haven’t had chance to check out his back catalogue yet so I’m glad to hear there’s some jump jet content. Thanks guys 😊

[@itsdokko2990]

@@samduddington2886 it is a magnificent bird, no doubt. one of my favorites too

[@Mobius118]

These fights were fun to watch, and I appreciate the boosted in game audio in this one!

[@johnsurguy3845]

Way to kick ass, i've been waiting for you to do this kind of video so the f-22 can toy with its prey. Great Job

[@man-o-war1685]

It’s been a year since I first commented this statement, but you’re still my most visited KZbin channel.

[@herrzimm]

Got the feeling that the footage of the "dog fight" was nothing but TRAINING, which explains why the 22 never did anything "radical" to escape lock or trying to position his own shot.

[@r2020E]

With the way the f22 can bleed energy, it can force an overshoot from most planes. It's just risky for training in terms of violating the bubble

[@nando03012009]

F22 pilots are instructed not to use the full capability of the aircraft. And clearly the rafale started the F22 six.

[@NationChosenByGod]

@@nando03012009 And the Rafale pilot had to push his aircraft to the limit because you can actually hear his heavy breathing just barely catching up to the F-22.

[@cpnj201]

I def enjoy when you swap aircraft after a few rounds. Sometimes it's nice to see both perspectives and skillets in the same video

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

"Fox two, birds away....GET BACK HERE" "EJECTING WONT SAVE YOU FROM ME"

[@JohnPaulHare]

Thumbs up purely for using the Battlefield 4 theme on that first kill in the F-22! Also, incredible flying there, just insane how it can flip so fast thanks to the incredible tech it has on board.

[@erikcourtney1834]

Yes finally some more f22 action

[@GM-fh5jp]

Good God, those 2 Disrespecto Flips at the end...are we *sure* there's no Area 51 shit in that F-22? What a beast ;)

[@sunseb5124]

How about flying the Rafale. Haven't seen you flying it yet, it would be interesting to see what you could do with it...

[@vampiredragon0754]

GS You’re just a plain good pilot.👍♠️👍.

[@murph3194]

If only a white shark hunting an injured seal could flare as it jumped out of the South African waters in arrogant celebration. lol That's what it's like watching the Raptor. I love it.

[@PFSquirrel]

F-22 + GS = fun all day long. Nice fight Rafale, but nothing really holds a candle.

[@kertaspaper94]

BTW that camera angle on that cinematic view on the first round kill looks almost exactly like the scene in the final episode of History Channel's Dogfights, when it shows Raptors fighting Rafales

[@chadkerwin4719]

GS, you should do this vid with Atae. (Forgive me if that's not how you spell his name)you know, the French fighter pilot you took on a couple of times. (great vids btw)You in the '22, him in the Raphael. That might be fun.

[@aldobernard9310]

I believe if you’re the one that should use the Rafale against F22 GS 😂 Then we can see the real survival fight and full capablity of the Rafale. So please if you may, use the Rafale against F22. Thank you GS! Really appreciate it!

[@rwarrior2542]

From what I heard, the F22 Raptor was lit up like a Christmas tree just so the Rafale could even pick it up on it's radar. lol Both the Rafale and the Eurofighter are just newer versions of the Mirage fighter jet. It's like the Europeans are stuck with that dorito chip design for a fighter jet. lol

[@Draceb]

I would really love to see you fly a sortie with a wing man and vs other groups to see how you fly in dogfights or BVR with a wing man to protect. Also f22 vs f22 would be sweet. i have also always wondered if you narrate these while your flying or after?

[@davecolwell725]

I've watched nearly every video he's released and in my experience I believe he narrates while he's flying

[@jasonkinser1082]

Jesus GS ... It's like your duck hunting with a loaf of bread and a hammer

[@chrisram3367]

Now you should swap planes and fight the F-22 with the Rafale just to figure out if it is a matter of planes or pilots

[@tankiplay5383]

Cool, now let's turn the tables. You in the Rafale 😅 (I'm pretty sure you can nail it)

[@Jay-O_Carlow]

GS " I Ain't got Time to Bleed " The Raptor is a straight up Predator

[@Nathan-vt1jz]

While it will be sad when the king passes his crown to the next generation of fighters - I look forward for to seeing the full capabilities of the F-22. Perhaps some air shows alongside the blue angels.

[@amandastevenson4948]

Refueling probe on Rafael looks to be taken from an ancient mirage 3

[@thunderwithchrissy]

gotta love how the f22 just stops in the air

[@swordmonkey6635]

A sign of F-22 dominance: GS: "He hit me. **laughs** He actually hit me. Ok. Let's finish him off." Pick the time and place. Shrug off opponent's blows and decide when the engagement will end.

[@EncasedinMjolnir]

GS... what the hell... you weren't even doing your best... letting the raptor take a hit! smh lol great video, man

[@zacharylucchetti3038]

F-22 is the king of the sky. Where the margin for error comes from is for sure the pilot.

[@garykirk1968]

Dude, the showing off at the end.. LOL 😂

[@MC_Allan]

Can you Please do the same dogfight but this time in the rafale ?

[@bobbyosborne2375]

This is the hardest ive seen you really push the f-22. AGGRESSIVE flying.

[@whalehands]

He was able to bring you in close and jink you almost every time

[@heathb4319]

"That is the best pirate...i mean pilot i have ever seen.

[@marvicty]

Dude, that whistle noise is crazy

[@gwcrispi]

You used my favorite movie line of all time... "you made me bleed my own blood".

[@jameslanning8405]

He seemed to have a problem gaining energy, after the merge. Now, after 3 kills on him, switch planes and go again!

[@AlexandruVoda]

Really liked this episode

[@kertaspaper94]

And it only took the Rafale pilot struggling like he's dying in order to get that kill in that video

[@WreckedRover]

Growl is flying different today. Dude is distracted.

[@fishyyoutube]

The F22 kill on round 1 looked awesome on the externals!

[@sleepingninjaquiettime]

A lot of the time the Internet gets stuck on who's the coolest and misses the point entirely.

[@knucker2730]

All i have in my head is "Would you Intercept me? I would Intercept me."

[@acesarge2]

I feel like any pilot who managed to score a gun hit on an F22 would grow 3 condom sizes instantly and never have to pay for a beer again.

[@glimftw7255]

I missed name of the Rafale pilot, props to them, nice flying

[@bruchmb]

Congratulations on 508,000+ subscribers... consistently great content!

[@therocinante3443]

The one thing - the sound effects need to be updated badly!

[@geostgmatic2278]

Sure is a whole lot of Rafale litter around the countryside today!

[@YourDeathrow]

That BF 3 soundtrack is awesome with this👍👍😮

[@user-bw6jg4ej2m]

*BF4

[@michaelold6695]

It looked like the pilot of the Rafale was pushing it pretty hard, it looked to me as if the jet departed flight a couple of times

[@irattarto]

Good to see, how you handle an "overdog" plane for a change :)

[@common_sense3245]

Again, I would love to see Sidewinder play WarThunder in the arcade setting

[@TurnnBurnn_Nation]

Watching GS fly now in comparison to when this vid was made, he is so much more efficient and lethal.

[@Spaz1NOuT]

Id love to see some more Gripen love with all the Eurocanards lately

[@dannycolwell8028]

Imagine you’re just puttin in your Prius and this is going on overhead

[@condor7964]

Now I'd be curious to see you do that same fight in the Rafale, really make you work for it.

[@cshan2313]

I feel like the whole thing about rafale being able to shoot down the raptor might also stem from the training doctorine of not doing 100% max performing the plane for security reasons i think?

[@TheRealAaronSmith]

That is likely correct.

[@jonathanpfeffer3716]

Also, generally when you are doing wargames you want to try your hardest to create scenarios that are really challenging for you. You don’t gain any useful knowledge from just curbstomping your enemy repeatedly, and these wargames are not cheap to put on. Good way to do this might be having the F22 start defensive in a wargame (hint hint).

[@JazzJaRa]

Same with Eurofighter, Gripen, Rafale, Su-35, Mig-29 who don't fly their aircraft to 100% max performance.

[@ShortArmOfGod]

@JazzJaRa The Rafael did that day.

[@erik5977]

@@ShortArmOfGodirl the rafale shoot down a f22 end of the discussion❤