Titan submersible disaster: 'This never happened before, and will never happen again'

[@SMF314]

Excellent analysis. A sobering example of ignoring known risks in an unforgiving environment. Thanks!

[@JasonBoyce]

I don't think you have to worry too much about this happening again, there was (so far) only one knucklehead stupid enough to try this on the cheap

[@bobjohnson205]

Yeah, and he's dead!

[@keerose4769]

And he was Rich 🤑

[@Halli50]

"...it will never happen again" is a statement that will probably stand the test of time. In all the decades of deep-sea explorations, this is the first fatal accident. This was also the first time someone ventured outside the generally accepted and safe way to reach these depths, and it will be decades - if ever - that anyone will try for a repeat.

[@DarkShroom]

yeah right, this is like saying a plane will never crash again, hardly anyone can afford submarine rides at the moment

[@nickromo8195]

​@@DarkShroomit would be like saying no other plane will ever crash again if no other plane had ever crashed before

[@Modern-gu2it]

@@DarkShroom umm...no it's not. Planes don't implode, no matter how high the plane is capable of going. This sub wasn't if it was going to be a disaster it was when. It's virtually russian roulette and adding one more bullet to the chamber every time it spins. Certified subs cost and we're not talking just money but time like into the millions and we're talking years to complete it, oceangate completely ignores all of that and paid the price.

[@NazriB]

Lies again? Most Irresistible Titan

[@YZ250W1]

Rush won't do it again. A legend in his own mind.

[@gdewyg]

It seems money and ignorance played role leading to this incident

[@Elizabeth-yg2mg]

But the guy who set it up shouldn't have been ignorant.

[@bobjohnson205]

A clear case of more money than brains!

[@lynnyhen]

And arrogance.

[@wilfredolopez9865]

Isn't that the root of all evil 95 percent of the time

[@grahambuckerfield4640]

@@Elizabeth-yg2mg He was a born into wealth libertarian, not a group known for taking informed advice.

[@DouglasRosser]

Pro tip - Don't let someone else's Dunning Kruger lead to your Darwin Award.

[@feathermerchant]

Underrated comment!

[@stringsgalore]

I need this on a shirt!

[@stuartb3609]

Next up, one of the tourist flights to space.

[@ajeveryone1232]

Hopefully and looking forward to it.

[@MOMO41837]

Exactly It's only a matter of time...

[@beavermacadventures]

Nah.....they actually do thier job and don't take shortcuts

[@markmassy]

Using carbon fiber for deep sea submersibles is just stupid!

[@WhitneyAllisonGG]

My feeling a boat or anything that goes in the water should never have "Titan" in it. It's obvious for lay person and understand that pressure build as deeper you go. The Titan submersible is like an egg in underwater just ready to be smashed.

[@nunyabisniss1179]

Absolutely insane narcissist killed those people.

[@LogicAndReason2025]

A lot was due to the shape of the hull, but the real problem was the uncertainties of the material.

[@62Cristoforo]

The material was fine; it was the excessive pressure that did them in.

[@StevenELewis-kb8sm]

Experts have said that carbon fiber under compression was the wrong material to use. The epoxy matrix or whatever was the only thing supporting all that water weight. The carbon fiber was doing nothing but braking up little by little each drive it took. Carbon fiber doesn't make noises without being compromised.

[@konradyearwood5845]

What people do not appreciate is when materials rupture under those pressures any cracks that occur will propogate at the speed of sound in the material and that is faster than in air.

[@shortmeister4321]

Such an avoidable tragedy.😔

[@Carl_Grissom_Sr]

Aren’t rich people going on private space flights made by other rich people?

[@Elizabeth-yg2mg]

It's a matter of time until one of those explodes.

[@Carl_Grissom_Sr]

@@Elizabeth-yg2mgRight? To each their own, but not this lad, even if I had the spare million 😂

[@mrsansen8619]

Yes. Isn't it amazing? Somewhere nature always finds a way to balance order.

[@RichWinder-je5xn]

Shaft's bent and the rear end leaks, you can fix her quick with an oily rag. Use a nail to start her - I lost the key. Don't pay no mind to that whirring sound. She uses a bit of oil; but, outside of that, she's cherry. Now, all aboard for trip to the bottom of the ocean.

[@spud2go]

Modelling your business venture around a human tragedy where hubris & ego over care & attention cost lives - oh, the irony.

[@Madmun357]

2:39 sweetie, your father NEVER went to 13,000 feet in his Navy career.

[@A-DUBCLUB]

Margin of error.. at those depths is zero. It needs to be it has to be zero. Rush also designed his craft with no ability to be saved which is beyond crazy and whole other story in itself. Where are these engineers that worked the titan.. there lots of questions as to why they didnt pick up on the major flaws

[@philrabe910]

Oh My God! Her final words... Never taunt the ocean like that... Oh Man! I wish I had not heard those words.

[@-scorpionox-]

The ocean is not a sentient being. calm down

[@James_Knott]

Didn't this video come out a week or two back? It seems to be word for word with one I already watched.

[@bobjohnson205]

No, I just watched this interview live on MSNBC 2 or 3 days ago.

[@James_Knott]

@@bobjohnson205 It was definitely more than 2-3 days.

[@karlharrelson1091]

Every other news source has already covered this story months ago. MSNBC is just a news dinosaur and reacts like grandpa.

[@josephsonora3787]

I wonder if the company is offering half price tickets now?

[@James_Knott]

For one way trips!

[@josephsonora3787]

@@James_Knott Yikes!

[@Elizabeth-yg2mg]

They went out of business.

[@josephsonora3787]

@@Elizabeth-yg2mg Oh Snaps!

[@stuartgraca]

It is not true to say that only a sphere is suitable for these depths, all the submersibles that have gone deeper than this have a longer shape but are titanium or steel construction. It is more to do with the materials and not the shape, plus this was a business run on low funding and it seems to have avoided tests in order to save money and speed up the point of securing initial paying passengers. I think the French historian had his own commercial interests in the Titanic wreck and he may have felt inclined to keep public interest on the wreck

[@loupgarou-dj3tm]

The overall machine is whatever shape is convenient, but the pressure vessel is always a sphere. Sometimes multiple spheres joined together with collars, but never a cylinder. Submarines have a cylindrical pressure hull, but it has internal framing and no submarine goes anywhere near that deep.

[@KeepingTheFaith123]

As the old phrase goes.."never say never"

[@shari9721]

How can she claim it will never happen again when it was allowed to happen this time ? smdh

[@RadioJosiah]

Because nobody else in the deep sea community is practicing dangerous shortcuts. Because nobody else is going to be stupid enough to try anything like it, considering how infamously and horribly wrong this one turned out.

[@Mububban23]

Stockton Rush was the ego that lead to this entirely predictable disaster. And he got turned into meaty toothpaste. If you can’t be a role model, you can still serve as a warning to others.

[@tuunaes]

Because this will propably wake up law makers to mandate everyone to follow proper engineering at least in western world. Heck, this carbon fiber coffin would have failed even Chinese submersible requirements by not having voice communication to support ship!

[@luisrivera3056]

They basically went to visit the wreck of the Titanic in a clothes dryer...

[@red37i59]

Ive said this before, each missionary specialist paid 250000 to see and get the titanic experience and they got the full titanic experience at the end. I think thats a deal. 😅😅😅

[@eldenringer6466]

It cant happen again because they're all dead :(

[@gshepherd6141]

as long as there are humans alive, things will "happen" again.

[@Laura-LaFauve]

People shouldn't take other people in unsafe ships. Not in any waters. Not even in the Mediterranean.

[@cliveruggles2845]

I guarantee you this disaster will happen again, tinfoil cans as habitats for moon bases and mars!

[@bsing2u]

Never say never.... Some other rich bored person will try to circumvent the rules.

[@chrisdixon7305]

Yawn! This was an unfortunate, predictable and thoroughly preventable incident. The Beirut Explosion was a disaster.

[@chrisprescott2273]

What led us to this moment is conservative anti-regulation thinking and their insatiable egos.

[@James_Knott]

Conservative or not, the government can't regulate what happens in the middle of the ocean. As it is, they weaseled around some regulations by calling passengers "mission specialists".

[@bobjohnson205]

Yep! This is what that kind of thinking gets you!

[@anastasiabeaverhausen8220]

Exactly. Laissez faire trickled down all the way to the bottom of the sea.

[@fredgarvinMP]

And the fact the guy didn't want "grey haired old white men with expertise" working at his startup.

[@chrisprescott2273]

@@fredgarvinMP Ironic since he himself was an old grey haired white man.

[@mayh3094]

You right, it won't happen again because ain't nobody ever going down there again !

[@rogerthat4545]

Who told you that??

[@RadioJosiah]

That isn't true, and should not be true. Nobody else had done it that stupidly before, and nobody will again, because nobody wants to repeat that piece of history. Undersea exploration is an amazing science, when performed competently, like every other submersible that has gone down successfully within the last 50 years.

[@mayh3094]

@@RadioJosiah correct only scientist need to be down below not ordinary citizens!

[@BobConnor-n2g]

Why not send a robot down there and people can see the Titanic on a ship up above in a theatre? That way the people are not in danger. It would cost a lot less, but do make sure even an unmanned robot is certified so hopefully it can come back for service, updates.

[@rogerthat4545]

@@BobConnor-n2g you mean like how James Cameron and a few other people already did?

[@62Cristoforo]

Actually, it did happen before. In the 1890’s a novel was written about the world’s largest ocean liner, being unsinkable, it hits an iceberg south of Newfoundland on a moonless night, and sinks. The name of this ship; the S.S. Titan. The novel is called: Futility

[@siriush100]

They meant that an implosion like this has never happened before and will likely never happen again. Your example is a fictional story that had many similarities to the TITANIC disaster.

[@vinnydeville4675]

Not good answers. Regulated, tested. Why didn’t the company just know better and do better if they did know

[@somerandomguy3807]

Has anyone read the book yet? How is it?

[@trevorsomers8344]

Would've been safer if it was made from desert spoons!

[@Michael-uo4jj]

Oceangate titan all those names sound familiar as the situation it likely will happen again as long as people exist and the will to explore and test the boundaries

[@tiffanyalberti2029]

Stockton: If you want to play it safe then stay in bed and don't even bother to get in your car. Look who's laughing now. I am still alive and you are dead. All that money couldn't buy you brains or common sense.

[@RobertKangchristianunix]

There are some extremely wealthy people who spend a lot of money not because they truly want the item in return for the payments but because they want to brag "Look how much money I have"

[@thorsrensen3162]

There are so many book worms and internet experts who are trying to make themself famous by telling how it all should have been done, even they have not ever made anything themself. The 4-5 guys who went deep down there knew the risk and they did not had the luck that day.

[@luisrivera3056]

All were spared what would have felt like an 18 million pound boulder dropped on top of them...

[@trevorsomers8344]

13200 ft

[@AA-wd2or]

All experts from field know it will happend !

[@DarkShroom]

this is like saying a plane will never crash again, obviously this will happen again, submarine rides are only just becoming viable for the public, you still have to be mega rich

[@Mububban23]

If it was made spherically from titanium this would not have happened. But it was made cylindrically from carbon fibre to maximise passenger space = more money per trip. Shape and materials were both unsuited to the task, thanks to Stockton Rush’s massive ego. The entire industry tried warning him but he thought he knew better. I genuinely don’t think another implosion of a properly built and certified submersible will occur, especially now.

[@KonradTheWizzard]

@@Mububban23 Of course a _properly_ built one is very safe and extremely unlikely to implode. But I fully believe there will be plenty more _improperly_ built ones, because the business opportunity will seem too good to pass. This will need international regulation.

[@BobConnor-n2g]

But she did give 2 good tips for going on a safe underwater trip: Do NOT go into a submersible that is not a sphere and not having a certification.

[@meghan-f9q]

maybe leave the titanic alone

[@1Kent]

A lot of people in the submarine Community knew that submarine was not safe. They said nothing.

[@tuunaes]

Whole deep sea diving community tried to warn him many times, but he ignored those warnings and even threatened with lawyers. And David Lochridge who demanded better design and proper testing and warned authorities was fired and basically extorted by corrupt corporate lawyer with authorities and whistle blower laws failing to sink their claws into that lawyer and OceanGate.

[@StevenELewis-kb8sm]

A lot of experts in the know said a lot to try to convince him it was dangerous. He even fired and sued a person that worked for him that said it showed signs of delamination. Plenty of people tried to stop him but because he operated in international waters ther was no jurisdiction that could have stopped him. He even got around regulations by calling them mission specialists. Meaning on paper they were crew members.

[@anastasiabeaverhausen8220]

Whatever happened to the diving bell?

[@rmp5s]

You can't go anywhere NEAR these depths in a diving bell.

[@cratecruncher4974]

That was a terrible interview. Nothing new, no analysis, nothing on the investigation. Just, "this was a terrible submersible."

[@chrisbender4987]

That's a bold statement. There are a lot of stupid ignorant people out there. It may not happen in our life time but something like this will happen again, sadly.

[@jadeedwards9276]

True because there are a lot of even more stupid people. Like too stupid to make a submarine. But smart enough to make a submarine but still dumb enough to ignore safety warnings is a different category of stupid

[@paceyourself5652]

Duh because they all died?

[@jccarlos2473]

The sub run out of battery n Begening to sink until the the heat the titanic on the batle of the ocean this sub dive over 50 times Not save at all god have mercy

[@antongromek4180]

Oh no, we've lost a bunch of spoild, rich xxx

[@williammiller5575]

Never, say never...

[@bobjohnson205]

Sean Connery found that out! lol

[@sircasm6578]

I highly doubt she addresses how they didn't listen to The experts because they were "old wht guys". 🤣

[@menkros1]

They had instant death

[@marinagarza1803]

“It will never happen again” 😂😂😂 you think so? All it takes is another mad man narcissist billionaire who is obsessed with making submarines 😂

[@Willie-x4u]

I hope Trump in up in the jail that is like the one showen a real jail .

[@DavidJ2222]

Defund welfare

[@rogerthat4545]

That's not a bad idea. Or maybe just eliminate the red Welfare Queen States all together?

[@sharonmassey2923]

Sounds to me like the typically male arrogance/ignorance scenario. "Funny" how both seem to always go hand in hand.

[@winstonsmith6607]

Maybe this is a dumb question... but are Biden's watertrains going to be on the ocean surface or the ocean floor?

[@jackn8458]

Is that something that some maga troll made up?

[@anastasiabeaverhausen8220]

@@jackn8458 He's right tho--it's a dumb question.

[@Irish_Georgia_Girl]

@winstonsmith6607 ~ lol... what, pray tell, are "watertrains"?

[@KomradeKamala]

Will the dummycrats try to indict Trump for it?

[@Trumps-waiving-hair-flap]

No they won’t….Trump is a 🤡and dumb enough to be indicted for his own crimes…which we are all clearly presently witnessing.🤷‍♂️

[@tnbrfller]

Go home Eric, daddy will never love you.

[@YZ250W1]

Maybe if you whine about Hillary that will help.

[@bobjohnson205]

@tessmage_tessera 4 times indicted! He's always the greatest and best! lol

[@RadioJosiah]

Trump needs no bogus indictments. He has brought all of these upon himself by doing legitimate crimes.