Man Found Wrapped in Carpet After Going Wild on Business Trip | Nathan Millard Case Analysis

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[@DigitalNeb]

I just keep thinking about this guy's wife. She obviously loved him enough to stay with him through his struggles with drug abuse. Now she has to deal not only with his loss, but with the betrayal as well. That is so unfair. Wherever you are lady, I see what you had to go through, and I'm sorry for you. You deserve better.

[@Jersey1971]

And the embarrassment of it all she was left to clean up his mess

[@ozgal6929]

​@Christopher Moltisanti that's nasty and likely very untrue

[@lucassmith1886]

​@Christopher Moltisanti how old are you? 12?

[@shelliejones434]

​@@christophermoltisanti776commenters like you are the reason for arguments. I hope you are ignored for your comment. That's a completely biased and horrible thing to think

[@larbur9342]

@Christopher Moltisanti Hush, incel troll.

[@theuprising4847]

What a horrible thing for his wife to have to deal with.

[@jimcronin2043]

It is a shame that people with substance problems don't think of this aspect before they embark on their binges.

[@elhuddleston17]

And get more details on this video then she needed to know.

[@sc3ku]

@@jimcronin2043 often true, though many do think of others yet can’t stop the addiction train (a train they did start in the first place, yes). I’ve known addicts who definitely think of others, but the monkey on their back is too big a burden to overcome once it gets to a certain point. sad to see either way…

[@brianbagnall3029]

The only sympathy I feel is for the wife and kids. But in a way, maybe the wife is lucky. Now maybe she can lead a life with someone who actually cares for her.

[@valfletcher9285]

@@elhuddleston17 This has been on the news and social media SO MUCH for the past month - I am sure she does not watch all of it.

[@GenXfrom75]

My father had 7 failed attempts at sobriety before he succeeded. On June 12, 1992, I turned 17 and my father completed day 1 of recovery. This June, I'll be 48 and he achieves his 31st anniversary of sobriety. Addiction doesn't go away. You're either in recovery or actively addicted. It's like remission. It's so heartbreaking 💔 when addiction steals a life.

[@Golfing422]

I haven’t seen my dad since he died on 2/13/93. He failed over and over and it cost him his life and I’m 49 years old right now. It set a fine example of what not to do, yet I do meet people who shared similar experiences and behave almost as if they are trying to follow in the footsteps.

[@cn1800]

Thanks for sharing that story! Glad he’s sober and can show people that it can be done.

[@GenXfrom75]

@@Golfing422 I'm sorry your dad never got sober. I know my dad would've died had he not gotten sober. As long as there is life, there's still hope. I'm deeply sorry for your loss. I know so many people who still are in active addiction. Some I love very much. 💔

[@Golfing422]

@@GenXfrom75 It’s crazy how much he missed. Me and my sister were 18, the others 14 and 12 when he died. We always thought he’d make it for years. He died suddenly, aspirated in his sleep. My 14 yo system found him dead. It’s hurt me more than my sisters. Being a guy, I felt very alone all my life.

[@Golfing422]

@@GenXfrom75 thanks

[@LibraInSeattle]

I’m often reminded, as someone with 15 years of recovery this month that my addiction is like a watchful predator. It’s waiting patiently for me to become complacent with my program. To skip a few meetings, and not work with the newcomers. The minute I become complacent my addiction will be there ready and it’s not gotten weaker in 15 years. It has remained just as strong as it was when I got clean. I’ve seen it happen to many people. People with more time than I have get complacent and go back out either drinking or using and within a couple of weeks they’re right back where they were before they got sober. If not worse. My own sister was one of those people. She had 21 years of sobriety and went back to drinking. She died from alcoholism a year ago this past Thanksgiving. It’s a dangerous disease.

[@coolwater55]

🙏😓 I'm truly sorry. So much hope for all those years with your sister. God keep you strong! We barely had a glimmer of our sister - her former self- as she fell into drug use. She passed 2010 leaving a young daughter and now she has a daughter...the story goes on. It's excruciating to witness, but also excruciating to help over and over..damaging one's own family at times... I was glad when she passed, for her saje and ours...she couldn't manage fully paid top rehab facility. She akways left... She stole drugs from hospital under her tongue and sold them on the street. That was at the end when She was dying of cancer and they couldn't keep her in hospital... she went downhill quite fast. Our Mom feared her, she was in with dangerous people, but could not discern good from bad anymore. Mom was still devastated when she passed. Leaves scars that do not heal for some. I was the stable sister she ran to over and over, until I Said no ...as it was impacting my girls. I got her to go to counseling, didn't abandon her. Long stories...but my relationship with oldest daughter suffered after that. She impersonated me..didn't know until I applied for a teaching job and needed a criminal check.( After she died). My reputation was restored, after one year of getting a lawyer and finally they proved the police did not process her properly. Didn't take her fingerprints and actually believed her lies Never got an apology... It almost prevented me from being with oldest daughter when she had her first child in the U.S. The damages of the addicted person go on for life. Making amends really never happens for most, can't undo the past harms in many cases. It took years for me to forgive her. She died knowing she impersonated me and stole identity off another sister. The ones who helped her the most. And am helping her daughter for years....still am .the daughter had a child...she's an orphan...raising a child...it's been exhausting. But she's clean. Because our lives ( husband and I and other siblings) are normal, helping family who are sick or dying. And trying to create healthy atmosphere and good home for our own children and now grandchildren. My life has been a sea of helping, which is good to be there for family... But drugs..and the government mamby pambying to say its a disease ..nope. drugs alcohol are a choice. Period. I could say a lot more. Please stay sober for your sake and your loved ones...

[@London20258]

All the very best to you Patricia. Proud of you and grateful for your sobriety. Keep going girl!!

[@stefs3460]

So sorry for your loss😢

[@mattgrelee2199]

What was your drug of choice?

[@Brittany4sure]

Sorry to hear. Keep staying strong!

[@milliewoo337]

They say that a relapse is incredibly dangerous for an individual with a substance abuse problem, because after a period of sobriety their tolerance will be significantly lower than it was when they were last using, but the person will start using as heavily as they did before they quit not realizing that their body can’t handle it. It’s always a huge risk.

[@TadiKAT]

Absolute TRUTH.. my Brother did exactly that after 8 mos. Rehab.. got drunk, froze to death in the 1st Colorado Blizzard of Dec. 2010😢😢

[@kristyann9912]

That's when most die. Crack addicts seem to die when they quit after 40 or 50. It seems crack keeps people alive longer than if they quit at 40 plus their bodies seem to not be able to take it after 20 years of using crack. They seem to all have heart attacks. Never use alcohol if you are trying to stay clean. He was also a sex addict and that seems to be what killed him worse. The drug dealer sold him the door that killed him.That should be q murder charge.

[@alisonj9533]

Yep and takes twice as long or longer to get off again if you do at all. I haven't drank for 23 years and I wont ever believe anyone or trust them if they tell me "one is not going to hurt you!" I silently right them off as they don't give a damn about me I will not waste my time on them.

[@RaferJeffersonIII]

Thanks for the insight professor

[@maryu8328]

@@RaferJeffersonIII ? Thanks for unnecessary ‘tude Cpt.Crankypants

[@Robin-xt7yo]

How awful for his wife and 5 kids to find out he had a hidden, seedy side: hookers, drugs and getting so sht faced at a bar that he was kicked out.

[@johnschlottman619]

L O S E R

[@ruthokelley5833]

Oh, she knew…the kids know something was askew, just not how/what! The damage is deep and long lasting…ask anyone living or has lived in a family of drug and alcohol addiction! We think ‘they’ will quit or things will get better…things rarely improved, only deteriorated and finally complete disaster!

[@samjohns3227]

His wife obviously knew he had addiction problems, and I bet this kids did too...he only had 3 kids not 5.

[@Robin-xt7yo]

@@samjohns3227 Two are stepchildren from his wife. I didn't want to diminish what they are going through. Peace.

[@drbalbon7332]

We've all been there.

[@Traderjoe]

When you see buildings that look like the buildings shown here, do not go into them. When you see people who look like the people shown here, don’t associate with them. Don’t consume alcohol or take illegal drugs and if you follow these suggestions, you will live longer and healthier.

[@missbearlockholmes]

What you're saying is so true, but I still cackled uncontrollably when I read it.

[@dubaiedge]

Like it's so basic. God!

[@Ken-fh4jc]

Or just don’t hang out with blacks.

[@brightballoon]

People use drugs for pleasure, and most of all, to attempt continually to eliminate their pain. That's a damn noble cause. So, I think you're misunderstanding addiction. People using drugs aren't looking for trouble. They just want to be well and happy, and healthy.

[@Mia-tn5th]

The first lesson from this tragedy: DO NOT BLANK THAT BLANKING BLANK

[@sciencenotstigma9534]

💯! 😂. I think it would benefit kids more if they didn’t bleep correct words for substances.

[@defundhollywood3259]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nmc1859]

No..don't drink in excess is the 1st. And don't drink at all in unfamiliar areas or at all period imo

[@SeaBlue1976]

We all speaking like dr Grande over the years😂

[@amischair]

We love Dr. Grande!

[@ruthokelley5833]

Alcohol and drug abuse will rob a person of their humanity…pure and simple. Over my 83 yrs, I have seen it up close and personal. It is heartbreaking to watch family and friends destroy themselves and anyone else, that is too invested in them. This is sad story of a man who lost his way, and never found a way to overcome his addiction. My heart goes out to his loved ones who also suffered through his addiction and now his loss. ❤

[@beaulieuc8910]

I agree, it has always been like this. I've never understood people who are obsessed with drink and drugs and having no personal boundaries. I have never been into that type of lousy experience.

[@applepie9576]

Agree. An addict once said that when you're on drugs, "it erases your conscience."

[@mikelobrien]

Very well stated and I completely agree. People don't realize how dangerous substances can be, especially those substances that are "celebrated" by society. I have seen them change people for the worse physically, emotionally, and mentally and drag those within their orbit down into the toilet with them.

[@jackactu5741]

​@@beaulieuc8910 lol no no

[@lukespack]

I go to his family, not so much to him.

[@LEV1ATHYN]

Honestly, it shocks me what a grown man with 3 kids and a business can get up to on a business trip. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[@armandorey557]

He lacked spiritual maturity to be able to wisely administer the blessings that fell into his hands.

[@TheJohnbjunior]

I know! We've all done stupid stuff while drinking, myself including! Thank God not on that level!

[@coweatsman]

The shadow aspect that is part of everyone's personality and blows up in a poorly integrated person.

[@sarahholland2600]

It won't have been a one off. I worked in 80% male, massive investment banks for years. Married men often have a what she doesn't know wont hurt her thing re women & substances. They'd get their Prozac & Viagra delivered to the office.

[@dianevanderlinden3480]

@@sarahholland2600 I worked in an office where the guys joked about "stall 3" . It was the stall in the men's room where the cocaine was kept.

[@sleeplessinthecarolinas8118]

My heart breaks for Nathan's children. What a tragic story.

[@hhp2932]

They must be deeply ashamed.

[@NewAccountWhoDis]

Relapses are so deadly for addicts. They believe they can handle the same amount they did when they quit. Surviving a relapse is a blessing. A gift.

[@sciencenotstigma9534]

The brain requires the same amount to achieve the desired effect, even though your tolerance has gone down. I think when people are not getting high, they assume they can handle more. It takes longer for the nerve receptors to heal from addiction than it does to lose tolerance. I just read about this in my Psycholopharmacology 679 class. I wish all treatment centers taught clients the specifics, so they understand why you can’t trust your sense of what your limits are, in relapse. I wish everyone knew this…really, they should teach it in high schools. I hope some do, now.

[@TadiKAT]

Absolute TRUTH😢❤

[@applepie9576]

I feel for his family that his nefarious activities were brought to light. Not only do they have to deal with his death but the shock and shame of what he was doing away from home. It's probably not the first time he "went wild" when he was away on a business trip.

[@tracyking5945]

Addiction is a lifelong struggle, and many recovering addicts and alcoholics who attain sobriety experience cravings for the rest of their lives. Fighting off these cravings is an every day challenge. Thank you Dr. Grande for highlighting how a first sip of alcohol can be the most dangerous decision any addict can make. ❤️👍🌵🌷

[@sophiah1091]

Word! Real Talk! 💜

[@zenawarrior7442]

@@Mia-tn5th True. Addiction comes in many forms...TV, sex, alcohol, drugs, games, bad behaviors, lying...the list is endless. It can be hard to change but I'm a believer no one is doomed to be an "addict"....that's a label. I had a big problem with alcohol when I was younger, stopped drinking for 10 yrs once I decided no more, was a very easy choice. Now I can socially drink a few with no issues. Yes some folks need professional help to stop or can't recover once they've done too much damage unfortunately 😑🍸🎲💰💊⚰️or can't reprogram their mind away from the addiction.

[@thelostronin]

​@@zenawarrior7442 I disagree. Once an addict always an addict. Ive been sober for years now but I dont fool myself. I'm still an addict. Once an addict always an addict.

[@glow1815]

​@@zenawarrior7442 mindset

[@richardvinsen2385]

@@Mia-tn5th That’s not an addiction. It’s a lack of common sense.

[@bunnymad5049]

Oh, Nathan. So sad. So sad for his wife and loved ones.

[@holdencawffle626]

Ya. He has three kids too

[@joan-lisa-smith]

@@holdencawffle626 5 kids

[@marilynmccall2879]

​@@joan-lisa-smith 3 kids

[@joan-lisa-smith]

@@marilynmccall2879 "Millard had two sons, was a stepfather to two teenagers, and has a 7-year-old daughter."

[@dl733sak]

I believe the technical term for these types of people is, "Hot Mess".

[@defundhollywood3259]

I'm impressed you were able to comment without referencing skateboarding or Occupy Wall Street, Mr. Pole! Bravo! I take my beanie off to you, sir!

[@lynnehuff9659]

I shouldn't laugh

[@johnschlottman619]

More technical term: L O S E R S

[@dl733sak]

@@defundhollywood3259 it's complicated

[@jbrown8601]

💯

[@VerdictView]

I am born and raised in BR area. And the places that Nathan went to are very dangerous!! The Greyhound bus station at night?! His hotel was in downtown BR, which is relatively safe. But don’t go wondering around at night. It’s just like any other place at night. So he started off in decent area and ended up in the worst area possible.

[@TempleofAmon666]

Same here. I worked at the river center for 11 years. Downtown has a big homeless problem. While most were harmless it does make that area dangerous.

[@theconceptofmentalwellness355]

That’s what he was seeking

[@valfletcher9285]

Baton Rouge here too. There are people unfortunately that are all too happy to indulge anyone's sin with no regard to consequences...in this city and all over. Sad.

[@1chienandalou]

I reckon many a city has an area like this and this man was there conscious or not, RIP

[@shaun5047]

Also let’s be real here someone that looks like him looks like an easy meal to any criminal. They probably saw him and immediately figured we’re going milk this guy for every dollar. It’s so crazy that he put himself in such a dangerous situation.

[@elceenomoun8115]

Addiction is a lifelong struggle. Today's street drugs are so toxic. Wishing peace to his family. This is tough.

[@minnietrout814]

According to news reports, his hotel was on Scenic Highway in Baton Rouge which was a kinda seedy area when I lived there back in the 60’s-70’s. I can’t imagine that the area has improved. I’m glad the BRPD has looked further into this case. It smelled to high heaven, both literally and figuratively. I feel really sad for his family. Nathan didn’t fall off the wagon; he took a running leap off of it. Very sad.

[@wiffley]

I lived in Baton Rouge from 92 to 97 and Scenic Highway was lined with abandoned buildings. All the places he went were dangerous areas of the city. I mean, this man was slumming in a scary way.

[@troyverret2862]

I believe his hotel was in downtown Baton Rouge. The abandoned funeral home where his body was found was around scenic highway

[@zenawarrior7442]

Too much alcohol, drugs, prostitutes, homeless, seedy people. Strange case with so many terrible judgement calls. Great points again. Thanks Dr G😊💛💛

[@KnowzsPenge]

Looks like he was chasing it all...

[@scottricci5063]

WLM

[@zenawarrior7442]

@@KnowzsPenge Yes and none brought or ever brings peace or happiness. In his case ☠.

[@bthomson]

Hi Zena - Once a person's mind is affected by alcohol, they can seem to lose all inhibitions and sensible thinking! After that the worst of society seems to be just waiting for them. This is not fun but rather tragedy!

[@bbe3034]

This is so sad for his wife and children. It’s my understanding that part of town is very dangerous. Actually I can’t think of any downtown area I’d like to go. RIP Nathan.

[@nmc1859]

Yes very sad for his family

[@donotsupportterroristgroups]

I also feel sorry for the wife and children; I'm sure the wife had no idea that her husband lived such a dangerous and detrimental life. The outcome of his shenanigans was the best case scenario, he is not the type of man you want touching you or in your home.

[@KnowzsPenge]

He was cheating you clow, clearly didn't love his family that much.

[@lizzyliz9915]

@@KnowzsPenge Just curious; what is a Clow ?

[@jhoughjr1]

Um he didnt care that much if he was out fucking street walkers. Play stupid games.

[@Ordinary_Citizen]

Dr. Grande's ability to tell a story like this with a straight face is a remarkable achievement in itself.

[@sweetpeasouthernhome]

As someone that lives in the Baton Rouge area I’m here to tell you he was in the worst parts of town. Crime and drugs have overtaken the city. Police originally reported when his body was found wrapped in plastic and a rug there was “ no foul play suspected “ really?! Later the whole story was reported but my heart breaks for his family.

[@valfletcher9285]

I suspect his wife had to know something. No one can be THAT naive? Still feel bad for her and I feel bad for him - and so many others of every walk in life. I live in Baton Rouge. There are some very unsafe "holes" to fall into in this city. I am sure other places as well. Sad.

[@heathermunoz6282]

​@@valfletcher9285Huh?

[@alycewich4472]

@@valfletcher9285 If he was clean and sober for years, she might not have known or believed that he wasn't going to relapse. Addiction is a horrible disease, no matter what the substance.

[@valfletcher9285]

@@alycewich4472 yes

[@sbrooke210]

Who calls the police when someone doesn't show up to a 9 AM business meeting? That seems dramatic. What a disastrous mess of a life these druggies lead. And now what a complete embarrassment Nathan has become to his family.

[@sjohnson65456]

I thought the same thing about the client calling the police over a no show to a 9am meeting. Maybe he called the hotel after calling Nathan etc etc before calling police. 🤔

[@irairod5160]

I imagine the client witnessed, or knew of, the beginning of this man's wild night, and that he/she called his business partners and the hotel before calling the police. I would've done the same. In fact, I have.

[@r.c.l2569]

He knew he was in from out of town and Baton Rouge is deadly. It checks out. Anyone with any kind of sense would’ve done the same. Excluding the 17 up votes…lol.

[@pattycarol5191]

He knew what his city had to offer an out of town man possibly

[@Citizen1910]

He was from my hometown. We thought he was missing and murdered. So sad for the family when the truth was found out.

[@helpyourcattodrive]

What a sad story. Be careful everyone. Drugging and boozing is high risk. Watch out.

[@RealmCenter40]

Nathan is instantly dislikable just by seeing him in a photograph. I am a firm believer in always judging a book by its cover. That perspective has not let me down once over the course of 45 years.

[@abdelhamidhamidissa8912]

O believers! Intoxicants, gambling, idols, and drawing lots for decisions1 are all evil of Satan’s handiwork. So shun them so you may be successful. Quran 5:90

[@kaynemccully5266]

@@RealmCenter40 you know you are so right! I was just thinking of this a few days ago. But I would not trust my feeling, over and over again. Now I finally do trust my first opinion, and I have been right. I believe what people said don't judge a book by its cover. Ha! How wrong!!!

[@aquaqt853]

He's probably been a loser since high school and only got married because he had money. He looks annoying in his photos.

[@kategallagher5610]

It is always the first drink. 43 years in June of sobriety. I got sober at 20. Never have had a legal drink.

[@sbrooke210]

63 years ago the drinking age was 18

[@GenXfrom75]

My dad celebrates 31 years of sobriety on June 12. Glad you're sober and still with us. ❤

[@pwallace5359]

“I don’t blank with that blank” 😂 My husband and I we up at 2am replaying that part over and over again laughing historically! Thanks for the laughter Dr Grande. It’s been awhile since we got that tickled . My husband said that’s going to his new catch phrase when he doesn’t want to do something.😂 💛

[@defundhollywood3259]

My favourite part was the "Quote... Unquote." It made it sound like the guy literally said "blank with that blank" 🤣

[@aquaqt853]

How Dr. Grande managed to say it with such a straight face is what's histerical.

[@gossamer9966]

As a recovering addict my heart goes out to Nathan and his family. I think Nathan unfortunately was responsible for his death, though the other people there should have called 911 ultimately he was in that situation by his own choices. I am a Nathan. When I slip with alcohol I become hyper social and want to kick the party up as many notches as I can. Hearing his story help to remind me of what WILL happen if I relapse.

[@fiddleg8r]

Best of luck! Lean on God in the tough moments and He will protect you

[@jackiegrice714]

You know…what I wondered watching this was how many people are in situations similar to Nathan’s every day. Addiction is a risky business. Thanks for covering this Dr. Grande.

[@arinerm1331]

Addiction, whether to alcohol or to other drugs, can lead to tragic outcomes. One of my favorite people in the world explained it this way: "I don't want a drink. I want 10 drinks. Then I want 10 drinks after that." It was not a relapse that claimed John, but his passing was hard anyway.

[@peterliebezeit5636]

Like they say, 1 drink is too many, and 10 drinks isn’t enough

[@pfranks75]

This is a cautionary tale for people in recovery. I stopped drinking in 1993. I knew I had a problem with alcohol and stopped drinking by going to AA meetings. I witnessed people relapsing and it does seem ironic the longer the amount of time a person goes without drinking the greater the fall.

[@mysoutherngarden]

For him to behave like this with 5 kids was a horrible decision and it’s affected so many lives over one stupid night. It’s just amazing to think that he could have just gone back to the room and how different things would be. It’s one thing if you’re single and don’t have kids. If you’re a married man with children acting like this it is so selfish.

[@sngray11]

My heart goes out to his wife and children. Addiction and alcoholism destroys so many people’s lives. 💔

[@jaybanks1947]

His poor family. What a selfish man

[@sciencenotstigma9534]

Addiction is a neurological disorder. He was sick, not selfish.

[@barnagotte7297]

Addicts are not more or less selfish than anyone else. How uselessly judgmental.

[@Cinder_311]

​@@sciencenotstigma9534he was selfish

[@joettekanter7699]

Thank you for covering this case Dr. Grande! This happened in my area. I’m the General Manager of a hotel and when he was missing someone brought a flyer to my hotel with his picture on it and I knew it probably wouldn’t end well for him. I feel that he put himself in a bad situation, and I feel bad for his wife and children. 🙏🏻

[@barbarasterner7863]

The calm logic in Dr. Grande´s presentations is something I really appreciate in the era of hysteric outbursts that we live in!

[@jakepervine3341]

“I don’t blank with that blank” RELATABLE

[@deborahwinter5018]

Nothing good comes from drinking too much! That is a fact!

[@jonnnybfly]

It appears that Nathan had a closet, infrequent, out-of-town drug/party habit, and subsequently made a series of bad decisions in Baton Rouge, where he got himself into trouble by ingesting drugs of an unknown content, cut with adulterants, and sadly Nathan wound up overdosing and passing away at a local drug dealers' house. This was a terrible tragedy, but one that was totally preventable and unnecessary.

[@russiaprivjet]

can’t stop dudes from rockin

[@privard89]

Can't be out rockin anymore now that fentanyl is in everything.

[@scarlettphoenix7024]

@@privard89 It’s what’s cut into the fentanyl that’s killing people who get it on the street.

[@sciencenotstigma9534]

@@privard89 Truer words have never been said. I know that has kept me out of trouble, but I had a strong foundation of recovery before fentanyl was in 95% of everything (according to a Canadian study I don’t remember the citation for 😬). I don’t imagine it’s any better in the U.S. We need people in the recovery field more than ever!

[@markmike7933]

He should have gotten a bottle of JD at a store, called an escort service to bring girls to his home and called it a night. A BAD night, but at least not a deadly one

[@6thwatergateplumber]

The guy is slobbering drunk so I suppose just about anything could have come out of his lips while he could still use them. It's a sad thing when a husband/father has five adoring kids, and presumably a good wife, a home, and it's not enough in life.

[@annalisegiovanni7032]

Hey Dr. Grande😍 Happy to be here with you. As always, you're a blessing to insomniacs.

[@marie5701]

Night listener here… can’t even imagine “tuning in” during my intense, complicated day-light hours. I compartmentalize these nocturnal “hearings” and manage to relax even when topics are dark & tragic… 🤔 🙃

[@loiskondo8349]

Wow, one bad decision after another! Some people just don’t learn! Thanks for another interesting video Dr. Grande!

[@TrustMe55]

Also it’s dangerous to think just because you’re out of town on a business trip you have to have a wild time. God deliver us from evil and give us good common sense, So that we don’t succumb to our sinful nature. 🙏🏻hear our prayer dear Lord amen

[@Kimber-bz9fe]

How terribly sad. He wasn’t thinking & I have no idea how on earth he could have made these decisions to begin with. His poor family, what was only to 72hrs away turned into being him never returning home to his loved ones.

[@kisnhug6694]

How horrific, his death was. Sad for his wife and remaining family. Well, well, it goes to show you. You never really know what people are capable of, do you.😮 HE didn't care at all. Only his wants and needs. You get what you deserve. ❤

[@pamelastevens1609]

I have a suggestion - did you hear about that fool who live streamed a guy stabbing the father of a four year old to death at a Starbucks? The dad asked the guy to please not vape in front of his child, and the guy turned around and killed him for it. The worst part is the idiot who recorded the event was saying and doing the most cringy, stupid crap for views right in front of the child who just saw her dad murdered. I know if you saw it, Dr. Grande, you could do an excellent analysis of this event. I believe it just happened over the weekend. Thanks.

[@lynnehuff9659]

Welcome to 2023, really unbelieveable behavior. Oh yeah, let's tape this. What is wrong with people?

[@sleeplessinthecarolinas8118]

I saw that video and read the story. 😢

[@samjohns3227]

The person that filmed such an event should be in prison as well as the murderer..

[@rvrotter1]

We’re living ‘Black Mirror’!

[@christinehutchins123]

I admire his energy level ,some people just never stop...till they do

[@im__contributing]

just a reminder: he’s only speculating what could be happening in a situation like this

[@sauter1]

What a story. Reminds me of a classic movie with Griffin Dunne called After Hours, on what can happen when you mix with the 'late night weirdos' crowd.

[@phillumenistfilms]

Amazing film -- one of Scorsese's finest and what he has called his comeback project after dealing with a string of failed films and an addiction to cocaine.

[@aquaqt853]

Im old. It reminds me of the movie, Looking for Mr. Good Bar staring Diane Keaton and Richard Geere. She was a teacher by day and a nymphomaniac by night, that is, until she met the wrong male prostitute. She should have never blanked with that blank.

[@louisebelcher1497]

This is extremely sad for his loved ones to deal with. Condolences to them and I hope they find the peace they need to heal.

[@soph5669]

If my husband did this , I wouldn’t need condolences, I would immediately stop loving him therefore making it real easy to forget something so disgusting. There would be nothing to mourn

[@syvadcram]

Dumping the body behind a funeral home was very considerate of them though, even if it was defunct

[@stylesb959]

I bet he was a good guy sober. Reminds of my old friend Dave

[@bonnielee316]

I hear that some people who quit then start up again take their usual amount which is too much for a cleaned body and then overdose.

[@jamesoncross7494]

Amazing Nathan lived as long as he did. His wife and kids must be so proud.

[@Cyber_Kati_6744]

Bravo Dr. Grande! 👏 Proud Patreon Supporter Here! ❤ Tyvm for everything that you do! Have a wonderful night! 🙏

[@claudiabothma]

drugs- yet again! Also, there's a reason why as children we are taught not to talk to strangers. That 'house' is horrifying alone, so grim. Honestly, why do people start taking drugs? It never ends well....

[@jennymayd716]

Dr Grande, please answer todays question: Why do you not display your KZbin Play button award. 1.28 million subscribers is an astounding achievement. Big fan here. ❤

[@farrahfeathers6668]

Such a sad and preventable case. It’s like one drink or line is too much & multiple drinks & lines are not enough. Here in a small city in NY where I reside our local newspaper has warned of drug dealers adding horse tranquilizers with Fentanyl to the drugs that they are peddling. I can’t imagine the heartbreak that Nathan’s wife and children are having to deal with. Such a cautionary & sad story. Thank you Dr. Grande for breaking down all the blankety blank with such a stoic face.

[@valfletcher9285]

For there is no line long enough. That is the truth.

[@CommercialForest]

No f’s given. It’s like he had 4 hours to cram in every vice before the world ended. The drug dealer was thinking “homeboy has a real problem.”

[@Slayceos]

The most amazing part of this story is that anybody would want to be in Baton Rouge for longer than one day

[@TheRealMcCoyAndChipsAhoy]

0:46 realising he's wearing matching shirts

[@unowen9668]

His poor wife.

[@Robin-xt7yo]

and kids.

[@theresehopkins1581]

Driving around with a body in a carpet in the trunk..... now that's a sentence you don't hear everyday....

[@aprilcaricchio4690]

Poor man. As a grateful recovering alcoholic I know how common it is for people to relapse while traveling. Poor family.

[@d.awdreygore]

In South Africa we all have bars on the windows, it would be crazy not to. Walls, electric fences, alarms, private security, barred gates at the edge of the property and all doors. Some people even have barred gates inside the house to cut off the sleeping areas from the rest of the house.

[@wmluna381]

Bars inside the house is a new one. Wow.

[@d.awdreygore]

@@wmluna381 If you have a home invasion it buys you time to hit the panic button for private security (above the bed usually) and get a gun or whatever and hope that they don't think getting into the bedrooms is worth the hassle of breaking the gate. Most of us accept that we will have stuff stolen, that's just life here. But we want to do everything possible to avoid the physical violence.

[@wmluna381]

@@d.awdreygore Thanks for the extra details and insight. Make sense to do considering the heightened threat factor.

[@lynnehuff9659]

Wow, that's heavy, I've never heard of that last precaution.

[@TheJohnbjunior]

I bet guns are illegal also (except for criminals of coarse!)

[@Mpompadour]

This happened right here in my city of Baton Rouge. Sad and tragic.

[@kelleybutler9203]

It’s so destructive and devastating for the family, and what can make it worse is if a heroin addict is never found but is presumed and obviously deceased. I have a cousin Scott who we all know was at the end of his life, we all tried so hard and many times to get him help but he’d go and even complete some of the programs but would fall right back into heroin use. The entire family, friends and volunteers along with the sheriff’s dept. (it’s a rural area) we would all search because we knew basically where he’d go to hang out. Our grandmother is 97 and in relatively good health and I’d love to be able to find Scott so we could bury him beside his father, that would give our grandmother such comfort knowing he’s buried with family and not just bones n of a laying in some wooded area. That’s one of my nightly prayers 🙏🏼 so both our grandmother and the entire family can rest know he’s resting in peace with other deceased family members. It’s so sad to hear about any of these types of deaths because there’s so many family members left just devastated and wondering if there’s anything else you could have done.

[@irairod5160]

I hope with all my heart you find him. Sending you love!

[@Kyanzes]

Today's question is: can I like this video by Dr. Grande? I certainly can! Thank you for your analysis! - If we use "blank" as a substitute for swearing, how do we ask for something blank? "Give me a blank canvas..." "Sir, please don't swear here!" "What? I want a blank canvas!" "Sir, restrain yourself! Drop the blank!" "No, I mean blank-blank canvas... give it to me!" "Alrgiht... Nancy call the cops..."

[@jengable4888]

I heard about this a while ago, and figured he got entangled with two or more individuals. I did not know the full situation of the crime. It is a shame that his wife and children had to suffer. If he had just kept his nose clean, so to speak, he would had still been alive. It is sad when some individuals cannot handle their alcohol, and have a SUD.

[@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325]

As a family man, he should've gone straight to his room and Facetimed his wife Good night and gone to bed. And be back home in Georgia, by dinner time tomorrow. I bet he wished, he could've redone that. Rip

[@jamesjacocks6221]

The theme which plays in the addict's life view is that life is better and more exciting when intoxicated. Unless that theme is debunked and abandoned, fully and finally, that theme will pull the addict back into self-destructive behavior. Putting a behavior behind oneself is often not enough, and reinforcing anti-addiction decisions may not be as well. From my experience, only reason will work in the long pull. Reason, which is irrefutable and compelling. It could be based on the will to live or perhaps the love of family and friends. No AA, but a daily reminder of what is important and the risk of losing the same.

[@Kempy13]

to sell the car that quickly it must have been reduced to a fire-sale price

[@andreasrau2161]

Good evening, Dr. Grande! I had no idea that Baton Rouge was such a wild and crazy place! Thanks for sharing!

[@timprivett7015]

After Katrina, the dregs of New Orleans filtered into BR, Memphis, Houston, etc. Literal human filth. Would make a great sociology study!

[@vicvega3614]

New Orleans is even worse, then you got Mobile Alabama to the east which is also wild

[@valfletcher9285]

Baton Rouge was once wild and crazy in a fun way. Now it is just wild and eh...crazy...in a really bad way.

[@monicasmessages]

I appreciate you Dr. G. Thank you for addressing the dangers of alcoholism and relapse. 🌵

[@shelleysheffield7078]

I applaud and appreciate the respectful handling of the victim and his alcohol and drug addiction.

[@bcpr9812]

Dr. Grande, could you please analyze Letecia Stauch, stepmother and alleged murderer of 11-year-old Gannon Stauch? Her trial just began. There's plenty of evidence that shows off Letecia's sparkling personality.

[@dissidentfairy4264]

Imagine being Nathan's current wife and discovering her husband was not only dead but involved with sex workers before died. There must be a lot of conflicting emotions attached to that. For wife #1 it no doubt was confirmation that she had made the right decision and gotten out of her marriage to Nathan when she did. Regarding Derrick, he was either an opportunist or a killer. Regarding Nathan: He was a foolish risk-taker and a loser!

[@dissidentfairy4264]

When I say that Derrick was an opportunist or a killer, what I meant by that is we know he was caught using Nathan's credit cards after his death. What we don't know is if Derrick deliberately overdosed Nathan with the intent to rob him or whether it was Nathan who did it to himself.

[@dissidentfairy4264]

At this point, I'm thinking that Derrick deliberately overdosed Nathan with the intent to rob him. I say this because Nathan lived many years without managing to overdose himself. I'm not saying there isn't a first time, but, simple math works in this case. 1. This is the first time drug use killed Nathan. 2. Derrick was caught using Nathan's credit cards. 3. Nathan rolled him up in carpet and disposed of his body behind a funeral home no less. If Derrick was innocent why would he dispose of the body? Weren't they partying in an abandoned home? Why not leave the body there and flee? It would have been so much easier. Which makes me feel that Derrick did far more than he needed to do. Dishonest people feel the need to cover-up and often over-compensate for their crimes. The fact that he rolled Nathan up in a carpet and transported him to dispose of his body screams guilt to me. So in conclusion, I suggest that Derrick more than likely based on the facts that we know deliberately injected Nathan with more than enough drugs to kill him for the sole intent of robbing him.

[@hunterchristian8372]

How was Nathan a loser? He was a risk taker for sure, but the man had a family, a home, a successful lucrative sounding business... He's doing better than most of us are. He just made a mistake and relapsed.

[@dissidentfairy4264]

@@hunterchristian8372 Choosing to go to a prostitute when he had a wife is hardly a mistake. It's a wilful act.

[@fiddleg8r]

​@@hunterchristian8372he was an adulterer. No winner does that.

[@drummer78]

I had a buddy who had a white collar job and was seemingly straight laced. However, when he drank he would often go way overboard and then he’d go out to try and score coke. There were a few times when his wife would call me ti say he never came home and I’d have to go find him. There were a few times I would see the morning after a bender come stumbling through a parking lot holding a case of beer.

[@LittleBrownsFan63]

Awwww, RIP Nathan... Prayers To His Family And Friends...🙏

[@vincentperiolat4610]

Relapse is a stone cold killer. Sometimes quickly, more often slowly, it will either kill you or make you wish you were dead! It will be 12 years later this month since I felt compelled to take that drink, that 1st drink, that starts the dive back into insanity... Without the help of others who did the work before me, I was doomed. The program that can save you is not for the person who needs it, it's for the person that DOES it! Just do it. Nice one Doc, thanks! 👍✌️✊

[@TheScapegoat420]

Ahhh...I had a rough time in Camden and Philly when I was young. Never make that mistake again.

[@stevenbrucci]

Thank you, Dr. Grande. I'm going to have our architect redesign our windows. I hadn't realized that bars were the popular new look.

[@lookintothelightcarolanne4699]

Wow…this is tragic. It’s Nathan’s own fault he got himself killed. Had he gone back to his hotel room, this story wouldn’t be.

[@kellyyork3898]

I can’t remember what city it was in, but also somewhere in Georgia, a college professor was out drinking one night and pulled out his gun in a parking garage and walked up and shot a young girl who was just sitting in a car with her friends. Of course he went to jail. Claimed he didn’t really remember anything. Just weird how drinking affects some people…some people curl up and go to sleep, some people get sick, and go home, and some people just turn into a completely unrecognizable person doing things they never would do if they were sober.

[@keivajones1865]

Yeah that's the excuse he used. He meant to kill just needed the alcohol,s permission

[@greenatlmom]

Oh that was in Carrollton and he taught at West Georgia.

[@ghostfields]

Hey dr g. Always appreciate your thoughts and knowledge on things. Much love from NJ

[@alyssaheller7860]

Nathan was also an addict, but even he just used occasionally, i think it os important to remember that when someone is high, they make really bzd, illogical decisions. It is quite possible Nathan died accidentally (doing something he CHOSE to do) and quickly, and once he was dead, Nathan thought he would be in trouble and there was nothing to be done for someone who was dead. And addicts are DESPERATE for money. He may have just been too tempted to use nathans money since Nathan wouldnt be using it. People need to keep in mind that an addicts brain chemistry is different from the adduction. They are not uncaring, unfeeling people. But their brain operates, because of the chemical change, like the drug is the most important thing for survival of the next few minutes. Addiction is a treatable illness. And science and research had debunked the long-held belief that it is a character flaw/ moral weakness.

[@queenadventures4258]

It is not a character flaw but at some point you do have to take responsibility for actions and horendous affect that your behavior has on other people. Alcohol or drugs may be a reason someone behaves a certain way but it should NEVER be used as an excuse for someones behavior. You should never light a match and put youself on fire in order to keep someone warm. End of story..Period.

[@mtae5]

The coroner report stated when he was found, he had the biggest smile on his face you've ever seen.

[@gradyjones9678]

"I don't Blank with that Blank ..." Oh Dr. Grande You are funny 🤩

[@m.f.richardson1602]

Always interesting. I'm glad I like enjoying my own company. Thank you Peace 💕🇺🇲

[@joko09010]

This sounds like a Quentin Tarantino screenplay. I’ll definitely pay to see the movie when it comes out.

[@earlofcumbrae-Ground_Zero]

You are da 👑 Dr. Grande ! Top Content ! 💖

[@carolroberts8930]

Alcohol is a dangerous weapon. I just looked at some statistics, and there are about three times more deaths from alcohol per year than than from shootings. Deaths from drug overdose about same as alcohol. Alcohol and drugs are not considered weapons of mass destruction, but they cause as much if not more collateral damage. Thank you for covering this baffling case, Dr. Grande.

[@birdworldist]

Yesss king go off

[@franbenoit]

King?

[@privard89]

​@@franbenoitYes, King Grande. Leader of the cactus crew 🌵

[@birdworldist]

@@privard89 yess 🙌

[@wendybond2848]

Some people don’t seem to value life and realise how lucky they are. I feel sorry for his family and his parents.

[@truuvision678]

Addiction is a bitch. I want all of us to feel love. I love you all. ❤

[@truuvision678]

Also rip Nathan. A tortured soul. I hope he finds peace and is looking after his children from above. I feel the most for his little ones.

[@lildominicanbabygurl]

“I don’t blank with that blank” but the guy smoke’s crack cocaine 😂 Dr.Grande’s delivery is hilarious

[@adriengadson3544]

A Business trip into stupidity. It is impossible to cure stupidity!

[@janiekilkelly]

Poor man. Compelling story.