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[@Scottejaye]

The Catacylsm Rested XP Guide is here now! You can preorder here - www.restedxp.com/cataclysm/ref/scottejaye/ OR for Season of Discovery and Classic Era (Hardcore) www.restedxp.com/ref/scottejaye/ Also dont know why i said 0.25% for death strike shield, its 6.25 :P Slip of the tongue

[@chrishassey6744]

I know great paladin tanks that are trash at DK. Many players don’t understand Rune Management

[@Erati243]

Would love to see a short video on what "against nonplayers, only absorbs some harmful spells" spells are for simulacrum.

[@Salty_Arthass]

This sold me as staying DK for my cata main.

[@trainer1kali]

Change in presences is the best change ❤

[@sabrevanson4412]

I mained a Bear in OG Cata. By Dragon soul our raid team only needed me as tank for almost all fights. My dodge chance was so high stacks would fall off me. Looking forward to continuing my bear in Classic =)

[@chrisfortin984]

There's some other tricks not mentioned that actually makes the blood shield even more insane if you play the spec properly. If it plays the same as it was in retail cata, omfg. That shield is your everything.

[@vozrulz]

Dark simulacrum was quite funny to use, don't remember the expansion, but do remember when locks could have doomguard as a permanent pet and as it cost mana, you could just have your own doomguard as a dk xD

[@joshua_lee732]

Your lucky it's this xpak

[@ranger4229]

How do you do this? Duel a warlock, have him cast doomguard?

[@alex-suciu]

can't wait for the warlock video. thanks for these videos! kudos for the work!

[@Scottejaye]

Hopefully will be out in the next 48hours!

[@TheDainerss]

Anyone else remember all the fuss that happened when player learned that, in Cata, healers need to do damage to be effective? People were losing their minds on the forums.

[@bramhaze]

@Scottejaye, any chance you know if there is an expansion (Cataclysm or later) that the limitation of 1 death knight per account per realm is lifted?

[@simoncodrington]

Another great one mate!

[@robertseptim3579]

I guess it wasn't just preference that made me remember that DK felt great in Cata. I can't wait!

[@NivGSL]

It is worth mentioning that the charges on Bone Shield have a 2 second internal cooldown, meaning that even if you receive a lot of hits (i.e. aoe tanking) it will still always be up for at least 10 seconds. Making it the DK version of Divine Protection, more or less.

[@Riyaniwow]

Grats on 90k subs! Huge!

[@Scottejaye]

Cheers mate

[@Keygo]

@@Scottejaye Congrats!! Any chance you would give some ideas on 25 man raiding comps? There's nothing out there! I see some 10 man stuff, but nothing for 25 man! Thanks man :D keep up the grind, it's working!

[@begerbingchilling]

Lets not forget DRW gets updated as a proper defensive now, 20% extra parry chance while its up, and it doubles the death strike heals if im not mistaken, although that might be a future expac

[@ianrastoski3346]

"I AM A DOUCHEBAG! Don't know how to play my class? Still do 20k DPS!"

[@Scottejaye]

hhaha so true

[@muckarragnarknytnavesdotte7000]

My plan for cata is Disc priest as the main and blood dk as alt =D maybe a feral druid dps too, who knows, but good videos Scotty! thank you :)

[@xxmar1n3xx]

Does this take into account the gargoyle snap shotting fix in wotlk?

[@markshepherd4791]

I'll tell you who's an absolute beast and that's scottejaye

[@Scottejaye]

Cheers big shep

[@ilpapil3356]

Is it better ( more fun ) to stay with my main Frost DK in Cata or to change main? Furry War, Fire mage and Disc Priest 80 lvl too 😁

[@nickbullard8134]

Players used dark sim to hit Ragnaros in firelands for like a billion damage in OG cata

[@TheGreatestOne15]

it was quite sad to see simulakrum moved to pvp talents when i returned to retail after 7 years 6 month ago ..... the skill was greate use and fun to use in dungeons and challengemode pandaria&Warlords

[@simpleslug6196]

This is ab so lu tely AMAZIN

[@rockleez157]

Dark simulacrum is very underrated . It can steal amazing abilities in hc dungeons such as holy fire from DM HC which does 100K-150k dmg and in pvp it is game changing and high skill capped ability that can steal ice block / sheep / hex / bubble/ blink if timed correctly .

[@chrisfortin984]

Ooh it absolutely is under-rated.

[@andrehellstrom7563]

Was is the best race for a DK? Haste is good, so I thinking goblin or troll, toughts?

[@ericsavage6528]

SCOT, can you make a video about which glyphs we need to buy that carry over vs the ones that dont?

[@jaynocturnal7082]

DK Felt so much better in Cata, and ngl might even be my 3rd alt if I end up doing one, solid vid as always Scott!

[@spoon425]

everyone felt better in Cata, like for real, except destro locks 😥

[@brandonkruse6412]

Unholy in MoP was peak

[@Enp198]

My body is ready Scotttttyyyyy

[@Scottejaye]

Mine too mate! :D

[@csimmeri]

Cata and MoP were peak DK gameplay. I really hope they release MoP classic. Dot snapshotting for UH was bonkers in ToT. Feather of Ji-kun, tricks of the trade, all your procs, mastery stacking, then spam festering strikes. DoTs could get up to 5 minutes of duration. Bosses absolutely melted when you’re doing mechanics not even attacking them.

[@Klaisak]

Is it worth taking the Unholy Blight 1-pointer talent for UH PvE DK?

[@chrisfortin984]

Ill let you know this much. In Cata Unholy is best as a support tree for Blood or Frost. For DPS, Frost is the absolute juggernaut and tops DPS boards.

[@IronMalice]

any recommendation for the best professions for a blood DK ? thanks

[@chrisfortin984]

For me, it remains Engineer/JC..100%

[@gvidotristram6456]

The real question is how snapshotting garg (and the big dude?) works in cata. This is what defined dk in wotlk pretty much.

[@jaymzraulfin2227]

All tanks in cata are crazy OP

[@andreaskvaloy]

The cap for Blood Shield (Blood Mastery) is equal to your max health

[@Scottejaye]

Aye and also to add to that, through mastery its not achievable, the theoretical cap for it is just under 40,000 mastery to cap it in one deathstrike

[@chrisfortin984]

Back in the day I remember i used the addon that measure the max potential of the Blood Shield, and is well worth getting if it works the same way as it did in retail Cata.

[@joshua_lee732]

In all honesty I still much prefer the prot warrior tank even though I know my dk is better. I just loved prot warrior in cata

[@donhaakon]

Prot warriors are as good as any tank in cata. Hell i tank HC raids in wotlk with my prot warrior (only seen one other prot warrior so we are rare on my server:) )

[@c2thewick]

I'm leveling a full heirloom DK right now

[@TheOnlyGBeast]

Love this preaching about DK being fun as hell in Cata. Cata-WoD DK being peak DK design is what I've been saying for years, and Unholy DK in this time period is my absolute favorite class of all time in any RPG ever. Great coverage on DK changes

[@Huckle777]

Unholy DK peaked in legion and it's not even close tbh

[@TheOnlyGBeast]

@@Huckle777 save the bad jokes for next april 1st

[@Huckle777]

@@TheOnlyGBeast Sounds like you haven't played unholy in Legion. Tell me what is more fun than 1shotting people with like 20 stacks

[@TheOnlyGBeast]

@@Huckle777 doesn't matter if the spec feels like shit to play and is uninteresting trash

[@Huckle777]

@@TheOnlyGBeast It plays almost exactly the same, does it not?

[@herditama3945]

i was gearing up my tank DK on RDF.. and it was a nightmare, the threat generate was so lame, if i hv a party member with a high or equal gear score to me.. idk abt cata, if DK being so good as tank than its gonna be HUGE change

[@illiji915]

outbreak is dps loss for both dps specs unless the target is out of range. it's mostly used as you're running into melee range to apply both diseases. sustained melee dps will just plague strike for dmg + reapplying. also if dots can be snapshotted, pestilence would be a better to refresh for unholy maybe. outbreak for tank though is amazing, it really speeds up a dk tank's ability to get their aoe dmg/threat down

[@chrisfortin984]

Ya Outbreak is an absolute must for tanks as it really speeds up your setup to get into your rotation.

[@Mammel248]

DK in cata is SO much more fun than in wrath. Frost rotation is smoother and Unholy rotation is actually cool (as compared to that abomination we had to use in wrath). And blood is just amazing to play.

[@Huckle777]

Frost literally just spams howling blast though. My fav spec in wow that is doomed to be trash forever

[@burtonkevin32]

Didn’t even mention the op dark sim spell steal…combustion, dark soul

[@Scottejaye]

dunno what server you have done that on but combustion has no mana cost so you cant dark sim that but yea you can. with spell steal

[@alfrus2229]

​@@Scottejaye think he means to dark simulacrum spell steal then spell steal combustion but not sure

[@Scottejaye]

@@alfrus2229 yea that’s why I’m confused, combustion isn’t spell stealable either lol

[@BaraPersson]

How is feral druid in PvE? want to play feral pvp but dont want to be dog in pve

[@dafkid1985]

never understood why blizzard overpowered Dk like this crazy

[@zyqz91]

Will we see similar video for paladins? retribution paladins prehaps

[@paullowe8437]

one thing about blood dk that has really surprised me is HOW Much dmg we actually do single target and in dungeons! my blood dk is 100% bis in wrath + shadowmourne! and i felt like a dps in dungeons! i cant wait for it! and that is with everything literally being broken on the beta! no runic empowerment

[@Direksone]

you do by far the worst dps from all of the tanks in wotlk tho

[@paullowe8437]

@@Direksone sure if you're playing the shit icy touch spam spec! go the parse spec, either frost or the unholy variants! and you can 100% be competitive with paladins!

[@rianabi12]

It's really interesting seeing Cata from this perspective, as when cata originally released the meta was VASTLY different, same with wrath. In wrath for example, affliction was kinda trash when it released because there was no scaling at all with any dots, we played destruction all the way until ICC when we finally got scaling dots with a patch. Same thing here with cata, DK tanks were kinda trash originally, i remember them getting absolutely CLAPPED on some heroic firelands bosses, same with survival hunters, they are so OP now but originally no one played them, everyone played MM... surv wasn't buffed until Dragonsoul. It's unfortunate that we only get these expansions with final end patch balancing, would be interesting to recreate the class balance aswell, but would probably be way too much of a pain in the ass.

[@jamie5mauser]

Raise ally now actually resurrects them instead of turning them into a ghoul?!

[@cadeb11]

Is the uh rotation easier than the mess it is in wotlk right now?

[@Huckle777]

no lol

[@Coaldigger8]

yes by metric miles. WOTLK UHdk is a cluster fuck if there’s ever been one in game compared to Cata

[@fundamentawellness9562]

W already have glyph of rune tap to heal the party 🤔

[@Scottejaye]

Oh I genuinely didn't think that actually came until cata and i sat with a pserver DK tank in discord covering all these points before recording and he didn't correct me on it >.

[@PregnantOrc]

And the Cata version is nerf to it. Going from 10% heal on party to 5% and loosing that extra 1% on self. And it's up against some stiff competition for that Major Glyph slot versus Anti-Magic Shell, Blood Boil, Bone Shield, Dancing Rune Weapon & Vampiric Blood. Certainly not the worst pick for a third slot but probably not the default either. Might be situational or composition based decision, such as with a Resto Shaman using Spirit Link Totem.

[@anthonyg6083]

Looks like I am changing my main to DK

[@aaronmcpherson1297]

nice

[@gregsmw]

while i do like how cata changed dk, i NEVER understood why blood was the tanking spec thematically frost makes WAY more sense as a tank spec, and makes WAY less sense as a dps spec the dude whos literally coating himself in a wall of ice, and slowing the speed and sapping the strength of those around him....is a dps? the dude whos viciously draining the blood from his enemies, drinking it in to empower himself...is a tank? what why is the guy whos ENTIRE power comes from killing the enemy, the tank? and the guy whos entire power comes from something that MAKES HIM TANKIER AND THE ENEMY SLOWER.....not a tank? nah, blood should have always been the heavy hitting dps spec, while frost should have been the tank spec it genuinly makes NO sense why blizz did it the other way around

[@Scottejaye]

Haha i gotta be honest, i never really thought about it but after reading this i am completely on board and agree lol

[@jonathanw1106]

I agree, frost presence is literally the tank aura

[@SuperN0vaNexus]

Blizz only made it that way later on, in the early op days, Blood dk was the dps you brought to nax, and all it did was oblit and heart strike and didn't bother with disease's at all, it just got nerf'd and made more tanky and will of the necropolis plus the healing was really good a tanking, blizz looked it as a different way to tank rather than deffensive like war/prot and the hp sponge oh druid and went with it, I Raided with blood on wotlk classic with the gear it still pumps, Gueess i'll go 2h frost for cata.

[@jaysouth512]

This man has a good point lmao

[@Crossfade1625]

probably because blood is life force and more life force = tankiness that would be my guess

[@sydpolsfisk]

Do u think there is any chance we get fresh servers for cata?

[@jessikat6692]

Can I learn the DK AND learn to Tank with the DK for Cata now or wait?

[@TheDainerss]

4:53 You said mastery increases the shield by 0.25%, but the tooltip you show says 6.25%

[@chrisfortin984]

Mastery is your absolute everything. There should be absolutely nothing you have or enchant or gem that doesnt have mastery on a blood DK. It is your absolute everything.

[@austinha11]

So DK and Warrior are both OP?

[@mapleflavouredbacon9938]

Find you a gf/bf that talks to you the same way Scottejaye talks about Cataclysm

[@Scottejaye]

this genuinely made me chuckle lol

[@TheKobasen]

The age of shield and blocking is over when cataclysm arrive. It's dominated by parry and dodge. Main tank is always dk while off tank is dudu.

[@Xprotect69]

just swicthed from mage to tank in cata with blood dk and absoluetely love it in wotlk. i guess im getting divorced and marry the blood dk in cata

[@sarunas8638]

where is warrior ? been waiting for that video for over a year now...

[@zabuza3663]

Can’t wait til legion so I can have 6 unholy runes

[@brandonkruse6412]

Unholy only gets a lot more fun to play in MoP too

[@anggerrad]

i want to know whats new for pally pls pls pls pls pls pls

[@wv7228]

He's made a video on that already

[@Huckle777]

Frost has high APM? All you do is spam howling blast :P

[@Hyri3L]

if i play my dk in cata as blood again (since i startet dk as blood dd) i play blood AS DAMAGE DEALER even thou it seams "tank" i play dd blood :D

[@jacobsvensson3064]

*N1

[@tom55123]

Why do you need Restedxp still? Cata dumb down leveling to an extreme

[@Scottejaye]

Nope you definitely don't need it mate, its just optimal that's all. You'll be just fine without it though because like you say its far more linear in comparison to what we had before.

[@johnny_eason_iii]

👏👏👏👏👏🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼💯💯💯💯💯

[@thatonedude0594]

you didn't say presence more than "absolutely amazing" :)

[@carelesscribo3072]

NFC's

[@jaredcrow3710]

😊😊😊

[@Hyri3L]

no guhl rais ally again :(

[@victorgallegocuadrada8881]

Will someone play Cata for real 😂?

[@As-kg5un]

Sure 😂

[@canieuwenhuis]

Unpopular opinion: DK's are the worst tanks ever! But, I am also willing to admit that this is more of a Bad Player issue.

[@jonathanw1106]

Def a skill issue, I will agree that 8/10 a dk tank in a gamma is cringe as hell

[@ahetzel9054]

Lol I'm going to main a blood dk, they're absolutely the best tank of the expansion. You can be your own healer 🤣 Death strike is so OP giving you a solid heal and shield. With enough mastery the shield can be equal to about 50% of your health. When it comes to Baradin Hold second phase boss, DK tanks will be the only good tank for the fight due to AMS.

[@Greynth]

+1 on skill issue, but that’s because most players suck at the game anyways. Can immediately tell bad DK tanks. If they’re not running Gammas in frost morb or blood morb with DnD glyph, you’re going to have a bad time. If they’re not running double buff spec when there’s no frost DK or cucked enhance in the raid you’re going to have a bad time. If they’re not cycling cooldowns while immediately pulling the inferno while tanking Halion at the same time, they’re trash DK tanks, etc.

[@pavlosegeda8294]

@@jonathanw1106 It's more of Blizzard and guide writers fault. Blizzard didn't give dk a good tools to tank trash and all guides talking about raid tanking, not 5 man. For new player dk imho most difficult tank to start tanking 5 mans.

[@paullowe8437]

as a blood dk main for all of wrath 100% a skill issue! you are super tanky have incredible single target thraet! but if you miss play anything you can and will just die! oh you hit your defensives for soul reaper a second to early or to late you die! or like grey said you arent cycling cds through halion movement phases OR tanking up top with the living infreno on you + boss you will just die! its the beautiful thing about DK you have a test with literally all the answers to the questsions but if you answer any of them wrong you will just die!

[@nineeerie6518]

Are you British?

[@dreghorn007]

Pillar of ice or something like that went down instant cast to 1.5 seconds made it harder to solo teams in 2v2 so I quit.

[@spoon425]

Cataclysm is already dead with all this GDKP crap and SoD

[@Scottejaye]

Sure lol

[@leitmotif6854]

After SoD's phase 3 being absolute garbage? You sure??

[@spoon425]

@@Scottejaye don't wan't to be rude. My classic server is dead and no free transfers from it and on it. That's why i think it's dead.

[@spoon425]

@@leitmotif6854 well when i agree 3 phase is garbage, online in SoD is still huge while classic online is dead. And it's sad

[@conorf8091]

@@spoon425plenty of players on classic wrath though…if you’ve played the same char since 2019 it now feels like “retail” for me. Gkdp is crap but not forced to join them …