Milwaukee Packout 10" Structure Tote - Better than Veto Pro Pac???

[@BigHomie030]

I got this Milwaukee bag about 2 weeks ago and I couldn’t be happier with it. I use it for my garage door business. I got a coupon for $50 off from Home Depot. It’s pricey but to me worth it.

[@TinkerWithTools]

Getting it $50 off is a nice score. I have loved it so far.

[@BigHomie030]

@@TinkerWithTools yes if you bought $199 or more it was $50 off and $299 or more it was $100 off. For Milwaukee pack out merchandise

[@BigHomie030]

@@TinkerWithTools but only online because I went to the store to buy it. But I didn’t because the display models where all scuffed up and I’m glad I didn’t because online I got that $50 off

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

The 15inch tote with the packout bottom is perfect. I used a slim packout tray to make a custom bit kit. Fits 95% of what i need daily.

[@TinkerWithTools]

Nice to hear!

[@hardware20x]

But it’s too big

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

@@hardware20x Nope it's perfect, I just wish the middle divider was more ridgid. If you think it's too big you should probably hit a gym and quit being a bitch.

[@86Sando]

Thanks for making this side by side comparison mate. Very informative. 👍

[@TinkerWithTools]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@thepewplace1370]

Man, thanks for bringing this to my attention! I totally missed this during the pipeline stuff. I've been wanting to go the tote route for a while, but have been stuck between the low quality of Milwaukee's existing soft goods, or going with another brand but not being able to interface it with my packout stuff. I'm extremely interested in how this will hold up to professional daily use, because that price is a steep ask if it's going to fall apart in a year or so. I'll probably hold off buying one for a little while and be looking forward to your followup video.

[@TinkerWithTools]

Yeah, the price increase from the old stuff is going to cause some consternation in buying it I would imagine. They are jumping into a realm that already has a lot of people happy with their VETO for example. That's clearly what they are going at in my mind so it will be interesting to see how well it takes.

[@thepewplace1370]

@@TinkerWithTools I may actually just go with the Veto. It's a known quantity, they have more options, and I'm not thinking I'd put it on my packout much anyhow, since I usually use the worktop on top of the stack

[@TinkerWithTools]

The vetos are certainly nice and have an option for just about everything. I spent days trying to go through each of the options. Ultimately really happy with what I chose.

[@thepewplace1370]

@@TinkerWithTools I got to handle the new packout tote at HD yesterday and it's definitely a significant improvement in build quality over their normal soft goods, but it's also smaller than I was thinking in my head. The assumption I have is that they will also release a 15", so that may coincide with some feedback after field use from you and anyone else who is putting one to the test. I didn't wind up buying the one in store.

[@TinkerWithTools]

They have a 15" tool bag that's out now. I would guess if they sell well, they will continue to expand the lineup.

[@NorthernExposureATV]

Dude doesn't use any of his tools, not a spec of dirt, no worn labels, not a scratch. Atleast this shows us what you can put in it lol

[@Sparisland]

Sorry, any Veto blows the Milwaukee away even if you are a home-gamer.

[@NeroEden5]

Great video! Keep up the great work!

[@TinkerWithTools]

Thanks!

[@steffendetrick]

Are you going to be covering the new tough built modular toool system when they release??

[@TinkerWithTools]

To some degree but I don’t think I’ll buying the whole system to test.

[@steffendetrick]

@@TinkerWithTools the one that everybody is going to be interested in is the bottom rolling drawer box. It is one single large drawer accessible from the front. As someone who is heavily invested in packout this is an item that a lot of us have been asking for. They also offer a large single drawer box. For someone that works out of a van and that has to constantly on stack boxes to retrieve tools from the bottom box. This is a big deal.

[@TinkerWithTools]

My experience with Toughbuilt is that their stuff is well made, but I have often found most things they make to be slightly larger and slightly heavier than what they are competing against. There is a lot to like with their ecosystem if you will. I just wish it could be made lighter. I don't have a specific need to for the box you are talking about but I'll see what I can do.

[@Glocks.Scotch.and.Wristwatch]

@@steffendetricktoughbuilt isn’t going to touch packout. Milwaukee has over 30 new packout launches in 2024. They might be able to compete, but they won’t be able to keep up.

[@adammcmurray5944]

How do 10-12 inch screw drivers fit into this bag and could my m18 gen 4 impact fit into that middle slot? I tried the 15 inch packout tote and hated. im full team red and want this to be the end all for me

[@TinkerWithTools]

I’ll have a KZbin short tomorrow that actually shows it so watch out for it but the screwdriver fits perfectly fine. The impact will fit if you put it a certain way. I’ll show it in the video.

[@jasonbabila6006]

One advantage the Milwaukee version has is the PACKOUT system, it can latch onto a small parts organizer loaded with fasteners or bits and pieces of tool accessories.

[@TinkerWithTools]

Yeah if you are already in the Packout ecosystem then this feels like a great option for a premium tote.

[@nickfishlock8743]

Will the pockets on 1 side all fold in or do you think would be easy to cut out. I need 2 fully open sides. Got the veto that they come out but want to try this as clips in. I put feet on veto and keep smashing them. Thanks

[@TinkerWithTools]

It definitely doesn't have open sides and the pockets won't smash enough for that. If that is a priority, I would suggest look at different bags.

[@krisphillips1873]

There's approx $1500 in hand tools inside that $350 bag for "general home repair"?

[@TinkerWithTools]

Could I make a kit with less expensive tools? Sure you could put together a tool kit for a lot less and I have also done that on the channel. Most of this stuff was acquired over the last 8-9 years but having a tool KZbin channel does give a good excuse for some of the more premium purchases.

[@cfduarte6183]

Hey thanks for the vid. What’s the hard plastic pocket in the bag used for?

[@TinkerWithTools]

In the Veto or in the Milwaukee tote?

[@cfduarte6183]

@@TinkerWithTools Hey I’m sorry the Milwaukee bag, also on that bag there are 6 “loops” on the outside of the bag. Do you have an idea of what that can be used for? Thanks for the reply. Gotta sub!

[@TinkerWithTools]

I initially thought you referring to the Veto so I am not sure what you are talking about in the Milwaukee. If you are referring to the center compartment then I think it’s just for larger tools. I keep my impact driver or drill in it.

[@TinkerWithTools]

As for the loops I haven’t found them useful but I think they would be best used as a bit holder of sorts but they don’t fit it snug enough for me to use it like that.

[@spiderslair66]

In the Veto you have a tall square plastic storage did that come with the Veto or is that another brand?

[@TinkerWithTools]

That came with the VETO. It can fit in one of three locations in that center divider.

[@lehcimst]

Does the plastic VETO insert box fit into the Milwaukee?

[@TinkerWithTools]

It does fit but the Milwaukee bag is a little bit deeper so it sits further down in. There is also nothing to hold it in place like the notches on the veto.

[@nathanielnicolas658]

I just got the 15" closed tote and I love it

[@TinkerWithTools]

I think I would feel the 15" is too big but I have loved this one so I am not surprised.

[@antdibiase2578]

After loading the Milwaukee tote is that pile of tools what would not fit in the milwauke tote? I think I have more questions now than before I watched the video lol

[@TinkerWithTools]

I switched out from the Veto bag to the Milwaukee bag. As part of that I cleaned out stuff that I don't always carry in the bag (from prior projects) but also switched out to some more Milwaukee specific stuff for the video. So what you see is a combination of the leftovers from that.

[@antdibiase2578]

@@TinkerWithTools ok makes sense. I watched the video again and gave it a like. How are you liking it compared to veto and how is it holding up after 2 months of use?

[@TinkerWithTools]

They are incredibly similar. I have an issue with the handle that I talk about briefly in the Top 10 tools of 2023 video, but then there are things that I like better. The size and assortment of the pockets on the Milwaukee seems to work better for the tools I currently have in their and I feel like it's a bit tidier of a load out because of it. Both bags are excellent options though in that high end bag market.

[@stevewilliams5873]

Wera do a stubby set of them Allen Keys even with a ball bearing to hold onto the fixing at arms length too

[@WrenchWarrior99]

@Tinker With Tools what model is that NWS pliers wrench?

[@TinkerWithTools]

N-1664-12-250. That is the sku on KC Tool where I got them.

[@WrenchWarrior99]

@@TinkerWithTools Thank you. They look slick...better than the Knipix version possibly?

[@TinkerWithTools]

So I don’t have a 10” knipex. I picked this up on Black Friday one year for like $30 and I like them. I have a 7 1/2” knipex and I would say the build quality is similar. These feel a little lighter than the other 10” plier wrenches that I have (icon and Klein).

[@HillbillyRefrigeration]

6 months review? I’m looking at getting one and replacing my veto

[@TinkerWithTools]

Gosh I guess it has been that long. I’ll get one recorded soon.

[@SkilledLabor]

Have a few Milwaukee bags, but in my opinion, nothing compares to veto! Nice video

[@TinkerWithTools]

They certainly are the king of the mountain!

[@ducatininja3866]

Have the Veto backpack. Expensive but ohhhhhhh so good.

[@shock196411]

Nice bag! Would a sawzall or drill fit in the middle compartment?

[@TinkerWithTools]

I will have to check it out to be sure but I would bet a one handed hacksaw would. Possibly 12 or 18v. I’ll check and get back to you.

[@r.deanmcknight136]

The Milwaukee hackzall fits, not sure of the sawzall

[@joestoolbox5675]

Nice bag , but for the price i will stick with veto ....Can't beat there 5 year warranty....Nice video...

[@TinkerWithTools]

Milwaukee advertises a limited lifetime warranty. I have reached out to them for clarification and will report back. But I don’t blame you for wanting to stick with Veto. They are really great!

[@pauljamilkowski3672]

I'm in HVAC service and IMO these bags can be your best friend or your worst enemy if you load them up with too many tools. I like this bag, but I don't see enough benefits to spend way more than the normal 10" tote Milwaukee bag I already have which can fit nearly everything I need for most situations.

[@TinkerWithTools]

Yeah I don’t see it holding more than the previous similar sized bat but more being of a higher build quality.

[@alonso507pty4]

do you think this bag will be a good fit for a hvac installer (everyday use)

[@georgelonghurst2672]

Was you reviewing the bag or just ur tools ?? I'm confused 😕

[@TinkerWithTools]

It was a first impression on the bag in comparison to the Veto. Then the load out was shown to give an idea of what I keep in the bag. Sorry it wasn’t more clear.

[@tacsystems5621]

Why do you store your pliers handles up? I find it better to have the handles down. The handles blend together to me.

[@TinkerWithTools]

If I am being honest it had never occurred to me to do it another way. I guess it seemed like a more natural fit in the individuals pouches that way. I am going to try it other way and see if I like it. Appreciate the suggestion.

[@tacsystems5621]

@@TinkerWithTools appreciate your content. It took me a while to develop my philosophy on tool organization. The ideal is being able to see the tool you need from across the room. First order of retrievability as Aden savage would say.

[@a.rivera3529]

Side by side would have been great to see how much bigger in the Milwaukee . Also sorry for posting on other video for whatever reason timing of this one ending went right into another one

[@TinkerWithTools]

They are honestly pretty close to the same size. The Milwaukee is slightly bigger if I remember correctly but what makes it work better for my specific loadout is just the varied size of different pockets allows the tools to fit a little better in them.

[@peterevans8194]

Interesting video...I personally like the Toughbuilt Hardsided Tote...I have the 16" version, and have my eye on the 12" as well...I can buy both for the price of the Veto tote and durability wise, I think they are fairly equal.

[@TinkerWithTools]

I have an older video on the old Medium Toughbuilt Tote. I think it was the 12". It was definitely rugged and well built but I felt like it was too big for what I wanted. Still have the bag... just not my go-to currently.

[@commentsonthetube14]

That knipex wire stripper has definitely replaced lineman’s for me. Though I am just a DIYer, so take it with a grain of salt. I also don’t use wire nuts anymore because wago lever nuts are just much easier to work with. Especially for installing smart lights, which often have pigtails built in. Anyway, I dunno why people use lineman’s with these modern options. Maybe it's just a "what I'm used to" kind of thing, but I've never really found a need for them.

[@TinkerWithTools]

I agree. I enjoy the heavy duty pliers at times for sure but for the majority of that I do those are more than enough.

[@thebeast862]

Hard pill to swallow, "feels more premium" is the most over used trash explanation of something since KZbin reviews started. It's subjective, non-descriptive, and very vague. What makes something feel more premium? Is the leather thicker, did it come from wagyu beef? What's someone's experience and background in leather textiles? How callus is one's hands? Did that affect the feel of it?

[@TinkerWithTools]

To be a bit more specific, compared the 15" tote of their old design, the overall structure of the bag is more rigid. The materials used appear to be thicker and higher quality. The previous bag didn't haven't anything substantial protecting the upper edge of the bag, where it will receive a lot of wear, this has leather just like the ridgid. The strap has more padding and the hardware connecting it to the bag is more robust.

[@jazzmonk5670]

The previous 10’, 15’, 20’ Milwaukee Packout tool bags are constructed just as well and built to last. The new Packout tool bags are no more than an upgrade of their originals, but with “thicker materials” and of course with a “premium” price tag.

[@michaelyoung4550]

If you’ve ever touched different brands of tool bags at different price points, I’m sure you can figure out what it means

[@bryanquick16]

With what Toughbuilt is about to drop Milwaukee is being put on notice.

[@Glocks.Scotch.and.Wristwatch]

Lol not a chance.

[@TinkerWithTools]

I remember a lot of people saying that about Flex Stack Pack back when it first launched too. And now you can barely find it in some stores. I hope the tough built is nice because it would push Milwaukee to keep it up but I think only time will tell if people actually buy it and use. Milwaukee has a strong grip on the market currently.

[@IRoYaILTY]

Haha no way. Still waiting for anything but pack out to hit job sites. Still ain’t seen it

[@bryanquick16]

@@IRoYaILTY The Toughbuilt stuff really just started rolling out to Lowe's stores within the last week. Give it some time.

[@IRoYaILTY]

@@bryanquick16 said the same about Klein, dewalt, rigid, flex, etc. plus “toughbuilt” just sounds corny

[@NonieTools]

I have 3 of the purdy folding 5-in-1s and they all have the same flaw: when putting any downward pressure on the handle while the blade is out, combined with sideways pressure, the back end of the folding blade moves away from the locking mechanism and the blade closes, often cutting or pinching me in the process. I still use one every day but i don't recommend hitting it with a hammer even though there's a metal butt that is made for hitting.

[@TinkerWithTools]

I appreciate you giving the feedback on that. Certainly something to keep in mind.

[@mifi5913]

I looked at it at Home Depot. They dropped the ball with no pockets at all on the long sides. What is with all this craze for stackable tool “systems”. I am an hvac service tech and am not going to wheel a stack of tool boxes up to every service call. I need a single shoulder bag that fits my needs and most come up short in a couple key areas. Also not weigh 20 lbs before any tools are in it. I wish these tool companies would consult with actual blue collar trade people on designing tool bags and such.

[@TinkerWithTools]

I think this is just the start of these style of bags and totes from Milwaukee. I wouldn't be shocked if you saw smaller bags eventually as well. Much like we already have from Veto.

[@edwardreid2598]

So which one? Veto or Milwaukee?….. can’t make my ind up!!! No home depo here in the uk!!😢

[@TinkerWithTools]

I just did a 6 month review and I think the Veto (the Tech OT-MC) is likely to find a new home and I'll keep the Milwaukee. There are just a few things about it that I like a little bit more. Make no mistake the Veto is a great bag (and I have three other products from Veto) but in this particular bag, I tip my hat to the Milwaukee.

[@ryanmachan1302]

Do you currently have the folding Purdy tool? I do, and I have always been looking for a good fixed one to replace it. Do you like the Goldblatt? The Purdy one has one major problem for me, which is that the position of the release for folding it back up is too close to where I am already gripping the tool if I need to put a little bit more effort into something. If you are really scraping hard and holding it with your full grip, it can fold back up again and you have to pay a lot of attention to your grip or else have it pinch you.

[@TinkerWithTools]

I don't. The concept seems like a great idea but you aren't the first person to point out it's flaws. I'm just always intrigued by haven't the tool in a smaller form factor. The Goldblatt is night... I ended up getting it because it was the stainless version and would be more rust reisistent and look better longer. Functionally I don't know that it's all that much different.

[@TheDocHolliday]

I don’t think it’s a major upgrade to the 10” to justify price.

[@jjsifo1]

Did I see a multimeter or not ?Please do not rely on voltage detectors alone. And thanks for the video !👍🏼

[@TinkerWithTools]

I have a multimeter that lives in my tool box unless I am going to be doing more dedicated electrical work, and then I will grab it and put in the center compartment. The voltage detector lives in the bag all the time.

[@jjsifo1]

@@TinkerWithTools Great !

[@187mfcops]

I use my Milwaukee bag for HVAC/R perfect for troubleshooting.

[@TinkerWithTools]

It’s a good size for my needs. Carries enough things without being too heavy.

[@Animeandmore-2069]

I get mine Tuesday

[@TinkerWithTools]

You will have to let me know what you think. What do you currently use?

[@Animeandmore-2069]

@@TinkerWithTools I have the Milwaukee structure 15”tool bag version, I love it, there both a major upgrade over the previous 10” and 15” totes.

[@carriv]

would've helped if you put them side by side

[@TinkerWithTools]

I appreciate the feedback!

[@PacRimElectric]

Vessel is a good tool very comfortable

[@TinkerWithTools]

I really like them.

[@guynathanhall5545]

Veto okay if you wedge it fed up off picking tools up use a dewalt tote now

[@kimberHD45]

If I can get one that doesn’t say Milwaukee I’d be interested

[@Elementadventurer]

Veto Pro Pac for the win, always!

[@Bloodsong0830]

My veto says made in Vietnam so idk

[@MarineRecon6682]

Nothing is better then Veto

[@TinkerWithTools]

They are the king!

[@MarkMcLarenVaingit]

It's twice the price of the original tote 10" so I'd expect a better quality 🤣I'll stick with the bigger tote, it sits on packout stack better and holds more while coming in at same price. This is the Gucci sparky tote, always going to be shiny and rarely get any serious beating....

[@garryparkes9121]

A Milkie fan boy

[@TinkerWithTools]

I like Milwaukee, that is true. But I also like a lot of different Milwaukee Competitors including Veto Pro Pac. I think it's nice that there is a nice alternative to the clear leader in the market.

[@dwdrummer4]

Wise man once said “never trust reviewer with clean tools”

[@djchaisson]

Saw the price and laughed my ass off! Milwaukee is drunk.

[@jeradkiester698]

Veto has been drunk forever.

[@TinkerWithTools]

I think they are just matching Vetos price point to be honest. Some will find it worth it. Others won’t. Luckily they still have the lower price options if you prefer.

[@djchaisson]

@@TinkerWithTools definitely! Also I try and hit the sale promotion Veto has. Only time to buy and get some great savings!

[@TinkerWithTools]

Yeah their spring promotion is the best. Two bags for the price of one.

[@smith13579100]

How do you not have the best driver in the world. A Robertson...😅😂

[@TinkerWithTools]

Robertson just isn't as common in the US outside of pocket hole screws. I have a bunch of robertson bits and depending on the work, I will definitely have one in my kit... just not part of the standard tool kit since I never run into them otherwise. I think robertson (or square drive) is one of the better drive methods. Torx is more common here so most of my screws that I buy are torx becuase of their superior characteristics to phillips.

[@skyemac8]

The Veto looks obviously smaller to the extent of being too small. I think I’ll go with the Milwaukee.

[@TinkerWithTools]

My tool load out did fit a little bit better in the Milwaukee, but that came down to the individual pockets being slightly larger and therefore accommodating larger tools. But with that said, I do feel it worth mentioning that while Milwaukee has a 10" open top, 15" open top, 15" closed bag and a backpack in these new style of bags, veto has 14 different tools bags that are considered open top alone, all of different sizes. Picking either one will give you a quality bag but there are a lot of options on the Veto side.

[@skyemac8]

The slightly larger OT by Veto is better. Also the addition of Packout dividers snapped on the bottom adds to the sets utility.

[@IRoYaILTY]

Buy once, cry once. Get the veto.

[@cdub9855]

Nice bag but not worth the 200 price tag

[@TinkerWithTools]

Just curious, do you feel Veto is worth it or just no bag is worth that price?

[@cdub9855]

@TinkerWithTools from what I have seen they seem a little nice then Milwaukee but I don't have one so I can't say they are any better though I have the 10 inch bag of Milwaukee and it's pretty nice but it's still not worth the $69 it costed

[@cdub9855]

I myself like the tool backpacks better then bags just because u can turn them over and not have to worry about the stuff falling out

[@TinkerWithTools]

I get that. They came out with a backpack at the same time but if you think the 219 is a bit much the 269 or something they want for that will be overpriced as well.

[@cdub9855]

@TinkerWithTools yeah I seen it and I want it pretty badly but yeah it's way overpriced I mean it's a backpack/ bag at top dollar maybe 120 not over that though but it looks really nice

[@luisr1223]

Definitely looks a lot like a veto ot-mc 😂😂😂😂

[@TinkerWithTools]

Yeah, they definitely had a target.

[@leon9350]

This bag is tooooooo heavy

[@TinkerWithTools]

What do you use alternatively. Compared to its direct competition in the Veto it’s pretty similar.

[@leon9350]

@@TinkerWithTools Yes. Milwaukee copied Veto for this bag. So the Veto Pro Pac medium tote is same too heavy.I'm an electrician. I like tougher tool bags, with each tool having its place. And I need to take my tool bag walk around. So the tool bag must be lighter. I have used Veto. It's really heavy. Now I using Toughtbuilt 10" tool tote. It's lighter than Veto. But still not very satisfied.

[@Jakepp235]

Thought Milwaukee was made in Israel?

[@TinkerWithTools]

The bag is made in China.

[@dellovell3711]

Vito is far better than that

[@TinkerWithTools]

Not against saying that Veto makes a good bag but for you what is it that is far better?

[@ramtrucks721]

No way better than Veto

[@TinkerWithTools]

I think I might still prefer my veto but I wouldn’t be unhappy with the pack it. And if I was deep into pack out it would be nice to have the compatibility