Time Team S02-E04 The Archbishop's Back Garden (Lambeth Palace, London)

[@willowhofmann7409]

Tony's outfit in this episode is just everything. I believe those are salmon, colored Converse to match his salmon t-shirt and thoooose shoulder pads. Oh I just.... I'm back in the 90s. .

[@PaulMahon-w2b]

Cool don't have to type you nailed it 🎉

[@johnvarner9089]

I think my favorite part of this comes at the end. After carefully examining the evidence, consulting with multiple experts, debating the possibilities among themselves, the show finishes not with "and that's how London began," but with "and that's how WE THINK London began." I love that acknowledgement of the limitations and fallibility of archaeology, and science as a whole really. We can look at the evidence we have, make our best possible conclusions, but we must always leave room for future discoveries to rewrite what we think we know. I love that.

[@NinaHansen2008]

Exactly my thoughts! I am going through the whole series for the third time.

[@schradeya]

Gawwwhhh Robin's job is my DREAM job! Just futzing around in glorious old archives and books? YES PLEASE FOREVER!!

[@kaarlimakela3413]

I enjoyed this entire 20-year series sooooo much, that I got into 'Black Adder' (hard to do in the States), then all of 'Jeeves and Wooster' and 'A Bit of Frye and Laurie', then I started on a refresher on Dame Edna and a bunch of bits from 'The Goon Show' ... Of course 'Monty Python' is everpresent ... and all the British history stuff Britany Hughes has done recently ... And I'm back to Time Team and all their specials again ... Rest in Peace, Mick ...

[@Pauldjreadman]

Blackadder is making a comeback apparently. Jeeves and Wooster is excellent. I always wondered how he got this job straight out of Blackadder. That surprises me.

[@Cosmoline]

They're so young! Tony is very early 90's with that jacket and hair. But Phil's clothes are timeless. In fact he wears those same clothes to this day.

[@susanlegeza7562]

Phils hat is brand new!look 20 jears later, same hat “slightly” worn!!! Just like my fathers coat!!!

[@deborahparham3783]

Phil is a very practical man. As long as something still has good use left in it he sticks with it. If it ain't broke don't "fix" it. Also, he prefers to be comfortable while working in those trenches all day. Time Team is not a fashion show. It is about archaeological digs.

[@PamelaTallant]

The 90"s was an unhappy decade for fashion, in my humble opinion....mullets, big hair and shoulder pads...and I was right in the thick of it, heaven help me!!!

[@kathleenseligmytatterednto8560]

I love listening to Robin read. Miss his input

[@susanlegeza7562]

There was a man who knew history!

[@billyank1864]

I will say it again and again, Stewart Ainsworth is the man!!

[@JayFe0]

7:06 "Can you see the depression?" Nope, but I'll take your word for it.

[@00BillyTorontoBill]

I am over 50.... and if I had a chance to do it all again knowing what I now.. I would do archeology and Stewart is my favourite.

[@billyank1864]

Angie M He does such a great job of giving us the BIG picture to understand what the rest are finding in the ground.

[@makrsk09]

@@billyank1864 Context!

[@willowhofmann7409]

Seriously!!!! I'm usually talking to the others through my screen, annoyed and frustrated at all their dismissiveness and mockery of the peculiar genius of Stewart " stop talking ... " "Just stop arguing and listen" and "don't make fun of my Stewie...." Then he rarely if ever gets the kudos he deserves when he's proven to be right as always

[@peterbaxter2913]

Mick: "...what's that in OLD money?" Good on yer, Mick!

[@jonathaneffemey944]

Thanks so much for posting.

[@NinaHansen2008]

That final summary makes good sense! Good job, TT.

[@gregparker3255]

Time Team 2019- Tony rocking the Don Johnson look.

[@trinkab]

Tony cir. 1994

[@VictorRochaGaming]

The Time Team are British super heroes.

[@cs_fl5048]

Amazing the crew and specialist assembled. And they seem to enjoy what they do and each other. (don't KNOW that, but it seems so...) and the enjoy a bit of libation of an evening... like what could be better??

[@mercedes523]

I’m shocked to see the sunny weather on this episode. Lovely.

[@craigkondelin5379]

Cosmoline,.. - Phil is timeless,.

[@dimebagtribute]

It's so sad this Man, the Professor Mick ASTON, died so suddenly in 2013 because of a cerebral hemorrhage... He was at the beginning of his retreat and never enjoy it! Hopefully his legacy was recognized but it was one of the saddest lost of this century for all archeologist lovers...!

[@patriciaphelps5875]

Merry Christmas. I used to love Dad's Army. It would be lovely if we could see that old series here in the US.

[@tonyhairs]

So few high rise buildings in those aerial shots of central London. How things have changed so much in just 25 years.

[@spacelemur7955]

I am surprised that there wasn't a good record of river depth soundings already, given the history of shipping along the Thames.

[@gregb6469]

As I watched this episode I was reminded of that great novel LONDON by Edward Rutherfurd.

[@LynxSouth]

As I recall, Rutherford described the topography and geology in detail, and included the physical reasons why the various locals and the Romans put which structure where. These archaeologists should have done their homework: properly researched historical fiction can be awesomely insightful.

[@alicesmith3738]

Watched these time team episodes before. But it seems that either KZbin or someone else has turned the volume down.

[@uvasly]

I miss robin. Beautiful voice, great archivist.

[@johnspahr1679]

I'm going back watching all of the older episodes now - the ones with the original cast instead of the new, pretty young faces they have hired as replacements instead of the older seasoned and experienced persons.

[@lisakilmer2667]

A good example of how one needs to not have one's heart set on finding something specific, but to examine and interpret the actual finds. I think that is why Tony seems annoying to many viewers - he's harping on pre-conceived ideas, probably was told to ask those questions on behalf of the audience. And sure enough, the landscape analysis solves all the questions. A lot of time and effort would have been saved if the topography had been studied a week ahead of time, but I guess they set this artificial "3 days" rule, which meant that the land analysis wasn't done in time to prevent wasted digging. I think Tony's kind of cute here, wearing silk shirts and colored canvas shoes. Remember he was still in his 40's, no reason he should not have tried to be fashionable. Plus I suspect the long hair was due to his acting roles.

[@susanf.7737]

So interesting, thank you so much.

[@lisasargent2841]

Yes, Tony is wearing "shoulder pads."

[@juliagraves350]

Tony sporting Miami Vice look?!

[@alienmozart9902]

At this point these older earlier seasons are archeological evidence...

[@aphroditeatlas3328]

The Gormenghast reference made me chuckle. I didn't know anybody else had actually read Mervyn Peake...

[@blackenreed1425]

I did. But he could have been referring to the BBC TV Series

[@JereForsyth]

Wow. Just look how young they are!

[@handyhippie6548]

diatomaceous clay is the filler in dynamite. those little critters are very useful!

[@AudieHolland]

Funny that Stangate comes from Saxon for stone gate. The way they pronounce 'stan' (like stane) is how we pronounce 'steen' in The Netherlands.

[@mercedes523]

Tony’s got that Miami Vice look goin’ on. lol

[@theknave4415]

Tony Robinson is 74 y/o and still working hard. ;) ...although, he doesn't run as fast these days. :)

[@PaulMahon-w2b]

Neither do I 😊

[@rodritchison1995]

Mick the Dig/Mick the Twig on the other end of the brick rope. He's a PhD professor at University of Maryland.

[@slhughes1267]

If nothing else, they've worked Schrodinger's Cat very well: they've shown where the Roman Road is *not*.

[@BlackIjs]

What I got from this is that the Roman's build damn GOOD roads.

[@Raycheetah]

My only real issue with their conclusions is the assumption, even after two millennia of changing hydrology, that a sand bar would still remain extant which had served as a ford for Roman legions. Seems a bit unlikely. ='[.]'=

[@Celestyal22]

Tony Robinson, sporting the ancient look of a mischievous Norse God 20 years before Marvel ever made a movie about it. :)

[@APIEngineering]

Actually he's going for the Don Johnson / Miami Vice look here lol.

[@CologneCarter]

***** And the hair color originally is certainly not quite without any grey strand. ;)

[@billoxiiboy]

+APIEngineering - more the like the Sylvester McCoy look as the 7th Doctor Who

[@shadetreader]

Checking for buried utilities before digging isn’t ”bureaucracy”, it’s common sense.

[@MrAlumni72]

I don't usually think this of Time Team, but in this case at least, why didn't they do their research BEFORE they started digging? They've got several huge holes in the ground and THEN they start to come up with layouts of 17th century gardens, steps leading up from the river, etc - wouldn't they have benefitted from finding those things BEFORE they committed to digging in a particular place? Sure it's a learning process, I suppose, but aren't they experienced enough already (from what they presumably did before joining this show) to know to do this before springing into action? And why don't they just look at the line the road WOULD have taken (the straight line they talked about at the start) and just dig along that line?

[@jdemo7167]

Yes I see your points and it did seem like they kind of ran ahead of themselves. Perhaps as you say they were still getting into the swing of a new series and the protocols involved. Otherwise it was as usual interesting.

[@saintboudreau1545]

+MrAlumni72 first you dis prove current theory then you look elsewhere. but no place to dig elsewhere. . best guess.

[@thecrow7]

they did but that does not make a good program ... they lead the viewer through the process

[@lainecolley1414]

Lol that statue I designed is 😅 all over London. Never been, hadn't seen.. lmao

[@PaulMahon-w2b]

Which one

[@lainecolley1414]

It's still a sketch. I apparently have a natural affinity for Boudaccia 😏

[@lavillablanca]

I want a Time Team baseball cap

[@katcalmejane]

27:23 Look at that book! I wonder what on earth happened to the side of it to make that dent!

[@HaulinWulf]

Oh my god! I watch a TV-Show, where people drink beer infront of the camera and nobody is shouting "nazi" "save the weather... ehm climate" or "Girls with dingdongs for president" or any other crap. I love time team and I miss the 80's and 90's so badly.

[@tphvictims5101]

Miami Vice phase Tony.

[@lcapplewood]

I wish these were louder. Why are they so hard to hear?

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

As a recording engineer I can answer this question. This is actually a good volume that is as loud as it should be before things start to distort (honestly, quality-wise it's too loud if anything). The problem is not this video, the problem is what's called _volume wars._ An awful trend that started on TV at least by the 80's. You probably remember how the commercials were always louder than the movies and shows? Well this millennia has gotten way out of hand because technology is able to disguise most of the distortion that occurs because of this. It's still distorted though, and makes things harder to hear clearly. Couple that with the fact youtube doesn't put any limit on the volume an uploader can set, means a huge portion of the videos here are way too loud and distorted, making them even harder to hear. Just turning the volume down on your listening device doesn't get rid of that distortion either. The only way around this is to be constantly turning down the volume on videos that have sound that is too loud, and realizing that it's the terrible sound quality that makes them hard to hear, that and the damage this is doing to your ears, witch are super easy to damage btw. Volume higher than this, would make the video completely unlistenable to me and anyone else with sharper than average ears. But for anyone this is in fact a dangerous trend because ears are so easily damaged, and it's my guess that even if you have little hearing damage to begin with, this phenomena has more than likely damaged your hearing quite a lot (it has mine because I sometimes forget to lower the volume until I know if they set it at a decent level or not. My mother has the same trouble hearing things, partially because she is losing some of her hearing just from getting older, but her answer has been to turn the volume on her phone and headphones up so loud it's damaging her hearing more each day. Sometimes (and granted I have great ears, but still) I can here the songs she is listening to in the next room, while she is using just her headphones. And as someone that even played guitar in a few metal bands I can tell you this way way too loud and will lead to serious hearing loss, and in the extreme, deafness. Sorry for the wall of text, as an engineer and musician, not damaging my ears is super important and I wouldn't want it to happen to others either. Anyway, what you do with this is of course up to you, but hopefully you will find a way to protect your ears, while still being able to hear the things you want and love. Good luck. ^-^

[@marthareis5873]

@@aylbdrmadison1051 Very interesting and also concerning -- I imagine so many of us are damaging our hearing. Thanks for elaborating.

[@maxschon7709]

Same the Romans did in Vienna, which is based on the Roman Fortress of Vinabona. The Civil City was Carnuntum.

[@BackFromTheMadeUp]

They all look so young

[@deborahparham3783]

They were young when these shows were filmed.

[@stannousflouride8372]

The latitude and longitude: Lambeth, London 51.497130, -0.118507

[@craigkondelin5379]

I believe that it's a naive to believe that any invading people would have completely scraped what was already there,.. - Simply because it was something which (They-The invaders ) hadn't established,.. If it works,.. why not use it. - Simple. - A No-Brainer,.. - at least to me. - I'd have to agree with Richard.

[@schradeya]

I couldn't agree more. In fact, don't we already _know_ that the Romans had a good habit of using what was there? They certainly used existing _culture_ and simply integrated, rather than conquering and (totally) oppressing people. So why would they waste the time and energy to tear down and rebuild instead of just using - and maybe improving - what's already there? I think you're dead on: A no-brainer indeed!

[@schradeya]

Celto Loco Well, I think that's mostly, but not _entirely_ true. It's totally accurate when you're looking at the height of their empire, when they were the richest, most organized, most stable, most utterly formidable force the world had ever seen, absolutely. But round about 300-400, the latter (and I think most prolific, archaeologically, at least) era of their occupation of Britain, the empire was beginning to crumble. They'd already begun cutting the coins with less valuable materials and even reducing _those_ to tiny little pieces, they'd suffered a string of really shitty emperors, they were starting to run out of food and other resources in the most remote places, and the capital was divided between two cities. Yes, human beings were almost always mostly throwaway resources to the Romans, but _populations_ and _cultures_ were not always, and if they could save a dime - especially toward the end of the occupation when they were starting to go broke - they would try to do things the cheapest and easiest way. Rome didn't take over and maintain nearly the entirety of the known world by brute force alone; they used intelligence, finesse, and the path of least resistance to get it and keep it, too. It was easier - requiring less strain on their resources, whether human, animal, or craft - to simply take in local cultures and _make them Roman_ than it was to just bulldoze and force their ways upon unwilling civilizations. War is expensive as fuck! It's totally, absolutely true that anything not Roman was to be scoffed at and ostracised, certainly, _in the city of Rome_ itself. But if something wasn't inherently Roman, and therefore acceptable, then Rome would sometimes take it over and _make it Roman_, especially out in the colonies. Waaaay out in the far-reaching places, where they were still trying to conquer some of the enemies on the fringes and assimilate some of the people, they were forced to integrate existing structures, political ideals, and religious practices, due to finances. Also, it was often easier to persuade the local people over to their way by absorbing some of their more acceptable beliefs, rituals, and even gods, into the Roman way, than it was to expend precious resources on fighting them. We know for a fact that they took in loads of local gods and simply added them to their pantheon; we have extant shrines and dedications to new, local gods, found all over the UK. Effectively, during the latter half of the Roman occupation of Britain, Rome was suffering pretty badly financially, and was kind of in upheaval, so they were reduced to doing a lot of things, to their distaste, the easiest and cheapest way. But, yes, for the vast majority of Rome's history, it was bulldoze and replace, cut and paste, accept no compromise.

[@schradeya]

Celto Loco Now _that_ I agree with 100%!

[@saintboudreau1545]

+Celto Loco you are correct. but no one in any human society in 2015 can claim freedom the world economy is very rich and getting more poor by the year. the masses fail to protest. most humans are easily led to slaughter and shearing with baubles. you would have done then what you do now. nothing.

[@upsydasyme3351]

+Celto Loco Dr. Martin Luther King or even Malcom X were hippies? That's news to me.

[@WesternReloader]

Why wouldn’t the road be where a main road now resides?

[@saintboudreau1545]

great

[@richardwhittington7481]

But why assume that the Romans did it all in Londinium? Couldn't there have a pre-Roman road, ford, and possibly a port for trade at the site? If not a port, at least a road and ford, since the better fording sites would be known and used by the pre-Romans, and roads by necessity connecting to the fords.

[@christophersmith8316]

Roman roads are far better constructed and graded than older roads, and straight as a ruler. So you can probably tell if a road you find is Roman or older or Saxon.

[@LawsonMcLaren]

I didn't realize how flamboyant Tony used to be. The flowing hair and tshirt under the blazer, man the coke used to flow in the 90's.

[@daviddavis5689]

Most of those people have mental issues now.

[@RosHaywood]

Notice how in Season 1 they were drinking from cups-and-saucers or wine goblets - now they are into beer cans... *grin*

[@blues7160]

Is Tony wearing shoulder pads?

[@LynxSouth]

It was the 90s ... Even women's sweaters/jumpers had shoulder pads. It actually looked good on most people, unless wearing layers put your 'shoulders' up around your ears.

[@pergrning736]

Hvordan kan steingate være SAKSISK 😳 🤔,når gate hedder: strasse på tysk/saksisk ( og på NORDISK hedder : gade) 🤨😏!

[@mu8554]

Why does a man of god need a palace? Jesus would be horrified.

[@richardphillips6281]

A man of God doesn't need a palace but the C of E was created by Henry VIII and gave it power and authority similar to the Catholic denomination that it replaced. It was a political change as the Pope would not agree to the King divorcing his wife. There's plenty more information in books and on the internet if you are still interested in this part of our history.

[@mu8554]

@@richardphillips6281 doesn't make it right, shouldn't a man of God lead a simple and righteous life?

[@richardphillips6281]

@@mu8554 .. yes you are right but the Anglican and Catholic churches were created by a King and an Emperor and given political and financial power to keep the population under control and submissive to the governments laws and pay their taxes. Neither organisation was created due to a love of God or desire for God's will to be done on earth. In fact they were both incapable of loving their enemies or doing good to those who hated them. Current leaderships seem to be more Christ like in their attitudes and actions. The Church of England is unfortunately burdened with the hierarchy and buildings that are still linked to UK government and many protected historical buildings that they have to look after according to our laws.

[@mu8554]

@@richardphillips6281 I agree with your points.So much needs to change in this country, monarchy, government etc.RUpro Brexit or pro Euro.Or as John Lennon said"I don't need Beatles for I am the Walrus".

[@richardphillips6281]

@@mu8554 Thankyou .. As long as we care for our government and country and do our best then at least we will have been some use in life. It's not Us and Them it's all of Us in this together whatever way we choose to be governed.

[@ConstanzeWeber]

My goodness, Tony was a skinny thing back then!!

[@cleooferrall9489]

I hope they buried Prof. Mick Aston in his rainbow sweater😢

[@joelquebec]

Why is it they only have 3 days?

[@Tiger89Lilly]

Because they all have day jobs at universities etc to get back to. They used to make time team in their weekends off

[@joelquebec]

Ah that makes sense. I noticed they managed to get 6 days in the Caribbean though.

[@Tiger89Lilly]

@@joelquebec working holiday. In the UK it's the law to have at least 28 days holiday a year. I would expect either they used their holiday days or they were given leave from their jobs to film for a week

[@barbmcconnaughey3070]

Because the Archbishop was out of town...

[@AudieHolland]

Mainly the budget.

[@morrigan191]

Stuart seems more authoritative here. Perhaps 20 years of being teased by the team just made him weirder.

[@stevenjohnson2273]

They haven't waisted there time. They proved where it isn't.

[@shnops]

Archaeology seems to be 75% wasted effort , 20% contentious conjecture and 5% variable success !

[@daisymay5823]

A time when Mick didn’t wear his striped sweater. He could be mistaken as a normal chap!

[@sage3306]

....and because the sovereign country City of London had to be on certain ley line crossings - and Lambeth wasn't.

[@davidj4662]

The very heart of the evil empire.

[@Tom-uv7ry]

Ye well we live good lives because of that evil empire

[@shannonmarie9605]

Just tie a brick to a tape measure

[@bjornsmom123]

I love Time Team, but Tony is such an irritating little arrogant troll. He's always inserting himself in when we could learn more if he would just LISTEN sometimes.

[@angrybutters]

+Karen Douglass I love this show too! Planned trip around Europe to some of the places time team has visited and this place is my first stop on the list.

[@525Lines]

He's the celebrity that puts the show on the map and as narrator, he does a great job. He has a good rapport with everyone. Seems like a good fit.

[@PerryTribeMetalBaker]

except that hes an absolute history buff who has created numerous historical shows and his role in the show that was partly his idea (amongst friends) was to be the bridge between layman and scholarly, he asks the basic, ignorant sounding questions that ARE asked by people who have no idea and he plays that role and then (dum dum dum) the archaeologists answer his questions......otherwise phil would only chat about mesolithic, mick would natter about monasteries forever and the historians would forever regale us with anglo Saxon tales of warring Danes and mystifying gold...all the while the actual archaeology that could be not much more than a string of in-situ bricks would mean very little to us and we would be none the wiser

[@Chrisfeb68]

I think he does a very good job....he's direct and he asks questions that get to the point. He's what makes the series so enjoyable.

[@t.j.payeur739]

He knows exactly what he's doing and so does everyone else involved..you'll notice that he's one of the producers...

[@BackFromTheMadeUp]

They all look so young