.223 From a 5.56 Chambered AR-15! Is There a Difference? 100 Yard Accuracy Group Testing!

Testing a few different .223 ammo weights in a Ruger MPR AR-15 chambered in 5.56. How does it compare to 5.56 from the same rifle? I guess we wont be able to test this anymore after the "Assault Weapons" ban.🤣🤣🤣 Frontier, Hornady, PMC X-Tac, Winchester, PPU, Sierra.
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[@jeffray6197]

Interesting test! Been curious about 223 in my Ar NATO 556. Thank you for sharing, as always!! Stay safe brother!!🇺🇸👍🏻

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@seanomeirs8362]

Great video. Those groups are respectable. I like to season my barrel with 60-100 rounds of the same ammo, before it reaches an equilibrium for maximum potential accuracy. Tiborasaurus Rex gave me the idea, and with 1 of my rifles, it likes 55, 62, 69, 75 and 77g about the same. The Live stream last night was a good time. I think that you have a great attitude and subscribers. Stay awesome. Also, you got me looking at the ton of .410 slugs that I bought years ago, but forgot about. $4.45 for a box of 25 shells, with 1/5 oz slugs, and #6 shot. Western Super X.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate you hangin out in the live! I'd buy a pickup truck full of em for that price now.😆😆😆

[@jbfiveash636]

Are you selling any 410 slugs?

[@seanomeirs8362]

@@jbfiveash636 I'd give you some if you were a neighbor, but I am still thinking of getting a Taurus Raging Judge to use with my 45 colt ammo, and pick up some 454 casull for that special occasion.

[@earlmorrison8163]

Thanks for the video and great live screen last night , but I couldn't hang with the big guns !! Thanks again !! Keep'em comin !!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate you hangin out!

[@YellowHammer26]

Thanks for the test tools, really enjoy the stuff you put out and your livestream was really great. 👍👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

thank you sir. Appreciate you hangin out!

[@keithrichardson4333]

I've done some accuracy experimenting with 233 and 556 ammo. What I found was that in my particular rifle, which has a 556 chamber, accuracy with each was pretty much the same. Like I commented on in your last video it comes down to the individual arm. So it's always best to test ammo. Awesome video.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thanks again, brother!

[@omarmendez4003]

I have a ar stoner 556 barrel 7.5” I only shot 60rd of 556 with it & the bullets we’re going really high, i need to zero in my reddot, I want the 7.5” only to use 556 & other barrels will use 223

[@jamespollard1670]

I always sighted my AR's about 2 inch low at 25 and they were on at 100 . I never noticed much difference in 223 and 5.56 ammo , at least at 100 .

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, I gotta get this rezeroed at 100. I had it at 50 from when I first sighted it in.

[@stevenkennedy4130]

I've always wondered what the difference is between PMC 223 and 5.56. (55 grain.) I've noticed some companies, like Winchester, have the same FPS on both types of ammunition. And as always, thanks for the share!!

[@HeartsOfDarkness]

Interesting results. Gave me confidence in my choice of .223 as well as the results I’ve gotten with it. The live stream last night into this morning was a home run. The energy in the live chat was great. Your responses and commentary were really well received. Can’t wait to attend another at the Church of Tools & Targets.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆😆😆 Appreciate you, brother!

[@BrwnShinobi]

Every time I'm lookin for a test, you have it! Thank you!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@georgewacaser4559]

I enjoy these comparison tests of different loads. Would like to see more of this kind of test videos.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Absolutely plan to do some more.

[@josephpacchetti5997]

You said on last nights live feed that you were going to do more rifle tests, And you did, Thanks T&T 👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

You know I got plenty more pistol ones comin though!😜 Appreciate you!

[@josephpacchetti5997]

@@ToolsandTargets And I'll be there to watch them. 👍

[@shadowwolf2524]

Another good test Brother. I did 6 years enlisted in my local Army National Guard Field Artillery Unit during the 80's. Of course we only fired 5.56. We had the old M-16A1'S and used 55gr FMJ. I just recently picked up my 1st AR-15. It's a S&W M&P model. I've got around 500 round put back for it. Mainly IMI 62gr green tip, IMI 55gr FMJ and some Winchester 55gr FMJ. All of it is 5.56. I've never fired .223 through it. As long as I can get 5.56 I'll stick with it. But if I come across any deals on .223, I'd sure buy it up and put it back for a rainy day.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I usually sling whichever I got within reach from my AR's. If it hits minute of man, I'm good with it.

[@jardinero9112]

Thank you Nice rifle round test

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎

[@MitchC357]

Very informative. Always wondered if there was a difference.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@scarifrougeone7225]

Hi Tools. My pick was the 69gr. PPU. Before I watched the video. That MPR Tool is very nice, it is a good shooter brother. Really like the different bullet weights you are testing that’s a good range of weights. I have a Remington 700BDL in .223 it is a tack driver super accurate and cuts bullet holes. Great video. Keep up the good work and be safe and have a good week.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. There's a 700 SPS Tactical in stock locally, chambered in .308 that I think is gonna be coming home with me soon. I can't resist.😆

[@scarifrougeone7225]

@@ToolsandTargets 700SPS S-W-E-E-T Tool there buddy. That is nice 😎⭐️. That .22 Magnum Henry pump is calling out to me.

[@danielmatthews3420]

Another great video thank you!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@chretired]

Good video Tools. I noticed the note you threw up on the screen about the zeroing being at 50 yrds so the groups at 100 yards under those conditions were respectable. You might get a few sheets of those round orange stickers to make it easier to see the circles at distance. I've seen you shot enough to know you can shoot just fine. Again thank you for all you do, the planning, the time & effort to set up the equipment, the filming and then the editing. Be safe, be vigilant and have a great week.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that, brother!😎👊

[@charleywalker2982]

Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely more to come!

[@robertharing7031]

It’s good to see you shoot an AR .It makes sense if you zeroed at 50 but for 223 in my opinion was decent for a 100 yards my 1:7 twist is similar with 223

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, they were all well within minute of man.😎👍

[@dietrichjohnson9556]

If you wanted to go towards a different gun for 223 I would just build/by an upper with the same length barrel But really this is where the 223 Wylde chamber comes into play. Even though 223 can be shot in 556 chambered rifle it won't be as accurate. Thats where the 223 wylde will let you shoot both and get equal accuracy. Keep up the good work.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎

[@frankbrowning328]

That would make a great video series. 223 Wilde chamber vs a 5.56mm chamber both shooting 223 ammo of different weights, velocities, etc. 3) 223 Wilde chambered guns against 3) 5.56mm chambered guns all firing 223 ammo. However, the cost of ammo today may make that a pricey proposition

[@danielmatthews3420]

Thanks

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@CookieMonster_1969]

I've not shot anything but ball ammo so far, so I am appreciating these tests.👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

The beauty of a 5.56 AR is there's really no "bad" ammo option.😎👊

[@CookieMonster_1969]

@@ToolsandTargets I am starting to realize that.👍😁

[@slickdazzler7330]

I think they did okay 👍. You even saved every one of those paper plates for another test. 😎

[@ToolsandTargets]

I used those for dinner!

[@dragonrider385]

Thank you for the video. I have a bolt action 5.56 and it seems to like 69 grain .223 the best so far. I am still looking for some 69 gran 5.56 to try in it. 👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

Interesting.

[@Donald_R_DeCicco]

I appreciate all the data on these different loads and weights. Always wondered if there would be a major deviation due to the chambering difference. I myself prefer the 223wylde. Was thinkn maybe you could get a dedicated 223 clone upper and just swap it out.😎

[@ToolsandTargets]

I'm thinking about slapping together a .223 Wylde chambered rifle.

[@danielrodriguez5463]

I was excited to have my girlfriend come out to shoot the AR 15 at 100 yards and wanted an example of decent groups Ans here I found the ideal video from the nicest guy on KZbin 💪👏👏👏

[@ToolsandTargets]

Have fun, my friend!😎👊

[@frank6029]

Very nice test Thanks Tools Stay Safe and God Bless 🙏🙏

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@jamesmikesell5458]

Yes it would be interesting to see the bolt vs ar I also have both

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@billdye3530]

If you color in the circle with the Sharpie it's easier to concentrate on at 100yds. If you pick up a bolt gun there are a lot of choices but for the money a Ruger American is hard to beat especially with at least a 16x scope. Tiny holes are hard to see at 100yds. Good comparison of light vs heavy weight.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely gonna be slapping on some more zooms asap!

[@billdye3530]

@@ToolsandTargets Aged eyes cause issues. Up to about age 35 yrs old a 3x9 scope was good then it was 12x to 16x. Now 24x & higher power. Those 22 caliber holes got smaller as I got older. 👀 👓😂

[@billdye3530]

@@ToolsandTargets During your Live you mentioned not having a 92. GOG had ad & good prices on the Girsan Regard/optic & the Taurus/ rebate. Popped up just awhile ago. 👍

[@sharoncoleman4742]

Lots of love from the 2 a cumunity may have to walk down on scope and pick which cartridge you like best for that rifle. Great job just my opinion .

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that.😎👍

[@TarikAkleh]

I was going to suggest a comparison with these same rounds using a .223 chambered barrel prior to you mentioning it at the end. Would be very interesting to see those results... thanks brother!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@randyadams03]

Thanks again Bill for the ammo. I still need to get all 8 types 223/556 and do a test in my 24" 1/7 rifle and 16" 1/9 Wylde. My choice 69 too. Thanks Tools

[@randyadams03]

The scope on my 24" is 6x24x50. Was affordable. Yup a little more magnification maybe. 16" has Pinty cheap 2x8.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊 Appreciate you hangin out in the live!

[@billdye3530]

I only send Tools my old ammo that is about to go past the expiration date or is that a Use By date?😂 If we keep him busy he stays out of his wife's kitchen. 👌 👍

[@Dwayne7834]

Good video my ar favor 60-70 grain. Mine is 1/8 twist thanks for the video.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@thomasreece3903]

Yes it would be interesting to compare a bolt action to an a r platform. If you could.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@rugeral7157]

Very interesting As usual Tools keep up the good work🇺🇸👍👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@billdubois5223]

Another great video Brotha ..

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate you!😎👊

[@ogbobbye]

you should think about picking up a cheap Spotting Scope I got one at Harbor Freight for like 50 dollars. it is good at well over 100 yds. to let you see where you are hitting. really great if you have a friend shooting with you so you can call every shot for each other and when you are shooting alone like you do it can save you a lot of walking and ammo. Binoculars work too that's what we use to use, but I like the spotting scope much better now that I have one.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, my binoculars do the job with the shootNsee type targets, but I could definitely use a spotting scope to see hits on stuff like these plates that are harder to see.

[@billsummy2412]

AWESOME video pard :)

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@paulavery2561]

Sure will be waiting for you do a review on that Federal 22 magnum punch out of a rifle. Thanks

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely have that planned.😎👍

[@randlerichardson5826]

Great video Tools be safe and GOD BLESS y’all buddy Amen 🙏

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@spaceghost17]

I use a bingo marker to mark my plates in the center (more visible)... Thanks for the tests!

[@ToolsandTargets]

That's a great idea. 😎👍

[@Cimino1138]

Loved it thank you 🤘🏻

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that!

[@Cimino1138]

@@ToolsandTargets I noticed with a 50 yard zero the higher targets tend to have a higher POI than if the target was lower. It’s strange but on a bench at 100 yards the lower target always had better groups then the higher ones. Might just be me. Same ammo type.

[@ToolsandTargets]

@@Cimino1138 Interesting 🤔

[@hamacus]

Good stuff tools!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@truthhurts7836]

Not the best groupings but still good comparison. Another great video keep them coming

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👍

[@xforce708]

At least you have plates for dinner. 😂🤣😂🤣😘

[@robertwess4556]

Cool video good job

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎

[@308guy8]

I like the 223 wylde in 1in 8 seems to be the sweet spot for me

[@ToolsandTargets]

🤔🤔🤔

[@rontate7719]

Caught this just now 8.26.2022 1414 cst . Ha. Very good .. Was looking for the Thurdays updates etc ,, 😮

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate ya checkin it out, my friend!

[@Nutty.357]

Whew be hard to see that for sure! lol! Can that scope adjust focus? Sure be hard to see that small circle in the shade no doubt! Good groups for shooting blind haha! I am learning AR stuff! I would be happy with that! Have a good one!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, it has a focus adjustment but that aint enough at 8X to compensate for my crappy vision.😆😆😆

[@guardianminifarm8005]

I am sure you, that rifle & most of these offerings are much better than this particular range day. Thank you. But a good 223 bolt would be a good tool to have in the box.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely.😎👍

[@rottiesrule5285]

lol..yeah a 50 yd. zero could make a little bit of a difference at 100 yds. still not real bad groups..the 77 gr. kinda surprised me i didn't think they would goup that well...this was a good test and yes i'd be interested in knowing what a true 223 would group as compared to the 556..oh yeah ..great to see you back on a live chat last nite..been too long

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate you!

[@michaelvazquez261]

They say the first thing to go is your memory when you get older.....LOL 😃. Great video

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆😆😆

[@nativepride187]

Nice shooting video sir

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you brother!

[@MidwesternOutdoors01]

Yessir❤️ love the AR stuff

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@jeffreyrobertson7652]

Another great video Tools Stay Safe Stay 2A Strong 🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@fluffy10mmjeepguy92]

Dang to bad I wasn't closer I have a Ruger predator in 223 you could use good video as always.👍🤙

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nice, Thank you sir!

[@jeffb5733]

My ar15 in 556 does not like most 223 ammo. It's like the round wobbles when it comes out the barrel. They hit the target key holing . 5.56 dead center shots. No key holes. But thanks for video.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@B_R_]

😂

[@johnpoole8321]

6-8 power should be fine for 100 yds. Not sure if it's the same gun as last time but it's still shooting ok groups but 5" or so high just like last time. Pretty wild how a 50 yd zero changes to 5 or 6 inches high @ 100. That seems like my biggest take from it.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yep. Definitely makes a big difference.

[@Bob-lq9ys]

If you was closer I would let you use my savage model 10 predator , those 55 grain would be doing 1/4 to 3/8ths groups , great video , Thanks

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I might have to see what my local shop has in .223.

[@StagArmslower]

My Howa 1500 on Boyd bedded stock does the same

[@1erinjames]

The 10 round mags sure de-masculate a rifle. Almost cried when i put one in mine.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😂😂😂 It does make em look goofy. They're a lot easier to manipulate in this lead sled, even though it has the split frame for full size ones.

[@1erinjames]

@@ToolsandTargets i figured the sled was your reasoning seeing that a typical mag would be too long. Still, 1st thing i noticed but only cuz the commies have taken over my state. Argh. 30 or 10 makes no real difference to me. I can still hit what needs punchin!!

[@seanomeirs8362]

Get some 30 round mags, limited to 10. I like to have 10, 20, and thirty, for getting low, or from inside a car.

[@alecubudulecu]

@@ToolsandTargetsI actually prefer running 10 rounders. For home defense and competition we use 30. But at range for PRS stuff we like the sleek simple 10 rounders. Light and easy to manipulate

[@balancedfordaylight1]

we gonna see any rifle/shotgun jelly tests?? home defense vs hunting distances with some rifle soft points would be interesting to see.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely. I have quite a few defensive type rifle rounds in different calibers. I've got a shotgun one that I gotta get done this week too.😎👍

[@ronaldbarnes8302]

A 223 chambered barrel will probably be more accurate in my experience. Not bad groups from an ar with 8 power glass and less than optimal lighting conditions. Thanks for sharing Tools!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@alexkurtz5241]

If you were shooting at a 300 yd target that would be in the penny area. Drop your elevation to 50 meters. My Dope runs a little high on my M&P 15 Sport 2 at 100 yards. Hollow point boat tail doesn’t perform until after 3 to 400 yards. Also could you give some velocity’s and how bullet penetrates at long range. Thanks in advance Shooter.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Roger that. I had this rifle zeroed at 50 from a little while back. I can definitely set up a chrono for these.😎👍

[@Swampytheroot]

Nice presentation. How about buying sheets of bright orange dots, several sizes available, at Staples? Makes it a lot easier to see, at least for my eyes. That 77gr SMK is an absolute demon in the IMI RazorCore Match load. Tight groups at 500 for me. I've seen people keep it tight to 700 yards. I'm not that good and can't see that far with a 40x varmint scope. I bought CZ bolt rifles years ago to test the ' inherent accuracy' of 223, 6.5G and 7.62x39 rounds I was using. It's a flawed way to do things, but it's what I can up with. Was tired of different ARs throwing different rounds all catywampus.

[@charlesmorgan1879]

Nice test ! Maybe do a zero test , lol. Good live stream ! Not sure when I bowed out but I get up early every day...

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate you!

[@joemokrzycki2006]

I’m just getting into the Ar and Ak game so these are great vids for me

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@buddrinkerdrinks]

I see you using those ear buds...are those the same ones you have a link for down below? an do they really work, i ask because i was a sonar operator on planes back during the cold war. lots of time spent in that tube, then a carrier tour too. so i have some hearing loss, an i have to protect whats left.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir, it's the same ones. These things are incredibly nice. I couldn't live without them at this point for shooting. It suppresses sound from anything I've used them with so far, even with big obnoxious brakes like the X Frames.

[@buddrinkerdrinks]

your question about last night classic rifle test...i was asking if you could break out the old lever action 73 an 94 models.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Ahhh. I actually don't have any really old lever actions. All my levers are new stuff.

[@tommyofthehillpeople]

Try a 36 yard zero for the AR. 25-300 yards should be inside 6 inches combined. That 1-8 should be plenty at 100. Maybe just the lighting in the shadows is messing your vision up. Always like the videos. Id go with the 69gr. Have a good one tools.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. My vision just sucks so I buy bigger tv's and scopes to "fix" it.😆😆😆

[@tommyofthehillpeople]

@@ToolsandTargets Well maybe you need to dig up one of those coffee cans full of cash and buy one of the top tier scopes with perfect glass and tracking and 5-25x or 6-36x magnification. 🤣 Hey, my eyes and ears arent what they used to be. Good glass helps. Not my ears, but you know what i mean. 😆 🤓

[@joemorganeatmyshortschannel]

556 pressure is supposed to go faster and also have crimped primer pockets and annealed brass along with other stuff I buy it over the 223 seems more consistent for two legged pests

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥💨

[@joemorganeatmyshortschannel]

@@ToolsandTargets i did get some of that frontier 223 to test and its advertised velocity is within range of 556 and its annealed so might be good stuff

[@kenworland1865]

I had a Weatherby in .223, it was really something!!! Had...😖

[@ToolsandTargets]

😣😣😣

[@chrisgabbert658]

👍😊🎯 there a little high but my rifle hits high at a 100 tho I know it does to work out right with the 200+ trajectory in my scope.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, I actually zeroed this at 50 a while back on the other side of my range when I first got it I need to rezero at 100.

[@chrisgabbert658]

@@ToolsandTargets there always a 3.5 to 4” rise and fall till it’s all fall.

[@jackpualder1522]

reminds me of my shooting sessions LOL

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆😆😆

[@lorenharrison8580]

Hey Tools, Have you ever cronoed 556 or 223 to see how close the boxes stats are?

[@ToolsandTargets]

Not really. I'll have to set the chrono up for the next ones.😎👍

[@patriks_surplus_kitchen5251]

Hi, Great Video and Greetings From Austria. My MPR (Same 18" but with the fancy Flag painting + Vortex strike eagle 1-8x24 BDC3 LPVO) loves the GGG M193 55gr from Lithuania. With that ammo i can do about 1 - 1.4" isch groups at a 100 meter. Next best is with S&B .223 55gr about 1.2 - 1.6" isch I also tryed geco .223 DTX 55gr very simmilar with the S&B. AGUILA .223 55gr going 1.4 to 2" isch. SO I wonder why your rifle shoots that high and a bit less accurat than mine. Also a buddy from a frind has the same setup than me besides his is the classic black color one and has the same Results than me. So I recommend cecking the "Muzzle Break" if there are any Burrs / metal shavings left... In my case there was a lot from the Factory left and had to clean them ... 2nd option is the Scope? I like UTG but i only use them on my .22LR stuff ^^ I love the Vortex optic for what i can do with it and it makes it very easy even for longer Disances. Just recently tryed it from 200 up to about 500 meters on full sized USPSA/ IDPA maybe 2/3 size... can't tell for sure. BUT i can say i hit them at least 8 times out of 10 if i did my part. Keep the good content coming. Have a good one. PS: have to try other stuff like 63 / 69 gr or 75 / 77gr in the next Months or so to se what mine like the best.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. The high impacts were from me having it zeroed at 50 yards. I'm definitely gonna be swapping optics on it and trying some more rounds.😎

[@patriks_surplus_kitchen5251]

@@ToolsandTargets oh, well now that makes sense :-D Also recomend the Breek arms warhammer mod2 Charging handle works very well for me. I'll keep you updated on my ammo testing with mine. Have now about 4 -500 isch through it. BTW i really like the ammo Hunting videos & would love to see a .303 brit / lee enfield video in the future? Have a good one and greetings from Austria.

[@ToolsandTargets]

@@patriks_surplus_kitchen5251 Thank you sir. 😎👊

[@danielmatthews3420]

I would like to see the difference between the bolt and semi rifles!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Me too. I'm gonna have to look around and see what I might like.

[@TheProAer]

Before watching, I think the 69gr PPU will win it. From the results the last time that 1/8 twist did great with the 68gr Frontier.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@frankbrowning328]

Interesting results. I've seen quite a few of these tests between 223 and 5.56mm and I'm still not really sure how much accuracy is affected. From what I've seen the difference can be so slight it's hard to measure a real difference at 100 yards, or it can be twice or more the group size at 100 yards. I also wonder if some of the ammo marked 5.56 is loaded to 5.56 pressure or if some of it is loaded to 223 pressures as we do occasionally see lower than standard velocity out of some 5.56 loads. We've all heard it's fine to shoot 223 out of a 5.56 gun but the reverse is not recommended. As a manufacturer making a lower cost line of ammo, (Many manufacturers have a few different apparent quality grades) it may be tempting to have the same 223 load in the boxes labeled 223 and also in the boxes labeled 5.56. Maybe these are the ones that show the least difference when tested because those specific loads are actually the same. This is just me wondering out loud. I don't have any actual answers but still have lots of questions

[@ToolsandTargets]

I have to agree. There's very little practical difference. I could probably reshoot this test and get smaller or wider groups at any given moment. I shoot 5.56 and .223 from my AR's based on what is closest to grab when I need to load up. Minute of man is all that really concerns me with these rifles.

[@frankbrowning328]

@@ToolsandTargets Agreed. If it's just plinking/practice ammo I don't know that there's enough difference inside 100 yards to bother me. If I had an AR that was specifically built for accuracy out past 250 yards to shoot small critters, then I'd spend the time to find what shot best out of it.

[@BulletsB4Guns_2A]

Most definitely another classic video. TOOLS

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you, brother!

[@thebigokie6.4_392]

If you were zeroed @ 50 yards it still shouldn't hit that high at 100 yards. Just wondering if it's a combination of the zero and not the ammo you zeroed with. A 16" AR platform zeroed at 50 yards should only be about 1.5" high at 100 yards and dead on at 200 yards. I know you said your test rifle is 18".

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, I imagine the ammo I zeroed with had a lot to do with it too.

[@moaonaabe8955]

Have you ever sighted that scope in cause you made need to re do it

[@metalfenderguybradwalker1916]

I still do believe that you can take game with those groups.

[@ToolsandTargets]

100%

[@focusource]

Store brand paper plates and a $1 can of spray paint from Lowes will get you through a lot of range sessions. If you want to get fancy about it, buy a box of chalk to go with it.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I gotta be fancy!🎇🕺🎇

[@DisgustedGenXr]

First string is on a cold bore. Should fre 2-3 shots before testing

[@ToolsandTargets]

I breathed on the barrel. You know I'm full of hot air!💨🔥

[@DisgustedGenXr]

@@ToolsandTargets lol. I watched some long distance hand loaders and they typically skip over the cold bore shot. Makes sense. Make me wonder about hunting tho. Not like you can fire a warm up round then a 🦌 . Lol.

[@frankwrogg2515]

I wish you would have included some 556 for comparison

[@ToolsandTargets]

I did an entire test with 5.56 just like this in the previous video.👍 kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4fFZaGrnrKHi5I

[@lawrencehawk5179]

Hey, no chronograph again. Thought you were gonna stay away at the Winchester white box .22? 🤦 Like to see 10/22 & Charger @50yds this week, w/the speed graph. 🔧 🎯

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@randlerichardson5826]

Tools the match Bullets done a little better but neither one is great I agree with you

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@sashalakota8292]

yes but do you have a spotting scope yet?

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@blacklilac1408]

i think this test is heavily dependent if 5.56 is loaded to full pressure spec.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@MegaBait1616]

Thumbs up..... be well.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@clydemosier5476]

First thing you learn from sighting in a scope ,First off you find the bullet weight your gun shoots best,then work up a load to match your expectations, try targets you can actually see at 100 yards. Still enjoyed the video

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@LuckyDog350X]

Not bad groups for being sighted in for 50 yds. if it was at 100 they probably wold have been pretty close to your penny. Sub MOA is just a formality, even 1 1/2" groups @ 100 will still put em down Lol. I shoot .223 and .556 regularly thru all my tools chambered in .556 I am not ammo picky if it chambers I let it fly. Have a good one brother I will see you on the next one.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Amen!

[@bigtrev761]

🇦🇺😎👍that’s a nice Rig mate , too bad we aren’t allowed them down here….shit groups today big fella. You need a decent scope to do tighter groups… both my Howa 223s group 1/2 at 100 with the right ammo. Australian outback 69 grain hpbt. Ones got a 24” stainless barrel varmint barrel and the other has a 22” sporter barrel but I will say I use decent scopes. If I use Norma 55grain fmj or Winchester white box 55 grain fmj I only get 1 1/2 at 100. Just two cheap guns with reasonable optics ……good honest video mate 🏁😎👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you, brother!

[@1madmaxx80]

Just clicked, so no idea the results. Isn't .223 just lower case pressures? Interested to see the results! Cheers as always Tools 🍻👍😎👍🍻

[@ToolsandTargets]

There are some differences in the case/chamber dimensions between them that makes a .223 in a 5.56 cut chamber "sloppier" than it would be in a .223 cut chamber.😎👍

[@dt3852]

223 wylde chamber 1:8 twist is best for both. 5.56 NATO best for 5.56 chambers

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@murphymmc]

Interesting, I zero mine at 200yds., puts me at around 1.5" high at 100. 5.56 and .223 have same headspace, 5.56 has longer leade in chamber and generally smaller case capacity due to brass thickness, not much difference in reality. Lots of comparison tests out there, some cartridges in .223 like the slight bullet jump, others like to meet the lands. My 1:8 20" loves the 55 and 68 gr., my 1:9 16" opens the group up 1/2" more at 200. Both have stainless bull barrels with bi-pods. Set up for tiny target varmint shooting. No fun to pack around but the accuracy make it worthwhile. They're liar grade small groups at 200. Scoped with 20 zoomies, Ain't gonna say the average cuz unless you see it, you don't believe it.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@sharoncoleman4742]

Ya I zero at 50 yards that’s usually around the first cross of sight then move out to 100 and then adjust to about 1 inch to 1.5 high but the truth is where I live and hunt 150 yards is it and that’s far for river bottoms so much foliage can’t get clear line of sight out to 200 yds . But on the practice range total different story

[@disgustedvet9528]

Sure killed that plywood . ; )

[@ToolsandTargets]

Plywood steaks for dinner!

[@andrewhart2747]

My question being new to the AR platform is if a specific rifle is multi caliber like .223 .556 what is the chamber? I would imagine that results would be better using the ammo the gun is chambered in.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Generally speaking, 5.56 and .223 performance and dimensions, out of an AR especially, is practically identical. The average person will never see any meaningful accuracy difference. There are quite a few articles that explain the technical differences between the case dimensions and why they are chambered the way they are.

[@andrewhart2747]

@@ToolsandTargets interesting. Have you ever had reliability issues using 223?

[@ToolsandTargets]

@@andrewhart2747 Never

[@andrewhart2747]

@@ToolsandTargets interesting. The only reason I asked was because I have a family member that has a mini 14 that had terrible reliability issues using 223 ammo. Must just be a finicky pew.

[@philipfreeman72]

I prefer an X inside the penny for aim point .

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely would have helped.

[@RustyShacklefardd]

I think the main differnce is just pressure and velocity

[@ToolsandTargets]

Slight chamber dimension differences, but not a whole lot.

[@RustyShacklefardd]

@@ToolsandTargets I'm not good enough of a shot to notice a differnce I guess. I shoot my 22 AR cause 223 is insane rigjt now