TIG Welding Technique: Walking the Cup

[@BLOOSHT]

It’s a privilege to have two professional teachers in one video 🙏👏👏👏

[@manos3790]

Eurika! At last a YT instructional welding video, that contains a genuinely skilled/experirienced and knowledge welder and not a 'Charlatan Chancer' or an enthusiastic. I've been in the welding industry since 1985 and I know a fellow craftsman when I see or hear one talk of his craft. Bravo, bravo. Any newbies to welding need to watch and listen to this guy cos ' He knows his onions'👍

[@shannonfreeman4753]

My boyfriend and his buddy are welders and I feel like their speaking in some sort of Alien language when speaking of all the terms and Techniques, this channel really helped me understand and it's actually interesting. Thanks

[@Welddotcom]

always a pleasure

[@tjcampbell5609]

do you no any good tig welders in texas

[@sanaullhamz1562]

nice

[@squidVicious442]

what kind of welder? do u see him alot? im about to go back to school for welding in about a week. iv been reading alot and it looks like they travel alot and as dumb as it is im kind of worried about how its going to effect my chances at a normal relationship with my girlfreind

[@squidVicious442]

what kind of welder? do u see him alot? im about to go back to school for welding in about a week. iv been reading alot and it looks like they travel alot and as dumb as it is im kind of worried about how its going to effect my chances at a normal relationship with my girlfreind

[@toddpaulsen1396]

When I first saw walking the cup it looked easy enough but when I started practicing with my everlast I realized getting even ripples in the weld took a lot of practice.

[@76aussieguy]

ive been a plastics fabricator for about 20 years, learnt to braze, oxy, arc and mig weld in high school, but that was 25 years ago. so while i can weld plastic 5 ways, id probably blow myself up lighting up an oxy rig now. just wanted to say how cool it is to see how the other half live. these videos are quality... just like the welds. cheers

[@MTGrubbe]

I miss Bob so much on this channel, man's a natural teacher :(

[@superjojo555]

this isnt welding this is art

[@jonathancouch7779]

Cool art

[@SEBAINSTINCT2]

search on instagram mattiabross

[@RinkyRoo2021]

and yet again I learn more from youtube than the years spent in school .

[@prncreviews9293]

Im a beginner welder and been at it for 5/6 months in a Tech School in PR. Had to stop due to hurricane Maria for about 4 months into it. Theory has been crap but actual welding i can say they(proffesors) have done an awsome great job but theory based just lost so much time in the learning process that we just lost it. But thanx to this and other multiple channels ive been getting up o date. So thank u so much!

[@leowhite9276]

this is very informative. best i've seen. i did some tig 2 welding courses but the dutch NIL never learned me this. The teacher never wanted to tell the fine secrets of welding. i stopped welding because the lack of welding information they gave me. i really miss the smell of hot argon. thank you,

[@i.sirius6204]

YES! Thank you so much, for all of the awesome instructional content. I've been wishing to begin learning to weld for nearly thirty years. To this day, I've never laid my hands onto any type of welding outfit, but I've been searching out high quality content like yours, for the past two or three years, trying to become acquainted with the tools, components, and nomenclature of the welding trade. Of course it's probably not possible to learn everything I would need to learn to begin welding, but it's an invaluable primer to prepare one for the day when one finally has a chance to begin a welding course, or even just going out and buying a welder and going to it in their home workshop. I get really excited while watching these type of videos, but especially when it's produced by such talented welders and instructors. Your videos are top quality professional presentations, and I really love watching them. I just discovered your channel and subscribed to it about two weeks ago, and already I've learned a great deal from you guys. I have to agree with that last post, that those are some darn pretty welds you laid down with that cup walking technique. I can hardly wait to get back home to my shop in the States so that I can begin putting my hands on a welding outfit and getting busy. My shop already has a wiring circuit for a welder, I think it must be a 240V circuit, because it's clearly not in a location where you could put a clothes washer or dryer, which would be 220V, unless I'm mistaken? Thanks again for the effort and commitment that you guys have put into developing this fantastic channel and educational content. Have a great new year!

[@valerianpantsulia5137]

Great video and perfect explanation, thank you

[@eddiekawecki2510]

Excellent video. Very much enjoyed Bob's take on walking the cup. Now here's a welder that not only can talk the talk but has defiantly walked the walk or in this case walked the cup. Please invite him back as often as possible. Ed K. Cleve. Oh.

[@abrahamsaid3565]

hi am bob from france am an electrode welder your video helps me alot to weld in tig prosses (merci mr tig and god blessyou)

[@_MK_Machines.Co_]

🔥Always learning valuable information🔥

[@firetempered1]

Learned so much. I will try tomorrow! Excited!!!

[@bbw4lyf]

Female welder 😍😩

[@larrymasterspowerbuildingc4477]

Now this was a video! Thank you men for this excellent tutorial. I learned a ton!

[@jamvillarosa2450]

wow . very helpful ! ilove weld.com every night before i sleep i always watching im a fabricator and also fullwelder but only stick welding im very interested to learn more thankyou . godbless

[@ChrisB257]

Great demo - and super pretty beads too. :)

[@cigemp]

Mr Tig and Bob good video and explanation!

[@welding2222]

Tig weld is art

[@myronjohnson8899]

I really need to work on my walking the cup with my powertig. Need more hood time.

[@michaelcostello6991]

Thanks to you both for a very helpful demo

[@JohnnyRottenest]

His name is Mr. Tig? Wow, what a coincidence that he ended up being a welder.

[@pandarenBrewmaster62]

Where I used to work, there was a welder from Eritrea, and his name was Tewelde!

[@David.lovesU]

JohnnyRottenest Ever heard of Lonzo Ball? Player for the lakers

[@antoniolockett1809]

There was a guy I worked with as an aircraft mechanic whose last name was pilot... I think people with certain last names go for those jobs or something close to it on purpose...

[@stockloc]

pandarenBrewmaster62 Was his first name Ivan?

[@texaspipeliner9432]

You're not serious! Are you?

[@gasolinejunkie9762]

Thanks for posting...New to welding just a few projects done...not great....but hope to be proficient someday....Best to ya's!

[@dhirendramaharaj9407]

GASOLINE JUNKIE you need to find somebody who is willing to teach you from scratch step by step ...and explain why certain welds are performed they manner in which they are ...all the best bro ☺👍

[@airinlinlin5671]

my husband are welders his very exiting and proud if his got job for welding. his always talking bout his job to me and how bout the techniques of welder. dreams of my husband are welding under water

[@plus315]

Wow, that is just fantastic.

[@airinlinlin5671]

Plus 3 thanks... 😊

[@ginaforest3444]

thank you Mr tig~~ this video slove a big question about making a beautiful pass.

[@Welddotcom]

+Gina Forest Always glad to help

[@ginaforest3444]

+Weld.com A Big fan from far far far away 🙆

[@timothysvec8568]

Amazing looking weld's....thank you for sharing !

[@jeremiahhale5001]

Noticed the USMC on your hood Bob. Thank you for your Service and willingness to share your knowledge.

[@stevejames2142]

This is good info.. although it's worth being aware that it's not always acceptable, walking the cup can make scratches on the surface of the workpiece and for some employers/ customers can be rejected, in particular brushed or polished stainless surfaces. This technique definitely has its place and looks fantastic when it's done well like this.

[@NintenFan0900]

Would absolutely love to learn how to weld. It would make me eligible for more work at my current job. I'm glad to see the amount of content on this channel for free. Definitely going to see if I can start a certification program at my local college once I'm not working as much.

[@rossijohn1408]

Great looking welds, great technique, would love to see two or even three filler rods though!

[@igor_welder]

good video

[@mildlyupsetcat7989]

This is my fifth time watching this and I always wonder one thing. What lens do you guys use for the arc shots? The clarity of the arc and the surrounding area is amazing.

[@johnw.peterson4311]

Thank you. sharp men showing us how to.

[@wtfftw24]

Two masters in da weldind house!👍

[@nononsenselogic]

Semper Fidelis Bob.

[@dragontalontsiawd]

Semper Fi boss man Bob he's the reason why I came to comment on this channel. I was watching this on my TV, and saw his hood and saw the EGA, I'm retired front the Corps, but what about Bob?! Where did he go? What happened?

[@fuziladorblack6702]

i'm from BRASIL...congratulations for working...i am welding too ..thanks

[@TorTor323]

We are starting Tig this Monday, I'm excited to learn another process and gain another feather in my hat. To all the welders out there be safe and lay sexy beads 🤘

[@dexternengomasha7579]

really wish to walk the cup like u guys.thanks

[@mach.kazukoTV]

It is a wonderful welding Please also look at welding in Japan

[@howardyounger5456]

i welded steam piping for 30 years. that was cool you know your shit. i know the codes dont like running more then one rod . i ve ran as many as six. while walking the cup, on the cover pass. i like to think of it as rolling the barrel light touch is very important. never thought about pulling down slightly makes sence. great video.

[@hpshadesphillips7245]

great work and advice

[@treyogle1844]

Mr.tig, I am curious to see if you can walk the cup around a 1/2" sch 40 buttweld.

[@tonisiqueira9543]

Sim mestre uma bela aula de posicionamento de soldagem e qualidade de material como bocais lens e tungstênio amperagem também é fundamental no processo da soldagem obrigado pela orientação 🇧🇷🙏

[@FrustratedBaboon]

I now have two Lincoln Electric Mig welders and two Tig. The Migs are HD 100 and the Mig 180. Esab seems like they give you more features like the auto for when the sitck out gets impossible for the Lincolns ? I only have limited control over that.

[@gombakgirang7773]

Rest the cup > Do figure of 8 > Pull backward while going forward. Got it! Thanks, guys.

[@airsami28]

Bob reminds very me of my old boss old time welder who knows his stuff and don't ever suggest anything other then how he does it not in a bad way just someone you need to pay attention to because his time is more valuable then any class you will ever pay for

[@CHUPAP-1]

question about the filler rod . Is there any movement of the filler rod as the tungsten moving towards it? .Or does filler rod stay stationary as it is being deposited in to weld puddle? thanks!

[@bigman7293]

j bones you have to move the end of the filler rod with the puddle and dip as you go.

[@TheChronichalt]

Just lay the wire for practice (Don't move it, just let pac man eat it), then once you get comfortable with your torch control, start feeding in wire to make a larger weld. Pause on your edges to fill the undercut.

[@АртёмЛарионов-т3т]

Беспокойное сердце врача

[@LowLightVideos]

+Weld.com - Walk the Cup is somewhat more difficult to explain verbally, but here goes. When Welding you want to manipulate the Torch properly to produce a correct Weld. With Pipe Welding you "Walk the Cup" to move the Torch sideways and forward. The "walking" is sort of like walking on ice, you want to *slide* an extremely small amount forward *OR* backward *while* moving the Torch *forward* (the tiny sliding is IF you either walk too far or not far enough). You "walk" by rocking the Ceramic Cup sideways, the ceramic _grabs_ the steel similar to planting your foot on ice (so you don't slip) *and* you lift the other 'foot' (other side of the Cup, not _planted_ on the Pipe) eliminating friction (or physical contact) by rocking the Cup (one _foot_ on the ice, the other lifted up) and 'planting your foot' slightly further ahead - *with* 'micro-sliding' forwards *or* backwards to correct the forward Travel Speed. The sideways motion of the _walking_ is to accommodate the width of the Weld *IF* you choose to Weave instead of doing the entire Weld using Stringers (a straight, unweaved, Weld bead). It's a convenient *crutch*, that makes it easier to produce a quality Weld *and* happens to manipulate the Torch close to what you would have (when done properly, and with any 'micro-sliding' *necessary* - IE: Do not walk incorrectly or it (the Weld) won't be OK). For Experts to attempt: Don't walk, run. Assuming an entirely manual process of Welding (no 'PipeMaster' manipulator, but rotation by motor is OK) it *is* better to Weld all Stringers (same as the Root, it's a Stringer) and push the Wire (manually) the same as "Wirefeed TIG" - simply push forward on the Torch and *shove* the Wire in (like Soldering, just shove it in). After Root and Fill you likely want to Weave the Cap to make the Cap polished smooth, a Stringer Cap *is* acceptable but it should be *smooth* also - smoothness comes from cranking it (and Welding correctly). YT, Rob

[@baileyscustombaitsparker1644]

this video helped me so much amazing video guys

[@bobmoffatt4133]

Glad to hear that. Thanks.

[@mlovingfoss]

If I am doing an x-ray quality weld on pipe and don't have a foot pedal, I like to run my arc to the side and pull out up my filler rod if possible and then break the arc. Does not leave those ugly craters from the arc break, which in turns make less grinding for me. Just my 2 cents

[@bobmoffatt4133]

Very good tip.

[@ze_german2921]

Better yet, brake your arc on your filler wire. When your cappin, you don’t have a bevel anymore.

[@martydegier9279]

Strictly my own opinion as a 25yr welder who does alot of tig,mainly stainless pipe,I do not walk the cup ever.Ive always felt its a cheater technique for people with shaky hands. Nonetheless Bob is very knowledgeable&has taught me some valuable tips,many thanks!

[@noahd8673]

so if your are welding a bicycle frame is that a time to walk the cup

[@Michael_00001]

Somewhere on here, there's a good video (TIG aluminum) on a bicycle frame. I believe it takes place at a Santa Cruz bike builder. I don't believe he walks the cup while welding.

[@Welddotcom]

Bike frames are pretty small tubing to walk the cup. Most bike builders use a freehand technique.

[@stearlingestes7380]

HELP! i need some advise. the welder i'm using wont let me change the size of my weld puddle no matter which position i have the foot peddle on. can you tell me what's wrong?

[@sheryllebouef9744]

did u switch the machine to the foot peddle mode?

[@stearlingestes7380]

It's always on foot mode.

[@Flightstar]

My cup walking is more like a drunken stagger.

[@kevinfrmkdz]

tell me about it lol

[@diegodelgado9764]

You got the whiskey tungsten too

[@derekhaydon4656]

Don't walk the cup. LAZY WELDING. learn to weld with a steady hand. You cannot weld with the correct angles by touching cup on the platy.

[@BileksChannel3820]

To avoid slipping the cup, the angle position of the cup must consistent towards the welding material.

[@silver06gto]

absolutely beautiful welds there!!

[@promigmaniacoc3053]

Do you get a lot of trash in your welds with a snake skin wide weave bead? I’ve always ran them tight so I don’t fail.

[@Michael_00001]

God dang TIG is so clean! I do some flux core MIG welding and compared to this it is so messy (even though the welds look halfway decent after you clean out all the slag and brush it). What are the structural differences if any? I may have to start TIG'in! I do mostly projects for my Jeep such as roof rack and bumper hoop type stuff.

[@Welddotcom]

Takes a little longer, but for car parts it looks a lot nicer. Structurally it is better for that type of work too, because you can control the heat much better.

[@itsthatchinkykid]

Michael Kirst if you're doing welding for vehicles, definitely do tig. You'll get a gorgeous weld(if you're good) and also it's very clean. Make sure your skin is covered though, tig is much brighter and produce more UV rays due to no smoke production. It CAN get very technical tho.

[@Big_Bous]

TIG is AWESOME. So, so clean. MIG is definitely a messy job.

[@cooper38gold]

With flux core it don't matter how good u are they are not gonna look pretty

[@Froggolfing]

What's the best welder for just practicing mig. And one for tig. Cheap for beginners

[@Welddotcom]

The ESAB Rebel and the Lincoln 210 MP are both nice little multi process welders that will do both MIG and TIG. Both will cost you right around $1400 if you want the TIG function.

[@thechaptermaster]

Um... I think you missed the "Cheap for beginners" part.

[@brian6265]

everlast makes good machines.

[@toothrowedTV]

+Weld.com hey is the 220 red Lincoln box good to practice on stick pipe wat do u recommend??

[@babynyxe4784]

I am freaking out cos I have to do this for a grade and I started tig only a week ago aaaaaaa

[@chrisjones6165]

I need some serious help on this. Biggest issues are... How to start a plate where u can't walk at 1st? I try and free hand but without a place to prop I usually end up dunking tungsten. Then once I get going parts will flow smooth and others I stick,skip ahead or am just going side to side with no forward progress. Do u have any joints to practice on or any tips? Need to get this down for 6g Tig cert.. have asme ix in smaw now but need Tig to be employable.. help please

[@gilgammesh1]

I always called it "walking the dog" lol

[@babynyxe4784]

Omg joseph

[@memyself1176]

I'm new to welding and confused. can you tell me the difference between Tig welding MIG welding structural welding arc welding stick welding I herd stick welding is the hardest and if you can do that then you can do all, is that true??? please helps.

[@Welddotcom]

That's a lot of information for a KZbin response and you'd be better off doing some research on AWS.org. Here is a brief answet to your question: TIG (GTAW) = Tungsten Inert Gas (Gas Tungsten Arc Welding) MIG (GMAW) = Metal Inert Gas (Gas Metal Arc Welding) Stick (SMAW) = Arc Welding (Shielded Metal Arc Welding) Structural isn't an actual process, but the welding of erected structures, like buildings. Just because you can stick weld does not mean that you can "do them all". Each one takes practice.

[@youtubereyes332]

Son muy buenos videos Los felicito!!

[@glensamson2235]

Are you not concerned about the heat input? By using multiple filler wire.

[@abelcerrillo2162]

Its just years of experience, good job.

[@itbifitrybutifail2076]

i would like this man to teach me more about welding .... specifically tig welding ... looks interesting and his welds are really really amazing ..... respond to this pleasse

[@jeffreybaker8467]

Hi there, i also do this with .08 wire with the mig.

[@chrisjones6165]

Is it possible to do this on 110 amps? No 220 in new garage and that's all im limited to until taxes. Could I slim it down to a 17th or 3/32 filler and use more passes? I need lots of practice and that's all I have for machine and power at moment

[@balentine111]

what kind of tig rig setup are you using. CK 17FV, 26FV? thank you. it's just the tig torch looks so small.

[@Welddotcom]

+balentine111 20 style TIG torch on a Miller Dynasty 300DX machine.

[@robcullen9984]

thanks Bob

[@mikesnyder2575]

Good video, but wish you would've shown the video of the 2 stringer bead cap?

[@kickinwinghotboi883]

Bob is OG. I ain't studying this "Mr. TIG" character

[@welding1905]

Mr. Tig how many degrees is your pipe bevel?

[@Welddotcom]

It was a 60 degree included angle

[@welding1905]

Thanks!

[@SharkysShop]

+Welding1 37.5 degrees in my field of pipe welding.

[@cthemichallenger3096]

A Very wise man🤙

[@ColKlink-yh1ro]

Where is the # 12 cup ? My fav .

[@mattharper588]

Union Boilermakers are the highest skilled workers of the skilled trades they weld smaw mig tig with a lot of it in out of position and in confined spaces they are also skilled heavy riggers lifting some loads in excess of 100 tons and also set and connect the iron to set these loads on working at significant heights it is a dirty and dangerous job and I loved it for 35 years traveling all over this beautiful country.retired union strong

[@yuxuansun8271]

Use a denoise filter in premier. This makes the video much more professional. That fan noise drives me nuts.

[@chenelson185]

is walking the cup used on GAS pipes?

[@Welddotcom]

Yes, in many cases.

[@MastakSvarka]

Good seam.

[@Htxjoee]

Say you're welding a fence or just 2 metals toghther. Do you want to do a root pass hot pass & the fillers? Or is it just one beed?

[@Htxjoee]

have*

[@Welddotcom]

your going to need to get a little more specific with your question, however, if you are repairing a fence post, assuming it is carbon steel, you would likely just want to do one pass with a complimentary filler metal.

[@viceadmiralwingfutanthegra3274]

Wrong moron. You need to run a 3/24 using the "up river" technique. Really you should use an upside down Up River but you dumbasses probably aren't that good.

[@dirtyred9376]

how long it takes to learn this

[@viceadmiralwingfutanthegra3274]

47 hours.

[@arnelmahinay1719]

Sir how too used tig if first time. In how trader handle

[@joelargumedo1596]

Can you give me any tips on how people get that figure 8 technique down when finishing off the cap? My root and fills rarely have any defects its just keeping the cap as pretty as possible. I think my main thing on the cap is not being consistent when weaving it.

[@traceanson6975]

Joel Argumedo just roll the cup like you would roll a 55 gallon barrel

[@minzn4088]

so good

[@fernandolevrino5488]

que potencia utilizan en la maquina de soldar para un espesor de 3/16" en hierro

[@brunaogoncalves4209]

parabéns a vcs ...vídeos bons

[@salzamora6463]

that was awesome to see that number 10 cup I'm guessing, just glide through the groove of that heavy wall

[@Big_Bous]

I had a quick question. What amperage are you set at? I understand that amperage settings are probably dependent on the specs of the piece as well, but I'm curious as to what amperage you're running at.

[@jeremys959]

Aside from welding, I just saw noticed the side of your helmet, Semper Fi

[@dragontalontsiawd]

Lol same here years later... Semper Fi boss man Bob

[@sphinx19]

Thanks

[@debradisharoon]

Since this video is kinda old, I'm just taking the chance my question will get answered. I have experience with SMAW, GMAW and GTAW welding, but I've never used the walk the cup technique when I used TIG to repair dies. My question is, when do I need to use that technique?

[@Welddotcom]

We go over this to some extent in the video at 2:55.

[@debradisharoon]

Ok, I'll watch again.

[@debradisharoon]

Gotcha. It looks like this technique is best if you need very flat welds and if you need to work quickly.

[@bobmoffatt4133]

We also have another video out on this technique.

[@josedeluchi8250]

muy buenas las comparativas. buenas serian con las traducciones en español

[@gunnerneikoify]

Is there a reason why you would use tig for welding this pipe over say..regular mig or stick welding it? To me it seems like welding that pipe together would be MUCH faster using a mig welder set at the right amps, wire size and wire speed?? Why use tig over mig for welding this pipe?

[@HouseExpertify]

It doesn't give spatter that gets inside of the pipe also alot of times they do the first two passes with TIG and then they fill it up with stick

[@gunnerneikoify]

fireflite34 I'm thinking they tig pipe that can't have any contaminants in them? Otherwise why would you used tig instead of stick/mig which is 10x faster....

[@estherfreeeman5003]

Is Bob Moffatt a lefty tig welder?

[@bobmoffatt4133]

Lefty but can do both.

[@timmwhite9218]

to complete position weld tests you've got to weld left and right handed anyway to get bottom to top on both sides.

[@estherfreeeman5003]

amazing! my hero

[@sillynacannada6718]

Any good welder is ambidextrous. I know tig doesn’t throw sparks, but you can tell you’re partnered with a good welder when they have the same amount of burn on both sleeves.

[@MrCristianflorin]

I miss Mr Tig and Bob

[@maynard5955]

I always like them hot passes boss always said give it a hot pass an cap it thanks for the tips from the guys over here in su county

[@nyimatseringlama1741]

sir how to weld tig multi in pipe

[@ekfinn]

I couldn't help but notice the emblem of my tribe on the side of his pipeliner hood. Is Bob a former Marine? Excellent videos, by the way. Thank you.

[@Dr4g0nW00d]

Some say that the tig is born with a welding helmet !!