JAS-39C In War Thunder : A Basic Review

[@TimsVariety]

In regards to the clip with the Maverick attacking an invisible target - it was a bug where ground vehicles weren't rendering in properly, and was patched after I recorded the footage for this review. I knew about the bug, and was checking the missile view to make sure it was still tracking. Game-breaking bug for CAS, but it was fixed somewhat promptly.

[@theeradicator110]

Can you maybe make a review about the Kfir Canard? Or maybe you could start making reviews about entire text trees of nations?

[@cmdrTremyss]

When I went outside today, I've seen 3 Gripens of ours cruising above my city in formation. Magnificent.

[@antonisashitteragain6993]

i dont believe you

[@cmdrTremyss]

@@antonisashitteragain6993 Actually there was some ceremony for military officers today, and they flew because of them. It was very unusual to see them and even more of a coincidence, that Tim's video of Gripens dropped the same day.

[@antonisashitteragain6993]

@@cmdrTremyss prove it

[@cmdrTremyss]

@@antonisashitteragain6993 I don't have to prove you a damn thing.

[@antonisashitteragain6993]

Because you cant my dude, sad

[@toastoftriumph]

Love the statcard screenshots at 3:00!

[@Threxer]

At 9:40 I wish they added a way for you to easily angle the canards near 90 degrees like the Gripen actually does when landing.

[@Cythil]

Considering it is made to land on short runways (including roads) it is a feature that should be in. Tim is not wrong with saying that the canards only slow down the plane a little. But only due to the full range can not be deployed when landing (from what I have seen. Since I have yet to fly the plane myself. Even if one of my mail goals to unlock.)

[@TimsVariety]

@@Cythil They should have linked it to the gear brakes, IMHO.

[@Cythil]

@@TimsVariety Not a bad idea at all.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

​​@@Cythil that's how it works IRL. When the main gear hits the ground with the wheel brakes engaged for landing, the suspension compression trips the canard airbrake function iirc.

[@Cythil]

@@SonsOfLorgar Yeah... It rings a bell.

[@errornamenotfound2513]

Just a Heads-up: R-Darter is actually better than AIM120 in almost EVERYWAY, However it is still the Worst FOX3 missile in top tier. "How?" Just because of 1 stat which is the lofting angle. R-Darter has a Lofting angle of a Whopping 35°. That in turns makes the missile lofts waaay too high towards the stratosphere, losing ALL of it's energy in the process (In comparison, Aim120 and other Fox 3s only has 5-7.5° of lofting angle)

[@CPUfy]

The R-Darter is not better than the AIM-120 in anyway, I’ve used them both.

[@errornamenotfound2513]

@@CPUfy IT IS Better in **Almost** Everyway, but it doesn't mean its overall better than than AIM120, in fact it's the Worst Fox 3s in top tier

[@ollilaine6763]

The loft angle was dropped to 7,5°. I don't think it's in any of the patch notes however.

[@CPUfy]

@@ollilaine6763 I know

[@CPUfy]

@@errornamenotfound2513 what does the R-Darter have over the AIM-120?

[@obamnaprismus]

Ah, excellent timing, precisely the type of content I need at the gym

[@BlackHawkBallistic]

Gaijin must have hired hackers to bug your computer to see when youre uploading Tim 😭

[@TimsVariety]

Its a running gag here on the channel that the snail spies on me and times updates/patches to make my vids outdated as quickly as they can.

[@ZeePanzer]

Brazil's is actually the F39E Gripen (based on the E variant) we do not have or had the C variant.

[@TimsVariety]

My source for the info was Jane's Information Group. Its entirely possible they're out of date.

[@ZeePanzer]

@@TimsVariety probably, since we never had to upgrade from the C to the E, we are basically jumping from our Modernized F5Es straight into the E gripen.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

​@@ZeePanzer didn't you use the C/D for the pre-contract qualification trials and then submitted a feature wish list that resulted in the SAAB/Embraer R&D project that produced the E/F series?

[@ZeePanzer]

@@SonsOfLorgar yes but that was done on sweden, the C/D variants was never incorporated into the Brazilian air force, the first gripen to arrive here by Ship was an F39E Gripen.

[@CPUfy]

Thanks for another high quality review!

[@MrUSAviation]

Interesting jet, hope to see one in real life sometime!

[@guilhermevitorio273]

Dont forget the JAS39C will now get 2 stock Amraams for the hungarian and sweedish ones and r-darters for the south African one in the br update!

[@TimsVariety]

I'm probably going to do a video about that update (the whole thing, not specifically the Gripen) but figured I'd wait a couple of days instead of posting back-to-back vids.

[@guilhermevitorio273]

@@TimsVariety fair enough, great video btw!

[@j100j]

6:00 As someone who has been playing the gripen since it was added, I can confidently say that it's been OP the entire time. Also, if I correctly recall, they haven't buffed it once but have nerfed it was it 5 or 6 times now. Just shows how insane it was on launch I guess.

[@rainsilent]

Given that it pulls way better sustained turn than it can in real life, even still after all the nerfs, according to the two trials of the A and C that had performance data leaked out of them (Swiss and Indian trials) and yes, it very much was over performing the entire time. Heck, it still is. That said most everything still is so *shrug*. The real issue is that Gaijin will never, ever get it close to accurate, or any other jet that was introduced into service post Vietnam for that matter, because of classified information and Gaijin's understandable unwillingness to use any leaked information. So basically Gaijin is making $hit up for everything at top tier.

[@solvdev]

Been waiting for this one. Thanks Tim.

[@ImHellaToxic]

This was an awesome review! I just unlocked the JAS39EBS HU C for Italy and man that made the painful grind so much more worth it! I'm just struggling with BVR in this thing as American jets are already pinging my RWR before my TWS even acknowledges their presence lol

[@kampfsau9997]

"Surprisinly resistent" is putting it mildly i have seen this thing fly with both wings lost only retaining one of its canards and maybe its rudder flying along like nothing happened to it. done it one or two times myself. sometimes the damage model seems a bit of.

[@errornamenotfound2513]

9:24 whaaat? I think SA Gripen's Tiger Squadron looks amazing There's also the Esports RAWR Team on the same plane

[@ODGreenZa]

We're still using the C and D variant here in south africa

[@ArcaneActual]

You don't get enough credit for these vids man

[@edxcal84]

I was sad when Canada went with the F-35, because they had been looking at the Gripen, being from the US that would have been my only chance to see a Gripen in North America. Closest one otherwise is Brazil. Great review!

[@BoleDaPole]

Haha yea no way we'd let Canada a non American jet, but it's cute yall think you had a actual choice in the matter 😉

[@attila7892]

You will have a chance to asee Gripen. But the F35 is F35... Stealthy over 4th gens all day...

[@gabrielabreu5200]

Brazilian designation F-39 E is a Jas 39 E Gripen, brazil never used Jas 39 Cs.

[@TimsVariety]

My source for the info was Jane's Information Group. Its entirely possible they're out of date.

[@iampsico]

@@TimsVariety he's right

[@Taxxxic]

Swedish vehicles are just insane at top tier. And that 4x RB99 kill streak was sexy af

[@Kaldosthesergal]

Babe wake up, tim uploaded a new video

[@ausfyausfy2455]

I think I have already made a comment about this.... the moment Tim uploads a youtube video, Gaijin actually does something.

[@generalgreninjaandknockout4182]

Love the Sweden videos!

[@An_00b]

I'm grinding rank 4 Sweden rn with the A-21 but I wonder if the 109s are better suited for the average player to progress quicker? Amazing quality as always Tim 👏🎉

[@covidius9511]

A-21 is mostly about the guns while the 109 is more about the performance

[@An_00b]

@@covidius9511 Tnx I will consider it when I can crew it in one year 🐌🐌🐌

[@samirjaha4]

Just gridded the tree myself, the a21 have rly good guns but engine is lacking, I would say its better for new players. The 109 is the good old german plane, great climbing e decent agility. Both planes are great, but be aware that rank V and VI are pain, I suggest getting a premium or sticking to the 105g and j29f.

[@camaradeKC]

about the canard angling on the landing if you're not in sim control they wont angle at full potential like in the video thay are only at 50% of what they can do. Also the british one is a little bit different than the other ones since it has access to R-darter which pull 5 more G but seams to behave weird according to some.

[@hepgoat7693]

I love the Gripen!!!

[@janusz4156]

35 years of Gripen in 2023.

[@M1A2C.]

I'm about to get my Swedish Gripen A and C, can't wait lmao

[@waynevanhardeveld4707]

God damn she looks sooo good

[@nmcmm8341]

Tnx Tim..

[@danielmartens6369]

I see the Americans complained enough to warrant the MPH conversions now

[@TimsVariety]

Constantly....

[@Mourningstar-kc7ft]

wtf is a kilometer 😂

[@quincywoods3221]

14 minutes ago is so spicy

[@sethcanning4170]

The jet that I've already spaded and nearly got the camo for? Tell me all about it Tim!

[@Scandanaviator]

I'm honestly a bit worried for the future of War Thunder. At the rate they add new aircraft, soon minor nations will start to run out of vehicles to add. After (for example) the F-22s and F-35s get added, what else will there be to add? Will they just add modifications? Or entirely conceptual or fictional aircraft? Anyways, keep up the amazing work tim, looking forward to more content! (Please do more swedish jet stuff!!)

[@TimsVariety]

They might FINALLY get around to adding in some of the mid cold-war era stuff they've skipped over ...

[@gustavofelix3433]

Tim In fact, Brazil participated in the development of the Gripen NG and we used the Gripen E/F, which was an absurd big leap for us, because before the Gripen we used Mirage 2000BR (used 2000-9) and modernized F5( which was the vast majority of aircraft.) Brazil has never used or operated gripen C You can check it on the Saab website in the "Brazilian Gripen program" section By the way your videos are always amazing.

[@TimsVariety]

My source for the info was Jane's Information Group. Its entirely possible they're out of date.

[@RyanRothermel-ix4bx]

I just finished America and now I really REALLY want a gripen whar tree that supports the gripen has the best jets. I have been looking at Italy because mig29 but their only two premiums are painful so I will let you guys decide in the comments what nation I should choose

[@zooloomods]

4:48 RB 99 = AIM-120B, same performance but different electronics

[@lucasmoreno2154]

Is this the current Gripen version that Brazil is using? I thought that they were using another version, I didn't know that WT had made it so far on the historical aircraft timeline lol

[@TimsVariety]

My source was Jane's Information Group, but a few commenters from Brazil have said that Brazil is using a slightly newer model. Entirely possible Jane's is a little out of date.

[@RogueKnight423]

Thank you for kmh to mph graphics

[@Blandgren]

What’s the difference between RB75T and the AGM-65G on the Swedish JAS39C and which is better?

[@davinparker3614]

cool but when are you going to do a basic review of the su27sm ??????????

[@TimsVariety]

I'll get to it eventually.

[@davinparker3614]

@@TimsVariety honestly take your time after playing the f15c and f16c using amraams the su27sm seems way inferior to them i had too much hope for russia i guess lol.

[@cooked_reaper]

can you do an updated Kfir c.7 review im playing it and feel like i could to better if i have an updated review(basing everything of your old one)

[@TimsVariety]

Its on the short list for a re-review since its changed so fkn much since it came out, but I'm waiting for the current situation in the mideast to settle down a little before doing any Israeli vehicles. I just don't want to deal with the comments section.

[@cooked_reaper]

@@TimsVariety ah i get it

[@mil-mi24hind]

All the skins are bland? Have you looked at the marketplace stuff for the SA/british gripen?

[@dontworry2379]

BOL pods don’t work rn btw they’re bugged

[@KaguyasBeat]

ACTUALLY-

[@TimsVariety]

ACKSHUALLY!

[@serek1553]

how do you have that crosshair when you look around

[@TimsVariety]

Thats the helmet mounted sight - I covered it in my radar tutorial.

[@dejavu_io]

How are you capable of locking targets out to 34km? Mine seems hard locked at 19km max targeting range.

[@TimsVariety]

Without seeing a clip or something, check your radar mode. Some modes are better at long range in different situations, etc. PD HDN vs PD vs regular SRC for example.

[@dejavu_io]

@@TimsVariety Finally figured it out. Turns out 'Targets cyclic switching of aircraft radar' was turned off in options. I've been playing this game for a year, and playing radar aircraft (gripen A and C) for months without being able to use proper TWS. I never even touched this option 😭 been shooting missiles with ACM and HMS at max 19km range...kill me.

[@TimsVariety]

@@dejavu_io Shameless plug for my radar and missile guides ;-)

[@eotorpex2694]

Aren't the Philippines trying to get their hands on it

[@Red_Lion2000]

MIG23MLD will have a lower BR than the F4-J UK. Lol.

[@GenFalcon]

God the grind is unbearable with the BRs thought, I'm being killed on spawn by missiles from 15klm away and I have no chaff or flares.

[@SuperTitoneli]

Isn't RB99 an aim120b?

[@TimsVariety]

Its stats in-game are identical to the A

[@derboss.]

extra countermeasures don't work. help

[@benjaminkern2586]

Gaijan does br decompression???

[@TimsVariety]

There was a forum post about it, a patch is coming in a few days to do BR decompression above 10.0 and add better stock weapon loadouts to top tier jets.

[@swtpnkckie]

sorry to ask but could you see your self doing a Q@A

[@TimsVariety]

Yes, I have several times before. If I ever hit 100k subs, I'll do another, possibly a livestream or something.

[@swtpnkckie]

@@TimsVariety now a live stream would be a cool idea but it's up to you for what you do

[@halakajajajaj]

30 mins of fuel?! I usualy run on 13-16 min

[@TimsVariety]

I don't think I gave advice for a specific fuel load, but it kindof depends what kind of mission profile you want to fly.

[@halakajajajaj]

​@@TimsVariety yea, in my experience ~15min of fuel + drop tank is enough, drop tank lasts untill you get to the battlefield and having 15m gives you extra agility

[@VictorienLeGoffOndedieu]

first like

[@YungRolex]

To say the gripen is as capable as other nato jets is a bit of a stretch. The goal has always been to make a cheap jet for sweden and export.

[@KiloShock]

Go to bed

[@thade6130]

Not a great bvr plane