Grandmother Involved in Two 'One-in-a-Million' Deaths a Year Apart | Tracey Nix Update and Analysis

[@thelocalmaladroit8873]

Regardless of the circumstances, if I lost 2 babies within a year I would lose my mind.

[@vonclod123]

Losing 2 under the care of grandma is just ridiculous..like what are the odds? accidentally..seems they would be astronomical

[@StallyFit]

Right. Poor daughter and babies. So traumatic

[@malloryknox6802]

​​​@@StallyFitthe daughter was away for several hours and didn't even bother calling the grandmother to check if the baby girl was okay, if she did maybe the baby would still be alive. It's her fault too

[@xtinctube7283]

I just think prison is not even remotely warranted

[@hospicehealer]

Would want to off myself

[@venderstrat]

If you've worked as a teacher and school principal, child safety should be second nature to you.

[@jaces2614]

Alzheimer’s?

[@channelchen]

I heard in a survival advice: Look in the most dangerous places first (pond in this case, or refrigerators, construction sites, holes and such), before moving your search to lesser dangerous places, like driving around in the neighborhood. It is good advice. I pray, I will never need it.

[@dawnfollett9215]

@@venderstrat I totally agree-except the little ones that died were before that school age. And clearly, neither mom nor grandma were aware of psychology/mental health changes that were occurring. I’m 68 almost 69, trust me when I tell you it alllll sneaks up on you!❤️

[@dawnfollett9215]

@@jaces2614 It can begin in your 50’s already.❤️

[@DarkEnergyHealer]

Psychos work in all walks of life unfortunately and they especially like positions of power. She liked power over little kids, extra sick!!

[@gretarobinson1142]

The jurors will be mad when they find out this was the second grandchild death

[@tammyjohnson7401]

I was actually surprised that at least one did not know of this incident

[@ShonaPeterson13]

That’s exactly what I thought and I also feel bad for them being on a jury is already a difficult thing to do because of the responsibility and they are going to feel someway after finding that out and they are definitely innocent in this situation that’s really unfair imo

[@dorbie]

@@tammyjohnson7401 They might know of it, but might not have associated it with the accused.

[@annaelia9093]

I was thinking the same.

[@JOHNTHEWHISK]

They should have been told. It's ridiculous that they weren't told this.

[@FearMyLadyBits]

if my spouse left a second child with their parent who already was involved in the death of my first child, my marriage would be done..

[@ouiouibien_1979]

Same

[@cindys.9688]

Absolutely. No doubt.

[@CarpeNutella]

Amen, sister

[@KathyLent]

I'm sorry. I'm a mom of 7 grown children and grandmother of 12. I have taken care of most of them plenty of times. The only incident under my watch was when a dog nipped my 2 year old grandson. He's nearly 13 now and I still feel upset and responsible for the event, in spite of the fact it was minor with no lasting effects. It made me become hyper cautious when caring for any of the children. I cannot fathom how such a tragedy could possibly happen twice. Something is not right with that woman and in my opinion, she belongs in prison.

[@SayNOtoreligionsandthink]

Absolutely!

[@gemmalow6515]

Thank you, someone using their brain in these comments I 💯 agree

[@zackjay71]

Right. Im a single father of twins. Since birth. Ive never ever once forgot them any where especially in a car. Ridiculous that any grown adult could forget.

[@kenziecarter9458]

I know this won’t erase your guilt but I’m sure you did everything you could to protect him in that moment, I’m sure if it was possible to foresee the nip you’d do everything in your power to prevent it

[@adriel7229]

Agreed. In the time the baby was in the car Tracey spoke with the child's mother and played the piano?! Sounds like she was taking some sadistic pleasure in it. There's no way talking to her daughter didn't remind her that her granddaughter was in her care. And this was presumably the first time she had ever been permitted to watch Uriel alone because she had caused the death of her older brother. I can't believe this was accidental.

[@gigifrasieur1586]

I wouldn’t be able to go on living with the knowledge I destroyed my grandchildren with such horribly brutal suffering. Grotesque.

[@JeffreyAllanBackowski]

Neither would I.

[@foff-666]

indeed

[@redlabel9294]

Yep. When watching news stories about parents who've left their children in their hot cars over the years, I always felt like I couldn't live with myself if I'd done that. It would be a life of hell knowing that I'd done that.

[@carpathianken]

My mother left my father when he got sick. My grandparents, (her mother & father) deemed getting ill to be a weakness & they started terrorising & raping my sisters while my mother sat back & did nothing. My dad ultimately died after battling leukaemia for 8 years. My sisters got paid out crimes compensation money, but it's obviously effected them & my brother I significantly. Family, including grandparents can be absolutely heartless & sadistic to their own grandchildren

[@cadillacdeville5828]

​@@carpathianken Oh my goodness 😢

[@Emerica.]

The only reason she was found not guilty was because the death of the first child was not allowed to be presented

[@JeepGirl941]

Which means justice wasn't possible because the most relevant truth was withheld.

[@WithoutRemorse12]

The jury didn't want to throw away an old white lady's life away. They presumed she was innocent and never were convinced by the prosecutor that this was some premeditated act.

[@Blake1720]

The grandfather was more responsible for that one for leaving when the grandma was asleep

[@EK-dt4cp]

@@Blake1720was that the correct order of events? (going to look it up right now..double checking…that would change my perspective, personally)

[@prasadgadde1314]

It doesn't change much. This is a small town with 4900 population. Everybody on the jury would have known about the previous incident.

[@PrissyHippie]

Something has to be wrong with this woman. Early onset dementia perhaps? How can a person be so neglectful/forgetful otherwise when it comes to her grandbabies? I mean twice? Holy smokes.

[@marlavice3267]

It seems like her daughter knew that too, but then took a really dumb chance.. 😔 sad

[@JeffreyAllanBackowski]

Because they were white, and her ugabuga husband didn't like them.

[@jaredticer6255]

I was thinking the same thing. Either very low iq or some kind of dementia going on.

[@tammyjohnson7401]

Or maybe like the mothers that purposely make there children ill, its a tragedy all around, just too close from the first death.

[@PrissyHippie]

@@JeffreyAllanBackowski oh lawd I hope that wasn't it! But he really shouldn't have left knowing she was asleep!

[@reneegardner2286]

A covert narcissist doesn't have to purposely do something to cause harm. Simply putting their needs first, neglects the child.

[@AnyaAnnika67]

Again utter garbage & testament to your entirely poor inductive reasoning process. There's no empirical evidence to support that this lady had NPD & I'm sure she had a full psyche evaluation & collateral history taken. People just luurrvvveee throwing these terms out these days with no regards to others.

[@debbieellett9093]

I am thinking that as well.

[@debjudd8289]

A possible 8 years in prison? I think 8 years in a mental hospital would be more appropriate. Definitely something terribly wrong with this woman. This case is simply devastating.

[@reneegardner2286]

She's knows what she's doing is wrong. She doesn't care. Her actions show that. It's covert narcissism. Who takes ambien knowing they're watching a child?! Also she put her daughter through an entire trial, but she gave zero explanation testifying bc there isn't one! My mother is a covert narcissist and anyone looking at her would think she's a caring person from the outside. She's worked with children doing childcare and worked in elderly nursing homes doing cleaning, but she's extremely psychologically and emotionally abusive. That's what is going on here. Pure negligence. She just had lunch with her grand baby. She even went back to the car!

[@ItsAllFakeAndGhey]

@@reneegardner2286 Narcissist is not the correct term, this is pure psychopathy.

[@gobbollino2688]

She votes Democrat. She’s ’pro-choice’ even after the event. A disgusting example of credible white voters (I am white myself)

[@Cat_inatophat]

Her playing the piano in the house whilst the baby is baking in a hot car is the stuff of horror movies

[@e_i_e_i_bro]

​@@reneegardner2286ok but what if there's absolutely no history of her behaving like this outside of her old age? Idk my brain can't comprehend this level of evil. Did they test her for Alzheimer's or anything?

[@icturner23]

Who goes DRIVING around FIRST when a toddler cannot be found? She should have looked immediately around the house before going elsewhere. That and not calling 911 immediately are why she’s responsible for Ezra’s death. It’s also a moronic defence that he hadn’t opened a door before, even if she could be sure that weren’t true. Toddlers learn multiple new skills every day - that’s how a two-year-old can do so much more than a one-year-old. Not having opened a door yesterday does not mean they won’t open one today.

[@farraharachne]

Because she was covering up what she had done, that's why she went driving, then somehow her eyes are better than her memory and she spotted him in a pond from her car while driving, and why she never called 911. She got away with two deaths at her hands. Allegedly and in my opinion. Also, I'm just speculating. But, if something doesn't make sense, it's because it's not true. I think Dr Grande has made a lot of assumptions about this perpetrator, about her character and intentions, that don't line up with the facts that we know.

[@MrsKS1999]

I agree. I think she looked around the house, but not the pond??? How far is a toddler going to go that you need to get in your car. Something doesn’t pass the smell test. If I had let two of my grand babies die on my watch I’d say lock me up!

[@kenziecarter9458]

I know right?!?

[@platanoluver]

That's a great point. She is literally so negligent and oblivious

[@carolynalexander6390]

Just as sad as sad can be!

[@fuzzyfriendsrescuevoluntee3036]

Who takes a nap with a toddler in the house with no safety locks!?! Then she forgot the 2nd child in 90 degree heat!? No one is this absent minded. Jesus Christ. 😢

[@friendlykiwi384]

It does seem very strange. U might think Gran would be hypervigilent w a child after the first tragedy….but clearly this was not the case 😢

[@ShonaPeterson13]

I agree I’ve got 6 and they are all very different but one thing that’s not is that I could and would never have been able to turn my back on them for two minutes at 18 months far less take a nap !

[@diahreea2022]

She was taking strong medications that cause sleepiness and memory issues, the baby's mother should know better than to let her babysit her small children

[@tanikokishimoto1604]

​@@ShonaPeterson13 if it is an overnight sitting of your grandchild - you are supposed to be awake 24/7???? Not realistic. Granddad was more culpable for the first death. He was responsible for not waking Tracy up when he left.

[@didomilan1725]

Did the grandpa leave when she was already sleeping? Kind of wondering what he’s doing to help

[@lilyrrichard236]

As a grandmother of 11, I find this extremely heartbreaking. As a parent, 2:00 I just can't understand the parents' decision to leave a second child with the grandmother. Thanks Dr Grande. You always help us understand situations better.

[@mikesapp3241]

well she kinda killed the first one, but damn we in a bind and need a sitter. whats the over/under granny will Epstein our other kid?

[@TheMariemarie16]

People are very insensitive it took her a long time to get over the situation and forgive her mom and it was considered a tragic accident because as Dr grande pointed out the first child left the home while they had been napping which he had never been known to be able to do before. Everybody is Monday morning quarterbacking on this issue but I think most parents would eventually let the grandmother have short visits with their grandchildren. ​@@mikesapp3241

[@KayosHybrid]

Lapse of judgement and hope for a neutral outcome. Lots of people make an ultimatum but when confronted with day to day needs you can convince yourself you are being too inflexible. Unfortunately this ended in another death.

[@dubaiedge]

​@@mikesapp3241right? Who tf would have thought. I personally wouldn't leave a fly with that woman again, but I can see how someone would think no WAY can lightning strike twice.

[@lupem0710]

My thoughts exactly.

[@dawnfollett9215]

As a “retired” ICU RN I have a couple of thoughts on this. If I was the grandma, if one grandchild was lost under my care, I would not trust myself to ever watch any grandchildren ever again. If I was the mom, I would not trust grandma to care for any of my children. It’s not about forgiveness-it’s about Alzheimer’s disease or any dementia that might be beginning in grandma. I can’t recall if Tracy (or grandma’s) age was given-but it doesn’t matter given dementia-or even meds that grandma is on-might be the problem or reason for the “forgetfulness.” Along with that could be the beginning of an undiagnosed mental illness. So for both grandma’s and the grandchild’s sake-as a mom I would not have grandma babysit. Now I have a health care background. For those who don’t have that, they should set up an appointment with the pediatrician or family physician and talk this over with them. It might not only save a life-it might also save a huge heartache.❤️

[@nipsforslips]

friend, you’re so right. it doesn’t matter if she was forgetful or not, two children were killed on her watch

[@dianafromaustralia3244]

@dawnfollett9215. Dr Grande said Tracey was born in April 1957.

[@trineskarb6021]

Something is mentally wrong with this grandmother. She is not well.. sleepy and forgetful.

[@terryKessler42719]

I’m an Adult Nurse Practitioner and have an extensive medical background of 47 years. This woman was tested for dementia and Alzheimer’s by the defense and was found to be of normal range for her age. She was just forgetful and in my opinion very complacent. Who naps when you are caring for a toddler? What mother leaves a child in the care of someone who is responsible for the death of one of your other children? She didn’t call or text her mother to check on the baby anytime during these afternoon hours. If she had done so, it would have reminded her mother the child was in the car. This woman deserves the harshest punishment available.

[@dawnfollett9215]

@ I don’t wish to argue on the whole topic-like I said, if I were the mom who already lost one of my little ones in the care of grandma-I would not have grandma care for anymore of my children. The grandma you said was “found to be of normal range for her age.” I don’t know what that exactly means in terms of “normal range for her age,” because irregardless grandma was not a reliable caregiver for her grandchildren. Without a doubt mom was not a reliable caregiver of her own little ones. I don’t know what her punishment should be-and I don’t know if it would even change her parenting skills. I wonder what mom’s mom (grandma’s) parenting skills were like when her daughter was young. Like so many parents (and adults in general)-they don’t get it how fragile life is at any age. I wouldn’t do well as a pediatric nurse-returning kids back to irresponsible parents. ❤️ P.S. I do not have children.

[@karenneill9109]

At my Grandmother’s home, the small child of visitors walked away from his mother. My Grandmother had warned the mother of the dangers of the pond, but when my Grandmother went inside to get lemonade, the mother let him wander off. The little boy drowned. Even though it wasn’t my Grandmother’s fault, she felt guilty. My Grandmother was OBSESSED with safety. She held my hand walking down the stairs far longer than I needed. She watched the pool like a hawk. She was very careful how we played with toys. She made sure doors were locked. She checked on us many times a night when we slept over. Once a child dies tragically, you become hyper vigilant. How could the Grandmother not have been INSANELY vigilant the very first time she babysat her new grandchild? I struggle with that.

[@sarahdingwall3024]

I agree. My husband and I had an extremely scary experience with our two year old who wondered outside of our holiday cottage whilst we were on holiday. We were very lucky that another family found him and returned him safely to us. We both felt exceptionally guilty we had not locked the cabin door. Going forward we have been extra vigilant about making sure the front door is locked and keeping a close eye on him in general (and his sisters). Anyone can make a mistake, but the point is that if you have an scary experience like this with a child (or, god forbid a tragedy) I don't understand why you would not learn from it and be super vigilant going forward.

[@karenneill9109]

@ I’m so glad your experience turned out okay! Kids can disappear so fast.

[@sabinegierth-waniczek4872]

@@sarahdingwall3024 Oh yes, I know the adrenaline rush which you must have experienced! Some mistakes must only be allowed to occur once in a lifetime, but best to avoid them at all, if possible. *Something is very off with this case, and we IMO do not know enough/ everything we would need to know to reach a valid conclusion.* I for one hope to get a follow-up!!! For me the *mugshot* is a dead (pun, but not fun, intended) giveaway. [Life experience in the same vein: Our then four yo. daughter suddenly wandered off on a very populous beach in Italy which my then husband knew very well. For me it was the first visit, and I was busy with getting my bearings, so he had agreed to be in charge watching her. The sea there is mostly extremely shallow, but there also are some deep stretches, where she could have drowned, because she was too young for swimming, as it was also her first time at the seaside. What I feared the most was her being snatched and taken away, because she always resisted my attempts to make her more attentive to her circumstances, and less friendly to strangers (I nearly despaired over this!), as she was a cute snub-nosed blondie at the time, and the epitome of an abduction victim. I cried my heart out and walked the mile-long beach several times up and down, my eyes peeled for my little stump of obstinacy. I already picutred how we would need to buy a coffin, or even bury her in a foreign country, if something happened to her! THANK GOD for the coincidence that she went straightaway to some of the very few German-speaking persons on this beach - two very nice women who also came from Switzerland like us, and who took it upon them to in turn look for her parents. I was so grateful for those two friendly strangers who watched my wayward offspring, but I was mad at her, and even more so at my ex-hb, who had neglected his duty, because he was too confident that she would not be able to vanish in mere seconds (my poor faculties to choose a partner are blatantly evident...). I WILL NEVER FORGET HOW UTTERLY DEJECTED I FELT! The anxiety caused me physical pain, and if it had been my fault that she absconded, I would have thrown myself into the sea for it. I can not understand that this "grandmother" was trusted a second time with the life of a precious grandchild! And as a mom - if I really needed to go to the hairdresser, I would have taken my child with me, as I always did, because I had nobody to do the babysitting!]

[@bluedistortions]

Yep, seems deliberate.

[@lizstraub6621]

Who takes a nap when they're watching a toddler? what kind of man leaves the house knowing his wife is napping while their toddler grandson is in their care? They should BOTH do time!

[@kyleboulanger170]

Maybe Tracey had early onset Alzheimer's.

[@annetakubiak3374]

My first, immediate thought !!

[@karencampbell2410]

Yeah I don’t understand that. You are looking after a little baby. You are responsible for their wellbeing. 😮

[@karencampbell2410]

It sounds as though the mother has dementia. Who does this!

[@brendamoon2660]

@lizstraub6621 this case upset me so much because something similar happened with someone I know. I dated a man for almost a year and as it got close to Christmas he started telling me about the holiday strain in his family. His sister had his parents watch her children while she met with her divorce lawyer. She came to get the kids and one was dead in the pool. Both the grandparents were on their computers in separate rooms. They both said they thought they could surf the web a while because they thought the other was watching the kids. Her ex got full custody of their baby and a big point was made of how the toddler died on her watch. My boyfriend at the time was distressed because his sister was still mad at their parents. He didn't understand how she could ruin Christmas over an accident. I very much sided with the sister and was flabbergasted that he felt the child's death was just a whoopsie. It's amazing how we can all view things differently

[@Ratzfourtyfour]

I just can't believe someone can be this oblivious after the first incident.

[@kyleboulanger170]

A woman named Paula Sims murdered her second daughter Heather in almost the identical way she murdered her first daughter Lorelai. She claimed an intruder knocked her out while she was taking out the garbage & abducted her daughters.

[@desoconnor7445]

When she arrived at her home with the child in car and was probably aware of her own tendency to forget important things she should have taken the child out of the car when she exited a the vehicle. Did she have any explanation at all why the baby was left in the car in the first place. Did the prosecution seek a mental competence assessment of the Granny…that’s a factor blowing in the wind which was pivotal in my opinion.

[@Riverpuppies]

Yes, she should have been hyper vigilant

[@JeffreyAllanBackowski]

Ok, try to imagine that situation in your head, then try to imagine that same situation except the old person is on 9 different medications.

[@fuzzyfriendsrescuevoluntee3036]

No one can be this absurdly absentminded. Christ. I’m wondering if that woman has other deaths in her past that nobody knows about. No one is that stupid.

[@loiskondo8349]

If I were responsible for the death of two of my grandchildren I wouldn’t want to live! Those poor babies, and the rest of the family! 😢Thank you Dr. Grande for your video of this tragedy!

[@Boogiebear-1965]

Same. I would probably take my own life.

[@calvinwalker4654]

Yes, but the same feeling would prevent you from killing your grandchildren. She did not have this feeling

[@Riverpuppies]

She could have saved her daughter court, she seemed more concerned about herself than her granddaughter

[@alexbaldwin404]

I told my mom this story and she looked at me and said "God, just kill me at that point"

[@jimgraham6722]

Its something about old age. I love my grand kids even more than the kids.

[@melli-yelli-i8i]

Many many years ago i took my toddler to daycare before heading to work and when i went to get her out if the backseat she was not there, i started shaking, panicking, crying and called my husband at the time only to find it was his day to take her to daycare on his way to work and she was safely inside. Like Dr. Grande says you can actually confabulate a memory of something that did not happen. Hindsight is 20/20, if you share responsibility, choose either picking up or drop off but don’t switch up the days. I still feel queasy thinking back on this event. Both my daughters are healthy and grown and i have four grandchildren that I’ve babysat through the years without incident but i will never forget that day, it’s seared into my memory. Edit: And if you must switch up days have a firm plan to every day confirm, baby is at daycare or baby is home through a text message.

[@debrabunger9302]

My heart goes out to you.

[@josealqueres]

I dont have kids but I would imagine cell phone alarms could help reminding you of such things, no ?

[@melli-yelli-i8i]

@@josealqueres yes! or put something you need in the backseat like a handbag or a briefcase for work, jacket. The thing about my second baby was she was so quiet. In my case i had the reverse situation, i thought i had forgotten her but i did not. She was safely at daycare.

[@finwefingolfin7113]

Imagine if you were in Tracey's situation where a child had accidentally died in your care and then you were given the care if another child. Unless you were a complete psychopath, tending to that child would be the first and only thing in your mind. it would be impossible to forget the child and not remember that you had accepted the responsibility of looking after them. I feel that she murdered both the children and likely has a condition similar to a serial killer or Munchausen's by Proxy where she gets a secret thrill out of this.

[@creativechaosify]

I agree - she was smirking in her jail photo, not a normal reaction for a grandmother who did what she did. I would also add that it was strange that she got into the car and drove around the property to look for Ezra. I mean, if the child was running around on the property, she could have driven over him. She also took her time with calling first responders both times. The whole thing is off.

[@donwiggins7645]

I agree. There is something more malicious than just forgetfulness going on here. Small children that belong to her daughter Kayla just seem to have a habit of dying when left in her care.

[@karenneill9109]

I agree, too. She ‘forgets’ the very first time she’s babysitting again? I’d be so damned stressed that I wouldn’t even go to the loo without the little one with me. I’m surprised the prosecution didn’t present this theory. Perhaps they thought that nobody would buy that this School Principal would ever be like that. (Of course, we all know that school teachers can be some of the worst abusers, because they are trusted).

[@sylwiax4418]

That theory is very unlikely, because she frequently stayed with her grandchildren. Also it is almost impossible to prove. Assuming she killed her grandchildren on purpose, don't you think that sombody will observe her strange behavior or signs of mental problems. Probably there are good psychiatrists that could diagnose her and exclude her madness.

[@soxpeewee]

💯

[@cplmpcocptcl6306]

If I lost my baby while in my Mom’s care…She’d never watch another child of mine.

[@jmomls]

Unless you had a hair appointment😂

[@kathyharmon2093]

@@jmomlslaughing shows your mental capacity

[@melli-yelli-i8i]

Agree, it took a village for this to happen twice

[@GFYKTHXBYE]

My mom tossed one of my indoor cats outside once when she was cat sitting and I was away on vacation. Guess who I don't ask to watch my cats anymore? And cats are far less important than a child....

[@Meela234]

Why would she put your cat outside when she was supposed to be caring for it?

[@GFYKTHXBYE]

@Meela234 She was cleaning up a bit without me asking to be nice, and had done a load of laundry. One of my cats was really attached to me because I bottle fed him as a baby. He peed in the laundry basket cause he was mad we weren't home so she threw him outside to pee I think? She thought he would come back tbh but he didn't...I was devastated 💔

[@carpathianken]

@@GFYKTHXBYE Cats are so clean, generally, but if they're pissed off they will pee on things out of despair/frustration . My cat peed on my curtains when I was away in the U.K.& my mother would visit daily to feed /water her. As soon as I returned home she never peed on anything other than her appropriate kitty litter spot ,ever. Sorry for your loss of your sweet boy.

[@ritanandori1850]

Terrible. Animal companion life is just as precious as human. They are innocent as children.

[@MooseGuy1]

@@ritanandori1850 You're kidding, right? I'm all for treating an animal kindly but it in no way rises to the level of a human being. A human is born in the image of God.

[@Badger1949]

Forgetting a precious grandchild under your watch is a crime. As a grandparent, 100% of my attention was on that child.

[@jessepitt]

You would think, given that she didn’t regularly watch the children due to the first incident, that she would be absolutely focused on her responsibility the second time.

[@JeffreyAllanBackowski]

Even while you were driving a car, your attention was 100% on your grandchild and not the road?

[@jessepitt]

@@JeffreyAllanBackowski Don’t be asinine.

[@jillcowley3150]

It is weird that the daughter forgot her hairdressing appointment too until prompted by an automated message from the salon.

[@Andreamom001]

Read the article Fatal Distraction. Anyone can forget a child is in the car. I knew this, so I was extra careful. I knew it could happen to me. It could happen to anyone. It has nothing to do with how much you love a child or how important the child is.

[@sashagarcia6205]

4:49 the fact she smiles in the mug shot.. she killed both children NEGLECT at leash my god this is so reckless not ONE child but TWO within a year my God my heart breaks for the mom can you imagine?? the awful news again back to back and now being childless after raising 2 babies wtf .. i hope the grandma realizes the pain she has caused

[@snu3877]

I thought the woman has a third, oldest child...? No?

[@terryKessler42719]

This mom had 2 other children at home. If someone had your child for 4 hours in the afternoon, wouldn’t you text or call just to see how they’re doing? If she had done so, grandma would have realized the baby was in the car. Perhaps that baby would have been alive now. Everyone failed this child that day.

[@libbytelford]

My goodness.When I got my puppy and drove him places, he would fall asleep in the back seat. I was always checking on him in the rear view mirror or turning my head. His well being was always top of mind (and still is). I couldn't ever imagine forgetting him, let alone a sleeping baby. The responsibility for a tiny, innocent, precious being that soley relies on you for their safety & security is so HUGE. This woman was convicted because she failed in that priveleged duty.

[@nitradee317]

If a second child died under her care, she’s guilty.

[@queenbee7749]

There was a tik tok family that I saw where the young daughter almost drowned. She recovered, and like 2 years later, they announced she was hit and killed by a car in front of their house. All I could think was you are guilty of negligence if not more WTF!

[@kelleycarr6414]

I’m astounded you say that 25% of parents had, at least once, forgotten a child in a vehicle…!! What??? I’ve had 4 children, (now grown 24-34y/o) and never ever, not even close, did I leave a child or forget I left a child in a vehicle. Not. Even. Close. I don’t get it…

[@Anubis7169]

"Think of how dumb the average person is, then realize half of them are dumber than that"

[@Meh-j9s]

Well, you’re in the 75%

[@roaldoats]

So you're in the 75%. That doesn't mean the other 25% don't exist

[@christinecampbell7301]

This. I suffered a career ending injury where my short term memory is impacted. I have trouble with short term memory processing although long term is unaffected. I have 2 kids, one of whom was born after my injury. Even I have never forgotten my children. It just baffles me.

[@Blissfulnessence]

It increased a hundred fold after airbags due to children being placed in the backseat.

[@julieburetz6938]

Why would the grandfather leave the house if Grandma was asleep, not watching the 16 month old?

[@777Pattie]

Yes why??? He's just as guilty in my opinion for doing that 💔.

[@All4mula]

How did he not know she was watching another grandchild after never having bring allowed to again

[@JeffreyAllanBackowski]

Because it wasn't his biological grandchild, I bet it was his idea. You seen the same picture of him that I did, doesn't he have evil look in his eyes?

[@kingcosworth2643]

She fell asleep 'after' he left

[@franwebb7756]

Neither one gave a 💩 about their grand kids.

[@earlofcumbrae-Ground_Zero]

Once could be an accident but twice is just mind blowing..world's worst grandmother!! RIP wee Babies. ❤️❤️

[@Pailers]

It's so WILD to me that the mother let the grandmother watch her other child after what happened to the first one.

[@LLandS18]

Well I mean she had a hair appointment. And when you canceled last minute on a hair salon you have to go to jail. Sometimes they execute for you for that. Oh wait, none of that's true. The worst thing that will happen to you is you might get a cancellation fee. I agree why in God's name would you ever let this woman be in charge of your child again. Everybody can go on about how it was an accident but how when you're babysitting do you decide that's a good time to take a nap and go out and run errands. Also how long was that nap. That to get to the pond. Normally you have to take a a four-wheeler to get there and this kid was able to get out the garage, get through the fence and walk all the way to the pond and drown before you even realize he was missing. No, it might have not been willful neglect but it was still neglectful. And I bet you that she didn't forget her phone.

[@exceptionaltalentspc4954]

​@@LLandS18Exactly. You are right on point about the phone. Apparently that's highly more important than a precious baby. And of course, a hair appointment is super important. I would had canceled the appointment and do my own hair at home. And what's wrong about taking your baby with you? I hate these people having children and still wanting to live as if nothing would ever changed in their daily routines after being a parent and that priorities would not need to be re-arranged.

[@hollycitasaysno]

​@@LLandS18agreed. But let's not forget that mom knew the history and chose a haircut over her living child. Forgotten baby syndrome is the least troubling part of this story. It was willful neglect to leave another child with her mother. Something obviously wrong there.

[@LifesAPeach2Me]

You'd think after NOT being allowed to watch your grandbaby because of what happened to the first grandbaby...you'd be hyper diligent with that child. How do you *forget* that you're watching a child...let alone your own grandchild? You'd think she would cherish every last second of being with that baby, plus wanting to prove to her daughter that she was capable. The woman is vile and beyond negligent. For the first time, I don't agree with Dr. Grande!

[@reneezavalia9522]

Your toddler grandson is missing and you drive around instead of checking the pond first? Then when you are allowed to watch your granchild for the first time after this you forget about her? I have to wonder if more is going on here... Dementia or something more sinister?? I don't know but it just seems off to me.

[@brittanytidwell1754]

Exactly. Just because it appears to be accidental does not mean it was. I’m not buying this bs.

[@reneegardner2286]

Covert narcissistm.

[@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206]

​@@reneegardner2286 Get off it! YOU seem to be the narcissist here! Obviously you are perfect and everybody else should be in prison! I hope when you make your NEXT mistake, it becomes public knowledge so we can all judge you as harshly as you judge others!!

[@Hollywoodinvestigator]

When they read the verdict and I saw Uriel’s mom about to pass out, I had tears in my eyes. Cannot imagine losing two of your precious babies and so close in time to eachother. If I was Tracey Nix, I would’ve be able to live with myself and would’ve just plead guilty and spend my time in prison repenting to God.

[@andia4965]

I think that the biggest crime here is that Tracy allowed this to go to trial, making both of her daughters testify against her. The least she could have done for her family would have been to pled guilty and avoided the trial.

[@AnnaBelll.e]

This was intentional. No one is that stupid.

[@kenziecarter9458]

Well yeah of course she’d pass out, this is all her fault. No hair appointment is more important than a child’s life

[@kenziecarter9458]

She should’ve been filled with guilt after the first child, this should never have happened again

[@e.a.4926]

She wasn't faultless. She left her child with a woman who was already responsible for her first child's death, because of a HAIR APPOINTMENT. Everybody sucks here. Did they even investigate? It seems really suspicious, like Grandma was on drugs or something.

[@teamcougars]

Due to this very situation is the reason I used to put my purse in the back seat when my children were little and in car seats I had to turn around to get my purse seeing the children so I didn’t get distracted and forgot them 😢

[@friendlykiwi384]

Yes, or something else that you MUST have to get back inside eg the house keys. Put them with the child. That way you can’t get back home without the kid being w you. Such a sad story 😢

[@analisathirwell7071]

Tracy remembered how to get to a restaurant to meet her friends… Remembered the time to meet her friends… Remembered her way home… Tracy remembered every day something that was required of her… She’s a liar and she hates her daughter.

[@KayG1029]

When my son was an infant, I parked at the grocery store and got out, locked the car and starting walking towards the door. I only got 4 or 5 steps before I remembered and ran back. I was so freaked out because I saw how it could happen even to me who is a careful person but really tired that morning 😑

[@Sweet_Tooth_Art]

I think thats the difference you where tired and probably hadn't been sleeping well. This lady wasn't looking after a baby full time it was only a few hours.

[@elizabethalbert8703]

Thank you for sharing.

[@friendshipbunny2559]

I never did that (not saying you're bad because you had a seconds-long lapse in memory), but I was so terrified, I taped notes to my steering wheel and my husband's, to remind us to check for the babies.

[@DaniL-hr9xo]

​@@Sweet_Tooth_Art there are a lot of reasons why a person can be tired, looking after a child is not the only one

[@exceptionaltalentspc4954]

I had memory issues and would forget things I needed to do but I would never forget I had a child that I was responsible for. My baby was just always part of me and I was always so immersed in my parenting role that I was always on alert mode. My daily routines and my priorities totally changed after having my son ❤

[@srper2]

I cannot understand that despite the grandfather being present at the home during each death, he was not considered to have any responsibility in the deaths. He knew they were babysitting but took no notice of what was happening to them until they died!! He is just as negligent and irresponsible.

[@cindyb8775]

he wasn't at home during the first death. he had left to run errands and when the grandmother woke up she called the grandfather and said she couldn't find him. he then came home

[@mjgerleman]

Couldn't he have woken her up before leaving?

[@texasrefugee7888]

It's always the woman's fault

[@cindyb8775]

@@mjgerleman I would say but I didn't watch the trial so I do not know for sure that she was asleep before he left. Seems to me he would have enough sense to know not to leave the house with an awake toddler and a sleeping babysitter/grandmother. its just that I do not know for sure she was asleep at that point.

[@lizstraub6621]

@@mjgerleman Exactly. It was clearly stated that she was asleep on the couch when he left!

[@ahermannblue]

The death of the first baby was criminal. A caretaker cannot sleep or nap while a 17 month old wanders around a 3,000 sq. ft. house. Anything could happen even inside the house. One cannot count on "low probability" events not to happen. The caretaker has to have eyes on the child at all times and be within hands-on reach of the child at all times. Yes, it's exhausting. I understand she was on some pretty heavy-duty medications (granny has to nap) but that's no excuse.

[@777Pattie]

Agree but grandfather was awake inside the house when the grandmother took her nap. I want to know why the grandfather thought it was okay to leave when grandmother was sleeping❓. And I bet grandfather left the interior door to the garage open‼️ This is so heartbreaking 💔.

[@ahermannblue]

@@777Pattie Yes, I agree.

[@SweetSassyBull]

I didn't know that. Do you know what she was taking?

[@saraha5847]

@@SweetSassyBullI know for sure she was on ambien. Not sure if there were other meds. Why on earth someone would take that knowing they’re responsible for watching a young child is beyond my comprehension. We already know affects of ambien. 😢

[@SweetSassyBull]

​@@saraha5847Many thanks for the info 👍

[@NoReflection-tm2cp]

She needs to be evaluated for dementia while she is behind bars. Something is wrong with her.

[@bluedistortions]

It ain't dementia. She hates her daughter. She's smirking in her mugshot.

[@steveeuphrates-river7342]

I can't imagine how, after losing one grandchild on your watch, you could just forget about the second one in the car

[@sabinegierth-waniczek4872]

Especially after Tracy allegedly earlier dining out IN COMPANY - where was the child during this time?!? Maybe already in the car, for an even longer duration? Something is very off here, IN MY OPINION.

[@frankmaze1972]

Many years ago we accidentally left my 6 month old sister in her car seat in the driveway of a cabin that we had rented for the weekend. We had packed up the station wagon and got about 20 miles down the road when someone realized we didn't have the baby. We went screaming back to the the cabin at speeds in excess of 100mph. She was sitting there safe and sound in her car seat wondering why we were so upset.

[@annahaleybaker7482]

Leaving my child with a caregiver, family or not, and my child dies under their care, never again would I trust them with another child

[@relativeus]

Especially a a young child like this case. Perhaps after the kids are old enough to be more self-sufficient but likely not even then.

[@whosaidthat9265]

Exactly. I’m at a loss regarding mom’s decision making. For a hair appointment? Either my baby can come with me or I have to reschedule because what’s not going to happen is the grandma/grandpa watching her. Priorities.

[@JeffreyAllanBackowski]

What if I was watching your kid and a huge bird grabbed them and flew away, would you blame that on me?

[@groverhateselmo]

Especially for a haircut. I certainly wouldn’t leave an infant all day with someone for a one hour hair appointment either

[@djg5950]

@@JeffreyAllanBackowski No, but that's not what happened so that scenario is a moot point.

[@icturner23]

You’re wrong that forgetting for longer is no worse than forgetting for a shorter time. She not only forgot that she left Uriel in the car - she forgot to check on her for three hours. Even if she’d taken her inside, those three hours would have been a serious failure.

[@adriel7229]

When working at a daycare, one day I left a toddler in our (enclosed) backyard playground. As soon as I got back inside I realized I had 3 kids instead of 4 and ran out after him. He was fine, didn't even realize anything was amiss. I can't imagine forgetting about the child you are watching for 3 whole hours. I don't believe it was an accident.

[@Cosmicbelt621]

I think it goes more to the fact that she forgot she had a child with her that day at all, not that she realized she was babysitting and forgot to check on him frequently enough, its an extension of forgetting she ever had him at all in the first place. But i agree that objectively its worse and clearly the effect is worse, the difference between life and death

[@jentleil2183]

GOOD POINT!

[@lmendez1289]

Also, the mom didn't call or anything to check up on how was grandma doing with the baby for THREE HOURS.

[@Bonnie-cu5hx]

I can't comprehend a person forgetting a baby in a car. Sadly her memory is short maybe due to her age or early stages of dementia. After losing her grandson it seems that she would of been more cautious. Thank you Dr. Grande

[@thecastle09]

I call bulls4&t..

[@nickalexander4431]

Yes exactly right its incomprehensible

[@lizstraub6621]

Agree 100% this woman is not dealing with a full deck. I also worry that this will destroy her daughter's marriage, as her husband would understandably be furious that his wife let her mother babysit when that had been forbidden. I raised 3 children to adulthood, and cared for many nieces and nephews. There was no reason IMHO for Kayla to NOT have taken that poor baby girl to the hair salon with her. I pray for the babies' souls and that Kayla's husband doesn't lose it and do something he'll regret. What a mess, and a horrible tragedy.

[@uberalles2465]

She's only 65. how can you say her age?? 65 is not that old, trust me.

[@nickalexander4431]

@lizstraub6621 and also if I had to weigh up a decision of whether to leave child with someone who already showed neglect or cancel a hair appointment. I would just cancel the appointment

[@The-Portland-Daily-Blink]

I feel so sorry for the poor mother. She trusted her mother TWICE, to take care of her children. I think it's really sad that people are blaming the mother for this. The comments on Instagram on this story are brutal. She ruined her daughter's life. For this to happen a second time is just awful. The poor daughter will never be able to have a normal relationship with her mother, ever again. Her mother's careless negligence resulted in the death of TWO of her daughter's children. It is basically unforgivable. I cannot IMAGINE doing this to either children. How brain dead to you have to be to do this? The poor mother. I cannot imagine how much pain she must be in, and the anger at her mother. What a horrible tragedy.

[@KayG1029]

Who made that phone call to the daughter about the second child? 👀 I couldn’t even.

[@snu3877]

@@KayG1029 It was a cop showing up at her door telling her her child was dead. I read that the mother was confused at first, thinking the cop oddly was referring to her son who'd died months before. Ugh. Imagine her shock when she realized the cop was talking about her daughter.

[@cellostrings2522]

There is no way on gods green earth that I would have ever left my second baby with her!! This case is bizarre and the grandmother does need to have some kind of punishment. She caused the death of TWO grand children!!! There is something seriously wrong with this woman.

[@cellostrings2522]

And prison rarely rehabilitates people.

[@bar9849]

come on... she is guilty AF for both..

[@BB-dk3fd]

Probably the daughter knows that her mom struggles with all these memory issues. I know people like that. 😢

[@Kayrunningandcoffeeaddict]

Agree 💯

[@brendamoon2660]

I'm sad that so many people are blaming the babies mother for letting her watch the baby. I saw an interview with her where she said after the first child died everybody was criticizing her for keeping the baby away and not forgiving the "accident" the grandmother was a retired principal. In small towns education leaders are treated like they can do no wrong. I understand how when she was grief stricken and the whole town was ganging up on her she started to doubt her judgment and give in.

[@MsOka007]

Still the whole mob was wrong. She definitely was partly guilty. Better to spend money in babysitters than free with a killing demented grandmother.

[@michelerobinson4815]

I agree! I feel so bad for the mother being blamed first for letting the second baby stay with the grandmother and then being criticized for testifying against her. Twilight zone!!!

[@Ebony0420]

There is some blame for her to take. I believe it was an honest mistake, but the mother of the baby is partly to blame as well. If one of my kids passed, in your care, you’d never get another chance to keep my kids again.

[@whosaidthat9265]

Ummmm I wouldn’t care if the entire US had a problem with me, I’m protecting my child. Period. A grown woman failing to make appropriate decisions to ensure their child’s safety is preposterous

[@mikesapp3241]

this is interesting twist, my mother is 75 and retired principle from small southern town, her Dementia has gotten so bad we couldnt let her babysit toddlers.

[@estelle5686]

The first death was as a result of a grandparent falling asleep while caring for a toddler who is active during the day. That is negligent. What grandmother sleeps while a toddler is up and active? If the child were napping in a safe place, that would be understandable. The grandmother forgot the child a second time. Two dead grandchildren. It's exponentially unlikely and very, very sad. Bad all the way around. Prison serves as punishment. The justification is serving time for something which is a felony in our society. Jail is punishment AND learning lessons, having wake up calls, spiritual experiences, many purposes and great outcomes can result from prison. She can have a life she starts over in prison. There's no justice in the unfortunate death of people. Punishment in this case.

[@TheRetromantic81]

Also why did her husband leave to run errands without thinking that maybe he should wake her up and let her know he was leaving and the toddler was unsupervised? Just a thought.

[@chelseab9091]

She was also let go from her job as a principal for memory issues.

[@jmomls]

She probably murdered both, straight up

[@AJ-hz3tx]

Grandpa was there and left the house while grandma was asleep. There were TWO adults in that house:

[@90secondsuntilmidnight]

The grandpa was awake

[@LifesAPeach2Me]

What I see is a Grandmother who really cared less about her own grandchildren. How do you *forget* that you are taking care of a child? How do you *forget* that you're watching *your own grandchild?* Just to be allowed to watch her, when she hadn't been trusted to do so, you would think that she would have cherished ever second....if for no other reason but to prove she was trustworthy and that the first _accident_ was actually an accident. I have a horrible memory, but I think I could remember that I just picked my grandbaby up and what a blessing to have her in my care. I DISAGREE with you on this one Dr. Grande!

[@emilyh333]

Yes definitely she should still be held responsible for child neglect just like others have in similar scenarios.

[@ColleenC-n5v]

This is a very thoughtful and compassionate ananlysis of a tragic situation. Blessings to this family.

[@lisagriffith340]

I have to wonder how her kids made it to adulthood.

[@NalaRichenbach]

There is something seriously wrong with that grandmother. I hope someone forgets about her some day.

[@reneegardner2286]

Literally. Shane she would put her daughter through a trial thos heartbreaking them zero explanation on the stand. Pathetic

[@Nylak-Otter]

I would take my mother for a drive out to the mountains and forget her deep in the woods if I was in this situation. She'd still have a chance, at least. Then again, my mother was a bit of a monster without killing anyone I loved, which may not have been the case with this woman.

[@James-fj6yo]

Forgotten baby syndrome, this is nothing but a copout. Instead of holding people responsible for their actions they give it a name and give these people a pass. Just unbelievable.

[@franwebb7756]

Yes remember that creep who played video games while his baby girl roasted in a hot car down in FL. Guess he should just get a firm talking to and let go.

[@clairegresswell]

Spot on!

[@rplace8737]

True. Well said!

[@Hottool365]

After the 1st grandchild died under her care. She got lucky that her daughter forgave her and trusted her again. You would think that she would watch that baby like a hawk. Set reminders since she was so “forgetful.” Is it dementia or did she just hate her daughter’s happiness?

[@AnnaBelll.e]

Our judicial system is a joke. My heart breaks for the mother of these babies. There is absolutely no excuse for this woman. I owned a daycare for almost 20 years. The neglect in this case is mind-boggling. If this wasn't the grandmother the daycare owner would do 20 years. The forgotten baby syndrome stuff could have flown if the first baby wasn't dead do to her negligence. After the first death, there's no way a reasonable person would forget a baby for 3 hours. This woman should do 20 at least.

[@joerudnik9290]

Both cases are related through a ‘standard of care’. They both died because both adults weren’t lazer-focused on an under-3 year old. That is a duty, especially when child safety standards aren’t being met.

[@emilyh333]

Thank you. More need to know. Child neglect in both situations. Others are held responsible for child neglect in similar circumstances.

[@terryKessler42719]

Perhaps we should hear from Mrs. Dr. Grande and get her thoughts on this subject. Dr. Grande seems to be giving Tracy the benefit of the doubt and he’s wrong this time. We’re talking about 2 babies murdered by granny.

[@brendamoon2660]

I dont understand how the grandfather did not ask about the baby since one child died already. We've never had a tragedy like this in our family but we check in with each other regardless. If anyone in my family had been in that house when the grandmother came home we would have said " where is the baby? Did you take her back home?

[@brandybarnett9953]

I am not sure that Grandpa knew she even had the baby. She picked up baby from mom, took baby out to lunch, then came home.

[@vickichristensen422]

​@@brandybarnett9953 plus he might not have even been home

[@JeffreyAllanBackowski]

It's not biological grandchild, he probably put her up to it.

[@jessicaodom3550]

Why didn't the mother check in?

[@jessicaodom3550]

I would have called within hour 1 checking in with gma

[@Dan-oj4iq]

Was alcohol ever investigated regarding Tracey?

[@ojgsk8ter]

They arrested her immediately for the hot car death so they most likely tested her for substances. They probably would have gotten an easy conviction if she was found to be impaired which is a win for the police and the prosecutors office. I’d be surprised if they didn’t test her although the police have dropped the ball in much worse ways in the past as we’ve seen on this channel.

[@friendlykiwi384]

I was just thinking that too….the lunch w friends?

[@motheryuba57]

@@friendlykiwi384 Alcohol or prescription medication. Early onset dementia or Alzheimers. I'm the same age as the grandmother 67 years. There is definitely something very wrong with the grandmother.

[@PaigeWashington-q2k]

Thank you! Who sleeps that hard while knowing they're watching a toddler? What's with the lunch with friends? Brunch with mimosas???

[@Sweet_Tooth_Art]

Its very strange to me that the first death was excluded from evidence. It really charges the situation. Her reaction was also very strange. Not calling 911 and seeming to really only talk about herself. I don't understand how she could forget the baby in the car after the drowning. If that was me i would never let any child out of my sight.

[@reneegardner2286]

Her actions show she doesn't care like she pretends she does

[@Neilsowards]

I was under the impression that she didnt call 911 because she was doing CPR and someone else called 911.

[@Hatbox948]

It's unbelievable. I don't know how the daughter copes with all the emotions this must stir up. I babysat my older grandkids once and passed out from low blood sugar. Scared them to death, but they called 911 and my son in law's mom who was a RN and lived not far away. My daughter did not want me babysitting after that and I didn't blame her. What if I'd been driving them somewhere?

[@imovieee3666]

Prison is not just about the rehabilitation of the wrong doer, it serves also as a healing mechanism for the victims to be aware that their suffering is being taken seriously, it also serves as a deterrent to show that certain behaviors have consequences and should be best avoided. 1 year in prison would have served everybody well in this case, especially the memory of a child who died without just cause because somebody was careless.

[@gbinman]

My first wife, before we were married had lost her first 2 sons, who were left in a car while the caretaker went shopping, both didn't survive due to heat. She was pregnant with her third son. She suffered from that loss massively. Prosecuting the the caretaker who was convicted actually provided little benefit. It destroyed her first marriage and left her with issues for life.

[@Cat_herders]

Devastating.

[@leiakiki]

My goodness, I’m so sorry to hear that ❤

[@saraha5847]

I cannot fathom enduring something so devastating. That is absolutely awful 😭

[@ritanandori1850]

I’m truly sorry for her loss; however, knowing the guilty are put away does help, even if it does not erase the tragedy.

[@gbinman]

you are correct. I don't know if it actually helped. It was my sense that it would have been worse if there had been no consequences. That was over 50 years ago, and people still leave children in cars and they die from heat.

[@brendamoon2660]

Her hard lesson is that she needs to pay attention when someone's life is in her hands. She should have learned before the first death to either not take responsibilities she can't handle or put safety measures in place. There should have been safety locks on the doors and she should have taken safety precautions with the second, like putting one of her shoes in the back seat. I couldn't disagree with Dr Grande more on this one.

[@friendlykiwi384]

She could have even refused to look after the second child….err on the side of caution

[@MooseGuy1]

To just satisfy a need for government vengeance in this case is useless and non-productive. It would serve no purpose. People aren't going to stop being forgetful because they did a stretch. It's involuntary, like breathing. You won't stop breathing if you were told not to and went to jail for breathing. It's a horrible story, granted. And it may feel good to you that "someone has to pay" but it's intellectually lazy and a bad precedent. Dr. Grande is correct. You accept that the woman is very likely to forget and adjust accordingly, as in keeping her away from anything that requires sharp cognitive skills. Prison just wastes money in a case like this and would accomplish nothing.

[@Sweet_Tooth_Art]

Im very interested in what her kids childhood was like. And thw kids at the school she worked

[@Cat_inatophat]

How about a simple text conversation to the Mom “I am home now” “how is the baby?” “Oh yes I have her in the house and she is fine” - more communication was needed

[@leslietolbert1289]

I am a grandma and I cannot believe that this happened once Let alone twice!! I have 3 grandkids and I would never EVER be able to forgive myself!! I wonder if this lady is completely sane and there are no mental health issues I issues going on. 😢😢😢😢😢

[@carolray3637]

Dr Grande I love your kind analysis of this very sad case. I feel that you are right - and a very nice person.

[@AsaLindstrom-j9f]

❤

[@ItsAllFakeAndGhey]

One could be a mistake-but not twice. Psychopath was probably jealous of the babies that her daughter gave them more attention

[@courtneyhill6444]

This is what I was thinking

[@AnyaAnnika67]

Utterly ridiculous and an easy accusation to throw around when you're not personally affected. As a psychiatrist I get sick of people throwing around terms that are actually pretty rare diagnosis. There's nothing to suggest she was a psychopath- you clearly need to evaluate your inductive reasoning processes. It's more likely, if anything, that she had an organic brain illness.

[@Sgt_Glory]

​@@AnyaAnnika67from what I've read, after the first incident, apparently the grandmother put a lot of effort into trying to reverse the daughter's decision to not let her babysit again, including guilt tripping the daughter into letting her babysit another child. Just adding that detail to consider.

[@someonerandom256]

I think the first one was an accident, but that she really enjoyed the drama and attention she got from it, so she did it again on purpose. Or, she was mad at her daughter for not letting her babysit after the first incident and wanted payback. That dry eyed smirk in the mugshot. Either way something is way off with this lady psychologically, and I have concerns about her daughter's mental health as well.

[@soyyo143]

This case actually made my heart ache!! I can't image what this woman was ever thinking? She was probably never thinking beyond herself...... Just so so tragic.

[@joykiser6673]

I can’t listen to this anymore. No more excuses.

[@JBplumbing12]

These are the sorts of cases for which we cannot know the awareness or intent of the person charged, and we cannot know what happened. But one thing is for sure, and that is that malicious people know that, and frequently orchestrate such circumstances and set their crimes accordingly.

[@tmusa2002]

I came home to my MIL sleeping and my 2- and 4-year olds on their own. Babysitting had to stop. Too dangerous. We literally moved, in part, to keep her from babysitting. We got lucky-our kids could have ran outside, too. Scary.

[@emilyh333]

Yes! Dr. Grande missed the point that she made mistakes out of child neglect.

[@beckypalmer-scott329]

I don't get how Tracy thought it was ok to take a nap when watching the baby and how her husband felt it was ok to leave things that way.

[@Cyrus-z6o]

Yeah, this needs to be discussed more. Like, did she ask her husband to watch the baby while she napped? And what did he say? I'll bet she just went to take the nap without asking her husband for help, just assumed he would do so; this causes passive aggressive resentment in the husband do there is more here than meets the eye. But it sounds me like like the grandfather left the door open, which is why the child got out in the first place do this line of questioning should have happened.

[@leiakiki]

She fell asleep after he left the house, perhaps she just nodded off. It is documented in the case.

[@kublakhan2342]

I used to take sofa naps with my daughter playing around all the time when she was a toddler. She was a quiet toddler who was happy to amuse herself and she would come up to wake me occasionally or jump up next to me to give me hugs etc...i worked night shifts so thought ahead, I knew i was prone to feeling overwhelmingly tired. The room i napped in was completely child proofed and there was no way she could get out of the room. Sleeping isn't the issue, sleeping and leaving the child unsupervised in an unsafe environment is the issue. That's negligence. When my son was a toddler I couldn't nap around him... not for a second because he was dead set on breaking stuff (or himself) and trying to escape... no matter how well i baby proofed he would find something, so much so we had to buy a play pen (or as we called it, baby prison) just to do simple tasks because he needed full supervision the whole time he had his eyes open, so if i was washing up in the kitchen, he would be climbing the sofa in the living room trying to launch himself as soon as my back was turned. Not every child is the same, so lets not demonise the act of napping around a child, lets focus on the actual problem of not using wisdom and child proofing and making sure the environment is safe. The toddler escaping could have happened while she was awake and distracted by the sounds of it...that should never be the case. He could have wandered up to the road or been kidnapped or anything. Unfortunately he got to the pond because he had the time too. I know one thing is for sure, if I'm looking after other people's children there would be absolutely no napping and that child had my undivided attention until the child is back with their parents.

[@sarahkeppler8043]

​@@kublakhan2342you are 1000% right! Napping/sleeping if the child is safe is not the issue... how else would parents ever sleep...but Ezra was not safe and that was the grandparens fault!

[@daveatkins3568]

Don’t usually disagree with the doc. I do here. 😎✌🏼

[@kennahowe7582]

Same.

[@staceyelizabeth5890]

Me too

[@LizHall-k5d]

Yes

[@franwebb7756]

Yes going to prison is not to be taught a lesson, it can be but that's not what it's about. It's about punishment and paying for your negligence and yes she was negligent. Who cares if she learns anything. She killed a baby in a horrible way where she meant to or not.

[@Rachel-v5u1m]

I do too.

[@kimberlyharris3470]

No one has ever questioned the grandfather about his responsibility in both deaths.

[@dekev7503]

Heroine is one hell of a drug, seek help 😒

[@LaciRae]

he’s a man. everyone knows men are unable to handle the responsibility of caring for children. that’s strictly a woman’s job.

[@twentyrothmans7308]

It's always the men, isn't it.

[@LaciRae]

@@twentyrothmans7308 no. it’s never the men. as shown here.

[@CrimeAndTides]

I love the question you posed: Is this a crime that warrants prison & if so, what is the objective? This is a fantastic question for a defense attorney to ask a jury during closing. Some cases are just horrible tragedies. Does every tragedy warrant a conviction ?🤔 This was my favorite episode yet. It raises so many philosophical questions 🤯

[@mgmarrow]

I completely agree!

[@CrissieLuckey]

I think Dr Grande overlooks a VERY important aspect of this case insofar as whether prison is warranted: Public policy concerns dictate harsh punishment to avoid setting a bad precedent for future cases. Even assuming she honestly "forgot" (which I seriously doubt), her actions caused the easily preventable death of a child! If we let so called "caretakers" slide when their forgetfulness proves fatal for their charges, where will it end? Every unwanted or inconvenient child may be safely murdered by simply claiming you forgot to get them out of a dangerous situation. If your elderly parents become too big a burden, just "accidentally" leave the gas on while your stove is running during some quick errand.... The best preventive measure may well be strong incentive to ensure you NEVER "forget" or really forget anything important enough to mean life or death!

[@melli-yelli-i8i]

@@CrissieLuckey this is s good point, I had not thought of this. Even if grandma is innocent of evil intentions someone following this situation now knows that they can simply claim they “forgot” even though they didn’t. It’s certainly a tragedy here and we may never know the truth of what was in grandma’s heart or mind. Does she have early cognitive decline or what? We don’t know. Knowing this would certainly clarify positions on the case.

[@UNOwn-ib1td]

This is just all too much. Was the little boy taking a nap when the grandma fell asleep? You don’t sleep with a toddler running around. You Have To Watch Toddlers Constantly. And did he say the husband left while she was sleeping? WTH? And, was this the first time she had the new baby since the boy died?? Why wasn’t she being hyper aware? For 3 hours she forgot that a little earlier she was given a second chance to not kill a grandkid. This is really unbelievable. I don’t agree with the doctor. She should get a year or something. She obviously wasn’t too shaken up over the first kid. So, so sad.

[@pscoolguy]

This conclusion is completely wrong. The grandmother was a retired teacher and school principal. It is very strange that after spending a career lifetime working with children and ensuring their safety that she would be do irresponsible with the lives of her own grandchildren TWICE! Lock her up! It’s almost as if she didn’t want her grandchildren to live 😢😢😢

[@swn32]

A complete non sequitur argument that won't hold up in court.

[@Jenna.mnadvocate]

I think she intentionally killed them. She sounds like narcissist

[@SweetSassyBull]

Her whole demeanour in court in all the videos I've watched are also "very off". She doesn't seem right and she doesn't exactly appear a broken woman which I would imagine almost any other grandmother would be.

[@farraharachne]

​@Jenna.mnadvocate I agree. I think it's nearly plain as day that this grandmother had a blatant personality disorder. The actions she took during and after the first killing make it apparent, let alone the second killing. She got away with two homicides, in my opinion. If Dr Grande was being fair, he'd have used her smug, smiling mugshot rather than the mask she's wearing for the court in the video thumbnail. :( Those poor babies, and the poor mother of those babies.

[@roadpizza3470]

And did she drink alcohol at lunch?

[@0livita]

dr grande i adore your calm voice & consistent coverage, always so much to learn with a dash of humor

[@phishENchimps]

He has a very Ranke approach.

[@JeffreyAllanBackowski]

He sounds like a small bundle of sticks.

[@prairiepetresort1698]

We ALL adore Dr Grande

[@kims8317]

Tracey Nix is either super unlucky or there is something really wrong with her ... maybe even sinister about her. I sincerely hope they give her the maximum time in jail. I think the reason the jury had "a reasonable doubt that recklessness was involved" instead of finding her guilty of manslaughter was because they were unaware that only a year before, another of her grandchildren had also died in her care. That's some serious RECKLESSNESS!!! TWICE!!! This is such a sad story. I feel so bad for this woman's daughter-the mother of these two children. I've never heard of this "forgotten baby syndrome" but you explain it well. It makes sense the way you've explained it here.

[@ViewerNumber9]

Absolutely sinister.

[@malloryknox6802]

The baby's mother is to blame too, she didn't even bother calling the grandmother to check if the baby was okay during the many hours she was away. After what happened to the first child she should be calling often

[@sarahkeppler8043]

I agree! You wiuld Think she would Check in, especially since this was the First time grandma was watching Uriel! Why leave her that long with her?

[@malloryknox6802]

@sarahkeppler8043 yep, not to mention that after the hair appointment was over instead of picking her daughter up she went home to do laundry. She didn't care

[@bluedistortions]

Good point. And the grandfather being equally absent and clueless. The entire family seems cooked.

[@sincity8717]

In the first incident with the boy, it sounds like the husband is at fault. Her husband should not have left to run errands, since his wife was asleep.

[@letsgobrandon6281]

Cmon

[@girlofthealpines]

​@@letsgobrandon6281how is that not accurate? They were both responsible for their grandson and he knew his wife was asleep. He could have woken her up, delayed his trip, or brought the child with him. He did nothing.

[@maryfrancesbeckerhaggerty5353]

Yes, I totally agree. Pop Pop has some responsibility as well.

[@777Pattie]

I bet you 💯% that grandfather left the interior door leading to the garage open when he left the home leaving grandmother asleep with a wide awake toddler‼️🧐💔

[@roaldoats]

He is way more culpable here than the grandmother, he made the conscious choice to leave a baby unattended. But no one even thinks of this because obviously the woman is supposed to be the caretaker.

[@jessepitt]

I have two children now old enough to get out of a vehicle by themselves. I didn’t forget either in a vehicle a single time for even a second. I have never forgotten one of my dogs in the car for Pete’s sake. I think the common denominator is the grandmothers lack of value she placed in her grandchildren. My parents are divorced and neither see my kids regularly. When they do see my kids they absolutely put their entire being into watching them. They don’t ever stop focusing, just like us parents. It’s what you do when you entrusted with something so earthshakingly important.

[@nicoleme1457]

Bravo, exactly what I have just said. I would never neglect my attention from the care of my grankids, it's an absolute unquestioning priority while they are in my care.

[@AzothDee]

Well said.

[@kenziecarter9458]

I wish I could word this as good as you did but I’ve never forgotten newly bought ice cream in a hot car, let alone a living being

[@CarnivoreRonin]

I really don't know what to think about this one. I'm a 52 year old university professor and not someone that would typically be considered mentally deficient. Yet, I have actual, diagnosed ADHD, and have all of my life. I raised 2 kids to adulthood successfully and I'm tempted to think it could never have happened to me, but... Damn, I don't know. I do know that I'm always overly careful and will always be that way for my grandkids. Maybe it is simpler for me because I know my limitations and don't rely on faulty executive function that may, or may not work. Seriously, this is a tough one the more I ponder and don't just make a surface level decision.

[@andromedatonks60]

I agree. I also have ADHD (and am a phd student who would be considered mentally sound) and I know my limitations, and realistically, I’d be worried that this could happen. I know I’m absent-minded and prone to forgetting things, no matter how important they are. But I make sure no one gets hurt because of that. My solution has been to just not have kids. I’m terrified to even get a pet; I have nightmares in which I got a pet and suddenly realize I forgot to feed or take care of it and it’s probably dead. Can’t imagine how devastating it must have been for this grandma to realize those kids were missing or left in the car. But if you know that’s possible for you, you either come up with other systems to remember or keep track of things or you don’t allow yourself the responsibility.

[@Zia01023]

As a mother, grandmother and school principle she was completely negligent and reckless. After the tragic death of her grandson one would think she would have that baby glued to her! She killed her granddaughter! Her husband is equally as ignorant, careless and negligent.

[@sweetanila26]

I agree 100%.

[@dorkydragon5055]

How is child not even thought of for that long? Not making noise suspicious, making too much noise suspicious, did they eat are they sleeping? How. This kid wasn't even a thought. Put gran in the forever box.

[@goofygirl1311]

How could Tracey drive home, see her husband and never once mention in nearly 3 hours that she had gone to lunch with her friends at Beef O'Brady's and that she had Uri with her there? Did she not even bother to text her husband to tell him that she planned to bring Uri home to watch until the early evening? None of this makes a bit of sense.

[@celeca7]

If she was truly sorry for what she did, why not plead guilty? Why make the family go thru a trial? “She maintains her innocence.” Really?? I would be begging them to bury me under the prison

[@mrazik131]

Narcissistic people are never guilty it’s others people fault.

[@AnyaAnnika67]

The point being what the charges were that she was pleading to. I can understand feeling guilty & wanting to plead guilty as a punishment but it would be contingent upon what I'd be pleading guilty to.

[@AnyaAnnika67]

@@mrazik131I as a psychiatrist get sick of people throwing around the term narcissism when they're not a qualified physician as it's a rare diagnosis & two, there's nothing to suggest she was, most likely an organic illness like dementia.

[@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206]

Bc I imagine she doesn't consider something happening unintentionally to be grounds for prison. Could you imagine forgetting something and being convicted for 8 years in prison for a mistake. I get that this wasn't forgetting the laundry or whatever but as you age, *nothing* works as it used to. I get it! I don't sleep well, I'm always tired and everything hurts ALL THE TIME!! My memory isn't what it used to be either! Just like all the other women, I've experienced cognitive decline with menopause, should I be in prison too bc I'm forgetful?! No mine has not ended 2 small people but a mistake is just that, an unintentional mistake! I imagine when YOU make a mistake, you forgive yourself bc of your reasoning as to why it happened but other people HAVE NO EXCUSE do they?!

[@celeca7]

@@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206 The reasons you mentioned are the very reasons she wasn’t charged with murder. There was no intent. There was, however, negligence. Twice. I don’t know if you followed the Sarah Boone case but the key word she repeatedly used during her interrogation was “unintentional,” as if that alone absolved her of all culpability. It obviously didn’t as she’s in prison because someone died due to her action / inaction. But she was not charged with intentional homicide. Mrs. Nix is guilty of negligence at the very least and it has cost her dearly. I’m not even referring to her potential prison sentence

[@Catinthedesert]

So wait. Her husband was awake and left the child and his SLEEPING spouse alone doors unlocked. He is equally at fault. Child alarms should be on all doors. Yikes.

[@JeffreyAllanBackowski]

Yes, he's totally at fault, he's culpable.

[@leiakiki]

The grandmother had reportedly fallen asleep on the couch in the living room while her partner was running errands. So after he left the house.

[@Sweet_Tooth_Art]

He claims she was awake in the room and he left the baby asleep with her. She claims she was asleep.

[@shameronstar7220]

This was probably your most controversial video yet. A lot of people definitely aren't going to agree with your assessment, but I respect how you took your feels out of situation and looked at the objective facts.

[@AngelaWorrell-m6y]

You took the words out of my mouth . I was extremely surprised by the words coming out of his mouth 😭

[@libeth1681]

I feel like he isn’t looking at this through the eyes of a care giver. It becomes your responsibility to always know what a child in your care is doing. At least you have to be conscious that they’re in a safe place. Am I being too harsh?

[@reneegardner2286]

I definitely disagree

[@InspiringNotionz]

If you ever have anything you don’t want to forget in a car, take off a shoe and leave it next to the item. I used to have a briefcase I’d have to put in the backseat on the way to work. I would forget it in the car a couple times a month till someone suggested the shoe trick.

[@goofygirl1311]

An older relative once gave my 12 month old peanut butter when I had expressly told them NOT to do so. The baby broke out in hives and I had to run him to the doctor. That relative never was allowed to be with my kids unsupervised again even though we maintained a good relationship. Some people simply do not have the judgement to entrust your children with and Tracey is certainly one of those people. I can not believe that this woman is a former school teacher and principal. That is just appalling to me.

[@rawsz4e]

Grandma being sent to prison serves as a deterrent to others who care for a child in a mindless unreasonabe senseless manner. If you take on the responsibilty to care for an infant you better know what you are doing.

[@JeffreyAllanBackowski]

Also probably makes a lot of grandparents think twice about accepting to have their grandkids dumped on them whenever their kid wants to go get their nails done.

[@friendlykiwi384]

If it was the script for a B grade horror movie you would be wondering ‘does she hate her daughter?’

[@thecastle09]

Bulllllllcrappp. I never forgot either of my sons in the car ever…nooooo..prison is punishment..grow up.

[@leiakiki]

Then you’re in the 75% who never did and not the 25% who have.

[@corpusdelectable6078]

You are spoiling us with the frequent uploads, Dr. Grande! As always, interesting, well-researched and sprinkled with deliciously witty barbs.

[@JeffreyAllanBackowski]

Yeah? Sounds like a load of crap. Why does "he" have so many cactus statues? I think it's code for "I'm really a biological woman and I wish I had a dong". Hail Lucifer!

[@exceptionaltalentspc4954]

If I am not mistaken this video had been uploaded about 3 times already. I was hoping Dr's view on this case had changed and that's why I decided to watch it again. A bit disappointed though.

[@ghostfields]

this is horrible. this woman needs to be punished.

[@connieamaya260]

I usually don’t nap while I’m babysitting my grandchildren😢

[@lisaadams6753]

I think this grandmother had some sort of underlying psychopathy. She subconsciously wanted the children dead somehow. How do we know the baby actually let himself out and crawled under the fence? Maybe there was a video? How come she didn’t call 911 right away? Also, how come it’s always a grandmother’s fault -where was the grandfather all this time? Grandpa left the baby with a napping grandma the first time. I’m so confused. I would say if you know that you already killed the baby you would be super super super extra careful with the second baby. I really think there’s something wrong with this woman. I think you’re being too generous.

[@ayndie38]

I agree. This is just too weird. Not to mention that she was creepily smiling in her mugshot.

[@ahitchcock6557]

I have to agree. Its a case like none I have ever followed. It is so unusual, that it is almost preposterous this actually happened. I would love to know the relationships between this mother and daughter. My gut instinct tells me there was something far more deeper going on within the family. And I'll leave it at that. I am 62, a female and in all of my years never forgot ANYTHING in my car going in, if I did, maybe a shopping bag? but it was immediate I remembered. How this woman came from a luncheon and had a baby everyone oohed and ahhed over and to think she left the baby for as long as she did, again seems preposterous!

[@AnyaAnnika67]

Are you a psychiatrist? I am. This is absolutely ludicrous and a poor show of your inductive reasoning ability. There's absolutely no evidence to suggest, as I'm sure a full psyche history was taken & collateral history, that she had an ASPD. I get sick of people throwing around terms like narcissism & psychopathy because they're in fashion when ironically they're relatively rare disorders. It's much more likely that she had an organic brain illness. Please spare a thought for those you're accusing (which is easy not to do as it doesn't affect you). This woman will already have to live with the guilt for the rest of her life.

[@hhjj621]

​@@AnyaAnnika67 Is there any evidence - i.e. you are aware of - she feels any guilt at all???

[@lisaadams6753]

@ it’s just a feeling. I tend to be empathic. I guess I would have to see her in action. You’re absolutely right people do throw those terms around me included. It’s just a deep feeling I have. I guess we’d have to see if she forgot other important things like she leaves her keys at the store, forgets to eat. I knew I was going out on a limb, and no, I’m not a psychiatrist. It’s just a feeling. Going off the pictures of her in the courtroom. Could be I’m triggered by something in my childhood. And how do I know that she’s grief stricken I don’t know anything. You clearly know more about this case than I do.

[@conorfitzmaurice8959]

A Young boy entered a competition, he came up with the idea of using rubber bands attached to the door of a car, on the inside to remind people they have a child in the car, think it's a great idea.

[@reneezavalia9522]

Many newer cars have an "alarm" you can turn on that beeps at you to check the backseat whe you get out of the car. I always left my purse with keys in the back because I heard one of the horror stories and was so paranoid, I wanted to take ever precaution...

[@Anabee3]

I SAW that! 😊. Great idea, indeed!

[@JeffreyAllanBackowski]

How the f*ck would that remind me of anything? If I'm braindead enough to forget my kid in the car I probably won't remember to put a rubber band on something.

[@MrDanny1145]

Interesting idea, although now technology have solved this problem with the "rear seat reminder" feature available on new cars.

[@aarondavis8943]

The strange thing in this case is that grandma had not had care over this child specifically because her daughter didn't trust her. So I would have thought the first opportunity to care for the child would have been notable enough that it wouldn't slip her mind. If you have such a fallible memory, shouldn't you make special preparations for accounting for lapses? Like setting reminders in her smartphone?

[@eurekahope5310]

💯 Drownings can happen in good families when an adult assumes another adult is watching, etc. But once an adult is the caregiver when child dies, I would expect that caregiver would become hyper vigilant. If I finally got to see my grandbaby, I would think my mind would be full of her and what we would do. In fact, maybe I am strange, but I would talk to my babies in the car and sing them songs. Even if baby fell asleep in the car, I am surprised she could forget her since it was such a rare, special occasion. I was guessing she was medicated and others commenters said they heard she was taking Ambien during the first incident. One would think she wouldn't repeat that horrible decision on the second, but it might explain her inability to focus on the most important thing.

[@glendaeden2501]

It was under her care that the first child died. Her daughter refused to allow her to care for her remaining children until she found herself in a situation where she had no other choice. A situation like that you would presume would make Tracy hyper vigilant, memory issues be damned. I would be terrified of anything happening let alone death. It makes me wonder what she was like as a teacher/principal. Did she have memory issues then or was this a recent development? I’m sorry I forgot your child at the zoo? I feel sorry for her daughter and son in law.

[@emilyh333]

Exactly! Clear neglect behavior to the kids from grandma in both cases!

[@hikingwiththedog6078]

It seems like the first incident happened because the grandfather left when his wife was asleep, knowing the toddler was there. If he had to leave, why didn't he wake her up? The first incident seems more his fault than hers. And I agree with Dr. Grande. That poor family, all of them!