Does Hoax Point to Victim Narcissism? | Carlee Russell Case Update and Confession Analysis

[@LaRossaSelvaggia]

Carlee didn’t make a mistake. Overcooking the eggs is a mistake. Carlee wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars, hundreds of hours of people’s time, and triggered untold anxiety and PTSD nationwide. That’s not a mistake; it’s a crime.

[@Ariadne76-k3d]

Exactly!!!!

[@parler8698]

❤

[@shameronstar7220]

A crime is a mistake

[@Kepi_Kei]

@@shameronstar7220 A crime is a choice

[@shameronstar7220]

@@Kepi_Kei A poor choice is a mistake and EVERYONE from your mom to the damn King of England makes them.

[@wolfsta90]

Idk why I find it so annoying and embarrassing that she didn't know an Amber alert would not work for her grown ass.

[@astraluna555]

Yeah I feel vicariously embarrassed when I hear about her bullshit 🙈

[@janetmiller2980]

Yeah Amber Alert for a 25 year old? 😵‍💫🤯

[@i_am_nickid85210]

😅😅😅

[@annahgibbus8]

And she has a bachelors in psychology? My A** LoL 😂

[@dextermorgan1]

It just goes to show how truly out of touch with reality some people are.

[@kathym.9140]

I do not believe that apology came from her or was her idea. She knew that the police were closing in and her attorney used this fake apology letter to make her look sympathetic to the public. I can't believe that they are calling what she did a mistake. She planned this hoax down to every last detail. She needs to be held accountable and I hope the DA does bring charges against her.

[@LindaC616]

In her State, it's a misdemeanor. The maximum fine will be $6,000

[@texasterri2002]

She knew better!

[@pattih7]

Agree, she certainly needs consequences , for all the chaos she caused.

[@Angela-y7p]

@@LindaC616 plus the fines to pay back multiple agencies who used man hours and equipment and they have an option of more than one charge with each charge carrying possible jail time and fines

[@BsTheLadynred]

@@LindaC616 Yeah, but she'll also have to pay restitution.

[@akitalady]

This isn't an apology from Carlee; it's an apology from her sharpie lawyer.

[@aliceangel8768]

EXACTLY!

[@heavenleeangeltalk8471]

💯!!!! Shameful ah

[@darkfate666]

Doesn't even matter. An apology isn't good enough, whoever it's from.

[@heatherlicious8224]

Actually the lawyer didn’t even read it lol

[@JaxonSmithers]

Trying to cover her behind.

[@kmartgoth8313]

If you pulled a fire alarm in school, or called in a bomb threat, etc. you’d get in so much trouble…What Carlee did reminds me of that same kind of behavior. She should be punished

[@cynthiacarter514]

Pulling fire alarm or calling a bomb threat is good example of teenagers thinking it was funny at the time. Carlee is 26 and planned escapade for days before execution.

[@teresawester5770]

You are so right!

[@hollywoodstar6421]

Yeah that so true. She needs to be held accountable.

[@DJRenee]

I agree. Its pretty close to the same thing. And one of those examples given is a FELONY!!

[@andrewbochicchio2232]

Yeah I got accused of a bomb threat probably like I'd say 6 years ago I got kicked out of a private club and then come to find out you get arrested. I never got arrested my house never got searched no one did anything about it except for the club insisted on this until I proved that it never happened the boat I don't know four months ago and they still won't let me back in not that I would go in there but it's stupid when people do these fake things cuz there's like real stuff happening out there that could put a lot of people's lives in Jeopardy. I think like 30 SWAT team members showed up to the place where I was at because of them telling that I did a bomb threat again the police realized it wasn't real

[@davidwilliams7552]

We have a modern epidemic of victim narcissism and it is pathetic.

[@Dr.Pancho.Tortilla]

Well the lady is African and her people are trying their best to fit in civilized societies with difficult rules to understand and follow

[@Ariadne76-k3d]

Yup, and all most people say is "She needs help!" That may be, but she should have consequences. What a stupid ___.

[@cleopatra444]

@@Ariadne76-k3dand God forbids we demand consequences 🙄

[@COD4JESSE]

It really is getting quite bad at this point.

[@willthebeast8002]

You can thank Social Media.

[@cybermandan1960]

The mental health excuse is tired beyond words. Nobody having a psychotic break does this much forward planning. The victims are the public and 911 operators, not her.

[@sngray11]

And all of the agencies, departments, organizations, and volunteers that put themselves in dangerous situations looking for her. She also took away resources from those that legitimately needed help.

[@Juke582]

Yeah just major narcissism!!!

[@pcaviator687]

Carlee needs to serve some jail time as she WASTED taxpayer dollars as well as a lot of people's time and concern. How disgusting and I seriously do not buy her "apology"...sorry.

[@Xcuvon]

I disagree! If she were yt, y’all would be over it already

[@pcaviator687]

@@Xcuvon Huh?

[@RebeccaGreen-jt3qk]

​@@pcaviator687, Just another person wanting to use " black people shouldn't get in trouble,you know because if a black person gets in trouble it's because everyone else is racist. So stupid.

[@tessaducek5601]

No. That's not fair.. Shari Papini is serving time but I believe the restitution is much higher. I don't think Chole Stein has either. She doesn't realize yet the harassment and ostracizing in store. Her and her family will have a very rough time. She needs to pay back every cent.

[@Emolga6274]

@@Xcuvonexactly why isn’t dog park Karen and city bike Karen charged after making false allegations a

[@dicedrice7216]

Did she really apologize? Her attorney probably prepared the apology statement himself after advising her and her parents that it was the correct thing to do. The so-called apology is merely a legal tactic.

[@Liverpool5095]

Exactly. It's just a ploy by the lawyer. She deserves no credit whatsoever.

[@barbaradownie3265]

BINGO

[@Mila-Nova]

Yep this has her lawyer written all over it. Appear remorseful to get reduced sentencing or punishment

[@wholeshebang1]

Yup - *damage control.* It must've irked the police chief to read it, at the behest of her lawyer. I'd have refused to.

[@simonw1313]

Those who comment on crime videos are always predictably certain about people's motivations for doing pretty much anything. And absolutely certain that no one could possibly ever feel remorse or shame about any act they have committed.

[@FindMeOnABeach]

Carlee only came clean because her car was caught on highway cam, which she hadnt counted on. She was told to apologize. She spent the whole weekend before her"confession" partying her a$$ off for her birthday. Her parents raised a spoiled brat. She is heinous!

[@Ariadne76-k3d]

She also hadn't thought about how easy it would be to see her Google searches.

[@gennyolson2257]

Yea, she was pretty dumb.

[@lisasaims3007]

Just not too smart

[@robrob7011]

She is the definition of PRIVILEGED

[@jamesmorgan2064]

And she has the brain of an 11 year old.🎉😂🎉

[@HazyJ28]

Real victims suffer every day because of horrible people like this.

[@A.Watson1980]

Amen.

[@simonw1313]

In what sense?

[@HazyJ28]

@@simonw1313 it desensitizes people to others' problems, thus making them less empathetic. Plus, it makes real victims stories harder to believe.

[@simonw1313]

@@HazyJ28 - if someones empathy level is retarded by freak actions like this then It was probably not that high in the first place. Victims claims credibility, particular in criminal matters, should rise or fall based on the facts and not because folk got pissed off at someone faking victimhood. The problem is that the media tends to focus on these relatively small numbers of freak actions where people fake being abducted, which I doubt are very prevalent, because they are emotionally charged and provoke strong feelings. Too many people seem to have trouble in putting them in perspective.

[@LDiamondz]

​@@HazyJ28 Agreed.

[@oscargustavoarcosruiz8793]

I was the boyfriend of a victim narcissist , it sounds like the title of a horror movie, and when I finished with her I knew exactly what I was losing, it was exactly what I wanted to lose: her. The amount and intensity of damage that a person like this can cause is limitless. They literally do not feel the slightest interest in your life, they immerse you in a continuous narrative of horrors in which they are always the poor victims and you are forced to be their hero, and if you refuse they will destroy you.

[@adriel7229]

Sounds like what I'm in now, maybe not so severe, but I'm "the only good thing he's ever had." (No pressure!) I'm making plans to end it. We live together so it isn't easy.

[@lauratober9275]

Sounds like NARCISSISM to me....... Run like hell. ✌️

[@oscargustavoarcosruiz8793]

@@adriel7229 I don't know your situation, but if it's similar to what I went through, get away as soon as you can.

[@usagiroxie]

I've had to deal with a man like this. They live in a fantasy world, and if you deviate from your made up persona in any way, they will leave, try to bring you back in the fantasy, or worse. They cause a lot of unnecessary damage and even self-sabotage when it comes to relationships. They only care about themselves and their false reality. They're a victim of themselves in the end. What a sad fate best left to them alone.

[@TheDealMaster]

VERY timely, Dr. Grande! All I know is... Sherri Papini was sentenced to 18 months in prison. In fact, I think she is there right now, this moment. She was also fined $300,000. Although Carlee's case is no Papini, she still wasted a lot of police resources, among other things. She probably needs some kind of consequence. If nothing else, she needs to pay back the $63,000 the public donated to help assist in her search.

[@LindaC616]

The money that was raised for Crime Stoppers will stay with Crime Stoppers. The maximum fine for this in her state is $6,000. It's a misdemeanor. Smile us attorney just spoke about all of this a few moments ago

[@melistasy]

I agree! She needs serious consequences

[@koolaidgadfly5132]

Totally agree. She needs consequences. After her Mental Health Care treatment. Because don't we all learn consequences from the time we are toddlers? Maybe she didn't. Well now she should. But first she needs to be mentally well enough to understand those consequences. If she is not? Treatment first, then repayment.

[@Bess9779]

She came home sooner with less self-inflicted wounds, but other than that, she pretty much did the same thing. I didn't realize it until I read your post.

[@koolaidgadfly5132]

@@Bess9779 She kept wasting the police's time with several interviews. Carlee, perhaps under advice of counsel, or her own sense of self-preservation kicking back in, did not do this.

[@11UncleBooker22]

She made false statements that placed large numbers of people in harm's way. From volunteers involved in searching poisonous snake laden rough terrain, to possible victims of revengeful groups or individuals seeking to place vigilantly justice on citizens with the appearance of her supposed captures. Then there's the cost to the taxpayers for human resource hours used searching for her. She's a spoiled woman-child without a sense of accountability.

[@tinawindham6958]

Make her go out in that same area in 100 degree weather and clean up the area. No help, no snacks, no wig.

[@lindaperrine680]

I like that idea

[@UnauthorizedComedy]

This!

[@UnauthorizedComedy]

@@tinawindham6958FULL WIG those are hot as fire

[@eva1480]

​@@tinawindham6958😂😂😂yes

[@ms_ga_cali1613]

My momma would have kicked my ssa for doing something like this to everyone! She needs to be held accountable, as well a receive help. Someone from her area said they went high school together, and this is not her first time doing something like this, she’s always been known for seeking attention in the worst way(allegedly). 🤦🏽‍♀️ This is not a normal mindset. I know plenty of adults that leave without a trace, and return, just so they can break away from any stress. They leave, and don’t tell anyone anything. They just go off the grid for a few days. But this?? 😮 she went too far! She has parents and people who really care about her, and she is willingly breaking people’s hearts. She is in the wrong..

[@jopalolive]

I think you have gotten to the crux of the matter, she simultaneously needs help and accountability. Her lack of awareness seems to be at the level of a four year old, so teaching and patience are called for, but she is an adult who entered the public international attention, so severe punishment is warranted to dissuade copycat criminality. We have limited resources that need to be focused on real problems. Carlee brings to mind a larger metaphoric dilemma.

[@ebunny5]

She should be booed every time she steps out in public...no shame.

[@Rhonda_Maldonado_61824]

😂 This is the best comment here!

[@lilymunster7132]

Yes. 😼 Bring back public shaming

[@meagain6008]

IMO...I don't think she should go to jail persay. If I were an Alabaman...I'd VOTE she be ordered to 600 yards of clean up (on foot) along 459 with a WHOLE red-headed baby doll strapped to her back!!! With a sign that reads : I'M SORRY. - CAR"LIE"

[@lorenapaniagua1271]

Yes if anyone sees her it would of been diffrent if her ass came an apologize in person and take responsibility

[@Saintsand_sinners]

What period of time or duration would you recommend this booing on sight to last ?

[@theprophetictype36]

I guess when the mom said Carlee was fighting for her life, she really meant, she was fighting for her lies.🙄😒

[@jenanne31]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ChevyCoolLady]

Nailed it!

[@parler8698]

😂

[@tonyducks1121]

Carlee lied and Jesus died!!

[@sergeipohkerova7211]

She wanted that free money and an easy life forever with no work, just payday every day. Pathetic.

[@sydneyfairbairn3773]

She had a good attorney who told her to stop wasting everybody's time. Hence, the apology.

[@nottooherbal]

YEs good advice well taken.

[@Scoobylover79]

I wonder how many man hours were waisted by her hoax.?

[@kateashby3066]

What’s shocking tho, is that she actually listened. The narcissist does not ever want to admit defeat. We saw that with Sheri Papini and Jussie Smolette. Also- Sarah Boone! It only will Sarah not admit to any wrongdoing when she recorded herself torturing and killing her bf, but she’s gone through 6 or 7 lawyers now and is currently whining to the judge via 20 page handwritten letters about how unfair it is that her free lawyer doesn’t wanna talk to her all the time. These types almost never take good advice or concede. So I’m utterly shocked that this newest case did exactly that. Perhaps mom and dad forced her to if she wanted them to pay her lawyer fee. I don’t know but there’s nothing authentic about an apology that comes only because you got caught being deceitful.

[@gracejohnson2186]

Carlee needs to face the camera and make an apology, not through her lawyer.

[@nottooherbal]

@@gracejohnson2186 that’d be a sensible idea.

[@NOREMAC007]

Sadly, there are huge incentives these days to be a victim. Especially when it comes to faking hate crimes. Attention, fame, sympathy, and most of all, MONEY from GoFundMe campaigns. It’s sickening.

[@Luke91633]

What go fund me campaigns ?

[@shanghaichica]

She didn’t say it was a hate crime

[@NOREMAC007]

@@shanghaichica she claimed a white guy kidnapped her. She brought race into it because she wanted to be seen as a victim of a hate crime. (Because being a victim of a hate crime is all the rage these days!) If she didn’t want to be seen like that, she wouldn’t have brought race into it.

[@Daysleeper1000]

​@@shanghaichicaa white person was accused. A white baby was apparently the "bait" ...

[@shanghaichica]

@@NOREMAC007 so was Casey Anthony committing a hate crime when she said the nanny was Hispanic? The Nanny who didn’t even exist.

[@ijfsfv7439]

Since she's capable of telling such an outrageous story about herself, imagine the lies she's probably said about other people and situations.The classic trouble maker type.

[@5p674]

I think that "by addressing her issues" she means things like planning her birthday party.

[@melstiller8561]

The only mistake she made was thinking that her selfish, dishonest and manipulative actions would be readily accepted.

[@Kknightstar]

In 1926, Agatha Christie disappeared herself for 11 days. Everyone was certain she offed herself, I do not understand why people do this except to punish those they feel have harmed them. It’s strange and incredibly passive aggressive

[@irenek2k20]

2nd hand confession- coward to do her own message of her lies.

[@lorettaprice8167]

3rd hand confession--read by chief of police via attorney.

[@heatherlicious8224]

That’s what I said even her attorney didn’t read it lol

[@TheQueensWish]

It’s going to be tough for her to rebuild her life after this. Society isn’t very forgiving. How many have forgiven Casey Anthony for faking the story of her daughters disappearance and then standing trial for her murder? How many have forgiven OJ or Cosby or Pappini or Scott Petersen or Chris Watts? So many liars.

[@mjanny6330]

OJ and Cosby were immediately forgiven lol. OJ even made money from a book he wrote, bragging about getting away with his crimes.

[@Brendawallingbear]

Carlee didn't kill anyone.

[@malloryknox6802]

​@@BrendawallingbearCasey Anthony tried to claim her daughter was kidnapped by a nanny, see the resemblance?

[@koolaidgadfly5132]

Hey, she didn't kill anybody. Although she did make it feel dangerous for anybody who might try to help a child in a public space. So that could have gotten somebody killed. She needs consequences, but if this is all that is going on with her? I hope it's not the rest of her life. If there is no help or someone like this? Then what is wrong with our Mental Health Care system?

[@Ariadne76-k3d]

They shouldn't be forgiving. She chose to do this, and that's her problem.

[@davidwilliams7552]

People like this are a danger to everyone around them and should be setiously punished.

[@martyal]

I’m just glad she didn’t make up some story that involved someone else. If she had thrown somebody’s name out there I can’t imagine the scrutiny that person would’ve suffered.

[@ceasarromero3438]

What's dangerous is how naive and gullible the masses are.

[@wholeshebang1]

@ceasarromero3438 - The *911 dispatch, police* and other *first responders* assigned to this bogus "kidnapping" weren't gullible or naïve - they _did their jobs_ as they should.

[@mjanny6330]

It's crazy that no one is mentioning the fact that she was willing to sacrifice some innocent "white man with orange hair" just for a little victimhood clout.

[@l-train7876]

What description would have been more appropriate? Should she have described a fake kidnapper as black or Asian? Like that would have made *any difference* ?

[@sarahmcdonald9624]

@@l-train7876e the better question is why would she choose a white person rather than just saying she didn’t see anyone? Because she wanted to demonize one type of person.

[@wilhelmhagberg4897]

It was a made up character so no one was sacrificed.

[@casewojo6186]

Because white peoples are oppressed right now. Her mentioning the man was white just breeds more attention.

[@iancaen2977]

Yeah, but Trump was busy, so no one believed her.

[@haleytruslow7200]

“The narcissist believes their feeling represent an emotional emergency.” SO TRUE. My mom has NPD and she literally texted me “911 call me” and I frantically called and it was just something she wanted… there was no actual emergency. Ugh. You are describing it so perfectly

[@rinagrey2478]

Yeah Sherri Papini apologized through her attorney as well. She also has not paid a cent of the $127,000 people donated to her .

[@marelinem541]

"Yeah Sherri Papini apologized through her attorney as well. She also has not paid a cent of the $127,000 people donated to her." Maybe we need a modified version of debtors prison ... You can go to work, but weekends (and/or nights) will be spent in jail until every last penny is repaid to the people that were scammed out of money by your lies. And in cases like Sherri Papini's & Carlee Russell's all expenses of law enforce wasted on them should be included in that debt.

[@TentinQuarantino_]

They should have to do really unpleasant work to earn their money too. Sweatshop labor, scrubbing slaughterhouse floors, skimming the scum off sewage treatment pools, etc.

[@punky19761]

Her apology would have been a little bit more genuine if she had made it herself, not with an attorney in place of her.

[@annahgibbus8]

I agree, but she can't say anything publicly until this is over. "Anything you say or do WILL be held against you" For some reason an Attorney can speak & have things not held against him or the client, but the client can't. The attorney is supposed to be speaking to the police today. This isn't over & hopefully she is held fully accountable. There is a possibility only a possibility her parents can be charged with aiding & abetting I heard on an Attorneys channel.

[@globes179]

Yeah, paying a lawyer read (and probably write) a statement is not an apology.

[@sngray11]

And the attorney didn’t even read the statement, he emailed it to LE to have it read at a press conference! smdh.

[@dyates6380]

The attorney didn't even make a statement. He sent the statement to the police chief who read it. LOL. Even her lawyer is embarrassed.

[@ninachkah13]

Dr G... you are on top of these cases and I will speak for myself, and likely many of us as well, to say thank you for your diligence and hard work... and most importantly, your educated and intuitive commentary

[@catherinecarmichael3180]

I so agree! I am learning so much from following him. Plus, to me they are the right length and spoken so well.

[@i_am_nickid85210]

💯🎯

[@anonymousstrangeness7348]

@ninachka13 - Your comment is very well said !! ..I totally agree with you ☺👍

[@anonymousstrangeness7348]

@@catherinecarmichael3180 - I totally agree and your comment is very well said 👍☺

[@marleyfehr9324]

Your even tone and delivery and the way every one of your videos follows a similar format makes them so calming. I listen to you when I feel anxious and it really helps

[@LindaC616]

But you have to listen closely for the zingers 🙂

[@dallasstudent1605]

@@LindaC616 They are the best!

[@susanfisher4944]

His voice calms me also.

[@LindaC616]

@dallasstudent1605 the shade is subtle but mighty! 😄

[@BadgerMonkey]

He’s getting better, but his Old Stuff, with The pauses at The weirdest times, almost made me Stop Watching him.

[@terrystokes2948]

"People who are separated know exactly what they've lost.. (pause)... this is why they are separated." The way you delivered that line would have made Jessie Smollet proud! LOL! 😂

[@zenawarrior7442]

She's terrible to lie like this & then try to be a victim. Great update & excellent narcissist points. Thanks Dr G😊💜💚

[@SussexSandra]

As a British person who watched this case, I want to state how impressed i was with how Hoover Police department responded to this case. They were fantastic. Such a huge shame that time, skills & effort was wasted on this spoilt narcissistic girl

[@dextermorgan1]

The need to make her pay back every penny she cost tax payers. There's absolutely no excuse for this. The resources they wasted on her could have went to finding an ACTUAL missing person.

[@sngray11]

And the $63k raised on GoFundMe.

[@Dit1160]

Do you ever want her to be your nurse? Don’t worry no board of nursing in the USA will allow her to write her boards.

[@Scoobylover79]

I think that she is going to claim mental health issues are to blame. Thank you Dr. Grande for your in depth straight to the point analysis.

[@annahgibbus8]

It's premeditated mental illness won't work.

[@MortgageGirl7]

I think your right. Because the attorney gave a short statement after the meeting with the police. He was victimizing her. SMH

[@simonw1313]

Maybe they are - Maybe they aren't.

[@francescawilliams8177]

She did not even come out to apologize in person to the whole world for mocking the actual missing women. She has single handedly (add Smollet and Sherri Papini) made everyone question in future if a distress call is someone crying wolf and she has gotten away with lying to Law enforcement. She's a narcissist and a psychopath at this point. Zero remorse.

[@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139]

If you're questioning the validity of distress calls bc a few people in history lied, then you are part of the problem.

[@TheMattTrakker]

@@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139 Cool story, enabler.

[@woodworkingandepoxy643]

Especially since Sherri papini doing what she did caused a woman to be kidnapped and raped repeatedly by a dude and then be ridiculed when she was eventually let go and her and her boyfriend were made to look like they planned a fake kidnapping due to cops thinking that was the case. These people will just cause that to happen further for people who legitimately need help

[@hymnodyhands]

​​@@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139Well said. Thousands of women go missing per year... it's July and we have one fake. Everyone is not going to question that big of a reality over one fake. Not everyone gave Carlee that much power in our lives anyway ...

[@woodworkingandepoxy643]

Crazy too seeing her ex's speak out saying she does this kind of stuff when a relationship is ending because they find out she is legitimately crazy. I wouldn't want her as my nurse or even a nurse for my worst enemy

[@darthlaurel]

She's not a victim narcissist. She calmly plotted this out, researched it, stole money, a robe, tp for some strange reason, bought snacks and drinks, made sure someone was on the phone with her so she could scream. Later she walked to her home calmly and then put on a show when she got close. It wasn't some kind of breakaway in the moment. I experienced that this weekend with a runaway who bolted in a moment of existential crisis. This kid had no snacks and no plan. Carlee had both and there is more 60+k sitting in a gofundme for her. A LOT of people are praying that she'll be prosecuted, so yeah.....they are praying for her.

[@wholeshebang1]

Hallelujah! PTL! (I'm atheist.) 😂

[@ArcFixer]

Hi Darth. The behavior you describe is textbook victim narcissist behavior. A victim narcissist is not a victim who is also a narcissist. Victim narcissism is a type of narcissism which is expressed by playing the victim. Carlee's planned and deliberate scheme to wrap her ego in the cloak of a victim is a perfect example of victim narcissist behavior. Cheers

[@darthlaurel]

@@ArcFixer Thanks. I didn't feel like that was very clear in Dr. Grande's description of it. Maybe I didn't listen carefully enough.

[@sofiar3176]

This is literally so embarrassing. I’m 24 and just picturing myself doing this is so beyond embarrassing I don’t understand how someone can be this way I would be so mortified. She’s so cringe

[@dlc5166]

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE BUT NOT UNTIL IT'S DONE WITH YOU. As soon as I read her apology (via her attorney), my mind instantly went to "damage control." Her "non-presence" is a shield against more negative press until penalties are decided upon. I think she'll be able to straighten the road ahead of her over time by being open and honest (to herself and others) about her actions.

[@sharmanszkody1177]

Dr. Grande's analysis was very informative. In Texas, we have a group named Texas Equusearch and Recovery. They never charge for their services to try to locate missing persons. Director Tim Miller stated that he is very concerned about fewer people showing up to help find a missing person in the shadow of false reports of missing persons.

[@marelinem541]

I can see that could really become a problem, and a problem that may cost someone their life.

[@VeeLondon1449]

Thanks, Dr Grande. The police investigating, have handled this case with a phenomenal level of patience and grace, towards Carlee.

[@ronaldslater4703]

Dr. Grande is becoming the KZbin Master of the Low-key Shade. 😂 I love your videos!!! Keep up the good work! 👍

[@MrAllysonn]

Even, if she got mental health issue she should apologize publicly and should held accountable for her hoax. Would like to see all of Google research!

[@LindaC616]

Smollett's attorney just spoke out about it. In her state, the max fine would be $6,000, since it's a misdemeanor

[@MichaelGarland]

Smollett would have been proud of this level of stupidity.

[@heatherlicious8224]

Her lost job can press charges for stealing

[@Ariadne76-k3d]

I think her main issue is that she is spoiled and selfish

[@wilhelmhagberg4897]

@Joelswinger34 Nope. You don’t create a crazy situation like this because you’re ”spoiled”. Def. mental health issues.

[@MakerInMotion]

That would be really weird if an Amber Alert had a fee. "We're diligently searching for your missing child, here's your bill we take Visa, MasterCard, or cashier's check."

[@carweee]

its difficult to fully grasp the positive benefits one perceives to occur after committing a crime like this, as other comparable stories have always flopped terribly. your analysis always helps me appreciate ones thoughts behind ones behaviors. thank you Dr Grande!!

[@jakeviolet2195]

She probably never heard about the other stories. She strikes me as the kind of person that spends more time taking selfies than reading the news.

[@mjanny6330]

Pity + media coverage + protected class status = big paycheck on gofundme & the ability to scream others into submission with "Y'all don't understand!"

[@criticalthought5698]

@@mjanny6330 Exactly!

[@the_mrs]

I once had narcissist friend who pretended to leave his phone in a store. He had a “random stranger” find it and call me because I was a recent number called. When I attempted desperately to contact his family members to get his phone back to him, he accused me of stalking him and being crazy. He got to play the victim while gaslighting me. It’s a typical clinical narcissism ploy to do these kinds of things.

[@louise2467]

No friend.

[@lisasim]

Glad for you that it's "once" and I hope you were truly able to move on. These people are just unbelievable and they never change! After dealing with a couple of these types, I can recognize them much quicker and run away as soon as I can.

[@aFreakingAmerican]

The fact that she's a "nursing" student and poses for pictures in a doctor's coat speaks volumes...!

[@lauriediorio574]

Nurses wear lab coats in school.

[@aFreakingAmerican]

@@lauriediorio574 no they don't.. you're lying.

[@martinwhite418]

​@@lauriediorio574She isn't a nurse. She is an idiot. What do idiots wear?

[@queenbeemo42]

Individual hospitals and the schools they work with have a set standard of dress for each student and professional. It helps the regular employees recognize someone’s position immediately.

[@martinwhite418]

@queenbeemo42 What outfit do they give someone like Carlee to make sure that everyone knows she is an idiot?

[@rudymarie9361]

I’ve been waiting for you to update us on this mess! I’ve been a subscriber for many years and you’re one of my favorite KZbinrs!!! Much Love! 🖤🖤🖤

[@Lisa-iz7fr]

I think you nailed it Dr Grande, it was to bring attention to her boyfriend. There was a facebook post from someone who knew her stating Carlee had mentioned about things not going well for her something along those lines. Regardless of the circumstances I think she should be held accountable for her actions and I do mean prison.

[@nottooherbal]

Toddler seems an apt description of herself and her toddler like behaviour.

[@carolynthornton8017]

IN MY VIEW Your analysis of Carlee Russell is on timely and clearly explained.

[@roadrunner9622]

His description of a Victim Narcissist starting at 7:26 fits a huge swath of today's society.

[@annalisegiovanni7032]

Hey Dr. Grande😃🥰🤩 Thank you for the new video! There's so many channels covering this case. However, there's not a single person BESIDES YOU that I've been wanting to hear their thoughts & opinions about this case! Your intelligence & your humor is an absolute PERFECT MIXTURE OF BOTH! They broke the mold when they made you! You're very special, Dr. Grande🙏🥰

[@terrystokes2948]

They definitely broke the mold when they made Dr Grande - Fair, Balanced and Funny

[@Dr.Pancho.Tortilla]

Dr. Grande being gay has a kindness and sensitivity that certainly lack in heterosexual males.

[@marcielizabeth7425]

​@@Dr.Pancho.TortillaHe has a wife!

[@Dr.Pancho.Tortilla]

@@marcielizabeth7425 the "wife" is only a disguise strategy.

[@wholeshebang1]

@"Dr."Pancho.Tortilla - Plenty of men, *regardless of their sexual orientation,* possess _kindness_ and _sensitivity,_ and many more similar *human traits,* especially boys being raised these days, by parents with more awareness of the benefits of boys expressing their more _vulnerable feelings_ instead of _suppressing them_ or being encouraged to be "macho."

[@eardrummed]

Whenever I have to drive lonely highways at night I always have terrible anxiety about encountering something bizarre. This case triggered me so much.

[@wholeshebang1]

I'm sorry to hear that. Loud, abrupt *noises,* and *men bellowing,* do that to me - a lingering side-effect of *C-PTSD.* This is what some people have commented about as one of the negative things this young woman's *kidnapping hoax* caused in others who've had something similar happen to them or a child in their family or personal circle.

[@aganeko]

I love you, Dr. Grande! Your videos are so funny, informative, and interesting. Also, I love the Cactus decor

[@elizabethhamm5320]

I’m glad that she has not doubled down. It is an important first step. She should get mental health help and reimburse the state and FBI. That way she will gain much needed insight and be held accountable. Thanks again another informative and entertaining video

[@LindaC616]

In her State, it's a misdemeanor, and the maximum fine will be $6,000

[@elizabethhamm5320]

I’m not a lawyer but I hope that they can go after her civilly or work out a deal. Perhaps deferred prosecution if she pays back. If she doesn’t pay the full amount then hopefully at least some of it along with performing thousands of hours of community service. She needs to realize what a big deal it is that she wasted so many valuable resources

[@capitalkayproductions]

She should come out and look people in the eye to apologize, those closest to her and the community that came together for her

[@kingcosworth2643]

Not going to happen

[@simonw1313]

That would be nice but I suspect she wants to be swallowed up by the earth, or actually abducted.

[@deloradeabel8487]

It sounds like your analogy of the victim naracist is spot on with Carlee! Vey well said Dr. Todd!

[@juliedahl1892]

Accountability, & counseling, therapy.

[@iafdof1377]

Met a person like that once. Very insidious. They'll act like all normal and friendly up to the very moment they stab you in the back, for "all the right reasons", of course. These sick people are right next to us every day, but you never know until it's too late.

[@marelinem541]

I had an older sibling with Narcissistic Personality Disorder (made life hell for most everyone in the family) so I've read about the subject a lot. They used to think 2 to 3% of the population were NPD. I don't know if it's on the rise or they just have better diagnostics, but the latest figure I read is possibly as much as 15% of the population. [Though the most authoritative figure I've read for Narcissistic Personality Disorder is from a book by Julie L. Hall of 7.7 % among men and 4.8% for women, for a combined total of 6.2%. (source: 'Journal of Clinical Psychiatry' - July 31, 2008.)] Even if it is 'just' 6.2% most of us will have our lives destroyed by one of these 'harmless looking monsters' at some point. I recommend everyone do some reading on the subject to help you recognize NPD persons. 'The Narcissist in Your Life' by Julie L. Hall is the most recent I've read, and seems about as good as any and a bit better than some.

[@Honeybee-cy9gc]

Bingo!

[@conmanumber1]

Hello Doctor, Greetings from Oamaru Sth island New Zealand. We have a case of a African couple here by name of Dickason. Husband is a Timaru Doctor. Last year his wife killed their 3 daughters. Can U do a study on this please?. Her name is Lauren Dickason, Graham Dickason is father . Cheers..love your analysis.

[@btetschner]

She should certainly be charged for a crime, and also charged for expenses that were used to perpetuate the hoax. At least she admitted to it so it no longer is an open issue, something that is uncommon for people that perpetuate hoaxes. Very helpful explanation and examples of things a victim narcissist would do, it makes it much easier to understand the disorder.

[@elliebellie7816]

This reminds me of the Runaway Bride (probably before you were born). A woman in Georgia left for a "jog", then went missing. Turns out she was on a bus ride to New Mexico to avoid her upcoming wedding. She later tried to blame some Hispanics in a van for kidnapping her (this was way before Sherri Pappini). The Runaway Bride was charged in some way for this and ended up doing months of community service.

[@Walgreens27richmond]

I remember that

[@steveskipper6473]

There is a element to this story which the good doctor has wisely stayed away from and explains why this relatively local story has become so news worthy.

[@Wellwater52]

It seems that we are all born with narcissistic traits and continue to have them throughout childhood. Some people outgrow them sooner than others. It also seems that it is common these days that some people don’t EVER outgrow narcissistic behavior.

[@burgerking5223]

Lol, was waiting for this video since hearing her lawyer read out that statement. Dr. Grande is quick and consistent

[@wholeshebang1]

Carlee's lawyer didn't read it (though he probably *wrote* it). The *police chief* did, so it's an _apology twice-removed_ from her and _any responsibility on _*_her_*_ part._ I'll bet the police chief was irked at having to do that. I would've refused.

[@burgerking5223]

@@wholeshebang1 ahhh thank you! I definitely confused the two. Definitely agree though, very uncomfortable way of providing the confession.

[@Kathy-bc5yq]

I was surprised by her apology as well. I think she will claim mental health issues whether she has any or not. She’s been shamed a lot online, and she will want to have an excuse that people may sympathize with. She definitely needed attention, and I have a feeling this does have something to do with a lover. Excellent analysis as always!

[@Scoobylover79]

I completely agree with you. She's definitely going to claim "mental health issues"

[@koolaidgadfly5132]

Straight from the get-go, as soon as this started to look suspicious, I thought she needed mental health care. Whatever may be available for her. The reason is, she didn't rob a bank and try to get away with a bunch of money that she didn't have. She didn't do anything logical. She didn't do anything age appropriate, either. She didn't do anything that you were expect somebody with her education level would do. So what else could it be, if not a mental health issue? If there is no help for that mental health issue, then there needs to be. Or else, are we watching this channel to demonize and wish punishment upon people who are mentally ill?

[@BsTheLadynred]

You can't just claim you have a mental issue. She would have to prove it for one, and also prove this has been an ongoing mental issue. Her charges are only misdemeanors and she doesn't have any record so she most likely won't do time. And even if she did the penalty is 1 year in jail max. If she claims a mental illness that will just make more problems for her because then she has to prove there's a history of that and she was experiencing this at the time.

[@BsTheLadynred]

@@koolaidgadfly5132 Actually like I said below, she can only claim a mental illness if she has a history of it. You also have to prove then that at the time you were suffering from that mental illness. You can't just claim that's why you did it. You have to also prove you have a mental illness.

[@koolaidgadfly5132]

@@BsTheLadynred No, she cannot just blame it on mental health issues. She will have to be tested. But putting somebody with severe mental health issues in jail is just asking for more mental health issues. But from the beginning I thought the police were dancing around it and not charging her immediately because she probably has suicidal ideations and bought her little snacks and booked a hotel because she was going off to commit suicide somewhere. After eating her Cheezits, which makes me think it's suicidal ideation, not a real suicide attempt. Either way, that is a mental illness indicator, especially since some people who have suicidal ideation do go on to commit suicide. Wouldn't it be a shame if she doesn't get the help she needs, and if she had, she would have gone on to save hundreds of lives as a nurse?

[@meagain6008]

👀...I was SO caught up in the NARCISSIST EXPLANATION...I forgot why I even clicked on this in the first place!!! LEARNED A LOT!!!! Good job, My Friend!!! Thank you for sharing this light. ❤️

[@xPROGNOSISx]

I enjoy your takes on everything! Couldn’t click fast enough!

[@incrediblylucid4914]

Forever a fan of Dr. Grande! What bothers me the most about these cases, is those who have actual missing loved one’s getting involved. I empathize with mental health issues, but this I can’t wrap my mind around.

[@birdworldist]

Yes king go off

[@Xcuvon]

King?? Of whom?

[@punky19761]

@@Xcuvon It’s just an expression. It’s not that serious.

[@birdworldist]

@@Xcuvon king of this KZbin channel :-)

[@calico-kat-mom6204]

Dr. gee what a fabulous reaction to this debacle with Carlee Russell, she cannot control The public's reaction to her hoax, I'm not sure that she'll have a peaceful life in the near future, whatever insecurities she has she's opened a wound for the world to poke at her wounded mental state. She will have to deal with the consequences, in the consequences are not in her hands.

[@micheleh2k]

Dr. Grande, I love your dry humor! Some cases are so outlandish, such as this one, that it's hard to think they are real. Truth is certainly stranger than fiction at times. Thank you for your insightful analyses! In this particular case, I don't think the public will be satisfied until Carlee herself shows her face and says she's sorry, but I also don't think she really is anyway . A narcissist never is.

[@NativeIntelligenceCheckMyDJmix]

A little jail time is in order, just enough to scare the crap out of her and for her to learn her lesson....4 days in Los Angeles jail certainly straightened me up after my past "mistake" All I can say , is in a world with so much evil, we don't need any fakers wasting the police's time. The city should definitely press charges.

[@sylvain123]

Thankyou for this video Dr Grande! I finally understand what a vulnerable narcissist is thanks to your explanation. I find it confusing figuring the different types out.

[@genxena23]

This case brings to my mind, The Runaway Bride that happened in the late 90s, early 2000s. I really enjoy your brief analysis!

[@chewygal69]

As usual I find your analysis to quite accurate Dr. Grande.

[@griminator-patty3901]

Thank you! I found it interesting that you were surprised she apologized. Your comments help a lot!

[@thecatatemyhomework]

How could she not have had help? How did she get away from the highway? She probably went through the bushes and on the other side, where the houses are, someone must have been waiting for her in a car. The police got there four and a half minutes after her phone call. She couldn't have disappeared on her own. As far as apologizing, if she didn't have an attorney she would never have apologized. He obviously told her that would be the best thing for her to do, so she said okay. It's really the attorney apologizing for her. She's a grown woman, not a teenager, which she is acting like.

[@pele914]

Thanks for providing an educated framework to view this. This situation has a lot of similarities to the young lady that killed the married couple on the golf cart psychologically. That girl just wanted that situation to just 'go away' too. No remorse or recognition of their role

[@laylam4241]

She’s famous now and that’s probably all she cares about. She’s thinking, “I’m so important.” She got exactly what she wanted

[@marelinem541]

Now law enforcement need to make sure she pays for it. 😄

[@lucius4556]

Yes I think that was her motif, to get noticed and get some modelling or brand contracts!

[@lucius4556]

@studyhardplayhard5086 Yes, very calculated !

[@StarCrunchy]

Before I even watch the video, I would like to let you know, that your title is on fire. 100% fantastic

[@seanrodgers7327]

One time, please say “I’m not speculating this time. She did this shit fer real”

[@oceancat0450]

😂

[@LindaC616]

😅

[@tmajcan94]

Thank you for the update on this case Dr. Grande. Hopefully she can get any and all help she needs. Her apology is a start and hopefully police can piece together what happened when she disappeared. I know she had planned this out just going off the Google searches. Another fine piece of analysis doc.

[@thecatatemyhomework]

Exactly what kind of help are you referring? She doesn't need help. She needs a jail term.

[@marelinem541]

@@thecatatemyhomework "She doesn't need help. She needs a jail term." Hopefully, she'll get a therapist while in jail and release on parole might be contingent upon her therapist recommendation.

[@kenya1067]

As a person of faith, I'm wondering why she wants our prayers, she doesn't know the types of lunatics she's upset with this stunt, or what sort of negative thoughts they may be directing towards her. The sympathetic prayers are all done, from most people. My prayers now are that she speaks the truth every time she decides to talk.

[@ninaninapasadena5687]

A few days before Carlee enacted her hoax, she had a verbal spat with an exotic dancer whom her (ex?) boyfriend was currently seeing. I’m not sure if this was a new relationship or if he cheated on Carlee with this woman. However, the message that Carlee sent to the dancer went something like this… (Im paraphrasing here) “Why would he want you over me? Im classy, you’re trashy. Im beautiful, you’re ugly. Im a nurse, you’re a dancer. Im educated, you’re a fool. I have a good family, you come from the bottom of the barrel” Welp, it’s not difficult to see that the dancer is getting the last laugh here as Carlee has managed to make an incredible fool of herself and will probably never live this down. She really embarrassed herself and her family. I don’t think she ever expected to receive so much media attention and generate nation wide interest in her disappearance. I can’t image she doesn’t feel very embarrassed at the least over this whole ploy for attention. I feel badly for the girl. She made a really foolish decision and will pay a hefty price for it.

[@jcoffeycup]

It's hard to believe someone didn't help her. Can't picture her roughing it in the woods.

[@dawndraper9371]

That's what I was thinking too.

[@sardonicus76]

“On the second day of my self imposed exile, I was becoming increasingly anxious. My situation was deteriorating rapidly and I knew that unless I took immediate action, I might not be able to survive. The clock was ticking. So, I immediately set about fashioning a rudimentary hair weave, using the only materials available to me in that vast, unforgiving wilderness. After gathering several strands of Spanish moss, a few handfuls of pine needles and some fresh mud from a creek bank, I was back in business. I could finally relax, confident in the knowledge that soon, I’d be slaying like a true queen, again.” -C. Russell

[@Will-Parr]

This is an excellent analysis. It describes about half the videos I see these days. Be as outrageous as possible, claim victim hood, and call others r…..

[@AlphaDeltaBravo-t8j]

Narcissistic personality disorder! She wanted attention and more attention! That’s it! All about her! Smh! Wasted money and time for nothing. All the while there are real people missing and need help! Society is on a downward spiral!

[@KatSpade1018]

WoW! Thank You Dr. G! Fantastic analysis. I really appreciate how each time you do an analysis of this situation, as new details emerge, that you are very clear and straight forward with the point you're trying to make. No one can accuse you of being unfair or mean as you are just stating your professional and popular opinion and at the same time you don't sugar coat the reality. You point out the wrongs and what would be an expectation of making things right yet that isn't the chosen path. I also appreciate that as a clinician, you do not blame what she did on some kind of mental illness and her the victim. More like an issue with personality as well as character and you advocate for her accountability. Thank you so much! You're awesome❤

[@whosaidthat9265]

The fact that a mother of an abducted & murdered child aided her parents breaks my heart. Word on the street is her ridiculously enabling family threw her a birthday party upon her return even after finding out she lied. There are some weird dynamics going on there

[@UnauthorizedComedy]

They were likely all in on it

[@phyllysanantonio]

I read that they were excited about the 60k in the go fund account. The boyfriend was in on it , too.

[@whosaidthat9265]

@@phyllysanantoniolock ALL of them up if they touch one cent of that money. I almost hope they did so they can add grand larceny to the charges. Absolutely atrocious

[@phyllysanantonio]

@@whosaidthat9265 agree!!!!

[@shanghaichica]

Shall we just extend it to the whole community and put them on death row.

[@AnimalLover-dw2wu]

You nailed it Dr. Grande ⭐️

[@christinestryker784]

I think that her "apology" is just another manipulation because she was caught, and wants to get out of actual trouble!

[@Liverpool5095]

100% It's just a ploy by the lawyer. Her lawyer wrote out that so called apology and convinced her and her parents to sign off on it. She deserves no credit whatsoever.

[@briarelyse5136]

It's giving influencer apology video. 🤢

[@SimmyKenz]

Doctor Grande: the #1 channel for true crime fans who like word play, alliteration, and the absolute deadest pan delivery on this platform

[@es9947]

Carlee says that she did this alone. I don't see how this is possible. Someone must have housed and driven her. My guess is that she is protecting someone, an accomplice.

[@doylerember9215]

Dr. Grande - spot on and well said. Carlee made more than a mistake - she committed a crime for which she should suffer consequences - consequences which hopefully will serve as a deterrent to others thinking of doing the same thing. I've noticed the theme to down play the seriousness of the crimes she committed to be solved and remedied by just "dealing with her issues." In other words, it's time to put this horrible situation behind us! I hope this will give her pause to reflect on how to navigate her life in a better way.

[@brandnew9834]

This woman bothers me a lot. This whole story pisses me off. As a black man in America, this story gets under my skin be she has screwed so many black women who be taken less seriously because this woman needed some attention.

[@amandahennek4806]

Hi Dr Grande, channel continues to improve. Ty for analyzing CR false abduction. Multiple yrs ago, 18yo female drove to gas station for gas, was not seen again. Also, our little lost girl will not be trusted again