Timing a Hyway 272xp Titanikel cylinder for the 268xp.

[@GlynnRussell-ew3pp]

Tinman iam a old school Stihl man and have been for years but since watching you build and work on those 288 and 372 huskys I ventured to the other side and purchased me a 372 farmertec kit . I put skf bearings and cleaned the ports up and chamfered around them and had a blast building the saw and let me tell you she's a runner and now I pick up the 372 every time I go to cutting. There are a few things I really like about it over Stihl and weight is the main one . Compared to my stihl ms441 to me feels heavier with 372 lighter and same power. Iam a orange and blue man now . Stihls are for back up! Lol

[@aaronpowell4885]

First numbers I've seen of hyway's titanikel cylinders. Atleast for this series of cylinder, they're looking good!

[@tazman-kennyfuller]

Awesome Tinman. Hey buddy I don't know much about timing but the timing wheel read 68° not 72. Not sure what that number affects. Thank you for sharing this build. Love it. 🌲❤🌲✊🪓

[@Berk-nz6uk]

excited to watch the build on this saw. I saw 68 on the intake timing, but my eyes aren't the best. lol. can't wait for the next one

[@SOHN32]

It nice how some nicer things bring good memories back. And unfortunately how it brings the bad out in some when it comes time getting things from our loved ones.

[@justinweaver8787]

Some body is goin 2 get a great saw this is goin to be a great project. Have a great week buddy.

[@230e4]

Having a machine shop turn the piston down .010 or so for those without a lathe is very doable and inexpensive. Having them turn down the cylinder not so much unless the shop already has a mandrel made for it. It is great when there is several options to reach your desired numbers. Excited to see what you decide to do on this build.

[@230e4]

My grandpa passed in 84. I have things in my shop that remind me of him as well. I get the same feeling when I show my sons his old saws and tools. Thanks for sharing.

[@eoinprendergast8703]

Super stuff tinman from Ireland crew 👍

[@byronrees378]

Hi tinman love your video. I am just starting to learn how to time power saws And your video are very helpful keep up the good work.

[@hisWACness]

Love the first fire of the season. We're a bit behind you here in Norther Ohio. Still pretty warm.

[@BourbonDrinker]

It's chilly here in Houston too, almost 70 degrees last night.

[@blythkd9017]

Loved the video. Can't wait to see the outcome. It's like baking a cake and changing the amount of an ingredient a bit to see how it'll turn out. How about "thanks for watching CSPN - The Canadian Saw Porting Network"?

[@Righound4]

I kinda like your “catch phrase” take er easy… later. (And the wave) 👍

[@stuartramage5933]

Awesome. Peace from Scotland

[@Charlie-Saringo]

Titanisil flaking I use a 3/8 stone ball bit to chamfer ahead of my port cut . #1attempt flaked in the lower transfer with metal bit so no problem. # 2 and 3 saws used the stone ball before all cuts and no flaking

[@alexflieshigh]

Best intro haha! She's got 6 glow plugs working

[@blythkd9017]

Yeah that was good. Sounded like a noisy ol 6.5, too loud to be a Dmax. Surprised a 6.5 started as well as did on 6 plugs at zero temp.

[@brandonhall5561]

Would you clarify how you got the 72° I see 68° on the wheel. Still learning here And want to make sure I'm not missing something. Thanks for all the awesome content👍

[@sagebrushhillbilly4655]

There is a difference in perspective between where his eye is and the lense of the camera.

[@averyjones1098]

68 is correct but this can be tricky as once you reach bdc the numbers go down to zero until tdc probably since he was reading it from above so we could get a good shot but that aside he is very talented and has good information to share

[@kenbell9564]

Yeah, I seen 68 also Brandon!

[@johnsonlong1272]

You see 68 because of the camera angle. I have done this as well when you're seeing it in real person you're getting an accurate straight on number but when you show someone in camera the numbers they see will be anywhere from three to five degrees off. if you watched some of his other videos early on you will TinMan mention that the camera numbers are different. I once took pictures of my timing number so I wouldn't have to write them down immediately when I look at the pictures I realize they were all wrong and had to re-time the engine and write the numbers down in a notebook.

[@sagebrushhillbilly4655]

@@johnsonlong1272 you nailed it.

[@shaner67]

Tinmaaaaan, opinions are like... Well you know?!. Anyway, I like the idea of opening up the lower transfers and the intake floor. Simple and pretty much off the shelf which is what this build is about.. Just my thoughts for what it's worth.. Have a great weekend man and keep putting it up because we all get something out of the builds.. SLANT'E

[@jeffreyrubish347]

Keep us posted, Tinman!

[@waynecostanza2280]

Off the shelf!

[@Sam-ix9gd]

Use 2 pieces of solder across from one another. Otherwise the piston rocks a bit due to clearance and youll measure more squish than you actually have. Nice videos.

[@JoeDavis82]

Going bigger is usually better in most cases!

[@hisWACness]

I like the idea of off the shelf, but the lathe option sounds like the best option, no?? Excited to hear what path you choose. Either way, I'm sure she'll rip good!! One lucky dog is gonna get a sweet saw!!! Blessings bro.

[@tdawg8605]

Great info...love this content. I was thinking of doing the top end on my 268se and bumping it up with the 272 set up so this info is priceless. I don't have the tools to port it so I think of just plug and play. But a timing wheel could be added soon to my tool box. Again Great stuff Tinman, the finish product anticipation is intriguing to me can't wait to see this saw rip.🤙Mahalo bud.

[@averyjones1098]

You can get one on Amazon cheap i have a motion pro since thats what ironhorse uses

[@tinmanssaws]

The motion pro is probably the best wheel as its smaller then my setup so its great for saws.

[@tdawg8605]

@@averyjones1098 that's the one I picked out on Amazon.ca. Thanks for the feedback.

[@johnlincicum6390]

@@tinmanssaws 68 not 72.

[@johnlincicum6390]

@@tinmanssaws 68 not 72.

[@rogercrouse5531]

The intake timed at 68 not 72

[@jimhofoss9982]

i was reading 68° on the intake timing…

[@bennyblanko3]

Yeah, I think the Tinman went the wrong way on his 2 - should be 68 degrees.

[@shaner67]

That's what I seen as well. Either way the intake numbers have room for improvement

[@edwingroening5087]

My Stihl 044 has almost the exact numbers. Exhaust 98° Transfers 115° Intake 72° I'm curious to see what you do with this one.

[@sagebrushhillbilly4655]

The 044 is on my "really want" list.

[@Woodman_Custom_Sawing]

How about "grind on friends". 😁👍

[@skipmole612]

Seems to me the best plan is to simply buy the Hyway cylinder, bolt it on and get cutting.

[@felixbinette9752]

Yes I have 5 diesels cold is hard.

[@markatkinson9963]

Liking this build

[@srip63]

Great stuff going on here. How do I get in on the giveaway? How do you do the giveaways, live ?

[@brittainwright1]

Yeah, I agree with others here. 72 on the intake was a misread not a camera perspective issue. IMHO I think it's 68.

[@errolpoxleitner7901]

Have you ever skirted the intake on the piston it makes a hell of a difference. I have been hot rodding saws for 30 years it's like putting a cam in it.just the intake skirt 4mm.

[@jadeolin8514]

Are you talking about just cutting the skirt off, or putting the reverse crescent in it?

[@joshfisher2345]

Hi Tinman, great videos, just wondering if it was necessary to time a new cylinder if you have not ported it? Cheers

[@timothybyrom5560]

Don't let your bar dry out.

[@jensenwilliam5434]

Thank you

[@cecilkoselke7878]

Here's a catch phrase for ya. "Ya may not think much of me, but in my eyes, I'm in portin'"

[@KB_Joys]

Is that a pulse line hole I seen on the intake? Does that hole go all the way through?

[@simpleman4224]

Curious to see what you come up with! 👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@jamiedalluge9472]

Saw 68 as well

[@AnDrEw122100]

You guys are in the negatives already lol? Ol winterpeg eh lol , still 15 degrees in Newfoundland crazy .

[@BRKS-fj2jt]

6 thou is insane

[@steelcityperformancesaws]

We had are first day below zero also today in northern Ontario

[@tinmanssaws]

-5 here this morning, winters comin!!

[@2eyedjack433]

@@tinmanssaws good God! It's still a balmy 68 during the day and about 35 at night here in Northern New Mexico. Cut my first lad of wood last weekend with my husqvarna 261.

[@2eyedjack433]

Forgot to add I'm going to pick up a Mac 850 I payed for a moth ago this weekend too! Cheers ..

[@tinmanssaws]

I dont feel bad, 35 is just above freezing. Thats -5 crlcius thats 23f if I did the conversion right..

[@aaronpowell4885]

@@2eyedjack433 got down to 38 last week here in Southeast New Mexico. Otherwise 50s night and 70s-80s afternoon.

[@justinterrell9555]

What's up with the ported echo 590 anything new on it?

[@johnsonlong1272]

TINMAN, revisit your wheel on the intake numbers was that 72 or 68 dungrees? Were you reading from the wrong side we've all done it a time or two rotation direction will mess with you too.

[@tommyeliasson7067]

Yep. Read it the wrong way. Hope you notice tinman 😊

[@mrxlh]

Run it with a base gasket with just the flash removed from the exhaust, port the transfers and intake?

[@codyroger9581]

When measuring something soft with your vernier one should use the flats to measure. You could get a inaccurate measure with the tips as they can cut into the solder.

[@aaronpowell4885]

I agree 100% but... sometimes when measuring squish, the squish band and piston profile squeeze the solder in a V shape.

[@codyroger9581]

@@aaronpowell4885 any time I’ve checked it it’s usually flat..

[@kuiperroerdink1670]

Nice video brother. Very informative. How do we get in on winning this saw when it’s done?

[@Piledriver2235]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@timothybyrom5560]

If you cut it your squish will be back to two thousandths. I would leave out the base gasket, cut the piston, and leave a little dome if I could.

[@canadiancutterschannel6787]

Hey Tinman could you do a build on a 262xp

[@williamboner6924]

Intakes could also give more lubricant

[@michaels3288]

Don't you lose skwish when you cut the base?

[@johnwallner301]

Keep your bar oil close?

[@timothybyrom5560]

You'd still be using the lathe that most of us don't have.

[@ozdatman]

Lathe it, you have the tools. More blowdown would make it a nicer saw. Yeah, I think 68 not 72 buddy.

[@tim2140-c7z]

what kind of mileage do ya get in the ol girl?

[@shelbywilson114]

Lol. Couldn't think of a catch phrase

[@rogerford4427]

🤔 should I , we will want

[@TuanAnhNguyen-vm5gu]

Nó ra đời năm nào bác ơi

[@timothybyrom5560]

Keep it cuttin.

[@eduardohernandez4642]

How do I get ahold of you for saw work?

[@BRKS-fj2jt]

16 degree blow down can you run it with open muffler

[@Ketis1985]

Thats not enough blowdown. You need 20 degrees. Physically too high transfers will cause poor scavengin and unburned fuel will be wasted through exhaust port. Machine work (cutting base and squish band) should have been done to that cylinder to get those transfers lower to 120 and then to raise exhaust to 100.

[@crperformancetucker5065]

How do you get entered to win the saw?

[@mikeremski2102]

0F or 0C?

[@rchighfield1]

I may be the only one that wants this…but after just tearing down the nastiest saw I’ve ever seen in 50+ years, how about showing your process for cleaning in preparation of building. I’ve picked up many tips from you and always looking for a new or better way. I may be 69 but I try to think someone else could have a better idea.

[@tinmanssaws]

If a saw is really bad I'll take it to the carwash and hose it down before I tear into it

[@johnsonlong1272]

Like tinman said pressure wash it right before you tear it apart. I pressure wash the outside then pull the plastic covers and wash the insides of those and down around the cylinder and as much of the saw as I can get to. But you must take the cylinder off right after that and get the water out of the crankcase if you get any inside of her and you likely will. If you leave moisture in the crankcase the crank bearings will rust up If you leave the cylinder on trapping the humidity inside for an extended period Of time especially if you use hot water or degreaser I use both and it's not a problem as long as you pull the cylinder dry out the crankcase with a little shop air or a hair dryerthen I spray a little bit of light spray oil like wd-40 any kind of lubricant will work, sprayed into the bearings and on the crank to keep things from rusting.

[@rchighfield1]

@@johnsonlong1272 that works well above zero degrees…below zero, not so much.

[@timothybyrom5560]

Full house rakers down.

[@DIESELMAN8V92]

if it aint ported its thwarted ;)