Mark Winger Case Analysis | Framing an Innocent Man for Murder

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Ah, wouldn't asking for a divorce be easier?

[@ParkS9321]

One would think, but...

[@nadiazahroon6573]

Divorce is too civilized. Murder is more in line with hate.

[@KoreaMojo]

He's having an affair, does bode well for compromising. He wants things most favorable for himself at that moment. Everyone else be damned.

[@MelanCholy2001]

I ....really think Deanne owns a bigger part of this than it seems. She dated a married man who wanted to kill his wife, with her help; he carried it out and she stayed quiet, then he married his nanny and had 3 kids so Deanne "gave him up" to the police. She could have *stopped* the murder (first one); she jumped in the sack with a known murderer; no wonder she wanted immunity! A "friend" of the hammered wife, who also seemed willing to let an innocent victim die with a murder rap until "guilt" crept in? 🤦 Plus he's so stupid. And then the nanny is stuck with 3 babies of a psycho, smh.

[@zensbleexperience3470]

I think ANYBODY who would marry their boss (if they were a nanny sorry) should be smart enough to know it's never going to work.

[@zensbleexperience3470]

@Annette Johnson maybe

[@moonstruck562]

@Annette Johnson not an excuse to allow an innocent person (whose marriage you're helping destroy) die tho

[@mitalimuralidhar6127]

in these couple of comments I just see a lot of blaming women for crimes another guy committed. lets remember that if it wasnt for her this dude wouldnt be in jail. this is just my opinion, cheers.

[@Catsss1017]

She knew the whole time and only came forward after he dumped her for the nanny. It explains a lot in different documentary

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Did he drink Duff beer? 🍺🍺🍺🍺

[@KoreaMojo]

You mean Grimes

[@erikparent8176]

@@KoreaMojo Ok, I recall the Duff man beer guy.🍺 Just assumed that's what homer drank. 😉

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[@georgehasleftthebuilding6621]

If it wasn't for the constant insistance by a rookie detective to re-review details in this case, this creep Mark might have actually gotten away with this heinous crime. The more experienced detectives made fun of this rookie for being over zealous 😤. I'm glad he stuck to his guns ( it was the treadmill story he doubted)......That poor young man and a new mother, prayers to both family.

[@Mountlougallops]

Wow, interesting. It’s not easy to go against groupthink, especially as a rookie in that work environment. Cool that he did the right thing.

[@georgehasleftthebuilding6621]

@@Mountlougallops right! That's why I wanted to give that rookie props. His partner at the time decided to try out his theory and turns out, the hubby wouldn't be able to hear the noises of the attack if the treadmill was really running. He gave the rookie all of credit too 🌟. He is now a lead detective. I like good endings.

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@@georgehasleftthebuilding6621 my question was going to be where the rookie is now. Cool 😎 justice prevailed because he was the right person to be doing his job so well. I’m thinking his fresh eyes as well as a lot of other good detecting qualities had a lot to do with it. I bet he’s willing to listen to his rookies too.

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This case is so infuriating because it wasn’t even a particularly convincing frame job. Like, don’t give a narcissist like that credit! He’ll think he’s Professor Moriarty or something

[@anonymousstrangeness7348]

It seems like he was certain that his intelligence was just so superior that he could easily get away with a perfect murder, so he didn't need to worry about being investigated as a suspect. He didn't realize his lies were not perfect.

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Almost!

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[@ChristinePerez903]

It is disturbing how someone could kill someone so violently they once loved. Great analysis Dr Grande!!

[@heathernikki5734]

He never loved her, obviously

[@kathleenreardon8943]

I don't think he EVER loved anyone. These kind of people can fake it real well.

[@christ3187]

I doubt he can even know what love is.

[@anonymousstrangeness7348]

@@christ3187 He only knew how to fake it. A person with no conscience thinks, "that's close enough."

[@bluecollarlit]

yes, he is living with this woman, probably said I love you many times, then one day he enters the room, picks up a hammer that's in there, and hits her in the head with it. Very hard to imagine.

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I remember this case and couldn't believe how diabolical the man could be. I'm glad he's in jail and I hope for the rest of his life.

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When I see people like this, with such a high level of callousness, I am very confused as to how they can sustain long term relationships to begin with. At some point this cold and callous personality must come to the surface, yet he managed to marry not once by twice! I think my point is, how can someone this callous “love” someone and even get into relationships such as marriage? I will probably never understand... Brilliant analysis as always Dr. Grande!❤️

[@emilyveale2805]

Yes I think it's so interesting, I'm sure he was very warm and charismatic at first, and I have no doubt the callousness would have emerged, but I think many people can spend a lot of time waiting for the wonderful person they first met to come back. You get so attached to the person's 'good' side that you can't bring yourself to accept their negative qualities. Also women are generally conditioned to be caregivers and give their partners the benefit of the doubt so I think there could be a lot of reasons why someone could end up staying with an abuser til it's too late, despite them openly shifting into their true selves during the relationship. Also found it hard to believe this guy could possibly be 'intelligent' given how many stupid mistakes he made with his crimes but maybe he was just so arrogant he underestimated everyone around him?

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We REALLY need more solid information on how to recognize these people. His wife did not know. Clearly his second wife didn't either.

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@@thekurtcobainfoundation4200 It's unbearable to me how many of these innocent women end up murdered. Most people will imagine they would know better, or that the women should have known better, or something. Whistling in the dark! I want to know.

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@@AmyCeleste I feel I need much more insight. I know I am not a great judge of character. Well, actually, my instincts are excellent, but I will talk myself out of them all the time. I don't know why I do that. :/

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@@AmyCeleste Also, there were four children in this picture. What happened to them?

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@@l.w.paradis2108 20/20 did an interview of the second wife recently. Some of the kids talk to him and some don't. The first girl who was adopted her story is sad.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@@AmyCeleste That's great, good for you! This has been my worst problem by far. My parents stressed too much getting along with everyone in the context of work, but they were immigrants and had a bright line between work and other facets of life. They did not grasp that the line is quite blurred in American culture. I talk myself out of my intuition all the time, and that is never the right answer. May I ask what type of counseling you got?

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[@mrs.reluctant4095]

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[@Cello-Pam]

I dont think he was accused yet bc the police still thought the Roger guy did it

[@jonnylumberjack6223]

If she knew about the allegations, I'd categorise her as a fucking idiot. A harsh but fair appraisal I'd say :) In this case, she didn't know - he was a grieving husband who had suffered a terrible loss as far as she knew. She was also very young.

[@chrissyellem7397]

She didn't know he was just a widower to her. Mark is the one that got himself caught. He wouldn't leave the police alone. The case was closed quickly and the other man was blamed. But Mark HAD to know and kept bugging the police asking for his gun back etc. He did himself in.

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The case of Charles Stuart would be interesting.

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[@joycemarie9702]

I live n the Boston area and remember when he killed his wife and unborn son. I had 2 boys aged 4 and 5 at that time and was truly horrified by the senseless murder of a beautiful young, pregnant woman who was murdered after a Lamaze class. I didn’t believe his story at all !!! There was something about him that just felt off ….I wish they had arrested him before he was able to kill him self! He deserved to suffer in prison for the rest of his life!!! When I hear about other Murderers like Scott Peterson , Chris Watts and other husbands that kill their pregnant wives and children, I always think back to Charles Stuart …..so many horrible, senseless , disgusting , tragic murders! What makes these men do it???

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[@charq52]

Dr., you left out a bunch of the story: he remarried the nanny he had hired to watch after the baby after he murdered his wife. They had 3 more children. She thought they had the perfect life until a chance meeting with Deanne, years later. THEN Deanne went to the police. After his conviction, the wife and kids all changed their last names and have nothing to do with him. But, thanks to the nanny/mom all the kids are doing well.

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This one struck me as a case where he could have gotten away with it. I wonder if Harrington really said those bizarre things. Was this corroborated in someway or could it all have come from Winger?

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Bailey was only 3 months old when Donna and Roger were killed..and Deanne wasn’t just supposed to be a friend she was considered her best friend and Aunt Deanna to baby Bailey.

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I thought Winger got caught because he tried to sue the shuttle bus company and they fought it and investigated further.

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It was greed that made him want to do it

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Sorry, I think I've brought our doctor unintentionally in an uncomfortable position with my last comment. Deleted it. I know this case (which is not too often with cases featured in this channel) and I think it is rather the top of an iceberg of a tendency in society that people with more severe mental illness are utilized by so called normal people.

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[@AmusedChild]

It doesn't sound like this sociopath was too bright, not thinking all these "suicides" would look suspicious to authorities.

[@blindeyeshater]

He married a nanny and not the mistress?! So,that’s why the mistress went to the police! She is absolutely horrible. He was mentioning killing his wife and she didn’t care. But then he gets with someone else and now she’s a concerned citizen. Unbelievable and sad.

[@tecumsehcristero]

Does any know if Roger actually said that stuff to Mark's wife or is that information from Mark?

[@l.w.paradis2108]

She apparently reported it spontaneously when she got home from the trip, when Roger was her driver. She wrote it down voluntarily.

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@@l.w.paradis2108 I wonder about her reaction when he was invited over......

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Hey Dr. Grande, I love your videos! As a baseball fan, could you consider reviewing the allegations against dodgers pitcher Trevor Bauer? There isn't a whole lot of evidence out yet (I think it's mainly text messages), but it would be interesting (maybe it could be something you cover in a few months, only after all the evidence is presented and decisions are made)

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SNL skit. Doc G never stops his analysis….. wakes up, analyze, breakfast, analyze, all day, everywhere, never stops :). Gently falls asleep as analysis fades into silence and into our subconscious.

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Wait a minute... He lived in Springfield and was a nuclear plant technician?! That's Homer Simpson we're talking about!! 🤪

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Thanks for the video brother ❤ love from sweden

[@tdali8347]

Roger started moaning while Mark was on the phone with police, which caused Mark to claim a crying baby, hang up, & shoot Roger again. But Dr. Grande is 100% correct that the cool move would have been to let the cops hear the noises and believe Zombie Roger was making another move so of course Mark had to shoot him in the head a second time. More than any other modern "family annihilator", Mark reminds me of John List who simply moved across the country, changed his name, and remarried after killing his sickly mother, his wife & their 3 children.

[@tartnouveau3652]

I really think Deanne only turned Mark in because he married someone else and not her. I don’t think she had any really guilt about Donna dying…a lot of what he said to her made it obvious that he was intending to kill her and that he did kill her.

[@methodinsane]

Hi Dr. Grande. Love your channel. Would you consider covering the murder of a famous French woman called Sophie Toscan du Plantier in West Cork, Ireland in 1996? It's a hot topic right now; at the moment there is a Sky Crime show by the director Jim Sheridan, and a Netflix Show, as well as an Audible production from a few years back. If you haven't heard about it, the person thought to have done it, Englishman Ian Bailey, was not prosecuted in Ireland due to lack of solid evidence but was trialed in-absentia and found guilty, in France in 2020. He is an interesting character to say the least. As an Irish person with ties to West Cork I'd love to see this covered as it's a fascinating and sad case - we don't get that many murders of this kind here in Ireland, typically murders here are gang related in the big cities. Thanks.