Tiny Whoop to Super Whoop - lighter, faster, Inductrix killer

[@daveb2436]

Still have mine. Hope you're doing well...Dave B

[@lucasgerain1779]

I love your video because I come from Belgium and I don’t speak very well but with the subtitles I can understand almost all and that’ such fine.

[@lucasgerain1779]

*”I don’t speak English very well”

[@Mjk112]

Awesome video thanks so much for sharing. Also your PID. I am a long time RC pilot but new and loving getting into the small FPV Tony whoops.

[@OxcydeGaming]

Dont cheap out on a camera mount, i used a rubber band on my Beecore and shorted out my ESC when the camera slipped off.

[@thelongranger55]

OxcydeGaming exactly something will burn up that way , use a good mount

[@nolsmtm]

take the black cover off the antenna to save even more weight. Also, you can get rid of the 2 canopy screws and just glue it with a tiny bit of uhu por.

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

Thanks for the advice!

[@CORINKERSTEN]

Awesome video mate!!! Planing to do this soon!!!

[@kj4gmu]

Thanks for the video. I just ordered the setup. I have been wanting tu upgrade my inductrix. seems like a good time.

[@The0nionKnight]

My build is exactly like yours. Flys great!

[@tdogfpv]

same but i put a carbon stiffener on mine and it weighs in at 20 grams!

[@morshaFPV]

how long do you fly? Which batts do you use? Mine is 20 grs witha ver very similar setup but with a carbon stiffener

[@muteFPV]

Nice build mate!

[@stevenholdt]

Good build man! Might build on myself! Haven’t seen many that light

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

I just got the Emax TinyHawk and it performs so much better and is far more durable. I would recommend it over any brushed whoop for sure. I would like to make a review for it but I am moving to Texas next weekend so my time is very limited. My might do a quick review if I find some time.

[@Jimster71]

I'm building something similar but with stock props and 17500kv motors. I've also got a carbon fiber cross brace to make the frame more rigid, it weighs about a gram. Have you seen about running the motors in the stock inductrix locations, rather than the betaflight motor positions? The duct supports are angled on the inductrix frame so it is designed to have the motors a certain way (the supports are flat on the E010 frame) EDIT: Found a UK seller of the Rakonheli 3 blade props, so have picked up a set of those to try out.

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

Jimster71 I noticed the same thing in my build. I don't think it is possible to change the motor directions but it seems to me to not make any noticeable difference.

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

It's actually very easy to change motor direction. Just copy and past into CLI: set yaw_motor_direction = -1

[@MrRampage45]

Thank you very much for getting back

[@SteveRCPilot]

Nice build and I like your hoops, they look just like mine!

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

Thanks! Good hoops are definitively worth the time and money.

[@lewismccracken6073]

My build is 17.3g and i have betaflight osd and a full range futaba rx with 67000rpm motors and 260mah 45c batts, it flies..

[@acesonthego2287]

nice channel, and you did a great job brother

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

Thank you!

[@solid_spec]

got mine to 18.8g using furibee board and frame, and 2 blade prop mod. same camera and canopy.

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

Nice! Are you using the stock FC? The aftermarket FC's are almost 2 grams heavier.

[@leightonboster3332]

marsdog me too furibee is super good for some reason. but even better is the jjrc h26 hex with 14kv motors and the 4 blade props from tiny whoop this thing goes much faster than any tiny whoop ive seen.

[@weirdscience8341]

I use a nihui E10 board accelerometer and gyro are good and I'm considering trying out a beta85 frame and 8.5 mm motors just a bit confused as to what battery to get a 260mah 45c should be ok

[@youngfamilyfarms]

Hey, love the video, inspired me to build the same one. I also noticed the frame rotated 90 degrees, when you switched this how did it affect what motor went where and prop direction? I have head you want the motor direction to match the direction of the angle of the motor struts to create smother airflow and less drag and to accomplish this you must reverse all motor directions in the cli in beta flight. I am wondering what color motor leads to put on what corner of the quad and where to plug them into the board as well as cw vs ccw prop rotation

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

Joshua Young I noticed the FC was on sideways and fixed it before flying. look in video description to change motor direction. After that all you need is to change the props to match. I did not notice a difference in performance but it won't hurt.

[@gymkhanadog]

Yeah, Whoopin' is great but I'm going brushless now since they weigh within 7-10 grams of a normal whoop, have better power to weight and cost about the same;

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

I agree, brushed is dead. I am still looking for the right tiny whoop style brushless quad. This one looks like it has potential. www.boldclash.com/boldclash-b06-fpv-racing-drone-f3-blheli-esc-15000kv-m0703-800tvl-camera-25mw-48ch-vtx-p133.html?AK14014411&

[@Jimster71]

How did you arrive at the pid values you are using?

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

My PID values are really close to the stock PID values that came on the board. In acro it wast holding it angle very well but these PIDs seemed to fix it for me.

[@shadeshiest22]

I want a whoop with like a 8minute flight time.....

[@thelongranger55]

Nick Hall try lowest kv motors you can find like 6mm 14,500 kv

[@Minusliquid16]

Can that pid used to my e011 board?

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

I don't think that is possible on that board but even if it was I wouldn't.

[@StupidityExodusHub]

Love that you call these helicopters quads instead of following the "drone" trend.

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

I do not like the term "drone" either.

[@overdrive-fpv8759]

Hey man, Great video overall! Audio is perfect and quality of video is also oustanding. Thanks for this video! One question: how's the reception with the dipole when you fly in your house? I'm planning to build this thing too but I'm not sure about the performance of the VTX.

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

OverDrive-FPV Thanks. Video reception is good in my house, but in a metal covered building like a gym it can get a bit rough.

[@E-LUV]

why dont you make a stretched whoop and see how that flies.maybe the back arms elongated like a stretched motorcycle. or maybe a v-tail if thats possible

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

Due to the lack of power there's not really a whole lot you can do to a tiny whoop to improve performance. If more performance is your thing then you need to go the brushless rout. I should be getting the new EMAX babyhawk in a week or so, or when it is finally released.

[@E-LUV]

i was just about to try this as a first build. but the site says there are no whoop flight controllers compatible with flysky turnigy evolution. which is being shipped to me now.

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

That's a bummer, I really like that transmitter also.

[@E-LUV]

albert kim has a vid adding the flysky a8s to them. ill likely have to go that route

[@leonardvdj]

I know I'm a month late, but either you can use the flysky a8s with an FC that supports iBus, or you can get the Eachine Beecore f3 FC, www.banggood.com/Beecore-F3_EVO_Brushed-ACRO-Flight-Control-Board-DSM2-For-Inductrix-Tiny-Whoop-Eachine-E010-p-1089021.html Turnigy uses the flysky protocol, and you can choose that on that FC :)

[@NAHTYDREDZ]

got mines just under 19 and a half grams the best and lightest frame is the betafpv frame check it out. with the same canopy and cam and I cut 2 blades off the 4 trust me that frame will amaze you when you put it on the scale lightest tiny whoop style frame to date

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

Thanks for sharing, I have to check this out.

[@docuzzie]

On these tiny whoops, how do you know which motor to put in the CW and the CCW spots? On bigger motors it's quite clear, on these little guys, I cannot seem to find it.

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

The original inductrix spins opposite of normal direction. Aftermarket boards usually spin in the normal direction. I would hook your whoop to beta flight and look in the configuration tab (top left) and see how it is set up. There will be arrows on each motor indicating the required motor rotation.

[@MrRampage45]

How large are the circle gates

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

They are about 22 inches/500mm wide.

[@mellecorbiere3073]

Does the circuit board come with acro?

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

You are able to setup acro mode in BetaFlight.

[@TYB439]

Why do most of the links not work????

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

Most of these products don't exist anymore with brushless taking over but I did update the links to similar products.

[@PMR5571]

awesome vid bro

[@smileybrotherslawncare9599]

What kv are the motors? Are they the 19600s?

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

In this video I used 18,300 kv motors.

[@smileybrotherslawncare9599]

Is the expensive fc needed?

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

This fc allows for a better radio and has much better control but you can upgrade the motors on an eachine E010 and use the asrock controller.

[@smileybrotherslawncare9599]

Crash N Burn Racing okay, thanks for the help! I'm thinking of building a whoop or buying one

[@thelongranger55]

Smiley Brothers Lawn Care you can buy a flysky transmitter for pretty cheap cause they have a good selection of flight controllers and receivers for inexpensive prices compared to frsky or buy one of the jumper transmitters that have multiprotocol built into it so you can use a wide range of flight controllers and receivers ,

[@ToddtheLoneDroner]

I have bought the connex falcore . racing drone have you heard of it or tried it

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

I have seen videos of it flying, it is a very interesting craft.

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

Thanks!

[@michaelpetale6872]

Great vid bro thanks!😜👏🥇🏆

[@jandomingo9806]

triblade or 2 blade?

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

I prefer the triblades with running faster motors but since there so expensive compared to the normal props cutting them down to two blade is an acceptable option with running super fast motors and up.

[@r3verseb4ckfl1p]

Hey mate, great video. sorry if I've missed it somewhere but what vtx was used for this build?

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

The vtx is built into the camera, a link to it is in the video description.

[@joshuasimon3588]

are you still running stock clean flight or did you flash beta flight? if beta flight what version?

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

Josh Simon I am running betaflight 3.0. I do plan on updating it to 3.1 but just haven't needed to.

[@joshuasimon3588]

Kory Westers thank you so much for the quick reply. you are a huge help!

[@ControllFpv]

you need a better tune. and insane motors then your good to go

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

I filmed this in stability mode, it flies a lot smother in acro.

[@assimeon]

are you using betaflight? which firmware for the fc spracingf3 evo?

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

I have BF 3.0.1

[@docuzzie]

Does the build have OSD?

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

The Beecore V2 does have OSD.

[@docuzzie]

Thank you soo much for the really rapid reply. I subscribed and will make this my first "personal" build. I have a Frysky radio so will likely elect the 44 dollar board that offers the telemetry etc. I might also look and see if there's some more powerful motors available. I do realize top speed is not as effective as good speed, agility and skill but just being curious. Again, Thank you!!

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

Thanks for the sub!

[@E-LUV]

quality vid. thanks

[@bamboo365]

Did you have to turn the board round it's not in line with the battery slot easy mistake to make

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

Good eye! Yes I did, it didn't take me long to find that mistake after the video.

[@dangerfpv492]

I think your canopy is on wrong

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

I actually had the FC sideways.

[@Xplicit_fpv]

love it

[@mafiafpv3469]

But it's not under 20grams you need to add the battery so it'll definitely be over 20grams

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

Different batteries have different weights, so to come up with a standardized system you do not include the battery.

[@chinaminidrone7918]

that is a simple tiny whoop. those motor is CL company, they call it 19000KV ,but it is not readly, watch my video.

[@SirKittyMcMittens]

sub'd. great vid man, my build is almost the same as yours except my camera is about a gram lighter, but I'm using an JJRC H36 frame. I'm about 1.2 grams heavier than you lol

[@aqualibrium545]

which camera you using?

[@SirKittyMcMittens]

Luke Flint m.banggood.com/Eachine-Fatbee-FB90-Micro-Racing-Quadcopter-Spare-Parts-5_8g-25MW-48CH-VTX-520TVL-CMOS-14-Camera-p-1108072.html

[@MattiaChiarelli]

You can buy a Furibee frame for less than 2$ on gearbest and that will be light as the inductrix one

[@paulterl4563]

Subscribed. btw too much noise fron this vtx. ciao

[@CrashNBurnRacing]

Thanks! Yeah the video is not the greatest but the metal structured gym is not the best place for fpv.

[@lusicilusci4420]

If you buy a carbon frame (expensive) ,you can make it more lighter

[@The0nionKnight]

Lusici Lusci I thought the carbon frames were heavier ?

[@mcqueezi3388]

anything is better than the inductrix, even an air hog

[@ToddtheLoneDroner]

subbd u